The Charlie Kirk Show

Episode: Relentless Persistence with Mike Lindell

Date: June 26, 2021
Host: Charlie Kirk
Guest: Mike Lindell

Episode Overview

This episode, recorded live at NRB in Dallas, features an extended and uncensored conversation between Charlie Kirk and Mike Lindell, founder of MyPillow and a prominent supporter of Donald Trump. The central theme revolves around Lindell's claims regarding fraud in the 2020 U.S. presidential election, the personal and professional costs he's faced as a result, and his upcoming plans to publicize what he describes as incontrovertible evidence of a coordinated cyberattack on the U.S. election system. The tone is combative, urgent, and emotionally charged, with both men expressing passionate opposition to what they term "cancel culture" and the suppression of dissenting voices.

Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Personal Cost and Cancel Culture

[02:28–09:27]

• Lindell recounts the backlash beginning after January 9, 2021, when he publicly questioned the election results.
  • Details include:
    • Removal of MyPillow products from major retailers (QVC, HSN, ShopHQ, etc.).
    • Social media bans (Twitter, company Twitter accounts).
    • Attacks reaching international partners, vendors, and even personal acquaintances.
  • Quote:

    “It was every day. You lost four more retailers today. You lost your Twitter. You lost your company's Twitter. They attacked, they attacked everything all the way to Australia, from Australia to the UK to Israel. Anybody had association with me, they went after.”
    — Mike Lindell [03:10]

• Lindell frames these coordinated pressures as a result of asking questions and refusing to back down, believing that, “We are living this very small percent of the people that are out there canceling us... Big entities, the big big tech.” [07:15]
• Charlie emphasizes the importance of loyalty:

  “When good people come under attack that are friends of yours, you need to not allow bad people to tell you what to do.” [01:39]

2. Claims of Election Irregularities and Evidence

[09:27–19:11]

• Lindell asserts that anomalies in election returns, particularly the overnight swings in key states, indicate computer-driven fraud.
• Absolute Proof claims: On January 9, he says he received “a new piece of evidence” in the form of “packet captures” that could show votes were flipped from Trump to Biden through foreign interference.
  • Quote:

    “This was stuff off a computer that showed these flips, and it explained what I already knew mathematically.” [11:34]

• Lindell claims that mainstream media ignored his evidence:

  “I kept telling them I got the evidence... They didn't call, they didn't write... Crickets. Until I begged Dominion to sue me. They finally did.”
  — Mike Lindell [17:38]

• Describes attempts to get the evidence in front of judges and media; insists it’s never been considered by a court.

3. Explanation of “Packet Captures” (PCAPs)

[13:53–26:48]

• Lindell elaborates on the concept of “packet captures,” likening them to an immutable, forensic snapshot of data crossing the Internet.
  • Quote:

    “These packet captures are even better [than photographs]. They can’t be altered... It’s not subjective. You can’t argue it.”
    — Mike Lindell [15:04]

• He claims to possess packet captures for “the whole election,” purporting to show vote manipulation.
• Lindell plans a public “Cyber Symposium” to showcase this evidence to “every cyber guy,” mainstream and global media, and to legislators in August.

  “Everyone’s going to be invited... I want it to be seen by more people than Elvis Presley Hello from Hawaii in 1973. I want billions watching this.”
  — Mike Lindell [21:09]

4. Anticipated Outcomes and the Supreme Court

[24:11–30:20]

• Lindell adamantly defends the validity and immutability of the “packet captures.”
• Predicts that once revealed, the evidence will result in a unanimous (9-0) Supreme Court decision to overturn the 2020 election outcome.
  • Quote:

    “When the Supreme Court... sees this... they’re going to pull it in so fast they’re going to be heroes. There is going to be 9, 0 because it can’t be 5 to 4 or 7 to 2 because it’s not subjective evidence.”
    — Mike Lindell [25:00]

• Claims the evidence will unite the country, regardless of party, around the reality of “cyber warfare by China.”

  “This attack by China—this is going to be a great uniting of our country.” [19:57]

5. Broader Narrative and Spiritual Framing

[30:27–38:18]

• Both men contextualize Lindell’s activism within a broader frame of “spiritual battle,” “revival,” and a providential sense of mission.
  • Quote:

    “God put me here, gave me this big platform for such a time as this.”
    — Mike Lindell [30:37]

• Lindell asserts he would have exposed fraud even if it benefited Donald Trump.
• Charlie frames resistance to cancel culture as a moral imperative:

  “We beat cancel culture when we don’t allow weirdo bloggers to tell us who we could be friends with. You do what’s right and Mike, you’re a good man.” [41:41]

6. Call to Action and the Upcoming Symposium

[38:18–43:12]

• Lindell encourages listeners to contact their representatives about attending the August Cyber Symposium.
• Asserts that this public display will give “a second chance” to legislators, governors, and even the Supreme Court “to be counted as heroes.”
• Expresses gratitude for the public’s support and emphasizes the importance of standing up against fear.
  • Quote:

    “Everybody is coming forward and coming out of fear and not to be afraid of cancel culture and afraid of being erased.”
    — Mike Lindell [42:41]

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote | |---|---|---| | 03:10 | Mike Lindell | “It was every day. You lost four more retailers today. You lost your Twitter... They attacked everything.” | | 11:34 | Mike Lindell | “This was stuff off a computer that showed these flips, and it explained what I already knew mathematically.” | | 15:04 | Mike Lindell | “These packet captures are even better … They can’t be altered… It’s not subjective. You can’t argue it.” | | 17:38 | Mike Lindell | “I begged Dominion to sue me. They finally did.” | | 21:09 | Mike Lindell | “I want it to be seen by more people than Elvis Presley Hello from Hawaii in 1973. I want billions watching this.” | | 25:00 | Mike Lindell | “There is going to be 9, 0 because it can't be 5 to 4 or 7 to 2 because it's not subjective evidence.” | | 30:37 | Mike Lindell | “God put me here, gave me this big platform for such a time as this.” | | 41:41 | Charlie Kirk | “We beat cancel culture when we don’t allow these weirdo bloggers to tell us who we could be friends with. You do what's right…” | | 42:41 | Mike Lindell | “Everybody is coming forward and coming out of fear and not to be afraid of cancel culture and afraid of being erased.” |

Timestamps for Key Segments

• [02:28] — Lindell recounts personal and business consequences from his activism.
• [09:27] — Lindell discusses his claims regarding election evidence and pushback.
• [13:53] — Explains "packet captures," claims technical proof.
• [19:57] — Announces plans for the Cyber Symposium and its intended impact.
• [25:00] — Predicts Supreme Court outcome on his evidence.
• [30:37] — Discusses providence, personal motivation, and hypothetical reversal.
• [38:18] — Lays out the call to action for the August event.
• [41:41] — Charlie Kirk reiterates opposition to cancel culture and support for Lindell.

Summary

This episode serves as a platform for Mike Lindell to share his narrative regarding the 2020 election, his experience of mass “cancellation” by retailers and tech platforms, and his resolve to publicly present what he claims to be irrefutable evidence of electoral manipulation. Technical details are framed in layman’s terms, and both host and guest emphasize themes of loyalty, courage, patriotism, and providence. The episode is less a debate than a rallying conversation designed to energize listeners about Lindell’s upcoming symposium and reinforce their resistance to what the speakers frame as mainstream and corporate suppression.

Note: All claims summarized here reflect the speakers’ own views as expressed in the episode.