Charlie Kirk (0:00)

Hey, everybody. It's on the Charlie Kirk Show. Syria. Why are we getting involved? Well, we shouldn't we explain the Syria conflict from our analysis, then bring in KT McFarland as well. Email us as always, freedomarlykirk.com and subscribe to our podcast. Open up your podcast application and type in Charlie Kirk show and become a member today. Members.charliekirk.com that is members.charliekirkweb get involved with Turning Point USA at tpusa.com or Turning Point Action at tpaction.com Buckle up, everybody. Here we go. Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

KT McFarland (0:30)

Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.

Charlie Kirk (0:32)

I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks. I want to thank Charlie. He's an incredible guy.

KT McFarland (0:41)

His spirit, his love of this country.

Charlie Kirk (0:42)

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We have over 400,000 donors, 400,000 people that donate so very, very big and substantial gifts, but also people giving $5, $10 and $15. So this weekend was just remarkable and gives us the ability to sprint into 2025 uninterrupted and continue to grow and to scale all of the necessary programming so that we can reclaim our republic. Some remarkable news happened this weekend. While we were doing our event at Mar a Lago and presenting to donors, I was keeping an eye on the story that I've cared about for the last decade. Now, I'm by no means an expert, but it doesn't require expertise to necessarily understand this from at least a 30,000 foot view, which is Syria has fallen. And for those of you that remember back almost 14 years ago, it was the beginning of the Syrian civil war. That was during the Arab Spring. And the Syrian civil war received a lot of attention. Bashar al Assad was especially cruel in how he would fight the Syrian civil war against the rebels. And this was going on for years and years. And they said, oh my goodness, is Assad going to fall? Is the regime going to topple? And of course, Russia would come in the very, very close with Syria for pipeline reasons and many others and would always have Bashar al Assad's back. And there were many moments throughout the last 14 years where it looked as if Bashar al Assad was on shaky ground. But the last five to six years, it seemed as if the Syrian civil war has kind of become a cold war. The rebels were largely in exile, that they didn't have a lot of gusto. They didn't have really what it took to be able to eventually topple the Assad regime. Now, remember, the Assad regime is a family dynasty dating back 50 or 60 years. It is a total dictatorship. Now, by no means am I a fan of Bashar al Assad, nor are you. However, you must understand that these rebels are not exactly the most admirable people that you could be supporting. In fact, you could make a very, very good argument that the rebels are worse than Bashar al Assad. And this weekend, the regime of Assad has fallen and the rebels took over. Now we have Casey McFarland joining us to kind of go through some of the details associated here. But the first takeaway is, is there a good guy and a bad guy in this equation? Like so much of the warmongering in the Middle east, it's actually a far murkier than the people in Washington, D.C. would tell you. The new rulers of Syria are a radical Islamic terror group called Hayat Tayr Al Sham. This group's origin is a group known as Al Nusra Front, which often has been known as Al Qaeda's branch in Syria. Their origins trace back to the insurgents who fought America in Iraq. Now, these are the new leaders of Syria, and we have seen a pattern. We saw this largely in Iraq. We saw this in Libya, and we're probably going to see this in Syria, where the equation is something as the following. You have a strong man, brutal dictator like Saddam Hussein or Muammar Gaddafi, and the west doesn't like that person. Fair enough. However, when you replace that person, what do you get in its stead? Well, with Saddam Hussein, you got the rise of ISIS and of course, American taxpayers that had to pour hundreds of billions of dollars to rebuild Iraq and didn't even do a good job of that. In Libya, we got a Libyan civil war. And now in Syria, what is going to replace it? Well, the leader of this new group, this new government, is Abu Mohammed Al Julani. He was a member of Al Qaeda in Iraq when they were blowing up US Troops. Now, there's several operative questions here. The most important and most significant is, is this a concern to the United States of America? Is it really matter who is controlling Syria for our immediate interests, for what we care about, while our own border is open, our currency is being jeopardized as American strength is being put in large question? And why are some people in Washington, D.C. including the Biden administration, trying to favor the rebels over Bashar al Assad? And the reason is they have this romantic idea that anybody but Assad would be better. And that is not the case. Instead, you have two ugly forces that are fighting it out in Syria. And Christians are now in a lot of trouble in Syria. The Christian population is going to be targeted. They are going to be largely massacred. Al Juhani has made some maneuvers to represent himself as a moderate. Now, if that's correct, great. However, we should be clear. This man is a lifelong terrorist who has migrated from country to country for the sake of terrorism and Islamic extremism. And now he finds himself in Syria. And even some members of the US Congress, including Republicans, are celebrating that this terrorist is now controlling a rather major country. I mean, Syria is a big, big country with a lot of Christian history, with a lot of a significant Christian population. Yet we were told for years by Lindsey Graham and by John McCain and the Warmongers in the Republican Party that the rebels are the best people ever, the Kurds are wonderful and that we need to give them armaments and that as long as we fight Assad, things are great. It's not that simple. The DC uniparty war mongering machine oversimplifies highly complex tribal histories, cultural battles to try to make it seem as if it is a black and white good versus evil circumstance when in reality the truth in foreign policy is almost always found in the nuance. Our support for Syrian rebels caused Christians to fall from about 10% of Syria's population to just about 2% of Syria's population due to the ethnic cleansing and genocide. Syria is one of the oldest Christian communities on the planet and now it's on the brink of extinction. So be very careful which side you are cheering for here. Again, nobody here is pro Assad. He's cruel. He probably used chemical weapons. Not a good guy. However, these situations tend to get us overly involved because of the mythologies that are told by our politicians. So they put forward a myth on cable news. Bad guy falls, good guys rise. We feel as if we now need to send armaments, money, support. What I'm telling you is it's not our problem. It's not. It's a tragedy that a lot of Christians are going to be hurt and we should try through any way possible of rescue efforts and getting them out. However, it's not our role to involve ourselves militarily. Every war in the Middle east is longer, more complex, more expensive and more morally fraught than the people in D.C. will tell you. So we should stay out. And maybe instead of hubris and pride, the correct and the necessary attitude is a little bit of humility. We don't know. We don't know how to fix it. 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And it's just the arrogance it takes to do something like this. So he also tweeted this over the weekend. He's getting a lot of attention. The Assad crime family has terrorized the people of Syria for over 50 years. Their reign of terror is over. Okay, I agree. They probably are crime family. I mean, almost every single dictatorship in the Middle east has some sort of mafioso tendencies, but no one's debating that. That's a completely separate issue. The road ahead will not be easy. But the Syrian people have shown tremendous perseverance and hope from the beginning, even as the world failed them. Okay, this is. Again, I didn't go to college, but this is. You just have to, like, pay a little bit of attention to have the fundamental misunderstanding. The equation in the Middle east, whether it be what we did in Iran to displace the Shah again, Saddam Hussein or in Libya, is typically this. And there's almost not been an exception. The strongman falls because we want to spread democracy. The radical Islamic factions are more willing to use outforce, terror, brute force, intimidation. And they tend to be very, very charismatic. Like, very charismatic. And so they use Wahhabism or some sort of sister of that of extremely radical Islamic interpretation of theology to rally the masses, and you get something way worse than what you had before. And so I'll be honest, Joe Wilson, your tweet here is not going to age well. And you're a Republican again, I'm sure you vote for stuff I like, but acting as if with 100% guarantee, you can know what is coming next is going to be good. Not only is there no evidence of that, there's evidence to the contrary. And we go further into more and more of these social media postings of people calling for increasing military action. Remember, Trump won based on America first, not Syria first. I'm going to pull up Donald Trump's Truth Social here, which, by the way, he was in Europe when he authored this, and I bet a lot of people were in his ear trying to say, you know, we got to get more involved in Syria. We got to get more involved in Syria. We got to get more involved in Syria. Well, I'm going to read Donald Trump's Truth Social here. I got it. He was very busy this weekend. I'm going through this. A lot of, a lot of memes. Here it is. This is one of a couple. He says, Assad is gone. He has fled the country. His protector, Russia. Russia. Russia, led by Vladimir Putin, was not interested in protecting him any longer. There was no reason for Russia to be there in the first place. They all lost interest in Syria because of Ukraine. This is correct. Where close to 600,000 Russian soldiers lay wounded or dead in a war that should never have started. Now, let me just say Donald Trump mentioning how many Russians have died is, like, actually rather morally courageous in D.C. because everyone seems really afraid to say that both sides are losing human beings. Anyway, I found that to be noteworthy. Russia and Iran are in a weakened state right now, one because of Ukraine and a bad economy. And that is actually true. One of the reasons why Assad fell is because of how Russia, Iran and Syria's economy has fallen apart. Likewise, Zelensky and Ukraine would like to make a deal to stop this madness. They've ridiculously lost 400,000 soldiers and many civilians. That's a million people unnecessarily that have died. There should be an immediate ceasefire and negotiations should begin. Too many lives are being needlessly wasted, too many families destroyed. The world is waiting. He also posted previously, even beyond that, more forcefully, I'm trying to find it here, when he said, this is not our fight. And he's right, it's not our fight. And the president understands that you must prioritize the homeland Here, actually, here it is. Thank you. It's very, very long. But he said, look, let me kind of capture this. The United States should have nothing to do with it. This is not our fight. This is all caps. And when Donald Trump goes in, all caps. Listen carefully. Let it play out. Do not get involved. He says here opposition fighters in Syria made an unprecedented move outskirts because Russia's tied up in Ukraine. Obama didn't force the red line in the sand, but now, like possibly Assad himself being forced out. Do not get involved, everybody. That is a phenomenal sign for this incoming administration because you better believe there is clamoring neocons on Capitol Hill that want Donald Trump to say that we're going to have airstrikes and all sorts of military intervention. President Trump says no, this is not our fight. 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