Senator Mark Wayne Mullen (11:30)

Well, I, I don't even know if it's worth clarifying, Charlie, because I was on a different show on the Benny Johnson show and I was just given a lay of the land on Ed Martin and just saying, you know, the situation we're running up against, it's going to be difficult. You know, I was very positive when we were talking about Pete, we were talking about Tulsi, Bobby Cash. I said from the get go, every time we talked, we will get them across the finish line. My job is to understand the feel of the conference, to understand where everybody's at. And I was very, very straight on the show by saying, hey, it's going to be difficult. I'm not sure we can get it done. I'm not saying we can't. But it's not definitely a sure, a sure deal. Just because some hard feelings from people about some of his comments on January6 that didn't reflect mine. I mean, there was people that was absolutely scared to death on January 6th. I never felt like I was ever going to die. It wasn't the most dramatic period of my life ever. But I think somebody just took it out of context. However, you know me as good as anybody. I'm, I stand solid with President Trump, haven't wavered a bit, been pushing his nominees all the time. And the president wanted to continue to push Ed Martin, we would have continued to push until that deal. We ran out of steam in this case. I think honestly, Ed might have found a better position by putting him in special counsel. I mean, I think you said something about this, Liz, Be careful what you wish for because he's going to be uncovering your dirty secrets.

Charlie Kirk (13:02)

Yeah. In some ways, another monster might have been created. And Ed Martin is a great man. I'll defend him. And it's too bad he's not a DS DC US Attorney. But now for everyone to understand, the breaking news is now Judge Jeanine has been announced as the temporary D.C. u.S. Attorney who's gonna be quite a fighter, too. I'll tell you what, just really quick to kind of close that topic and we can move on to other stuff. Do you anticipate Judge Jeanine to be welcomed by the U.S. senate? Do you anticipate any problems there if.

Senator Mark Wayne Mullen (13:34)

She becomes the choice the president pushed forward with, More than likely she will be. I don't see any reason why she shouldn't just fly right on through. I think what's gonna be her biggest, biggest hold up is the paperwork. You're familiar with the paperwork, the paperwork process?

Charlie Kirk (13:50)

Oh, yeah, no, it's, it, it's a, oh, it's a financial colonoscopy, yes.

Senator Mark Wayne Mullen (13:54)

Oh, Beth, I like that. I'm going to use that from now on. But it is, it takes forever. So she'll have to stay in this position for a little bit. But I don't think there's going to be any problem confirming her at all. I mean, we did just a real quick what you call opposition research just to make sure we wasn't missing anything. And she is, she's solid. I mean, obviously she said a lot of stuff that the libs are going to blow out of proportion, but I don't think there's any issue at all getting her confirmed.

Charlie Kirk (14:24)

So, so Senator, let's now get and we only have two minutes in this segment here. I want to now shift gears here to the United Kingdom trade deal. I encourage, I think that we're going to see more and more trade deals come down. And I know that a lot of folks that you represent in Oklahoma have been wanting to see, hey, are we going to be able to export our products? Talk about President Trump's brilliant approach to try to open up American exports and how that applies to the people of Oklahoma and the entire country.

Senator Mark Wayne Mullen (14:50)

First of all, the president's approach was spot on by not trying to do one country at a time, but by doing all countries at a time, putting everybody on notice. Otherwise you would just played whack a mo. Every time he worked a deal out somebody else, they would just win around you by getting another country to bring their product into the United States. By the present, focusing on everybody at once, putting everybody on notice and, and then telling the UK he wanted them to be first in, he delivered a trade deal that everybody else is going to start looking to. You're going to start seeing the dominoes fall. Now keep in mind, people need to do business with the United States more than we need to do business with them. Our economy has stood up, the Europe stood up, A UK has stood up, China, all of Asia and a lot of countries in Africa because of different wars around the world over different times and we have subsidized them literally. We have sent trillions of dollars out of our economy and pushed their way. We've allowed manufacturing jobs to leave. And President Trump's the first president to ever have truly the backbone to say we're going to do something and shake up things. And what happened yesterday, the market responded ridiculously well. You're going to continue to see these trade deals come back in. And everybody in Oklahoma knew that. Now you take the left media and they're going to tell you the doomsday and everything's fals falling and we're in recession. They sure didn't report about yesterday, about how good the market did and about everybody reversing their comments about we're headed to a recession. But in Oklahoma, even as I traveled around the state, even as I talked to my constituents, I'm telling you, they all appreciated President Trump because we knew where he was going. And if anybody's going to deal, they can.

Charlie Kirk (16:33)

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Senator Mark Wayne Mullen (18:37)

So I hate raising taxes to be honest with you. DC doesn't need any more taxes up here. We need to figure out how to control our spending. But if you want to break this down right now that top bracket is around 37%. What they're proposing is going to 39.4 or 39.8 so might as well say 40% what that is for it's not necessarily to change the brackets below us. It's to keep those, keep all the brackets actually where they're at today. But it's then it's going to go in and do the no tax, no tips, no tax on manufacturing, overtime and no tax on Social Security. So we have to offset those if we're going to pay down the deficit. Actually have the we need and you just don't have room in there if you're going to do $1.5 trillion in cut and by the way this be for the physical year of FY26, not like Congress typically does. We're going to have a 10 year spending reduction and we're never going to get it. This is actually for next year. So if you're going to do that you've got to offset it someplace. So you start looking at deductions, depreciation rates, deferred, deferred interest you and you start looking at where you can grab it at. The people that are probably okay with the most unfortunately are people that sit in tax brackets like and you know my wife and I have been very blessed in my in our life. This isn't my livelihood. This is what I get to do. We also hit that tax that top tax bracket too. So ADD in another 2% to pay for people to not that are probably struggling. If you're dependent on Social Security, you're probably that that is a big Hit to have some pay taxes on that. If you're dependent on the tips, that's a big hit for you. I mean, my wife and I own restaurants. Most of those people working as hard as they could and they needed all that tip money they could. And the manufacturing, when you start looking at an overtime on manufacturing, we're going to have a lot of catching up to do and it's going to come through manufacturing. So to be able to do that is. I'm okay with it. And then cut deduction at the same time. I'm on the same page with you, Charlie.

Charlie Kirk (20:43)

Yeah. And again, you and I both are the top tax bracket. It's. Is it going to be a life ender for us? It'll be annoying. I'll just be honest, Okay. I have to write more, you know, write a bigger check to the federal government. Is it gonna up upend our quality of life? No, it's not. Do I think we should get in the practice of constantly raising taxes on top income earners? No. In a different circumstance, I would be arguing actually for less taxes on wealthy people if we were not on the verge of a fiscal and financial apocalypse. It is a trade off. Ultimately, America is broke. We are broke and we should act like it. And therefore, I think that if we can have a deal where middle class people can pay less because they've been totally crushed. Middle class people have been so crushed by this economy, by Biden, by inflation, and we have to pay a little bit more and then we get spending cuts. But what would be disappointing, Senator, is if we raise taxes on people like you and I and there is no spending cuts that also come alongside of it. That would be all of that political capital for nothing. Your thoughts, Senator? And then finally, one other element. I do actually think this would be enormously popular with the American people. And let's also remember again, I hate doing like the politics of vindiction, but that's not what this is. The wealthiest 1% were unusual, Senator. Most of them actually voted for Kamala Harris. The wealthiest counties in America almost all voted for Democrats. They're increasingly the coastal elite. So what spending cuts do you think we will get and that we can't expect? Not just the Doge stuff, but real significant spending reform to try to get the deficit under a trillion dollars.

Senator Mark Wayne Mullen (22:27)

So first of all, under a trillion dollars sounds ridiculous. We need a balance of budget. But that's, that's accurate. There's a couple of things that we need to be looking at that I would like to see if we're going to raise the taxes on anybody to say once we got the debt and once we get the budget balanced that we start using tariffs to start paying off the national debt. And then at some point when we get our spending under control, then we're able to go in there and lower the tax brackets for everybody, use the tariffs that are coming in to offset that cost of lost revenue from the taxes. Just my thought, now some real cuts we can have. You know, when we start looking at reforms, you have to start looking at the size of government. You know, we have been a bloated government since, for, well, for decades, but really since COVID If you start looking at the, the numbers, the amount of employees we hired post Covid, if we can go back to 2019 employment rates and then you start understanding the amount of technology that we can install to help offset that. I mean every company in America right now is using technology to cut their payroll to some degree. And then the ones that are there, they're able to raise the money or raise the, not the money but raise the, the profitability of the company to be able to reinvest, to continue to grow. So if we're going to use that same technology, use it inside the government. So what we're looking at real hard is investing in technology being able to bring down the bloated workforce by 5 to 10% and then we're able to use technology to go in there and expose the waste and the fraud that's through every one of these agencies. And President Trump is leading this by putting the DOGE personnel in place to be able to audit these agencies. And they're fighting tooth and nail. Why? Because you have entrenched people that are working in a very cush job that wasn't even have to show up the last three years. And the top earners are making three to $350,000 a year, which. Great, I'm glad you're able to make good money but work for your position. And we haven't seen government working for the people. So we need to change our direction and make sure we get laser focused on delivering it and still run lean and mean.

Charlie Kirk (24:45)

Last, last thought here, Senator. Then I'll let you run. And I'm just told that the, the recision vote died in the House. We're, we're going to track that in real time. But, but so I was on the phone yesterday with some high ranking House Republicans and they say, Charlie, we can't put defunding Planned Parenthood in the rescission package or reconciliation bill because of the midterms. And I got very upset. I said, listen, we are in May of a new year, and we just had an election, and I have to now hear that you do not want to do something you were elected to do because of the midterms. I find that to be despicable. They just clearly do not want to do it. And that's just one of many things that it can apply to. Senator, number one, a point of encouragement. Please tell your colleagues why on earth are they so worried about the next election if they're not gonna fulfill the mandate from the prior election? And then secondly, just what is. What. What do we, the grassroots, have to do to try to get this done? Not just defunding Planned Parenthood, but some of the things that we ran on and that we hope to expect so that this doesn't end up being just a lackluster reconciliation bill that blows this great opportunity. Senator, please.

Senator Mark Wayne Mullen (25:59)

The Planned Parenthood is sticky. And as a father of six kids, three adopted, I thank God almost every day that the mothers that were able to give me these three kids that I can love, and they love me and be. And was brave enough to go through the. Through the pregnancy. I am 100% pro life. What Planned Parenthood has done is they've weaved themselves into our community health care centers. A lot of our rural areas are that. That. That don't have. That doesn't have a hospital, doesn't have, you know, 24 urgent, 24, seven urgent care, or any really medical. They run the only community health care center and maybe the entire county and trying to separate those around. And so when people start saying funding Planned Parenthood, what ends up happening is through these community health care centers that doesn't deliver abortion at all. They. The. The problem is we feel like Planned Parenthood is using that money that is typically derived by Medicaid and Medicare recipients because it's rural areas. They're following that money into their adopt to their abortion clinics. What. There's two paths here. One, you just completely get them out of it where they can't accept Medicare and Medicaid at these community health centers, which would be pretty devastating to the rural areas. Or you get them completely out of the business altogether. But then there should. There's supposed to be a clear line between the funding between the two. And we and the Democrats have allowed that funding to mesh together during COVID and we have to expose that. And if they're not willing to do that again, then we need to kick them totally out of the system and allow them to have Medicare and Medicaid. That's what. Yeah, so the biggest issue is about losing health.

Charlie Kirk (27:44)

And I think that rural areas. No. Yeah. And we're running out of time, Senator. I think that's a smart point I haven't heard before and I understand the complexity. Let me just kind of tell you the political and moral dynamics. Kick them out completely and by the way, call their bluff. Why is it that pregnancy crisis centers in Tulsa and in Edmond and in Oklahoma City, which are these Christian amazing communities there, they don't get any funding from the federal government. So if these pregnancy crisis centers that do this incredible work, that are saving lives don't get money, why should those that butcher lives get money? So I think you should kick them out completely. And look, the audience is on fire about this one. So, Senator, we're counting on you to bring that one home.

Senator Mark Wayne Mullen (28:24)

We are. We are 100% with you on that one. We're fortunate in Oklahoma that we have a lot of tribes that are raising their hand saying we'll take the community health center. So we're good in Oklahoma.

Charlie Kirk (28:32)

Good.

Senator Mark Wayne Mullen (28:32)

But that's the issue, States. I want to say this real quick, Charlie. Thank you for going to universities. You went to Stillwater, where my kids wrestle for Oklahoma State. What you do after you leave, you don't see. But the, the. The ability for these individuals that may have been hiding underneath the rock because they're MAGA and because universities are not, they're usually woke. You give them a backbone to be able to stand up because you're brave enough to go there first, take the fight to the campus and then all these ones that are actually true maga, they have the ability to stand up after you leave. And there's been a movement at Oklahoma State since you left. So thank you.

Charlie Kirk (29:05)

Well, thank you. That really means a lot, Senator, because you're right, I don't see what happens after I leave. And that invisible ripple effect just gives me such encouragement. So thank you for that. It means a lot, Senator. Keep fighting and bring this one home. There's something happening with our farmland here in America and is not getting enough attention. The Chinese are buying up hundreds of thousands of acres of U.S. farmland. They've taken control over critical supply chains, things like fertilizer, animal feed and farming equipment. Why? It's clear they're tightening their grip on global food production. And if things go south, we need to be ready. That's why I trust my Patriot supply. They're America's largest emergency preparedness company. And right now, when you get four weeks emergency food supply, you get four free 72 hour food kits with 12 days of food absolutely free. These four weeks of delicious meals last up to 25 years, delivering 2,000 plus calories every day. We can't control what China does, but we can control how prepared we are. Go to mypatriotsupply.com to claim your 12 days of free food. That is my patriotsupply.com mypatriotsupply.com, portions of the Charlie Kirk show are brought to you in part by my patriotsupply.com that is my patriotsupply.com Joe Biden made an appearance on the View. He actually looks somewhat sentient. It was amazing. He was really having a lot of duties as president. He's definitely napping a little bit more. He looked somewhat sentient. Keyword, somewhat. This is cut 4, 4, 4, triple 4. Biden mumbling about how Trump can't lead the world without infrastructure. My goodness, we are so thankful he's no longer president. Praise the Lord. Play cut 444.

Joe Biden (30:50)

The projects, the benefits. How do you lead the world without the best infrastructure? How do you lead the world without having the best health care in the world? How do you lead the world without having the best education system? How do you lead the world when you don't have that done?

Charlie Kirk (31:03)

Honestly, one thing that we should do, we as conservatives, we're going to make fun of him for the next couple minutes. And this was our commander in chief and praise the Lord, we didn't go to nuclear war and there was a group of invisible Biden staffers running the country. But honestly, there is one thing that we should remain thankful for. Praise the Lord. That Joe Biden's bitterness remained. Joe Biden was a vindictive little fella. Ooh, is he bitter. He did us a big favor. If Joe Biden would have resigned in July and given the presidency to Kamala Harris, we would have had some trouble. Her as president would have been a much different thing. And I will say, remember, Blake, I keep score at the RNC in Milwaukee. I was the only one on our thought crime panel where I predicted that Joe Biden would remain president and stay through the entire term. And everyone said, no way he's gonna resign and she'll take the office. I said, no, no, no. I said he. It would have made sense to resign, of course, but I said no. He's a vindictive little fella. He's a bitter dude. But luckily he was selfish. Honestly, you have to. I don't wanna get too deep into that. Deep down. Did he want Trump to win? Probably not. I wouldn't go that far. Let's play cut447, please.

Unknown Guest (32:19)

In your final year, there was a dramatic decline in. In your cognitive abilities. In the. In the final year of your presidency, what is your response to these allegations? And are these sources wrong?

Joe Biden (32:30)

They are wrong. There's nothing to sustain that, number one. Number two, you know, think of what. What we're left with. We left with a circumstance where we. We had an insurrection. I started. We did not sense a civil war. We had a circumstance where we were in a position that we. Well, you know, one of the things that. Well, and Alyssa.

Senator Mark Wayne Mullen (32:59)

You know, one of the things I think is that they didn't see how hard Joe worked every single day.

Charlie Kirk (33:07)

You want to know why people think the media is a disgrace? You're seeing that his mental decline is on full display. And all these women on the View are. Oh, yeah, totally. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, totally. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. And they actively covered up Joe Biden's mental decline. Thanks for reminding me why President Trump won. Oh, there's dangerous destabilization and institutional distrust happening in the West. Yes, because you covered up this man, the Commander in Chief's, mental decline, and told us that we were conspiracy theorists for it. Praise the Lord. We all dodged a bullet on July 13th. I'll say that once. I'll say it almost every day. Thanks so much for listening, everyone. Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk. Com. Thanks so much for listening and God bless.

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