Benny Johnson (15:17)

Backstage, Charlie said I looked like a youth pastor wearing this vest, so I'm going to take it off. You do? How did my mom get in here? Thanks, Dana. Hey, Charlie. How do we know this is a how do we know this is a Republican get out the vote effort and not a Democrat get out the vote effort?

Charlie Kirk (15:44)

So we didn't rehearse this. Probably because it's not during work or something like that. Best guess, if it was during. If it was a Democrat one, It'd be at 2pm Nothing better to do.

Benny Johnson (15:58)

Cause the event's not in a cemetery. Come on, guys, I'm a new dad. I gotta work on my dad jokes, okay? I gotta get the dad jokes. Get the dad jokes.

Charlie Kirk (16:11)

Brilliant, Benny.

Benny Johnson (16:13)

Speaking of people who are making big relationship leaps, someone got engaged today. Charlie. And I'm not supposed to do this. Erica is here. Congratulations to the two couple. They're amazing. Isn't she radiant? Isn't he radiant? Look at this. Look at how happy he is. You ever seen him so happy? This is incredible. Charlie's default expression at the office. Libs those libs, Benny. So everyone's been watching Charlie do incredible work online. The guy is online live for like 10 hours a day. Have you guys been catching a lot of this? It's been incredible. Just a. Just a beast. He has been covering what many won't cover in our corporate media. What you may not see on Fox News these days. Newsmax is great. And I have an opening question for you, Charlie, as someone who has, and I'm telling you guys, you should see the amount of work that he goes to, to put on these podcasts, to put on these lives. What genuinely shocked you about this election?

Charlie Kirk (17:43)

So a couple things, and I wanted to talk about the voter fraud piece of it, because this is so much. It's still happening in front of us and we have people saying that there's no evidence of widespread voter fraud, which is a pathological lie. And how do you even define widespread? Is 1% widespread? Because by any definition, 1% wouldn't be widespread, but 1% would be Donald Trump's president for four more years. And so this idea of widespread voter fraud is the wrong way to frame it. But we have plenty examples of voter fraud. I'll go through a couple dozen right now, but before I do, what stunned me and shocked me though is how ill prepared we were for this, is that we talked about this, we were warned about this, the President talked about this, and it still happened. And there were great people that were poll watchers that tried to prevent this and tried to go, but they were just shut out and they were. They were just kind of ruled out of the process. That was number one. Number two, quite honestly, I'm shocked at how they pulled this off. It was sophisticated, it was well funded, it was deliberate. There was a very. There was almost a system that they were going by. And I'll give you a great example. And this is not an example of voter fraud. It's just rational people asking questions. Okay, Dane County, Wisconsin. Dane County, Wisconsin is where the University of Wisconsin Madison is. Madison, Wisconsin. We are supposed to believe that Joe Biden got 60,000 more votes in Dane County, Wisconsin than Hillary Clinton did in 2016 with moderate population growth, despite UW Madison being mostly closed. We're just supposed to believe that. We're supposed to believe Joe Biden got more votes than, than when the campuses were wide open than Obama did in 2008 and 2012. And I know the Midwest very well. We're all supposed to believe that simultaneously, while Trump did 100,000 votes better in Chicago. So there was no national trend to that. There was no regional trend to that. Instead it was Trump does better in Chicago and yet 60,000 votes more for Joe Biden. And so we already have a whistleblower that came out in Wisconsin. This has happened all across the country. I'm sure a lot of you have seen or experienced. This whistleblower came out in Milwaukee and she, her name is Susan. This got no national attention. This is real voter fraud. This is legitimate. She oversees 20 developmentally disabled patients in downtown Milwaukee. She can't see them because of the Chinese coronavirus and the lockdowns. And the stupidest idea we've done as a country is to lock down our country. We can get in that. That's a different topic for a different time. Happy to talk about that, though. And she started to do her zoom sessions with all of her developmentally disabled patients. These people are being taken advantage of. That's the nicest way I can say it. They're being abused. These are people that have severe dementia. These are people that have, they're, sometimes they've lost all capacity to use muscular function. So they're developmentally disabled and they're 70 plus years old, 80 plus years old. She started to do zoom sessions for them. So how you doing? Blah, blah, blah. Well, I have a problem, Susan. What's that? A guy came in here and I said, I wanted to vote for Trump, but he made me vote for Biden and sign it. Now, why would she make something like that up? She isn't. She's a proud American patriot. Went on local radio, covered in local media. Of course, the activist media doesn't cover that. That's just one example. This is a practice that is called by the New York Times called granny farming. Granny farming is the interception and manipulation of at risk populations in these nursing homes and, and in these elderly home communities. Now, you might say that's not enough to turn an election. First of all, you don't know that we're talking about elections that are only 10 or 12,000 people. So we start talking about a little bit more on the signature side. Couple thousand votes here. We're talking about the margin of defeat or victory in Pennsylvania. Can anyone explain to me while There was a 1,774% voter registration increase for 90 plus year olds in the midst of a pandemic, almost all of whom have never voted before in their life, and almost all of them live together where other people are registered to vote or people who used to be registered to vote are registered. What does that tell you? They're nursing homes. So they're in vertical housing units in Philadelphia or they're in suburban Pittsburgh or wherever. So we're supposed to believe during the Chinese coronavirus, when 90 plus year olds are the most at risk, that's when they bum rush the voter registration rolls. Most of which, by the way, registered online according to records. This is what we're supposed to believe. Instead, it's a lot more logical to believe.

Benny Johnson (22:20)

Granny's on TikTok. Come on, get that granny content.

Charlie Kirk (22:27)

It's much more logical to believe that there were people, part of an organized crime effort to go into these elderly communities, into these nursing homes, when they're completely shut down and there's no supervising, there's no extra eyes on it, and you just go room by room and the data shows that something like that happened. How about the Nevada Native Project? This came out two weeks ago on their face. The Facebook post is still up. This is how cocky these people are. It is a federal law that you cannot pay people to vote. You can't do that. You cannot say, hey, here's $5, please go vote. Nor can you say, here's an auction or a raffle. You can't give any sort of monetary incentive for people to vote. You cannot do that. The Nevada Native Project on their Facebook page, it's still there and people watching on the live stream can check it out. The Federalist wrote a beautiful piece on this where they have video of them and the President tweeted out this video yesterday. You can look at it. Come get your gas card, come get your Visa gift card. Just turn in your ballot. Most of which were behind big Biden Harris buses. While they're wearing Biden Harris masks. Most campuses in the Midwest were completely and totally closed. If not, they were partial out of state students who weren't there. Voter registration at Michigan State university was down 96%. Yet Biden did better in East Lansing than Hillary did in 2016. What would be the explanation for that? Well, the ballots were probably still sent to the campus and someone went and go scoop them up. This is a practice that we coined on our program called ballot laundering. It's the Ozark election. It's as if Marty Byrd was in charge. And it's the same thing. You have dirty money that you need to clean to get into the system. And it was made easier. And you guys probably saw this in Buckhead or all throughout Atlanta because they had these massive ballot drop boxes that you could go just drop your ballots in anonymously and no one knows where they came from, where the proper system would not actually exist. And you can't get held accountable for mail fraud. That's the other interesting thing, because you're not mailing them in, you're submitting them. So the reason we have mail fraud is not because we were really worried about people manipulating the mail system. It was the one way that you could penalize people for committing a crime in the United States postal system. Right. So there you obfuscate then, the mail fraud capacity system. You're wearing a mask. So it's completely anonymized. And if you just do that, for example, in the Fulton area or in the Atlanta metro area, and you're incentivized to do this for 30 days straight because we have voting month now in the state of Georgia, as you well know. And you're not supposed to ballot harvest, but who's actually enforcing that? You do that for 25, 30, 35,000 ballots. You're talking about a margin of victory. And that's just some of the examples that we've been unafraid to talk about in our program.

Benny Johnson (25:12)

It was disgusting. I was watching. I was in an airport, spent a lot of time in airports. Cnn and I was watching. Yes, it's the only place you can find cnn. Have you guys ever been in the airport? And you're like, wah. You know, you're like, you're awesome. Start to like get all watery. And you're like, why? Why? Right? And you're looking up. I was looking up and I was disgusted. I saw CNN broadcasting live a dementia patient actually voting live on CNN. And it was like, Joe Biden cast vote in 2020 election.

Charlie Kirk (25:46)

It's hilarious.

Benny Johnson (25:47)

Thanks. Thanks guys. I'm really, I'm working on it here.

Charlie Kirk (25:55)

Let me tell you. Stop laughing.

Benny Johnson (25:57)

You'll just encourage me.

Charlie Kirk (26:01)

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Benny Johnson (28:18)

to see Charlie as UN Ambassador?

Charlie Kirk (28:22)

That would be, that would be a self hating exercise.

Benny Johnson (28:25)

But

Charlie Kirk (28:27)

if I worked for the United nations, not just a UN ambassador, but if I was a UN person to go investigate the integrity of the elections of Senegal or Botswana where they have a lot of problems with voter fraud, I would raise the alarm. I'd blow the whistle as soon as I start to see that pattern of stuff happen. As soon as I Start to see ballots flying all over the place. They close down voting centers and they say you can't tabulate them. And let's stop fooling ourselves that voter fraud has never happened before in our country. It's baked into the history of our country. Just look at Lyndon Baines Johnson. Ballot box 13, Jim Wells county in Texas against Coke Stevenson. LBJ was running for the primary. He was down by a certain amount. All of a sudden, Jim Wells county that he had in the palm of his hand stopped counting ballots. They found mystery ballot box box 13. 212 were all for LBJ in the same handwriting, one for Koch Stevenson. He ends up becoming the victor. And then later in life, the co conspirator testifies that it was all a fraud. LBJ did this across the entire state. It wasn't just in Jim Wells County. And LBJ told his confidants now in, you know, disclosed journals and papers that this is one of the greatest things that he's most proud of, right? And the Democrat Party has just been copying this model. The 1960 election in Chicago when Mayor Daley worked with Joseph P. Kennedy to get JFK elected against Richard Nixon. Well documented evidence of voter fraud. And so this is not anything new to the scene of American history. What is new, though, is we thought we actually solved this. We thought that we had come up with a system of decentralized elections. And the reason is that mail in voting, even according to Jimmy Carter, comes from this state. Jimmy Carter in an independent commission said mail in voting is the least secure way of voting. Said it's the most open to fraud because you don't know who's filling out the ballot. You don't know where the ballot comes from, where it goes from. And the signature requirements are so incredibly relaxed. And I feel like we're living through some sort of 1984 exercise. Every time I talk about mail in balloting, immediately one of the tech giants comes up with a disclaimer. Learn how mail and balloting is super secure. I'm like, you are social conditioning millions of people, and it's really creepy and dangerous because we know that just rational people. When you have 160 million ballots flying all over the place, you know that people are going to cheat. Not just on the edges. People will cheat a lot if they have the opportunity to.

Benny Johnson (30:42)

Just a show of hands here. When you guys see that kind of stuff on social media, when you see like a big disclaimer under the President's tweet or under Charlie's tweet, as A conservative. Do you go. Do you read it and say, this is probably true?

Charlie Kirk (30:54)

Actually, that's what I said.

Benny Johnson (30:55)

Like, it makes you actually go, wait a second. They're trying to stop me from seeing free speech. I should probably pay attention to that speech. I think it has the opposite effect.

Charlie Kirk (31:03)

The opposite effect to probably pay more

Benny Johnson (31:06)

attention to this tweet, right?

Charlie Kirk (31:07)

Was the one recently, Benny, it came out and study.

Benny Johnson (31:10)

There was a study.

Charlie Kirk (31:10)

No, no, but the USA Today, they said one was missing context. What was the one that they came out and said?

Benny Johnson (31:14)

Oh, that the new White House press secretary was wearing a hammer and sickle on her hat. Did you guys see this photo?

Charlie Kirk (31:21)

Well, that's the.

Benny Johnson (31:22)

The hammer and sick. Let's start really important. The hammer and sickle is a Soviet symbol. That symbol is responsible for at least 60 million deaths. 60 million. A holocaust. And she is smiling, wearing that symbol on and smiling with the Russian ambassador. Yes, Sickening. I mean, it's disgusting. And they went. They impeached Donald Trump for four years.

Charlie Kirk (31:49)

But then USA Today comes out and they say, no, no, the caption is missing, missing context. It was given to her as a gift. I said, wait a second. So all Donald Trump had to do was come out and say, yeah, Vladimir Putin helped me in my election, but it was a gift. And so then all of a sudden, it wouldn't be missing context anymore. Right. I mean, these people and they claim us for Russia collusion. They also another one that came out today, the fact checkers, USA Today came out and they said, well, it's missing context to say that certain mayors and governors are not living by their own orders, like Gavin Newsom at French Laundry or Lori Lightfoot or all these governors that lock down their states and they keep on living a nice life. They say that's missing context because they generally do a good job of following the orders. This is the type of thought reprogramming that's now happening in our country. And I want to dive into that. It's just every time I talk about mail in ballots, how we got here, every time I talk about mail in ballots, it's instantaneous. The tech companies come up and they say, learn about how voting by mail is absolutely secure and totally secure. Here's a test for you. Here's how I know voting by mail is not secure. How many people that are big mail and voting advocates would put $5,000 of your own money in an envelope and mail it to yourself? Let's go test how much you actually trust the U.S. postal Service to yourself. $5,000. Put it in there. You probably won't see that $5,000 again. And you're trying to tell me that your vote also won't be compromised? It could probably not be intercepted. And by the way, there are tens of thousands of people that have contacted us that say still to this day, the Secretary of State's website in their state shows their ballot has still not been counted. Still to this day. And we're. Is anyone here? Their ballot has not been counted. Couple people's hands up. 10 people. Hey, 10 people's ballots not counted. That could help Trump. How many other people you think across the state had their ballot destroyed, ballot intercepted or ballot shredded? That's just in this room. Activist media won't tell you any of that.

Benny Johnson (33:41)

We are here in Georgia, beautiful state. Thank you all for having us. We really appreciate it. We got the center of the political universe right now in Georgia. We're here in Georgia. What egregious activities have you seen in your studies about Georgia specifically that has been going on that should concern everyone in this state?

Charlie Kirk (34:05)

Yeah, we have seen and Matt Brainard did an amazing study of this. Over a thousand people that have suspiciously registered to vote at UPS offices. And I don't know if you saw the study or not that came out yesterday. Again, this is what the Secretary of State's office should be doing. But they're being afraid. Brad Rothensperger is afraid of being called a racist by Stacey Abrams. So he does whatever she wants to do. And now he's like, oh, there's 250 investigations of voter fraud. Like, yeah, that's really a huge help right now in early December. Where were you in early October when they were doing this in the presidential election? Completely worthless. And so, but yes, I mean the ups, the voter registration irregularities, the mail in ballot and also just the inconsistencies. I mean, here's one thing that no one can answer. How is it the president better with black voters everywhere across the country? Except in Fulton county, that's the only place that black voters were like, no, we actually hate you and I hate you more. Okay? And, and if we're supposed to blame that all on Stacey Abrams charisma, like, I'm not buying that. Okay? Like, it's all on Stacey Abrams capacity to communicate. Like, no way. Okay? And they're like, oh, Stacey Abrams did a wonderful job organizing. Like, okay, if your job for, if your term for organizing is trimming around the edges of a voter system and registering people that are dead, deceased and out of state and by the way. Now all of a sudden, they're under these investigations. We're finding out what they've been doing, and it's again, it's kind of like a. It's like a dollar. It's a. You know, it's. What's the expression? A day late and a dollar short. And it's helpful for these runoffs, which we. It's critical that we win. But there was nothing but inaction, especially when we saw the amount of ballots that were flying all over the place that were not even submitted by people. We saw the show of hands of people that said they got ballots they didn't even request.

Benny Johnson (35:48)

How many people here are from Georgia? Can you raise your hand?

Charlie Kirk (35:52)

Well, that's good.

Benny Johnson (35:53)

Okay. How many of you live at UPS mailboxes? There has to be some of you. There's like millions of you registered to a mailbox.

Charlie Kirk (36:01)

He's a dhl. No, I'm kidding.

Benny Johnson (36:04)

How many of you live at gas stations? I mean, that's what's wild. As you watch the data come in, the number of mailboxes, and then they're disguised. Am I wrong? It's a P.O. box, and it's illegal to get a ballot.

Charlie Kirk (36:14)

A P.O.

Benny Johnson (36:14)

box. But then it's disguised. So you know that there's maliciousness behind it because it says apartment or suite number. Someone's going through and thinking about this and disguising it. You know, there's malicious intent behind it because they're attempting to deceive.

Charlie Kirk (36:27)

Yeah. And this is a really important thing to talk about. And again, if we had a federal agency that was serious about investigating this, which, for me, I can't understand, why we sent 13 federal agents to go investigate Bubba Wallace's false claim that there was a noose on his g. But we can't send, I don't know, 13 federal agents. Go just look in one of these aspects. So there's about 20 aspects of voter fraud that can happen, and we use this kind of shortchanged term. But there's voter registration fraud, which is people registering to vote that shouldn't be registering to vote. There's ballot interception fraud, where people that legitimately request ballots and people go around and go, take the ballots away from you, and you're like, where'd my ballot. How many people requested the ballot and didn't get a ballot? Happens all the time. And, like, I didn't request a ballot, and I request a ballot I didn't get. It happens all the time. Other people get too many ballots, and then all of A sudden people don't throw them away properly or people come. Or just go look at the Google search results yourself of hundreds of thousands of people searching into Google in early October. How do I sell a ballot? Huh? I wonder why people would be asking that. That would be a really good thing for the FBI to look into. Don't believe me? Just go look at the Google trends. You can go look at the spike Google of hundreds of thousands of people. And then hilariously, a week later, huge spike in can I go to jail for selling a ballot like hilarious? So I wonder if they actually did. And again, that's not evidence that could be used at a court. But it's also insulting for us that are rational thinkers to just say, shut up and stop looking at that. Right? So you start to put these pieces together, you start to say this. This now warrants an investigation of some sorts. And so there's other parts of ballot fraud, which is the vote tabulation. Who's actually counting the ballots? Not just are they counting them correctly, but are they destroying ballots too? So, for example, are they being more relaxed than accepting absentee ballots? That might be for Biden, but super strict for absentee ballots. That might be for Trump. So they might be having super high standards for signature requirements for Trump voters for some people that are voting by mail, but super relaxed requirements for Biden. And we don't know that because poll watchers were denied access in all of these major voting areas. Another part of voter fraud is the actual tabulation of the machines. And this is another thing where they just tell us, like, sit down and shut up. There's nothing to this. Like, hold on a second. There's legitimate CNN reports where they went and they found that most of smartmatic's labor force is actually from Venezuela. This is a CNN report 10 years ago. And then you have General McInerney coming out about Hammer and Scorecard. Again, I don't know how all those pieces connect, but it's super insulting for those of us that love our country when we are told by our leaders to stop talking about this stuff, Especially when we see something nationally that doesn't make sense. When we see people win House seats that have never won before. When we see Donald Trump win the Rio Grande Valley in Texas, which a Republican has not won since 1906, it is a 70 to 80% Hispanic area. And Trump wins the Rio Grande Valley, he does better with black and Hispanic voters of any Republican since 1960 and better with blacks since Richard Nixon. Wow. There's something to this, right and so all of a sudden you're starting to see this growing trend. It might not be since Richard Nixon. It might have been actually since the 90s. The point is it was historic. It was multi decades since Republicans did that well with blacks. But that's enough to all of a sudden tip the scales. You would think of Georgia, and now we're supposed to believe that, well, it was married suburban women that turn their back on Trump. But CNN exit polls show that Donald Trump won. Married suburban women. And then they say, no, no, it was the youth voters. But all the campuses were closed. We weren't allowed to do any events on campus. We tried to go to some of these Georgia campuses. They wouldn't have us at all. And so at some point, some of this starts to say, where exactly did they make up this 80 million vote collection? There was no rallies, no enthusiasm, no outward support. And we're just supposed to believe that 80 million people went and filled out a ballot or they went into a voting place for that. And so then the other piece of this that I do want to talk about is expanding our horizons. And this kind of very lazy and sloppy thinking that happens sometimes where they're like, don't you know, this doesn't exist. You're not supposed to look at this. How many other things that we now take as true were kind of illegal to the thought police. And I don't mean this in this next example in any way as an insult to Catholics. I don't. But if you would have went to Boston in the 1960s or 70s and said that there were hundreds of priests molesting children and the archdiocese was involved of relocating the priests, paying for their legal bills, covering it up and bribing journalists, you would have been excommunicated from decent society in Boston. But it turned out it wasn't just Boston. It was every city across the country. And it wasn't hundreds of priests. It was thousands of priests. And guess what? That didn't actually come to light until a journalist and his team looked into it called Spotlight in the Boston Globe. And it ended up this massive national scandal that the Catholic Church was involved in. How about another example? I was a Boy Scout of America. I was an Eagle Scout. I was in Boy Scouts of America. And I remember people from bsa. And by the way, BSA has a huge office just right down the street. And BSA used to come into our big regional events and they used to say all these accusations around sexual abuse and all this is false. Don't listen to it. Your Kids are safe with us. Well, 89,000 people came out two weeks ago and said that their kids were abused in the Boy Scouts of America. If you would have said that 10 years ago, you would have been completely dismissed in 2005, in 2010. If three years ago, I would have went up on the stage and I would have said that Jeffrey Epstein and a former president were flying to an island with underage women, you would have all laughed at me and looked at me and been like, what are you talking about? You're a consistent conspiracy theorist now. I'm just saying things that are facts and we act as if we always knew these things. Expand your horizons and entertain new things that maybe someone's lying to you. Maybe there's an effort for this. If I would have told you a decade ago that Atlanta Hartfield International Airport would be the number one place for child sex trafficking in all of North America, you would have said, there's no way that's happening in Atlanta. It was 8 out of 10 of the last years. Atlanta is the headquarters of child sex trafficking, this country. The point is that there's a lot that can happen when sometimes all you have to do is look and investigate. And this idea that it doesn't exist because we tell you is exactly a reason why we should investigate it.

Benny Johnson (42:37)

Good. That's how you get woke right there. Galaxy Brain. You guys know the meme Galaxy Brain. Thank you. Big enough head. It does speak to something kind of insidious. However, if you want to destroy a country as big as America, are you going to do it militarily? Like you're really going to go up against who has either served or has a member of their family who is in service right now. Look at this. That's how you know you're in the South. Look at this. Round of applause. Look at this amazing patriotic group here. How many people are gun owners in this room? Okay. Yeah, we are in Georgia. Yes.

Charlie Kirk (43:22)

Don't vote for John Ossif. Jeez.

Benny Johnson (43:24)

Yeah. My God. Could you imagine those Warnock, could you imagine those skinny, translucent, pasty John Ossoff noodle arms trying to hold an AR15? Could you imagine him trying to shoot one? Okay, I'm my John Ossoff impression. That comes next act. What I'm trying to say is that you don't take over a country like America by doing it militarily. We have enemies abroad. We always have. You are not going to invade this country and destroy. It must be destroyed from within. There's actually an ancient Chinese military proverb you must destroy a country from within. And the way you do that is take out the faith and institutions. It's a very scary thing to ask yourself, but based on what Charlie just told you, the liars, the professional liars that are in our government. I live in Washington D.C. i'm telling you, I've lived there for 10 years. There are people who are paid to lie to you every day. Has your faith in your institutions gone up over the last four years or down? Let's do a show of hands. The FBI down. Okay, how about the corporate media? Do you believe them? More or less? Okay, how about federal law enforcement? The CIA, the, the, the big three letter agencies? Have they gone up or down? Okay, all right. What about your entertainment industry? Hollywood? Better or worse? How about the Grammys? How about like Nicki Minaj? How about like WHOP or whatever? I don't know, like, I'm not going to be Ben Shapiro. I'm not gonna actually. Has it gone up or down? Do you care more or less about the Oscars? Come on. Well, that shows in the rating. Literally. No one watches. Now this is the scary question. What about Congress? Do you care less or more about what Congress does? Do you trust Congress? Do you trust what's going on in nc? Do you guys watch what AOC puts on Instagram? My God, we have a video about that later. The final question. This is the really horrifying one to Charlie's point that you must ask yourself and you have to ask what? Where are we right now? As America has your faith in the electoral institution of our country, the institution that makes us a republic, that is the only thing that must function for us to keep America. America, has your faith over this last election cycle gone up or down? Pretty unanimous. And that's a very scary place to be as Americans. It's something you really have to ask yourself, like, and if you're going to destroy this country, you're gonna, first off, you're gonna take away our institutions that we trust. Defund the police. That's another one, right? That's attempting to take away an institution that we all trust and have faith in. And so you, you must realize the communists and the socialists who want to take over this country is systematic. And it's very scary when they start taking away the things that we agree on. And elections is a big one. It really is like the big daddy of them all. So we are in a terrifying moment.

Charlie Kirk (46:34)

Yeah, we lost faith in the universities a long time ago. At least I hope so. No, you're right. And, Benny, you're onto something really critically important here, because all of a sudden, if you lose faith in how you elect your leaders, and you're going to lose faith in your leaders, which is already lost, and then you're going to lose faith in the country, and then what happens next is really not good. We don't know exactly what happens next, but it'll be some form of disintegration or fracturing, and it's really, really unhealthy for the country. And so here's where I have a huge complaint with some establishment Republicans that are like, don't look into all the voter fraud. This is what really bothers me, is that you're insulting 70 million Americans that feel like they were cheated. And what's the assurance that the next election or elections are going to be verified and going to be proven? And it's also. It's also kind of super insulting to all of you that worked really hard to get Trump elected, that knocked on doors and made phone calls. You're kind of like, I did that for nothing. Should I have been doing something different? Should I have been going collecting ballots or something? Or, you know, teach me, Stacey Abrams, how to cheat.

Benny Johnson (47:36)

Well, first off, you live in a mailbox.

Charlie Kirk (47:39)

Yeah.

Benny Johnson (47:39)

That's your address. A UPS store.

Charlie Kirk (47:41)

And so the country will then go through a sequence of events that will not be good in any way whatsoever. And so I want to talk about this race with Senator Loeffler and Senator Perdue. And then I want to talk a little bit about where I think we're headed, which is a little bit different than socialism. Then I want to do some questions and we can go from there. The first of which, this race, I don't think that it would do any good for anyone to deceive yourself or deceive your friends. That what this election on January 5th is actually about. This is not an offensive vote. It's not. One of the reasons we all love Donald Trump, right, is because he played offense. From the moment he took office, everything was on his terms. We had conversations for the first time about the wall tech censorship, freedom of speech, universities, how the left was actually going after us in the streets. We were having conversations about better trade deals, ending the endless wars. He changed everything. He was an offensive political weapon. We love that about him. Right? They were always reacting to him. Even when they were investigating him, they were impeaching him. He was still setting the tone legislatively, policy wise. He was the one that was like, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, Amy Coney, Barrett, he's the one that got us 200 federal judges and he just limitless praise for that. And so he was always on offense. That is not what this election is about. And I don't think there's any good in trying to mislead what's actually happening here. Defense is sometimes more important than offense. This is a defensive vote. This is not about fooling anybody. That if Joe Biden becomes president, somehow we're going to get through all of these long desired policy goals. That if Joe Biden becomes president, he's going to wake up and he's going to be like, you know what? That wall sounds like a great idea. Let's shut down Planned Parenthood. That we all know that's a bunch of nonsense. What it does ensure though, from a defensive position is all of a sudden Joe Biden's entire cabinet, his nominee portfolio and his legislative agenda changes dramatically. All of a sudden, green New deal stated for D.C. puerto Rico, gun confiscation, Electoral College abolition, all that stuff goes to the backbench. Then the real fight will then be us holding that Republican Congress accountable. No amnesty, no more green card distribution like they're going out of style. Then all of a sudden we'll start fighting on that front. But the first front is this is how do we prevent them from having unified government. And I know that might not be the most exciting thing to go vote for, but no, it should absolutely compel you to go vote for that. In fact, it should make you go knock on tens of thousands of doors and donate money and make phone calls because that should scare you. And it could end the country if they get unified government. If they don't, then all of a sudden it becomes just a messy, typical DC swamp process where there'll be insider deals here and there, but there won't be any massive big Obamacares type deals. There won't be any more Sotomayors or Kagans that are put on the court. Right. All of a sudden it will be what a lot of us find to be less than desirable. Good old D.C. compromise, whatever. Fine, I'll take that. That kind of technocratic pause over AOC and Rashida Tlaib running Washington D.C. they get to 50 votes, the base of their party. This is exactly what will happen. We if Joe Biden gets sworn in and we keep the Senate and we win these two seats, the Democrats will realize they are up against a wall in the U.S. senate and a fired up Republican base that will hold that Republican Senate accountable. The Democrats will then turn to their base. And they'll be like, you did this, aoc Talib Elon, you're the problem. And they will do what human beings always do. They'll fight. It is long overdue. These people hate each other. Pelosi will have slim margins. Our base is going to be fired up and ready for elections in 2022 like I've never seen before. And the Republican Party will be remade in the from this chamber of commerce corporate party to a grassroots people based party of ending endless wars, of protecting our constitutional rights, building the wall, strict immigration, all of this. Like that. And so I don't want to, I will never mislead you guys, you know that. But I think it's your moral obligation. The same way that I was crisscrossing the country for Donald Trump. We knocked on hundreds of thousands of doors, we put up advertising, we gave 100 speeches in 60 days. The same sort of anxiety that I felt before Trump's election, I now feel about this because I know how big this is. If Joe Biden and all the cronies are able to get enough things into place and seat the electors and they get unified government, watch out. And it's this state that can prevent it, and it is this state that can right any wrong that you're currently feeling. You guys have a pressure release valve. I don't. That's why I'm here. You guys have one thing you can do that the rest of the country wishes they could do. You know what that is? Go into an A ballot. But go into a ballot box and stick it to Democrats. They wish the rest of the country just wishes they could do something and they're donating money, doing all these sorts of things. But that's where you guys come in. And for the young people out there, if you want to live in a country that is any semblance of the greatest country ever to exist in the history of the world, you do not want people that are pals with Jeremiah Wright and wanting to take your weapons away. Ossof and Warnock, you guys know the type of mold that they are in. And I know something about Georgia that is not. Those are not Georgian values. They're not in any way whatsoever. And so I want to just make sure, I comment on that. I want to make sure every person out there, and this is my message. Anyone who's saying boycott the vote on January 5, that is a stupid thing to say. Let me be very clear, that is a stupid thing to do, is that you knock on doors, you make phone Calls you suck it up. I don't like them. Too bad. The Republic is above your candidate preference, okay? Because it's not even about the two people that are running. It's about the unified idea that Chuck Schumer will become majority leader with a Nancy Pelosi Congress being run by a Kamala Harris White House. That is reason enough to go suck it up because you don't like a couple candidates, okay? And take it for someone who's been in many months ago. I'm not going to say any specifics enormously critical of certain people that are running. But I'm here for a reason. Because I put all those preferences away and I look at the bigger picture here and that's what we as conservatives have to do at this very moment. While not all of a sudden not forgetting or not talking about the voter integrity fight. I talk about a two front war because we're capable of that. And the last thing I want to say before we get to questions here, I guess we could do it in questions. But the short thing about socialism is that there's an intermediary step. They're going to try to take us before socialism. And we as conservatives must. And I'm going to say this, you know, super tightly and we could talk about this at length. We have to be just as critical against big government as we are against big business. Big business is not on our side. Everybody. They're not these big tech companies, these transnational corporations, they are now in bed with government. They don't represent your values. They're funding the groups that you guys don't like. They are the biggest business, almost monopolistic practices from the Fortune 100 companies is very, very scary what's happening in this country. So we as conservatives need to really start to list what we value. Family creation, individual rights, freedom of speech, being able to live a normal Life. Representing the 100 million people that work with their hands every single day. Representing the muscular class in this country, not just the Zoom and Skype class of people that go live in their 19,000 square foot home in Buckhead and they can open up their laptop and they don't have to go to work every day. They don't have to go wear the mask while they're working at Chipotle or driving the car and they're barely making it. And for them another lockdown would destroy them. But that 19,000 square foot mansion in Buckhead, guess what? The stock market more valuable today than before the lockdown. Their asset portfolio. They're richer than they Ever have. And billionaires are doing great. Normal people are not. The Republican party that we need to fight for and advocate for is a party of normal people. People. A party of welders, carpenters, electricians. A party that Donald Trump is now giving us and saying, what are you going to do with it? Are you going to go back to be the country club party? Are you going to go back to be the party that actually talks seriously about big corporate dominance, immigration, free speech and protecting our country for our generation against forces that wish to demolish it? So we can talk about that in question and answer, but I want to make sure we talk about it. So thank you. So. Did you guys,

Benny Johnson (56:17)

did you guys see the Chuck Schumer, we take the Senate and then we change the world. You guys see that? This is horrifying, right? Like he's talking about Georgia. When you talk about unified. Really quickly before questions. When you guys talk about the unified world that Charlie is talking about, when there is no. When there is only one party rule and that party is socialist, that exists just off our shores. We went at Turning Point usa, We went to Cuba and we were one of the, I mean, hundreds of news outlets go to Cuba and they never show you the real story. They lie to you. They lie to you. This is a place that's swimmable from Miami and the boats only go one way. Right? Right. So just, just, just to show you how scary this is and where we're going, I have for you a question. How many of you know the Bill of Rights? Okay, what is under threat right now? I'm gonna read you a couple, a couple lines from the Bill of Rights. Tell me if you think these things are under threat. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. Have you guys been able to worship freely? Okay, how about abridging freedom of speech? Do you feel like you can speak freely online? Have you ever seen a Charlie Kirk tweet? Like without a, without a button underneath it saying this is disputed Messing context. Okay, how about the second Amendment? Did you guys listen to Joe Biden on the campaign trail? Do you know that he said Beto o' Rourke's going to be my gun czar? Does anybody have high capacity magazines? You're all going to be taxed. For those brandedly.

Charlie Kirk (58:08)

That's illegal.

Benny Johnson (58:09)

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of free state and the right for the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. Do you feel like they're being infringed? Right now in this country. I'm going to skip number three, because I don't think many of you guys house soldiers in your home.

Charlie Kirk (58:21)

There's actually a super interesting philosophical argument, but I can go into that later.

Benny Johnson (58:26)

I'm gonna skip right down to the big one, and then we're gonna take questions. But I just want to.

Charlie Kirk (58:29)

They're totally violating the Third Amendment. But that's a different.

Benny Johnson (58:31)

Well, okay.

Charlie Kirk (58:32)

Every time they spy on you, it is a violation of Third Amendment and the Fourth Amendment.

Benny Johnson (58:37)

I. I go to Charlie's house and there's.

Charlie Kirk (58:39)

He just got British troops all over the place. But it was a real problem because they kept on. The British troops would just walk into people's homes and they would be like, this is ours now. It was a serious problem. It's like a number one complaint that actually started the revolution.

Benny Johnson (58:56)

So if you know, you know who to talk to if you have a British troop in your house. Get out. Get out of the basement.

Charlie Kirk (59:01)

First application of the Third Amendment, I

Benny Johnson (59:03)

think something really important, and I think this should be so crucial during this holiday period. This is so valuable. And I encourage you to go back and read your founding documents anytime you get a chance. Read the Fourth Amendment, please. I pray read the Fourth Amendment. I'm going to read it to you right now. The right of the people to be secure in their persons, homes, papers, and effects against unreasonable searches and seizures shall not be violated. That's right there near the top, right by number two and three and one, saying you are secure in your own home to do as you damn well please. And it's your right as an American living in this country. It's your right to be able to have Thanksgiving and invite over your massive family right to eat. To eat dry turkey. If you have a huge family like mine, my wife is one of 12. It's your right to sing holiday songs as loud as you want to and to drink what you want to and to do what you want to in your home. It says so right there. And if you want to know how terrifying it is to not have that, go to Cuba, where our Airbnb, we did an Airbnb and the government just kicked down the door without a warrant because she didn't like who was inside her home. We were inside Turning Point was inside of her house, and the government kicked down the door and sent us to the embassy and stole our stuff. That's what happens when you don't have a Fourth Amendment. And so if you want to know the reality of what Charlie's Talking about. We've talked so much theoretically at turning point about the things that could happen. It's happening. I just read to you the first four amendments and I can see out in the room every person was nodding along with me, feeling like not if you feel like these are being infringed, every single person. And we're in the south. Okay, like try living in New York. Try living in Manhattan right now where there's literally gestapo Stasi with binoculars. You guys seen these photos? They're sending people with binoculars. Look into your home to see how many people you have over for a party. Oh my God. It's getting real. So I'm a happy guy. I don't like fire and brimstone. I'm telling you guys, be encouraged and be uplifted in your fight. We are fighting along with you, okay? This is a happy, joyous movement because we're here to save the Damn country. Okay?

Charlie Kirk (61:19)

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Benny Johnson (63:44)

Yeah. I mean, clearly there are people incentivized to make this better. And a question I had for Charlie, and ultimately a question that I think is really important for the room and something that I know Charlie has been working on is pushing your elected officials to make voter integrity the issue of the next couple of years. This needs to be a priority. Mandatory voter ID laws, that's important. Voting in person is important. Making sure that there is an audit of the voter rolls. There was a unbelievable article from CNN that said this was such a great election. There was very little fraud. It says, you can see. It's in print. You could see it. They're celebrating how little the fraud was. How much fraud is enough is the question you have to ask. And there are ways to make it where there is no fraud. There's ways to make it transparent where you can see what's going on. It's a great tweet by Kristi Noem. She's a wonderful governor from South Dakota. I don't know if you guys know Krispy. She's great. And she tweeted right afterwards with when we, you know, there's very much a civil war with Republicans about this issue saying, vote in person and vote on a paper ballot. So I can go back, oh, where'd my vote go? Here you go. There it is, right there in the drawer. And that is a wonderful system. And so you need to put. The thing is that you have to push. They're scared of being Called racist. Truth is the biggest fear for any Republican serving in office is being called racist. And so they're scared if they call for voter integrity, that they'll be called racist. But it's a matter of words. I do. Internet content. Words matter so much. And if you talk about enfranchisement and voter integrity, if we craft it like that, if we say that, that that's what we're going for, then that's. That's a winning argument. Here's a good question. If I showed you that there was a candidate in Georgia that was getting illegal votes as a Republican in a very Republican district, that he had manufactured a way to get illegal Republican votes that weren't real, printing them off, stuffing the boxes, would you be upset? Of course you would. Because you're an honorable, moral, decent people. And every one of you, I bet, would say you need to leave office, would call for that Republican, that corrupt Republican, to leave office. You are staining all of us. When you do not deal with honorable, moral or decent people, when you deal with people who embrace infanticide, when you deal with people that put this president through four years of hell, then what else will they do, right? They impeach the president for four straight years. What else are they going to do? Right? And so you can't put it past the realm of possibility. And so that's why we're in the state that we're in. But it all comes with accountability. We can change this from a national level. And, and the tenor of the entire GOP should be about election integrity for the next two years, Election integrity and saving our votes. Because this is a thing. And the final thing. I'm sorry, I know I've ranted here for a second. Final thing. I'm from Iowa, right? Teeny state, small state. Okay. I'm from a small town in Iowa. Shoeyville is the name of the town I am from in Iowa. It's like seven people, right? I literally was. I lived at. Inside of a post office box. Yeah, I know it's tough life for you guys. I'm telling you, it sickens my soul because small towns are the lifeblood of this country. I bet a lot of people here live in small towns or are from small towns. The best Americans are. And in a small town, you have maybe 10,000 people, maybe 5,000 people. I was full of little 5,000 person towns, little hamlets, right? Cute little towns. When you stuff one ballot box in Philadelphia and you stuff that full of 10,000 votes, you've deleted a good hard working American Town deleted them. You've wiped their votes completely off the ledger. When you fraudulently vote through dead people, or however you want to say it. But when you, when you, when you fraudulently vote, you are deleting small town America. You're robbing these little communities that are the fabric of our country of their voice. And it's damn wrong. And that's why I'm so motivated in this battle. So I just want to ask for young adults and students across the country, and especially in Georgia, what can they

Charlie Kirk (68:29)

do to help reelect Senator David Perdue

Benny Johnson (68:33)

and send Kelly loeffer back to D.C.

Charlie Kirk (68:36)

it's part of why we're here. And look, there's a huge push through a lot of these Georgia groups from the outside to try to register everyone in high school. That is just a voting. I don't know if you guys heard about this. That just might be getting to be 18. And I'm all for young people voting. I think that's fine. But I think that we have to now do our job now to get everyone informed about exactly what this choice is all about. And I encourage everyone to be active. We have door knocking we're doing tomorrow. We're going to try to hit 15,000 doors tomorrow for Senator Perdue and Senator Loeffler. We're going to be sending out hundreds of thousands of peer to peer text messages throughout the state. In fact, actually, we might hit a couple million very soon. And I encourage everyone to get involved in any way you possibly can. This thing will be won by shoe leather, by getting engaged, getting involved, which is exactly why we're here. We're here for a very specific reason. Because I don't think that apathy and just, you know, hoping that it's going to go well is the correct posture. With that being said, I would also encourage everyone here to continue to keep the heat on the Secretary of State. And I have to say this peacefully and legally and correctly. All those things I get wrongly accused, people say I'm trying to incite something, that's just not true. But they need to feel the heat that these investigations will merit something. And also when Stacey Abrams and her groups all of a sudden start getting investigated, they're less likely to do the fraud they did last time. They're going to lay down, they're going to be like, I'm not doing this. They're going to. They're going to just back off. And that's a very important thing, where now they're finding real evidence of this. And that is A byproduct of the combined effort and energy of a lot of you that have been sending in emails and phone calls and to your state legislators. And so that's a. I think that both fights are actually connected. It's getting people to vote for Senator Loeffler and for Senator Perdue, but also making sure that the vote tabulation, the mechanism which we do this election, is actually fair. And what I do see is a renewed kind of posture from Republicans in this state to actually really care about that. And a great example for this is who I think is one of the best governors in America. Governor Christine Om is phenomenal, is Governor Ron DeSantis. Governor Ron DeSantis is awesome. He never went through serious lockdowns. Governor Ron DeSantis had his schools wide open. And I'm a resident of Florida, and I voted in Florida, and I voted early. So when I went in to go vote in Sarasota at Sarasota county, and I went in and a guy next to me came in and there just was something not right with the way he was communicating with the election judge. And he said, I want to vote. They said, what's your name? You know, they asked for his id, you know, and they did this whole thing. And they said, well, sir, it looks like you already got a ballot sent to you. And he said, no, I didn't. Kind of like a half denial. I want to vote. Well, they said, sir, according to Florida law, I can't let you vote today because you have a ballot. He started to make a big stick, you know, big stink about it. Election judges held their ground. They're like, we're sorry. You can vote provisionally, but if you vote provisionally and it finds out, we find out that you submitted a ballot, then you could go to jail. Leaves just left, left the building. And what I saw there is voter integrity in real time. What I saw right there is a good conservative Governor Ron DeSantis, who came into office in 2018, the same year as your governor. And you know what he did? He demanded the resignation of Brenda Snipes immediately. Remember Brenda Snipes, who took forever to count those votes in Broward County? He came in and Ron DeSantis, he put in wonderful justices into the Florida Supreme Court. And he got sued over this. But he said, it's now going to be the Florida standard of practices, according to the Florida Board of Elections, you got to have all your ballots in by 9 o' clock Eastern Time. And if you don't, you gotta make an emergency declaration to A judge, why you can't have your ballots in. They got sued all of the same similar Stacey Abrams group said, you're a racist. This will disenfranchise people. Ron DeSantis is like, what else are you going to call me? I ran against Andrew Gillum, who was endorsed by Barack Obama. Like, I've been through it. And they lost all those lawsuits. Ron DeSantis was just held the ground. What ended up happening in Florida, which used to be a competitive battleground, say, this is how I know Georgia was stolen. There's no way you win Florida by four and you lose Georgia. It's like not possible. Okay? Like, no way. And because Florida, I saw the process work in real time in Florida. They have very strict voter. They have very, very strict signatures. And by the way, I did an event in Florida two weeks before the election, an event about this size, and I asked the whole room, who here got sent a ballot they didn't request, not one hand went up. Now, again, that's not scientific, but that's pretty powerful, right? The whole room was just like, nope, didn't get a ballot. Didn't get a ballot. You can get a ballot if you request one. Signature verification is very strict. And then they give you a chance to cure the ballot. And that's a process that was only afforded to mostly Democrats in the state, not to Republicans. The point is this, though, is that there is a blueprint of a neighboring state that knows how to do elections. They don't have these massive urban counting areas. They don't have the Secretary of State giving complaints. It's a strong conservative Ron DeSantis. And Florida, a state that we are always told comes down to hanging chads and 10,000 votes, 15,000 vote margins. What happens when you have a fair and free election? Donald Trump wins by four. That's what happens. And that is what we must fight for in every one of these states, is that Ron DeSantis, if your secretary of state was serious about getting his election sorted out and he wanted to win the trust of us, which I hope he does, he should fly Ron DeSantis and do a press conference saying, I'm now learning from a state who gets it nearby. Teach me Ron DeSantis. Because there's something they're doing in Florida that they're not doing here. Because did you notice by 9 o' clock all the votes were in Florida? It was like all of a sudden, 98% reporting. Meanwhile, Georgia, they're like, this is going to be an all week long, long affair. It's like some sort of Nicaraguan election in the 1970s. It's like we found more ballots in the hills, we found them in the rivers. Stacey Abrams is running over with boxes of ballots. It's so funny. I was doing a live stream the night, the night after the election, till 2:30 in the morning Eastern, we were going super late waiting for the Arizona election results. And according to all available information, with people working the phones, the Georgia Secretary of State was like, yeah, we think we've exhausted all the ballots. And then you remember, you woke up the next morning and they're like this, 28,000 more ballots. And I said, trump's gonna win Georgia if we all of a sudden don't find 28,000 more ballots. It's exactly what LBJ did with ballot box 13 in Jim Wells County. It is the same methodology. You delay the counting, you go find what you need, have a pipe burst, urinal overflow, whatever it takes, right? And then you control the process of which we actually tabulate the votes. The significance of this, though, and what we can do, that's why I'm talking about. It's a dual fight. You keep the pressure on legally and peacefully and lovingly, but you go advocate very hard for Senator Kelly Loeffler and for David Perdue. You knock on doors, you show public support. And one thing that all of you guys can do today, all of you on social media, just say, I'm voting for Kelly, I'm voting for David Perdue. And just tag all your liberal friends and turn off notifications and make them just comment endlessly. Because when they're commenting on your posts, they're not knocking on doors. And that's how we're going to win. So thank you for the great question. We'll take a couple more. Yeah. Okay, so when a leftist friend comes

Benny Johnson (75:54)

up to us and tells us that

Charlie Kirk (75:56)

socialism would be fair and great, what

Benny Johnson (75:57)

are the top couple threatening outcomes from a socialist economy that we can explain to them?

Charlie Kirk (76:02)

I mean, Benny could talk about Cuba, but I mean, I think that we're actually headed for an intermediary phase that's going to be really, really dangerous. And it's not yet socialism. It's going to be a small collection of companies that control everything. And again, we as conservatives must be skeptical of big business and big government, both of it, that we do not like the idea of Google having as much power as they do as we stream this live on YouTube so they could shut us down immediately. And it's not a good thing when the billionaire Class gets dramatically wealthier when normal people get poorer and they can barely survive. Lockdowns are a luxury and a convenience designed for and by the billionaire class. If you're very wealthy, lockdowns are fine. You get everything you had before your portfolio actually goes up. What person actually would do better in a lockdown? I know a company that would deliver packages to you because they built an infrastructure to be able to have two push ordering that saves all of your payment information. You can see why the ruling class actually might want another round of lockdowns. And this leads us also to the Great Reset. Which is exactly why they want to keep our country locked down, which is why we must keep the United States Senate. The Great Reset is from the World Economic Forum. It's from Davos. It is trying to abolish private property, abolish meat, which is just a silly thing. It's actually part of their agenda. Make America no longer the strongest, wealthiest, greatest country in the world. Create a borderless society. And in every form and fashion, I think that we need to understand the consequences, what we're up against. Now you asked specifically what's the best way we can actually counter a socialist. I would, I would kind of put it, and I'd love to have Benny's take on this, I'd kind of put it on them, on their political choices. I would ask them why did they vote for Joe Biden? And I'd actually try to make an ally out of a socialist. I know this sounds weird, but a lot of young socialists actually don't understand why they believe what they believe. They don't. They're the opportunity, not the obstacle. I mean that young socialists are the opportunity, not the obstacle. And there's a lot that again, AOC and Rashida Tlaib, they're just nasty, venomous people. But there's a lot of well meaning young socialists that actually can be easily converted to a couple things we believe in. Because here's why you say, did you vote for Joe Biden? And they probably did. Like, yeah, I did. Why? Joe Biden won 85% of the wealthiest counties in this country. Joe Biden, the wealthiest people wanted Joe Biden to win. The people that were getting special favors and access from government, the people that were getting the inside deals and lobbyists. A great example is this voting for Joe Biden is reinforcing this corporatist standard that you can't have a restaurant open, but somehow you can go eat on a transnational a flight from JFK New York to Los Angeles. Why can I eat on an airplane, but I can't go eat in a restaurant. Epidemiologically, eating on an airplane is way worse. The reason is actually not a double standard hypocrisy. The reason is because United Airlines, Delta headquartered here, and American, they have a huge lobbying budget every year. And they went to Congress and they're like, you better allow us to keep on doing flights because we have a lot of capital exposure. The small businessman around the corner that's been shut down, he doesn't have that same sort of access to lobbyists. So socialists make their crusade on trying to get the worker to fight for rights up against the oppressive employer. I think it's vastly over exaggerated. I think it misrepresents market principles, all these sorts of things, right? However, a lot of young socialists, as they start to learn about economics and they grow, they're actually more the opportunity. But their concern that powerful people are controlling too much in this country is not an illegitimate concern. It isn't. They're actually right. Their application is, let's go give more power to those people by making government bigger that they control. Which is basically the opposite of what we should do. And so that's one piece of advice I'd give Benny. What would you say?

Benny Johnson (79:59)

I had this talk. We filmed Benny on the Block yesterday, and I was out in front of a TJ Maxx because I'm an idiot. And I traveled here in a T shirt and I didn't have a jacket, and. And it was snowing when I got off the plane in Atlanta. So we filmed Betty on the Block. It's a weekly show that we do at Turning Point. And I was out in front of a TJ Maxx, and I just bought my jacket, and it's not the youth group leader vest here. So two employees from TJ Maxx came out and he said, what do you think of socialism? Is Georgia socialist? That's the question I had for the week. Is Georgia a socialist state? And they said, we're not quite sure about socialism. I said, all right. They had their TJ Maxx badges on, right? I said, do you want more or less of your paycheck? And they're like, we make $10 an hour. And again, they were like, really? This was their first jobs, right? They were teenagers. They were so proud of that. And they talked about the horror of watching half their paycheck get deleted every week. And if you ask them if they want to see 75% of their paycheck deleted every week, it's a pretty simple Question. The problem that oftentimes what you run into as a conservative is you don't break it down to the human level. We're so bad at telling stories. We lose to the left so often because we don't tell a good story. And you miss many conservatives or Christians. We follow Christ. And you miss the fact that Christ, when speaking to human beings, spoke in parables. He spoke in stories. He explained the truth of the universe in stories. The justification for living a moral life was explained by Jesus in stories. And we've missed that. We miss that art form as conservatives. We miss art entirely and the communication that comes with it. So I would argue that the best way to convince socialists that what we have here and the capitalist free market economy that has brought more people out of poverty, has raised more people out of extreme poverty in one generation, has provided the most, the richest, wealthiest, most giving economy in the world. You, as Americans, stand and be proud this holiday season. You gave half a trillion dollars out of your back pockets last year in generosity. Americans accounted for half a trillion dollars, over $500 billion in just generous giving. Do you know the next best country is like barely even a billion? Like, it's unbelievable how much generosity and how much good can come out of a society that we have a capitalist and market driven society. And so I would say just like, get down to the human level with them. You know, ask them about their story, the story of those two TJ Maxx employees. Do you want 75%, 90% of your paycheck gone? And they were wildly against that. Right? And they were wildly for less of their paycheck, for more of their paycheck coming to them at $10 an hour. And so if you can convince someone at $10 an hour, who's ringing up my jacket? At TJ Maxx, you can convince anyone. And that's how you start a movement. Tell a good story.

Charlie Kirk (83:17)

Thank you. All right, guys, not in there. Tell me. Last question. This is the last one. Okay. Hi. Hi. So my question is, I live in

Benny Johnson (83:30)

Fulton county and I have an 8

Charlie Kirk (83:32)

year old named Gabriel, and I withdrew him from public school for a lot of reasons.

Benny Johnson (83:38)

But now they have hired an equity

Charlie Kirk (83:40)

officer who, from my understanding, they basically teach critical race theory, 16, 19 project,

Benny Johnson (83:47)

but at the very least, victimhood. So, you know, my son has the opportunity to stay at home and be

Charlie Kirk (83:54)

home schooled by me and all that, but what about all the other kids?

Benny Johnson (83:57)

What do we do about an equity

Charlie Kirk (84:00)

officer coming in and teaching kids basically to be Marxists? It's a Great question. And by the way, you deserve to be applauded for taking your kid out of school for that. So if it's okay, I'd like to walk through Critical Race Theory because I think it'd actually be beneficial to everyone here and BLM Incorporated and all these sorts of different things that have been coming up. So a lot of people in popular life, especially here in the suburbs of Atlanta, have been commenting publicly on issues. They have no idea what they're talking about. I'm talking about the mandatory posting of black squares. I'm talking about this ridiculous lie that America is systemically racist to its bones. I am talking about the bigotry of low expectations. I'm talking about telling young black kids that you are not going to be able to succeed because everything around you is racist. That's immoral. It actually gives people reason to not maybe try as hard to maybe not believe in the system around them. So let's talk about Critical Race Theory. This is really what drives BLM Incorporated. This is what is now infiltrating the public schools of Atlanta. And if we do not do our job to communicate what Critical Race Theory is and the significance and the danger and the perniciousness of it, then it's just a matter of time before states that implement this will turn completely Democrat. Critical Race Theory is a school of thinking that originated from the Frankfurt School by a guy by the name of Herbert Marcuse. I never can say his name right. Herbert Marcuse came to America and started Critical Race Theory. It's this idea of a couple things. Number one, that racism is everywhere. That whether we know it or not, racism is in the air. It's in our bones, it's in our DNA. You heard that recently, that we can never escape racism. This is, of course, completely and totally untrue. We know that there has been significant progress made on racial issues in the sense of the Civil Rights act, equal protection clause, all these sorts of things. We also know this idea that no progress has been made whatsoever is the complete opposite. From the days of Jim Crow and segregation to where we are now. It's complete and total nonsense. In fact, I think it's gone to the actual opposite. I think now we are now taking the racism that once existed in the American south and now weaponizing it against people that looked like the people that used to be the terrorists. I think it's the exact opposite, and I'll get into that in a second. And so the second part of Critical Race Theory is this belief that there are no individuals So I look at you as someone who's uniquely made in the image of God as a human being. I look at everyone that way. For me, I actually think skin color is kind of irrelevant. I think skin color is kind of a distraction. I think that we're actually a lot more complex than the melanin content in our skin. I think we're actually a more decent country and a more decent people when we stop fixating on skin color and start talking about character. If only someone talked about that in our country 50 years ago. So they believe that there are no individuals. So they don't look at you as a human being or as me as a human being. They'll look at you as a member of a group, of a group that's either oppressed or oppressor. So you know how they view this? They view this conversation that we're having right now as me oppressing you. That's how it is. That's what they're teaching kids because I'm a white Anglo Saxon Protestant male and you're a black woman from the south with a child they will stereotype and label. The fact that we're even talking is a reinforcement of all Western tradition. And this is the problem. You and I know. This is how ideas are exchanged. This is how we go to not tearing each other apart. This is how we actually see the humanity in each other. Right? Speech is everything. Aristotle said that we are the speaking beings. There are only two way to govern people. Two ways. You can be by talking and convincing and persuasion or by force. This is another part of critical race theory. They don't believe in free speech at all. Sound familiar? Now they don't want people talking because when people that are talking, like a black woman and a white male, all of a sudden we kind of come to a place of nuance and maybe agreement, like, oh, you're a human being. You're a human being. Awesome. Maybe I really like you when you don't talk. All of a sudden, then the worst impulses of your sinful behavior bubble to the surface. Speech is all we have to get those kind of ideas or differences or sin that we might have away from that. The other part is that it's totalitarian in nature. We saw this in the posting of the black square. You heard the phrase recently, white silence is violence. Have you heard this? That it's not enough that you're. You're speaking out about an issue. The problem is the people that are not speaking out. So is the problem. The problem was the people that didn't post the black square. It wasn't that they posted something like, it's not they posted a white square. It's the people that didn't post the black square. They're the enemy. They're the problem. They must be KKK members because they didn't post the black square. And go look at how good of a person I am because I posted the black square. Don't believe me? Go look at my virtue signaling black square. I'm such a good person. When in reality, it does absolutely nothing to try to advance any of the policy goals or aims that they actually care about. But here's what this is all really, really about. They're trying to destroy something that actually works pretty well, and that's called Western civilization. They're trying to destroy something where we value people as individuals. You can make good choices and succeed. We look at people based on character, not on skin color. Now, some people might say, but, Charlie, it's impossible for people of color to succeed in this country. A bitter lie, a racist lie. For example, one of the richest immigrant groups in our country are Nigerian Americans. Nigerian Americans succeed at such a high level. How could we possibly be systemically racist? Of course it's not the problem. The problem in the black community in particular is that through Lyndon Baines Johnson and a series of policies put forward by the Democrat Party, we subsidized single motherhood, we took fathers out of the black community, we've demonized the police, and over generations, we have created an awful cycle in the inner city of our country. And so what do you do about the equity officer in your school? Right, that was your question. That was the nice, like, first of all, taking your kid out of school is a moral and a heroic thing to do and you deserve to be applauded again for doing it. So, number one, every conservative in the room should help. Now, you're homeschooling, is that right? New homeschooling moms that are doing a lot, help them. If you're retired and you have extra time on your hand, help homeschooling mothers. What do you do about the equity officer? We gotta run for school board and we got to expose what critical race theory is. I'm going to say this as bluntly and as honestly as I can. Critical race theory is, is the most racist thing that is being spread in popular life in America. It is no different than the teaching of the kkk. The teachings of the KKK used to be institutionalized in this state. The state came past those awful chapters in history. Now, liberals went back to their roots. They went back to their Democrat roots. They no longer wear white hoods. They now carry around Nikole Hannah Jones book the 1619 Project and they teach your kid that skin color matters. If you teach kids skin color matters, then all of a sudden kids are going to start believing it. And don't be surprised then when an 8 year old who's white all of a sudden is like, I have white power. And that's not a good thing either. You're going to all of a sudden start to see the hyper racialization of every conversation. When I was growing up in our country, we didn't have that. 8, 9, 10 year olds when I was growing up just looked at each other as human beings. Racism is now being taught to our kids, it's now being instructed to our children, which comes to their end goal. They actually don't want racial harmony in this country. They want racial disunity. You know why BLM Incorporated raised billions of dollars? Are you in a predominantly black area where you live? Just curious. It's west Atlanta, so it's like mixed with everybody, but yeah, I would say yes. Has anyone seen Black Lives Matter who raised over $2 billion? Did they come and build a school anytime recently? And in the greater Atlanta area, did they go into the black community of Atlanta and do a job, entrepreneurship center or maybe help people with bills? Of course not. Because that money that went to BLM Incorporated didn't actually ever want to go to the black community. Instead it went to a professional outrage industry. It went to a professional outrage industry that steers protesters from urban area to urban area to misrepresent horrific tragedies of which many of these things are, and then continue to profiteer off of the emotional impulses and the desire to make our country more racially divided. So what we can do is this. You and I together and people out here, the more conversations we have like this, it bothers them, the more we're able to point out exactly what this is. That's how we're going to win. Because there's only one race, the human race. And they hate it when we say that. Thank you so much and God bless you for being here. Thanks so much for listening everybody. If you want to Support us, it's charliekirk.comSupport if you want to get behind the efforts at Turning Point USA, it's tpusa.com and as always, you can email us your questions freedomarliekirk.com thanks so much everybody. God bless.