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Charlie Kirk
Hey, everybody, it's Monday. We're on the front lines. Here's another speech we just gave. We're locked in. It's time to win. Let's do something about it. Empty your phone. Peer to peer text message. Everyone that you know, be loud. Post to social media. Post about your support of President Trump. Let's get this done. Thanks for supporting us@charliekirk.com support. Buckle up, everybody. Here we go. Charlie, what you've done is incredible here. Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.
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Rob McCoy
I want you to know we are
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Charlie Kirk
lucky to have Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.
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Rob McCoy
I want to thank Charlie. He's an incredible guy. His spirit, his love of this country. He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point usa.
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Charlie Kirk
We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives. And we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country. That's why we are here. This is the most important election of our lifetime. Our values, our security and our future are on the ballot. Every American deserves to have their voice heard and their vote counted. So visit YourVote2020.org to find your polling location. Get to the polls, cast your ballot, visit YourVote2020.org because your voice, your values, your vote have never been more important. Paid for by America First Policies, Inc.
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Rob McCoy
Charlie has been traveling all over the country. I caught up on the Charlie Kirk crazy train in Arizona, and it took me to Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, while Charlie went up to Wisconsin, Illinois, came back here. He did three services this morning, three
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Charlie Kirk
this morning and here. And then tomorrow we're going to Asheville, so pray for us. And then we're going, we're doing a couple hours of radio and then we're gonna head up to Grand Rapids for which should be the final rally tomorrow.
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Rob McCoy
Yeah, so he's 27, as Pastor said, and I'm 56, and it's just not fair. Charlie.
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Charlie Kirk
Well, Rob is also my pastor. And I met Rob a year and a half ago. I'm an evangelical, Bible believing Christian. And my whole life I was told that the politics that I was doing and that was my career, was inconsistent and incongruent with the gospel and Christianity. And then I met Rob, who was serving in office and was outwardly spoken politically. And I learned that there's a huge lie that's being taught in Christianity today that Christians shouldn't contest in the political arena. And that is, I think, anti biblical and against Everything that you know, we're supposed to call to do. In the Old Testament, there's many examples of people that we view as heroes that contested to influence secular government. Daniel, Joseph, Nehemiah, Jeremiah, Esther Mordecai. There's multiple examples of godly people trying to influence secular government for good. Jesus Christ said at Caesarea Philippi, he said on this rock build my ecclesia. We say we use the word church, but when William Tyndale actually translated the original Konya Greek from Greek into English, English was the peasants language. He went into this, what this word ekklesia actually means. And Rob was the first one to really mention it to me. And ecclesia is exactly what we're doing tonight. It was a political gathering of civic minded people that wanted the betterment of their own community. Now Jesus using that term, he didn't use synagogue or temple, he used ecclesia. So I believe that Jesus wanted comprehensive Christianity, not compartmentalized Christianity where we just wall ourselves off and not get into the culture and into every, every arena of our country or our nation.
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Rob McCoy
When, when I had shared with Charlie about this idea that we, you know, when Jesus said to Peter, who do men say that I am? And then he says, you're the Christ, the son of living God, he says, blessed are you Simon bar Jonah, for flesh and blood is not revealed that to you. And then he goes on to say, upon this, his testimony, I will build my. And again, as Charlie said, ecclesia. And the reality of it is he co opted a secular term. He didn't use a religious term like Charlie said. But here's the critical component. I've been in Calvary Chapel and they're big in California. Charlie says it's a. There's more Calvary chapels in California than Dunkin Donuts. And we've been there since 1968. But our founder, Chuck Smith was apolitical. He just wanted to preach the gospel. I've been hearing that for all my, my ministry life. Oh, I just preach the gospel, brother. Well, so do I. Yeah, but I don't do politics. And I asked pastors, I've spoken to 15,000 of them across the country. Why don't you do politics? Oh, politics is dirty. I go, so is the church. What's your point? And then he says, then they'll say to me, well, I'm tired of voting for the lesser two evils. I go, unless Jesus Christ is running for office, you'll always be voting for the lesser two evils again. What's your point? And what they don't understand is that this is exactly what we should be doing because Jesus commanded it. Upon this rock, this testimony, I will build the public square. Charlie, those two words, talk about the ecclesia. Because this is an awakening in America. We have abandoned it in the last 50 years and we're returning to it. Our founders understood it. Talk about it.
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Charlie Kirk
Yeah, an ecclesia as, as it was used in the New Testament. The New Testament was written in Greek, Jesus spoke Aramaic. And an ecclesia was gathering around two big words. Ella, Utheria and Isonomia. Those are Greek words for freedom and equality. I wonder what country was founded around the ideas of freedom and equality. So you understand that the Founding Fathers, 51 of 55 of the signers of the Declaration were Bible believing, regular church attending Christians. The first Great Awakening inspired the American Revolution and the formation of our country. 1787, Constitutional Convention, 1791, the ratification of the Bill of Rights. But our birth certificate, 1776, the Declaration of Independence. They knew exactly what ecclesia meant because that translation was just about 150 years old when Tyndale said, no, no, no, no. Church does not mean the church in Rome. It means the gathering of people that care about their community. A church does not mean the hierarchical church. I don't mean any, you know, slights towards our Catholic friends. My whole family's Catholic. I come from the Midwest, so I don't mean it, you know, in any sort of offensive way, but I don't.
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Rob McCoy
But he's Protestant, so don't throw anything at him.
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Charlie Kirk
But I just don't share that theology. So I don't want to be accused of, you know, going outside my lane and seeing anything that is offensive. But I just don't share that theology. And that really changed the way we view civilization and it created Western civilization. So these founders were inspired by what a Greek ekklesia was. The founders said what two amazing words to try to build a country around Isonomia and Eleutheria. Freedom and equality under the law. And no other country in the history of the planet was ever formed on the ideas of rights coming from God, not from government, on natural rights that had really rules for the road for our government and our leaders. Great example. The Constitution was written for people like your governor. That's why the Constitution was written, because when his tyrannical orders start coming down that we're shutting down gatherings of believers and small businesses, but keeping abortion clinics open and keeping weed dispensaries open or liquor stores open, that kind of Checks and balances. Exactly why the Constitution was written. Or in California. Rob McCoy, my pastor right here, under three separate hearings in front of a judge for just having the same type of gathering that you're having right now. California Department of Health, threatening with arrest. Why is it the founding Fathers put in these restrictions against government? Because they knew these times were coming. They knew that tyrannical leaders were eventually going to try to use governments to go after believers, go after Christians, go after people of faith. And we have to understand that the First Amendment, if you ask an average, public educated young person in our country, you ask them, where do rights come from? Like, well, it comes from D.C. it comes from politicians. It's so wrong and it's so immoral that we have done such a poor job of communicating our values to young people. Because you're starting to see America change. It's because we have not communicated our values well to young people. That's why. And students then come to me and they say, well, doesn't government give us our rights? No, not at all. Our rights are given to us, granted by God, and government is there first and foremost not to violate it, and at best to protect those rights. So, for example, in the midst of a pandemic, the First Amendment doesn't go away. Church all of a sudden doesn't become unessential just in the midst of a pandemic. In fact, church becomes more essential in the midst of crisis.
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Rob McCoy
So Charlie and I, our paths crossed. And it was interesting because it just seems like it's skyrocketed since this whole Covid thing. And just like many of you here in North Carolina and California, early on we didn't know the severity of the virus. And so we started to willingly yield to the governor's request to social distance and not have gatherings. And we did a couple of live streams. But then on Palm Sunday, April 4, it's a sacrament to us, and we participate in that sacrament the first Sunday of the month at the beginning of our Holy week, which is Palm Sunday, and the governor comes out and says, no, no, church is non essential. You can't gather. What if we follow CDC standards like all the other essential stores, abortion clinics and liquor stores and cannabis distributors? No, church is not essential. At the time that he gave that ruling, I was a sitting city councilman. I worked hard and I'd been reelected and I'm up for reelection in November. And I did well in my city. I was the mayor during. Well, I was mayor pro tem when 12 of our young people were shot In a dance hall, Country Western dance hall. Two of my congregants killed.
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Charlie Kirk
I buried them.
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Rob McCoy
And then I became mayor. We'd lost an officer, Officer Ron Helis, my friend. He'd been shot. We dedicated a freeway to him and a park to all the victims. And the community that wondered if a pastor should be in politics all of a sudden understood the value of that. And then after the shooting, our entire community was encircled by fire as the entire city began to burn. May or may not have seen it on the news. I love my city. I don't ever want any danger to come to my city. But when the governor said on his directive that the church is non essential. April 3rd is Saturday. I realized that word had gotten out because we were going to follow CDC standards. We were going to have communion regardless of what the governor was saying. I'm not going to allow the governor to say the church is not essential. It's not his role. You're not allowed to do that. You know, the church is the bride of Christ. You try to come to me and tell me that my wife of 30 years is non essential, you'll be picking up your teeth with your broken arm. So. So April 3rd, news got out. It went all the way over to England. I realized this is going to cause havoc for my colleagues on the council. So I resigned from that seat. I gave up a seat that I'd worked hard to obtain. And I was good at it. I love my community. April 4th, we hosted communion. And then when the governor embraced all the BLM Inc. Riots, Los Angeles, where 75% of the businesses that were burned and looted in Los Angeles were Jewish owned. And he praised them and they were shoulder to shoulder, no masks. And at that point we'd been doing nightly one hour live streams for all our shut ins, 65 and older folks who had comorbidities and concerns. We had no less than 12 doctors and two psychologists. And every night we'd go over the data. The death rate in our county of 750,000, 780,000 is 1/100th of 1%. And by the way, that's people who died with COVID not from. Of The Tragically over 100 victims in our county, only two have died from COVID The rest with. We had a fentanyl overdose young man. And when he died of a fentanyl overdose, he tested positive. That's a COVID death. That is wrong. And we know the data. And so after the riots I just said, you know what? Put some ionization machines in, some UV Lights, open the church. You can't worship with a mask and you can't have fellowship six feet apart. And so we went wide open on May 31st. We've been wide open ever since. Here we are, November. We haven't had one case of COVID not one. In California. They won't tolerate it if you step out of line. They're tyrannical. They understand the church and they don't want the church. And so they got a political and a predictable judge to put an emergency restraining order on us. And they tried to force the sheriff to come in and lock us up and arrest in the order, me and 1000 does, either visitors or congregants. And that was in August. And the judge said, on a scale of 1 to 10, as far as danger to the community, you're at 10. And I said, all right, I see how we're going to do this. And we opened the church, violated the restraining order. And the day that I went to the church when they said that they were going to give citations to a thousand of our congregants, I walked up to the church and this will blow your mind. The church was surrounded my congregations that drove three hours north. And they said to me, we came today so that we get the citation so you can worship in peace. That's the body of Christ. Well, I'll just share this last thing then. At this point, we know how this virus operates. And if you don't, you should do your homework. And if you're allowing them to mitigate the loss of your liberties and you willingly roll over and this is my struggle. The pastors are the defenders of the bride of Christ. It's time to open your churches. Now you can get upset with me and say, pastor, you're in violation of Romans 13. I know Romans 13. God appoints all positions of authority. We're to honor those positions of authority, obey those positions of authority. They're there for our good. Amen. I agree. And we both interpret the passage the same way, except the pastors don't know what I know because they haven't held office. And I have. When I was elected to that office, I put my hand and I wrote, raised my right hand and I swore to defend the constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. And in that constitution, I thought I better read it if I'm going to defend. Doesn't give us any rights. As Charlie said, it protects us from the infringement of the government upon our God given rights. And in the first three words of the preamble of the Constitution, the Authority in Romans 13 is listed. And it's real simple. We the people. And if they violate that constitution, it says in our Declaration of Independence, it's our right and our duty to push back, that the people need the church.
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Charlie Kirk
And there's. There's many examples throughout the Bible of the correct disobedience when God's will is. Is violated. For example, Daniel. Daniel, when King Darius came forth with a decree saying that anyone who follows the rabbinical laws and prays publicly will be put to death. So what does Daniel do? Not only does it say very clearly, I think it's Daniel 6, 11, that he heard the order, he understood the order, and then he prayed. Anyway, he went home and opened up the window towards the city so everyone could see, and he was going to say, hey, world, you're now going to look at me pray. Not only did he disobey it, he didn't do it privately, he did it publicly, and he did it proudly. And so where's the church right now? Embracing our inner Daniel? Or how about the story of Moses? How, I mean, if you're just supposed to follow every single order, just kill all the babies, right? The beginning of Exodus, any sort of disobedience throughout the Scriptures. There's plenty of examples that when God's law and God's will is violated, that the people of the church and of the kingdom are supposed to stand up for what is moral and what is right and what is good. We must do so prayerfully and faithfully. But we know exactly what this was all about. This was not a tough Romans 13 call. This wasn't like a close miss. This was. Hold on a second. Abortion clinics, weed stores, liquor shops, home improvement stores, BLM ink marches allowed, yet churches closed. Hold on a second. This seems to be the greatest attack on religious freedom in American history. And Christians should never put up with that.
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Rob McCoy
Part of. Part of the pushback with the governor. And the reason why we did what we did is rights are like muscles. If you don't exercise them, you lose them. Now, look, I know my fellow shepherds and many of them that I went to Israel with here in North Carolina. By the way, thank you for your prayers. It's sustained us and we've been so blessed by all the believers in North Carolina have been praying for us. Thank you. But I know this. I know shepherds are peacemakers. I know they don't like conflict. I get that. But peace isn't the absence of conflict. Jesus said, I didn't come to bring peace, but a Sword. Peace isn't the absence of conflict. Peace is the presence of Christ in the midst of the conflict. He's the prince of peace. And we're to confront bad ideology that enslaves our people. I'll lead into this with Charlie. 3 to 5 million Jews enslaved in Egypt. They cry out to God for deliverer. God sends Moses. Moses confronts Pharaoh. Let my people go. Pharaoh says, who is God? That I should obey him doubles the brick output and reduces the materials. And the people who were crying for freedom, you know what they did? They began to whine at Moses. Americans don't love liberty and we don't love freedom. We love someone to take care of us. But when it comes to paying a price for liberty, like standing up where you're going to be targeted, you blame everyone and you just give up and.
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Charlie Kirk
Yeah, see, no, it's been a. It's been a teaching moment for me. Three years ago, I would have. I would have thought something completely the opposite. And it's a fire alarm for our civilization. And it has nothing to do with what's going to happen or not happen. This Tuesday, we'll talk about the election. This is a very. This is a red alert for Western society. Human beings, I now believe, do not want to be free. We don't. We want security, significance and satisfaction. I have been stunned, let down, depressed at times at how we have allowed our freedoms to be run roughshod the last six months. We do not want to be free. We don't. In fact, I think it actually confirms exactly what the Bible tells us, that without a relationship with God through his son Jesus Christ, we don't even know what liberty and freedom is. We're just aimlessly going in the woods thinking we know what freedom and liberty is. Liberty is a value you have to teach young people. Freedom is a value. It's not in the bloodstream. It's not natural. We say, oh, yeah, home of the brave and land of the free and okay, then why all of a sudden are you allowing these governors with no science, no data, to shut down our schools? One out of four young people have contemplated suicide in the last 90 days. One out of four antidepressant medications up 600%. And two times as many young people have committed suicide than died of the virus. Yet they have school closures still in the three biggest school systems across the country. Almost all New York City schools are closed. Chicago schools completely closed. And the LA Unified School District almost completely closed. You want to know why? We're on pace to have 500,000 less children next year than this year. You want to know why all of a sudden, this is the most miserable generation in American history? And we can dive in. We can go into all those sorts of things because we did not actually teach what is necessary for freedom to exist. So it's very. It's just something that. What a great opportunity for the church to step up. And we have just swung and missed. And we said we don't want to play. Because, as Rob frequently says in the words of the stairwell at Harvard University and the law School, it says the law is the wise restraints that keep men free. What? That doesn't make any sense. Law, restraints, free. You're trying to tell me the more I restrain myself, I actually might be more free? How does that one work? It's the opposite of what we teach young people today. What we say is, your indulgence will make you free. What we tell young people is we say, just go pursue your dreams and your passions. What a bunch of nonsense. Your dreams and your passions. Who came up with this ridiculous idea? Go follow your heart. What? What do we do? Follow your heart. Oh. This is why you have young people that spend seven and a half hours on their smartphone every single day. 52% of them live at home with their parents. The average is 44, $45,000 in debt. They're borrowing money they don't have to study things that don't matter to find jobs that don't exist. And we're wondering why all of a sudden, they're the most miserable generation in American history. Because they followed their heart, which is
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Rob McCoy
deceitful above all else.
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Charlie Kirk
It's deceitful at best. How about you act with wisdom? There's a whole book dedicated to that. And we go back to that phrase, the laws, the wise restraints that keep men free. Instead of telling young people, go buy the next thing on Amazon. The thing will be delivered to you in five seconds or less. You can go to any website at any time. Just go pursue the next dopamine rush. Maybe we should tell young people, stop doing a couple things. You actually might be free. Maybe you should spend less time on that smartphone. Stop visiting that website. Don't do that substance. Maybe stop hanging out with those people. Stop gossiping. We live in a. We live in a time in American history where young people can have anything they want at any time. Yet there has never been a generation that has been so empty. Why? It's because if you do not have the law as basically the framework around all of this, what we call Liberty and freedom, which is really nothing more than the capacity to indulge. You'll be a slave to that device instantaneously. So I'll go back to what I said. Do human beings want to be free? Wow, I don't think so. I think we want security, significance and satisfaction. I think only through a relationship with Jesus Christ and understanding the full story, the full truth of the Bible, then we can actually understand what freedom really is. Not this cheap sound bite freedom that they talk about on television. Like, oh yeah, freedom is going out to a nightclub at 2am that's not freedom. Yeah, go do that. Go, go, go, go do that for a month and go, tell me how happy you are. You want to go see a miserable place. The most miserable places on the planet are in the research triangle at UNC Chapel Hill and Duke University. You can do whatever you want whenever you want to do it. In fact, they have seminars encouraging young people to be indulgent. They have, they have entire weeks celebrating hedonism. Most miserable places on the planet. Why? Well, it's because all of a sudden, and it's a, it's this old beautiful Hebrew phrase. And I was walking Stanford University and Dennis Prager had a very similar experience to me when I just saw nothing but rubbish at so many of these colleges. It was just such nonsense. I thought, of course there's no God here, so there's no wisdom. Of course there's, of course there's nothing here worthwhile of learning. And that's what it says in, in the scriptures. There's no, without God there is no wisdom. And so we've removed God completely from higher education and completely from communicating to young people. We wonder why we're in all these issues and all these troubles. And here's the final thing I'll say is this, you don't contest for your freedom. It'll be taken away almost instantaneously. And guess what? We've let it happen. I have been stunned at how not just pastors haven't opened. I thought I said this lockdown thing won't last 10 days. We, we knew within mid March that this thing was very contagious, very much a threat for a certain part of the population of which is a very small part of the population, predominantly people with pre existing underlying health conditions in nursing homes. But 95% of the population very much should have been allowed to open up by early April. The businesses, the suicides, all that stuff could have been prevented and avoided. I said I thought more of the American people. I did. I Said every church will open by Easter. And I was stunned how powerful fear really is. And it's a teaching moment, everyone, because I'm telling you right now, this was, this was just a dry run for what they want to do next.
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Rob McCoy
As I was sharing earlier with the Israelites, Moses confronts Pharaoh. He finally relents after the 10 plagues lets him go. They go through the Red Sea, and Pharaoh realizes he's losing his slave industry. So he pursues with the army. God drowns them. Miracle after miracle. Manna, water quail clothes don't wear out. And this is the interesting thing to me. Moses goes up on Mount Sinai. Now the church has abandoned the law. We're Ephesians, saved by grace through faith. It's a gift of God, not of works, as any man should boast. Amen. Well, Genesis 15. Abraham believed God. It was a credit to him as righteousness. Amen. So why, 430 years later to give the law? Moses goes up on Mount Sinai and God gives him a downloaded moral app. First five commandments, our relationship with the Lord. Second five commandments, relationship with each other. Aristotle said, the highest form of community is politics, because it requires morality and sociability. How do we get along? You say you don't do politics. You do politics every day in your family, in your business, in your church. And you need to do it in your community. You contend for morality. So when Moses comes down with these 10 commandments, the entire nation of Israel is in debauchery with a golden calf having a rave party. And the first thing he does is he starts to instruct the young people on the moral law. And then he places it in the center of the community. And here's the greatest miracle. For 40 years, these people lived together. 3 to 5 million people for 40 years, without a police force or a standing army because they had true freedom. Freedom in their relationship with God and freedom in their relationship with each other. You want the government to do it for you? All you're saying is, will you enslave me? Put some restraints in your own life and serve the Lord. That's what the church calls us to, and that's what we need to revisit. We're the ecclesia. And while we've been doing church, the secular progressive left has been in the ecclesiastical, indoctrinating our children and making our churches irrelevant. And that ends now.
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Charlie Kirk
And the the country will always be in its healthiest or its sickest position based on the church's involvement in politics. It's that simple. When the Church is involved in politics, good things happen. Slavery gets abolished, Civil Rights act gets passed, child labor laws, child labor laws, women's suffrage. When the church gets involved in politics, you get movements like Ronald Reagan that defeat Cold War communism, the greatest economic boom in American history, and a revival of the American dream. When churches disengage from politics, like in California, where they've aborted more children than the entire population of Canada, like in California, where churches have disengaged from politics, where in the midst of a pandemic, they have just passed SB145 into law. That is law. It's not just an idea. It decriminalizes pedophilia in the state of California. Remember, we went through all these conversations 10 years ago and we said, they're going to try to go for pedophilia next. And everyone said, no way. No way. No way already happened in California. And most churches were silent. In fact, I think every church, I think maybe five churches spoke out against it. We're now in California at state law that a judge can now tell a pedophile, you do not have to register in the sex registry database. Gavin Newsom, in the midst of a pandemic, businesses are absolutely going under. Wildfires like you've never seen before. Homeless on everything. What does Governor Gavin Newsom do? What does the pedophile lobby want? And this is going to spread all across the country. And so for the churches that say we don't get involved in politics, I have one very simple question. What's your line then? If your line is never, then resign as a pastor because you're a coward. You're like, oh, I'm never getting involved in politics. Really? You would have been. Your line is never. So let me just be clear. Your line is, I'm never going to get involved. So in 1930s Italy, when Benito Mussolini all of a sudden starts rounding people up to the death camps, your line is nothing. People say, that'll never happen here in America. Oh, really? We've aborted 61 million babies since the 1970s. You're trying to tell me it's never happened? It's happened in front of your eyes. The only problem is that it's a little bit it, you know, off to the side, and you don't have to witness it every single day. What's your line? Pastors that won't get involved, some of them say, once things get really bad, you wouldn't believe the answers I get. And some of these pastors say, charlie, you're just. You're you're getting too involved in this stuff. We as Christians are not supposed to contend in it with this. I'll tell you what, Christians don't contend in this civilization, it'll crumble quicker than you could possibly imagine. And I really believe this. God will judge us of whether or not we preserve the gifts he's given to us. So the parable, the talents can be interpreted many different ways. The parable of talents, some people make an economic application to it. I think that's correct. I don't think it's the perfect application. For those of you that don't know the parable of talents or need just a refresher, it's one of Jesus's actually most harsh teachings. At the end of the parable, the talents, he has some of his most directions, most clear condemnation of people that do not follow this teaching. It goes as follows. A master gives one of his workers a certain currency. Let's say, you know, $2. Just use equivalent. Two talents, two talents. Two talents, one person. There are different amounts. I'm sorry, two, three and four. The person that has two puts it under the rock and does nothing with it. The person that has three multiplies it slightly. The person that has four multiplies it greatly. Master comes back and greatly rewards and appreciates. What's the right word I'm looking for? He applauds the person that multiplies it greatly. Person has a little bit, says that. Person that does not multiply. What you're given gets absolutely repudiated. We're actually going to be held to a higher standard when we have to face our Creator. And they say, I gave you guys America. I didn't give you Belgium. Yeah, we laugh. I gave. I didn't give you Pakistan. God bless those people, by the way.
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Rob McCoy
Or Venezuela.
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Charlie Kirk
Or Venezuela. Like, we're at a higher standard here. What did you do when I gave you a gift of the most generous, benevolent, charitable country ever to exist? What did you do to a country that fought two world wars and ended the Holocaust, liberated people from totalitarian fascism? The parable to talents is a call to people that have been given a lot, and we've been given a lot as Americans. And so the question is, what are we doing with that? Are we multiplying it? Are we thinking of how do we make the nation stronger, better? As it says in Jeremiah, pray for the welfare of the nation that you're in contest for that first Timothy, it says, pray for the leaders and authorities that you might live quiet and peaceable lives. Most Christians can't tell you the five school board members that are actually shaping the curriculum, the local kids in public education, they don't know who their state reps are. They might know the governor and if you're lucky they'll know they're congressmen and they might get involved in the presidential race. So yeah, I think that we as Christians and as Americans, we're going to be held to a higher standard in our fast paced world. It's time to make reading a priority. At least it used to be. A new app called Thinker. You guys have heard me talk about it. Thinker.org Charlie T H I N K R has solved that problem by summarizing the key ideas from new and noteworthy fiction, giving you access to an entire library of great books in bite sized form. Read or listen to hundreds of titles in a matter of minutes, including old classics like Dale Carnegie's how to Win Friends and Influence People. If you want to challenge your preconceptions, expand your horizons and what Become a better thinker, go to thinker.org Charlie that's T H I N K R.org Charlie to start an extended free trial and put your mind in motion.
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Rob McCoy
One of the most critical years in American history, obviously. 1776 and as Washington was holding Dorchester Heights over Boston, the British when the snows would thaw, they would take over Dorchester Heights and the Continental army would would have to depart. Washington didn't have any artillery to hold up hold the hill. And a young guy by the name of Henry Knox comes to him and says I know where some artillery is. He says who are you? And he says I'm a bookseller in Boston. He was 20s and probably Charlie's age. So he takes the greatest engineering feat ever accomplished, brings it from Fort Ticonderoga, gets up on Dorchester Heights, they bomb. First victory they have over the British. Everyone's thrilled. They go into the summer and they sign what is the longest standing birth certificate in the history of the 6,000 years of recorded world history. For 244 years this is the oldest nation under one birth certificate. And they wrote these words, we hold these truths to be self evident. Or actually it says when in the course of human events becomes necessary. It wasn't for America, it was for all people, for all time. And they go on to talk about God four times in the Declaration of Independence, also pointing out from Isaiah that God is our king, our judge and our lawgiver, executive, legislative, judicial. They knew all this. And as they laid this out and they signed it at the End of it, they said, we pledge our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor. And then after they signed that Declaration of Independence, they lost battle after battle after battle after battle. Only one in nine Americans fought the Revolutionary War. They ended up freezing to death at Valley Forge. Half of Washington's army. And. And. And they had a smallpox outbreak, right? An epidemic. And the British were already immune to it. And Washington was told. Washington was told he'd lose 5% of his forces if he tried to inoculate his troops. They were already decimated. Most of them had dysentery, and their families would be affected. They willingly inoculated themselves, exposed themselves to the virus, not on behalf of liberty, but for the opportunity to simply fight for liberty. Not to protect it, but to fight to obtain it. And at that point, not only was half the army dying of dysentery, a third of them didn't even have boots. They had to wrap their feet in burlap sacks. And in less than nine days, the conscriptions would be up and this entire experiment in liberty would be over. And you wouldn't be here right now. Neither would I. And the ragtag of remaining continental forces. March 11 miles to Trenton, crossed the Delaware in freezing temperatures. And the only casualties that Washington had were the two men that froze to death on the. On the route. They surprised the Hessians on Christmas Day when everyone else was having a warm fire and opening presents. And they turned the tide of the war. And what inspired them? Interesting guy. Patrick Henry. Or no, I'm sorry. Thomas Paine. He's the one who said this. What's that? Common sense.
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Charlie Kirk
Right?
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Rob McCoy
These are the times that tribe men souls the summer soldier and the sunshine patriot when the season shrink from the duty of their country. But those who defend it now deserve the love and respect of all men and women. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered. And Washington was so moved by that, he put it out to all the troops and they secured the freedom you're now enjoying. Oh, and you guys look at me and go, you're such a hero. You've been fined $3,000 and you're standing against Newsom. What? My father had three tours of Vietnam. My godfather was given the Silver Star because he had survived Pearl Harbor. They sunk his ship, USS Cassin. My wife's grandfather sunk the Nagato. He's an ace. He had the Navy Cross. They worked hard. And here we are, we're rolling over and giving away what? 244 years of men and women who bled and died to secure these rights. And it's time we awaken to this gift of America, because those talents need to be multiplied.
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Charlie Kirk
So. I want to get to a couple questions, but before we do, people are saying, okay, I got it. I'm all in. What do I do? Well, if only there was an election right around the corner. I mean, my goodness, you're in one of the most important. What's up?
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Rob McCoy
We can do the phone thing.
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Charlie Kirk
Yeah. Right now you're in a state that very well could determine the future of the Republic. All you literally have to do is show up and fill in a couple bubbles. Like, wow, that's tough.
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Rob McCoy
Pledging your lives, your fortunes.
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Charlie Kirk
You got to show up for a less of a line that it takes to get a Starbucks coffee or Dunkin Donuts. Fill in a couple bubbles and everything has an R next to it, and then go home. Like, that's the toughest thing ever.
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Rob McCoy
And
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Charlie Kirk
look, we're running ourselves into a hole. I'm gonna be honest with you guys. I've done 120 speech in the last 90 days. I do two podcasts a day. I do two hours of radio day. I've had to raise $6 million to help support the president from the outside. We got 180 people on staff on our 501c3. We got 45 on our 501c4. We're going to 50. We've done 50 churches the last six months. We had to fight county, municipal, city ordinances, canceled events, college campus revolts, all of it. And then we have to go to. We had to go. We have to go to churches. Sometimes people say, I don't really like Trump's tone. I'm like, really? This is what I have to deal with now? Like, the country's burning. BLM Inc. Is like inches away from the White House. We have Gorsuch Kavanaugh, amy Coney Barrett, 300 circuit court judges, the embassies in Jerusalem. Golan Heights is recognized. Iran deal is canceled. We're building the southern border wall. We're finally taking child sex trafficking seriously. And I got to worry about this guy's tone. Like, this is what I have to hear at this point. And look, I'm the first one to admit being a Bible believing evangelical Christian. I think it can be puzzling at times for certain Christians when they say, how could a three times married, twice divorced man, how could he be worthy of my vote? Look, before we get out the moral measuring stick, okay, all of us fall short of the glory of Jesus Christ. That's number one. Number two, God's working in Donald Trump's life in ways that it's hard to even describe. He's prayed over every morning. He has Michael Pence, who has been loyally married, a faithful Christian. Many just is an awesome believer. More, more ministers, more pastors, more Christians have been invited to the Oval Office in this administration than any administration in recent history. And why did President Donald Trump, why was it him that was the first president ever to speak at the March for Life? George W. Bush, Christian, never spoke at the March for life. George H.W. bush, Christian, never spoke in the March for Life. Ronald Reagan never spoke at the March for Life. Why is it that the playboy from New York all of a sudden, the guy that talks, you know, in a unique way and has his own style, why him? Well, maybe it's because God whispered in the ear of a man for a time that quite honestly, we're in, we're in battle times right now. We're in times where all of a sudden, you know, the nice Christian Texan from Texas, George W. Bush, God bless him, he didn't move the embassy to Jerusalem. He told us he would. He didn't do it. He didn't want to offend people. He didn't give the Golan Heights back to Israel. Didn't want to offend people. President Donald Trump. Blessed are the peacemakers.
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Rob McCoy
Right?
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Charlie Kirk
He's bringing Israel, Sudan, Bahrain and UAE to the table. Historic peace, deep dlp, things that people couldn't even imagine imagined four years ago. Blessed are the peacemakers. First president, American history in my life, not American history in my lifetime. Not to start a new war instead of bringing our troops home from these endless misadventures overseas. Blessed are the peacemakers. And then I'll do this, and we'll do some questions.
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Rob McCoy
Well, let me, I'm gonna, yeah, we'll do the questions. I, I, I'd add this part because Charlie gets his question. Honestly, I get frustrated with two. Haven't heard as much as he has. But this idea. Look, I get it. You don't like Trump, okay? So what, he's not running for pastor in chief now, I'll say this, I'll say this. There's seven areas in sociology that move culture, arts, entertainment, business, politics, religion, education, and family. And, and if you don't like Trump and you say that, why would you vote for him? He's immoral. I would say to you, okay, we can, we cannot vote for him. But make sure that you take judges 14 out of the Bible. Just cut that out with some scissors and Then also take oh Hebrews 11 and cut that out. Because we can't put Samson in. Name one moral thing about Samson's life.
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Charlie Kirk
He.
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Rob McCoy
He was prophesied from the womb to deliver God's people. Only Jesus was the other one to do that. He was raised with a Nazarite vow. That's homeschooling. Wasn't allowed to touch alcohol. And the very first words recorded out of the mouth of this anointed one was go get that Philistine woman. I want her. He went off the reservation. And he goes off to pay a gambling debt. And the spirit of the Lord comes upon him. He's in a prostitute's bed all night. And the spirit of the Lord comes upon him not once but twice. Try teaching that in Sunday school. But why would God put him in the hall of faith? Judges 14. 4. What Samson's parents. Manoa and his wife. What Samson's parents didn't realize is God was seeking an occasion to move against the Philistines. He was willing to do what God's people weren't. He wasn't going to tolerate Satan occupying territory that belongs to God. And this is the last part. The things about Samson. He's got iconic hair. And his downfall is women. Sounds like the president. Wait. But Sampson was uniquely equipped. Uniquely equipped. And so is Trump Artist Entertainment. Number one television show in America. In the sociological realm to move culture. Let's look at media. His Twitter account. Over 80 million followers. He's a master at it. Trolling too. Politics took out 16 Republican candidates. The most heavily funded Democratic candidate in the history of the nation. Business. Trump. Trump Brand is world renowned. Family three times married, twice divorced. All of his kids love him and are successful in their own right. We can go down the list. Look. Last thing. 1865. Abraham Lincoln. Ford's Theater with his wife. April 14th. They're next to each other. The war is coming to a close. He leans into his wife and he says, when this is all over, I want to walk with you in the streets of Jerusalem. Footsteps of Jesus. Because he wanted to go to Jerusalem. John Wilkes Booth shoots him. One of his last words. He lived until April 15th. And he died. And the Great Emancipator. 2% of the nation's population died in this war. 7,000 men died in 20 minutes in the second battle of the Civil War. And he's a great emancipator. And the pulpits in America. He happened to die on April 15, which is good Friday. And the titles of the majority of the sermons in America was decrying the fact that Lincoln died in a theater on Good Friday. That's called virtue signaling. Stop it. It's about time you roll up your sleeves and participate. The guy's been facing 95% negative media. Every day he wakes up, he is a bodyguard for Western civilization and, oh, you don't like him? Okay, well, are you in favor of abortion? Has anyone done more for the black community, Hispanic community, women? And you just have to be prepared for that. You got to look at those things.
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Charlie Kirk
And there. And so this state matters a lot. And you guys know that you have an important Senate race, which is critical,
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Rob McCoy
and you need a new governor. Run force, run.
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Charlie Kirk
Seriously. And so we're getting down to the wire and people said, well, what can I do? What can I do? How many of you have gotten those obnoxious texts where it's like, please, Joe and Camel, I need your help. Or, you know, these surveys, all that stuff? What? And I do this at every speech and we do it on all of our radio programs and all this. What if every single person who says, I need to do more, I need to do more, there's something you can do. And it's one of the greatest untapped assets in the political atmosphere right now that no one's talking about. You take out your smartphone and you text every single person in your contact book a copy pasted message of why you're voting for Trump. Imagine an average American has 2,000 contacts in their phone. If you text every single one of them, it'd be the same as If Trump got $100 million of advertising on television. Now, some of you guys, like, I don't want to offend my friends. Then you're not willing to actually get them across the finish line because the people that you might, might not offend. You'd be surprised at how many people might just need that text from you right now in North Carolina. Do you know how lucky you guys are to live in North Carolina? I got people in California when I go to speak at Jack Kibbs Church. God bless that guy. We have 15,000 people that show up and they say, you know what I would give to live in a state where I can make a difference? And yeah, we're working for California. Rob might disagree. Trump's not going to win California this year. Okay?
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Rob McCoy
Love, hope, solitude.
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Charlie Kirk
Yeah, exactly. Not going to happen this year. But you guys are right here in the trenches where people are praying for you. You know that people are praying for you right now. You know that there's probably 50,000 people right now concurrently praying for you in California. I pray that people in North Carolina's eyes will be opened. You know, there are people in New York right now praying for you in Illinois in states where they're at vote because the electoral college doesn't matter more. So guess what parable of talents. You guys now have a higher expectation because you're in a state that's going to determine this whole thing. So I don't want to empty my phone because I'm going to offend some people.
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Rob McCoy
Okay? I. I've flown out from California the last three weeks in a row. It's a long flight from California to Carolina. I mean to North Carolina. I've done that last three weeks. Eight hour round trip. I got a family, five kids. I got a church to run. I got three grandkids. I'm tired. But this state's important and I live in California and I can see how important it is. In California. We have 15,280,000 evangelical Christians in the state of 30 million. Of those 15 million, half of them aren't even registered to vote. And of the half that are registered to vote, only half of those vote in a presidential election and 12% a non presidential election. That's pathetic. We need to step into the ecclesia with this understanding that the nation needs good government and good government only happens with good people and good ideas. So do it. Amen.
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Charlie Kirk
Let's do some questions. Yeah. What's the best way to do that? Just a couple hands up and scream them out. Yeah, Someone want to scream out a couple.
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Rob McCoy
Let's put some qualifiers on it.
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Charlie Kirk
No speeches.
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Rob McCoy
Yeah, we're not here to hear you talk and blobate about your manifesto. Just ask a question. Question ends on an up note with a question mark. And you, you know it's a question. If you don't know what a question is, it's not a statement, it's not a dot. Yeah, it's a question, not a monologue. Do we have a question? Yes.
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Charlie Kirk
I'm going to kind of reinforce what we talked about at dinner, so you're going to have to hear it twice. So there's a crisis happening with young people in this country and almost every political leader on both sides don't quite recognize it. We're playing with a potential revolution that could happen the next 18 to 24 months in our country. And conservatives usually view it purely ideological. Liberals view it purely material. I think it's a mixture of both. Let me explain it very quickly. Conservatives will say young people are about to revolt because we filled them with bad ideas since they were young and they have no appreciation for our country. That's absolutely right. Our college system is an absolute scam. There is no other way to put it. We need to start calling it that. When you, when you go $65,000 into debt to go study North African lesbian poetry, you got a problem and all of a sudden you go to the best places of learning. And I say we interview over 3,000 young people a year. By the way, I'm way too tired to like care about if I'm offending you right now. So I deeply apologize for that. So I mean that sincerely. You know, it's been a long month this week, okay? So I don't mean to offend you. And if it's coming across, apology in advance. So we interview 3,000 young people a year at Turning Point USA. My favorite question to ask a young person is, what's your skill? They say, well, I went to Wake Forest. I said, no, no, no, what's your skill? They said, I have a political science degree from Wake Forest. I said, I got that part. What can you do that a high school kid can't do? They said, well, I took all these classes, I said, I got that, but what's your skill? And they're like, I've never been asked that question. If you can't answer that question, if all of a sudden you after four years do not have a skill that a high schooler doesn't have, why are you borrowing all this money to go study all these classes to learn America is awful and learn that God doesn't exist. Why are you doing that? Because my parents are making me. They're misleading, they're misled and they're misleading you is what I should say. It's that simple. And it's more about parents egos than actually the future of their kids. Again, I don't mean any offense by this, but it's absolutely true. Most parents want their kids to go to college because they believe a lie that it's going to improve their economic well being. It's not true. 41% of kids that go to college will not graduate. 41%. Everyone in this room knows a kid that didn't graduate from college that went and dropped out. What happens? Their confidence is shattered, their direction is lost and they're endlessly in debt. They never should have went to college in the first place. Maybe community college. Maybe go get a skill. Go become a computer engineer, a plumber, a carpenter, H Vac, work with your hands. Police officer, firefighter, entrepreneur, or join the military. But maybe the four year university path wasn't for you. Out of Those that graduate, 44% of those that make it out of the university system, 44% 10 years after, 10 years after, are employed in jobs that don't require college degrees. So they have a bunch of debt, no skills filled with bad ideas, and all of a sudden they're working in jobs that don't actually require a college degree. So why they go in the first place? And it's because we have been fed this continuous narrative that you must go to college, succeed in this country. Okay, that's the ideological. I can build out the college piece a lot more. And I want to be very clear, I'm not anti college. If you want to be a doctor, if you want to go study engineering or if you want to get a skill in that job interview, if you can say, oh no, no, no, I'm going to become a lawyer, that's my skill. Awesome answer by the way. Or I went to college because I'm studying biochemistry and I can do things you can't do. The problem is 50 plus percent of all degrees are in the soft social sciences. Those are not skill based degrees. Okay? It's meandering ideological exploration in like Eastern meditative feminist studies. Okay, I can keep going with all these, by the way, North American migratory bird studies or Central American underwater basket weaving, whatever it is, right? Whatever is nonsense they're giving out at these universities. Okay, so then that's the ideological. But here's the part that we conservatives get wrong. Here's the part that we have to get more serious about is the material. This is where the left gets it right and they get the ideological wrong. I want anyone who's over the age of 40 to think back to your life when you're in your 20s, when you worked hard and you applied yourself, you probably saw your life get a little bit materially better each year. You maybe started to take out a mortgage, maybe a car loan. What was happening either consciously or subconsciously is you were building faith in the American way of life. And all of a sudden the harder you worked, the more you wanted the country to succeed, because with it you were succeeding. We have now sent young people with all that ideological philosophical nonsense, college, and then we send them to all the urban centers across the country. That's why you see these rural areas decaying slowly. What happens when you go live in Raleigh, you go live in Charlotte, you're renting, not owning your entire Paycheck goes to overly inflated groceries, tax bills, nightlife, whatever. And you're not saving any money, not building equity, and you're probably working a minimum wage job or a job that doesn't require college degree, which you're underpaid. What does that mean? After five years, 10 years, eventually you're going to say, is this system working for me? They're crippled with $75,000 in student loan debt. They're not seeing their life get materially any better. They're not building any equity or ownership. Don't be surprised when all of a sudden they want to burn down the world around them. So what's happening is a confluence of two things. Really bad ideas. And we didn't do our job on the ideological. And they're not seeing their life get materially better. And then what do conservatives say to young people all the time generally? This is true. Go get a job, Go work harder. Oh, I'm sorry. We shut down our country for the last nine months. What jobs are young people supposed to get right now? What internships are they supposed to pursue? And now the conservative response is go apply yourself. Where? And so what we've done is such a disservice to students. And I'm telling you right now, we're playing with a 75 million person revolution that will stun all of you in a way. And we are so lucky running up against Joe Biden. I'm telling you right now, if they ran like a more articulate, wiser, higher IQ version of Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, we would get blown out of the water. Because this transcends party lines. This transcends this. You go to a younger audience, this is something that conservatives get wrong. People say, oh, young people like Bernie Sanders because they want free stuff. No, they don't. It's wrong. They like Bernie Sanders because he represents freedom to them. Why? He's going to free me from my student loan debt. He's going to give me freedom from my debt. He's going to give me freedom from all these decisions I was told to make by my parents. That's who he represents. And conservatives like, oh, go work harder. I'm sorry, they were felled a narrative to go borrow $80,000 and they have no skills. Don't all of a sudden act as if they're in the same set of circumstances. I worked hard when I was in college. Okay, what was the price to go to UNC Chapel Hill in state back 30 years ago, inflation adjusted versus today? It's not even Close. So what do we do? Well, we first have to recognize the confluence of the ideological and the material. And also, my goodness, I'm telling you right now, we lose this election, you're going to have a Castro style revolution on your hands and Biden will be a sideshow. They'll go after everyone. And it'll work. It'll work with conservative kids, it'll work with Republican kids, it'll work with Christian kids. Because as soon as you start to see hyperinflation, which is imminent, you see growth go down, you see the wealthiest people continue to get, you know, their, their earnings higher, you're playing with it with something that is really going to be a tinderbox. So how do we fix it? You have to, you have to rebuild the American way of life. In America, we're on pace to have 500,000 less children next year than this year. 500,000. We're on the verge of a population collapse. We have more single 30 year olds than married 30 year olds. There are more young people that are 18 that are not dating than dating. The hyper feminization of America that has contributed this significantly, all these sorts of Factors. There are 54% of college graduates ages 24 to 30 are living at home with their parents. And if you're out there in the audience, that's one of the you, I don't blame you. I don't, I blame the shutdown. I blame the economic conditions. What we do wrong is we make fun of those young people. Every time I say that, people like, oh, you want to get out of your parents basement, they got nothing else they can do because you told them to go to college and get a meaningless piece of paper. Stop attacking them. Start working inwardly about this whole system that we designed for them that's screwed up. So what do we do about it? We have to completely change the way that we pour into young people in this country. It's very simple. We have to tell young people, go get married. We're going to make it easier to have lots of kids. We're going to give you opportunities. We're going to open up our economy fully. We're never going to shut down our country again based on half truths and, you know, nonsensical science. And we have to de urbanize our country very quickly. We got to get people to leave the urban areas, reclaim towns like Asheboro, like Boone, like these forgotten cities, and have young people take ownership of the once great cities in America. We don't do that. You're not going to like what's going to happen? Next.
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Rob McCoy
Question. Go ahead.
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Charlie Kirk
I mean, look, I think. I think every parent that can should homeschool their kids. I'm a big believer in homeschooling. I love homeschooling. You know, look, can anyone tell me, every school board member in this local area? Can one person tell me every single one. One person.
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Rob McCoy
Wow. Can you. Can you list the things that your school board deals with that would allow your community to live quiet and peaceful lives in all godliness and reverence?
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Charlie Kirk
So I don't want to hear anyone complain about education in Asheboro ever again.
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Rob McCoy
We're supposed to participate. We pray for kings and those in authority that we would live quiet and peaceful lives in all godliness and reverence.
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Charlie Kirk
People say, oh, I don't like what's happening in all this. Not one person. I'm not trying to make you guys that. But stop complaining about it. If you're not. If you don't even know the names, you're not contesting those races. You know that they're putting 16, 19 stuff into all your curriculum in the state, right? They're putting critical race theory, white fragility, white privilege. They're stuffing it in all the curriculum. And I get this question all the time, what do we do with education? I say, who? Yours? Name one school board member. Name two. Name three. I don't know. They have full jurisdiction over the curriculum, over teacher. You'd be amazed at how much power these school board members have. So that's the answer to that. And I'm going to be honest. I'm going to give you guys some tough love. We just talk a good game. We do not act a good game. As conservatives, I'm telling you, the teacher unions, the left wing forces, they're outspending us. They're doing this. And then we have to. I get questions. Does my vote even matter? I'm like, this is where we're at. Now I have to convince people to go fill in bubbles like that. That's the level of engagement that we have to bring people to.
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Rob McCoy
In California, in the last 10 years in political and politics, $300 million has been spent in political campaigns. 200 million by two entities. The CTA, California Teachers association, the SEIU, Service Employee International Union. It's gone to one party, and thus they dominate the executive, legislative, judicial branches of our government in California. And it's basically a nation state and run by one party. And we lead the nation in abortion, we lead the nation in poverty, we lead the nation in homelessness. We lead Just all the things you shouldn't lead in. We do. And 15 million evangelical Christians and the only entity left to turn the tide is the church. If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven and heal their land. But I don't do politics. Chuck Smith started Calvary Chapels in 1968. He didn't do politics either. We had 10,000% growth churches all over the place. Now, know this. With all those churches and everything we got, we now have the worst state. That's where Focus on the Family came from. That's where Bill Bright, you talk about every major Christian organization came out of California, and the state is decimated. We have the worst politicians on the face of the earth.
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Charlie Kirk
Next question. Any others?
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Rob McCoy
No questions. Everybody's tired.
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Charlie Kirk
Okay, Bueller, Bueller.
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Rob McCoy
Give us. Give us the one thing that we can do, one thing to turn the tide. Outside of boating, what's the one thing we could do?
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Charlie Kirk
Yeah, look, a couple things. Yeah, I'll give one or two. So can I give one, too? Yeah, go ahead. Look, you have to take the education of your children more seriously. I've been amazed at how many. I mean, we kind of have an instant poll result, I guess you could say. We get tens of thousands of emails through our podcast every single month. We had over 100 million downloads, praise God. We're the most downloaded Christian conservative podcast out there, and I encourage all of you guys to check it out. We talk about the gospel at least once a week, and we also talk about politics every single day. It saddens me how many parents reach out to me and they say, charlie, I raised my kid in the church. I taught them conservative values, and now they won't even talk to me because they're left wing liberal. All this, it is so widespread. And the best answer is, yeah, look, you didn't take it as seriously as you probably should have when they were growing up. And that's number one. And number two is act like what you do matters. And that's. That's a biblical principle. Act like what you do civically is actually going to be a reflection of the country you want to live in. I don't know if all the speeches and all the podcasts and all the radio shows and, you know, three hours a night and crisscrossing the country, never being in one place for more than five hours, I don't know what I have done and what Rob has done and what we have done. I don't know if it'll make any difference, we could get blown out on Tuesday. We could win by a huge BL margin. We could win by 300 votes. But the reason I'm doing it, and I'll never forget when Jordan Peterson, who's not a Christian, but he knows the Bible better than most Christians, looked at me in the eyes and he says, act like what you do really matters. I'll never forget that. And so then in June, Trump was down 19 points in the polls and things were awful. You remember that? It was just not a chance. And I thought to myself, am I going to be a spectator? Like I'm watching the Carolina Panthers on tv, or am I going to be a participant? And we met with our team and I said, we got to go raise $6 million. I'm going to speak everywhere at any time. The reason we're here tonight is literally we had a 12 hour window and I couldn't sit still. I couldn't, because I see this country crumbling in real time. And I said, maybe if I go speak at a couple churches in North Carolina, that might help make a ripple effect and might make a difference. Couple hundred votes, who knows, Maybe someone needs to hear it. They'll tell a friend, they'll post it on social media. Because I actually believe what I do matters. And so that's, I want to give you the confidence that what you do will eventually project out into the world and will come back to you. It really does matter. And if you don't believe in it, that if you say what I do, it doesn't matter if I vote, I'm just one person. I'm all this. That is the beginning of societal nihilism and the country will not survive a generation. Do you think the people that storm Normandy beach are like, I don't know if this actually is going to mean anything, me going this way? Of course not. Do you think that the people that were making the bullets and the munitions and the supply lines, they're like, I don't know if my one extra shift to make this aircraft carrier is going to make a difference. That's why they were the greatest generation. Every single person believed that their individual contribution will be a reflection of a moral good. And I'm just raising the fire alarm here. And I don't mean to be overly alarmist, but the number one question I get from Christians is, does my vote actually matter? And what do I. Does it actually move the dial, man? That is widespread nihilism. And then the other thing you guys got to do is Learn, I think, and this is the one thing of hope I have to say. I think we're on the verge of a great awakening. But it's different than people might think. It's because I see people getting deeper and more serious about the issues that are coming to our time. Our podcasts that are most listened to are the ones that are two hours plus. I see Christians and pastors waking up and diving deeper into what is supply and demand? What are the laws of nature? Who is John Locke? What did Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, Aquinas, Augustine, Bentham, Hume, Mill? What did they all think and why did they think that? Who are the influences on Western society? Is it biblical to support blm, Inc. I'm getting more questions than ever from curious Christians, and here's why. When the crisis happens, the best thing you can do is pause and learn exactly what is happening around you. That's a good sign. I encourage everyone out here to become a subject matter expert in all of these things. Takes time. We do two hours of research, minimum a day. You got to read books, you got to go deep, you got to watch lectures, you got to listen to that stuff. And the more you learn, that is a sign of a revival and an awakening.
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Rob McCoy
Amen. I in 2013, I took a trip with Governor Rick Perry to Israel. I was a teaching pastor, and he was thinking of running for president, and he brought some Texas big boys and we went. And there was a state senator from California named Shannon Grove. And I had been in politics walking precincts with my mother. My family wasn't Christian. I knew what it was like to walk a precinct. My mother was president of the Republican Women, and I met Ronald Reagan when I was little and I was into politics. My dad ran for city council, and I always assumed he had three tours of Vietnam. I just assumed that's what you did. And then I got into the church. I'm like, they don't do that. And I was Calvary Chapel and other Calvary chapels would do it. And Shannon Grove were in Israel, and I'm teaching at these sites and these guys have heard me teach. And she turns to me and she says, you need to run for office. I go, what office? She says, state assembly. I said, I don't know. My elbow for my earlobe on state politics. She said, it's the lower house. I'll teach everything you need to know. And I ran, I prayed about it. My wife and I fasted and prayed, and the Lord gave us a peace. And the verse he gave me was Job, yea, Though he slay me, yet will I praise him. I was hoping for a better verse. I won the primary. I lost the general election because Christians didn't show up. And I lost by a few, just a few votes, and I was exhausted. But I want to tell you a story because I went on to win city council and get reelected and I just kept pushing. I didn't know politics, but I got a quick education point where Charlie and I meet, we travel the country and I can contend with the best of them. But this is a story that moved me and I pray it does the same for you. The primary for the state assembly race. Not only was I being attacked by the opposing party as being attacked by my own party, I was the only Republican remaining. And they put another person up there because they said they didn't want a Christian. And in there, my party spent a million dollars against me. I had been a Republican longer than I'd been a Christian, longer than I've been a father, longer than I've been a husband, not in that order. And they're carpet bombing me with a million dollars. They're attacking my school, our preschool, they're attacking the church, they're sending me death threats. They keyed my car. It's fun. Thing is you go out to your windshield and say, good luck starting your car. That's fun. And I stepped into the middle of that and now I'm out of money and I don't even want to go to my mailbox. And I'm named Robert McCoy after a man named Robert Broussard Early. He's my godfather. My mother had died of cancer. My dad was in a home with Alzheimer's. Navy captain, three tours of Vietnam, and my father's commanding officer, Rear Admiral Robert Broussard early was my godfather. So I went to go visit him because he was going to turn 100 years old. He happened to be the oldest living survivor of the attack on Pearl Harbor. He was Lieutenant on the USS Cass on December 7, 1941. Two. Yeah, it's late. And I knew I'd miss his hundred birthday. And I didn't want to open my mailbox anymore. So I drove down, I sat down in his house and he was still driving at 99 years of age, not well, but he was driving. He still did a hundred sit ups a day through the course of the day. He said movement was life. He was bigger than life. He lived in the same house all 50 years I'd known him. He looks at me, he says, how's it going? I said, Uncle Bob, I'm getting carpet bombed by my own party. I feel like I've led all these folks on a rosy road to nowhere. I'm getting picked on by the church, I'm getting death threats, they're attacking the school, they're attacking our church, they keyed my car and I'm going through the whole thing. And while I'm, I'm lamenting, he puts his hand up and shaking with age at 99 he puts it up and I'd never heard him angry in 50 years. I'm whining, I'm lamenting, he puts his hand up and he goes, stop it. Paralyze me. Nothing like getting spanked by 99 year old man. He said, rob, listen to me, you don't know tough. I was 16 years old in the Great Depression. We didn't know where our next meal was going to come from. Had it not been an appointment to the Naval Academy, I would have never received a college degree. And you Rob, being a history major, you didn't realize that we had the 17th to 20th smallest military on the face of the earth because we were in isolationist mode. And I was in Pearl harbor on December 7th when the Japanese bombed and they sunk my ship and the harbor was on fire and I pulled my shipmates out and they were dead. He said the next day we took on a two fronted war against two fascist nations. We brought them both to their knees, set up constitutional republics in both countries and we did that by lifting that same fleet from the bottom of the Pacific Ocean. And I was on an opposite ship when we went into Tokyo harbor to accept the surrender of the Japanese. And we were, we were not occupiers, we were liberators. We only asked for enough ground to bury our dead and came home, cut federal spending, started the greatest industrial revolution in our lifetime. He looks at me and goes, now quit your whining and go finish what you started. Where is that generation? This is worth fighting for. You want inspiration? Is that not enough? Let's go do it. Let's take that talent and multiply it.
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Charlie Kirk
So I'll end with this uplifting note. No, I mean that this race could be won. Believe it or not, I, I see the data last night at 7pm Something that can only be explained in prayer. And I've been, I, I, Rob will tell you I, I monitor this stuff every 30 minutes. We have a multi million dollar operation going through it. Not like the campaign, but it's pretty good. And something Last night at 7pm Just broke where we were monitoring Midwest polling for the president and Independence just shifted like eight points in a day. And what we are seeing in real time, it will only happen if we turn out. We contact our friends and do this is a late break that we couldn't have prayed for. We only could have prayed for, that we couldn't have dreamt for. North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Arizona are basically the three states that are the most important for the president's victory. They are using a lot of the public polls to tell you that he can't win. It's nonsense apps. I'm telling you right now, right here, that if everyone shows up on Tuesday in record numbers, we win North Carolina by four or five points. Thom Tillis gets reelected and you have a new governor. It's that simple. Whatever numbers they're throwing at you, public polling, all this, throw all that into the shredder. What's so amazing is, and I'm sure a lot of you are convicted after tonight, there's time on the clock. The founders gave us elections for a reason, so that we can reclaim our government and prevent bad movements from coming into power. President Donald Trump can win this thing and it's in your hands to do it. I hope you do. Thank you guys. Thanks so much for listening, everybody. You guys can always email us. Freedom charliekirk.com freedom@charliekirk.com please consider supporting us@charliekirk.Com support. God bless. This is the most important election of our lifetime. Our values, our security and our future are on the ballot. Every American deserves to have their voice heard and their vote counted. So visit YourVote2020.org to find your polling location. Get to the polls, cast your ballot, visit YourVote2020.org because your voice, your values, your vote have never been more important. Paid for by America First Policies, Inc.