The Greatest Deportation Operation in American History ft. Border Czar Tom Homan

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Podcast Summary: The Charlie Kirk Show

Episode: The Greatest Deportation Operation in American History ft. Border Czar Tom Homan

Date: January 5, 2026
Host: Charlie Kirk
Guest: Tom Homan (US Border Enforcement Lead, "Border Czar")

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Overview

This episode centers on the United States' border security efforts and the ongoing “greatest deportation operation in American history” under President Trump’s administration. Charlie Kirk, joined by Tom Homan (former ICE Director and current Border Czar), discusses the scale, execution, and political obstacles of mass deportations, the crackdown on sanctuary cities, successes in border control, and efforts to recover missing children. The episode emphasizes enforcement tactics, the importance of personnel expansion, and the political and cultural pushback faced by immigration officials.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Tom Homan’s Role and Mission Update

• Three Main Objectives as Border Czar:
  • Secure the border.
  • Oversee the largest deportation operation in US history.
  • Find 300,000 missing children lost under the prior administration.
    (D, 02:44)
• Achievements:
  • Reports the "most secure border in US history," citing a drop from 10,000 illegal crossings per day (previous administration) to about 160 daily, all of whom are deported.

    "I went to Texas border... I didn't see a single illegal alien. Now contrast that with 10,000 a day under the previous administration." (D, 02:44)

  • Record deportations: Over 650,000 so far, surpassing the previous highest year of 409,000 (FY12).

    "...we're at over 650,000 and we're not even done yet." (D, 05:57)

  • 129,000 of the missing 300,000 children have been located. Many were previously unvetted, potential trafficking victims; some were found to be safe but in hiding.

    "Trump’s leadership has saved thousands of lives of these young kids...129,000 children...the last administration wasn’t even looking for." (D, 05:57)

2. The Scale of Deportations & Deterrence Effect

• Net Outflow:
  • Nearly 1.9 million left “voluntarily” after being encouraged (e.g., with a stipend and tickets), plus formal deportations.
  • Total removals: Around 2.5 million in under a year.

    "We're about 2.5 million." (D, 07:58)

• Deterrence:
  • Aggressive enforcement and messaging have reduced the incentive to cross illegally.

    "No free pass anymore... If we have to formally find you and deport you, you're not coming back." (D, 08:32)

• Comparison to Eisenhower Era:
  • Citing the “1 deportation = 10 departures” ratio.

3. Enforcement Tactics and Legal Framework

• Criminal Prosecutions:
  • Crossing the border illegally (Title 8 USC 1325) is a misdemeanor first offense; re-entry is a felony (1326).

    "It's a crime to enter the country illegally... record prosecution for 1325 are going on right now." (D, 25:00)

• Prioritization:
  • Focus on public safety threats and national security threats.

    "If you're in the country illegally, you're not off the table. We find you, you're going home." (D, 08:07)

  • Over half of deportees have criminal backgrounds; many are DUI or have final removal orders.

    "Last numbers are... we're around 60% criminal... a lot are national security threats." (D, 10:20)

4. Confronting Sanctuary Cities and Political Pushback

• Interference Actions:

  • Zero tolerance for interfering with ICE officers (spitting, physical interference) – perpetrators are prosecuted federally.

    "You impede it, you put hands on us. There's zero tolerance... not local jail, you're going to go federal prison." (D, 14:09)

  • Ongoing lawsuits against sanctuary cities; possibility of legal accountability for officials who impede ICE.

    “Pam Bondi is suing sanctuary cities across the country. I have faith we'll win.” (D, 15:34)

  • Recent case in Milwaukee where a judge was convicted for hindering ICE, seen as a turning point.

    "This week, she was convicted in a court of felony hindering of officers." (C, 18:01)

• ICE Tactics in Hostile Jurisdictions:

  • Increasing agent presence in sanctuary cities (“flood the zone”) leading to more collateral arrests.

    "We're going to send more officers to sanctuary cities and flood the zone." (D, 17:15)

  • Message: If cities don't cooperate, they get more ICE presence, which can result in more non-target/arrests.

5. Resource Expansion & Operation Scaling

• Personnel:
  • 10,000 new ICE agents being rolled out by January's end; force size is tripling.

    "New hires, 10,000. We expect all 10,000 will be on the street by the end of January." (D, 23:02)

  • 100,000 deportation beds planned to facilitate increases in arrests and removals.

    "We need 100,000 beds because everybody we arrest, we need a bed." (D, 23:32)

• Border Patrol:
  • Additional 5,000 Border Patrol agents funded.

    "I think it's five, 5,000 more border patrols." (B, 24:03)

• First-ever ICE buildup matches prior Border Patrol surges.

6. Political and Media Culture

• Rhetoric and Dangers to Agents:
  • Homan pleads for reduction in anti-ICE/Border Patrol rhetoric—claims words have led to agent deaths.

    "If the hateful rhetoric doesn't die down, there's going to be bloodshed. And there has been." (D, 20:47)

  • Reports of spike in threats and assaults: "Threats of assault are up like 8,000%. Actual assaults are up 1,200%." (D, 21:00)
  • Urges “dislike us all you want, but stop calling these people Nazis and racists and Gestapo.” (D, 21:45)
• Elections as the Solution:
  • Advises voting at all levels to put pro-enforcement officials in place.

    "Vote for your city council, vote for your mayor, vote for the school board. All starts from the ground up." (D, 40:16)

• Personal Risk:
  • Homan recounts personal sacrifices, threats, and protests at his home; says it’s worth it due to the mission.

    "I took a hell of a pay cut to come back...death threats against me and my family." (D, 32:39)

7. Audience Q&A Notables

• Somali Deportations in Minneapolis: Ongoing re-vetting of prior arrivals, focus on criminals and national security threats; effort being expanded with more agents.
  (D, 38:45)
• ID Theft and Worksite Enforcement: Surge underway to criminally prosecute illegal aliens using stolen Social Security numbers and to charge complicit employers. (D, 11:47)
• Tip line for Law Enforcement: Officers can report illegal aliens via DHS's hotline: 866-DHS-2-ICE.

  "There is a tip line. You can call, make a phone call, create a liaison with ICE Air in Chicago." (D, 36:12) "866 DHS, the number 2 ICE." (C, 37:18)

• Denaturalization: Criminals and those fraudulently naturalized are subjects of ongoing federal review and action.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On the Operation’s Scale & Morale:

  "We're running the biggest deportation operations this country ever seen... we need more boots on the ground. And we're getting boots on the ground." (D, 24:19)

• On Enforcement Philosophy:

  "The most vulnerable people in the world are not giving their life savings to a criminal cartel to swim across the river. They know there's no free pass through right now." (D, 08:17)

• Defending ICE Against Criticism:

  "Dislike us all you want, but stop calling these people Nazis and racists and Gestapo because you got nuts out there that feel bold to take action again." (D, 21:45)

• On Sanctuary City Resistance:

  "If you don't want to help us, then get out of the way. We'll do it for you... We'll protect your community for you." (D, 18:17)

• On Public Service and Sacrifice:

  "I took a hell of a pay cut to come back...death threats against me and my family... what we're doing right now is just... saving lives." (D, 32:39)

• On Voting/Political Engagement:

  "Vote for your city council, vote for your mayor, vote for the school board. All starts from the ground up. Vote." (D, 40:16)

• On Prioritizing Criminals:

  "Over half are criminals. A lot of them, some people say last numbers are, look, we're around 60% criminal... a lot are national security threats." (D, 10:10)

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Important Segments & Timestamps

• [02:25] – Tom Homan outlines Trump’s calls to action, objectives, and current progress.
• [05:57] – Details on border security improvements, removal records, and missing children recovery.
• [07:48] – Discussion of voluntary departures and mass deportation totals.
• [14:09] – Zero tolerance policy for interference with ICE operations.
• [18:01] – Sanctuary city judge convicted for hindering ICE.
• [20:47] – Homan’s plea for reducing hostile rhetoric against ICE agents.
• [23:02] – Scaling up: 10,000 new ICE agents, 100,000 beds, and border wall enhancements.
• [25:00] – Clarifying the criminal vs. civil status of border crossings and record prosecutions.
• [36:12] – Introduction of DHS tip line for law enforcement: 866-DHS-2-ICE.
• [38:45] – Somalian deportations and denaturalization efforts.
• [40:16] – Final advice: vote, political engagement for law enforcement support.

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Tone & Closing

Throughout the episode, the tone is determined, assertive, and celebratory of law enforcement. Homan frequently expresses respect for agents and frustration with political opposition. Charlie Kirk (and audience members) reinforce a combative, activist stance, especially toward perceived obstruction by left-wing politicians. The show ends with Homan reflecting on sacrifices made, expressing hope and pride in ongoing operations, and a solemn message honoring those lost in service.

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For listeners who missed the episode:

• The podcast details the Trump administration’s border and deportation initiatives through Tom Homan’s direct insights.
• Listeners gain a sense of scale, tactics, and political context for the largest deportation operation in US history.
• The conversation punctuates enforcement successes, expansion of resources, political opposition, challenges from sanctuary cities, and the essential role of public and local political engagement.
• The episode includes a heavy emphasis on law and order rhetoric, the need for electoral change, and appreciation for those putting themselves at risk to enforce immigration law.

Transcript

[A]

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[B]

But without further ado, Tom Homan. The great Tom Homan.

[C]

I think that's. I think that's the biggest round of applause we've gotten for any of these guys so far.

[B]

And you know why we're all here. We're going to be talking about marginal tax rates, health care. Health care. What do we got here? Yeah. Israel.

[D]

No.

[B]

Borders are. Mr. Borders are. Tom Homan, you are an American folk hero at this point. You're an American hero. You're my hero as well. You, you are tasked with overseeing probably the most important political plank, President Trump's 2024 election, I would say in his campaign, and that would be deportations, making sure the bad guys get removed from our country. And you have a heck of a job dealing with a lot of these blue states, blue cities, blue blue counties, blue mayors. Why don't you just give us an update of how the task is unfolding?

[D]

All right, so when President Trump, I was the first guy he called. When he called me, he and I agreed to come back, which my wife's still pissed off about. How many times you gonna unretire anyway?

[B]

So you're like Michael Jordan of deporters.

[D]

He asked me, he said, look, I want you oversee three things. I need to secure the border, I need to run the biggest deportation operation in the nation's history, and we need to find these 300,000 missing kids. So where are we at? We got the most secure border right now in the history of this country. I just got back a few days ago. I went to Texas border I went to Arizona border and I went to the California border. I toured border by air, in the river, on boat and a four wheel drive on some of the most treacherous parts of the border. In three days, I didn't see a single illegal alien. Now contrast that with 10,000 a day under the previous administration. So look, I don't take credit for any of this. It's the men and women, the Border Patrol men and women wearing that uniform, that stand in that line every day. God bless each and every Border Patrol agent. I love them, each and every one of them. And none of this wouldn't happen unless we had President Trump in the Oval Office, who happens to be the greatest president in my lifetime. Bottom line, hard stop. So, and when he told me, he says, these are the three things we can lock the board down. We've done it before. We did it in Trump 45. But the numbers this year in Trump 47 are far better than Trump 45. Daily people coming to the border, across 2,000 miles of border, as average as about 160. And every one of them are being turned around. No one's being released in the United States. Deportation operation. He promised the country historic deportation operations. It's already historic. More people have been deported since he's been in office, in less than one year than any time in history of this nation. The biggest year we ever had was FY12. FY12. There was 409,000 people removed. We're at over 650,000 and we're not even done yet. So the President's delivering on record deportation. Despite the sanctuary cities, despite the protesters, despite, despite the hate, the men and women of ICE are getting this done at an amazing rate. The children, that was the toughest out of all three, and let me tell you why, because we can find you. You own a home, you got a car, you have credit cards, you pay bills, you have a digital footprint. Kids don't. So we had to rely on the digital footprint of the unvetted sponsors. Many of the addresses the agents are going to are parking lots of. Many of these addresses were never checked. A lot of these sponsors weren't even fingerprinted, no DNA testing. So a half a million children, a half a million were smuggled across the border under Joe Biden. Many victims of trafficking. So they lost track of 300,000. They couldn't find them. 300,000. I'm happy to report as of this week, the Trump administration has found 129,000. These are 129,000 children that the last administration Wasn't even looking for. And look, many of them were safe with their families, just hiding out. They don't want to be deported. But many were involved in sex trafficking, being sold to sex slavery, forced labor. President Trump's leadership has saved thousands of lives of these young kids. So God bless President Trump and God bless those. That's where we're at.

[B]

I love it. And you know, something that a lot of people talk a lot about, and I think it's a good thing to talk about, because people don't, you know, they want mass deportations and they want it yesterday.

[D]

Right.

[B]

They want all 20 million or whatever the number is.

[C]

Some people just. They make up wild ones. I think someone said 100 million.

[B]

100 million we want. I would take 100 million people. Getting the traffic would be amazing. So. But, Tom, you know, we have a net flow of people out of the. Out of the country. And I think back to the Eisenhower administration, the last real deportation effort that has been done in this country. And there is this ratio of, if you deport one person, chances are you're going to get X number of deportations. That ratio is about 1 to 10 in Eisenhower. So we're actually getting a lot more people out of this country. What is the total number? We think have left either of their own accord, and they've taken the deal that you guys are offering with plane tickets and a stipend. What do we think that number is at right now?

[D]

Just below 1.9 million.

[B]

Is that on top of the 650,000 deportation, or is that all in?

[D]

No, yeah, over 600,000. We're about 2. 2.5 million.

[B]

2.5 million.

[D]

And let me say this, because this isn't talked about enough. That was always a part of the plan. People say, oh, you shouldn't count them. You didn't deport them. That was always a part of the plan. We knew if we put 1,000 ice teams on the streets and show there are consequences for entering this country illegally, and you heard from day one, there's a lot of media out there. Homeowner only wants criminals and public safety threats. Look, I said from day one, we are going to prioritize the public safety threats and national security threats because they pose the most danger. But if you're in the country legally, you're not off the table. We find you going home. So because of what ISIS is doing, they sent a message to the whole world. No free pass anymore. We have laws. If you want to be part of the greatest nation on earth, do it. The Right way, if you're in this country legally, we're going to seek you out. We're going to find you and deport you because of what ISIS is doing every day that the left is hating, that sent a message to the whole world. The most vulnerable people in the world are not giving their life savings to a criminal cartel to swim across the river. They know there's no free pass through right now. So. And because of that, that's a big part. We have the most secure border ever. People aren't willing to make that sacrifice and put themselves in danger. Plus, the ISA operation is sending a strong message. Leave on your own. If you're not formally deported, you may leave yourself an avenue in the future to come on a visitor visa, work visa, or maybe have a relative that can petition from you. But if we have to formally find you and deport you, you're not coming back. So I think those two things are a game changer for people. So, look, secure border because of President Trump, because of men and women abort to wear the green uniform. But a lot of it has to do with ISIS doing every day in the country.

[C]

That was always one of the most infuriating things with the border rhetoric, where they'd say, oh, you can't secure the border because there's 10,000 people there, and, you know, your only option would be to shoot all of them. And really, you're revealing what the truth is, which is even a little bit of toughness and showing that we're a real country. And the demand melts away. The people arriving endlessly, they just melt away. The problem sort of solves itself eventually.

[D]

We were enforcing the law. The last administration ignored the law. You know what federal law says, when you come to the border without proper documentation, you shall be detained. Not maybe not think about it. Not giving it to an NGO to be, you know, put in a hotel room, 500 bucks a night. And when President Trump came in, he told us, now you enforce laws written in the book. So, you know, ice, because they're enforcing law, because President Trump let them fulfill the mission and the oath they took. Now you're seeing what's happening. This country's much. And despite the rhetoric out there from the left, the majority of people ICE arrest are criminals. They just think they're. They don't think they're criminal enough. Oh, it's just a DUI. DUI killed 12,000 people a year last year. So DUI is a public safety threat. So over half are criminals. And a lot of them, some people Say last numbers are, look, we're around 60% criminal. It was like 70. It's floating around 62. Kind of look at the data every day. So who are the other 35%? A lot of our national security threats. Most national security threats don't have a criminal history because they're laying low to wait for the dirty deed. Right. Many of them are final orders. These are people who had due process at great taxpayer expense, were ordered removed by a federal judge and said, I'm not going to become a fugitive. You're damn right we're looking for them. And we find that we're executing the removal. So. And are there people they're arresting that are not a public safety threat, not a national security threat, not a fugitive? Yeah, absolutely. We're enforcing immigration laws. Yeah, exactly. So we're fine. They're going to be arrested.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

And how many have stolen IDs and Social Security numbers? I mean, these are not victimless crimes either, by the way.

[D]

Actually, we're doing a surge on that right now. Illegal aliens that are using your Social Security number are going to criminally charge them with identity theft. We're going to charge the employer for knowingly hire. Look, we're going to enforce a lot, I think. If you think the numbers are good now, wait till we surge on work site enforcement and wait till these 10,000 new officers are on the street. You think the numbers are good this year, Wait till next year.

[B]

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[D]

Well, I think it is, and Attorney General Pam Bondi and her staff looking at that, I can tell you this. 18 USC111 ping interference with a ICE officer, we got historic number of prosecutions. So for the protesters out there that want to cross that line and be a criminal, you spit on an ICE officer, you put a hand on an ICE officer, you interfere with officer's arrest, you're going to jail and you're going to be prosecuted. And the numbers show it. I hear people say all the time, why don't you arrest them all? We're wrestling. You impede it, you put hands on us. There's zero tolerance. Zero tolerance. You put a hand on an officer, you're going to jail. And not some local jail, you're going to go federal prison. So we're taking it seriously. But I agree with you. And I've said, look, when I was ICE director, I remember the first news interview I did, the left went crazy. Guy says, sanctuary city officials, we need to look at them. At what point are you harboring and concealing an illegal alien? When I was an agent a long time ago, I had hair. You know, I processed very little more than me. You, I got you, B.

[B]

Somebody's been deporting all your, your hair follicles.

[C]

Sent off to, sent off to El Salvador.

[D]

So when I was an agent in Phoenix, Arizona, I did a big, big piece of my career here. I've arrested US citizens for annoyingly harboring, concealing, able to go alien their home or illegal alien in the workplace.

[B]

We got governors and judges that do that.

[D]

So here's my question. If you got Holman County Jail, and we know for a fact, based on fingerprint biometrics, by graphical data, we have an illegal in that jail right now, we know he's in that jail. We just got a printout saying he's in that jail. We have a warrant for his arrest, or he's been deported before, which means we can prosecute him for a felony. If we're not allowed in that facility, if we're not allowed access that facility, is that not harboring, concealing? So I've asked DOJ to look at it. So, look, Pam Bondi is soon, Department of Justice, suing sanctuary cities across the country. I have faith we'll win. And when we do, you're going to see the whole world get lit on fire. Because sanctuary cities. Until then. Until then, I've said, and people say, oh, you're threatening Democratic cities. No, I'm not. I'm threatening sanctuary cities. If you don't want to work with us, then get out of the way. We'll do it for you. But what we're going to do, we're going to flood the zone if you don't give us access to the jail. Look, back in my day, one agent can arrest one illegal alien in a county jail. It's safer for the alien, it's much safer for the agent, and it's safer for the community. Right. Well, if you're going to annoyingly release a public safety threat in the community, that means we ought to send a whole team now to rest him on his turf, where he has access to know who knows what weapons. So what we're going to do, since we know sanctuary cities are a problem, since we know sanctuary cities are knowingly releasing criminal public safety threats to the community, what are we going to do? We're going to flood the zone. We're going to send more officers to sanctuary cities and flood the zone. So my message to sanctuary cities is, you know, you're going to get exactly what you don't want. You'll get more agents in your communities and you will get more collateral arrest. Because when we find that bad guy, many times are with others, if they're in a country legally, they're coming, too.

[C]

I want to give you guys a shout out because you've mentioned there's going to be consequences for this. And I think with Amfest going on, people didn't hear about this, but they may remember back in April, there was this Milwaukee county judge, Hannah Duggan, and there was a illegal immigrant in her court for battery, had committed a violent crime. And she hindered ICE from being able to arrest him, said, I'm not going to allow you into my chambers. Tried to shelter him, gave, I think let him out through A back door.

[B]

Scurried him out the back.

[F]

Yes.

[C]

And this week, she was convicted in a court of felony hindering of officers.

[D]

That.

[B]

That might have got a larger applause than you got right there. That's how hungry the people are for justice.

[D]

You're going to see more of that. Good. Can't wait. So, look, I'm not up here to threaten anybody, but I've been clear from day one. Sanctuary cities, if you don't want to help us, just get out of the way. We'll protect your community for you. Any mayor or governor that wants to push back on ICE and say, we don't want you in our neighborhoods, their number one responsibility is the safety and security of their communities. ICE has taken a lot of public safety threats out of your community. You all be thanking us, not protesting us, and not pushing back against us. So it's not a threat. I'm just telling what we're going to do. We're going to flood the zone, and we got 10,000 new agents coming on. Watch what happens.

[B]

Yeah, I love to hear that. And I think. You know, I recently talked with Stephen Miller, who I know you work closely with in the White House.

[D]

Yeah, Stephen.

[B]

Talk about him for a second. How good is he?

[D]

He's brilliant. He's great.

[B]

We love Stephen Miller.

[D]

Look, I'm. I'm an old man. I can tell you right now, Stephen Miller is probably the smartest man I've met in my life. The guy, every day, we have a meeting every day, and I sit there and he brings up stuff, and I go, wow, I haven't heard that in 35 years. I mean, this guy knows this issue. I'm proud to work with him. He's a game changer. He's the architect. Brilliant. I respect him greatly.

[B]

Yeah, well, again, I go back to this word impede. These guys are impeding the heck out of you guys, and you know it. And I'm just. I'm just gonna leave it here because you've answered the question, but I hope there's more we can do legally to get these guys to stop impeding the good work that you guys are doing, because it's so important. A lot of these mayors need to go see jail cells, as far as I'm concerned.

[D]

Well, I.

[B]

And governors.

[D]

I know things. You don't.

[E]

Get Gavin out of there.

[D]

Wait, just. I can just say, look, wait, wait and see.

[B]

By the way, this is why the midterms are so important. Right? Because getting these Republicans to do anything next year ahead of these midterms, they're going to be total cowards. They don't want to rock the boat. Little do they know that would actually galvanize support and more people would show up for them. But if. If we have a good outcome in these midterms, and even if we don't, frankly, because we still have the federal branch. But, like, there is going to. I believe that you guys are going to be even more emboldened. There's going to be even more Runway for you guys to do some really important things.

[D]

Let me end. I think we're done. Let me end with this. I want to say the same thing I said last week when I was down in San Diego and did a press conference. I'm asking every mayor or governor, you cannot like us. You can, you know, protest us. You can impede us. You can call us all the names you want. I'm asking them, stop the hateful rhetoric. Yes, because I said back in March, if the hateful rhetoric doesn't die down, there's going to be bloodshed. And there has been. People have died. And as I said last week, I have throughout my long career, I've buried Border patrol agents, I've buried ICE agents, and the worst part of my job is handing a folded flag to a child or a spouse. I don't want to bury anybody else. So please stop the hateful rhetoric. Because threats of assault are up like 1800. No, excuse me, 8,000%. Actual assaults are up, like 1,200%. So I'm begging you, no more bloodshed. And, you know, every night I go to bed, I pray for the men and women of ICE and Borg Trouble, but I also pray for the people we're looking for. I don't want anybody to die. So for God's sakes, stop the hyper rhetoric. Dislike us all you want, but stop calling these people Nazis and racists and Gestapo because you got nuts out there that feel bold to take action again. Argue with us all you want. Come to the table and talk to me. Sanctuary cities. I want to work with sanctuary cities. I want them to work with us and concentrate on public safety threats. But stop the hateful rhetoric. I'm telling you, the bloodshed isn't over. So God bless the men and women of ice. God bless the men and women. Borbjo, God bless President Trump, and God bless the greatest nation on Earth.

[C]

The big beautiful bill included funding for the expansion of ice. So I imagine hiring for that is ongoing. Training for that is ongoing. Can you lay out the picture of how much is the force expanding? How Quickly, were those men and women be rolled out into the field? And how will that translate to the pace of deportations across the country?

[D]

Thousands are already in the field. New hires, 10,000. We expect all 10,000 will be on the street by the end of January. That's great. Of course, with that, I push from day one for 100,000 beds. We'll get to 100,000 beds. And it's not because, you know, because when you hire 10,000 more people, look, right now, when all this started, we had 5,000, just under 5,000 deportation officers, 110,000 more. We're tripling the size of the workforce. So we need 100,000 beds because everybody we arrest, we need a bed. We don't people, we don't arrest somebody in New York City and send them to, you know, Venezuela the next day. You have to bed them down, make arrangements to fly south. So we need a bed for everybody. We rest. So we need 100,000 beds with 100,000 beds, with 10,000 new agents with more walls being built. Went down. Look at more wall construction. It's going to be an amazing year. It's going to be an amazing year.

[B]

And we got more judges coming, more border patrol. There was, wasn't there 3,000 more border patrol in the. I think it's five, 5,000 more border patrols. So this is a part of our government. It's the only part that hasn't grown since its inception. And you guys have finally got more funding for it.

[D]

So ice, this is the first ICE buildup I've seen Border patrol, and I love the border patrol. I started as border patrol agent. They get plussed up all the time. And everybody, they rest. Many of them come to ice. ICE didn't get a plus up. Now ICE got the plus up they deserve. And perfect timing. We're running the biggest deportation operations this country ever seen. And we need more boots on the ground. And we're. We're getting boots on the ground.

[B]

Amen. You want to do a few questions.

[D]

Mr. We do that.

[B]

Emma, you want to. Awesome.

[D]

Good afternoon, Mr. Homan. Thank you for your service to the country. So I have two questions. Why is crossing the border a civil.

[C]

Offense and not a criminal offense? And can we make it a criminal offense?

[D]

And what would the steps be for that? Well, crossing the border legally is a criminal offense. Title 8, United States Code, 1325. It's a crime to enter the country legally. And it's called, you know, 8 USC 1325. I can tell you right now, the record prosecution for 1325 are going on right now. We have historic number of prosecutions on the border. Not only are 1325, but 8 USC 1326 is re entering the country legally after you've been formally deported, That's a felony. 13 USC 1325, illegal entry, it's a misdemeanor of your first offense. If you get deported and come back, that's a felony. So we are prosecuting them. Cases a record number. 1325, 1326 prosecutions are amazing. So that's actually showing the consequences actually also a part of why the border is so secure. So I want to be clear. I know there's politicians out there saying enter the country legally is not a crime. As I said, the AOC years ago, it is a crime. And any legislator don't know that should go back to school. Pardon me.

[F]

They quit their job.

[D]

Appreciate the question, but that's a misnomer. A lot of, you know, you read a lot of the media. They say it's administrative. No, it isn't. It's a crime.

[E]

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[D]

Can I take a picture with you?

[B]

Send him up. Yeah.

[D]

Sure.

[B]

All right, next question. You can come on up and we'll keep asking the question.

[C]

Did you get photos of like, did any kids dress up as like ice Agents for Halloween. They should.

[B]

Yeah, they should have. All right, we'll get them up.

[F]

Next question.

[D]

Yeah. All right. Here you go, buddy. Come on. Yep. A.

[F]

Such a good picture. Yeah.

[D]

Let's go.

[F]

Oh, it's great.

[D]

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[C]

Thank you very much.

[D]

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[F]

What?

[D]

You want to be a Bor. Patrol agent? Sure.

[E]

No.

[D]

Let's go.

[B]

Awesome.

[C]

Well, hopefully by the time he's old enough, we, like, won't even need them.

[B]

Yeah, but.

[F]

So, Tom, I don't know if you remember me from last year. I don't remember which one it was, but I did get to ask you a question about if you're going to war with the cartels. And I was right. I'm very pleased to announce that we are going to war with cartels. It's very dangerous. It's very evil. Fentanyl is a super, amazingly powerful weapon. It should be classified as a weapon, and people should think about it that way. My question to you, kind of related, is, when you're in front of the msm, what you should ask them is, how is it that it's not racist to not deport people who are stealing jobs from minorities? They call you racist all the time. They're the ones who are racist. You need to ask them that question and say, you're the ones, you're the media. You're the ones who say you're defending, you know, the people's interests. Tell me how it's not racist to not deport the people who are stealing jobs from minorities. That's what I think you should ask them.

[D]

Well, look, that's a great point. And I'll tell you something. I tell people, we don't talk about much at all. They say that, look, you know, have a heart. I mean, you're racist. Why are you deporting people? They just simply come in here for a better life. I get that, but what's happened? Under Biden administration, millions of people came to the border and claimed asylum, which they weren't qualified to claim. That's why. Based on immigration court data, nearly nine out of 10 people who claim asylum at the border end up with an order removal. They get ordered deported. Why? Because they don't qualify for asylum. They're not escaping fear and persecution from their home government because of race, religion, political affiliation. They're coming for a better life. And I get that, but that's not asylum. So while they're making these frauds and asylum claims are clogging up the courts, Back to seven years. There are actually thousands of people in the world that really are escaping fear and persecution that needs our help, and they're sitting in the back seat. And I'll say another thing about illegal immigration. Every illegal immigrant across the border legally is a cheater because there are millions of people standing in line, taking their tests, paying their fees, getting vetted, doing a background investigation to be part of the greatest nation on earth. And now they're back in the bus. So do I apologize for enforcing immigration law? I absolutely do not. We're going to enforce it. And again, we always prioritize the most dangerous in the community. But if you're in the country legally, we're looking for you. And when we find you, we're going to deport you.

[B]

Simple as that. Amen.

[D]

Hi, Mr. Homan, I'm from Boston and I had a question. I'm sorry. So our state between the state and city government is very left leaning sanctuary city and they give driver's licenses regardless of immigration status. I'm curious what you're doing to help make sure people, those people don't get on the voter rolls. That's an issue dealing with right now. We're prioritizing that across the country. I'm sorry you're stuck there. I mean, look, it's a great city, but your governor, mayor, I mean, your mayor's dude, testified in front of congress under oath that I was lying about the criminal threat of illegal aliens in Boston. Look at the numbers of the criminals we took off the street of Boston. You're welcome, city of Boston. You're welcome to the state of Massachusetts. But voter rolls and illegal aliens voting all over it, you're going to see a big difference coming. Not me. I'm not on it, but I can tell you people are on. I'm a little busy, but that's being looked at by other branches. But we got the greatest president. History has that concern too, and we're looking at it. We love you, Tom. I love you.

[E]

Mr. Holman.

[C]

You're the only one having everyone just yell that they love you from the audience. I'm gonna say that.

[D]

Well, you know, I'm married, but I don't know if I unretire again, I might not be.

[B]

Yeah, don't do it again.

[D]

Look, I got. Look, and I want to say something. You know, I took a hell of a pay cut to come back, you know, the death threats against me and my family. I lived apart from my wife for a long time. Amazing. When I got the call, all kidding aside, she told me, you need to do it because she saw the last four years, she got angry too. I think you all got angry last four years. So even though she knew, okay, here comes the protest that the house again. I had a thousand people protest at one of my homes, at my vacation home where my wife was. But she's a. She's putting up with it. She understands what we're doing right now is saving the lives, you know, by having illegal immigration down 94%. Think about this. There's been studies done that 31% of women that make that journey through the cartels get sexually assaulted, they get raped. Under Joe Biden, over 4,000 aliens died making that journey. Hit historic record. Quarter million Americans died from fentanyl. Historic record. They say his policies were humane. No, they were killing Americans at record numbers, killing aliens at record numbers, no humanity there. President Trump has illuminated on 94% right now when 94% less people are coming. How many people are being raped? How many children aren't dying, making that journey? How many women and children aren't being sex trafficked? How many pounds of fentanyl isn't coming across the country, across the border to kill Americans? How many non inspected terrorists aren't coming? President Trump's saving thousands of lies every month. And what we're doing right now is just. I'm excited every look, I get tired, but every time I read a hit, peace time. I get all fired up again. So keep writing them because I'm not going anywhere, folks. I'm not going anywhere.

[B]

Yeah, well said. You know how many angel moms are being prevented as well? You know, we have a few at this event and every time you see them, it's, it's takes your breath away. We have another question over here.

[E]

Yes, Mr. Holman. I'm 18 years law enforcement in just outside of Chicago. This is something that gets to everybody I work with. When you guys had your operations in Chicago, I had two people. I ran through NCIC automatically came up trend agua and I notified my command and they said, just print it out, we'll put it in our folder. I cannot tell you how infuriating it is for us on the streets knowing that I got a guy sitting in front of me trend agua, he knows what, after I run him and then sits there and laughs at me, had to just process him. And because of the state laws in Illinois, he got to walk back out on the streets. I never saw him again. Because we have catch and release for crimes now in Illinois. What advice one can you give us to the boots on the ground who want to put. Take these guys and do something with them, knowing that they're trend agua, for example. And two, is there a way that ICE can actually come up with an anonymous tip line so we can actually call you guys to say, hey, my state won't let me arrest this guy, but I got a trend agua guy sitting in my car right now, and my boss wants me to walk him out the door.

[D]

Well, there is a new tip line. I forgot what it was. Where's my chief of staff? She wouldn't know. Anyways, there is a tip line. I'll have you. I'll get that tip line, DHS something. Anyways, there is a tip line. You can call, make a phone call, create a liaison with IceAir in Chicago. Make a phone call. Help us out. Look, I said this before. Law enforcement across the country, the men and women on the front line, men working on the streets, they support 100% what we're doing. It's the administration. It's ones who work for the mayor or the ones who are elected. Some sheriffs, right? Politics. They put politics ahead of public safety. I just can't believe that. That, you know, they took an oath to enforce laws and protect their communities, and they're not doing that. So call the tip line.

[C]

866 DHS, two ice. Is that the right one?

[D]

Yes, it is. All right.

[B]

866 DHS, the number two ice. DHS. 866 DHS, the number 2 ice.

[D]

And I'd give you my number, but I did that one time, and I regret that because I'm not kidding. I had to shut my phone down.

[C]

But not even the protesters. They just called and they're like, is this Tom Homan? Cool.

[D]

Well, give us a call and if you get in trouble, let me know. We'll give you a job. Actually, you know, Rochester PD up my home state of New York. You know, some of those officers got in trouble for responding to assistance from ice, and I actually flew up there. I offered him a job. I said, if you want to. You want to be a special agent, let me know. So we're hiring a lot of cops. We're in a lot of people right now, so. Well, prior law enforcement experience is a priority, so we love it.

[B]

NYPD is about to have a mass exodus out of that PD, so. Hi, Mr. Homan. Thank you for all you do. I'm from Minnesota. So what is the status on the Somali deportations in Minneapolis? And realistically, how many can we, you know, get rid of because it's kind of been taken over.

[C]

And is there one specific one, too?

[B]

Yeah, and let's talk about denaturalization while we're talking about it.

[D]

Look, all that's happening, we're looking for criminal Somalis, we're looking for Somalian that weren't vetted properly, were going to be re vetted if we don't not satisfied with the vetting process. And we think there's an issue with either public safety, national security, they'll be set up for deportation. There is talk of DNATs. Look, we're going to follow the law. The last administration just ignored the law. Vetting was poor. I can't tell you how many BOR Patrol agents called me last four years saying they had to release somebody before vetting came back. And when vetting came back, when that illegal alien was already released, they came back hot from the bureau. So President Trump is going to fix all the terrible things the Biden administration created. And it's a lot of work, but we're going to get it done. So the Twin Cities all over it, a lot more agents are on the way there. So you're going to see a lot of action up there. Can we do one more, Tom? One more.

[B]

If it's Quillmore, we want to be done at two, so. Yep, one more here.

[D]

Hi, Mr. Homan, thank you for all your help in making America great again. I'm from Austin, Texas, AKA Western California. What steps can we take or can be taken to help prevent the violence against and the blocking of the duties of ICE agents?

[C]

And they're telling us we have to wrap. So make it a quick answer, unfortunately.

[D]

Vote. Vote for your city council, vote for your mayor, vote for the school board. All starts from the ground up. Vote. Put the right people in the offices who are telling law enforcement, who are spreading lies about the ICE and Border Patrol. Vote. We need to vote from the ground up and take back this country and support law enforcement. We're living in a world right now where law enforcement, all of a sudden, they're the bad guys and the ones that broke the law are the victims. President Trump's going to turn that around when he says he's going to make America great again. He's going to make America safe again. He's going to make America healthy again. Thank God. President Trump.

[B]

Tom, I'd be remiss if I didn't give you a chance. This is our first AM fest without Charlie. He loved you. You loved him. I just wanted to give you a chance to say, say whatever, and we can wrap it up there.

[D]

Charlie is my friend. I love them and I miss him.

[B]

Ladies and gentlemen, Tom Homan.

[D]

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