Stopping the Californication of America with Congressman Mike Garcia

Summary

Podcast Summary: "Stopping the Californication of America"

The Charlie Kirk Show
Guest: Congressman Mike Garcia
Date: February 1, 2021

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Overview

On this episode, Charlie Kirk sits down with Congressman Mike Garcia of California’s 25th District to discuss how California has devolved from a “gem of the country” into a warning for America. They delve into Garcia’s razor-thin electoral victories, the grassroots activism that propelled him, California’s policy failures, and the broader stakes for the Republican Party in the House of Representatives. The episode centers on preventing the "Californication" of America: stopping national adoption of California-style policies and regaining conservative momentum at both state and national levels.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Congressman Mike Garcia’s Political Journey and Close Races

• Military and Business Background: Garcia discusses how he grew up in Southern California, attended the Naval Academy, became a fighter pilot, and later had a successful business career.

  “I dreamed of becoming a fighter pilot… I had the opportunity to go to the Naval Academy and become a fighter pilot for the US Navy… went on to serve in combat operations over Iraq in 2003…” — Mike Garcia (03:07)

• Decision to Enter Politics: Spurred by disappointment in the 2018 election results, especially Katie Hill’s win in CA-25, and concern about California policies affecting the nation.

  "As a private citizen, as a businessman... I saw that election and just realized... I needed to do something. I needed to come off the sidelines. For me, it was making sure our nation didn't become what California has become." — Mike Garcia (04:25)

• Narrow 2020 Victory: Garcia highlights the intensity and unpredictability of both his special and general elections, particularly winning the November election by just 333 votes after initially trailing.

  “On election night, we were down 15%. And over the course of 30 days... we ended up up 333 votes… We made it rain longer than anyone could tread water around us.” — Mike Garcia (06:34 - 06:54)

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2. California as a “Warning” to the Nation

• Decline of California: Both Kirk and Garcia lament California’s fall from economic and cultural powerhouse to a state plagued by high taxes, homelessness, infrastructure problems, and out-migration.

  "You cannot get a U-Haul going east." — Charlie Kirk (08:06)
  “In the suburbs of LA, it’s starting to look like a suburb of Venezuela right now in many cases.” — Mike Garcia (09:04)

• Single-Party Control: Garcia attributes these issues to decades of disengagement by conservatives, creating a one-party state with little fiscal or social discipline.

  “You end up with a single party system... being run by people who don't understand business… and we end up with a state like ours...” — Mike Garcia (08:28)

• National Stakes: The discussion pivots to national politics, with Garcia warning about President Biden using California as “the blueprint”:

  “What scares the heck out of me is when a new president like Biden comes in and says, I’m going to use California as the blueprint for my policies… it's a recipe for disaster for our country.” — Mike Garcia (09:49)

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3. The Recall of Governor Gavin Newsom

• Recall Momentum: Both speakers express support for the recall and believe it has heightened Newsom’s responsiveness.

  “He’s one of these guys where you’ve got to hit him with a stick before he starts paying attention. And this recall is the proverbial stick over the head.” — Mike Garcia (11:56)

• Strategic Importance: Garcia urges the California GOP to prepare for both the recall and the 2022 gubernatorial race.

  “We really have to position ourselves better for 2022 and make sure that he can't win if that doesn't happen.” — Mike Garcia (12:49)

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4. Taking Back the House and Republican Strategy

• House Demographics: The slim Democratic majority is seen as vulnerable, with Pelosi’s reduced margin empowering the progressive wing.

  "Pelosi is now beholden to AOC, and AOC is effectively the Speaker of the House right now." — Mike Garcia (13:31)

• Energizing the GOP: Both discuss the energy of the incoming Republican freshman class as a counterweight to high-profile progressives.

  “A high energy class with a lot of personality. And frankly, it's what our party needs right now.” — Mike Garcia (14:42)

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5. Grassroots Activism & Blueprint for Future Wins

• Grassroots Formula: Garcia credits his win to robust volunteer efforts, not establishment or big donors, noting the importance of community mobilization.

  “We won because of our grassroots campaign. We were named Campaign of the Year… That was because of our 500 volunteers on the ground…” — Mike Garcia (17:06)

• Direct Engagement: He encourages listeners to engage with campaigns directly, either volunteering or donating to local races.

  “I would encourage folks to actually get involved and help the campaigns directly. If you can't help with your time, then donate as well.” — Mike Garcia (17:36)

• Aggressive, Not Complacent: Garcia calls for Republican aggression in messaging and campaigning, refusing to play by “Queensbury rules” against more brazen Democratic opposition, but without sacrificing morals.

  "The only allegiance I had was to the flag and the Constitution... we have to be willing to get a little dirty to do it." — Mike Garcia (14:53 - 15:22)

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6. Looking Toward 2022 and Beyond

• Reasons for Republican Optimism: Shifts in House seats, retirements, and voter sentiment are seen as positive trends for Republicans.

  “As doom and gloom as the last couple of months has seemed... there’s a lot of reasons for hope, and there’s a lot of trends right now that are favorable to the Republican Party.” — Mike Garcia (18:16)

• Targeted Races: Special focus on flipping back key California and Texas seats.

  “We can win back five out of five in Orange County.” — Charlie Kirk (19:06)

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Memorable Quotes & Notable Moments

• “We made it so that our opponents wanted the election to be over.” — Mike Garcia (06:54)
• “In the suburbs of LA, it’s starting to look like a suburb of Venezuela right now.” — Mike Garcia (09:04)
• “Pelosi is now beholden to AOC, and AOC is effectively the speaker of the House right now, running the agenda.” — Mike Garcia (13:31)
• “The only allegiance I had was to the flag and the Constitution.” — Mike Garcia (14:53)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 02:20 – Introduction to Garcia’s electoral wins and background
• 03:07 – Garcia recounts his journey from Navy pilot to politician
• 06:34 – Breakdown of Garcia’s close election and grassroots mobilization
• 08:20 – California’s downward trajectory and warning for the nation
• 11:53 – Updates and opinion on the Newsom recall
• 13:07 – The need for Republicans to retake the House
• 14:37 – The new, energized GOP freshman and sophomore classes
• 15:58 – Advice for winning in 2022: focus on successes and failures
• 17:06 – The critical role of grassroots volunteers
• 18:16 – Reasons for optimism and specific Congressional races
• 19:06 – Discussing flipping Orange County seats and candidate quality

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Call to Action

• To support Congressman Mike Garcia:
  electmikegarcia.com for volunteering, newsletters, or donations.
• Get involved with Turning Point USA:
  tpusa.com

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This episode offers a clear-eyed, urgent call for conservative activism to prevent what the hosts see as California’s policy failures from spreading nationwide—framing 2022 as a pivotal moment for both California and the country.

Transcript

[Charlie Kirk]

Hey, everybody. On this episode of the Charlie Kirk show, an exclusive conversation with Congressman Mike Garcia from California, who won his race by 333 votes. A good American who is fighting to take back the House and is representing us wonderfully. We talk about California and so much more. Email us your questions freedomarliekirk.com and if you'd like to support this program, go to charliekirk.com support Congressman Mike Garcia is here. Buckle up, everybody. Here we go. Charlie, what you've done is incredible here. Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.

[Congressman Mike Garcia]

I want you to know we are

[Charlie Kirk]

lucky to have Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.

I want to thank Charlie. He's an incredible guy.

[Congressman Mike Garcia]

His spirit, his love of this country.

[Charlie Kirk]

He's done an amazing job building one

[Congressman Mike Garcia]

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[Charlie Kirk]

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Hey, everybody. Welcome to this special episode of the Charlie Kirk Show. I'm super thrilled to have with us today Congressman Mike Garcia, who I think is the only Congressman, who can say? He won two hotly contested races in the year of the pandemic.

[Congressman Mike Garcia]

I think that's true.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah.

[Congressman Mike Garcia]

And we were the first to have to go through the special election during COVID and it's been a wild ride. So thanks for having me, Charlie.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, congratulations. I have been celebrating your victory many times. The first victory you won rather convincingly to fill Katie Hill's seat. The second victory was like 361 votes.

[Congressman Mike Garcia]

333 votes total.

[Charlie Kirk]

333. So you just get that number framed in your office.

[Congressman Mike Garcia]

Exactly. We had pens made, army knives made with 333.

[Charlie Kirk]

It's awesome. And so tell us about that race, but also tell us why you got into politics. And I'm super interested in that.

[Congressman Mike Garcia]

Yeah. So, you know, I grew up in Southern California, and I didn't grow up with an interest in politics. I was observing politics. I was a poli sci major. But I dreamed of becoming a fighter pilot. And I had the opportunity to go to the Naval Academy and become a fighter pilot for the US Navy, flying F18s off of aircraft carriers and went on to serve in combat operations over Iraq in 2003. And that was my goal. That was my dream in life. That was what I focused on, and it was my mission. I came off of active duty in 09 and rotated into the business sector, working for an aerospace company at the time, and had a great career, great job, great family, wife, beautiful boys, and was really living the dream life. And I started to see things happen in California that were obviously discouraging, but also became friction points for myself personally, as a businessman, as an investor, someone who's wanting to stay in California, became harder and harder. And then along came Katie Hill, and she ran for office in our district, California's 25th district, which had been historically conservative for 20, 30 years. You know, Buck McKeon was in the seat for roughly 22 years, Steve Knight for four years. And then this phenomenon in this wave called Katie Hill came to town. And she won an election that I just couldn't believe. And as a private citizen, as a businessman, someone with no aspirations of getting into politics, I saw that election. And I just realized the day after she won her election that I needed to do something. I needed to come off the sidelines. We all needed to pay attention a little bit more. And for me, it was making sure that our nation didn't become what California has become.

[Charlie Kirk]

Seriously.

[Congressman Mike Garcia]

And as broken as California is and as bad as it is, it can be a lot worse. If our nation started adopting some of those policies. So when we upload someone like Katie Hill to the national scene and put her in Congress to represent us, and now with AOC and the gang, that was just a bridge too far for me. So I decided to quit my job, run for Congress, and never held a political office in my life. And we just outworked everyone and we worked harder than anyone out there.

[Charlie Kirk]

So she resigned because of whatever.

[Congressman Mike Garcia]

She had some unforced errors.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, there you go. That's a good way to put it. And then you won the special election,

which really kind of shocked the world

a little bit, especially the margin during the virus. And you served really short term and ran again. And so 333 votes. Kind of walk us through how you were able to win.

This is one.

This was a top 10 race across the country.

[Congressman Mike Garcia]

It was.

[Charlie Kirk]

Pelosi was spending a lot of money on this race. She wanted it back. And you won by 333 votes, which is one of the reasons why the margins for Pelosi for her speakership are so thin.

[Congressman Mike Garcia]

That's right.

[Charlie Kirk]

And I actually think the Cook Political Report had your seat as like a lean Democrat, if not at best, toss up.

[Congressman Mike Garcia]

Right. They changed three times in the course of four months. It started with likely Dem, then it went to lean Dem, and then to toss up. And we won by nine points. And it's like, hey, guys, we saw this coming. We knew the sentiment on the ground. I don't get in any fights that I don't think I can win. And I knew we would be able to beat Katie Hill with her resignation and everything that lined up with the special election. That's how we ended up with a nine point win. That margin of victory was even bigger than I had imagined. But we knew going into November with the presidential race on the ticket and the passion and the energy on both sides coming out in November, that it was going to tighten up. And on election night, we were down 15%. And over the course of 30 days, while they had the counters counting for literally 30 days, we ended up up 333 votes. And it was just. It was literally hard work. We had the best grassroots campaign in the Nation. We had 500 volunteers who. These weren't necessarily political activists. These were. These were folks in the community who were just tired of the. Of the nonsense and got behind the mission. And we just made it rain longer than anyone could tread water around us. And we made it so that our opponents wanted the election to be over. I held them accountable in Debates, Extremely aggressive in debates. Did it with class, did it with dignity and honor and respect. But it was, it was a ruthless aggression towards our opponents. And that is why we won. And hopefully it'll be a little easier in the 2022.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. I know a lot of activists that got involved for the first time in your race. Some of them go to Rob McCoy's church in Calvary Chapel, Thousand Oaks, and they were involved knocking on doors, making phone calls, and all of that helped make a difference, obviously in your margin. So you talk about not letting the rest of the country become California. California. I love visiting for the scenery, the weather, some of the people, not all the people, not all the people like me. And that's fine. But it really is a test case of how to mess up a once great state. You probably remember when California was the gem of the country, where it was a place of opportunity. You cannot get a U Haul going east.

[Congressman Mike Garcia]

Nope.

[Charlie Kirk]

And that's not a metaphor or a joke.

[Congressman Mike Garcia]

There's a mass exodus right now, right? Yeah.

[Charlie Kirk]

If you're in Phoenix, they will pay you to bring U Haul back to la. They'll give you a U Haul gift card.

[Congressman Mike Garcia]

That's right.

[Charlie Kirk]

Talk about how California went wrong.

[Congressman Mike Garcia]

Well, it starts with people not paying attention. Right. It starts with good conservatives like us not paying attention, not only not being active in the current political scene, but not raising our kids to appreciate what's in the Constitution, to appreciate what conservative values mean in the real world. And when we fall asleep at the wheel like that for 20, 30 years, what happens is you end up with a single party system in one of the largest states, with one of the largest GDPs in the world being run by people who don't understand business, they don't understand fiscal conservative policy, social conservative values. And we end up with a state like ours where despite being the fifth largest GDP in the world, as a state, we have the highest taxes, the highest homeless rates, some of the worst infrastructure. We have a community. We have a bunch of communities that are now bashing our own law enforcement. We have neighborhoods in my district right now where when the winds get above 30 miles an hour, the power turns off. And in many of those neighborhoods, the water turns off as well because they're on electrical wells. Right. So in the suburbs of la, it's starting to look like a suburb of Venezuela right now in many cases. And it is a testimony of how bad things can go. And what scares the heck out of me is when a new president like Biden comes in and says, I'M going to use California as the blueprint for my policies. And obviously with Kamala there right next to him, she knows exactly what that means and Pelosi in the house knows exactly what that means and it's a recipe for disaster for our country. So my mission right now is to help save California. We will get more seats back. I hope we can get the governor's seat back. The recall we need to get Newsom out of there. So if you haven't already signed the petition in California for recall, Newsom, but we'll get more seats back. But my bigger mission right now is literally to make sure that the United States does not become what California has become.

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It's a tragedy what's happened in California. I know so many good people that have left. I know so many people that don't want to leave. The quality of life is nice still. They built their businesses, they have their family there, but the numbers just don't make sense. And they are starting to see the quality of life slip, starting to see a lot more homelessness, you know, increases in crime, just a different set of agenda. And California used to be a deep red state, as you well know and it's changed dramatically throughout the years. And so Gavin Newsom is trying is being recalled right now. It looks like the signatures are trending.

[Congressman Mike Garcia]

I think they'll get there. Yeah, it's looking it's looking favorable for me. The whole point of supporting the recall was just to get him to allow our businesses to get turned back totally. He's one of these guys where you've got to hit him with a stick before he starts paying attention. And this recall is the proverbial stick over the head right now. And he's realizing it is real and he may be recalled. And amazingly, now he's allowing our restaurants to open.

[Charlie Kirk]

He scoffed that at first. He did, and he didn't realize how much anger there actually was. And I mean, California has a history of recalling governors not successful, but at least going through the recall, it's very, very hard to do, but it's going to put him through a tough fight, I think. And he's up again in 2022, is that right? So he might have to survive a recall and run for resurrection.

[Congressman Mike Garcia]

Right. And that's what I'm trying to make sure that our. Our Republican Party in California needs to focus on, on both races. We need to focus on being successful in 2022. The recall efforts need to continue in earnest, and we need to get behind that. But we really have to position ourselves better for 2022 and make sure that he can't win if that doesn't happen.

[Charlie Kirk]

So I think priority number one has to be taking back the House of Representatives. You totally agree? Obviously, being in the minority is no fun. Only by seven seats, but it feels like it might as well be 70 seats.

[Congressman Mike Garcia]

Right. The way this House is playing right now. Yeah. Pelosi is, you know, in reality, with such a close ratio and close to equilibrium, a rational speaker would actually make more compromises and we would actually get to a rational legislative agenda. That's just not happening right now. And in some ways, that's good for us. The left will overplay their hands.

[Charlie Kirk]

Totally.

[Congressman Mike Garcia]

Pelosi is now beholden to aoc, and AOC is effectively the speaker of the House right now, running the agenda.

[Charlie Kirk]

And the country.

[Congressman Mike Garcia]

And the country. So I think the average American is going to look at this and go, hey, we're done with this. This doesn't make any sense. And I was one of the few that actually thought we were going to get the House back. In this last cycle, McCarthy and I were probably the only two that actually thought it was doable. So I wasn't surprised by how many seats we got back. What I was surprised of, frankly, is that we didn't get the House back. And we will get it in 2022, no doubt, if not before that.

[Charlie Kirk]

And there were A couple races. You know, Sean Parnell, you know that I think he might run again and they might have had some good. And we got to get back that Highland Park, Texas seat right near North Dallas. We got to get that one back. But there were some huge victories. Michelle Steele. Yong Kim, Beth Van Dyne, Marionette Miller Meeks by six votes. Madison Cawthorn, Maria. Elvira Salazar. Burgess Owens, Nancy. Yeah, Talk about this new freshman class I still consider to be part of it because it's still the same calendar year. Yeah, but you're obviously, you're not a freshman. Technically.

[Congressman Mike Garcia]

Yeah, I'm kind of in a no man's land.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, exactly. You're kind of a special election, which is great.

[Congressman Mike Garcia]

I love the sophomore class. And this is high energy, so.

[Charlie Kirk]

But it's. It's a high energy class.

[Congressman Mike Garcia]

A high energy class with a lot of personality. And frankly, it's what our party needs right now. Right. I think our party needs an offset to the AOCs and the. And the Omars of the world. And that's what some of these.

[Charlie Kirk]

I totally agree.

[Congressman Mike Garcia]

And we've got to be able to fight fire with fire. And you know, I'm not a dye in the wool kind of Republican guy. Right. I didn't grow up with this allegiance to any political party. The only allegiance I had was to the flag and the Constitution. So I don't ascribe to this theory that we have to play by Queensbury rules. When your opposition is playing MMA style rules against you, you have to play in that. In that arena with.

[Charlie Kirk]

That's right.

[Congressman Mike Garcia]

And we've got to be able to roll up our sleeves, be a little more aggressive than perhaps the. The establishment GOP wants to be. And we've got to win. That doesn't. That doesn't mean we compromise our integrity or our moral values, but we've got to be aggressive and we've got to be willing to get a little dirty to do it.

[Charlie Kirk]

So what do you think the blueprint is to win in 2022. And let me tell you, some people are getting a little apathetic. Oh, you know, my vote doesn't matter and all this, but let's go. Your race is really interesting. You won by 333 votes and you were down 15%. And so it shows you could still win. And so what's the blueprint to victory? We're only 16 months out until voting's gonna start.

[Congressman Mike Garcia]

Yeah. We have to highlight every success that we have, and we have to put a shiny, bright light on every failure that the left is bringing to the table. And really what you are doing and Turning Point USA does is helps us breed the next generation so that they understand that what they've been told about conservative values is a fallacy. And here's what the reality of conservative values does. Here's why it's good for the nation. We can't survive as a nation unless we start paying attention to things like national security, partnerships with Israel, investing in our military and our law enforcement. So we need to not only educate folks, but put a bright light on our opposition and go, this is why this is bad for our nation. And just have a battle rhythm and a cadence that they can't keep up with.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. And it seems as if the Democrats controlling everything, they are more concerned about resurrecting the bad feelings of the last election, continuing on these bitter narratives. And so for folks out there that want to get engaged and get involved, what's your piece of advice for them specifically of how to do that?

[Congressman Mike Garcia]

Well, I'd say support the local races and support the congressional races, for sure. You know, reach out to the local campaigns. We won because of our grassroots campaign. We were, we were named Campaign of the Year.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, that's right. The Washington Post, I think even. Go figure.

[Congressman Mike Garcia]

That was a. But that wasn't because necessarily of our, of our professional team. That was because of our 500 volunteers on the ground. And, and, and while it may feel uncomfortable at first, what we figured out was people were enjoying it there, were going out, they became part of the movement. They took pride in it. So I would, I would encourage folks to actually get involved and help the campaigns directly. If you can't help with your time, then donate as well. And the left spends money. Pelosi spent $15 million against me in the last race.

[Charlie Kirk]

15 million.

[Congressman Mike Garcia]

So, yeah, it's a real problem. And in California, it's not cheap. So we got to keep, we got to keep the race.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, it's a, it's an expensive media market, no doubt. And, but taking back the House has got to be, you know, mission number one.

[Congressman Mike Garcia]

Absolutely.

[Charlie Kirk]

And Senate, whatever will happen, will happen there. It's a little bit tougher, but the House is really good. I. Can you talk about how these new maps, we're adding seats in some Republican states. We have the energy. They look like they're going to have some retirements. It feels like 2018 for them and it feels like 2010 for us.

[Congressman Mike Garcia]

Correct. So lot of reasons to have hope. And I think you said this in one of your talks at the churches down in SoCal last a couple of weeks ago. As doom and gloom as the last couple of months has seemed to have presented us, there's a lot of reasons for hope, and there's a lot of trends right now that are favorable to the Republican Party. California will lose a seat. It will likely be a Dem seat that gets cut. So that. That is, again, a harbinger of how things are trending right. The shift from left to right is happening, and we have so much momentum right now. If we just stay together as a party, if we stay on message, if we. If we stay positive, but still be aggressive against our opposition, we will get these seats back. And I think, you know, folks like me going to other districts to help some of these challengers win seats back is critical, and I'm committed.

[Charlie Kirk]

We can win back a couple of the Orange county seats, too.

[Congressman Mike Garcia]

Absolutely.

[Charlie Kirk]

We can win back all of them. I think we can win back five out of five in Orange County.

[Congressman Mike Garcia]

A lot of these folks are fakers. A lot of the incumbents, Dems are fakers. Right. People like Katie Porter, fake model. They don't understand what they're doing. These Dems have no idea of what it means to run a business or what it means to even run a family in California. And so we just got to pull the veil back a little bit and highlight the fact that they are, in fact, fakers.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, I want to thank you for what you're doing for our country and holding the line every single day in D.C. i know it's not always easy, but, you know, the. The more that we see Republicans stand up and fight, you know, makes a difference.

[Congressman Mike Garcia]

It's. It's. It's definitely not easy. It's a sacrifice across the board, but it's honestly the biggest honor that someone like me can have. And I'm. I'm glad I'm there to represent the 25th district of California and hopefully make a difference for the nation.

[Charlie Kirk]

Here's my prediction. You're gonna win by more than 333 votes in 2020.

[Congressman Mike Garcia]

I hope so. I don't have enough hair left to

[Charlie Kirk]

go through whatever map they end up, right? Yeah, that's right, Congressman. Thank you. How can people support your campaign if they want to?

[Congressman Mike Garcia]

Yeah. If you go to elect mike garcia.com you can sign up as a volunteer, you can sign up for our newsletters, and you can donate through the website as well.

[Charlie Kirk]

Awesome.

[Congressman Mike Garcia]

Thank you, Charlie. Appreciate you having. Thank you.

[Charlie Kirk]

Thanks so much for listening, everybody. If you'd like to get involved with Turning Point USA. Go to tpusa.com if you'd like to email us your questions, do so@freedom charliekirk.com thanks so much for listening everybody. God bless. Speak to you soon.