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The American People Deserve the Truth — Charlie and PBD on The Unusual Suspects Live at AmFest
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Charlie Kirk
Hey, everybody. My conversation with Patrick Bet David, live from America Fest. We had a great dialogue back and forth on the PBD Unusual Suspects show. So check it out, as always. Email us freedomarliekirk.com get involved at Turning Point USA today@tpusa.com that is tpusa.com Buckle up, everybody. Here we go.
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Patrick Bet David
Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
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Charlie Kirk
Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.
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Elon Musk
I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
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Unknown Speaker 1
Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.
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Unknown Speaker 2
I want to thank Charlie. He's an incredible guy. His spirit, his love of this country. He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point usa.
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Charlie Kirk
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Patrick Bet David
Welcome to the show.
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Unknown Speaker 1
PD PBD to pick up where you left off. I want to give you credit. You predicted this, the puppet master, President.
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Patrick Bet David
Elon, two months ago.
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Unknown Speaker 1
Yeah, we talked about this on the podcast yesterday. Your thoughts on what's going on with Elon, Trump, Charlie, everything you predicted, this sort of alignment. What are your thoughts?
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Elon Musk
So I think what Charlie said is. Is very important because I'm not. I'm not with Elon and Trump. If anybody knows that, it's him. It's the people that are on the inside. And if they say it's good, that's all that matters. That relationship, it's stronger than stay so strong and tight. They're gonna play games. You know, in. In anything you do in life, the moment you win at the highest level, the enemy doesn't like it. What comes next is flattery. And here's how flattery comes. Flattery comes in and says, hey, jd, just so you know, Trump would have never won without you.
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Patrick Bet David
Oh, man.
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Elon Musk
Okay. Everybody knows, we all talk about it. That when people say things like that, or hey, Bobby, just so you know, he wouldn't have won without you, you're the real reason why he won. The divisive nature is out there.
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Charlie Kirk
This is so correct.
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Elon Musk
This is not going away anytime soon. So imagine My relationship with Charlie, right? I've had a great relationship with Charlie. Charlie and I have a good relationship together. Somebody calls me and tells me things about me to pump me up over Charlie or go to Charlie. We play two different games. We both are fighting the same cause. But the fact that we stay united, there is nothing more intimidating to the enemy than a party or a team or a family or a company that stays united. Do you know how scary that is? And by the way, you can't even laugh when they compliment you. You can't even say, hey, you know, it's really about you. I had a list of top 10 people that helped Trump win the election. I have them in the top five. And I've said this everywhere. What he did with TikTok, that strategy, the way he broke it down, I think everybody here watching this should go in here. The way he broke down what they did. TikTok, you go to the enemy and then you find a way to create content there. How many young people watched and had their ideas changed? How many people sat there and said, you know, I never thought about this before. Look what's going on here? Returning Point usa. How many people came here because they saw the content that he posted on TikTok? To me, the more united they stay, the more afraid the enemy is going to be. And that's very important.
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Charlie Kirk
Pbd, you are spot on. So if you think of, you look at just CIA playbook, psychological operations, the top five things. How do you destabilize the government? How do you try to fracture a power center? They're going to try to run this play. The first thing they have to do is they have to try to create daylight and schism amongst this power alliance of Elon Musk and Donald Trump. It is play number one, because think about it, that is too much. It's too much power. It is too ascendant, right? You got, you got $400 billion, you got Twitter, you got X, you got SpaceX, you got boring company Neuralink. I mean, and the world's wealthiest and that's most popular man besides Trump. So they have to try to create a schism there. So if I was the Democrats, I would go all in on any means necessary of stories, leaks, you know, oh, Donald Trump is mad at Elon Musk is mad at. And it's all bs. I can just tell you this. I, I've seen it with my own eyes. I know all the people involved, you know, got to know Elon, he's amazing. Obviously know the President very Well, that there is no daylight between the two and they are in harmony and lockstep to continue to fulfill this mandate and the agenda. But you guys have to know this, the Democrats, that is their initial play and it's a very smart play because all of a sudden if you can start to divide, then you can start to pick apart the administration, turn people against each other. Because if Elon remains in lockstep, if Elon remains in harmony with our movement, we're Talking about an 8, 12, 16, 20 year reign, the likes of which we could have never dreamed before. Because Elon represents the thing the Democrats thought they had. They thought they had full oligarch control, that every oligarch was behind the Democrats. They thought they had Bezos, they thought they had Zuckerberg. Now they're obviously defecting away because of recent political events. The Democrat Party is now saying there is, if this is sustained, they see the writing on the wall. And the earlier they could try to divide the two and create this fake fissure, this schism, the quicker they think they can get back to. Can I tell you why you guys, very smart people.
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Unknown Speaker 1
You guys are absolutely right. Did you see what Elon Musk tweeted today?
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Charlie Kirk
No.
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Unknown Speaker 1
He said the following. This is exactly their goal. Elon Musk, political and legacy media puppets all got their new instructions yesterday and are now parroting the same message to drive a wedge between the real Donald Trump and me. They will fail. Signed Elon Musk.
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Charlie Kirk
And here's, here's. What's so great is that they were too transparent and too naked with their psychological operation that it's now backfiring, that now this play will then be flushed out as you guys are obviously trying to divide us, let's grow closer together. And that, that. So they overplayed their hand. And also we are now at a higher state of a heightened state of awareness because we understand the media lies that were constantly being opt that. Now the fact that he tweeted that means that they're all going to grow closer together. He's going to double and triple and quadruple down. And I can't say that a decade ago, I don't know if that tweet would have been sent, would have been like, oh, I don't know about this. I'm cautious of you now when the op is being run. It was so obvious. Every Democrat got their marching orders, tried to do this. In fact, they were creating images with grok that, you know, Elon was actually president or the king and all bunch of bs. But now the fact that they identified it, spotted it, shows that the Musk Trump duo is only going to continue.
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Unknown Speaker 1
That's awesome.
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Patrick Bet David
So, Charlie, out of. Besides Doge, which I mean, Elon and Vivek, that says, like, I'm excited.
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Unknown Speaker 1
Like government officials.
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Patrick Bet David
Yeah. Like, it's almost like a Super bowl is coming. We can't wait. Who was your. Who was your favorite appointment that that is coming in? That's going to be. Who do you have?
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Charlie Kirk
I mean, Bobby Kennedy at the FBI.
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Patrick Bet David
That's my favorite.
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Charlie Kirk
And Tulsi Gabbard at dni.
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Patrick Bet David
Oh, and.
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Charlie Kirk
And Cash Patel especially. I'm telling you, this guy getting in charge of America's secret police, is that alone. If Trump just does that and just golf for the next four years is a game changer when it comes to lawfare, the investigations.
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Patrick Bet David
Yeah.
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Charlie Kirk
Now, Bobby Kennedy, understand this. It's not the Department of Defense. It's not Medicare. The thing we spend the most money on in this country is Health and Human Services. $1.6 trillion a year is the HHS budget. That is Donald Trump giving a middle finger to Pfizer, AstraZeneca Moderna, Johnson and Johnson, the Goliath drug companies that have done so much damage to this country, and then Tulsi Gabbard. I'm a big believer that a nation that keeps. Keeps secrets unnecessarily from its people cannot survive. That a government that keeps secrets from its people is an illegitimate government. The DNI is the keeper of America's secrets. Josie Gabbard must be confirmed as DNI director. We deserve, as the American people, the truth of what happened on July 13th when Donald Trump got shot.
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Patrick Bet David
Yep.
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Charlie Kirk
The truth of what happened on January 6 and the pipe bombs and who planted them on the RNC and the dnc. And most importantly, the truth of the JFK assassination. We deserve those files to be declassified immediately. And Tulsi Gabbard will deliver on.
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Patrick Bet David
I agree. Oh, that's so freaking. I think. And my mind, Charlie, being Cash Patel, I think because you, you, I think you tweeted this, Charlie, and I was following it along. We talked about on the PBD podcast a while ago that just, just the FBI, Christopher Ray, is stepping down in January. Obviously, they're, they're, to me, they're the most politically biased from all the way from Russia collusion.
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Charlie Kirk
Dangerous. They could just raid your house for.
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Patrick Bet David
No reason whenever the hell they want. Yeah. Who, who are the. Who are the ones who are the main. Peter Struck and Lisa Page, that whole Andy McCabe that whole freaking crew.
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Charlie Kirk
That's right.
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Patrick Bet David
So, Charlie, George, Floyd, the coroner. We just found out that the coroner changed the autopsy notes after a visit from the FBI. Let's all let that sink in.
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Charlie Kirk
No, this is legit.
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Patrick Bet David
Scared, like, think about that. Change the notes. Why? You know, I mean, because they wanted to make sure it wasn't because of the drugs, the fentanyl that he had in him, that it was. When this come out a couple days ago, it just came up.
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Charlie Kirk
Changed the Hennepin county original medical autopsy. Would you remember? They say he did not die of strangulation.
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Patrick Bet David
No, he did die of that. It wasn't the drugs.
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Charlie Kirk
Yeah, that's correct.
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Patrick Bet David
So it was.
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Unknown Speaker 1
They. They came out, they lied.
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Patrick Bet David
Well. Oh, that's the FBI. So that's number one. So are you saying it was the coroner? The coroner. Well, the FBI visited it.
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Charlie Kirk
Well, remember the original coroner report was completely different than what was submitted as evidence in Chauvin's.
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Patrick Bet David
Yeah, yeah. And he's actually. And he's requesting samples from his blood and his heart and all that stuff. And then Charlie. So. So that's coming down to January 6th, which we talked about, which I believe. You know, I would not even believe. We found out not only were there undercover agents inside the crowd, there was 26 humans, what they called confidential. Confidential human sources. Which are spies. These aren't appointed. These are people that were caught. They were snitches. They got caught, and now they have to work for them. Like, how. How deep do you think that went? Because if that's the truth, then they were the ones provoking it. They're the ones that made January six happen.
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Unknown Speaker 1
Well, this is why DNI is so important.
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Charlie Kirk
Exactly. And DNI is the keeper of America's secrets. In fact, the way that DNI was chartered, it didn't exist before 9, 11. It was supposed to be the superseding authority. Above CIA, above DHS, above, you know, above five eyes. DNA is the central nervous system of all the intel networks, and Tulsi Gabbard can fix that. So as far as January six goes, all that's important, I think the. The key that we have to focus on because you can't focus on everything, is one question. Who planted the pipe bombs? Yes, the pipe bombs are everything. Remember, they were planted at both the RNC and the dnc. We know everybody that was at the Capitol. We know grandmas that were praying in the Capitol rotunda. We know people that were waving US Constitutional flags. Wait a second. There were pipe bombs at the place where the vice President Kamala Harris, the soon to be Vice president, was visiting. She visited the dnc. And we don't know who planted those pipe bombs. Those are the heaviest charges that have yet to be filed because we all know who planted the pipe.
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Patrick Bet David
Obviously.
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Charlie Kirk
We know that it was probably almost assuredly a government contractor, an FBI agent that planted these pipe bombs at both and who, by the way, who plants them both at the rnc. And.
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Patrick Bet David
Yeah, that doesn't make any sense.
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Charlie Kirk
Well, it only makes sense is if January 6th did not. If the Capitol storming did not work and they needed to create some sort of a narrative that Donald Trump's people were creating terror that day. There is so much wrong with what happened with the pipe bombs. We do not have an arrest. We don't have a suspect. Who was it. We find that out, we can get down to the fundamental core that our government, like so many other things, was actively involved, not just covering it up, but involved in the practice and the execution of the events on January 6th.
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Patrick Bet David
Yeah, okay. And probably going back to, you were talking about all these people coming in and flipping the table upside down. I mean, we're talking about going after big pharma, we're talking about going after big food. Charlie, these are big time dangerous ass people. Like, this is. This is no joke, okay? We know what these people are about. How fearful are you? And how fearful should Donald Trump be? We still don't know who this Thomas Crooks. Like we found out who Luigi Mangioni was in six hours. We know his life, the letters he wrote, his ex girlfriends. He might be gay. We still don't know. Thomas Crooks had six cell phones. We don't know nothing about that guy. How fearful should Donald Trump be? Still, there's less than. How many days, pat? Less than 29, 29 days. How fearful should he be? And even if he's in, Charlie, they're still in there. The deep state is not going anywhere.
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Charlie Kirk
I mean, look, I pray for his safety every single day. And we should all pray for his safety. I think he's only alive thanks to the grace of God. And they try to kill him again. They try to kill him again. And look, I mean, I don't want to say how fearful he is because Donald Trump is not an afraid man. He has every reason not to leave Mar a Lago next 29 days, but he's coming here on Sunday because he's not an afraid man to come address all of you. And so the best way I can answer the question, though, is Donald Trump's strategy seems to be I'm not going to pick one fight. I'm going to pick every single fight. And we're going to lose some and win some and we're going to flood the zone and we're going to do things that the deep state don't like. And we have to understand, like when you storm a beach, you're not. Everyone's going to make it right. But eventually some people are going to pierce through and you're going to do some remarkable things. I mean, think about it. It's not just Bobby Kennedy, it's tough Tulsi Gabbard, it's Cash Patel, it's Pam Bondi. And then once we do, once we're in it, it's Russ Vote at omb. I mean, we with Stephen Miller doing the immigration stuff, the media will not be able to keep up with all of this. And that is the brilliance of the strategy. The traditional Republican playbook is like pick one or two controversial things and focus on it. No, no. We're in a brave new world, guys. We are in a new era completely. We are going to do 15 simultaneously game changing things with people that have a dedicated scope of work. And you are not going to be able to cover it. You're not going to be able to stop it. We are going to flood the zone because we are the media. We are the media. And if we get half of it, America will be a fundamentally better place because of it. By the way. That's why we worked as hard as we worked at Turning Point Action. That's why you guys worked as hard as you worked, because we wanted a revolutionary change in our government, not just neat reorganizing around the edges.
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Unknown Speaker 1
Charlie, amazing answer right there, by the way. I want to focus this question on young men. You see that guy right there? That young man right there? Little Tico right there. Patrick Bet David. Give a round of applause for this.
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Patrick Bet David
Young man, my boy Patrick's son.
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Unknown Speaker 1
Young men, what you're doing on universities, what you're talking about, you didn't go to college. I love when you just dismantle people when you're saying, yeah, I didn't get a college. I didn't get a degree. I read. I learned by the way. Same with pbd Advice for young men.
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Charlie Kirk
Did you not go to college? No, we have that in common.
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Elon Musk
Yeah.
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Charlie Kirk
Zero, I love this shout out to.
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Patrick Bet David
The I don't know how to read. I don't know how to read.
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Unknown Speaker 1
Pico, you're going to go to college.
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Patrick Bet David
He taught me how to read. His son taught me how to read.
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Charlie Kirk
I want to get yours.
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Unknown Speaker 1
Adam, what's your point? Thank you, Tom. I want to get your advice and also P's advice to young men like that that are about to grow up. They're 12, they're 13, they're 16, they're 18. You got college kids everywhere. Best advice for them. We all know college has been a scam.
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Charlie Kirk
What should young. I think number one is that if you have drive and you have hustle, it is the irreplaceable ingredient in business and in life. People say, charlie, how do you do all this? I mean, look, yeah, intelligence I guess is part of it, but you have to want it more than the person that you are up against. And that is putting in more hours and dedicating yourself to it. There is no replacement to having this kind of this all encompassing drive of your body and your being. Be a voracious learner and read as much as you can and learn as much as you can as early as possible. Find people who are really good at what you do. Study them intimately, read everything about them, absorb them, become like them and ask them good questions. And then also the more that you understand the forsaking of immediate pleasure is a necessary ingredient to long term success. Delayed gratification built Western civilization. So that means as young men, save yourself sexually for marriage. That means don't do drugs, don't drink alcohol. I know this might not be the most popular message, but if you want to be successful and operate at a high frequency, PBD will attest to this. That like the most successful people are not the people. You know, hanging out at 1am with the bars is the people that are going to bed at the right time and waking up at 5 or 6am Turning Point USA was not built, you know, at a hookah lounge. It just wasn't right.
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Patrick Bet David
I see where he went there. You went Middle Eastern. I get it.
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Charlie Kirk
Right, Good, good analogy.
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Unknown Speaker 1
There's exceptions to every rule.
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Charlie Kirk
Fair enough.
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Unknown Speaker 1
Some people take different approach.
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Charlie Kirk
I will say this though, that if you want to be excellent, excellent, then be excellent at things that deeply matter. And pbd. I'm sure you agree with what I'm saying.
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Elon Musk
Oh, listen, you know, for me, you know, the way we start companies is by producing something that doesn't exist, like PBD podcast. We created it because we wanted a show like that, that guys are just sitting around talking and just regular people. Right? We wanted a show like that. Manect. We wanted something like that. You have no idea how glad I am that you started Turning Point usa. Thank you. Do you know how. Let me tell you guys why I'm glad. I got four kids, right? And my 12 year old is here. Tico. They're going to be coming every year. I mean, it's going to be something where they're going to be coming every year. You know, with their scheduling permitting, they're going to come out and you typically do it at a time that we're leaving town. So he forces me back from vacation with the wife and then I got to come go back to them right after this. But I'll do it for Charlie because I think this is such an important organization. Thank you. Community matters. Community matters. This may be right now the biggest conservative gang in the world for the youth called Turning Point usa. And this gang is built on the right values, principles, pride in their country, respect for their God, the different things that this country has given them. There is nothing like knowing that something like this exists. And I'm so. I have so much respect for you. The fact that you keep growing it. Your drive and fire. Your drive and fire is so important. I have nothing to say. His answer was so flawless. But the community will matter as well. So I'm glad you're doing this. Thank you.
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Charlie Kirk
Thanks so much for listening, everybody. Email us. As always, freedom. Charliekirk.com thanks so much for listening and God bless.
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Unknown Speaker 2
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