Chase Gibson (2:39)

of thing, just a stable remembrance for him, you know. And it took off way more than what we were thinking all into God. Charlie was just such an amazing guy. He was so, so good at pulling biblical scripture and for biblical truth within his dialogue and debates, and it was something I really, really, truly looked up to him for. So it was just such a simple thing for us to do, to show our support for him and his family and his remembrance.

Sarah Gibson (3:07)

Absolutely.

Andrew Colvett (3:08)

So.

Charlie Kirk (3:08)

So how many. How many did you end up printing? Or are you still printing them?

Sarah Gibson (3:13)

Oh, boy, we're still printing them. There's been how many? I mean, you.

Chase Gibson (3:18)

I would bet we're over 60,000, 80,000 cups with stickers on them. Just. Just. Yeah, the first to support. I didn't have enough room in my shop to thaw all the yogurt, to be honest. I had to make multiple trips, actually, out to our suppliers just to make sure I had enough to keep going, which, thank goodness for our powerhouse Taylor machines back here. They just. They didn't stop, so it was amazing.

Charlie Kirk (3:47)

I just love having you guys on the show because it sort of feels, Blake, like our version of what President Trump was trying to do last night at the State of the Union and did very well, by the way, but telling real stories of real Americans out there, you know, you did get some pushback, though. So tell us about that. So death threats, menacing messages. Tell us.

Sarah Gibson (4:10)

Exactly. Yeah. So that first day that we put him out, we actually had an in person, you know, somebody kind of shoved me up against my countertop. We had to get the police involved. And then from there, it's been seriously

Blake (4:24)

shoved against a countertop.

Sarah Gibson (4:28)

Not physically with her hands, but backed me up, I should say, into my countertop. Wouldn't leave our store. Even though she said we were the ones that were making her feel uncomfortable. It was a whole thing.

Chase Gibson (4:40)

Yeah, she was too uncomfortable. We've asked her, you know, it's. You can leave. Like, it's okay. Like, I'm too uncomfortable to get up out of my seat.

Sarah Gibson (4:49)

And we're like, well, we'll have the police come get you, no problem. You know, so there was that. And then, yeah, just from there, lots of hate comments. We have received death threats via mail, handwritten mail, via our social medias.

Chase Gibson (5:06)

Yeah, that was one that was interesting to me because I was just like going to the mailbox and, you know, didn't really assume much get there. Most of it's good mail, you know, I would say 90% of our information we're getting from people is positive. 10% is pretty brutal. But, yeah, that comes from me, who's not really on social media, and I've never experienced it. So it's. It was a telltale situation to be in, I think to see different opinions being pushed against us, in a sense. So. But that one was a handwritten note that was. I was colorblind. I'm colorblind. I thought it was red, so it was a little more crazy to me than my wife said it was.

Sarah Gibson (5:49)

Yeah. Basically, just in general, the whole experience has been lots of great. And then mixed in with just. I would say the support has been way overshadowed.

Chase Gibson (5:59)

Yeah, absolutely.

Sarah Gibson (6:00)

The eight, though.

Chase Gibson (6:00)

Yeah.

Charlie Kirk (6:01)

Good, good. Blake, want to get you in here?

Blake (6:05)

No, it all sounds remarkable, I guess. Yeah, we're glad that the support overshadows the hate, for sure. But.

Sarah Gibson (6:13)

Yeah.

Blake (6:13)

Right. Handwritten letters. Do you get the sense is this cranks in the community or was there enough attention, you think, online? Do you think you're getting it from all over the country at least? I guess I'd feel better if it was a lunatic in Massachusetts sending this to you.

Sean Davis (6:27)

Right.

Chase Gibson (6:27)

Well, we just recently have one like that, too.

Charlie Kirk (6:30)

Yeah.

Sarah Gibson (6:30)

I mean, we're still getting messages from all over the country. Initially, Fox News had picked up on us, and so it kind of. We were getting messages from actually all over the world, everywhere. And I mean, just to highlight how much support we were getting to. I mean, there was people calling in with their credit card numbers asking how can they help pay it forward? Or, you know, we had coined the blueberry budget. I'm sure you remember Gigi's blueberry budget. And we donated. Yeah. From the day we started up until Charlie's birthday, we donated 25% of our Charlie Kirk related sales directly to Erica Kirk for the blueberry budget. And then now going forward, we've been donating 5% to our local Turning Point chapters and Club America chapters.

Charlie Kirk (7:19)

Yep.

Chase Gibson (7:19)

And we just had the Turning Point chapter for Northern Idaho College here yesterday, using our space just to watch the state of the union address. So it's very cool to be able to be supportive of these groups. And I think Club America is a pretty big one that we're really getting super stoked to help out with.

Sarah Gibson (7:39)

Yeah.

Charlie Kirk (7:40)

Well, I just want to highlight for the folks at home, you know, you guys did this because you are strong Christians that believe that you are called to spread the gospel in whatever realm that you're in. You have a Grooveberry's froyo shop in Coeur d', Alene, Idaho. So you're spreading the gospel there, and you're standing up. You have worship nights at your shop. You're supporting Club America Turning Point. We got about a minute remaining, guys. I want to just first say, please support them. If you're in that area of the woods, neck of the woods, please go buy grooveberries for your shop. If you're driving through, maybe you live in Seattle and you're driving to go ski in Montana or something, drive through, stop by Grooveberry's. Please support them. These are great patriots, salty earth people. Just tell us, you know, in the last minute that we have here, you know, what does it mean for you and what Charlie's legacy was. President Trump highlighted his that there's a revival going on with young people after Charlie's assassination. Tell us about the faith impact and why that's important to you. One minute.

Sarah Gibson (8:42)

Honestly, it is the number one most important. And that's exactly what Charlie. That's exactly what Charlie stood for, was God first, His devotion and love for Jesus Christ, and he didn't care the persecution that is expected to come with it. And, you know, we are all expected to stand up in his place now. He was our voice, and now we're his.

Chase Gibson (9:00)

Yep. And Charlie just did such a great job at making a point that his relationship with Jesus comes first. And I have started to really try and make my point in life and every day to read my Bible, and I encourage every single person to get in there. There's nothing but positivity and goodness that comes from learning the word of God. So.

Charlie Kirk (9:19)

Yeah, well, I mean, God bless you guys. You guys are such rock stars. We just love you guys. We have your back. Thank you for having our back. And yeah, just God bless you, and God bless. Grooveberries. Keep up the great work.

Sarah Gibson (9:32)

Thank you.

Chase Gibson (9:33)

Thank you so much.

Sarah Gibson (9:34)

God bless you guys.

Charlie Kirk (9:35)

Thanks for coming on. Those were amazing, amazing people. I'm still rock.

Blake (9:40)

I want them at one of our events. Those people ruled.

Charlie Kirk (9:44)

Yeah. We got to reach out to them and invite them to something because that is what makes America a great place. Christians that are cool, that have courage, that are down to do the right thing, and I just pray that they are richly, richly blessed. I pray that they end up becoming, like, the biggest froyo franchise in the country. So help do that. I mean, honestly, I'm gonna go, like, buy some gift cards from them online, and I'll probably never be able to use them. Maybe I will, but I don't care. So that's what I'm going to do.

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Charlie Kirk (11:33)

we have to talk about this road. It's Texas. Blake, why don't you fill our, our audience in on it?

Blake (11:40)

All right. Well, so obviously there are

Sean Davis (11:46)

a lot

Blake (11:46)

of proposals around the country to honor Charlie in various ways because of his accomplishments and, of course, his martyrdom. We have one here in Arizona where we're hoping to name the 202 loop that goes right around this area after him. But one of the proposals was in Texas. It's Bastrop County. This is just outside of Austin. And they had a proposal to designate FM969, which is about a 29 mile stretch of highway going from the town of Bastrop to the Austin area. And they're going to call it the Charlie Kirk corridor. And this is a Republican county. I know Austin is liberal, but this is a conservative leaning county. But apparently dozens of people showed up to a county commission meeting on Monday and were against the proposal. And as a result, they, they folded immediately. Oh, a few dozen people are mad. Dropped the proposal. They are. They put the meeting, they put the vote on hold. And we don't know if it'll ever happen. And I don't think Charlie would be very happy at that. At that level of spine, I must say.

Charlie Kirk (12:54)

Yeah, this is. This is an amazing, I would say, microcosm of the problem that Charlie had with the gop, the traditional gop, the pre Trump gop. They were spineless. They had no guts. This guy basically put it forward, Sure, I will thank him for putting it forward. But then he gets a little bit of pushback, a modicum of pushback, and he folds like a cheap suit. That is unacceptable to me. I would have preferred had he never even put the motion up in the first place than to be cowed by a couple dozen activists that don't want their highway named after Charlie Kirk. It's an absolute insult to the people of Texas, the great state of Texas. To your point, Blake, everything outside of Austin is ruby red. I mean, Dripping Springs is ruby red. Bastrop county is ruby red. Lake Travis area is ruby red. There are great patriots all around Austin, and it is an amazing community of people that I know for a fact support Charlie Kirk. Chip Roy, who was just on yesterday, represents just south of Austin. This is an absolute insult to Charlie's memory. And to your point, like, they're doing this all over the country, and these roads are going to be named in Charlie's honor. He deserves that and so much more. But the fact that the left is so insane right now that they can't celebrate Charlie, who died debating by inviting open debate on college campuses, he did nothing wrong. He did everything right.

Sean Davis (14:22)

And.

Charlie Kirk (14:23)

And they've got a problem with it, is obscene. And this man should have held the line and he should have fought back and should have pushed back and said, thank you for your comments. I'm ignoring them. We're moving forward with it anyways. Instead, he's saying, I'm going to take this motion off. I'm not going to bring it back up. We're going to take a breather, and I'm going to talk with my constituents. And he's not planning on bringing it back up again. I say to him, you are a coward. I wish you would have never done it in the first place. I wish you would have never brought it up in the first place. If you didn't have the spine to follow through on it, shame on you. Yeah, you're exactly what Charlie Kirk fought against in the gop.

Blake (14:57)

You read against what it says. Some held signs that read no to show their opposition. And then Commissioner David Glass, he's quoted in this article from the Hill and He just says, I'm going to take a breath and have some more conversations with my constituents after. After this showed up. And he was the one who originally put it on the voting block. And just again, if you couldn't anticipate that there would be angry liberals who would turn out to trash Charlie, to trash his legacy, to smear him and to oppose this.

Jack Posobiec (15:28)

Yeah.

Blake (15:29)

Why did you even bring this up? If you're going to fold the moment anyone voices the slightest opposition? Why are you even in politics? Actually. Okay, I take that back. You're a perfect representation of a lot of GOP people in politics, but why are you just. It's aggravating in the extreme.

Charlie Kirk (15:49)

But here's the deal. You know, you've got one side that you know is basically trying to honor Charlie. This guy's done a poor job. Okay. And then you got this other side that apparently is so deranged that they can't wrap their mind around honoring Charlie, but they don't have the self awareness to realize that it's their party that's inflicting the violence. It's their party that has a violence problem. Last night at the State of the Union, President Trump asked everybody to stand up against political violence. They refused to do so. It's appalling. And they are telling themselves this lie. And so this is why this is important, Blake. Because when you will not honor Charlie, a victim of political violence, a martyr for American free speech, a Christian martyr, when you won't do that, you are denying that you have a problem of political violence. You're burying your head in the sand and you're not acknowledging it. And they keep telling themselves this lie. This is from CNN from April 2025. This is what they tell themselves. 363. While America's roots are soaked in bloodshed, violence in the country today is mostly

Sean Davis (16:53)

from right wing extremism.

Charlie Kirk (16:56)

From Oklahoma City to Charlottesville to January

Sean Davis (16:59)

6th,

Charlie Kirk (17:01)

there is simply no equivalent on the left. This is what they believe, Blake, and it's appalling.

Blake (17:08)

These people are lunatics. There's this insane lie we just have to endure over and over again. Yeah, like they're where they. It's like that Nazi article the other day in the Atlantic where they're calling you a Nazi because that is their excuse to treat you horribly, to scream at you. And it's all projection from top to bottom. They're the ones who want to censor speech. They're the ones who would try to cancel Charlie's events. They're the ones who would try to censor, scream him off the platform. They're endlessly. They tried to tear him down while he was alive. They tried to tear him down now that he's a martyr. Repulsive creatures. Repulsive.

Charlie Kirk (17:45)

Now welcome into the show is Sean Davis, co founder of the Federalist and CEO. Great man, great American, great patriot. Sean, I'll give you the layup question. Tell me what you thought of the president's State of the Union last night.

Sean Davis (17:59)

I thought it was spectacular. Previously, I thought the best speech he had ever given was the 2020 State of the Union right before COVID hijacked the country in the election. I was in the room that day and he blew the roof off the place. I thought this one was even better. The contrast that he was able to draw between who Democrats work for and who Republicans work for, which America they represent. Turns out Democrats don't really represent America at all. I thought it was great. I thought he laid out a roadmap for getting through the next nine months, winning the election. And the question that I now have is, are Republicans in Congress willing to do what they need to do to keep that momentum and follow that roadmap so they don't get blown out in November?

Blake (18:42)

And Sean, do you think Republicans in the Senate are going to have that do what is necessary to maintain that momentum? I know you've been commenting on that online.

Sean Davis (18:53)

Yeah, Blake, I'm gonna take the under on that one. I don't have a whole lot of confidence. But hey, like, we've got nine months. It's an eternity in politics. There's no one like Trump who has the ability to bully people, especially people on his own side, to do what needs to get done. But what Republicans have to understand is that was an amazing speech. But Donald Trump's not on the ballot. They are. So they have to give people reasons to vote for them. They can't just rely on Donald Trump to do all their work for them.

Charlie Kirk (19:19)

Amen. I think that is such an important point. You have to give the base reasons to turn out. We talk about this in terms of California. This is an easy example. A lot of people aren't focusing on California. They successfully got enough signatures to get voter ID on the ballot in California. That is going to energize California Republicans to turn out. And that might mean the difference of holding the House and not even with the all the shenanigans in California. So I'm so it's so important to give the base what it wants to vote for. You've got to Put wins on the board. This is last night President Trump talking about pass the Save Act. Then I'm going to play Thune's reaction to it this morning and have your reaction. 503. And perhaps most importantly, I'm asking you to approve the Save America act to stop illegal aliens and others who are unpermitted persons from voting in our sacred American elections. And Leader Thune was asked about that this Morning on Fox 504.

Unknown Announcer (20:26)

The Democrats even in the chamber last night, having to sit there and try and defend allowing non citizens to vote in American elections, that is a losing proposition for them. So we will get a vote on it. And we are right now in the middle of a government shutdown. So we've got to try and get the government opened up first. But in due time we will have, we will get that up on the floor. We will have a vote on it. We will make sure that the Democrats are on the record. It is a stark contrast between Republicans and Democrats about how they want to handle elections in this country. And this is going to put them, I think, in a very difficult position. It is an issue. If I were running as a Democrat in the midterm elections in November, I wouldn't want to have to defend.

Charlie Kirk (21:04)

All right, Sean, you have been around swamp creatures for a long time. Can you please translate?

Sean Davis (21:08)

Yes. Classic failure theater. If you listen to what Trump asked for, he said, I want you to pass the Save America Act. I want voter id, I want citizenship verification. And then if you listen to what John Thune said, he didn't say we're going to pass that. He didn't say we're going to make that happen. He said we're going to get a vote on it. Well, congrat your frickin lations. Like it takes no effort to get a vote on something. One senator in the minority can get a vote on whatever he wants, whenever he wants. Getting a vote is not a victory. Getting a vote is failure. If, and even worse, he is allowing Democrats to block the Save America act and to block voter ID by doing nothing. He's basically saying the default here is that we don't do anything unless we have 60 votes. We're not going to require Democrats to come and control the floor and actually talk about why they're opposing it. We're just going to let them vote once and block it and then we're going to move on to other things like permitting reform, whatever, whatever some corporate K Street lobbyist wants. It is failure theater. It is designed to fail. And he is designing it to fail in a way where he can pat himself on the back and be like, well, I did what I said. Well, I was going to do. I gave a vote. We created a contrast. We already have the contrast. What we want is results.

Blake (22:18)

Yeah, I noticed, as far as failure theater goes, the sort of predefeated lines he was using, he's saying, we'll get them on the record. They'll have to account for their vote in November. But the SAVE act is not about holding Democrats accountable for their votes. It is about requiring voter ID in an election. It is about taking steps to prevent potential fraud or the easy signing up of dubious votes. And as you say, the whole thing, it's. It's a song and dance you and I know we've heard for decades. It is just the. It's that sort of fake Senate, the fake Congress, where since the default is nothing will pass other than omnibus spending bills, everything else is phony. And that's actually, that's the best argument for getting rid of the filibuster, is we should have a Congress that actually does things again. And the only way that will happen is if they can pass votes by a majority vote.

Sean Davis (23:11)

Yeah, I. So I probably disagree on getting rid of the filibuster, because I don't think you need to get rid of it. The problem with Republicans in the Senate is they're just lazy. They don't want to do work. They don't want to have to be on the floor every day. They certainly don't want to have to be on the floor Monday through Friday. Like, what are they, normal people having to work 40 hours a week? That's below them. So, you know, in theory, I understand why some people think the filibuster is the problem here, but it's really not. If they were to pass. Nuke the filibuster tomorrow, they might maybe pass one or two bills and then that's it. I mean, to me, the problem here is not structural. The problem is we have members who are too lazy to do the work.

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Charlie Kirk (24:52)

to Blake's Point. This is not a political theater vote. This is saying we have a structural issue in our elections that is going to fundamentally impact the election. So we need to do it before the election. We don't need a contrast vote. We don't need a show vote, a messaging vote. We already know that they're against this. We already know that the Republicans are for it. So be for it and don't be a coward. I. I genuinely. So, yes, Sean, you know this better than I do. I was invited to go to the State of the Union. I was very honored. Andy Ogle's office had me out there. It was great. Loved being there. And they wanted to give me an insider view of the way Capitol Hill works. Right. Because I'd Never lived in D.C. i don't live in. I'm here right now. I don't know it, but they took me to this Capitol Club restaurant. You probably know it. So I go in there. It's not much to see, but it's like all K Street lobbyists. It's all these special interests taking, wining and dining. They have to pay all this money to get a membership. And you just go into this place and your skin starts crawling because you can feel the dubious backroom deals getting, like, hatched right in front of your eyes. And they took me there so that I could see it. I wasn't, like, partaking. I wasn't pleased, but it creeped me out. And you know this swamp system better than most, Sean. This is what I hear when I hear John Thune saying, we're going to get a show vote on this.

Sean Davis (26:15)

Yeah, you're exactly right. It was the Capitol Hill Club, I think, between C and D Street on First Street, Southeast and in right across from the Cannon Building there. Yeah, that. That is where they do their deals. It's where they hang out with each other and have a good time and try to think up all the ways they're going to screw the American public or try to pull the wool over our eyes by not doing what they say said. And that's what people are so frustrated with. And I think it's one reason why Trump has been such a breath of fresh air in politics is the guy says he's going to do something and then he does it. Like what a revolutionary idea in politics to say you're going to do something and then do it. And the thing about midterm elections is they are base elections. You have to give your base a reason to turn out. Yes, Democrats are crazy people who hate America. We get that. But you can't just win on negative vibes against the other side. You have to get your people jacked up on successes that you've pushed through to get them to fight and come to the polls for you.

Charlie Kirk (27:12)

This is, I think, the central message of today's show. It has to be. President Trump got massive positive marks on his speech last night. He laid out the framework and the roadmap for how to win the midterms. Do what he said. Trust, trust Trump on this one.

Blake (27:30)

The weird thing is, is you will win elections by winning. And it's the most frustrating thing with what Thune said. It is the pre defeat. It is the will hold the vote, nothing will change. But, well, look at the contrast. No, you will win by delivering wins for the public and having credible promises of future wins. And the best way to have credible promises of future wins is the list of wins you've already lined up. And people are very, very fed up with fakeness. This is why liberals do well, they often, their ideas are horrible, but they often deliver them.

Charlie Kirk (28:05)

Look at Virginia. Sean Davis, CEO of the Federalist, co founder of the Federalists. I check it every day. You should, too. Great, great reporting there at the Federalist. Thank you, Shaun Davis. God bless you, man.

Sean Davis (28:15)

Thank you, guys.

Charlie Kirk (28:18)

We are joined on set here in D.C. by the one and only Jack Posobic.

Jack Posobiec (28:24)

What's going on? People don't realize that we shop for blazers together. So, you know, is one of our

Charlie Kirk (28:28)

very similar, one of our very similar many trips. Jack, you said something to me that stuck with me. Oh. You said it wasn't just a home run. It was home run derby.

Chase Gibson (28:36)

It really was.

Charlie Kirk (28:37)

So you are a messenger. You're a messenger. You're a conduit of the base and base energy. How important was that speech?

Jack Posobiec (28:43)

Look, I think when you look at the way that President Trump undertook that speech for pretty much every single section of it, he was taking those issues that are right down the middle. It was, you know, a fastball right down the middle. It was like pitching during a home run derby. And he set it up. Of course, they orchestrated it this way to create this trap for the Democrats that, you know, I dare you to be against this. I dare you to be against American citizens. I dare you to be against America. Heroes. I even having Erica there, Erika, with Irina Zarudska, which is just. It blew my mind to be with the parents of Irina Zarudska, to be sitting there. And in fact, Blake and I were in the chat during the speech. We're saying, we're saying, can you tell who Erica is sitting next to? We couldn't, you know, we didn't recognize them.

Charlie Kirk (29:32)

And I don't think she knew who they were.

Andrew Colvett (29:34)

Oh, really? That's my.

Charlie Kirk (29:35)

I haven't talked to her about it, but they, you know, I talked to her before and she was like, I'm going in solo, you know, because it's such limited seats.

Unknown Announcer (29:43)

Yeah.

Andrew Colvett (29:43)

The seats are.

Charlie Kirk (29:43)

So you don't get like a plus one. And so you go in there and it was kind of like, you know, here's the president's area. But you don't. It's not like they introduced.

Charlie Kirk (29:51)

There was.

Jack Posobiec (29:52)

I figured that it wasn't done by chance, though.

Charlie Kirk (29:54)

I figured there was some reason. Charlie. One of Charlie's final things that he messaged so hard on was the murder of Arena Zarus last week.

Jack Posobiec (30:02)

I pulled it up last night, so it was 12:35 Eastern. So just two hours. Literally just two hours.

Sean Davis (30:13)

Yeah.

Charlie Kirk (30:13)

And he believed, he said, we have to politicize this because it was a political malady that created it, that cashless bail, putting repeat criminals back on the streets to murder innocent Americans. And so, yeah, it was a very fitting position.

Jack Posobiec (30:26)

You think of the logistics, by the way, to get a family like that out of Ukraine and all the people to just be in that room at that I can't even imagine. Because we try to get people together

Charlie Kirk (30:37)

for Amfest and it's like, oh, it's herding cats.

Jack Posobiec (30:40)

It's so hard.

Charlie Kirk (30:41)

Yeah.

Charlie Kirk (30:41)

I mean, so the question then becomes, okay, there's been a lot of doomerism. There's been a lot of black pilling. You know, I love. I love Rich Barris like a brother, but he's been very negative on some of the polling that he's seeing. Is this going to be enough? Is this the spark that lights, you know, the midterm big shot in the

Jack Posobiec (31:00)

arm, just to see the president up there showing that he showed the 2024 energy again. And when I was with him down in Georgia at that rally, I could see sparks of it. I remember saying that on the show,

Charlie Kirk (31:10)

that, oh, when you went to Rome

Jack Posobiec (31:11)

just recently, to Rome, Georgia, then he's giving that speech at the, at the steel factory.

Charlie Kirk (31:15)

And we could.

Jack Posobiec (31:17)

I could see. This doesn't seem like 2025 or 2026, Trump. This seems like 2020.

Charlie Kirk (31:22)

You and I, you and I were talking about it. I think people underestimate the weight of the world that exists on a president's shoulders constantly, day in, day out, day in, day out, and to then have to turn around and be a showman, which Trump is very good at. But, you know, you've been in the White House. You've been. You've seen him behind closed doors and the weight that he is under all the time. I think it's. And he's almost 80. Let's just be honest. I mean, he doesn't show signs of it, but, I mean, just, I think, maybe take us into the room. What I mean, that. That balancing act he has to do between making these incredibly difficult decisions in Iran or whatever. Whatever, as well as having to be showman in chief, having to be the lead cheerleader for the country.

Jack Posobiec (32:04)

This is something that I think everyone needs to understand, is that as much as he enjoys putting on the show, he is the greatest showman. We all saw that last night. There's no question that he takes this all very seriously. And when he meets with victims, like he spent the day with the angel families, meeting with Irina Zarutska's parents, meeting with Erica, and they still talk regularly, that checking in the way that he does. He takes this very personally, very honestly. He's a much more emotional guy than I think people give him credit for.

Charlie Kirk (32:35)

Oh, yeah.

Jack Posobiec (32:37)

He could be doing anything else with his life, and people are trying to kill him on a regular basis.

Charlie Kirk (32:44)

Blake will attest. We did a whole show on this yesterday about that speech with the angel families, and he said, I don't know how much longer I'm going to be here. A lot of people are gunning for me.

Sean Davis (32:55)

Yeah.

Charlie Kirk (32:56)

And you think instantly of Charlie. You think instantly of what just happened at Mar A Lago, and you think about the political violence problem on the left. You couldn't even get them to stand up in the gallery for a message against political violence. Blake, I want to bring you in here. I don't, you know, we're on set here, but you realize the weight of the world on President Trump. It's got to be an impossible balancing act. And I don't think we personalize him enough. So sometimes.

Blake (33:19)

Yeah, well, it's. I sometimes think about that. It's got to be one of the most alien experiences in the world for the president, that even when he's not president, he's been the most famous person in the world, I think you could safely say, for a decade at this point. He's always been holding court. He has endless people who are talking to him, endless people who are trying to influence him, endless people who are trying to flatter him. And it does have. And you know, he can. He is endlessly seeing himself on tv and he knows there's a lot of people who would want him dead. I truly do wonder what would it be like to be that person. It's gotta be one of the most unusual existences that anyone has ever lived in the history of the world. And the fact that he's delivered on as much as he has in the past year. I think we should always be grateful in that context that, that he could very easily have said. He could have very easily made a call to a Democrat and said, I will go away and retire forever if you guys just leave me $3 billion and stop trying to put me in jail. And he didn't do that. He instead came back to Washington, made them angrier than ever.

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