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Charlie Kirk
Hey, everybody. Charlie Kirk here live from the Bitcoin.com studio. A major revelation on amnesty. We are told that there is no amnesty, which should be welcomed with a sigh of relief. But also I explain how they're gonna try to do amnesty without the name of amnesty and we explore that. Then Senator Eric Schmidt joins the program from Missouri. And then we talk more about Russia, Ukraine and something I learned about Vladimir Putin. That's right. I learned something about Vladimir Putin and Russia that I want to share with you. And that is towards the end of the episode. So listen all the way through something I learned about the Russian war that is very interesting. Email us. As always, freedomarlicirk.com Become a member today. Members.charliekirk.com and get involved with turningpointusa.com okay, everybody. It is the event of the summer coming up in Tampa, Florida. It's an event unlike any other. It is our student Action Summit. All ages are welcome. It's sas2025.com we have Pete Hegseth coming, Kristi Noem, Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelly, Donald Trump Jr. Steve Bannon, Greg Gutfeld, Laura Ingram, Ross Ulbricht, Byron Donalds, Tom Homan, Ben Carson, Brett Cooper, Michael Knowles, Brandon Tatum, Benny Johnson, Jack Posobic, riley gaines, james o' keefe and more. That is sas2025.com youm can find your future wife, your future husband, your future soulmate, future job and a career. Go to sas2025.com that is sas2025.com for this game changing, life changing event. So take a look at it right now at sas2025.com sas2025.com Email us as always, freedomarliekirk.com Buckle up, everybody. Here we go. Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
Senator Eric Schmidt
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Charlie Kirk
Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks. I want to thank Charlie. He's an incredible guy. His spirit, his love of this country. He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point usa. We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives. And we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country. That's why we are here. Noble Gold Investments is the official gold sponsor of the Charlie Kirk Show, a company that specializes in gold IRAs and physical delivery of precious metals. Learn how you could protect your wealth with Noble gold investments@noblegoldinvestments.com that is noblegoldinvestments.com it's where I buy all of my gold. Go to noblegoldinvestments.com yesterday we made some news and it seems, it's very interesting, we made some news as we reported on this program that there was a push below the surface to try and sneak in amnesty after the passage of the one big beautiful bill. Now mind you, a lot of people covered this yesterday, but no one called us a liar. Do you notice that? No one said that we were lying and said we had Jim Banks, we had Mike Lee, we had Eric Schmidt all come out and affirm and say no amnesty. In addition, we had Byron Donalds come on our program on this show and say, yep, Charlie, I'm hearing the very same rumors. In fact, I received a phone call from a top senator yesterday while I was actually in the gym and he said, a guy that I know and he says, charlie, I saw your tweet, saw your show, I'm gonna say is that there are some conversations out there. How did you know? We have very good sources here and he assured me that it was not going to be amnesty. Now in that conversation, many other conversations, I have an idea of what potentially could be proposed and we're gonna try to flush it out, we're gonna explain it. But very important though, the Secretary of agriculture and a friend of mine, I've known her for well over a decade, Brooke Rollins, who's a good person, came out today and she said declaratively, no amnesty. She came out today and she said, there will be no amnesty. The mass deportations will continue. But in a strategic way. Brooke Rollins deserves credit for this because she's going to get a lot of heat from the agricultural lobby. She's going to get a lot of heat from the farm lobby. So good for you Brooke Rollins, for saying this. Let's play cut 296. I think we'll probably hear a little bit more about this today and the conversations will continue. But I can't underscore enough. There will be no amnesty. The mass deportations continue, but in a strategic way. And we move the workforce towards automation and 100% American participation, which again, with 34 million people, able bodied adults on Medicaid, we should be able to do that fairly quickly. Now strategic way is understandable, but we also must keep the heat on. Which means that, look, if there are some farms that have engaged with illegals for the last 10 years, they gotta go. However, there's a process which is like we're give you 20 day warning, you know, 15 day warning. You have to scale back. You have to be able to find American labor or find legal immigrant labor if necessary. Again, that whole legal H2BV side, I'm a little skeptical. I think that whole thing's a little bit of a scam, by the way, of all the different places that we need to do deportations, there are places that are just glaring in front of us where, yes, we can work the farms, but there are places that are currently displacing Americans that want a lot of other jobs in this country. We have a legal immigration system, which, by the way, I think we need a full pause on because we have way too many people in this country, but they should not be here in the first place. And it's been this amazing last 24 hours to witness major senators, major lawmakers come out and affirm exactly what we have been saying on this program. And to reiterate saying, charlie, you're right, there is a push for this. Now, I want to now articulate what some people are proposing as the solution, because right now we have a declarative statement. President Trump's not standing for amnesty. Brooke Rollins not standing for amnesty. But this is a little bit of a word game. It's going to be a little bit of semantics. So let me tell you what will likely be a proposal that will be shot out there. And the word. Let me be very clear. The word amnesty is dead, but the essence of amnesty very well might not be dead. I'm just going to be honest. We have killed the word hammestine. No one's using the word amnesty. We have just completely just buried the word amnesty. It is so unpopular, no one's ever gonna use it. But the spirit of amnesty is still very much Alive in Washington, D.C. not from Brooke and not from President Trump. I think that they are standing firm with their base, but that does not mean that there will be a 1, 2, 3 combo move. And just this morning, I got a text message that reiterates this good guy owns a hotel and some other stuff. He says, charlie, I can't find workers and I can't run my hotel. I mean, there's gonna be a kind of a red alert, kind of 10 out of 10 DEFCON One crisis that will be communicated from the corporate class saying that we need a bunch of illegals. We can't keep our businesses open. So that's gonna be the opening salvo. Let me tell you what is gonna happen, is that you're going to see a narrative in the next Couple of months at some way. Cuz you know, they're distracted right now. And by the way, the stuff in Texas, you're going to see a narrative and when you see one of these synthetic counterfeit narratives. That's why the Charlie Kirkshot what we do here on this program is so important. We are pre bunking and we are preparing you for what is coming next. Is there will be all of a sudden front page of Wall Street Journal, front page New York Times. It'll be so concocted, it'll be so synthetic. You'll be like, this seems fake because we're pre bunking it. And it'll basically say massive amounts of businesses can't find workers because of Trump's mass deportation. So that will be the prerequisite and it might happen this summer. Don't be shocked if they're saying summer vacations are being put in jeopardy by Trump's mass deportations. So that is the leading argument. It'll come from the corporate class. It'll come from a you can't enjoy your leisure because of mass deportations for maids and for cooks and for janitors. So that will be the opening salvo and they're gonna say, crops are rotting in the field. And then they'll say, because of this, here is what their proposal will be. So then someone will say this because I heard it from a lawmaker yesterday, I heard it from a lawmaker yesterday and he wasn't even saying he supported. He said, well, this is what some people are discussing on the Hill and it's the following. And then we will. I will tell you why it is seemingly reasonable, but it's a catastrophically bad idea. They will remember, the left will always exploit an alleged emergency. If we do not have sweeping quasi amnesty, we'll starve and our businesses will collapse. Remember, during COVID if we don't lock down the schools, kids are going to die. I'm sorry, I don't believe you anymore. When you come to these incredibly hyperbolic emergency type signals, it's an interesting time for business. Tariff and trade policies are dynamic, supply chains are squeezed and cash flow tighter than ever. If your business can't adapt in real time, you're in a world of hurt. Netsuite is the number one cloud ERP for many reasons. 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You know, you've worked as a chef. Okay, now hold on now. First of all, I principally don't share that view, but I understand if you do. However, someone is likely to propose illegals that have been here for 10 years committed no crimes. They should be given a pathway to legal residency, not citizenship. Okay? So I want you to think about this in three different steps. Number one, we do not know how many illegals are in America and there is no record whatsoever of when they came in. The Democrats are not wrong about something. They are undocumented. We have no documentation whatsoever. Therefore, there is a great mystery around their status. So if someone has been here 16 years or someone has been here for six months, how do you define this? The 1986amnesty was like this. Three million people got it, way more than were expected. People were still claiming that amnesty within the past decade. So the 86amnesty lasted many more years. You can still claim it, by the way, as long as you argue you did agricultural labor in 1985. So basically, you're expanding a window that as long as you're willing to lie, you can get some form of amnesty. Now, here's the key, though. Here's the kicker that's important, but the more important one that will end this proposal and it should make it doa. So therefore, since we do not know when illegals came in, if ICE, for example, has their hands on a MS.13 gang member who has not necessarily committed crimes, but he needs to go, all that MS.13 gang member needs to do is say, nope, you can't deport me. I've been here for 10 years. And that person then gets put into a three to five year court process. This would effectively end all deportations immediately in our country. All of them. What I'm saying, though, is that it sounds good. Illegals that have been here for 10 years, no crimes, pathway to legal residency. Every single illegal, every bad hombre would say, well, I've been here for 10 years. And they might be lying, but what they're doing is more intentional, is that they're going to delay the process and short circuit all deportations in real time. This basically another way of thinking about this is they would use the asylum scam model, where our asylum system is a total scam. So they know that if you go to the southern border and say the magic words, hocus pocus, you're able to then abracadabra, you're able to stay in the country. So what this proposal, and again, it's not an official proposal, it's still in the ethereum, but we need to kill it now, early. What it would be able to do is that every illegal would in real time, as soon as an ICE officer comes up to them, the ICE officer would not be able to lay hands on them. They'd say, nope, I've been here for 10 years. I've been here for 10 years, sorry. And the ICE officer could say, no, no, I have to have a court date. And that court date would be five to seven years, three to five to seven years. It would stop all deportations in real time. So if you think about it, it's so smart from the open borders lobby. So I want you to think about it as a open borders zealot. So an open border zealot. They want every single one of these people to stay. They want the great replacement. They know that Trump has momentum on mass deportations. They know that people voted for it. And they know that all of a sudden that we have the one big beautiful bill. So if you were an open border zealot, how do you then keep these tens of millions of people in the country? How do you keep these tens of millions of people in the country? You keep them by having just a rhetorical and a linguistic tool, basically a way that stops all deportation in real time. You would end all deportations with this. And so then what the open borders designer and architect would do is to have this ridiculous loophole. The same way our asylum system has allowed millions of people in a country that should not be there, and we can't deport them. And they do it on the good intentions of maga, the good intentions that a lot of common sense people, they say, you know, you've been here for 17 years, so it's using our good hope heart against us. And isn't this the pattern of how they have changed America by mass migration. We have big hearts, we have, we're compassionate. So they would weaponize the compassion and you would then have 20 million people. Every time someone would try to be deported and say all they would have to do is be instructed and say, I've been here for more than a decade. And even if you know they are lying, it would take five years to adjudicate that lie. Therefore short circuiting our entire mass deportation agenda. Tired of hearing that fossil fuels are ruining the planet? Well, here's what the headlines won't tell you. 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Now Senator, I promise you that I will not mention what happened on Sunday night. It was a glorious night in many different ways, but I know you were watching too. I was texting you. Oh, that's a beautiful song, isn't it? I think it's go Cubs, go. See, I knew you were gonna do.
Senator Eric Schmidt
I got it. This is my shield, my David Freeze shield.
Charlie Kirk
I was gonna say, Is that Mark McGuire? I was.
Senator Eric Schmidt
No, it's David Freeze, the hero of the 2011 World Series. I had to have some kind of protection. I knew you're gonna come at me with this nonsense.
Charlie Kirk
No, no, listen, listen. Where it's a long season and once the baseball is fun again this summer. It's just been when the Cubs are good, baseball is better. I know that you disagree down in Busch Stadium, but 11 nothing. I was like, what am I watching?
Senator Eric Schmidt
That was rough.
Charlie Kirk
That was rough. That was rough. Senator, great to see you lot happening here. You chimed in yesterday and you agreed what we said about no amnesty. I got a call from another US Senator saying, Charlie, there are some discussions about this. Again, informal, still kind of rumor. What are you hearing? What is the kind of chatter in the U.S. senate?
Senator Eric Schmidt
So what's interesting is I got back to Missouri after the big beautiful bill and so I've kind of tried to unplug a little bit. So I, I'm flying literally after the show. I'm catching a flight and so I'm going to check into this. I would just be shocked, honestly. There's just no way you can go from campaigning. One of the two big issues. And I. You did too. A lot of time. I spent a lot of time with them on the campaign trail. I mean, he talked about obviously inflation and then migration and you meet mass migration with mass deportations in the big beautiful bill. Front loads now, money to finish the wall, build detention beds, have, you know, a lot more ICE agents to go do this thing. I just don't, I can't believe that we would consider mass amnesty at this point. So I'm going to check into it. I'm glad you sort of raised in the alarm bell on this, but.
Charlie Kirk
As.
Senator Eric Schmidt
I tweeted out on the meme, my offer is this. Nothing. There's just no way we can go down this road right now.
Charlie Kirk
It's not gonna happen, period. End of story. And that's why we have to try to pre bunk this and we need to try and flush it out early because it would be a redline coalition killer and it came out and it's coming out of nowhere. I totally agree. Again, I don't do this lightly, but we had.
Senator Eric Schmidt
Byron, no, I trust you on it. Yeah, that's what you're hearing. There's something to it. We just got to make sure that we nip it in the bud.
Charlie Kirk
So, so, so the big beautiful bill passed. It's a phenomenal and significant achievement. And now we are seeing ambushes of ICE agents across the country. I want to play some of this here. We have not covered this nearly as much as we should. But let's go to this one here. This is 308. Fox reports that 10 suspects have been arrested and charged with with attempted murder after a violent attack on ICE and Border Patrol agents. Play cut 308, please. As we told you earlier, a police officer was shot in the neck. So Here are the 10 suspects. They are all charged with attempted murder. And of course, it's just one of several recent attacks on ICE and Border Patrol agents and facilities. And Senator Mark Wayne Mullen Spoke to us about it last hour. Watch. It's not surprising when you have the Democrats that are out there constantly vitalizing the ICE agents, actually leading the charge towards obstruction and getting in their way and not treating them with respect as true law enforcement. This is going to continue to happen and the Democrats should be held responsible that have been vitalizing the ICE agents for the last, what, three months, four months? Senator, what's going on here?
Senator Eric Schmidt
Yeah, I think this is, sadly, this is a natural progression, Charlie, from this issue was squarely in front of the voters in November. They voted for President Trump for deportations. This issue has been in front of the courts now, and Trump, by and large is winning these court battles to move forward with deportations. And so now the radical left is moving to the next tactic, which is violence. And you've got Democrat senators, you've got other folks who are encouraging this kind of really dangerous sort of resistance movement. These are law enforcement officers that risk their lives to uphold the laws of the United States of America. And the fact is the American people want deportations even. I mean, every last one of them, every last illegal immigrant that's here. That's what people, if you look at the polling, Charlie, that's what people are supportive of completely. So these ICE agents are just doing their jobs. And you've got this report in Axios that some Democrat sources now are saying their base wants to confront this with more, you know, sort of vigor and maybe somebody needs to be shot kind of thing. This is just from the Axios piece. It's crazy. It's totally crazy. And what's amazing too is this level of intensity you don't see for American citizens. It's sort of like with Ukraine. A lot of those on the left, they're way more interested in defending the borders of some other country than they are of our own. It's really strange. It's part Trump derangement syndrome. It's part kind of, I think this globalist mentality that everybody deserves to be here in the America is no different than any other place. And we should just let everybody in and act, you know, have access to communities and taxpayer funded services. It's ridiculous. So I think this is our time to prove that we are truly a sovereign country, that we're not gonna be intimidated, that we put this money up, we're gonna hire more people, we're gonna deport more people, and there's nothing the left can do to stop it. They lost an election over it, they're losing in court over it. The people are with us. And every Democrat should be condemning the kind of violence that we're seeing with these assaults that we saw, these ambushes. And sadly, I hope that we've seen the last of it. But given the rhetoric, I'm not. We have.
Charlie Kirk
I want to reinforce what you're saying here, which is the American people overwhelmingly support mass deportation of all illegal immigrants. And this is what's very important, is that the American ruling class, they are physically and culturally disconnected from the consequences of mass migration. But the middle class, they have to go see emergency rooms overrun, they see their public schools overrun, they see their infrastructure overrun. They also just see a changing body politic. This is 250. It's a very powerful clip from CNN play cut. 250 deported, all immigrants who are here illegally. 55% the New York Times, Marquette, 64%. CBS News, 57%. ABC News with a slightly different question, 56%. So what you're seeing essentially here is a very clear indication that a majority.
Senator Eric Schmidt
Of Americans, in fact, when they're asked this blunt question, which I believe gets.
Charlie Kirk
At the underlying feelings, do in fact.
Senator Eric Schmidt
Want to deport all immigrants who are here illegally? There's no arguing with these different numbers because they're all essentially the same across.
Charlie Kirk
Four different pollsters, Senator. Four different pollsters. And that is after all the media's attacks on ICE and their slandering of everything happening. Your reaction, Senator?
Senator Eric Schmidt
Yeah, I think we're playing offense now. We've got the high ground on this and we can't lose the moment. This is a sort of a cultural issue now. People don't. People are connecting the dots, Charlie. Sort of what happened in this sort of post Cold War mentality, this globalist vision of what could be is that these NGOs were funded, they fuel censorship in Europe, they fuel mass migration into this country. And you had good jobs that were shipped overseas to cheaper labor. And so you have Americans who were left behind and all that. And then you have the importation then of mass migration of low wage workers to take the jobs that were left. And people now see it, they reject it. They don't want that to be America moving forward. And that's part of the reason why people support this. They also feel like Americans are big hearts and are of goodwill, but they also believe that a country is defined by its borders. And I think what you saw in the last administration were a bunch of left wing radicals that were writing white papers, suddenly were in charge and had access in the Oval Office and it couldn't. They Couldn't believe their luck in the power that they had and they literally just threw open the border. So you got 15 to 20 million people in short order coming to communities. Again, to your point, taxpayer funded resources, school districts, hospitals, you know, and so when we talk about the big beautiful bill in Medicaid, you know, the Democrats wanted to act like all these in their media allies. All these people are going to lose coverage. Literally the only people who are going to lose Medicaid coverage are illegal immigrants enabled bodied adults with no kids who choose not to work. That's it. That's the truth. And so when people are waiting for, when individuals with disabilities or pregnant moms or poor kids can't get a doctor's appointment, you know exactly why they can't is because the, the, the social state here, run by the Democrats have extended this to people who don't deserve to get those benefits. And that's part of the battle that's raging on. But I do think we're winning the argument and we got to continue to press forward and I think the next step now that we've secured the border effectively is to remove the people who are here illegally. You start with the worst of the worst, but you can't stop there because people are tired of it. They're tired of being taken advantage of.
Charlie Kirk
What, what do we need to do? Last question here. To prevent the Chinese Communist Party from purchasing farmland. I know this is something that you've, you've cared a lot about. I want to make sure we get this in. Under no means should we allow Chinese Communist Party oligarchs to buy single family homes or let alone farms in our country. And I look at these young kids that are trying to buy homes in Scottsdale and they're getting priced out by either private equity or by Chinese Communist Party purchasers. Your thoughts, Senator?
Senator Eric Schmidt
Yeah. We have to change the way we view communist China. This isn't some trading partner that we want to have, you know, get cheap goods from. This is the 21st century, Charlie, will be defined by who wins this great powers competition. United States of America or communist China. They are a country that has concentration camps, they are building islands, they're fully weaponized, they have hypersonic missiles. They would love to infiltrate our country, control supply chains even here at home. That's their play on farmland. And by the way, it is worth noting that drone attack that you saw in you in Russia from the Ukrainians. We are naive not to think that we have vulnerabilities and we better recognize that China will take Full advantage of any vulnerability if it's ever go time. And we have to treat them like that.
Charlie Kirk
Senator, keep up the great work. Thank you so much. And safe journeys to dc. And you just gotta tell your colleagues, no amnesty. And by the way, also none of this like, oh, illegals have been here for 10 years. And I just wanna just get your ear on this really quick. We don't know how many illegals there are. We don't know how long they've been here. And therefore, if that's the new criteria, all someone would have to do that even there are six months, is say they're here for 10 years. And it would literally short circuit all deportations. Think about the asylum scam on steroids. So even if someone says, well, it's not citizenship, it's a loophole that would be able to stop the entire deportation agenda. So just kind of keep one other.
Senator Eric Schmidt
Thing, one thing that we should do. We have an expedited removal process in the statute, but that's only for two years. And so I've actually got legislation to expand that beyond the two years so you can actually deport. You can move for deportations quicker. So don't just limit it to two years. Include a larger category of people and go beyond two years. Because quite frankly, what Biden did at the. At the beginning of his term, term, which was criminal, is now four or five years ago. So we should expand that as well.
Charlie Kirk
Totally agree, Senator. Thank you. And be our voice fighting up against amnesty. And I have to. I have to do a better job of saying your title. Senator Eric Schmidt from Missouri. Because we're on radio 250 radio stations across the country. Senator, thank you so much.
Senator Eric Schmidt
All right, brother. Thanks, Charlie.
Charlie Kirk
Keep up the great work. That's go Cubs, go. He heard it. Yeah, he's heard it. There it is. We got it in time. Yeah. Get him off screen 11. Nothing. What was I watching a football game or something? That's brutal. Private student loan debt in America totals over $300 billion. About 45 billion of that is labeled as distressed. Yrefi refinances distressed or defaulted private student loans that others will not touch. Yrefi can reduce your monthly payment and guarantees interest rates under 6%, ensuring affordability and financial relief. Go to yrefi.com that is yrefy.com do you have a co borrower? Why? Refi can get them released from the loan and you can give mom or dad a break. Just call 888-yrefi34. That is 888-yrefi34 and may not be available in all 50 states. Can you imagine being debt free and not living under this burden anymore? We'll go to yrefi.com that is yre f y.com that is yrefi.com bad credit is accepted. And do you have a co borrower? 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But further funding a kinetic conflict against Russia and the Russian Federation is not our fight, not our conflict. And honestly, we have to be. We have to be consistent. We were against it with Biden. Why would we be for it now unless it gets us to a peace settlement? Let's go to 322 Place. Are you planning to send more weapons to Ukraine? We're going to send some more weapons. We have to. They have to be able to defend themselves. They're getting hit very hard now. They're getting hit very hard. We're going to have to send more weapons, your defensive weapons primarily. But they're getting hit very, very hard. So many people are dying in that mess. So let me tell you, probably Putin's calculation here, and this would be the defense of President Trump. Even though I'm not thrilled about it, I think that it's time to cut off the funding of this war and make these sides fight for themselves. I've said that the entire time and I'm going to be consistent on that. But if I were to defend President Trump, because I think he's, I mean, first of all, he's usually right on this stuff on foreign policy. What President Donald Trump is saying here is basically Putin smells weakness and if there is no sign of strength from the west behind Ukraine Putin will just continue to march forward. Now, it's a very interesting thing. I was sitting with a senior official from the State Department this last weekend, and I was picking his brain. I said, isn't Russia suffering major losses? He said, oh, yeah, Russia is suffering huge casualties. Massive. So I asked the question, I said, well, then, why isn't Putin feeling any domestic political pressure to end the war? And he said, that's a great question. So basically, and I was educated on this, this last weekend, is that Putin, very smart, very sinister, has divided Russia into effectively two countries. There is Moscow and St. Petersburg, which is the wealthier parts, the very wealthy industrial parts of Russia, and then there's the rest of Russia, basically all rural Russia, which is very, very poor, basically second or third world poor. So what Putin has done is when he does conscriptions, he has actually done a draft actually since the breakout of the war. Instead, what he does, because a draft would be very politically unpopular, what he does is he goes to the rural areas and he offers a ridiculously high signing bonus, more than what anyone would make in a year in these very poor areas. So these young men sign up for the signing bonus. And the cannon fodder basically comes from places like Chechnya and Dagestan in the Muslim regions. And Putin has not touched like a single person, a single young man from Moscow or St. Petersburg, because if he were to start to try to do a draft in Moscow and St. Petersburg, he would have a major political problem on his hands. If all of a sudden that the more wealthy educated, like the teachers and the professors and the engineers in Moscow and St. Petersburg, if their sons were going to go die, this war would be over very quickly. The children of people who could not bring down his government are the ones that are getting torched. And that was a real aha moment for me because, look, Russia historically does well with a war of attrition, but Moscow is a first world city. It's a very wealthy city. It's not, again, Russia is not necessarily wealthy like America. But understand, this is kind of like a Russian version of the fortunate son. And that is why Putin is able to continue the fact that he's losing thousands of people of a week. He is staying away from the quote, unquote, sons of the Russian ruling class. And he has bought, at a very, like, let's just say would say, high price, the lives of cannon fodder from the rural areas. Thanks so much for listening, everybody. Email us as always, freedomarliekirk.com thanks so much for listening and God Bless. For more on many of these stories and news you can Trust, go to charliekirk.com.
The Charlie Kirk Show – Episode Summary: "Say It Again: No Amnesty!"
Release Date: July 8, 2025
Introduction
In the episode titled "Say It Again: No Amnesty!", host Charlie Kirk delves into the pressing issue of immigration policy in the United States, focusing on the absence of amnesty and the ongoing efforts to implement mass deportations. Joined by Senator Eric Schmidt from Missouri, Kirk explores the latest developments, public sentiment, and the broader implications for American society and governance.
1. The Amnesty Revelation
Timestamp: [00:00 – 05:00]
Charlie Kirk opens the discussion with a significant update on the topic of amnesty. He announces that official amnesty is not forthcoming, a development he welcomes as a positive outcome. However, Kirk warns of attempts to circumvent this decision by introducing similar policies under different nomenclature. He emphasizes the importance of remaining vigilant against such strategies to ensure that the core objectives of preventing amnesty are maintained.
Key Quote:
"We are told that there is no amnesty, which should be welcomed with a sigh of relief." – Charlie Kirk [00:00]
2. Conversation with Senator Eric Schmidt
Timestamp: [01:42 – 22:38]
Senator Eric Schmidt joins the program to reinforce the stance against amnesty. He praises Kirk's efforts, stating, "Charlie, you've done an incredible job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA" ([01:42]). The Senator shares insights from recent discussions within the Senate, expressing skepticism about any forthcoming amnesty proposals despite rumors of their existence.
Schmidt highlights the unanimous commitment among top lawmakers to continue mass deportations, emphasizing that Secretary of Agriculture Brooke Rollins has publicly confirmed the absence of amnesty ([09:00]). He outlines potential loopholes that opponents might exploit to undermine deportation efforts, such as allowing undocumented immigrants to claim long-term residency without citizenship, thereby delaying or halting deportations.
Key Quote:
"There will be no amnesty. The mass deportations continue, but in a strategic way." – Senator Eric Schmidt [16:56]
3. Recent Attacks on ICE and Border Patrol Agents
Timestamp: [19:11 – 23:29]
The discussion shifts to recent violent attacks targeting Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and Border Patrol agents. Kirk references a news clip (Cut 308) reporting on ten suspects charged with attempted murder following attacks on federal agents. Senator Schmidt attributes these attacks to radical elements within the Democratic Party, accusing them of inciting violence against law enforcement through obstructionist rhetoric.
Schmidt underscores that such violence is a "natural progression" from intensified political and legal battles over immigration, asserting that Democrat-fueled resistance is escalating to dangerous levels ([20:32]). He argues that these actions stem from a broader ideological conflict, where some Democrats prioritize globalist agendas over national sovereignty and security.
Key Quote:
"These ICE agents are just doing their jobs. And you've got this report in Axios that some Democrat sources now are saying their base wants to confront this with more vigor." – Senator Eric Schmidt [20:32]
4. Public Opinion on Deportations
Timestamp: [23:29 – 26:06]
Charlie Kirk presents compelling polling data indicating overwhelming public support for the deportation of illegal immigrants. Citing four different reputable news sources, Kirk notes that between 55% to 64% of Americans favor deporting all individuals residing in the country illegally ([25:00]). This consensus reflects widespread concern over the economic and social impacts of illegal immigration, particularly on the middle class, who bear the brunt of strained public services and job competition.
Key Quote:
"There is a very clear indication that a majority of Americans, in fact, when they're asked this blunt question, want to deport all immigrants who are here illegally." – Charlie Kirk [23:34]
5. Chinese Communist Party's Involvement in U.S. Farmland
Timestamp: [26:06 – 28:31]
The conversation transitions to national security concerns regarding the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) purchasing farmland in the United States. Senator Schmidt articulates the strategic threat posed by CCP investments, asserting that such acquisitions could undermine American sovereignty and economic stability. He warns that CCP oligarchs are targeting valuable agricultural assets to gain covert influence over critical food supply chains and infrastructure.
Schmidt emphasizes the necessity of restricting CCP ownership of American land to safeguard national interests and prevent foreign control over essential resources.
Key Quote:
"We have to change the way we view communist China. This isn't some trading partner that we want to have, you know, get cheap goods from. This is the 21st century, Charlie, will be defined by who wins this great powers competition." – Senator Eric Schmidt [26:34]
6. U.S. Foreign Policy: Ukraine and Putin’s Strategy
Timestamp: [28:31 – End]
In the latter part of the episode, Kirk discusses President Donald Trump's recent decision to supply more arms to Ukraine. While personally conflicted about the escalation, Kirk defends Trump’s approach as a means to regain leverage against Vladimir Putin. He explores Putin's tactics in prolonging the war in Ukraine, noting Putin's strategy of conscripting soldiers from economically disadvantaged regions to maintain domestic support while depleting Ukraine's defenses.
Kirk shares an insightful analysis based on a conversation with a State Department official, revealing how Putin avoids drafting individuals from Moscow and St. Petersburg to prevent domestic political backlash. This strategy allows Russia to sustain its military efforts without undermining the economic backbone of its major cities.
Key Quote:
"Putin has divided Russia into effectively two countries. There is Moscow and St. Petersburg... and then there's the rest of Russia, basically all rural Russia, which is very, very poor." – Charlie Kirk [27:06]
Conclusion
Charlie Kirk and Senator Eric Schmidt provide a comprehensive look into the current state of U.S. immigration policy, emphasizing the rejection of amnesty and the commitment to mass deportations. They address the challenges posed by violent opposition to federal agents and highlight strong public support for stringent immigration controls. Additionally, the episode touches on broader national security issues, including the influence of foreign powers like China and the complexities of U.S. foreign policy in regions like Ukraine. Overall, the conversation underscores a resolute stance on maintaining national sovereignty and ensuring the safety and economic well-being of American citizens.
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