B (5:23)

So you're. So just to kind of put a finer point on this, this. You came on the show last time, Jay, and you said, the dog that didn't bark in that defense motion which led to all of those crazy headlines was the fact that the defense did not reference the caliber of the round in question. And you said, correct. That to me is a dead tell that this was a.30 caliber round, which was everybody on all the naysayers are saying that this couldn't have been a.30 06. You're saying this report clearly says that was a.30 caliber round, which is what a.30 06 would be.100%.

C (6:06)

And I would also say that the dog that didn't bite. What we've seen become public is that the defense and the state had motions in December and January all referencing the.30 caliber class round that was taken at autopsy. And it references the September round of 2025 ATF report where it talks about all of the evidence that I just mentioned to include and especially the.30 caliber round. So we recur. I mean, look, saying result of comparison was inconclusive1. The other thing they didn't say was that in that same paragraph, quote could not be identified or excluded from the.30 06. They left that out too, and let the media sow the doubt that they so desperately need. But once we see the report and experts testify about the report, there really is no doubt that was the weapon that killed, that was fired to kill Charlie Kirk Blake.

D (7:05)

So it is interesting to me that we got this because we got a defense motion back in December, and I guess it's a long motion, but if you've had a chance to look at it, the defense seems to be making requests about their right to examine that, like be it present while they're examining the bullet or something like that. Have you gotten a chance to read that? Can you describe what they're looking for in this motion?

C (7:31)

Yeah. So think about this in terms of any evidence, right? So when we test evidence, we lose evidence, whether it's DNA, whether it's fingerprints, or in this case, we're talking about virtual comparison microscopy where you actually are taking. Remember you have a bullet that has been mushroomed. Right. And fragmented. They want to pull that mushroom back up so they can look underneath it to see if they can see striations that would match the barreling on that. 36. Well, it's possible that when they pull it up, it snaps, breaks, and the evidence, then there's less of it at that point. And that is their objection to it. My personal opinion, we don't need to do the VCM testing at this point. I mean, there's just no doubt that that was the weapon that fired the round that killed Charlie Kirk. Now if you, I mean you can go happy to glad all day in evidence, but that's essentially what that motion was about. They also mentioned that they thought that there would be exculpatory evidence that they could come up with. I'm trying to find it. I don't know what it would be. You know, there's not an expert in the world that is credible that would testify that this wasn't a, a 30 caliber class round. Because all you do is measure the diameter of what is a, a very intact diameter of the base of that round that was found at Charlie. Right. So that's easy. It's not a.22 caliber class. That came from a.223 or a M16, for instance, a 22 rifle. And so it was a.30 caliber class. 30 aught 6. DNA all over it. There's just too many straight lines that lead to Tyler Robinson. And we haven't even started talking about all the admissions that he has made in writing to friends and to his lover, Twigs.

B (9:18)

Jay, your level of expertise on this stuff and the ATF reports specifically are so important right now. So I'm just going to read a few lines from this Fox article that came out and they're now reporting on this. So they said that the firearms, alcohol, tobacco, firearms, explosives that could not conclusively match a bullet fragment to the suspected murder weapon, but confirmed a match with the spent casing. Okay, so, so okay, the bullet gets destroyed. It makes sense that, you know, it's so badly damaged that, you know, there might be limitations on what you can do with that, those fragments, but they can confirm it's a 30 cal and they can confirm a match with the spent casing. In your opinion, your legal opinion, trying cases like this, how important is the spent casing? Because a lot's been made about the jacket of the bullet, the lead or whatever. How important is that casing?

C (10:14)

Well, both of those pieces of evidence are devastating to Tyler Robinson. When the ATF is the best, is the absolute best in the world at Firemark and tool mark expert reports. Firearms and tool mark expert reports. And what they look for as it relates to the round is the caliber class of the round and, and the striations, the rifling characteristics that may or may not exist on that round at the time that it's recovered, they don't exist as of yet. Unless they can do the virtual comparison microscopy, they don't exist yet on that round. So, okay, so we know the class of the bullet well, what about the shell casing? Do we have it? Yes, we do. Okay. Well, when that weapon fires that round, it impacts with the shell casing and it creates tool marks on that, on the base of that shell casing that was matched to this rifle. So we know that that shell casing, the bullet that was in it was fired by that rifle. We know that that rifle was operable. All of that is incredibly important if you're going to suggest or the defense is going to be that it was a different weapon.

E (11:18)

Right.

C (11:19)

Or it was a different type of weapon, a.22 caliber class, you know, an M16 instead of a.30 06 Mauser. So it the ATF again. And don't forget, before people start now shifting their tinfoil hats and twisting their mustache from, well, maybe it was that rifle. But, you know, the. Or the ATF is, they've somehow corrupted the evidence. There's a chain of custody from the medical examiner to the autopsy to local law enforcement to the atf, and all the way back. So all of this has been photographed from, from the very beginning to the very end under a microscope. And so there's nobody that's going to be able to come in and say, well, that's not the round they pulled from his body. It was something else again. Evidence matters. The rules of evidence matters. The way we conduct ourselves in our criminal justice system is incredibly important. And it is hard to prove a case beyond a reasonable doubt. And I've done it over 100 times. I've prosecuted well over 10,000 defendants, most of them to please, and it's incredibly difficult standard. And so you can't have those little lapses in evidence. That's why the ATF is so reliable. They are the best in the business. And this evidence, this report, which the defense counsel knew in September, I'm guaranteeing, at least by November of last year, is devastating to Tyler Robinson.

D (12:38)

Jay, I want to ask about another piece of evidence that came out about a week ago. We got sort of an itemized list of all of the evidence they found when they were searching Tyler Robinson's home. Among other things, FBI agents found a handwritten letter that he gave to Lance Twiggs. The person he was in that relationship with, said, among other things, Luna, which is what he called him. If you are reading this per my text, I am sorry. I left the house this morning on a mission and sent an auto text. I am likely dead or facing a lengthy prison sentence. I had the opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk, and I took it. I don't know If I will or have succeeded, but I hoped to make it home to you. It goes on like this for a while. Ends. I love you always, Tyler. I guess this seems like a smoking gun. Like, what. What possibly could the defense do in the face of something like this? What do you, as a prosecutor, have you seen defense teams try to get out of something like this?

C (13:41)

Well, I mean, you know, I mean, let's. Let's presume that they're going to attack that Tyler Robinson wrote that note at all. But again, the evidence against Tyler Robinson is so overwhelming that allowing the Daily Mail or some of these bloggers online with podcasts to go ahead and try to sow doubt about the weapon or about. So some other person being involved, you know, that is really the best defense. That and delay. Because the actual physical evidence, the scientific evidence, the forensic evidence, the investigative evidence is overwhelming against Tyler Robinson. I don't know what's on that list. If the Dremel, you know, remember, there's little markings, engravings on the actual shell casings. I don't know if the Dremel was found, but let's just say that it was. I bet you that the next time you have me on your show that there will be DNA, Tyler Robinson's DNA found on that Dremel tool that carved whatever those messages were into the. Into the shell casings. I don't know if they found a Dremel or not, but if they did, that's just more, you know, in the planning that went into this and the effort and the time that it took, the diabolical nature of Tyler Robinson, that's all coming out, folks. He did it. That's it. That's the ball game. And I say that as a professional prosecutor for 30 years.

B (15:13)

Jay, you know, I think about. You said the best defense that they have is either to delay, which is what they did with that defense motion, which led to the whole, you know, that's what they were asking for, which led to the whole Daily Mail debacle. And so I guess my question is. Or they're gonna point to somebody else being involved, which, you know, there is evidence that, you know, people seem to know in advance that Charlie was going to. That there was gonna be an attack on his life that day. There seems to be ample evidence of that. Apparently, there's still open investigations on those fronts. What would that do if they did find somebody else was. Had advanced knowledge and didn't inform the police or maybe tried to radicalize them? Would that be a helpful thing for the defense? Is that I just want to know what that. What that means in the trial.

C (16:06)

Yeah, I mean, it wouldn't be helpful for the defense. Remember, there's a very big difference between I knew and said nothing and I somehow engaged in acts and furtherance of the murder.

B (16:18)

Right.

C (16:19)

Even if you gave somebody a ride or dropped them off or helped them hide something, you know, that would all be part of what would be legally a conspiracy at that point. So those two things are very different and is very responsible of the Bureau and the ATF to be tracking that evidence down in the state of Utah. But I don't know that it matters much for Tyler Robinson if there's 200 more people involved. As far as his defense goes. It matters to us, matters to Erica, it matters to America. But Tyler Robinson's fate, I think, was sealed the moment. Well, certainly the moment he pulled the trigger. But the moment that the FBI and the ATF engaged and started doing their job, that's when Tyler Robinson's fate was sealed. Because those are the best in the world.

B (17:06)

Jay, last question. Ten seconds here. Five seconds. Really? Do you think he's going to plead? Is that your prediction?

C (17:12)

No, I think that they're going to seek the death penalty. And there's no plea to a death penalty case. So he's going to have to suffer through a trial and see if a jury gives him death. He deserves it.

B (17:21)

J Town, that was excellent. Thank you, sir. Talk to you soon.

F (17:24)

Thank you.

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D (19:28)

Like, so we have. They're just. It's an 800 plus page report that they released.

B (19:33)

Todd Blanche.

D (19:33)

Release it. Yeah. And what they're showing is things like there's the National Abortion Federation. They basically had the DOJ on speed dial. The DOJ was their personal law firm. We have an email where a DOJ prosecutor, one of the fired ones, Sanjay Patel, he referred to the National Abortion Federation's Michelle Davidson as a, quote, mvp. Because what Davidson would do is send in pro life activists saying, hey, we don't like these activists. You guys should prosecute them.

G (20:04)

And.

D (20:04)

And it says, which usually result in an investigation, prosecution.

B (20:08)

Can we just pause for a second here? So the Biden DOJ basically outsourced investigatory power and ability authority to the National Abortion Federation, an organization that all it does is push abortions, the killing of babies, innocent unborn children. We're getting butchered by this organization. That's what they promote. And they had a direct line into the Biden DOJ to then go after pro lifers, complete with a dossier on these people. So, yeah, we have.

D (20:43)

I just said it to you guys. Throw it up. They're literally putting these, like, dossiers together. Shows a person's face, shows a close up, has their description, physical appearance, spouse, family, close associates. These are put together by a separate actor, the National Abortion Federation, and shipped to the doj. Hey, here's this person. Please go after them.

B (21:05)

Yeah. And so the FACE act was weaponized. What does the FACE act stand for? I didn't look that up.

D (21:11)

Freedom of access to clinic entrances, I think. And it basically, it's the same bill. They actually used to go after Don Lamond because the left wanted to go after people who protested abortion clinics. And so the right sort of as their pound of flesh took out, also protesting at churches.

B (21:28)

So this was, I mean, you look at this dossier, by the way, this is about the same thing that these militant far left groups do to our citizen journalists, by the way, that go out there. So that when these activists are on the streets in Minneapolis or whatever, they can identify Savannah Hernandez or whoever, Cam Higbee, Nick Sorter. So this is what these militant left groups do, is they create a dossier so that you can attack them and then in this case actually wield state power with prosecution. So they would actually. We have a jury questionnaire, by the way, in this report that the DOJ put together for one of the Face act cases involving pro life defendants Calvin Zastrow, Chester Gallagher, Heather Edone, Joel Curry, Justin Phillips, Eva Edel and Eva Zastrow. So those are the good guys. Those names I just named, those were pro lifers that were getting prosecuted by the DOJ over apparent Face act violations, which was probably a hoax. And the jurors were asked if they get their news from Daily Wire, Matt Walsh and Daily Signal. So these were the groups that were aggressively reporting on the weaponization of the FACE Act. This is shocking stuff. So they, the DOJ works hand in glove with a militant pro abortion group that likes to kill unborn innocent babies. Then they get dossiers on who to prosecute. And then the DOJ puts out a jury questionnaire in the case to make sure they're not getting any news about their weaponization of the DOJ with these Face act violations.

D (23:07)

There's so much stuff we could get into. Like people they were prosecuting, they were doing similar to J6, where you could have easily just indicted this person in a normal way, but as a stunt, they'll send heavily harmed FBI agents to kick down their door while their kids are there all screaming. They did that to a man, I believe, Paul Vaughn in Tennessee. They did that with him. Mark Hauck, another one. All of this outrageous behavior, another thing that should be flagged and this merits follow up investigation. A lawyer for the National Abortion Federation, their chief legal and strategy officer, was testifying before Congress to Chip Roy and claimed to them actually, you know, we had pretty much no influence over Biden Face act prosecution. So they claimed publicly to Congress they were not able to influence these things. Now we know that was a lie. They were basically, they had a practical assembly line for these prosecutions direct to the DOJ prosecutor.

B (24:10)

They outsourced their investigation.

D (24:11)

The DOJ outsourced it to them and then was saying, these guys are great. They send us all this info on

B (24:17)

who we can prosecute, calling them MVPs. Yeah. And then they lied about it because of course, that's what cults do. That's what baby killing cultists do. I mean, evil's going to behave. Evil. That's what happens. The report just in conclusion, the Biden DOJ violated the rights of Americans by its biased enforcement of the Face Act. So that's point one. Point two, the Biden DOJ collaborated with pro abortion groups to track pro life activists and their First Amendment activity. So Todd Blanche and the DOJ are saying this is their First Amendment rights that were violated. And yeah, you saw a tweet by Mary Margaret Olihan, who's done a great job covering this. Point three, the Biden DOJ prosecutors engaged in inappropriate content and comment or conduct and comments, which is clear. Four, the Biden DOJ pursued more severe charges and significantly harsher sentences for peaceful pro life defendants than violent pro abortion defendants. And maybe that's worth getting into a little bit. You will remember stories of all of these people getting firebombed.

D (25:25)

The worst thing any of these people did is basically they did a, you know, when college students will like occupy the president's building on a campus. They were doing that in abortion clinics. That's the worst thing any of these people did is they disruptively occupied a clinic and then. Yeah, we've had multiple cases. Yeah, Pro abortion zealots will sucker punch people praying outside of clinics. Firebomb clinics. Firebombers. The pro abortion ones or not. Oh, yeah, the crisis pregnancy centers.

B (25:51)

Yeah.

D (25:52)

So of course, another thing we'd be remiss if we missed. We have assistant U.S. attorneys, the assistant prosecutors in these cases. They're internally complaining that they, quote, ended up with a very Catholic magistrate, a judge on duty this week. He was very particular about the bond conditions and not infringing on defendants. First Amendment rights. Don't you hate it when that happens?

B (26:16)

Don't you hate it when there's actually somebody with principles and scrutiny?

D (26:18)

Don't you hate it when they're defending the First Amendment?

B (26:22)

But I just want to, I want to underscore that fourth point that the Biden DOJ pursued more severe charges against peaceful pro life activists than they did for violent pro abortion defendants. So you are. You would get a harsher sentence for praying too close to an abortion clinic or yeah, to Blake's point, sometimes they would do sit ins and they understood that they were maybe going to get arrested. But it was kind of a, it was a protest, like you're trying to disrupt the killing of innocent life. So they would sit there and they would pray they would get a harsher sentence than the people who firebombed pregnancy centers. Just like let that sink in. And point number five, the Biden DOJ sought to provide funding to pro abortion groups, which of course that's what they do. So if you are a 501C3 that likes to murder little babies, they're going to make sure that you get all the money and funding you need. Just like they give all the money and funding they need to the groups that help illegals gay mar asylum system. So this is a really huge story because these people are now fired. They are gone.

D (27:41)

Yeah, I'm genuinely angry. I'm reading the Mary Margaret's thread on X where she's describing these people have been fired from their jobs. We see potential threads where, you know, maybe you could indict this person. National Abortion Federation. They actually has already been accountability for real people who helped cause this to happen. And then these replies are these random whiners saying, nice report, nothing will happen. Oh, that's a cool. Another report where no one will be held accountable. Guys, they held the. That Sanjay Patel, the first guy we mentioned, they fired him. He lost his job because of this misconduct. That is actual accountability. That is actual progress. And you can't ignore those things because you want to complain.

B (28:28)

Well, and that's the thing. I just want to make that point one more time. If Kamala Harris had won or if we get Democrats in power again, imagine what's going to happen to the pro life movement. Imagine. And I would wager to suggest this is the most pro life administration we have ever had. And so we need to be thankful for that.

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B (31:23)

So RFK has been testifying on Capitol Hill this morning and there was two pieces of news that I want to tie into the fact that this is the most pro life administration I believe that we've ever had, at least in modern American history. Since the passage of Roe v. Wade, certainly. And this one was really shocking.

E (31:43)

Satsik's Their vision is one family per one for one child. Right now we have a two to one ratio. And part of the reason for that is that the Biden administration was excluding an entire class of people because of their religious beliefs. We are. And told the states to actually pass laws, instructed them to pass laws refusing families who had certain religious beliefs, mainly Christian religious beliefs, not be allowed to have children. And that dramatically constricted the pool of available parents.

B (32:21)

So I want to make sure you caught what he just said there at the end. The Biden administration was restricting adoptions for Christian families. We are a Christian nation. So you just took off a huge swath of people that wanted to adopt babies. That not only does it make any sense, it's insane. That is diabolical. I would say Christians are the ones most prone to. To have their hearts moved by God to go adopt a baby that needs a home and that needs love. And they were biased against Christian families. So once again tying it into our theme. If you're tempted to complain about this or that, and that's fine, you can have policy disagreements, you can complain about certain things, you can hold the administration's feet to the fire. I think that's all fair. But just remember what we were living under, this sort of soft tyranny, this behind the scenes tyranny. We where a Christian family would have gone and said our hearts are moved to adopt a baby that needs a family. And the Biden administration actively worked to exclude Christian families from the adoption market pool. That's so evil it's hard to put into words. So RFK was making a point that more babies are being adopted now and you can have multiple, maybe in some homes overturning Biden era policies. I don't know if you have a thought on that. You're the Catholic. I know this is near and dear to Catholics.

D (33:55)

It's just very evil what they do. You see this with the story we just talked about. You can mix in a million others. We'll get into it in the next segment. With their approach on amnesty and all of that. It's just this. There's a lot of malice that drives a lot of left wing policies in a way that is very.

B (34:15)

The anti Christian bias of the Biden administration and all the little apparatchiks that he staffed his government with. Because let's be honest, I mean Biden was old and senile. He wasn't running all this. This was a bunch of young radicals that have a very clear vision of the future of this country. One, they want mass immigration. They want to replace you, anybody of European descent and heritage. You are an impediment to them doing whatever the hell they want to do with this country. So they want to get rid of you. And we're going to get into that next hour with Orin McIntyre. Number two, they don't like Christians. Why don't they like Christians? Well, because Christians tend to vote Republican first of all. And Christians stand in the way of their communist takeover of the country. So they don't want babies going into Christian homes even if they need adoption, even if they need love, even if they need a roof over their head. They would rather not allow more babies to get become Christian because that doesn't play well with their future vision of America.

D (35:11)

The left since the French Revolution has always been anti Christian. They were in France, they were in Soviet Russia. It has always been a core part of its agenda.

B (35:19)

I totally agree. And here's another bombshell from RFK's testimony that I think plays into this theme very well.

E (35:29)

It was a humanitarian crisis. What my predecessor engineered with the Biden administration. They lost 425,000 children. They lost them because they ended verification of sponsors. People were just showing up with fake IDs. There was no genetic testing. There was no income inquiries. There was no ID validation. And we are now in the process of trying to find those children. We've been able to locate 138,000 of them.

B (36:06)

So just to wrap this up, and we have some breaking news. The Trump administration has located almost 140,000 missing kids out of the 425,000 missing unaccompanied minors that the Biden administration was

D (36:20)

waving kids in, alleged kids in and just letting them disappear into America. No follow up, no tracking.

B (36:25)

The humanitarian. The compassionate party just loses half a million kids and no idea where they went. And the Trump administration is doing the hard work to identify and locate them. It's painstaking process. But they've identified 138,000 of them. Most pro life administration in living memory, I would wager to guess. And now breaking news.

D (36:47)

We have breaking news just happened a few minutes ago. So we covered with the chapter leader at Utah Valley the other day how they got a commencement speaker who had attacked Charlie after his death, tried to explain why, why people might be celebrating his death, why people might that why he was a figure of bigotry and hate. And we criticized that. And Utah Valley just announced minutes ago they will have no commencement speaker for this Spring. Now, here's what's annoying. They say it's not because, oh, we picked a terrible speaker and that was our bad. They say they have increased safety concerns about what happened. So of course, basically it's our fault. We were engaged in menacing behavior, they say. But regardless, it's a speaker they shouldn't have chosen.

B (37:34)

Yep. Good. Listen, this was.

D (37:37)

Nobody was making any threats about this.

B (37:39)

Nobody was.

D (37:40)

Not on the show or anywhere else.

B (37:41)

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C (39:07)

in Springfield, they're eating the dogs. The people that came in, they're eating the cats, they're eating. They're eating the pets of the people that live there. And this is what's happening in our country. And it's a shame, you know, I

B (39:24)

can't even hear that, that classic clip without thinking of the song that came out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're eating the dogs. All right, there's some unfortunate news, but listen, we just got to cover it.

D (39:36)

We just said no black pilling. But we do have to cover bad news. So we cover bad news but hold people accountable.

B (39:41)

Here to help us do it is Orin McIntyre. He's a columnist and Blaze TV host of the Orin McIntyre. Oren, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. It's good to see you.

H (39:49)

Thanks for having me, guys.

B (39:51)

So you put out a tweet this morning with the names of six GOP traders is what you called them. And I agree that would be Rep. Maria Salazar, who we've covered extensively on the show. Rep. Don Bacon, Rep. Brian Fitz, I guess that's his handle. Rep. Mike Lawler, there's some others. We've got the names there for you, the phone numbers. Oren, I'm so glad that you led this charge because there has been a vote to give to extend temporary protected status to hundreds of thousands of Haitian migrants that Joe Biden let in. Explain what happened here and their rationale and why you're so passionate about this issue.

H (40:36)

Well, a lot of people have given the idea that these are valuable workers, they're working in the healthcare industry, making sure to take care of our seniors and we have to keep them around because also it's just too dangerous. We actually had some, some representatives say that it was a death sentence to send these people back to Haiti. The incredible thing is, you know, the problem with Haiti, the reason it's dangerous is because Haitians live there. It's, it's a, on an island that is divided between two different countries and one of them is just fine, the Dominican Republic. I wouldn't want to live there, but it's okay. And then there's Haiti and it's been a nightmare its entire existence. So it's not socioeconomic factors, it's not the land. This is a group of people who have a high propensity towards violence and they don't belong in the United States, yet they're kept here. In fact, there's such a danger involved that recently a woman in my area of Florida was beaten to death with a hammer by a Haitian immigrant. We do not need people here who have a violent history who don't belong here. And the idea that because it's too dangerous to go back to the very place that was made dangerous by many of these people or that somehow keeping them around for economic benefit is ultimately justified is insane. This is not why people supported Donald Trump. It's not why people supported the Republican Party. It's exactly the opposite. And the fact that Maria Salazar is yet again leading the charge on a horrific immigration related bill really tells us that we need to be very careful about who's getting endorsements and who's ultimately getting support from Donald Trump and the Republican Party. We do not expect this. We shouldn't have to live like this. This is insane.

B (42:11)

Yeah. And you see the B roll right here. Oren, of that apparently is illegal. That was given. That was allowed in during the Biden years and bludgeoned a woman to death. And that's close to where you live. I mean, that really brings it home. And there was no. We can't tell from the footage that anything incited this violence. It seems to be a completely random act of violence. And we have instance after instance after instance of law abiding, peaceful Americans that have been killed, maimed, murdered by illegals, by foreigners that have the business to be here.

D (42:52)

Illegals led in by Biden given quasi amnesty, given asylum seekers, given free housing. And yeah, it's every. What, every month, every two months, we just drumbeat another one of these murders.

B (43:04)

Yeah, well. And what's insane about this, actually, J.D. vance's made good comments about this is the left will come back, Oren, and they'll say, well, they aren't illegals. They're legally here because of temporary protected status. What's your response to. What's your response to that?

H (43:18)

I think we need to get over this obsession with proceduralism. Okay. That's not okay. That these people are my country. I don't care if they're here legally or not. They don't belong here. And you can't just wave a wand as the Biden administration and say, because we sprinkled some fairy dust over these people, now they're here legally. No, absolutely not. They're not citizens. They. They didn't go through a process. They do not belong here. And even if they had gone through the whole process, I wouldn't care, because I care about the wellbeing of my community. I've driven by that gas station many times. This is not some theoretical thing. This is not some abstract discussion on the nature of American immigration and who we believe ultimately to be a citizen and what makes an American. Those are all really important discussions. But this is brass. Tax safety of people with. We just saw a child, you know, slashed in the face by an immigrant. We got the. The police body cam footage from the whole thing. Luckily, that officer shot that woman for doing so. But ultimately, this is something we're seeing day in and day out. The American people are living under the tyranny and violence of illegal immigration. And sadly, legal immigration people should not be coming to this country right now. We are full. We. We have to deal with the violence that is already here. The poverty is already here. We're talking about in the Haitian community, a community that is over 60% on welfare, on some form of government subsidy. These people are not adding to the economy. They're not adding to the American dream. They are taking it away. There should be no room for this. I don't care what kind of paperwork was waved over them when they walked across the border or flew in.

D (44:54)

It's just truly like it is mental illness as a country to do this, to take people who we can know, we can run the numbers. They will be dependents. They will on average, be net negatives for this country to pay to bring them in, pay to support them, pay to investigate the crimes we commit, pay to imprison them. All of these things I really want to dive into specifically the insanity of this temporary protected status thing that they're trying to extend by statute for them. Haiti has been under temporary protected status since 2011 because there was that earthquake in Haiti. 2010. That was 16 years ago. A person who was born after that earthquake is nearly old enough to vote. That is not temporary. That's just permanently saying we're allowing anyone from this bad country to come here. We have worse examples. If you want to know how insane this program is, a lot of these countries were trying to remove it. One that we haven't tried to remove it yet is El Salvador. Guess how long El Salvador has been under temporary protected status?

B (45:55)

No idea.

D (45:55)

2001. So 2001, you are 25 years old if you were born after that order came down. And on top of that, it's El Salvador. El Salvador is safer than the United States.

B (46:06)

Exactly.

D (46:07)

El Salvador is great right now. Why do we need any temporary program to keep an illegal immigrant from El Salvador from going back to the country they came from?

B (46:14)

They'd be better off. So why are six GOP House members again? Don Bankhead, Brian Fitzpatrick, Mike Lawler, Maria Elvira Salazar, who, by the way, said the Dignidad act is not amnesty. And then she turns around and tries to give amnesty to hundreds of thousands of Haitians. Carlos Jimenez from Florida's 28th and Nicole Maliatakis from New York's 11th district. Why are they throwing in with Democrats to extend temporary protected status again?

H (46:42)

I think a lot of them will give you some kind of false answer about, you know, the dangers of the community, the dangers to the community if they go back or what their economic output is. The truth is, ultimately these people are trying to get votes. They understand that if they stay long enough, these people are going to get some kind of citizenship. They're going to get some kind of amnesty. We've got the. The 14th Amendment and the birthright citizenship case. Citizenship case in front of the Supreme Court right now. As long as these people have kids in the United States, they're going to be here, and those kids are going to get to vote. And these people know that ultimately this is going to secure them political. That's what it's really all about. It's ethnic patronage that's going to guarantee you some kind of political power down the line. And it's a betrayal of Americans. It's a betrayal of Republican voters.

B (47:23)

Oren, there was some comments here by Pope Leo that are a little bit frustrating to hear. And I'm not Catholic. Blake is Catholic, so he's my cover.

D (47:34)

Makes a lot of annoying comments.

B (47:36)

So let's go ahead and play SOT7. I know that in Europe there are

C (47:41)

many times fears that are present, but oftentimes generated by people who are against immigration and trying to keep out people who may be from another country, another religion, another race. And in that sense, I would say that we all need to work together. One of the values of this trip is precisely to raise the world's attention to. To the possibility that dialogue and friendship between Muslims and Christians is possible.

B (48:15)

So lifting up Lebanon as an example of why it's okay to have a bunch of Muslims immigrate into Europe, and it's all gonna be okay. Oren, your response?

H (48:26)

Yeah, I think Europe is just doing great with all those Muslims. There haven't been any problem. The large number of English girls who have been raped and had that covered up by the government, I'm sure that they really believe that ultimately Islam and Christianity can coexist peacefully. Obviously, this is ridiculous. And, you know, both American Protestants and Catholics need to bond over our habit of ignoring what the Pope says. He's been wrong about this pretty much every turn. The Catholics have another liberal Pope on immigration. No surprise there. We should not be influenced on this in any way by the Pope.

B (49:00)

You know, it's interesting. I was on with Chris Cuomo on his show yesterday, and he sort of said, as a, as a Catholic, I'm offended that some of the comments that J.D. vance made about the Pope and the delineation between, I guess, his theological commentary and his political commentary, but it all kind of feels like it's, you know, it's political. Candidly. You know, you might couch it in theological terms, but it feels political. Now, Blake gets a freebie because he's Catholic. But, Oren, you and me, we are not Catholic. Where do you think the line is as Protestants? I mean, I wanna bring the Catholics and Protestants together. I feel like there's this effort to sort of put a wedge between us. So we're very ecumenical on this show. But, man, if he keeps saying we need to just, like, let in all these Muslims come into the West, I feel like I have to speak up because this is getting out. This is getting out of control. What's your take as a Protestant?

H (49:55)

I think it's really important, and I think many Catholics already know this, but I think it's important that everyone drives this home for us to just recognize that there are huge problems inside of every denomination. Right now. I'm a Southern Baptist, and while luckily we don't have someone like the Pope up there talking, it's not like evangelical Christians don't have some pretty bad examples going around right now, you know, so it's okay if we just all take a moment to maybe get that log out of our own eye before we start yelling about the speck in each other's eyes. I think both Protestant and Catholics have a lot of work to do. That said, Catholics need to become, you know, more comfortable with people going after the Pope when he says something stupid. If you turn around and tell me that, you know, Paula White is saying something crazy and needs to be ignored, that's not going to offend me as a Protestant. I'm going to be okay and my feelings will not get hurt. I'll just agree with you. And I think we need to treat the Pope the same way. I understand it's a little harder for Catholics. They have one unified command structure. So, you know, any individual person isn't as embarrassing for the different Protestant denominations as where the Catholic really only have one guy that they kind of are looking towards when it comes to this kind of stuff. But we all need to be able to take a step back and say, look, let's solve these problems inside our own churches. And if someone notices that one of the people who are leading one of our churches or the entire church is saying something dumb, let's not get offended when they point out. And that's correct. It's okay to correct these things. If the Pope is going to come out and say something stupid about immigration, about politics, then it is our right to say, no, that's dumb, and you're entering into a realm you should not be playing in. And that's going to come with consequences. We're going to push back on that. And that doesn't mean we're attacking Catholics worldwide any more than having comments about Paula White is attacking, you know, all Protestants.

B (51:43)

It's okay, Blake, you're Catholic.

D (51:45)

It's just. Yeah, it is what frustrates me the most. I, you know, I'll have a lot more tolerance for the Pope weighing in on something that actually matches with two millennia of Catholic teaching. Because the core of the church's truth claim is that it's had the same message for a long time. So, for example, I checked and the Pope also criticized when J.B. pritzker legalized assisted suicide in Illinois, for example. I'm glad he did that. Assisted suicide is bad. Christians, the Catholic Church has always opposed assisted suicide, always deposed abortion. And if you want to say we've always favored peace, that's fine. But saying actually you have to embrace mass immigration from Muslim countries, you have to have amnesty for illegal immigrants. That is not a Catholic position. That is just a lib position.

B (52:33)

Well, that's what's interesting. You know, what about the reconquest of Spain? It was a 7th century effort to push the Muslim conquerors out of Spain. Is that a bad thing that Spain is now Christian and Catholic, for that matter? I mean, I just, none of this actually comports with what I've seen historically. I mean, I think there's another issue with the Pope that drives a lot of us nuts, is that this selective outrage where he's going to Algeria. He's talking about Muslims and Christians uniting and coexisting in peace and harmony, which has not been the case anywhere. Lebanon, by the way, used to be almost 70% Christian. Now it's about 29% Christian because guess what? A lot of Christian Lebanese have had to flee their home country because of persecution, harassment.

D (53:20)

And it's not a nice country. It's a country certainly not anymore. Today it's had civil wars. Take a wild guess who the factions in those civil wars are. And it's had a lot of violence. It's not. And it's not very economically well off. And it's also politically split. The classic reasons diversity is not very good. Their politics is just entirely sectarian. And so you can't have normal political debates about anything. That's one of the obvious downsides of diversity writ large all over the world. And it's annoying and frankly, a little obnoxious and clueless for the Pope to say, why don't you all look at this country, that's not awesome and try to imitate them.

B (54:02)

Final thoughts to you, Oren. Is diversity our strength? And what do we do about it?

H (54:07)

No, not at all. And the funny thing is the Catholic Church recognized this. Remember, Europe would be Muslim if not for Charles Martel killing a lot of Muslims. If Charlemagne had not ultimately conquered the Saxons with the sword, they never would have become Christian. Let's not even start with the defensive wars of the Crusades. Obviously, there's a long history of the Church being involved in very serious conflict, in often cases. Protection of the faith of believers. There's absolutely nothing wrong with fighting against those who oppose and want to destroy Christendom. Like that's actually what the Church should be there to do. So when you have a Pope running around saying, actually, this is never justified and you have to let Muslims into your land, he is literally working in the exact opposite, opposite way that the Catholic Church has worked for centuries. There's simply no reason to be pushing this unless you're just pushing a liberal worldview under the guise of Catholic theology. And I think pretty much everyone, Protestant and Catholic, is exhausted with that.

B (55:11)

Orin McIntyre. Great stuff. Check him out at the Orin McIntyre show at BlazeTV. And he's also a columnist there. Great stuff, Oren. Thank you.

H (55:19)

Thanks for having me, guys.

B (55:23)

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B (56:37)

We have Daisy in studio.

D (56:39)

She's back.

B (56:40)

She's back. All right, Daisy. We call this no stupid questions because we don't believe there are stupid questions. I have a stupid question for you, but we can get to that later if you want. We can start with yours.

G (56:51)

This no dumb questions, I think, has a little bit of a twist, because I've never been dumber in some ways. I've been on maternity leave for three months, and it was very much like, I didn't just not work.

D (57:02)

What is that? That's my question. You used to be here, Daisy, and you've been gone for three months. What happened?

G (57:09)

And I never thought that I'd be gone for three months, but then you just have the most perfect little baby in the world, and you're like, oh,

B (57:14)

I. I predicted you weren't gonna come back at all.

G (57:17)

I never thought that was the case. I did take off a little more time than I thought I was going to, but I didn't just not work. Also, so much of our work has to do with the news and politics that I was just, like, out of my mind completely.

B (57:29)

Did you. Did you find that your. Your happiness quotient was higher?

G (57:32)

1,000%? I was like, oh, you don't have to be, like, bogged down by the news every day. It was amazing. But then you kind of step back into reality, and you're like, wait, gas prices are, like, way higher, and we're in some sort of war, and something happened in Hungary. And also, Trump is tweeting at the Pope, so I missed a lot.

B (57:51)

And posting Jesus memes. It was actually just a Red Cross,

G (57:54)

but he thought he was a doctor.

D (57:55)

Is that how you learned about the Iran thing? As you just noticed, the gas prices changed a lot.

G (58:00)

Well, there was some bombing with Lebanon first. No, no, after Iran.

D (58:07)

Okay, Iran.

G (58:07)

Okay.

B (58:08)

Strait of Hormuz.

G (58:09)

Yes.

B (58:10)

Yeah.

G (58:10)

So I've been seeing the way that I'm seeing this is like, people that I follow just in my life. So they're on all sides of the spectrum posting outrage on their Instagram, stories on TikTok, and so it's like, he wants to open the straight. No one's opening the straight. Then it's like, I can't believe we bombed such and such. I'm like, I don't know what's happening. I'm just trying to fill up my gas tank. And it's like, almost $5. So something is clearly going on.

B (58:34)

All right, amazing. So you have. You have no stupid questions for us. What's the first one?

G (58:38)

Okay, so I did hear that something happened in Hungary. There was an Election.

B (58:42)

Yes.

G (58:42)

And I'm not sure which side is which, but one side was really happy about it, and one side and we're not.

D (58:47)

And then they're changing. It's changing. Who's happy all the time, this story. Yes. So there was a leader in Hungary we really liked. Charlie. Really liked. He's been around for a long time. His name was Viktor Orban.

G (58:57)

Yes.

D (58:58)

He won his first election back in 2010, I believe. Big landslide. And he's basically everything we would want in a leader. Pro family, pro borders, Christian pro borders. He stopped. He rejected all the immigrations that, you know, that's happening in most of Europe. And he made libs in Europe go absolutely bonkers. They've been obsessed with taking him out for 16 years at this point, but he won four elections in a row this time around, he was less popular. They've had corruption issues. I don't think that's surprising when you've been in power that long. They had some other flubs, so this time they ran a guy against him and he lost. Knocked him out of power. And so we were upset. The left was super happy. But the guy they ran against him to finally take him down, they did run a guy who was an ex member of his party. He was kind of on the right in a lot of ways. It's sort of like if the Democrats kept losing to Donald Trump and they finally ran maybe Mitt Romney or something as their candidate. And so just the other day, the. The new president, the new prime minister of Hungary came out and said, yeah, even though I'm in charge now, we're still not passing the European Union's migration agreement. In fact, I'm going to increase enforcement on immigration, and the border wall will get 10ft higher, as it were. And so I'd still say we'd rather have Orban, but that is a good sign. The left is gonna start freaking out. Maybe this guy will turn out to be a dictator, too.

G (60:24)

That's what I was gonna ask. Is he just better on immigration or.

B (60:28)

Probably he's more liberal than Orban. Yeah, but he's. He's not. He's not aoc. He's. He's something.

D (60:36)

If he stays good on immigration, we can handle him being bad on basically any other issue.

B (60:40)

Yeah. Immigration is the one thing that can truly transform negatively the. The countries of Europe.

D (60:47)

That's the one thing that's almost unfixable.

B (60:48)

It's unfixable. Once you let them in, you just. They're in. So that's it. That's not a stupid question. That's actually a good one because that's a new development in that story.

G (60:55)

When did that happen?

D (60:56)

That happened. The election was last Sunday.

G (60:58)

Okay.

B (60:59)

Yep. And J.D. vance actually had gone over and spoke there. Then he came back. Then he went to Islamabad. Then he came back. So he's been back and forth as well. I have a stupid question for you, unless you have another one.

G (61:10)

Well, I was gonna ask. I clearly was off on the Lebanon situation. What happened there?

D (61:15)

Okay. So we started the conflict with Iran because we had that build up started happening even before. Even before you went on maternity leave. We were gradually building up there. We of course had the strikes last summer. And then. Yeah, about six, seven weeks ago, right at the start of March into February, they did strikes on Iran. Basically said they're getting closer to a nuclear weapon. And they did a, they call it a decapitation strike. They took out the ayatollah. That is.

G (61:42)

I wasn't. That. I knew that was okay.

D (61:44)

So they did that. And then as that war broke out, Israel, who's been our ally fighting Iran, they also started, they moved troops into southern Lebanon and they started doing strikes on Lebanon. The reason they did that is there's a group called Hezbollah. And Hezbollah is a militia, kind of a private army, a non state army of Shia Muslims. That's the same religion they have in Iran. And they've been in conflict with Israel for ages. And I think Israel basically saw this war is also our chance to take out Hezbollah.

B (62:16)

Hezbollah is considered a proxy of the Iranian regime. They're funded by the Iranians. And so it's basically like two different groups, but they, they fight together. So Israel thinks, hey, we're flight, we're fighting Iran, we're going to fight Hezbollah. So they've been bombing Hezbollah. President Trump actually just said that they're working on a peace deal between Israel and Lebanon right now. So there's a meeting that's taking place at a very high level.

D (62:41)

Complication here is when we started that attempted ceasefire with Iran a couple weeks ago, there was a dispute because Israel continued to bomb Lebanon. And they said Lebanon's not part of the ceasefire. Iran says it should be part of the ceasefire. America was in the middle for a bit. We've now sided with Israel, said it's not, not part of the ceasefire. But we're now we have peace negotiations,

B (63:04)

but we're going to try and get peace there.

D (63:05)

Very complicated.

B (63:06)

Yeah.

D (63:07)

It's about as confusing to us.

G (63:08)

Which actually was such an educational conversation, the one you And I had about Iraq because I was, like, seven years old, I learned so much about the different, like, war gang allies that I just would have never known about.

D (63:21)

If it makes you feel better, all the different alliances and rivalries and hatreds in the Middle east are really complicated, even to me, even to the State Department. It's a mess.

B (63:30)

Which is a reason why we shouldn't be wasting blood treasure in the Middle east anyways.

G (63:35)

Okay, you're right.

B (63:36)

All right, who is Sabrina Carpenter, and why do I care?

D (63:38)

Yeah, why is she famous?

G (63:40)

I don't know that you care. I don't even know that I really care. But she is very famous. She is, to be completely honest, like, I really do like pop culture. She's not my personal taste. She is pretty explicit, very overt, not even overtly. It's, like, a lot of innuendos, very sexual. But she is the next big thing. She's actually. She was on Disney.

D (64:03)

How famous? How? From one to ten. Where ten is Taylor Swift.

G (64:07)

Yeah, if ten is Taylor Swift, I'd say she's seven or eight on her way up.

B (64:13)

Oh, wow.

G (64:15)

So she is. Yeah, she's very, very famous now, but she was on Disney Channel a long time ago.

B (64:20)

She looks old.

G (64:20)

She. She's probably my age. I would guess. I would. I would guess she's my age. But, yeah, she's the next big thing. She headlined Coachella. I Actually. This is how out of the loop I was. I heard about this story from Blake. He was like, do you want to talk about the Sabrina Carpenter thing?

B (64:36)

I was like, so what is the Sabrina Carpenter thing?

G (64:39)

I think, Blake, you should explain what you.

D (64:41)

No, no, no.

G (64:42)

You.

D (64:42)

You have learned more than me because you said it came up on one of your.

G (64:46)

Yes, on the toast. I was listening to toast right as Blake texted me about it, and. And they were talking about it. She was headlining Coachella, and all of a sudden, she heard this noise, and you could hear it, I guess, on the live stream of Coachella. So it must have been extremely loud. I'm gonna butcher the word. What is it? She did a zigrut. Is that what it is? The chant? Someone was yodeling in the crowd. She thought it was yodeling.

B (65:07)

Yodeling. It wasn't yodeling.

G (65:09)

No, we have the clip. What number is it?

B (65:11)

Oh, wait, no, that's. What clip? Sorry. I was going to say it was 26, but that's just how old Sabrina Carbert.

G (65:17)

Yeah, she is my age.

B (65:18)

She's 26.

G (65:18)

She is my age.

B (65:19)

Sat 12. Let's go ahead and play it.

G (65:23)

I think I heard someone yodel. Is that what you're doing? I don't like it. That's. Your culture is yodeling.

B (65:46)

Why is this controversial so?

G (65:48)

Because I guess it is, in fact, her culture in Middle Eastern and African

D (65:54)

cultures to be annoying at controversies.

G (65:56)

That is what I have heard and seen about it. So she was putting down this woman's culture. She thought it was yodeling. The toast actually had a good take on it because they were like, it's okay for. The backlash was so intense, and they basically said, okay, it's okay for her to make fun of yodeling if yodeling actually was someone's culture. But because it's Middle Eastern, African, that was their take.

D (66:17)

So is she on her way down now? Is Sabrina Carpenter finished?

G (66:20)

Well, I think that we're getting to a movies, but there's an Alex Cooper, Alex Earl drama that's happening that kind of took over. So Sabrina Carpenter is probably very happy that more drama is happening.

B (66:29)

Well, so some of these tweets are hilarious. Sabrina saying that she doesn't like a cultural Arabic cheer. This is so insensitive and Islamophobic. I'm very disappointed. Disappointed in her. Okay. And then she apologized. My apologies. I didn't see this person with my eyes and couldn't hear clearly. My reaction was pure confusion, sarcasm, and not ill intended. Could have handled it better. Now I know what a Zagruta is. I welcome all cheers and yodels from here on out. Okay.

D (66:54)

Her next concert's gonna be horrible.

B (66:56)

It's gonna be terrible. I don't know if I have more dumb questions or if you have more dumb questions.

G (66:59)

Okay. But there is not a question, something that I did want to address because I feel like we know that Charlie would have loved this. So there's a Page Six exclusive that came out that Taylor and Travis have set their wedding date, and it's July 4th weekend in New York City. So it is allegedly happening.

B (67:16)

Well, very patriotic.

G (67:17)

I don't know.

D (67:17)

Is she gonna be Taylor Kelce?

G (67:19)

I don't think Charlie would be that happy because I don't think she's gonna take his last name.

B (67:23)

Taylor Kelce or you don't mean it. Remember that line?

G (67:26)

I remember. I remember that day. He was live on there, and me and Emma Kate are like, taylor and Travis just got engaged. It was like the world stopped.

B (67:34)

And he just kind of, like, riffed like, you know, gotta take the name or you don't mean it.

G (67:40)

He was genuinely happy for him.

B (67:41)

I remember he got criticized for it, but he was actually very pop positive. He said, listen, this is actually good for marriage, marriage culture, you know, maybe a lot. Maybe she'll be happier and she won't be writing all these depressing songs.

D (67:55)

Have we seen that happen? Have there been TikToks or Instagrams of people who got engaged because Taylor got engaged?

G (68:03)

Well, the issue with that is, I think. I don't know that a lot of her fan base is. I don't know how to say this.

B (68:08)

Oh, we have the clip. We have the clip.

G (68:10)

Canceled.

B (68:12)

I think we have the clip. Yes. Loaded as 13. This was the moment you were talking about.

G (68:17)

Excited.

A (68:18)

This is something that I hope will make Taylor Swift more conservative, engage in reality more, and get outside of the abstract clouds. Reject feminism. Submit to your husband, Taylor. You're not in charge. And most importantly, I can't wait to go to a Taylor Kelsey concert. I can't say it without laughing. You got to change your name. If not, you don't really mean it. Congratulations, Taylor.

G (68:50)

That's. I think, in. In Charlie's way, he was genuinely very happy for them. But what. What got him in the public is when he said, submit to your husband, because that's the same. The Taylor Swift fans do not want to hear that.

B (69:01)

Well, she should.

G (69:02)

I 100% agree.

D (69:04)

Wasn't even her own album basically about that.

G (69:07)

Yeah. She had a song about how she. We talked about it in an ama about how she was. Someone wrote in us. She was really excited to, like, get married and settle down. I also have to say this. I think what I was gonna say without wanting to get canceled, is that you asked if her fan base is actually going to start getting married. The issue is that they might not have been setting themselves up to get married this entire time in the same way that Taylor Swift was, because they had so bought into the feminism girl boss thing. Even though that's not. That's what we were trying to tell Charlie this whole time. That's not what Taylor Swift was bought into. And so now she's getting married. And they all might be. They might be trying to look in some slim pickings for men to get married to now.

B (69:49)

Oh, you think they're. They've aged out of the prime dating pool?

G (69:54)

That's what I was saying without wanting to say it. I'm sorry.

B (69:56)

I'll say it.

G (69:56)

I'm sorry.

E (69:57)

Yeah.

B (69:57)

I mean, listen, if you want to get married, like, don't wait till you're 35 and all the good ones are gone. It's A poor strategy. You're like, okay, go freeze your eggs. Go work in middle management at some shoe company and see how that works out for you. Okay, whatever.

G (70:10)

And to the person that emailed it and said that me and Blake should get married. I am already married. My husband with my baby.

H (70:15)

Yeah.

B (70:15)

So we still pro marriage for Blake 100%.

G (70:19)

So resumes, that's proof that we're seeing your emails. So please write in and give them to us.

B (70:24)

We monitor them the whole show. Freedom. Charlie Kirk dot com. If you are interested in Blake, we are taking applications right now. We should do an A.

G (70:32)

We should do an ama. That's like speed dating theme.

D (70:34)

Oh, dear, oh, dear.

B (70:36)

Only potential suitors for Blade.

G (70:38)

Oh, my gosh. Like, Love is blind. Remember when we talked about Love is blind on thought crime, but you can only hear their voice and you can't ask any questions about what they look like.

B (70:45)

He's been taking his strong self for a while now. He is ready. He is in prime physical condition and he's, he's, he's ready. He's ready and able and he is, He's a good man.

G (70:57)

That's. If something's gonna get me to come back to work after maternity leave, it is finding the.

D (71:01)

I will say I did date someone who contacted the show for quite.

G (71:07)

That could be it didn't work out, but it was fine.

D (71:09)

That could be you.

B (71:10)

You're a gentleman. You're a gentleman. Okay, I have one last stupid question for you. There's like these Alex people. Alex Cooper, who's the call? Call Her Daddy.

G (71:18)

Yes.

B (71:19)

She's the 31 year old host of the Call Her Daddy podcast. And Alex Earl, who I've never heard about. 25 year old Internet.

G (71:25)

That is shocking that you've never heard about her.

B (71:27)

So they're beefing.

G (71:28)

Yes.

B (71:29)

And you said that this, this got some of the heat off Sabrina Carpenter.

G (71:32)

Yes.

B (71:33)

What is the beef about?

G (71:33)

Like Monday morning Coachella was Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday morning. So Alex Cooper is Call Her Daddy. She is the, the opposite of everything that we have wanted to discuss in the show. Very pro abortion, very radically crass. Yeah, she is. She's something. But she signed Alex Earle, who is like biggest influencer in the world right now. She is the cream of the crop.

B (71:59)

She's the girl in the red dress.

G (72:00)

If you're looking on the screen and everyone loves her. She's 25, I think you said she signed Alix Earl to her network at Call Her Daddy. Then they had a major falling out. Alex Cooper posted a video on Monday saying, alex, make a video saying exactly what happened between us. And we'll see what the public decides whose side they're on. Because everyone that speculated that it's all financial. Alex's dad was her manager and, like, canceled the contract between the two of them. But what is interesting and how this does circle back is Alex Earle's dad is married to a woman named Ashley Dupre, who was a part of a prostitution scandal In, I think, 2008 with the new York Mayor Eric Spritzer. Does anyone remember what I'm talking about?

D (72:44)

There was an Elliot Spitzer.

G (72:46)

Yes, yes. Him. He.

B (72:49)

Oh, he had a prostitution.

D (72:50)

Yeah, I think it was like a $10,000 an hour madam that he got in trouble with.

B (72:55)

Well, yes.

G (72:56)

Alex Earl's stepmom now.

B (72:58)

Oh, wow. Well, and everybody loves this. Is she. Is she like Alex Cooper, where she's

G (73:03)

crass and she's less crass, but she is very party girl, drinking a lot, going out with her friends. She then she went on Dancing with the Stars, and she's kind of settling into more of a normal life. She was dating a football player, and now I think she's single.

B (73:18)

Taylor Kelce's influence spreads.

G (73:20)

Yes. Not Alex Cooper.

B (73:22)

No dumb questions. Tell us what you think of this. You guys seem to love it, so we're gonna probably do it again.

D (73:31)

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