The Charlie Kirk Show – Episode Summary

Episode Title: The Charlie Revival is Underway — Are You In or Out?

Date: October 24, 2025
Host: Charlie Kirk
Guests: Robby Starbuck, Jack Posobiec, Megan Basham

Overview

This episode of The Charlie Kirk Show explores the intersection of technology, politics, and faith in contemporary American culture. Following the assassination of Charlie Kirk—a leading conservative activist and outspoken Christian—the episode focuses on three primary themes:

1. AI Defamation and Tech Bias: Robby Starbuck's lawsuit against Google for allegedly slanderous AI-generated content and broader concerns about technological bias targeting conservatives.
2. Mainstreaming Left-Wing Violence: Discussion of escalating left-wing rhetoric and violence against conservatives, traced historically and present in modern protest language.
3. Evangelical Response to Charlie Kirk's Legacy: Critique of mainstream evangelical organizations for historically shunning Charlie Kirk due to his political stances, and reflections on the spiritual revival sparked by his martyrdom.

Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Robby Starbuck’s Lawsuit Against Google (01:09–10:11)

• Background of Lawsuit:

  • Robby Starbuck describes how Google’s AI (first Bard, then Gemini/Gemma) fabricated extreme allegations against him: invented criminal records, therapy and court documents, fake news articles with falsified links and headlines, and associations with the most heinous crimes. (01:42–05:02)
  • The AI cited reputable outlets like Fox News and Daily Wire with fabricated stories, aiming to plausibly launder its lies.

• Tech Bias and Political Targeting:

  • Starbuck and the hosts hypothesize that the AI’s behavior is intentional and politically motivated, reflecting bias within Google’s leadership left unchecked for years. (05:46)
  • Starbuck: "Google's AI says that what it has done is so malicious, so consistent...and the fact that Google hasn't fixed it leads it to believe...Google did this for political reasons." (06:10)

• Broader Implications:

  • Concerns about the weaponization of big tech during elections—malicious AI could swing close races by defaming right-wing candidates.
  • "You could see the balance of power in the country decided by maliciously programmed AI...You could see an election where a bunch of the tightest races see Republican candidates described with fake crimes." – Robby Starbuck (09:02)
  • Safety risk: AI-driven defamation could inspire real-world violence against conservatives (12:25).

2. The Mainstreaming of Political Violence and Left-Wing Rhetoric (13:44–20:26)

• Personal Impact and Safety Concerns:

  • Starbuck discusses FBI investigations into credible threats against him, directly linking online lies to potential offline violence against conservatives and their families.
  • "Natural question—did any of them read about me through Google AI platforms? We don't know." – Robby Starbuck (12:31)

• Examples of Violent Left-Wing Rhetoric:

  • Audio and video clips played of Texas Congressional candidate Jolanda Jones and others, boasting about “coming at your neck” and “wiping out every Republican,” and a protestor making gunshot gestures during rallies (16:24–17:18).

• Historical and Cultural Context:

  • Jack Posobiec explains the phrase "No Kings" derives from the Reign of Terror in the French Revolution—its use by antifa and modern leftist protestors is a deliberate invocation of violence (17:29–19:25).
  • The episode argues media and academic establishments fail to document and denounce these leftist codes, unlike their exhaustive focus on purported right-wing symbolism.

3. Evangelical Establishment’s Response to Charlie Kirk (23:28–41:48)

• Evangelical Hypocrisy:

  • Megan Basham critiques "Big Eva" (big evangelical institutions) for keeping Kirk at arm’s length because of his bold, Trump-supporting conservatism, despite happily platforming left-leaning Christians or outright Democrats.
  • "They were happy to welcome Democratic operatives, but not Charlie...when Charlie was assassinated and people saw so clearly what his record was on evangelizing...that put them in an awkward position.” – Megan Basham (25:27–27:07)

• Aftermath of Charlie's Death:

  • Brief outpourings of support from these institutions were quickly replaced by cautions against learning too much from Kirk’s model, or even thinly veiled rebukes.
  • Pastor Mike Kelsey: “I was shocked that so many professing Christians were rationalizing things that were so demeaning and unchristlike. And not just rationalizing things he said, but idolizing him as the prototype for a new generation of Christians…” (30:17)

• ‘Third Way’ Politics in Evangelicalism:

  • Basham explains the “third way” approach (eschewing explicit left or right alignment) and the dangers of moral equivalence, arguing Kirk’s unapologetic approach exposed the establishment’s failures to confront moral issues and reach young men.
  • “They have failed to pick up that mantle of Billy Graham and evangelize the next generation...They kept Charlie at arm’s length because he showed a different way: a bold Christian witness that said ‘these are my political priorities because I follow Christ’.” – Megan Basham (34:51–35:01)

4. Charlie Kirk’s Ministry Approach and the Hunger for Truth (36:10–41:48)

• Clarity and Truth Over Comfort:

  • Clips play of Charlie Kirk calling young men to the gospel, emphasizing sin and repentance over a sanitized, “feel-good” Christianity.
  • Kirk: “You know why you’re miserable? Because you’re not following God’s laws and commands.” (36:10–37:33)
  • Basham: “He wasn’t afraid to call out their sins, the big evangelical machine’s sins...He kind of boldly called out Biola...For that reason I cannot recommend their school.” (39:51)

• Traditionalism and Spiritual Revival:

  • Posobiec attributes the resurgence in young Catholicism to the unchanging, truth-telling nature of services like the Latin Mass, contrasting them with “lukewarm” modern evangelicalism.
  • “It’s just full on traditional, unchanging biblical doctrine...It’s righteous and true, not lukewarm. And as we know, that which is lukewarm gets spit out.” – Jack Posobiec (37:58–39:24)

• Outreach and Impact:

  • Real-world effects: Megan Basham reports increased interest in church attendance and religious questions from young people following Charlie’s death.

• Challenge to Listeners:

  • Kirk’s death has sparked what is described as a new revival, bypassing traditional religious power centers. The central question: Are you part of the revival, or not?

Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

• On AI Slandering Conservatives
  "This is a committed, elaborate lie where it names victims, evidence like therapy records, police documents, court records, and then it creates fake articles from real media outlets...So it's trying to launder the elaborate lies it tells."
  —Robby Starbuck (04:18)

• Google’s Own AI Admits Political Motivation
  "Google's own artificial intelligence says repeatedly...that there was a political reason for why this is occurring and why it hasn't been fixed."
  —Robby Starbuck (06:10)

• Media Bias in Search Results
  "For some reason Google puts [SPLC] as the very first result, which is an organization that just exists as a smear factory..."
  —Jack Posobiec (07:21)

• Violence Rhetoric from the Left
  "I'm not gonna punch you back in your face. I'm gonna go across your neck. We need to wipe out every Republican..."
  —Jolanda Jones, Congressional Candidate (16:24)

• Historic Context of ‘No Kings’
  "No kings, no lords is specifically derived from the French Revolution...It means beheadings. It is violence and it has always been violence."
  —Jack Posobiec (17:29)

• On Evangelical Leadership’s Double Standard
  "They were happy to welcome Democratic operatives, but were not happy to have Charlie on. And then even further, when Charlie was assassinated, they were put in an awkward position...That put them, I think, in a difficult position."
  —Megan Basham (25:27)

• Charlie Kirk’s Approach to Young People
  "You know why you’re miserable? Because you’re not following God’s laws and commands."
  —Charlie Kirk (36:10)

• Final Challenge
  "The revival that Charlie's martyrdom has sparked will march forward. The question is: Do you want to be a part of it or not?"
  —Host (41:48)

Important Timestamps

• 01:09 – Robby Starbuck interview begins
• 04:18 – Details on AI’s slander campaign
• 06:10 – AI 'admits' political bias
• 09:02 – Potential electoral consequences of tech bias
• 12:25 – Discussion of death threats, personal safety
• 16:24 – Clip: Jolanda Jones’s violent rhetoric
• 17:29 – Historic and modern context of “No Kings”
• 25:27 – Megan Basham discusses Big Eva’s response to Kirk pre- and post-assassination
• 30:17 – Clip: Mike Kelsey’s criticism of Kirk’s elevation as a “prototype”
• 32:23 – Clip: Jackie Hill Perry questions Kirk’s status as a martyr
• 36:10 – Clip: Charlie Kirk on gospel clarity for young men
• 37:58 – Jack Posobiec on the “Trad Cath” revival
• 41:48 – Host’s closing comments and challenge to participate in revival

Tone & Language

• Direct, urgent, and unapologetically conservative
• Emphasis on spiritual warfare, cultural conflict, and personal conviction
• Reflective and reverent when discussing Charlie Kirk's death and legacy
• Occasional humor and camaraderie between guests, especially with Posobiec

For Listeners Who Haven't Heard the Episode

• You’re brought inside a world where faith, politics, and technology are colliding—with significant repercussions for American conservatives.
• The episode centers on both real and digital threats to those who refuse to compromise—tying defamation in the tech world to physical violence and social ostracization.
• The legacy of Charlie Kirk, described as a modern martyr, is presented as a challenge to the “lukewarm” mainstream church and a call to bold activism and unapologetic faith.
• Listeners are encouraged to see themselves as potential participants in a spiritual revival or risk "missing the movement" that Charlie Kirk’s martyrdom has, in the hosts’ eyes, ignited.