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Charlie Kirk
Hey, everybody. Charlie Kirk here live from the Bitcoin.com studio. What is happening with the first 100 days? Mark Halpern unpacks. And then a very fun story about how the left who tried to oppose Turning Point USA is in complete implosion because of their woke worldview. Email us as always, freedomarliekirk.com freedomarliekirk.com and get involved with TurningPoint USA@tpusa.com that is tpusa.com Buckle up, everybody. Here we go.
Mark Halperin
Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
The New Older Millennial
Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.
Mark Halperin
I want you to know we are.
The New Older Millennial
Lucky to have Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.
Unknown Speaker
I want to thank Charlie. He's an incredible guy. His spirit, his love of this country. He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point usa.
Charlie Kirk
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Mark Halperin
Well, first of all, three things quick, appreciate always being on. Second, one jokey, one serious. I heard from a lot of your friends who watched our conversation. And thank you for coming on two way who thought that I got you a little deer in the headlights and they're like, Charlie's usually unflappable. Nothing, nothing stumps him. So I heard from a lot of your friends, too, and again, really enjoyed having you on. Hope you'll come back. Serious thing is the passage of your friend mentor, David Horowitz, who I had the pleasure of meeting, an honor meeting a couple times. But I just want to ask. Sorry, I am, because I read what you wrote, very touched by it, and he touched so many people's lives. And really, you and I don't consider ourselves historic figures because it's not the way we think about ourselves, but we've both had the pleasure of knowing and honor of knowing historic figures. And I'm really grateful for history that you got to meet such an extraordinary person.
Charlie Kirk
Thank you. And we're going to be honoring him throughout the show today. And I'll just say one quick thing. So many guys that run these organizations are territorial. Don't come here. He'll steal my donors or whatever. He actively wanted me to come to his events and it helped grow Turning Point usa. He is on the short list of people that believed in me when he had nothing to gain except trying to just say, hey, who's this guy? Maybe he could end up doing something meaningful. And so a phenomenal, decent and good man. So, Mark, I want to dive just.
Mark Halperin
Real quick, an incredible mind. I mean, really one of the smartest creative thinkers I ever met. And again, just really so happy for you that you got to spend time with someone who historically, you're a great thinker and really inspirational to so many.
Charlie Kirk
Absolutely. And prolific writer. I mean, he would call me for a book endorsement like, every nine months. I'm like, David, come on, man. It's unbelievable. So, Mark, we're 100 days in and the front page of the New York Times. I gotta imagine actually that President Trump actually probably liked the front page of the New York Times. I don't know if you saw it or not, but they said there's never been 100 days like this and had every possible category, depending on who you ask. It's either the most tragic and the most terrible hundred days or the most exhilarating or uplifting. How are you thinking of uncovering these 100 days?
Mark Halperin
Well, it's not just knuckleheads who say it's horrible or the best ever. It's really smart people. And one of the privileges I have is I get to talk to really smart people who have both views that this is incredible and this is disastrous. Susie Wiles, his chief of staff, who, you know, did an interview with the New York Post around 100 days, and she said on the Border. She gives the President an A or A plus, I can't remember which she said, but she suggested for a lot of other things, incomplete. And I think that's really the only right grade to give him 100 days is an artificial construct. Every president and every presidential advisor I've ever covered has sort of complained about it and said, you know, Roosevelt was governing during historic times and you could do, you know, a lot in that period. I think on the big projects, China, Ukraine, inflation, the economy, overall reconciliation, the big budget bill, and of course on tariffs. It's just too soon to say. But, but, but even his critics, I think, have read a lot of the coverage, including the New York Times, say most of what he's done, he promised to do as a candidate. Most of what he's trying to do are not some projects that he's invented but that he ran on and they may not work out. Tariffs is one that makes a lot of people, you and I both know, a little uncomfortable and nervous. But he's doing what he said he would do. And that's, I think again what president should do. He shouldn't get elected and then invent some whole new agenda.
Charlie Kirk
As we examine the last 100 days, what, what have, what can we gather that is predictive for the next 100? They seem the Trump White House seems no signs of slowing down, momentum is only increasing. And are there any places where you think, based on your reporting, where there might be a little recalibration, where they might have went a little too hot and they might dial it back a little bit?
Mark Halperin
I'm talking to people around the White House. In the White House, I divide everything into two buckets. There's the tariffs and there's everything else. And everything else is a big bucket, right? It's got Ukraine and China and non tariff China and everything else. But the tariffs is such a big deal because I talk to serious people every day, and I know you do too, who think this is the greatest own goal in the history of politics or sports, that he is destroying the world economy not because of some virus in a wet market or lab in China, but through an act of purposeful presidential conduct. So that's the place where you've already seen recalibration, right? Some of the tariffs that were put on have come off, some of the strategy has changed, some of the stated goals have changed. But I think it's not an exaggeration to say in the next hundred days, the second hundred days, how he handles the tariff, the whirlwind he's unleashed through the tariffs is going to be determinative, not just about the tariff policy or his economic record, but I think of his entire presidency. Then there's everything else. Some recalibration regarding Putin, but I think that's more tactical than strategic. I think most of what we're seeing in the other bucket is not shown a lot of change the course or regret on the margins on immigration, on the margins on some of the economic policies. But for the most part, I think you're going to see more of the same, except in that first bucket, where, again, he has bet everything on a theory of how to make this work. And I think the challenges, particularly as they relate to China, are extraordinary. I read the other day, I don't know if it's true, but it's too good not to repeat. One in every three things that's made in the world now is made in China. One in every three. I believe that, and I'm sure it's close to true. So how he confronts China, not just economically, but militarily, strategically, diplomatically, this is as big a play as I've seen any president I've covered done. People talk about George Bush trying to change the Social Security system or Barack Obama passing health care. Those are big, big changes. Big changes. In one case successful, one unsuccessful in terms of passing a bill. But this is reshaping the world economy with a few strokes of a few pens.
Charlie Kirk
So one thing that you mentioned, which is the Russia, Ukraine situation, which I'm incredibly interested in, and I hear things I can't say publicly, you could respect that. But I will just ask this question, which is, has this taken them by surprise that this is harder to settle than they might have imagined? And what does the world look like, in your opinion, if Putin says, yeah, actually, I think I'm winning the war. Thanks. I'm just gonna keep on marching.
Mark Halperin
Yeah, well, great questions, and I'm super interested in it, too. It's an interesting story, but it's also important, and just as with the tariffs, very easy to say. The fate of the world hangs in the balance. Look, I think that President Trump doesn't have much confidence in either Putin or Zelensky, that they really want a deal. And his public comments reflect that. Some days he thinks, yeah, we'll get a deal, and other days he's very bearish on a deal. My joke for a while has been, and it's a grim joke, that Zelensky will make a deal, except under two circumstances, when the war is going well for him. Because he doesn't want to make a deal when he's on the march or when the war is going poorly for him because he's on his back foot and he knows the terms wouldn't be good. And of course, those are the only two possibilities. So Zelensky is a barrier to peace as well. He's not a dictator. He didn't start the war the way Putin did. But he is a barrier to a deal because there's no forcing mechanism. He's always looking for something better. I think what the deal could be and what each side will have to give up has been clear to everyone I know in the region for a long time. Right. Putin gets to keep some land, Zelensky gets to keep most of his country. He gets some economic security, some military security, but not membership in NATO, for instance. It's pretty clear what it is. But Putin in the last few days and his government have made noises that suggest he doesn't want a deal. And the old negotiating phrase, nothing's decided till everything's decided. Many things will stay undecided and therefore there'll be no deal. I don't know what's going to happen. And your question, you hear lots of people in the establishment, in both parties say, well, if Putin walks away, we go back to arming Ukraine and try to help them win the war. I just don't think there's an appetite for that.
Charlie Kirk
That's where you're right. That's exactly right, Mark. And that's where I think a lot of the coverage is missing it, which is like, wait a second. And I think Putin is smart enough to say, wait a second, there's not an appetite to keep arming my adversary. So what exactly is, I'll wait it out. Yeah, I'm gonna wait it out. It's the Russian way anyway. And so that is the issue there really right now is no strong incentive for Russia to make a deal other than, other than President Trump and his team saying, look, do you guys wanna enter the Second World or do you wanna be part of a little bit of an ever growing softening Western relationship where, I don't know, Russian politics that well, Is that interesting to Putin? Is that interesting to try to say, hey, you don't have to be isolated and embargoed all the time?
Mark Halperin
A little bit, but not enough to make him give up Crimea or give to a deal on unfavorable terms?
Charlie Kirk
Yeah. And so again, I'm far from a geopolitical expert on this stuff. I'm trying to understand Also, the domestic politics are actually what's driving the potential consequence of this. And the consensus of some of the senators I talked to said, oh, you know, we'll just arm another hundred billion dollars. I don't think you quite understand. You're not reading the room right. The temperature here does not want that. But please, Mark, plug your new podcast so our audience can know that, so that you can keep beating us in the charts.
Mark Halperin
Yeah, just search Next up, Halpern. You can listen to it on all the podcast platforms. It's also on YouTube. It's part of the Macon County Network. I had Ted Cruz on my first episode that dropped yesterday. Tomorrow, Charlie's close personal friend Gavin Newsom will be my guest.
Charlie Kirk
Oh, wow. That's gonna be. I will listen to that. So that'll be very good. You see, you get all the good guests. I have to really fight and scrap, you know, so, yeah, I gotta get.
Mark Halperin
You on, but you know, I'm able to get a better guest. Cause I'm higher than you on the charts.
Charlie Kirk
Well, there you go. That is true. Mark, great work there. Thanks so much. Thanks for the time. Appreciate it.
Mark Halperin
Thanks, Charlie. Good to see you.
Charlie Kirk
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The New Older Millennial
The New Older millennial account number 65.
Charlie Kirk
Okay, well, you and I should chat about that offline. So we're going to now set the table here. So at Turning Point usa, we have these incredibly successful campus tours. Our audience is well aware of that. We're drawing thousands of people to them. The video interactions literally are seen billions and billions of times on social media. So enter the left. They see the impact that we're having and a group of, let's just say, trolls, to put it nicely, a circus act that mostly exist on TikTok, but a little bit on Instagram. They get very jealous that we're having this success at Turning Point usa, so they decide to launch their own counter to literally follow me around the country and stalk me as a way to try to troll and disrupt the event. They call themselves the UN F America Tour. It is run by two young trolls by the name of Dean and Parker. If you don't know who they are, you are living a much greater life than I am because they're rather unenjoyable people. And so I've debated them both on Jubilee. Anyway, so they show up to text A and M. They get really upset because I didn't immediately call them up on stage, even though I invited them. I debated some of their other Internet trolls. Completely went viral, made them look terrible and bad. But here's the fun story. Why is this worthy of our time? Well, because their entire operation has now collapsed. Yeah, look how big of a crowd they drew in contrast to ours. And it's collapsed because of Wokeism and dei. And this is what's so important, everybody. So they put together kind of this pseudo super PAC that is now basically dissolved. They're all infighting. Why? Well, because their organizer was racist using microaggressions. Mr. Older millennial, fill in the gaps here and talk as if people in the audience have no idea of the baseline facts here. And let's walk through this.
The New Older Millennial
So. So you had it right. Right off the bat is that they basically just decided they were going to follow you around and basically try to ape off your success. And the. The entire event was just poorly planned from the beginning because, one, they didn't reserve anything. They. They didn't set it up. And they brought 52 creators for a four hour talk just wasting money like that. But they showed up and, and obviously they, they got very upset that they didn't get to move to the front of the line. They, they were reminded very lack of importance to most people in the world. And they went set up on the far side of campus where funnily enough, the sprinklers went off and, and they had to pay to get them shut off, which is beyond hilarious. But they, and they had their little event. And what happened is after the, before the event happened, there had been some accusations of microaggressions against the creators of color. And so whether it was the minority creators said that they were microaggressed because they weren't given extra security, which is what they felt they needed when they went to Texas and they weren't given enough say there was no minorities as headliners and there was, and that's what they accused, they accused her deeply of racism. The bigger creators, Dean and Parker, they just ignored that it was happening so they could have their event. And, and it's currently all coming crashing down around them. And add to that the fact they managed to spend their entire $115,000 on a single event. So the entire thing is falling apart.
Charlie Kirk
For them and I hope everyone understands. So this was supposed to be the big DNC's counter to Turning Point USA, right? Turning Point is succeeding. We are drawing huge crowds. We're moving young people substantially. We are the premier outreach organization that is doing this. It's not just, it's not a Charlie Kirk thing. It's top to bottom. Our team deserves the credit. It is a mass movement. The world is waking up to the power of gold. National banks are scrambling to secure it. According to the World Gold Council, central banks added 1,000 tons of gold in 2024, the third straight year of net gold buying. They understand what many investors don't. Gold is real money. Unlike paper currency, gold's value doesn't disappear with inflation, reckless government spending or market crashes. Now Noble Gold Investments makes it easy for you to claim your share. As our new administration works to reverse the economic chaos of the past. Market swings are inevitable. When uncertainty rises, you need something solid, something to keep you on the path to financial freedom. Gold can be that foundation. And right now, when you make a quantity, qualified investment, Noble Gold will send you a free 10th ounce of a cold coin. Visit noblegoldinvestments.com that's noblegoldinvestments.com the world is turning to gold. Shouldn't you Be looking into doing that too. What is collapsing them? Because I get asked the question all the time. Well, Charlie, what is DEI in practice? Everybody. Their organization is now collapsing because some organizer by the name of Z A Bernie Sanders, former staffer, microaggressed the black women by saying what she said. Well, this was really disorganized and you people have to do better. I kid you not. They are now in a civil war that is in front of millions of people because they can't run a simple operation. They are a victim of their own ideology. And is this not a great example of how wokeism can never build anything about how when you. When you live under dei, you immediately collapse? And these people's feed literally on TikTok, which is being seen by millions of people, is legit only on F America infighting. A complete implosion for one week. I thought that to my credit, I said to the team, I said, guys, this is not gonna last because wokeism cannot run anything. You cannot run a church, you cannot run a company. This principle, you cannot run anything. And my team is in the chat saying that we called it but. And their influencer page has been taken down. Is this not a great example of a bunch of left wing young influencers trying to win? Young people talking about how great WOKE is and then woke destroys their own operation.
The New Older Millennial
Well, that's. Well, that's the beauty of it is that you have. I mean, I made a TikTok about it where I said that if you get together so many people that are focused on being victims, that that is the basis of their content and you get them all together, they're going to have a victim Olympics. They're going to see who can be the biggest victim. And turns out they're really good at it.
Charlie Kirk
They are experts in it. So now I want to play this piece of tape here. So if you don't know Parker again, congratulations. You're about to meet him. This guy interrupts you every three seconds. He has such a sense of entitlement. However, I have finally found a way to get Parker to not interrupt. You have a crazy black woman talk about microaggressions for a minute straight. And that shuts up Parker. Look at this, like beta guy who's like the leader of the insurgency. Sit down and shut up. Because a black woman is talking. Mind you, he interrupts you all the time as if he's on lithium or something. Play cut 372z came in a lie.
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Full of a bunch of black women. And the first thing she did when she came on, there was, was to say, I know you guys aren't educated on like, clearly they're speaking about politics. They know what they're talking about. So what makes you feel like they don't like for you to say they are an uneducated one, that was the phrase microaggression. Two, she was very hard on seeing you people. And whenever somebody says you people, it's, it's, it's just. You just know where it's coming from. Like, you just know as if like they were being aggressive. And then she started bringing up bipoc people that were part of the tour. And then she said, behind the scenes. Like, they're not the face of the, they're not the face of the tour. They're just working behind the scene, the scenes, like some workmen.
Charlie Kirk
What did we just listen to? I mean, this is the Democrat party. This is Parker being silent, getting dressed down in front of thousands of people saying, these are microaggressions and we win the oppression Olympics.
The New Older Millennial
And the worst part is it's wild because I'm used to seeing them take what we say out of context. I'm used to seeing them take what you say out of context. And it's fun to watch them do it to each other because what she just said, Z said. Z didn't say, I will never defend that woman. I hope her entire pack fails. I hope their entire movement fails. But she didn't say that. What she did was she came on and told them, hey, many of you may not be experienced in organizing. And that's, that's all she said. And, and it is. This is honestly the first time I've ever seen the you people thing actually enforced in like real life of somebody hearing you people and being, I guess, microaggressed. I don't know how many microaggressions it takes to equal an actual aggression. So. But it is fun to watch. Like, they're just, they're taking, they're taking their own people out of context and doing it in a public forum, which is beyond insanity for their movement.
Charlie Kirk
And now, you know, Dean and Parker, they have to issue these apologies. Talk about the apology tour of the talk about how now they have to grovel to their audience is saying, well, I just want to say I'm sorry because I knew that she was racist. She wasn't racist. For the record, there's nothing she did that was racist. Like, she literally was just like, okay, you guys aren't that, you know, experienced in organizing and these left wing Content influencers are now creating this mob. This is the woke mob that we stopped in November, everybody. Donald Trump stopped this, this, like, herd of narcissists from taking over the United States government. I want to play this right now. Also, they're questioning, where is the money going? Play cut 381.
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So you're telling me that the hundred thousand dollars that was actually raised by our communities is all gone and you used it on the event at Texas A and M, over $100,000. She was like, yep, at that point, I was completely done. But some smart black women jumped in. Erica jumped in and said, hey, Z, we need receipts now.
Charlie Kirk
We have one minute remaining. Just to be clear, that was the entire operating budget of Turning Point USA for the first year. $100,000. Where did all this money go? They have $100,000 for a campus stop for some makeshift operation with not even a microphone that works and sprinklers that are on them. What's going on here?
The New Older Millennial
Well, the wildest part is, you look at it, they flew in 52 creators from all over the country. They rented each of them a car. They didn't provide transportation. They just rented them cars. They put them up in hotel rooms for extended periods of time, even though they were only there to talk for four hours. This is what I can hope is that this is emblematic of Democrat organizing.
Charlie Kirk
Yes, it is.
The New Older Millennial
Because, I mean, this is why Kamala Harris had $2 billion and somehow managed.
Charlie Kirk
To point out, spend that great point. There is this kind of, you know, oh, we got to. We're losing young people because of Charlie and they're obsessed with me. I mean, is that fair to say? I mean, they are. It is a pathological obsession of which. Fine, get in line. Okay.
The New Older Millennial
You are. They are. You are living rent free in their heads. And it's very obvious.
Charlie Kirk
They literally, they do not care. Stopping Donald Trump, J.D. vance, or Elon Musk. Their life is about stopping Charlie Kirk. Literally. It's on their website. Taking the fight to Charlie Kirk. Not taking the fight to Donald Trump. Taking the fight to me. Fine. Okay. What does a mechanic and auto shop owner in Georgia, a taco restaurant operator in Arizona and a life saving medical innovator in Tennessee have in common? They're all small business owners and they're all thriving on TikTok. Across the US over 7.5 million businesses, from family owned shops to entrepreneurs are using TikTok to compete and grow. We use TikTok all the time on the Charlie Kirk show. In fact, 74% of businesses on TikTok, say TikTok has allowed them to scale their operations, increasing sales and expanding to new locations. And that growth means jobs. Today, there's over 7.5 million US businesses on TikTok, employing more than 28 million people. And that number keeps growing. Small businesses thrive on TikTok. Learn more about TikTok's contribution to the US economy at TikTok economicimpact.com I gotta ask you, older millennial, you have a lot of success on TikTok. The liberals are increasingly not as viral on TikTok or dominant as they used to be. Can you comment on that?
The New Older Millennial
Well, I honestly think, like, right now we're seeing the fact that TikTok does push liberals. It's coming back to bite them right now because we're watching their. What, what equivalent to, you know, a divorce proceeding or a couple's counseling on TikTok between them. But, yeah, I mean, it's, it's. We've. The benefit of the conservative community is that everybody knows that what we're talking about is, what we actually want to talk about is when it comes to liberals, we have so much evidence of them being paid and being told what to say, but they know that when they talk to us, they know it's genuine because we couldn't get the, we couldn't get a dime out of the RNC if we tried. So, you know, they know they're getting the genuine thing from us. The problem is that we're only allowed to grow so far before we get taken down, you know, and that's why I'm super excited about the possibility of somebody new owning Tick Tock.
Charlie Kirk
Yeah.
The New Older Millennial
You know, like, Reed's proposal makes me very excited for the future.
Charlie Kirk
Yeah, we, we need to get that sorted out for sure. Why do you think young people are gravitating to the right so much and are becoming more and more conservative?
The New Older Millennial
Well, there's that old adage that says, you know, if you're not a Liberal in your 20s, you don't have a heart, but if you're not a conservative in your 30s, you don't have a brain. The, the thing is that now reality is coming to these people a lot sooner, so it's, it's happening. You know, reality is hitting people a lot younger, so they need to recognize the reality of the world. And liberal ideology doesn't do that. It, it acts like everything's going to be okay and you can, you know, make everything good with flowery terms. We're, you know, we're conservatives. We Recognize. Oh, oh, it's going to take work. And a lot. I think a lot of people are coming to that decision sooner than they have in the past.
Charlie Kirk
What do you see in your audience as to why young men especially are gravitating towards the conservative movement and how Democrats are gonna try to adapt or going to try to catch up?
The New Older Millennial
Well, the other side says we're evil. I mean, young men are being told that they're evil, that being masculine is bad, that being assertive is bad, and they're just bad people by dint of being of, you know, a white young male. And, you know, when you get enough hatred from the other side, you're gonna walk away from it, and there's really nothing left can do to recover it, because they don't have examples of masculinity. They don't have anything that a man can aspire to on their side. They. They have examples of young, whiny people.
Charlie Kirk
They can aspire to. This. I gotta interrupt you. This is the type of man that they can aspire to. Play cut 384.
The New Older Millennial
Oh.
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So my first order of business is apologizing to the individuals that are watching this stream, that are a member of the BIPOC community for not speaking out about this sooner. But I think one really big mistake I've made, one really bad thing I've done, something I need to hold myself accountable for, was not calling this out before we went boots on the ground in Texas. My internal justification was that, well, I have fans across the country that have already bought their plane tickets to go to Texas and they're gonna be there, and I want to make sure that I'm there for them. And in retrospect, I recognize that I did not handle the situation correctly and that on its own, was not valid.
Charlie Kirk
Final thoughts, 1 minute remaining. That is their alpha male apologizing for racism that doesn't even exist. That's what they're delivering to the American people.
The New Older Millennial
No, and that's the sad part, is that is the example of what a liberal man looks like these days. And. And I mean, and the sad thing is, is that if that's what you're aspiring to be, you're not going to inspire anyone.
Charlie Kirk
And that is well said. Thank you so much, my friend. Talk to you soon. Hope to see at one of our events upcoming. Thank you.
The New Older Millennial
Absolutely. I'll be there.
Charlie Kirk
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Release Date: May 1, 2025
Host: Charlie Kirk
Guest: Mark Halperin, Editor-in-Chief of TwoWay and Host of the "NextUp" Podcast
Charlie Kirk opens the episode by introducing Mark Halperin, commending his work and the success of his podcast, NextUp, which is currently outperforming other shows in the podcast charts. Kirk highlights Halperin's ability to attract top-tier guests, including political figures like Ted Cruz and Gavin Newsom.
Mark Halperin begins the discussion by reflecting on President Trump's first 100 days in office. He emphasizes that evaluating this period requires nuance, citing both successes and challenges.
Tariffs and Economic Policy:
Halperin points out that Trump's implementation of tariffs has been a double-edged sword. While intended to protect American industries, many experts view it as detrimental to the global economy. He states,
“[Trump’s] tariffs are considered by some as the greatest own goal in the history of politics” (05:00).
Foreign Policy - China and Ukraine:
He underscores the significant impact Trump's hardline stance on China has had, reshaping global economic dynamics. On Ukraine, Halperin discusses the complexities of ongoing conflicts, suggesting that Trump's administration is navigating a precarious balance without a clear path to resolution.
Legacy of Promises:
Halperin asserts that Trump has largely adhered to his campaign promises, managing expectations by focusing on actionable policies rather than introducing entirely new agendas.
“Most of what he's trying to do are not some projects that he's invented but that he ran on” (04:09).
Transitioning from national politics, Kirk introduces a compelling story about the failed attempt of a left-wing group, the UN F America Tour, to counter Turning Point USA's influence on college campuses.
Key Points:
Organizational Failures:
The UN F America Tour, led by influencers Dean and Parker, aimed to disrupt Turning Point USA's campus events but lacked proper planning and execution.
“They brought 52 creators for a four-hour talk just wasting money like that” (15:59).
Internal Conflicts and Accusations:
The group faced internal turmoil due to accusations of racism and microaggressions among organizers. This infighting led to the disintegration of their operations shortly after launch.
“Their entire operation has now collapsed… because of Wokeism and DEI” (19:00).
Implications of Wokeism:
Kirk and The New Older Millennial discuss how the adherence to woke ideologies undermined the group's cohesion and effectiveness, serving as a cautionary tale for similar organizations.
The conversation shifts to the role of social media platforms, particularly TikTok, in shaping political narratives and youth engagement.
Insights:
Conservative Success on TikTok:
The New Older Millennial highlights that conservative content creators are gaining traction, partly due to their authentic and unfiltered messaging.
“When they talk to us, they know it's genuine because we couldn't get a dime out of the RNC if we tried” (26:42).
Decline of Liberal Dominance:
There's a noticeable shift as liberal influencers face backlash and internal conflicts, whereas conservative voices like Turning Point USA are thriving and mobilizing significant youth followings.
“The liberals are increasingly not as viral on TikTok or dominant as they used to be” (26:42).
Future of Social Media Ownership:
Both Kirk and Halperin express optimism about potential changes in TikTok's ownership, which could further empower conservative content creators.
A significant portion of the discussion centers on the increasing inclination of young men towards conservatism, challenging the traditional liberal dominance in youth politics.
Key Factors:
Negative Messaging from Democrats:
Young men are being dissuaded by Democratic narratives that portray masculinity and assertiveness as negative traits.
“Young men are being told that they're evil, that being masculine is bad” (28:30).
Lack of Conservative Role Models:
The absence of positive masculine figures within liberal circles pushes young men towards conservative movements that offer clear examples of masculinity and purpose.
“They don't have examples of masculinity. They don't have anything that a man can aspire to on their side” (28:30).
Conservative Recognition of Reality:
Conservatism's pragmatic approach to challenges resonates with young men who seek realistic solutions rather than idealistic promises.
“We're conservatives. We recognize... it's going to take work” (27:32).
In wrapping up, Charlie Kirk emphasizes the resilience and strategic acumen of Turning Point USA. He underscores the organization's role in mobilizing youth and influencing political discourse.
Sustained Momentum:
Despite attempts by opposition groups to undermine their efforts, Turning Point USA continues to grow, drawing large crowds and expanding their influence across campuses.
Youth Empowerment:
The success stories of young entrepreneurs and small business owners thriving on platforms like TikTok serve as evidence of the conservative movement's positive impact on youth and economic growth.
Final Remarks:
Kirk reiterates the importance of building a robust and authentic conservative presence to counteract left-wing narratives, ensuring that young people find genuine role models and pathways to success.
Mark Halperin on Tariffs:
“Tariffs is such a big deal because I talk to serious people every day, and I know you do too, who think this is the greatest own goal in the history of politics” (05:00).
Charlie Kirk on Wokeism's Failure:
“Wokeism cannot run anything. You cannot run a church, you cannot run a company... you cannot run anything” (20:16).
The New Older Millennial on Victim Culture:
“If you get together so many people that are focused on being victims, that is the basis of their content” (20:16).
Mark Halperin on Foreign Policy:
“Confronting China, not just economically, but militarily, strategically, diplomatically, this is as big a play as I've seen any president I've covered done” (07:00).
This episode of "The Charlie Kirk Show" provides an in-depth analysis of President Trump's first 100 days, highlighting both achievements and contentious policies. Mark Halperin offers a balanced perspective on Trump's economic and foreign policies, while Charlie Kirk and The New Older Millennial shed light on the challenges faced by left-wing organizations attempting to counter conservative movements. The discussion underscores the shifting political landscape among young men and the growing influence of conservatism on social media platforms like TikTok. Overall, the episode presents a comprehensive view of contemporary American politics from a conservative standpoint, emphasizing the resilience and strategic growth of Turning Point USA amidst opposition.
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Note: This summary is crafted to provide a comprehensive overview for those who have not listened to the episode, capturing all critical discussions, insights, and conclusions drawn during the show.