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Hey everybody. Today on the Charlie Kirk Show, Robby Starbuck, film producer, director and running for Congress in Tennessee. We have a very important conversation about the future of our party. Email us your questions freedomarliekirk.com if you want to get involved with Turning Point USA, go to tpusa.com and if you want to go to the Young Women's Leadership Summit in Dallas In June, it's tpusa.com ywls what does Oklahoma, Missouri, Kentucky, Nashville, Vegas and San Jose have in common? Answer. I'll be speaking at all those states in the upcoming weeks. Go to tpusa.com genfree that's tpusa.com genfree Robby Starbuck is here. Buckle up. Here we go. Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
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Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.
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I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks. I want to thank Charlie. He's an incredible guy.
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His spirit, his love of this country.
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Done an amazing job building one of
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Thank you. So happy to be here. Big fan of the show.
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Thank you. You're very kind to Say that. And your race is going very well. We were talking beforehand, you're running in Tennessee, you have a thousand volunteers. It's very exciting and I wanna talk about that. But first, can you give us just a little bit of your biography? You've worked in Hollywood, you've worked on these big film projects. And then I wanna go into something we were also just talking about, which was about how these projects actually target young people. So tell us a little bit about yourself.
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Absolutely. So my initial background is as a director in Hollywood. I've directed stars like Natalie Portman, Snoop Dogg, Smashing Pumpkins, Gucci Mane, Megan Fox, the list goes on and on. It's tons. Very, very diverse sort of group of people I've directed. And yeah, that's essentially it. And coming from a background, my family came from Cuba. I knew in 2015 I had to stand up and do something and use the platform. I had to endorse Trump and I did it and they hated me for it. But I have never been happier. I did it because I saw the same train coming. This already stole everything from my family in Cuba. So I see that same train coming and I, I have to do something. And that's why I'm running for Congress now.
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I love it. So talk about how the moral degeneracy. Quite honestly, I can't even watch the Grammys. I saw a clip of it. I said, this is terrible. I mean, this deserves to be on a restricted website if anywhere. It doesn't deserve to be anywhere, but not on network television of Cardi B. Who's a talentless hack and she's not a smart person and she's not a good person either. Basically being a predator to our young women, saying this is how you should act as a stripper. What are your thoughts on that? Is the content built for that? Do they know they're communicating to young people or is this just something they don't quite realize?
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They don't just know that they're doing it, they're designing everything they do around targeting kids in that age range of about 12 to 16. And to go a step further with it, people like Cardi B, they intrinsically themselves, personally know what they're doing. And you know, I have to ask people, if a man, you know, just some random guy off the street, he made a video that was similar to the WAP video or to what we saw on stage at the Grammys last night, and he showed that to 13 year old girls, where would he be right now? He'd be in prison. He'd be in prison because indecent exposure to a minor, and he would clearly be grooming behavior. But when somebody like Cardi B does it or a major record label does it, it's not, it's, it's not suddenly for some reason, you know, it just seems like you, you, you have all these hypocritical things where they're allowed to do things that everybody else isn't allowed to do. Like at the Grammys last night, they had all these stars on the red carpet, not wearing masks, hugging and touching each other, while at the same time in Burbank, at the same time, they were turning off the electricity of a small business because they dared to stay open under these tyrannical rules that California has set. But those rules do not apply to the aristocracy. They only apply to the peasants. And that's what Democrats are doing all over the country. They're creating different classes of people, and their class is allowed to do whatever they want, while the people, the real Americans are not allowed to do almost anything without the, you know, the firms sort of like, yes, you can from Democrats. They need that to be able to do anything now. And it's insane.
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That's a great analysis and I want to dive into that. And then I want to ask, what type of Republican are you going to be? Which matters a lot to me and to our listeners, but we'll get to that in a second. I want to focus in on this. So you're trying to tell me that there are Hollywood producers, Hollywood writers, Hollywood editors, What are you going to call them? Directors? However the hierarchy works, that say, you know, what would make us happy or make us more money or our business model, let's get 11 and 12 year olds exposed to something that is basically pornography. Is that right?
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It's essentially their business model is how can we get the most clicks, the most shares, the most views? And that they know, based on the analytics of past videos, is the raunchier you are, the more controversial you are, the more clicks, the more views you get. So they go into it knowing that and they build their concepts around that. And honestly, a lot of directors in Hollywood are partially responsible because they sit there with the labels, they come up with this stuff, and part of how they pitch it is how can this go viral? What is the point of this going to make the media go crazy or make people go crazy and make them share it? What is going to feel like counterculture, where kids will feel like, well, I'm not supposed to be watching this, but I'M watching this. I'm going to share it with my friend who's not supposed to watch it. And they build it around those ideas. So that moral degeneracy is something that is going to have real impacts down the line. We're raising a generation of kids or who are kids, and we don't treat them like it. We treat them like they're adults who are able to take on adult issues. And that is not the case. And I think that's one of the biggest problems is we're completely deleting innocence from childhood.
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Well, the left has always wanted to do that. And hilariously, we're having this robust conversation. Not even a robust conversation like Dr. Seuss is somehow a threat to children. And yet Cardi B.
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Is Seuss is bad, but Lapp is okay. That's where we're at.
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That's right. And Aunt Jemima, Gone with the wind, Mr. Potato Head. We have a whole kind of in memoriam, right? We're adding to it, all of it, you know, just Mr. Potato Head. All of it. And somehow Cardi B. Doing that is perfectly okay. And that's nothing new. We have seen the hypersexualization of Hollywood in recent years. Even on Instagram, there are posts that I can't believe are allowed on that platform. And this is an interesting wrinkle that we don't talk about enough. But you kind of foreshadowed something, Robby, that I want to ask you about. Where does this lead?
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It leads somewhere. Well, I think we see partially right now in universities where it leads. It leads to Marxism. But essentially the most important part of what Democrats have done to get to this point in time and how they plan to get further is subtlety. They started being very subtle about 25 years ago in all forms of media academia. And they would subtly push messages about morality and what was virtuous and moral and what they believed in. And it was always counter to what conservatives believed in, but they did it in sort of subtle ways. So we've gotten to a point now where in the most recent Scooby Doo movie, they're doing this more overtly now, where they give references to people like Ruth Bader Ginsburg as heroes of women's rights, and then they trash toxic masculinity in the movie, and then they give a shout out to Tinder in the movie. And so what kid watching Scooby Doo needs to know about Tinder? That's my question. They don't need to, period. It's done specifically to message to them on political issues that will lean them to, towards the left. And what happens is over time, as they go to school, this is all reflected back to them again. You know, I can give you a clear example. My own daughter, she had a Che Guevara poster in her Spanish classroom and her teacher started to teach kids they should call people Latinx. Okay? They've done polling on this. Even Think Progress did it. Far left organization. 98% of Latino people don't want to be called this, but they insist on pushing these things. And then the kids eventually go to college where all of these subtle points they've had throughout their life were reflected back to them as moral, true and intelligent. And that's the, the key important part is that you're an intelligent person if you believe these things. And obviously we know that's not true. But once that's reflected back to them, they go home hating the values they were raised with. And not only that, we're paying for it. And so if we want that to change, we have to, number one, invest in alternatives and have your kids watching things that reflect your values, not that are undermining you at every turn. Your kids should be watching Charlie Kirk, not wap. And you need to be in control of that. You're the parent, you should be the one making sure that your kids, you know what they're watching and you know what the game is. You know, you have to know what time it is. And a lot of people have lost sight of that, what time it is. And it is a time for bold action and knowing what is going on. And more people need to do that.
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I love that. I have a side question that is related, but I'm just curious, what is Latinx and why do I have to use this phrase? I had a guy that came up to me at this event at North Carolina State and he said, all of my Latinx friends, I said, what are you talking about? I've never heard this phrase. And now it's. I see that in articles. What is just a total sidebar. But seriously, what is it?
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Yeah, so it's, it's a. Well, it's a evidence of lunacy and the fact that we need more mental institutions. But what it really is is these people, they decided that Latino is too gendered. And so you need to have a non gendered term because gender is inherently bad to the left, they. That there should be no difference between men and women, which is complete lunacy. And the more we actually speak up about these things and make it clear to Latino Communities and black communities across America that hey, this is what they're pushing, this is what they want for you. The more successful we're gonna be because they think it's crazy too. We can see that in the polling. But the funny part of it is we already had non gendered terms. We had Latin or Hispanic. You could use these terms pretty interchangeably. We didn't need a new one. The point of it was to change language because linguistics is the name of the game for the left. The more you change language and the more you change the set of things that we've all agreed on as a society, the more you can push for change, you know, the more you stoke those divides where people are questioning what they're willing to accept. And so that's what they do on purpose. They knew there was already a non gendered term that they could use. They didn't care. They wanted to create strife because that's how they get towards the vision that they see, which is Marxist. Divided States of America.
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I was an impressively bad Spanish student in high school. I was just awful. But I even I know that baked into the Spanish language is gender.
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It's all gender, right?
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That's part. They don't want to just change part, they want to change the whole language.
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Yeah, they do. They do want to change the whole language. I've already seen this ruminating in the same way. So Latinx started ruminating about five years ago. Ish where I started seeing it for the first times and hearing about this. And of course it was all white progressives who, you know, they're really regressives. But it was all these people mostly working at universities, they're the ones pushing this. And I was like, this is going to come up, trust me. And at this point, now this last year, a bunch of journalism, you know, their, their books that they put out, they give their rules of how they're going to refer to things. They changed the way that they refer to Latinos to Latinx at all these major, you know, I hate to even call them media journalism because they're not journalists, these are activists. And so they're baking in all their woke activism and politics into the way they write stories. So when you read an article from what used to be a wire service, they're now using that term, you know, so it's very clear what's going on.
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There's two existential threats we have right now that are the most massive. And one is Big Tech, the other is China. And in Big Tech, and they're actually intrinsically intertwined. But Big Tech, essentially these same cultural elites that run Big Tech run Hollywood, they run academia. They all want one thing. They want to create a second class of citizen in the country, which is conservatives. And you're seeing this already in the messaging and the media and the way they talk about conservatives and the dehumanizing language they use. And so the algorithms are built to further this goal. And that's probably the most dangerous part and least talked about is the way these algorithms work. Because right now, you know, if you go and we use the term Google for search, you know, you don't even say, go search this, you say, Google it. And that in itself is a problem. But when people go to Google and they search out something about gun rights, what are they delivered to their screen? They're delivered propaganda. They're not delivered sort of just bipartisan information where it's driven off of how. How much interest was there in this or anything like that. You know, probably with your show, they've messed with the algorithms to bring your numbers. I've seen it, I've actually seen before on these social media websites, them taking away impressions from one of your tweets or Facebook posts, and they're removing them. This is something they're doing on a constant basis to undermine our reach and the perception, because perception matters so much. They want the perception around conservative ideas to be a negative one. And this is something they were not on top of in 2016. And it's a huge part of why Trump won. And they recognized that. They recognized that we had the numbers, we were getting the impressions, we were having the most popular ideas. And so that's why they don't want to debate ideas. They know that if people are exposed to both ideas, that they're going to go with our idea set most of the time. And so the only way to solve that is to never expose them to it. That's why they're rigging the algorithms against us. But just look at the power they had to delete the President of the United States from social media and get away with it. And then the most frustrating point for me is I recently did a small business town hall where I talked to small business owners in Williamson County, Tennessee. And these people all are upset about Amazon. Most of their businesses have been crushed by Amazon. In America, we used to be the party of trust busting in the Republican Party. We should be going so viciously after Amazon that it makes people's heads spin in Silicon Valley, because what they have done to small business in America is criminal. These people have lost their livelihoods because Amazon intentionally ran a system that was modeled to lose money and gain market share. Now they have a wide enough market share, they've driven people out of business. Now they can raise the prices and go for insane profit. It's why if you invest in Amazon, you know, in the stock market, you'll just. It's gain after gain after gain. Because everybody knows that this is the model, and that's why they didn't pay tax for so long, they lost money on purpose to kill small business in America. So we as Republicans need to get on board and go after these companies. They need to be broken up, and they need to be broken up yesterday. And we also need representatives who understand the technology. One of the most frustrating things for me is watching these hearings. And there's a lot of people who look like they need help, you know, like magnifying their phone in the first place to send a text message, let alone understanding an algorithm or AI or automation or what's coming in the future. We need people who understand those things and are going to be ahead of those things so that conservative policies have something to deliver, that we're able to actually sell an idea instead of play defense, because we've played defense for too long.
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So you're speaking my language, and you're a phenomenal cultural critic, but now you want to be a congressman. So let's talk about that. You're speaking my language with trust busting. If you would have asked me that two or three years ago, I would have said, I don't know, free markets and all that. I love free markets. I think it's the best way to create wealth. Entrepreneurship's a beautiful thing. I think private property is essential. Amazon's not a free market. It's a labor arbitrage, US Taxpayer subsidized package delivery scheme using server farms to underwrite the. And I don't use this word lightly, so trigger warning for the people that are listening. A raping of the American middle class. Let me just say that. And a better way to say it would be a complete destruction. Yeah, exactly. So let me read this to you, though. Let me tell you what you're gonna be up against, because I think you're gonna win. And we're gonna have a lot of people running for office this week and next week and all throughout the cycle. I want to use this platform that the Lord has blessed us with to be able to show people like you that are doing the right thing. But let me tell you what you're gonna be up against, and it's not Democrats. While the Democrats were passing the stimulus, what were Republicans doing? And I quote, Republican leaders were pleased to introduce their own legislation, a renewed attempt at repealing the estate tax. The legislation was unveiled on Thursday by John Kennedy and John Thune and 24 other Republican senators. So while we have big tech destroying our country, small businesses that can't open, churches that can't open, Tucker Carlson being targeted by the Department of Defense, our borders are Wide open Republicans leadership, they want to make sure that the billionaire class, which again, God bless them for making their money, they want to make sure that they can pay less taxes to their kids. Now, again, if you asked me, Charlie, do you want to get rid of the estate tax? I'd shrug my shoulders. Sure, I guess, yeah, fine. This is their priority. This is what they did. A press conference around floor is yours.
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It's unbelievable. It's absolutely unbelievable. And if we want to lose, you want to lose again for another generation. Keep doing stuff like this. Keep doing stuff like this and you're going to turn kids and you're going to turn young people and minorities towards socialism. So if you want to be a failure, keep doing things like this. If you want to actually do something for the people and you want this party to survive in 25 years, you need to get off your butt. You need to get a paper in front of you and write down real priorities. Go meet with some people in the community and ask them what they're worried about. They're worried about Big Tech, they're worried about China. They're worried about their jobs and our economy. And you are doing nothing to solve the problems that are going on in our communities. You know, nothing. We've played defense and been Mr. Nice Guy forever. I just watched a press conference from the border where a Republican said. This isn't a Democrat or Republican issue. Stop. Stop this. Stop. It is a Democrat issue. The border's entirely owned by the Democrats. They're the ones who want to defund the police. They're the ones who want to abolish ice. They're the ones that are letting cartels bring in human trafficking and drugs all the time. They're the ones that are allowing all of this. They want open borders. They promise to incentivize illegal immigrants and give them a path to citizenship and health care. Okay, that wasn't us. So stop playing like your footsies with these Democrats who want to destroy us. You need to get on the right track with your voters, number one. But you need to be a fighter. We need lions, not liars and not lazy people. If you're not prepared to be a lion and fight for these values and stick to your guns and be willing to be the vote that says no, then you should not be in Congress, period. I don't care if you're a Republican or a Democrat. You do not deserve to be there. If you are not going to hold fast to your values and do the right thing for the people who put you there.
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So then tell me how you plan to challenge these entrenched corporate interests. Cause when you get there, and I warn all incoming freshmen of this, and I've seen it happen, they get in, they think they can change the system. And it turns out the Chamber of Commerce is running everything, so. And again, I admit it, that I'm not actually gonna put the pressure on you to get anything done. Cause DC's just basically a public relations stunt to move the Overton window to basically eventually be able to get big stuff done. Eventually. But tell us the arguments you're going to make. What are you going to run on? Breaking up Big Tech? Rebuilding the American family? Paying people to have kids? Restricting immigration. What are you going to be running on?
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Freedom, Family, Future. We need to expand and protect freedoms. We need to rebuild the American nuclear family and support it. And we need to do that in every community. And then we need to be prepared for the problems of the future. We need to be able to. To know what's coming down the pipe in 20 years and be able to effectively go after these companies. I'm sick of watching hearings backed by no action. So at least my vote and my support of other candidates is going to go to people who are ready to act, not people who are going there to be a hack and vote for the corporate interest or whoever their top donor was. I'm not taking Big Tech money, period. I don't want their money. I don't need their money. I have enough people behind me to win on the people's vote. I don't need them. And more candidates need to have that state of mind. But in terms of what I'm doing, you know, you touched on an important point. DC really is a game, a PR
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stunt of what's in here. That's all it is.
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And we don't have enough people who understand effective messaging and optics in dc. I'm a director, so that's one of the tools that I have in, you know, my holster here is like, I get so frustrated watching some of the stuff that goes on in dc, where the reactions and what you do and how you play offense could be done just so beautifully to sell what we believe in. And every single time, they fail, you know, And I'm sick of it. So that's why I'm running, because I want to change that. I want us to have messaging that reflects our voters right now. Who defends our voters? Almost none of our representatives actually defend our voters. Exactly right.
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A couple do. I mean, you're right. The vast majority do not you're exactly a couple do Jim Jordan. A couple.
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But yeah, when they get called racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, there's no representatives that are messaging like that. This is lunacy. So that silence is tacit acceptance that this is the case. Oh, yeah, we do have some. That's not the case. I haven't met one at any. I've done so many events, I've lost track. And I haven't met one racist at these events. That's like, oh, we need to do this policy to keep down, you know, nothing like that. In fact, the vast majority of the people who are the most active have been minorities. And that's another outreach we need to make as a Republican Party is school choice. School choice is so important to the future of our party because when I go into these communities, and unlike other Republicans, I'm not afraid to go into the communities, I talk to them about school choice. Your kids have been locked up for a year given subpar education. We spent over $17,000 per student in Baltimore and in their high schools. Less than 10% at half of their high schools were literate in their senior year of high school. There is no excuse for that. It's school choice that will be the solution because we need competition in the education arena. It's also how we're going to get the woke stuff out of our schools. The woke stuff is there because there's nothing compet for the federal dollars behind it. You know, so again, back to the freedom point, though. One of the worries about school choice for Republicans for a long time has been if, you know, religious schools take federal money, the federal government's gonna try to get in their way and tell them what they can and can't do. And so that's another thing I would put forward is a religious freedom bill. And I would dare any Republican to vote against a religious freedom bill that would give all of our religious institutions the ability to accept federal dollars and never be told what they can do by the federal government. And if there's a Republican in Congress who is willing to vote against that, we will make never in Congress again. Because that's not something that's going to be very popular in a Republican district.
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Yeah. You know, personally, I would love to see us get to a place where corporate dollars can't play a role in campaigns anymore.
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I'm right there with you.
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It's perverted our system. And honestly, I think one of the other problems we have is so much out of state money flowing into in state races. And I think that's been an issue. So we have to look at, is there a way that we can do this where we're not hamstringing campaigns, but we're keeping all this outside money out of it? Because look at Georgia. If Georgia had none of these dollars flowing from Hollywood, they wouldn't have won the race. All of that money is what you could say, flip this along with other people who were stupidly telling people not to vote. But you know that stuff, though, it made a big difference having all that money from Hollywood. So we have to look at that and say, is this really in the best interest of the constituents in that district that they're going to represent or in that state that they're going to represent to have their race predicated off the dollars of people in Hollywood who don't know the concerns of people who live in rural Georgia? And my answer to that is I don't think it's okay. I think that in Hollywood they have very different concerns than we do in Tennessee. And I don't want my race decided by dollars from Hollywood. I just don't think that's right for the constituents here. So I Would love to see us get back to more of like a localist approach where you really run your race in your district, you know, and obviously do national media and stuff like that, because you have to use that, you know, sort of sledgehammer to move the Overton window. But on the flip side of that, you need to be in your district more. You know, I think that's something that has perverted politics as a whole as well. As people are addicted to the D.C. bubble, they know almost, you know, nothing about what's going on in their actual district. And that's, that's wrong. That's not how this was intended to work.
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I completely and totally agree. And the only long term way that we're going to fix this is people that have spark and charisma like you. And I'm actually really optimistic. But it comes with a caveat. I'm optimistic because I watched CPAC and you gave a great speech and I saw that. I don't. CPAC didn't tell me what to say before I spoke. And I'm guessing they didn't tell you what to say and that's a compliment to Matt Schlapp. Same at Turning Point USA at our student action summit. But why am I bringing that up? Because almost everyone that spoke at CPAC was articulating a very similar worldview and doctrine that was totally different than the Mitt Romney corporate raider agenda of 2012. So you kind of had this invisible hand almost working its way over the Republican Party where now we look around like, hey, let's end the corporate oligarchy, let's have strong families, pastors that aren't going to go to prison for opening their church. You're not going to take my guns. I'm going to say whatever I want to say whenever I want to say it. Like that was kind of the through line, right? And so I'm really optimistic because, and I believe this in my core, that Trump and his ideas, the Maga doctrine, are 65 to 70% winning ideas. Putting our country first, caring about your communities, trying to reduce crime, not trying to cater to the Woke industrial complex. So I actually think if we do our job, we just don't win a little. We win big and decisively and landslide, permanent victories. But, and here's the question for you, the biggest obstacle to that is that Woke industrial complex. I did not come up with that. Some guy in Tucker Carlson said that two months ago and I totally stole it. I don't remember his name. Nice guy. So how are you going to go up against the WOKE industrial complex. Because if we defeat them, we win forever. If we don't, they are going to rule in a dark era of America.
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Well, you know, it's another reason why I'm running actually, because I see how they're able to use a lot of the WOKE stuff against our party and the people who are elected. Well, I'm Latino, you can't call me racist. Those are the rules.
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No, they will, you know, they will,
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they will, but those are the rules. So I have a good defense to be able to slam them down on every time that they do this and make them look foolish. You know, it's kind of like David Webb. Did you ever hear that thing where the CNN person.
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Oh, no, it's, it's one of the, it's one of the greatest pieces of anything ever in the history of the civilization. It's phenomenal.
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So to be able to tear them apart on these things and be like, look like I understand all the stuff that you guys are talking about, that's another problem is a lot of the people on our side, they don't understand this. They're too old to get into like the minutiae of what this actually means and what these people are talking about. I understand it. So like you, and you do a brilliant job of this. I can explain how broken these ideas are that when you just add a couple of things to the mix, it all falls down and comes crashing down. You just have to be able to show them how that's done. And you know, I'm going to be really honest, we're terrible at messaging. And so that's why aoc, she has gravitas, she has pools, she's changing the way that people think about these things. It's because she is doing innovative new things. We don't have a member of Congress going on twitch to do gaming with 18 to 25 year old voters that you can transform into activists. We're not doing that and that is our own fault and we're shooting ourselves in the foot. So if we want our ideas to survive, we need people like me there who can be the antidote to her poison. Because what she's doing is a Marxist poison and it's infecting our entire country. So we need people like me and you there to be able to be the antidote.
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Totally. And you're right, AOC is pushing a Marxist poison. And the problem though is that that's not the only threat. The point, and this is the one thing concern is we need to get A little bit more precise about institution. Yeah, totally. And you agree with this and you've said it in a different way, which is there's a corporate oligarchy that is currently running our country and they're going to be in power one way or the other. There's just too much incumbent advantage. There's the way the system works and Cortez is a threat and they really don't like her because she won't play ball with the corporate oligarchy. And while it's very dangerous working with leftists and all that, that I believe though, that there are issues, campaign finance reform, going after big tech, where some of that energy on the Bernie Sanders wing of the party can be very helpful. But the danger is, look, as soon as they start building support, their long term solution is the eradication of private property. Like, it absolutely is. And so I'm not trying to like say, oh, we could all, you know, sing some John Lennon song in the meadow and we're all gonna get along together. That's not what I'm saying. What I am saying though is that of public opinion. We're basically looking at the two most popular viewpoints of the world are this. On one side, you have one side that says America's bitter, awful, terrible, colonialist, misogynistic, racist, burn it all down, Give me my free check in my bank account, I never wanna work again, and give me a lot of weed. And the other side is like, no, America's a wonderful place. We've been given this gift. This is not a colony. This is our home. We need to protect our home. We need to restrict immigration and we need to be very positive and better spokespeople of this country. And we believe in markets, but if markets all of a sudden stop serving the people or the country, then we're gonna make specific policy changes to that. That's it. And like in the middle is this kind of like, oh, I wanna go become a lobbyist for Raytheon? Like, no, that that war should have been ended 10 years ago. And so you represent this very new and exciting. We have some other voices that are coming on our podcast later this week, JD Vance, amongst others, where it's just the one thing that boils it down is we love this, this is our home. And we're willing to do whatever is politically necessary to preserve it for our families, for our future generations, and for the welfare of everyone that we love and care about. To also, of course, honor the history beforehand. Do you agree with that assessment?
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A thousand percent. We need people who are willing to lose everything to protect this country. And I, you know, like people like me, I willingly set my career on fire. I knew what I was doing when I came out and endorsed Trump. It's, you need to have that energy. You have to love this country so much. Like, look, I would not be alive if it weren't for this country. I wouldn't be here. This country. And this allowed my mom to come here and for me to be born on these shores, that's, that's an American story. Like, you don't, that doesn't happen anywhere else. So I have this debt to pay to America that I will give anything to this country so that, that survives for my kids, your kids, our grandkids. Because when America falls, freedom falls. So to your point about being more specific, this is actually a criticism my own wife, she hammers in all the times, like, be specific about everything. People are sick of politicians giving these, like, oh, this is, we're going to, we're going to organize, we're going to do this. She's like, be specific. Tell people exactly where, what you're going to do and do it every single time. Don't over promise, under deliver. You promise something and over deliver every time, or at least try to. And we've lost that in American politics. So I think, just like you, I'm so excited about this next crop of people who are popping up because we all have this like, lion spirit that we want to put the Democrats on the run. And yeah, sure, if we can find ways to work with the part of their party that I would call like the leaning into populism, left, left wing populism, part of their. If we can find things to agree on, then we should be using the optics of trying to work together against them. If they're not gonna do it, we should be weaponizing that. Like, oh, I thought you guys were for the people. You're not willing to do this just because you don't like us. We should be weaponizing that and showing them to be the people who are not willing to do anything. You know, so we have to.
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Well, and one of the arguments conservatives say is like, well, we don't, we don't have the power. People voted for you. You didn't take power by some military coup. You were voted in office as the consent of the governed. You were sent to DC to go push back against the Amazon corporate oligarchy. That's why people voted for you. Or at least that's why they thought they were voting for you and just saying that I'm gonna vote down gun grabbing bills is not enough. We have to be a positive, forward thinking, specific agenda. Okay, Robby, the one piece of feedback I have, I couldn't find your website to send to people to support your run for Congress. So what is it? How do people get behind what you're doing?
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Thank you so much. Yeah, FreedomForever us and the official like candidacy website will be out in a few weeks with you know, some endorsements and stuff like that. So but for now, you go to freedomforever Us, sign up to be a part of the team to, you know, volunteer. You can do it from any state. And we're also going to help other candidates who don't have as large of a national profile so that they can phone, bank and be able to do things like that and use those same tools. So if you want to win, that's a good place to do it. And I'm sure tpusa is probably going to do similar stuff to activate as many people as we possibly can to door knock, do new things within technology people. You know, we can't do the same old things that we've always done. There's a new crop of voters who communicate in a very different way that we need to reach out to. So we're going to have as many of those tools as we possibly can delivered to help people like us to be able to win. Because until our ideology, it completely takes over the party, you know, we're not going to see the change we want to see. And I'm just being perfectly honest. So we want to see it reflected. We have to do the work. We have to be able to work as hard or harder than any other wing of any party, including our own. And so if you care about it, you know, watching Charlie's show is not enough. You know, watching his show gives you tools and it gives you messaging, you know, sort of insight because you do fantastic messaging and it gives you sort of intellectual prowess on why our ideas are better. But you need to get in your community because what happens locally is going to define what happens in our country right now. That's why George Soros is investing millions of dollars in local DA races because he understands that all politics is local. So if you don't like your local GOP because they're still Romney esque, don't complain about it. Go there, join the local GOP and get a position there and take it over. Take it over with people who think like you and we'll see a whole Lot of change in this country if that's the case. And school boards is another thing. You look in red counties, if you doubt what I'm talking about, look in your red counties and look who's on the school board in most of them. There's Democrats on the school board. And it's not because they had great ideas. It's because no Republican ran against them.
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That's right. And so I would encourage you to run as a slate with other candidates. Our political vehicle, Turning Point Action, is going to be in touch with you. And I have some ideas for you because I want to see a slate of great candidates, people like you. Madison Cawthorn has been wonderful and he's young and he's getting better and he's just phenomenal. He's a dear friend of mine. And I want that kind of energy, that spark, that forward thinking, that positivity. And you know what? We could use a Martin Scorsese in Congress because it's all just Hollywood for ugly people is what they call Washington, D.C. so it's about time that we embrace that. Not calling you ugly, Robbie. Don't worry. But. Okay, so you have to send us your link when it's out. My support is behind you because we need fighters. We need people that understand the issues. And I gotta give you credit, you know, I heard you were running. We have you on here and you didn't do any of the typical BS talking point stuff that I have to do these interviews. Okay. Yes. Okay, great. I'm gonna expand opportunity. Like, come on, like, let's. Let's get into the weeds of, of really why we're losing our freedoms. And you did just that, so you deserve credit for that. So thank you, Robby, for joining.
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Hope to see you in Nashville. You're coming soon, so hope to see you again.
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It's going to be a lot of fun. Everyone should check it out. Tpusa.com genfree we'll be in Nashville. All right, Robby, thanks so much.
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Talk to you soon.
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Thanks. Thanks so much for listening, everybody. Email us your questions freedomarliekirk.com if you want to support us, go to charliekirk.com support thanks so much for listening, everybody. God bless.
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