The ‘Both Sides’ Lie and Banning Sharia Law

Summary

The Charlie Kirk Show — “The ‘Both Sides’ Lie and Banning Sharia Law”

Date: October 16, 2025
Host: Charlie Kirk (appearing via archival clips), Andrew Colvett (Executive Producer)
Guests/Co-hosts: Jack Posobiec, Senator Tommy Tuberville
Main Theme: Exposing the dangers of “both sides” narratives, the rise of left-wing violence, and the movement to ban Sharia law in America, continuing Charlie Kirk’s legacy.

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Episode Overview

This emotionally charged episode reflects on the recent assassination of Charlie Kirk and how his team and allies are determined to carry on his pro-America, anti-left activism. The show exposes what they see as misleading “both sides” rhetoric in American political and media discourse, details a pattern of left-wing violence, and discusses legislative moves to ban Sharia law in the US. Senator Tommy Tuberville joins to honor Charlie’s influence and outline the urgent need to protect American values against foreign influences.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Continuing Charlie Kirk’s Legacy

• Campus Activism: Early enthusiasm to start TPUSA (Turning Point USA) chapters and grow grassroots conservative activism.
• Meaningful Influence: The upcoming JD Vance campus event at Ole Miss is highlighted as part of Charlie’s continuing legacy, with leadership eagerly carrying the torch.
  • Quote [03:09]: “Nobody can replace Charlie. There's nobody who's gonna hold a candle to Charlie.” — Andrew Colvett

2. Courage & Transparency in Politicians

• JD Vance Town Hall: Commended for willingness to take unscripted student questions—unusual among high-level officials.
  • Quote [02:52]: “No, as far as I'm aware...with the logistics, with the security...it’s just a testament to how much Charlie meant to JD and ... to JD's politics.” — Jack Posobiec

3. The Rise of Left-Wing Violence (“Dr. Antifa” Mark Bray & Antifa Debate)

• Mark Bray at Rutgers: Criticized as emblematic of universities tolerating pro-violence leftists while scrutinizing conservative students.
  • Quote [09:25]: “He advocates for a violent world...The second the temperature gets turned up, he flies straight to Spain, absolute coward.” — Andrew Colvett
• Antifa Narratives:
  • Jimmy Kimmel’s claims that Antifa is not a real threat are called out as media cover for leftist violence.
  • Quote [16:19]: “What Jimmy Kimmel is doing...has to keep repeating...‘We are not violent. They are violent.’” – Jack Posobiec

4. Political Intolerance and ‘Both Sides’ Rhetoric

• Fetterman Under Fire:
  • Senator Fetterman criticized for refusing to call conservatives “fascists”—and then targeted by his own party for not toeing the line.
  • Quote [13:07]: “They demand this theological fealty...if you don't say that, they're gonna throw you out of office.” — Jack Posobiec
• Polarization: Explored how moderation is no longer tolerated on the left, with leftists demanding ideological purity.

5. Charlie Kirk’s Alarm on the Spread of Islam in the West

• Sharia Law Ban Proposal: Senator Tuberville shares his legislation aiming to ban Sharia law, continuing Charlie’s campaign against what they see as incompatible foreign influences.
  • Quote [23:40]: “If you don’t assimilate with America...you have no place here. So we need to ban Sharia law.” — Tommy Tuberville
• Charlie’s Warnings: Clips of Charlie warning that Islam is “a fundamentally political ideology that aims to conquer…militarily or demographically.”
  • Quote [34:08]: “You know that conquest is an Islamic value. To submit is literally what Islam means...” — Charlie Kirk

6. The Need to “Save the West”

• Emphasized Charlie’s travel experiences to London and Asia as eye-opening on demographics and societal change, fueling his call to “save the West.”
  • Quote [38:16]: “Charlie’s mantra at the end was, save the West. Save the West, Save the West.” — Andrew Colvett

7. Legislative & Political Dynamics

• Government Shutdown:
  • Tuberville describes budget battles, Democrats seeking extra trillions, and the conflict over healthcare for illegal immigrants versus rural hospital funding.
  • Quote [28:00]: “Democrats don’t like it...now they want to change the narrative. Okay, we want a trillion and a half more...” — Tommy Tuberville
• Schumer’s Dilemma: Fears of being primaried from the left keep Democrats tailing progressive demands.

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• “If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you’re gonna end up miserable. But if the most important thing is doing good, you will end up purposeful.”
  — Charlie Kirk [00:03]

• “Nobody can replace Charlie… as the Bible said, we are unfit to tie the sandals of Charlie, but here we are.”
  — Andrew Colvett [06:18]

• “If the university wants to make an issue of it, they can find out how good our lawyers are.”
  — Jack Posobiec, on defending conservative students at Rutgers [07:39]

• “I know and I love people that voted for President Trump, but they are not fascists, they're not Nazis. They're not trying to destroy the Constitution… We really got to turn the temperature down.”
  — John Fetterman, played by the hosts [13:32]

• “We are not violent. They are violent… as the left wing violence continues throughout this country.”
  — Jack Posobiec [16:19]

• “We need to ban Sharia law, and we need to make sure anything that’s done towards American people... if spoken out against… you don’t deserve to be here.”
  — Tommy Tuberville [23:40]

• “Islam is the sword the left is using to slit the throat of America.”
  — Quoted Charlie tweet [36:52]

• “Charlie’s mantra at the end was, save the West. Save the West, Save the West.”
  — Andrew Colvett [38:16]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [00:03–01:09] — Charlie Kirk intro and his life philosophy
• [01:09–06:18] — JD Vance campus event, Charlie’s influence on current events
• [06:18–09:25] — Left-wing violence in academia (Mark Bray / Antifa)
• [11:28–16:19] — Civil discourse vs. rising intolerance; Fetterman’s case
• [16:19–18:07] — Media denial of left-wing violence; Antifa coverage
• [18:04–21:57] — Senator Tuberville on Charlie’s legacy, events, and activism
• [21:57–25:05] — The campaign to ban Sharia law in the US
• [25:05–29:07] — Budget battles, government shutdown, Democratic party infighting
• [34:08–36:55] — Charlie’s views on Islam and the “conquest” narrative
• [38:16–38:59] — Charlie’s international experience and the “America First” philosophy

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Episode Tone & Atmosphere

The episode is mournful and resolute, rallying listeners to take up activism in the spirit of Charlie Kirk. The discussions are unapologetically conservative, often combative toward leftist politics, and feature pointed critiques of both media and Democratic politicians. Personal anecdotes, doctrinal quotes, and policy-minded debate alternate with memorial tributes and calls to action for the conservative movement.

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Summary

This episode memorializes Charlie Kirk’s activism while doubling down on his core issues: challenging narratives that equate both political sides, exposing left-wing violence and media complicity, and opposing the perceived expansion of Islam and Sharia law in the West. The conversation blends organizing strategy, political critique, and legislative discussion, culminating in calls to defend American values and “save the West.” Notable is the sense of movement-building urgency and the repeated honoring of Charlie's direct (and now, via his legacy, indirect) influence on both young activists and sitting political leaders.

Transcript

[A]

My name is Charlie Kirk. I run the largest pro American student organization in the country, fighting for the future of our republic. My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth. If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're gonna end up miserable. But if the most important thing is doing good, you will end up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody. You gotta stop sending your kids to college. You should get married as young as possible and have as many kids as possible. Go start a Turning Point USA College chapter. Go start a Turning Point USA High School chapter. Go find out how your church can get involved. Sign up and become an activist. I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade. Most important decision I ever made in my life. And I encourage you to do the same. Here I am, Lord.

[B]

Use me.

[A]

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[C]

All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. This is Andrew Colvett, executive producer of this fine show, and I'm joined in studio here in D.C. no, we did not change the set. We are just on location in Washington, D.C. and I'm joined by Jack Posobic.

[B]

What's up, man?

[C]

You know, we're. We're holding it down here in the imperial capital while Blake is on assignment in Italy. I'm just gonna out him right like that.

[B]

I was gonna say we don't usually tell people specifically where they are.

[C]

Well, in this instance, it's just too cool. I have to say it. It is pretty cool. He has a family member that's taken the vows to become a nun. Female family member.

[D]

Super based.

[C]

Which is super based.

[B]

It's actually Blake, isn't it? Blake's joining a nunnery.

[C]

Blake's joining a nunnery. Excellent. There's too many.

[E]

Too many.

[B]

I finally found a place for Blake.

[C]

Too many tripwires in that minefield you just. You just laid for me. So anyways, we are honored to be with you guys. I just have to say we've gotten such a tremendous outpouring of just feedback from our show yesterday that we did from the White House. Truly, truly grateful for all the nice notes and the kind things you guys have said. We had a tremendous show. We had James Blair, who's one of the most powerful people actually, in the administration. People don't realize that, but he's head of, like, political and policy, deputy chief of staff at the White House that we had, of course, JD Vance. We announced that jd, if you guys want to throw this graphic up, JD is going to be speaking on campus with erica Kirk on October 29th at Ole Miss there in Oxford, Mississippi. Going to be an amazing, amazing event. And he's said he's just gonna take questions.

[B]

Has a sitting vice president or president ever done something like this before?

[C]

No, as far as I'm, as far as I'm aware, can't think of anything but the courage that it takes, as you know, essentially the second most powerful man in the world to sit in front of students at a college. There's gonna be like 10,000 people there taking questions for probably like an hour.

[B]

Let's just say the man who's a heartbeat away from the chair, but he's.

[C]

Willing to just do that and take questions. Questions are going to be unscripted. It's going to be. I mean, who does that, right? Even the town halls that they do, you know, on cnn, we can get into aoc, and Bernie did theirs last night.

[B]

But that was all planned.

[C]

It was all planned. And they know which questions are coming. This is going to be completely raw. And he's willing to take hard questions from both the left and the right.

[B]

So take that much time out of his schedule and with the logistics, with the security, with the pre planning that has to go in, I mean that it's just a testament to how much Charlie meant to JD and how big of an impact that Charlie's legacy had, not on only JD as a person, but really on JD's politics. And JD really has told the story that Charlie was the one that really backed him, encouraged him when he was first running for Senate and then eventually where he is now in the Vice presidency.

[C]

Yeah, JD would tell you this as well. He would not be where he is today as the sitting Vice President, United States, because he probably wouldn't have been senator and then he probably wouldn't have had so much backing and support from a lot of people that Charlie helped bring about when he was being considered for Vice president. Charlie really spearheaded that. And then of course, all the efforts, the turning point action that Charlie, that you did, Jack, to get JD in office, to get President Trump in office. So I actually. We've both been doing the media rounds, Jack, and we're in dc, we're in the Imperial Capital. Might as well make use of it. I actually went on the with Dana Perino and Bill Hemmer this morning to talk about the interview that I had with JD Vance yesterday and to just thank him for what a tremendous Human being. He is. And for willing to emulate Charlie's, you know, his style, his mission on campus, to actually take the questions. Play cut243. I just want to give a huge shout out and hat tip to the Vice President. You know, people, I don't know how people imagine this working, but he and Usha have been so just generous and they have been the ones offering to help. They have been the ones saying, hey, we want to make sure that Charlie's legacy lives on. How can we help? What can we do? And I just love that the Vice President wants to honor Charlie by emulating Charlie at these events. You know, yes, he'll give a few minutes of remarks, but he wants to, he wants to interact with the students and people need to understand that part of what made Charlie so amazing is that, yeah, he spoke, but he, he listened. And this is going to give the Vice President opportunity to do just that. So your reaction, Jack?

[B]

No, it's huge. I mean, to have the Vice President sitting, Vice President, United States, a guy who has been spearheading. And look, I was in the room the other day when Marco Rubio and J.D. vance came in, coming, getting off of the call with like the Hamas negotiations and Qatar. And we know that JD Vance has been involved working with Witkoff and the Ukraine, Russia war. And so we're in the middle of a government. There's so many things that are going on in dc.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

That he has on his portfolio and he's going to take all of this time to honor Charlie and by the way, to continue the tour that the left tried to stop.

[C]

Yeah, absolutely. That's exactly right. And JD said in that interview, you know, with me, he said, listen, we're gonna, we're gonna each take a piece of this and that's nobody can replace Charlie. There's nobody who's gonna hold a candle to Charlie. As the Bible said, we are unfit to tie the sandals of Charlie, but here we are and we're, we're, we're attempting to do our best. We miss him, but we're gonna, we're gonna keep, we're gonna hold the torch as best we can and JD's gonna be a big part of that and just so grateful to him. So also, Jack, I played a clip of mine, I'm gonna play a clip of yours. And that is about this, this theme of this rise of left wing violence. I did a town hall with News Nation last night. You did.

[B]

You're going viral right now. I don't know if I'm going viral. Mr.

[D]

Viral.

[B]

Oh, you're definitely, you're definitely going viral.

[C]

Right now in a bad way? Hopefully not.

[B]

Were you viral on the left?

[C]

Yeah, we'll say, well, here's here. But you actually kind of commented on something similar again. Another Fox News hit. But by the way, give it up for real America's Voice and Salem Radio Network that carries this show live every day. And for real America's Voice, that did such great work to set up the shot, the shoot yesterday, the interviews, they did all of that.

[D]

Parker.

[C]

At the White House. At the White House. We're so grateful. And the day before at the Treasury Department.

[B]

Nobody could do it like America's Voice.

[E]

Thank you.

[C]

Thank you to our rad family. So here's Jack Posobic. Yesterday evening, last evening at 262, Mark.

[B]

Bray was denounced by the president of Dartmouth University because of his embrace of violence. All the way back in 2017. He said if you label someone a white supremacist, if you label someone a fascist, then he endorses violence against them. I would just say this to Rutgers. I spoke with Turning Point headquarters earlier tonight. We stand by our chapter. We will defend our chapter. And if the university wants to make an issue of it, they can find out how good our lawyers are.

[C]

All right, so this is a really big story that's been bubbling up and it's kind of hitting a crescendo right now because I'm being asked about it. You're being asked about it.

[E]

It's big.

[C]

Mark Bray at Rutgers University. Tell us about Mark Bray.

[B]

So Mark Bray is Dr. Antifa. This is a guy who, by the way, was run out of Dartmouth years ago, back in 2017 because of his support for violence. And he claims that antifa violence is ethically and morally justified when it is done against people who he decides are white supremacists and fascists. And he wrote a whole book on this in 2017. He wrote op eds about this. He came out, the president of Dartmouth denounced him. Then, of course, Rutgers went and gave him this. And by the way, it's a part time teaching position. I just want to be very clear about that. So he came up and has been spreading this hate and domestic terrorism all throughout his tenure at Rutgers. Well, in the wake of Charlie Kirk's assassination, the Turning Point chapter on campus was saying, look, this guy has been here for all this time. He's spreading violence. Our leader was just taken out. We don't feel safe with him on campus. He's creating a harassing and violent toxic Environment for us. And we would like to see something done about him. They launch a petition, then he flies to Spain on the taxpayer dime.

[C]

I got to chime in on this, like the flying to Spain part. So this is a guy who advocates for preemptive violence to take down fascists, to kill fascists. What is a fascist? A fascist to him is a conservative. So he advocates for a violent world, for us to exist amidst the violence, political violence. The second the temperature gets turned up on him, just a little, not that we condone any form of violence, but this guy gets a little bit of heat on him and he flies straight to Spain, absolute coward. He cannot exist in the world that which he advocates for. And then, you know, he's taking a vacation. These kids are meanwhile getting doxed on campus. The university is launching an investigation on the kids.

[D]

Not him. Not him.

[C]

Not on the violence that he advocates for, but on him.

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[C]

So, yes, I went to this town hall last night. Fetterman is actually the one that's going most viral. John Fetterman. Because he said, I'm not going to call conservatives fascists, right? So Fetterman is striking this civil tone. It was supposed to be this very civil debate. Chris Cuomo had reached out, asked me to be a part of it. I said, sure, I'm gonna be in town. Let's do it. I'm happy to do a civil debate, a conversation. So I go there I'm backstage and you've got Jim Jordan, you got Ro Khanna, Stephen a. Smith, Bill O'Reilly, Chris Cuomo. They're all having these very nice.

[B]

This is over at the Kennedy center.

[C]

At the Kennedy center last night. They're all having these very nice conversations. It's all very civil, it's very chill. And then all of a sudden, my segment comes up and they put me with this Midas touch kid, Midas toucher put. He puts the mock and mockler. And we talked backstage. He was very nice. And, you know, I was like, okay, we'll talk about new media. We'll talk about the importance of that and what's Turning Point doing. I thought it was going to be just like this. This kid comes in and he's like, you need to disavow these young Republicans from New York. I mean, it came at me real, real hot. Real hot. I had no idea that I was walking into that situation.

[B]

Wait, can I just say, by the way, on the Fetterman piece. So Fetterman comes out, he says, I'm not going to call conservatives fascists.

[E]

Right.

[B]

That was the big thing last night. What do we see in Axios this morning? The Democrats are now moving to oust Fetterman. They're going to primary him in Pennsylvania.

[C]

Oh, my goodness. So you are no longer allowed to live civilly with your political opponents.

[B]

Yeah. And by the way, he is a 93% Democrat voting record. So like, like he votes with the Democrats all the time on every single issue.

[C]

It's not good enough.

[B]

But it's not good enough because he won't call Republic. And this shows you. I'm sorry, but like we're on Charlie show, right? This shows you the mindset and the ecosystem that leads to a heinous act like this because they demand this theological fealty to. You must say the words. You must say the words. And if you don't say that, then they're going to throw you out of office.

[C]

Well, let's. Since we're on Fetterman, let's play that clip.

[D]

270.

[C]

I knew. I know, and I love people that voted for President Trump, but they are not fascists, they're not Nazis. They're not trying to destroy the Constitution, those things. We really got to turn the temperature down. And for that, he's getting basically primaried by his own party.

[E]

Right.

[B]

And politically speaking. So, I mean, obviously we're both from Pennsylvania. So Trump wins Pennsylvania, but then Fetterman also Pennsylvania. So he's in this same Boat with like Whitmer, Josh Shapiro, a number of people who are Democrat, Bill Evers in Wisconsin, who are representing states as Democrats in places where Trump won. You see this also with Jon Ossoff in Georgia, of course in Arizona as well, which Charlie, of course is very close to.

[D]

Yep.

[C]

And this is a perfect example of this clip I'm about to play from Jimmy Kimmel of the current state of the Democrat Party. This guy is still lying.

[E]

He.

[C]

He almost lost his job. As a matter of fact. He probably will, let's be honest. Because his ratings are falling off a cliff. And he's.

[B]

Because he's awful. Not because of government, because he's awful.

[C]

He's not funny. His ratings are falling off a cliff. He's gonna. His show will die the way it's supposed to die, which is because it's too expensive and it's unsuccessful. So that's fine. But meanwhile, despite getting a pretty stern slap on the wrist. We'll call it a slap on the wrist. That's about what it was. He's still out there saying antifa is not real and that Trump supporters are domestic terrorists. And if you want to know why conservatives are getting so upset about the rise of left wing violence, it's because of this rhetoric. That is it put this sheer sheen of respectability because it shows up on the nightly news or it shows up on late night talk shows.

[F]

275Antifa is just short for anti fascist. It's not a club you can join. There are no membership dues. But they have matching signs. Okay, well, I guess we better round up these domestic terrorists too. They look pretty matching to me. Listen, I'm gonna tell you this. Spread it around. There's no chaos in Portland. None. There is no chaos in Chicago. There was no chaos in Los Angeles. They're pretending there's chaos as a pretense for a military takeover.

[C]

I find this highly offensive on so many levels and to the point that maybe I might just throw to you, Jack. But I will say this. There is chaos in Portland and Chicago. Go try living in the south side. Go try working at a federal ice fac. Go try being a journalist and covering the events without getting a black eye or getting a liquid cement milkshake thrown at your head. So yeah, by the way, the whole point of Antifa, Jack, and you know this better than anybody, is that it is intentionally decentralized. It is intentionally. This amorphous, flexible, loose network of left wing militants, right?

[B]

And they certainly do have tactical flow. We know there's financiers we know there's the rest of it, but what Jimmy Kimmel is doing, remember this is playing towards that slim base that he still has left. And he has to keep repeating like recursive thoughts over and over again. We are not violent. They are violent. We are not violent. As. As, and I hate to say it, but as the left wing violence continues throughout this country. Just had bloody September. Who knows what'll be next?

[C]

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[B]

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[C]

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[C]

I'm told that we have the great coach, Tommy Tuberville on the line. Coach, welcome to the show.

[E]

Hey, Andrew, how you doing? How's it going?

[C]

I'm doing all right, coach. Thank you so much. And I want to start this. By the way, I'm also joined by Jack Posobec. Coach, this is your first time joining the show, so. Since everything happened. So I want to start there. There's a lot we need to get to, but let's start there. Charlie loved you, coach. He believed in you. He knew you were one of the fighters in Washington. Now you're working on a gubernatorial campaign in the great state of Alabama. But maybe just start there. Reflect on what this month has meant to you and kind of where you're at.

[E]

Yeah, I met Charlie six, seven years ago. He helped me in my campaign for the senate seat. And we got to be good friends. I saw him at the White House a couple of times during the campaign. And just over the last year since President Trump got elected, he and I were, were put on the Air Force, basically the Academy board and to try to work with Air Force Academy to try to help our young leaders of the future. And Charlie and I had several conversations and we were really outspoken. A lot of things that need to be changed. And again, Charlie was, he was one of a kind and you always enjoy talking to him because you'd always learn something. I learned something a long time ago. You speak a third of the time, you listen two thirds of the time. And if I could have listened all day to Charlie. But it's a, it's a shame of what's happened. Seemed like this yesterday. But his memory will go on and his teachings because he did so much for young kids. I spent my life on college campuses and Lord have mercy, how much we needed somebody like Charlie. And now Erica and you guys and everybody on board going in that direction. We have to continue that ministry on college campuses. That's where it starts. That's where we're going to change our country. And Charlie was on the right track.

[C]

Well, and Coach, I just have to say thank you on behalf of everybody at Turning Point USA for joining us on November 5th. An upcoming event, Campus Stop, is going to be huge with alongside Eric Trump, Lara Trump and Benny Johnson on November 5th. I think we've got that graphic, guys, if you can throw it up, you are going to be helping us kick that event off in November 5th at Auburn University, a place you know just a little bit about. Coach, maybe tell us why you felt like you needed to be a part of this.

[E]

Well, first of all, we'd working on this with Charlie before he lost his life and he wanted to come to Auburn. We were working out the details and obviously now things have changed, but it hadn't changed in the fact that we're still going to bring his thoughts and memory to Auburn. My understanding is it's going to be a hard ticket to get. We've got a lot of great Americans on that campus that, that really love Charlie and want to continue on. And again, you hate to say this, but things have really even multiplied even after what happened to Charlie. But again, his memory is coming to Auburn again. We've got a great group of Benny and Laura and Eric. Look forward to seeing them. I'll actually leave dc, come back, fly back just to that. I live only three or four blocks from the campus, so I'm looking forward to Turning Point coming to Auburn. And, and sharing a lot of thoughts about, about the future of Turning Point. And of course, Eric and Laura come in there. They'll, they'll bring a lot of other insight. Benny also. But I'm just looking forward to be around college kids again and having a chance and opportunity to, to kick something off that I think is going to be pretty special on the, in the Auburn area and the Auburn arena around, you know, 10,000 people or so that will grab a hold and keep this thing going.

[C]

Well, God bless you for it. And you know, Erica Kirk has been a stalwart. She has been very firm. We are going to 10x turning point. We are going to grow the movement that Charlie started and that his death has ushered in this groundswell of enthusiasm and patriotism. We're committed to it. It's a sacred duty. And it's folks like you throwing in and pitching in and making sure that your influence is heard that kids get to hear from you directly. That makes me very, very confident that we are going to take the baton from Charlie and run with it as best we can. But God's going to bless it. I truly believe it. And so thank you for making the time, Senator. It's a huge blessing to us. Now, something else you and Charlie shared, and I've mentioned this on the show before, is that towards the end of his life, Charlie, probably more than any other issue, raised the alarm bells about the rise of Islam in the West. Obviously he had just visited London and the uk, saw it up close and personal, realized half the TV channels were in a different language, mostly Middle Eastern languages, I think that's safe to say. And it really disturbed him. And then we saw these different communities within the United States trying to put together Muslim centric cultures and sort of, you know, having mosques and having an HOA that was basically paying towards a mosque in Epic City, I think is what they called it in Texas. But there's other examples. Dearborn, Michigan, there's a rising tide of Islam in the West. And Coach, you are introducing legislation to ban Sharia law in the United States. Tell us about it.

[E]

Well, first of all, this is a great country, greatest country ever on the face of the earth. We have freedoms, we have a constitution. And you have the right to come here and be a part of this country. The thing that you don't have the right to do is to attack our Constitution. Other religions speak out against America, speak out against Americans. Death to America. That's wrong. Sharia law is not going to fit here. It got no chance, Charlie. And I had talked. Talked about this recently before his death, and he was starting on that campaign. I'm going to continue that campaign in his name because we have a great country, but we can't. If you don't assimilate with America and love our flag and love our people and put, Put your foot forward to help make this country greater instead of downgrade it, you have no place here. So we need to ban Sharia law, and we need to make sure that anything that's done towards American people, if spoken out against, I don't care what it is, if you speak out against this country, and right now it's mostly comes from radical Islamist, then you don't. You don't deserve to be here. So it's time to make a stand. Charlie started it. We're going to continue on with it, and we're going to stand up for what we believe in, and that's the greatest country on the face of the earth.

[C]

Well said, sir. Well said, Jack.

[B]

Well, Coach, I want to say thank you so much for coming on, and I know Charlie shared so many of the values that you fight for, so many of the values that it seems that as a country we seem to have forgotten about many times. And unfortunately, one of those values is the idea of being civil. And Andrew and I have been sitting here talking today and really for the past month about the violence that we've seen come from these elements on, on the far left. And Coach, what is it that. That that drives them to be so directly violent? And you have your. Your colleague, John Fetterman. He came out last night and he's on this panel with Andrew and says, well, I don't think we should call Republicans fascists. And we wake up this morning and Democrats are trying to primary him out of office in Pennsylvania.

[E]

Yeah. John is one of the few that speaks out for America on the Democratic side. Right now, they are just moving in the direction of socialism and, and fascism and communism. You name it. They're trying to do it because they want power. They don't want anything better for our country. They want. They want people to join their cause, to tear our country down and make something different than what it is, what it was and how it was built. We've made it 250, almost 250 years. We'll celebrate that next year. And constitutional republics and any kind of democracy never really lasts past that point. And so we have other people that want to change us to what they are. Europe is gone. They've lost it. The immigration system in Europe has And Most, I'd say 90% of the countries has overtaken them. I don't know where they can regain it, but they want the Big Apple, okay? They want the United States of America. And we better wake up and smell the roses. The thing that Charlie was speaking about and let people know that this is not a socialist country. This is not a country that's taken over by a certain religion. We have a set of rules. We have a game plan. It's called the American Constitution. And we're not going to change that. And we'll fight for it. We have before. And if we have to fight for it here, we'll fight for it here. But we are going to let our kids and grandkids have what we've all had to grow in the future of the greatest country ever.

[C]

Well said, sir. We, you know, we. I've commented on this that I did not feel, I didn't even really internalize the fact that there was a government shutdown going on. This is something that you are actively involved in being a part of the Senate. I got to D.C. and it's like, oh, I can feel the shutdown here. This is like the one place where you can feel it. I understand that eventually some of these paychecks for our servicemen might get held out, but luckily we found a stopgap for that in the short term. Tell us about the shutdown. Are you optimistic it's going to end soon or the Democrats just going to, you know, be, not be moved, not be budged in this fight for health care, for, I don't know, illegals?

[E]

Yeah. Well, here's, here's what you got to understand. It's the craziest thing I've ever been around, and I've been around a lot of crazy stuff in the last five years in the Biden administration. And now, thank goodness President Trump got elected. But this is the budget that we've had for the last four years, and every Democrat has voted for it. Now all of a sudden, President Trump is not in office. He's trying to make changes. He's trying to get his head above water in terms of what the Biden administration did to our country. Executive and executive branch. So he's trying, he's doing everything he possibly can. The problem is the Democrats don't like it. And so now they want to change the narrative. Okay, we want a trillion and a half more dollars in this budget. Wait a minute. We're spending 2 trillion more than American taxpayers send already were. 2 million, 2 trillion over. Over the budget. And so we really need to cut it not be. They want to add a trillion and a half. They want 50 billion for illegal aliens health, health care insurance and they want to take away the, the $50 billion that was in one big, big beautiful field that will take care of rural hospitals. We cannot do that. It is needed all across this country.

[G]

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[A]

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[C]

So continue on. You're talking, I mean this is the central dynamic, the conflict that's happening right now in Washington. They want one point, you say $1.3 trillion of additional spending for health care for illegals, able bodied men and women, etc.

[E]

Yeah. And take care of the health care that's going to rural hospitals, which is there's nothing more needed. Our health care. Obamacare ruined our health care system in this country. It was supposed to make it more affordable. More doctors, more nurses, more hospitals. It's done just the opposite is destroyed our health care system. So they've got a subsidy in there that was put in for Covid which was fine. We might have needed it, but we don't need it anymore. It's made, it's made things more difficult for the American people. And so premiums are going to go up anyway because of inflation. But they're blaming the premiums that are going up on health care, on our insurance policies, on Republicans voting against this, that, that, that's not, not the case. So here's what's going to happen. I don't know whether we'll open it up again, but we're going to have to have the same conversation in December. And so four or five weeks from now and, or the end of November. And so the Democrats have lost their mind. If they don't want to pass it, that's fine. President Trump is going through the bloated government in Washington D.C. he is furloughing and firing people that don't have a, don't have anything to do now. They got a job making 175,000 sometimes, most time they work from home. He is getting a correction that we have desperately needed in Washington D.C. so.

[C]

Coach, what is your message? I mean, because we understand that there's this fight over the $1.3 trillion in health care for working men and women, as they like to say, but it's actually way, way more sinister than that because a lot of these are illegals. But what's your message? Because we know there's actually just a political calculus at play here. Chuck Schumer's worried about his left flank. He took a lot of incoming from his own party when he went with the CR last time. He's worried about AOC primarying him. She was on a town hall with Bernie Sanders last night on CNN with Kaitlan Collins. We know that there's just, there's just pure partisan politics at play here with Democrats and they don't want to budge. What's your message to them?

[E]

Well, they don't care about the American people. They're worried more about politics, power. Schumer, as you said, he voted for the cr. He really didn't want to back in the spring. President Trump's first crime, he voted for it. And he took a shellacking from the AOCs, the far left progressives of the Democratic Party. And so he knows this time if he votes for it, he's dead meat. He will not be back in the Senate after next year, run against him and beat him. So that's his problem. Yep.

[C]

No, I agree with you, Coach. And he's got a heck of a, heck of a party to try and wrangle in. I mean, we sometimes joke that the conservative movement is a bunch of raucous, independent minded, hard to control people, but I actually think that the divide between sort of these moderate old school Democrats and the new left might be even more Dramatic. I mean, you know, to put a finer point on what we talked about earlier, Jack, it's the left wing of the Democrat party, that Democrat Socials of America communist that is actually advocating for political violence. Coach, we are so honored to have you again. I know what a. How much faith Charlie put in you, how much belief he had and we, we wish you all the best in your gubernatorial run in the great state of Alabama. And we will be seeing you in Auburn in just a few weeks.

[E]

Thank you. Look forward to seeing you guys. Talk to you soon.

[C]

Absolutely. Thank you, coach.

[B]

Thank you.

[C]

I want to play a couple clips of Charlie talking about Glom because he really was hammering this day in and day out.

[E]

Based.

[C]

Based. Let's go ahead and play. 253 How Islam is a conquering religion.

[A]

253 for anyone that has eyes to see and ears to hear and actually reads the cadiz and reads parts of the Quran. You know that conquest is an Islamic value. To submit is literally what Islam means to make those submit. It's very hard to get serious Muslims to admit to this, that they actually do want conquest, that they do want to take over.

[C]

Jack. I mean ultimately that is what we're seeing kind of play out in places like London and now New York. And we have the debate, huge debate that's going to be taking place tonight between Andrew Cuomo Sliwa and Mamdani.

[B]

Mamdani. And so tonight in lieu of thought crime or you know, we're still doing the thought crime show but it's actually going to be as Charlie would have wanted, by the way, a debate watch and then a debate reaction show. So I want everyone to tune in this evening. I think the debate starts 7pm Eastern so you don't need to worry about going to some other channel. We will be streaming the program tonight on Charlie Kirk on the, on the Charlie Kirk platforms, platforms and all the platforms. And then we'll be coming on afterwards. Andrew, actually you're gonna be.

[C]

I gotta catch the flight but I'll do the pre show and I'll watch part of the debate and then you guys are going to take it from there.

[B]

Yeah, we'll get. We'll get. And Blake's on assignment so we'll get. We'll get Tyler, myself, Cliff Maloney and I want to get Mikey. Yeah, we had him. We had him last week on thought crime and he's great.

[C]

Mikey's gonna be on the show tomorrow for our AMA. So please join members.charliekirk.com become a member and help us in this time but also get to take part in our AMAs. That's the only way you get to talk to Mikey.

[B]

That's the only way to call in is at a member.

[C]

Yeah, exactly.

[B]

Well there you go.

[C]

So. And you get to talk to Mikey which is, you know, who wouldn't want.

[B]

To talk to Mikey?

[C]

I mean it's a big deal. So yeah, listen, you know, look at this. You see. Go ahead and throw up. Image 278. This is from July 7th. The conservative movement needs to focus more time, energy and focus on how Islam is rapidly taking over the West. That's a Charlie tweet. 278 we could go to another one. 279 which year is that?

[B]

That's this year.

[C]

This year and September 3rd. This is seven days before you hear a lot of pundits fear monger about the rise of Christian nationalism right in front of their eyes. Islam is taking over public places and gaining political power. Islam is a fundamentally political ideology that aims to conquer US military militarily or demographically. This is absolutely right. 277. Islam is the sword the left is using to slit the throat of America. It's a really tragic one.

[B]

Can I just say that.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

That was September 9th.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

I mean here's. Here's August 7th. Mass import. Islam destroy America. It's that simple. Charlie was. Was raising the alarm bell. He was raising. He was being as loud as he could about this issue. And I will not forget it.

[B]

You know what it was is because he went to Oxford and Cambridge because he was over there in London and he saw it with his own eyes. That was one. Not the last foreign trip, but one of the last big trips that he did outside of the country. And he came back and the very first thing he did was identify what the problem was. And he just boiled it down to its. Down to its bones, down to its very DNA as only Charlie could do and said guys, they're ahead of us, but we're on the same path. We're on the very same path with Islam. And then he was over there seeing what was happening. Obviously he saw how bad the infiltration on campus was, but he saw it around the cities as well. And we saw of course the huge rally for Tommy Robinson which had already been pre scheduled the same week that Charlie was killed. And that that was very much a repudiation of the mass migration of Islam and third worlders into London. And then. And then because Charlie was murdered three days prior. I think I have the dates right. There. It just became this connection of Charlie and Christianity and Western civilization sort of all mixed together.

[C]

Charlie's mantra at the end was, save the West. Save the West, Save the West. And I think he. He had wanted to travel internationally in 2023, 2024, but he said, america first. We're going to stay domestic. We're going to stay focused here at home. We win the election. And he finally allowed himself to schedule a few trips. And so of course, he went to London, but then he went to Korea, South Korea, and Japan as well. I'm so glad he got to do that. I'm so grateful, because he really liked it. Yeah, he actually liked it. He loved how clean it was. And he was reminded that we don't have to live this way. We do not have to live with crime and filth.

[B]

I mean, it's optional.

[C]

And, yeah, it's. It's all about political will. We learn this with the border and so many other things.

[B]

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