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with Noble gold investments@noblegold investments.com that is noblegoldinvestments.com all right. Welcome to the Charlie Kirk show. It is June 10, 2026. We are here at the Y Refi studios in Phoenix, Arizona on the nine month anniversary marker of losing Charlie. So if I seem a bit somber this morning, that's why. But we've got news to cover. There's a lot going on, but we just want to take a moment right here at the top to remember our friend. And I wish I could say it gets easier. Some days are good.
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Some days are not so good. And it's nine months without him. So say a prayer for his family. Say a prayer for Turning Point today. And as Charlie always said, onward. Here we go. So, Blake, lots of news to get to.
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Lots of news.
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But one big story, one huge story.
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We fretted about it yesterday. They were going to jury deliberations. We were worried about could anything happen, could they settle for manslaughter. Thankfully, they did not very quickly. About three hours. That's quick for a modern trial. The trial in the Carmelo Anthony murder of Austin Metcalfe. Jury came back guilty and pretty much immediately sentenced to 35 years in prison. So the real story we have today is really what the reason this has taken off because sadly the there are thousands of murders in America every year. Some of them we get justice, some of them we don't. But this has caught fire because of how it got viral attention. How many people were defending Carmelo Anthony's Actions.
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Defending the indefensible.
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Defending the indefensible and continuing to do so. And in fact getting worse since this verdict came down.
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Yeah.
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So what we really want to do today is dive into those reactions.
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And candidly, we said it before the show, our commentary probably can't add a whole heck of a lot because the way that they talk, the things that they say says it all. So we're just gonna start playing the clips and let us know what you think. Send us an email. Freedom charliekirk.com Let us know what you think about the reaction to a 35 year sentence for a murder. Defending the indefensible. That's what we're seeing. Sat 21, I don't talk.
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This was a legal lynching that happened
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in here, all right?
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I said as a former prosecutor, this was a legal lynching that happened in this slaughterhouse. This is a slaughterhouse. This is not a courthouse. This courthouse is designed when you will come here and you look like us, to slaughter you.
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She calls it a slaughterhouse. It was illegal lynching. And she said if you look like us, if you have black skin, well, it's a slaughterhouse for you. That's interesting. You know, the slaughterhouse was Carmelo Anthony stabbing Austin Metcalfe for no reason. You know what's interesting about this too, by the way? We'll keep playing the clips. But just how lies. So many work on the Internet in this new modern age that they really believe that he was acting in self defense. Despite eyewitnesses, despite the video, they believed
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it was self defense. They believed he somehow, some people were saying he was set upon by a mob, he was surrounded, that they would have, they would have murdered him if he had not immediately defended himself. We've seen some really outrageous ones and we've got some of their supporters, they were being interviewed outside the courthouse afterwards and they were again, they were saying things that are practically unbelievable. How about we get this one? What do I tell my children, number 23?
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What do you want us to do? What do you want us to do at this point? What I'm lost for? I don't know what to do. I got five boys, I don't know what. I ain't got nothing to tell them no more. You can't walk away no more. Rest in peace, Trayvon Martin.
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You can't walk away. He didn't walk away. He stabbed Austin Metcalfe.
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You could walk away.
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He could have walked away. If he would have walked away, we wouldn't be talking about this right now.
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I saw a dark joke that when he's in prison, at some point Carmel Anthony is going to be told by a guard or another prisoner to move, and he's going to do it. And then it will click in his head. It was this easy the whole time.
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Yeah, Yeah. I mean, probably true. Dominique Alexander, one of his attorneys and a family representative, said that black lives don't matter in Collin County. It's also absurd. SOT 24.
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But what this process did is shown that black lives do not matter in Collin County.
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It showed up that time and time in American history, it has shown us to remove emotions from yet the law. This trial showed that it put emotions over the law. After Trayvon Martin and so many countless names, it has shown us that black life is not safe in Collin County. He's sort of doing his best MLK impersonation there. And it's not working. I mean, it just keeps going on. We have so many. How about this one just keeps getting more vile. Clip 25. Sources have told me that they found
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Carmelo Anthony guilty of killing that white boy.
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And honestly, Chad, can't really expect much in America.
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I didn't think you would get found guilty, but I kind of. I'm not surprised by this. When you know what the criminal justice system is and what it's really meant to do, you don't get surprised at outcomes like this. They'll let that Rick child out, but they won't free criminal Anthony, a man who actually had his life threatened by two big white boys. It was me. I've stabbed both.
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But free Carmelo Anthony, man.
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Nobody.
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If you couldn't pick that up. He was swearing multiple times there. Insulting, insulting Metcalf. Austin Metcalf insulting his brother, saying he said there. I would have stabbed both of them.
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And that was not an isolated sentiment. Actually, another supporter said that they should have also killed Austin Metcalfe's twin brother. Let's have clip 27.
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Brother would have been with him.
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They should have both been arrested.
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Both of them should have been dead.
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Both of them should have been dead. Both brothers, if you ask me. If you couldn't quite make that out. And I think you could hear some people were agreeing with that.
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Yeah. And it. And real classy stuff. Real, real classy stuff. And, you know, it never ceases to amaze me in how many instances somebody gets victimized. A family is brutally and tragically forever changed and altered by the loss of their firstborn son, and somehow they become the villain of the story for some people. Now, I don't think this is widely held, but listen, even some elected officials are talking this way. Queue up the gem. Jasmine Crockett South 30 if a 300
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pound man is beating me like on top of me and beating me down, I I'm not limited to fist. You know, I would argue that even the only time we go into things like people's hands being considered deadly weapons is typically like if they're a professional boxer or that kind of stuff. But I think by the time you start getting to like football player. Good argument. Good freaking argument. We're not talking about like the golfers, we're talking about football players, right? Like this is what they are trained to do is to inflict like serious physical contact.
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None of that is at all relevant to this instance at all. That is a an elected representative that was within a hair of being the Democrat nominee for Senate in the state of Texas.
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Oh, we'd have been so lucky if that happened.
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So few days ago we had yet another heinous crime in the uk. This used to be something that maybe would happen once a decade in the old Britain, but in the new Britain, the Duh UK as they call it online, they have mass migration. They're having crimes that I would say we got used to in the US a little a while ago and now they're in Britain where they never needed to have them. And so the most recent viral one, a clip, an attempted beheading by a recent person granted asylum from Sudan da Sudan, Dustudan da Sudan. And he tried to decapitate someone. Very gory video. The person did survive well, because they rushed bystanders, hit him with a shovel,
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God bless those people for doing that. But heinous crime regardless. And this is Belfast, for those who don't remember, Belfast is in Northern Ireland. This is the place where they had the sectarian Catholic versus Protestant divide for decades. And what this means is this is a place where you have ordinary British people who have more history than the rest of the British Isles with violent anti government demonstrations and for lack of a better term, low level insurgency behavior.
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And they're flexing that muscle again.
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They're livid. And they started to, let's be frank, they started to riot. And they know how to riot, unlike most native Brits.
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Yeah, well, let's go ahead and play a report here that'll sum it all up for you. SOP53 There was mayhem on the streets
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of Belfast, Northern Ireland last night with a very anti immigrant Bentley. Masked and hooded men burning families out of their homes, setting on fire stores and other businesses, torching numerous vehicles including buses and attacking police. All sparked by the brutal stabbing by a 30 year old Sudanese man, Hale Alodid, of a 44 year old resident of Northern Ireland. What has spurred the violence is the suspect made his way to Northern Ireland from Ireland, a member of the European Union and was on a five year visa seeking asylum. Critics complain the anger is due to lax policies here and in other European countries regarding immigration. Amid calls for a tightening up of who gets into the country, there was a new call from officials for locals not to take to the streets again tonight, along with a doubling up of police deployments to try to maintain calm.
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So what he says there with them burning homes, specifically what they were doing is they're all masked up, they know to do that and they're going after what are called HMOs, which we have those in the U.S. it's health insurance thing. HMO in the UK is house in multiple occupation, which is basically a bunch of unrelated people packed into a home because they're migrants, they're asylum seekers. And so imagine an apartment in your community and they just move four unrelated, you know, young military age men, as Charlie would like to say, into a home next door because they're asylum seekers, like this guy. They're torching those.
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Yeah, well, and we have those. I mean I used to live in Los Angeles and all the illegals would live four or five families deep into an apartment complex.
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31 people in one complex.
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So this is a common tactic used throughout the world, it turns out, at least throughout the developing world, developed world, when we have migrant crises like this. So yeah, they are torching these. Listen, I'm not calling for violence, so I don't condone or support torching buildings. But here's the deal. When I walked into the office this morning, I said, good, somebody needs to be upset about this stuff. The UK is so limp wristed and so scared of its own shadow. They need to see real men really pissed off. They need to see that. And guess what? They're gonna villainize these men. These are the bad guys. And this is not a clip from the UK but it's commonwealth and it's going to show you exactly the western progressive mindset when it comes to this stuff. They are more mad at these men that are rightfully and righteously indignant and angry than they are at this Sudanese migrant that Tried to behead somebody on the street. Okay, let's just show this. They're blaming Elon Musk for this in Australia. 52.
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A violent knife attack by a Sudanese asylum seeker in Belfast on Monday led to a night of riots and vehicles set alight in the city. Video of the horrific knife attack, which we've chosen not to show, was posted online. Far right agitators then shared the material, using it to stoke racial tensions and push for violent retribution. The UK regulator has powers directing tech companies to remove violent posts and control racially charged responses. But Elon Musk chose instead to double down on inciting rhetoric on his platform.
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You are such a fraud, whoever that lady is. So it's Elon Musk's fault that your cucked politicians invite millions of foreigners from the third world that like to behead people in the streets? That's Elon Musk's fault. Oh, and it's also the native born Brits fault and Northern Irish fault for getting upset that you've done this to them, that you've transformed their society over the course of a couple years. Up yours, lady. Seriously, listen to yourself. The liberal mind is a freaking marvel. Honestly, I don't know how she said all those words together and didn't catch herself. That's Elon Musk's fault that he was trying to behead this Northern Irishman in the streets. Absolutely infuriating. But this is what's happening across the West. This is what we're dealing with. Our societies have been absolutely transformed through mass migration, invasion levels of migration, and Blake's the history student here, but I can't help but think of like the Viking invasions of the Isles and what they put up with and what they, they mounted to fight off the invaders. And then you compare that to this.
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I mean, Britain's. They fought off Hitler, they fought off Napoleon, they fought off every attempt to conquer them for a thousand years, going back to the battle of Staines.
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And now they say, invade me harder, Daddy. For 250 years, America has been a bastion of freedom. And as we look ahead to the next 250, we're reminded that freedom is ours to defend. Today, Alliance Defending Freedom stands in courtrooms across the country to protect those freedoms we cherish, like life. Free speech, religious freedom, parental rights. These freedoms are at the core of who we are as a nation. And they're under siege, but they must be preserved. Adf, great people at adf, is approaching a critical fiscal year end fundraising deadline. Your support today helps ADF defend those freedoms. So they may endure for many years to come. Every dollar you give right now will be doubled thanks to a special matching grant while funds last visit joinadf.com charlie that's joinadf.com charlie or text charlie to 83848 to give today. That's joinadf.com Charlie or text Charlie to 83848 help ADF. They are some of the greatest people out there and their amazing legal minds and ADF are on the front lines fighting for what matters most to us in this audience. So check them out. JoinADF.com Charlie we have a great guest on the show now is one of Charlie's favorite guests and that is Vince Everett Ellison. He is the author of the End of Tolerance. He is a, I believe a real civil rights leader in this country. Vince, welcome back to the, to the show. It's great to see you Andrew.
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It's so good to see you again brother. How you doing?
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I'm doing great. You know it's nine months since we lost Charlie so a little bit somber in that way. But it's wonderful to see your face and you helped me remember all the good times and when you came on the show with Charlie and you guys would get in some trouble together which is always a lot of fun. I gotta, that was a lot of fun, man.
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You remember, you remember when I last saw Charlie you were with me and he told me you had my back but nobody else did. So we, yeah, we, we, we don't back down, Andrew. Me, you are Charlie. We don't back down.
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That's right. That's right. Well listen, I mean there's a lot of stuff in the news that made me think about you this morning. And obviously first and foremost is the Carmelo Anthony verdict we sent. We spent the whole first segment, Vince, playing these deranged reactions to the verdict and I just couldn't believe it. It was like they are reading a different script, they are reading different facts. They all think that this was self defense, that these huge, you know, £300 football players were trying to kill him and he tried to run away and he accidentally impaled himself on a self defensive weapon.
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But some have been saying we wish both of the Metcalf brothers had been killed. We have a clip, it's a minute long. We could play it if we want but it's. They're bullying his family as they leave the courthouse.
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They're leaving the courthouse. Yeah. Yeah. Let's get your reaction first and then we'll play that clip. Vince, what do you make of this? This? I mean, it's like two different realities.
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Andrew's one of the saddest things I've ever seen. I remember when I was with you guys about two months ago, we were down in Phoenix. I was talking to a lot of the people there. A lot of them were my peers. We're about the same age. And we were aghast. You know, a lot of them were white men, and, you know, I'm a black guy. We were aghast at the racial tension because we kind of went to. Started going to school during the time when schools were integrated back in the late 60s, early 70s. And we talked about how we just got along fine, how we played football together, how we played basketball together, how there was very little racial strife in the community then, and people were thinking that we were going to be the ones fighting and hurting each other, but we weren't. And we're amazed that our grandchildren have more racial strife than we had 50 years ago. They gented up. And you remember when it started happening after Barack Obama, Trayvon Martin, Michael Brown, every incident they could find, they used it to tell this new American generation that they were in a racist nation, that white Americans hated them. And it's really nothing that we can do on this side. It might be something, but it's. But every time we try to. Try to Try to reconcile, try to bring people together under this banner of Americanism and Christianity and love, they're going to find something, the smallest thing that they can find to throw gasoline on a fire, and they're going to gaslight people and lie to people, because the only thing they have is hatred, envy and strife. This is all they have. They have to make the people believe that in America they're hated. To keep them in fear, keep them in envy, keep them in strife. That's their game. Ever since the Civil War, that's been the left and the Democrats party's game. And they haven't stopped playing it for the last 150 years.
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Man, I just. You speak with such moral clarity, Vince. It's refreshing. So this is what you're talking about. This is a clip of this. And we will play the harassing the Family clip in just a second. But sat 32, Collin County, Dallas, Texas,
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Arlington, Grand Perry, Irvin Downward, Plano, Denton, Keller. It ain't safe for none of you white folks to come out this weekend. I'm giving y' all a fair warning right now. And guess what? It's gonna be a bunch of outside that look like me. And we ain't out there with no pocket knives. We out there with these. I guarantee y'. All. Y' all gonna pay for what that judge just did to Carmelo. And if you don't believe me, bring out Bold out this weekend and put on your Austin Matt Cow shirts and see what happened to you.
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So there's a black man just openly threatening all white people. All white people. Don't come out of your house. It's not safe. They're gonna inflict bodily harm or worse. And so that's the vibe in certain segments of the Internet right now.
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Vince, that is so disgusting. It is weird to watch this, Andrew, because I can recall. Well, I can't recall. I'm reading history. And we all see the old grainy black and white footage of the civil rights movement and how the old KKK and the old racist Democrats were back then and how we want to try to elevate and change that. It looked like America did a very good job at doing that. But it's like there's a part of the black community has turned into what we've hated. This racist, ignorant, violent group of people who look at everything through the prism of race. It's like a boomerang effect where it is this class of African Americans, mostly on the left, who mirror exactly who the old racist Democrat KKK was back in the night, back before 1970 in the South. Hatred, envy, strife, anger, vitriol, everything through the prism of race and extreme violence. So we've gotten a culture. And I think that this hip hop music and this gangster rap has kind of pushed it and kind of permeated it. And when you see Sharpton and Ben Crump and Pastor Bryant and a lot of these black preachers, they push this ideology of hatred, envy, and revenge. And they talk about violence, hurting people, taking revenge, killing people. It'll come from the pulpit. In my first book, the Iron Triangle, I talk about how this black liberation theology in the church wants to use the black church as a political arm, which, as you and I both know, that when you talk about politics, you're talking about violence by the barrel of a gun. That's all politics is, is forced. So they want to now turn the black community to cannon fodder again. For them to go out in the streets and call racial strife, to make the world believe that America is this racist, evil nation, something that is not. We have black people in America live better than any other black group in the world in the history of the world. We have more money, have more freedom, have A better education, have greater incomes. But they have led us to believe in large segments of the American population that we've been discriminated against, we've been hurt, and we'll be maligned. It's difficult to see that when everybody. We have an obesity problem in the black community, right? Everybody has an iPhone, everybody has housing, and everybody has cars, Everybody has free medical care. Everybody has EBT card. You have what you want, but you're still angry. Where does that come from? It's just gonna. It's a satanic influence, and it comes from the left.
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I love that, Vince. I love that line. I've used it myself, that we should look that black Americans live better than blacks anywhere else in the world, in Africa, in the rest of America. And it's a remarkable achievement. And I really like that point about the cultural rot because I think about how it's led to this horrible tragedy in Texas. As we've said, it's so unnecessary, but it's a pattern that we have seen that. What Carmelo Anthony did is he went into a situation to essentially create trouble. He went where he wasn't supposed to be, and when he was asked to leave, he refused and immediately escalated to maximal violence. And I just thought how we see that. We play that. We see that play out on subway cars, on buses, when someone is playing music really loudly when they're not supposed to, or maybe they're smoking weed in a train car and you're not supposed to do that, Doing something and almost daring someone to ask you to stop. And then they escalate and we get horrific violence. And that's a cultural rot problem. We need to communicate. And that would start from parents, it would start from religious leaders, and it would start from community leaders to say, this is unacceptable behavior. And if you do this, you will be shamed, you'll be shunned, and if you lash out, you will be arrested. And that will, in the long run, it will save lives and it will keep black men out of prison, and it will improve their lives.
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Well, Andrew, you and I both are believers, and we read our Bibles and we live our lives by them, by it. And one of the things our Bible tells us is that God hates pride. Pride is one of the seven deadly sins. But right now, in June, we have a whole month celebrating what gay pride we have. We'll walk around talking about black pride. And it's a. It's a sin that God hates, but they use it in a. In. In a way. And, you know, Satan is crafty Right. He'll take something that's negative, he'll make it a positive. So he, he's taking pride, which is something that God hates. And he's made it a positive in the black community and actually in the gay community also. Black pride, gay pride. And these men walk around proud, you know, and, and, and what's the opposite of, of pride? It's humility, it's humbleness, it's manners, it's, it's de escalation is what I've learned as a man growing up, and I know that you do too, that if, you know, I'm not going to argue with you over a parking space. If I'm pulling in and you say, hey, man, that's my space. I'm like, hey, brother, it's yours. Anything I get. Are we okay? Yeah, we're fine. I'm not going to argue with you about a seat on a bus. If you want it, I'll give them. Say, brother, you can have it. Are we all right? Yes, we're okay. Okay. If I bump into you, I'm going to say, hey, man, I'm sorry. I apologize. Is there anything I can do to make it right? De escalate, Be humble. But they don't want to do it.
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It's because you have a right view of theology, of your faith. You understand your relation to your Heavenly Father, and you come under him, you understand that concept. And that's the problem. You talk about the progressive church, the black church. A lot of these bad ideas are getting spun up there, but there's more. I just gotta play one other clip here, Vince. And because, you know, we, well, and we talked about the family getting harassed. So let's go ahead and play the family getting harassed actually first, and that is 48. 48.
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You guys knew he was a bully. You guys knew he was a bully. Me, I want you guys to know
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The phone is. My phone is at my head.
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The guy in the back is his brother.
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You guys knew that we're Carmelo Anthony. Was, was 5, 9, 5, 8, something like that. So you had two of those people standing over him. You said 9 o'. Clock. You said 9 o'.
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Clock. Everybody is pressed. You have freedom of press. It's the First Amendment.
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They said, I'm glad Austin's dead. Your son was a bully.
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And we don't have a video of this, but we've heard reports that the family was targeted by swattings multiple times.
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Yeah. And you know, his father, Jeff, just said, you know, I forgave you day one. But you know, you have. You have basically ended the man that I was. That man no longer exists because you, you. You can't look me in the eye, but you can. You can kill my effing son. And really tragic. And then for them to be hurled all this abuse upon them, it's just. It's heartbreaking to watch. I gotta get your reaction here though, Vince, on Jasmine Crockett. Because you were talking about this victim mentality. And nobody exhibits this more profoundly, I think, and dumbly, stupidly, than Rep. Crockett. Okay?
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31 black women, especially black women who have black male children, live in fear and agony every single day. A fear and agony that I promise you. The Metcalfs probably never spent a day living that way. And we're gonna have to have just some real conversations about race in this country.
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So that is. I don't know, Vince, your reaction?
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Well, that's a Christian, Charlie. I know My Bible says 365 times that for every day of the year, to fear not. It's not a suggestion, it's a commandment. So if you say that you're walking around the United States of America in fear, you're not a Christian because you're disobeying God. It's a commandment that we fear not. And as a man, I'm not going to walk around in my country being afraid of anyone. Fear is a state of mind. And what they do is they put these artificial barriers in front of you. They tell you to be afraid of things that do not exist. They walk around white Americans believing that every white person they see is sitting there saying, it is my goal in life to make Tyrone Johnson's life a living hell. That you guys are sitting around like the Legion of Doom, plotting to destroy every black man that you see. It is an imaginary. It is the narcissism. It is ridiculous. Nevertheless, when you're told from the pulpit, when you're told from the. From all these civil rights groups, and when you're so told from black politicians, the highest people in our society, this is what's going on to a people that are isolated in these segregated black districts, in these segregated schools, in these ghettos, amongst all of these race bathing cowards that make me sick. This is what they hear. It is in their music, it is in their culture, it is in their churches. And this is why TP USA is so important. You want a few organizations out there that are putting people out there like me to go out there every day and tell the truth about this. You know, we. We go out there and we tell the truth. You give people like me platforms to go out there and tell the truth. And because of this, we are changing the whole conversation. You saw what happened in the past election. The, the. The. Our side doubled our percentage of the African American vote. And even though our president is losing support in most of America, he's gaining it on the black side. Why? Because you guys are giving people like me a platform to go out there and talk to the masses and tell the truth. And they're responding to it. See, we tell the truth and they lie. And when we tell the truth, their lives have to dissipate. So in America, you can have anything that you want if you're willing to work for it, if you're willing to be honest, and if you're willing to go out there and compete, you'll be fine. They don't want you to believe that. If you ever believe that, they're done.
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Well said, my friend. And God bless you for that. I'm tempted. I had to play this clip. I've been going back and forth on it. This is from the SBLC hearing yesterday with Alveda King. Asked about a question. I figured it's a little full circle moment for us here, but. Stop. 47.
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You knew Charlie Kirk and his work, didn't you?
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I did know Charlie Kirk and his work.
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Like your work was about love, people getting along, but it was also about
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teaching of the benefits of faith, wasn't it?
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I was able to make some peace
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with Charlie before he was killed because
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he said some bad things about my uncle. I didn't like it. I was upset and I said, Charlie. But one of the last things Charlie said to an African American young man, he says, our DNA makes us the
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same, not the skin.
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Charlie actually said that.
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And he publicly apologized at a meeting where I was.
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So Charlie was not an angel.
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I'm definitely not an angel. President Trump, Biden, Obama angels, please raise
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your hand right now if you're out there.
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I need to meet you. I actually thought that was a gracious moment from Alveda King, you know, because obviously Charlie had some strong opinions about mlk. You shared some of those, Vince. But. So that would be a very personal, you know, moment for Alveda. I understand that. But she was gracious about it. Floor is yours, my friend.
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Well, you know, Charlie just told the truth, just like I do. And what we do is we look at the black community and we're looking at things like this that happen in the Black community where we've turned ourselves over to savages to educate our children. You. You and I both know you don't turn your children over to the state to have your children educated. Christian children educated because the state is secular and it's going to teach you their secular ways. And because of that, you know, our children now are in a public educational system that teaches them that they are victims. That teaches them this intersectionality that Charlie talks about to teach them that America is a racist nation. That teaches them that in the nation of your birth, you are less than. That this nation is irredeemable. That when you go out and try your best, you still can't make it. And all of that is a lie. Instead of putting together government programs that control the black community and control America, we should have been telling government to step back and turn us over to Christ, turn us over to our churches, turn us over to our synagogues. This is where we want to go. Turn us over to family. Instead, we have a group of people who are controlling the black community. And I tell them every single solitary day, every single solitary day that they don't have their boot list, they're discriminated against, they're hated, and that to turn to government for their. For everything that they need and to not turn to God. That is why Charlie Kirk said what he said about the civil rights movement, and that's why I say it today. And I'm glad that many other people started to catch on because of Charlie Kirk and because he was so brave to tell the truth. Now you'll see that the college industry and we're going to be.
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Thank you for joining us today. So good to see you, my friend. God bless you. We'll see you soon.
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Me back anytime.
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Well, thank you so much for having me. It was a great night last night. And you're right, it was a crowded field. But, you know, we did a lot of grassroots, something that I know Charlie Kirk did really well, you know, getting out. We got to all 46 counties between July and December of last year, shaking hands, talking to people, having great dialogue. And the rural counties came out for me. And so we're going to do as much as we can in the next two weeks. Our runoff cycle is pretty tight, but it works good. Talking to people and asking for their vote works.
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Yeah. This is amazing, though. I mean, look at this field that you were up against. Alan Wilson. Right, of course. Who's going to be in the runoff with you? Ralph Norman. A lot of people know and love Ralph. Nancy Mace, I mean, this is so when people look at that, and it was you got almost 30% of the vote, but that is a crowded field with a lot of heavyweight power. And you pulled it off. You actually secured President Trump's endorsement. So congratulations on that. Why do you think ultimately you were able to get that endorsement from President Trump? Turnpoint action. What sets you apart here, Pamela?
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Well, you know, the president getting his endorsement was such an honor and incredibly humbling. But he said it really well. He said, you know, you're a businesswoman. You've been with me from the beginning, and you, you're the only one in this field. He said, I know all the people running, and you're the only one that can bring the American first agenda and keep it alive and well in South Carolina. Eliminating state income tax, getting rid of useless regulations, making sure our judges are elected the right way. He said, you have the business sense, you have the political sense. And he called me last night and said, great job, and that he was going to do everything he could to get me over this finish line. We were going to win the runoff and win big.
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Wow. I mean, that's a huge deal, especially in such a crowded field here. Tell the audience that maybe still getting to know you for the first time here. What is your backstory? You mentioned businesswoman. Tell us a little bit about your origin story here. Obviously, you're the lieutenant governor currently, but,
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yeah, that's just the smallest part of my life. You know, I said, I've held a lot of titles over my life. Being a mom and a wife is the best title I've ever had. But, you know, I'm an accountant by trade. I'm an entrepreneur at heart. I started a payroll HR company from an office in my home and grew it into a national company. Was just really excited about President Trump jumping into the arena when it came to being president. I started supporting him right away because we didn't need any more career politicians. We needed a businessperson who could come in and understand what we were going through. And that's how Governor McMaster and I met. Also a longtime supporter of the president. I'm the first lieutenant governor ever elected with a governor here in South Carolina. And so the governor called me one day and asked me to come and talk to him. And when I asked him why he wanted me to be his running mate, he said, because I want a businessperson, somebody who has signed the front of paychecks, who understands when government gets too big and too bloated and gets too deep into people's lives, it's really bad. And he goes, and I want you out there telling me what we're doing good and what we're not. And so that's what I've done. For eight years, I've only been in political office. This is my eighth year. And I've loved it. I've loved helping people. I've loved fighting for school choice. I've loved fighting for medical freedom. I mean, all the things are important to me as a mom. I got to bring with me to this office, and I got to bring all the business knowledge that I acquired from starting and growing my own business. And it has really been an honor to serve the people of South Carolina.
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I love that. It just seems like you're kind of a common sense, somebody that's built something from the ground up. That's so refreshing there. You talked earlier about the grassroots part. Obviously, that's near and dear to us at Turning Point Action. That's what we do day in and day out. We're out there chasing votes, we're out there trying to get people registered. Explain how important that was for you. And I think people also kind of. And this was Charlie's secret sauce, actually, because he was constantly interacting with people. What that does to you, the candidate, it changes you. It changes how you message. It changes how you are interpreting their needs, wants, concerns of real people, real voters on the ground.
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So you're absolutely right. I went to between July and up to two weeks ago. So from July last year to now, not quite a year, I had my team go back. We did over 200 meet and greets, town halls and forums all over the state. And it was good. I mean, I've been to all those counties many times as lieutenant governor, but just to sit down with the people. And I didn't just go to Republican strongholds. You know, I had people say to me when I was going to Hampton county, like, are there 25 Republicans in Hampton County? Like, why are you going there? And I had a packed room because people were just, nobody ever came to talk to them. And they wanted to know, like, what did I think? And they wanted to tell me what they were thinking and how they wanted to see their little part of heaven here in South Carolina, how that should grow. And so it was eye opening for me, and it gave me an even deeper respect for our farmers because their life is not easy and they're so resilient that they never complain. And so everybody just kind of takes for granted that everything's going well and it's, and I, you know, I promised our agriculture community and our forestry community that I would put a liaison right in the governor's office so that we could work with President Trump to handle their problems and issues in real time and not waiting, you know, until they boiled up to us. And it just gave me a whole new insight of where I need to focus my attention as governor and how do I better serve the people.
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Wow, I love that story. And what you said about the farmers, they just, they're so resilient. They never complain. So every thinks it's going great. I mean, these are the Those are the people that we should be in their corner, you know, that we need to have their backs. And I love that you are a candidate that sounds like you got a ton of support from rural South Carolina. Right. And those are the heartbeat of our country still. I mean the rural, rural Americans and they get forgotten about and left beside so often. Pamela. So just again I'm trying to introduce you to our audience here, our national audience. Rattle off the top three or top five issues that you're going to address as governor.
C
So first and foremost, on day one, we're going to eliminate state income tax because we need to put money back in the homes of hard working South Carolinians and we're going to lower property taxes because nobody should ever be able to be taxed out of their home home. We're going to work on regulations here in South Carolina, a bright red conservative state. We have over 80,000 regulations in our state. It was one of the things that energized me to saying yes to the governor and leaving my business to come here and serve was because we have too many regulations and it's too hard on businesses and it makes it hard for them to be profitable. So we're going to get rid of them. And judges. We're only one of two states that allows the General assembly to elect our judges. And you know, perception is reality and if people feel that justice is not being delivered fairly, then they get very skeptical of it. And it's one thing we can't have happen here in South Carolina or in this nation. So I am saying that I think the governor should appoint, the general assembly can confirm. We need to keep them term limited because it's a powerful position and we need a review process. So if we have judges that are going to off the rails, we have a mechanism to take them off the bench.
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Well, that all sounds great. And I want everybody to get behind her campaign. So what's the date of the next of the runoff?
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June 23rd is the runoff. So 13 days from today. We need to see a big turnout and you know, you guys are wonderful. I told a story, a very personal story. My son is 19, he's in a college, he goes to college here in South Carolina. And just how much Charlie had shaped his life and the life of his friends. It was, I mean he was the first call I got when Charlie was shot and he was so tore up. Something you don't often see in an 18 year old. But it is meant the world.
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Thank you for that. That means the world to us. To hear that it's nine months since we lost him today. So God bless you. We're behind you 100%. Go out and win it.
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Thank you.
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All right, so give us the bad news out of South Carolina. Pamela was the good news. And what's the bad?
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Well, as you know, this was also primary night for another lawmaker. It was Lindsey Graham facing the voters again in South Carolina. We had multiple candidates on who challenged him. We had Mark lynch on several times. We had Paul Danz on before he dropped out. We urged you all to. You just had to keep him below 50%. Unfortunately, not enough of South Carolina was able to get us over that threshold. Yeah, he romped.
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He got well over 50%, almost 57% of the vote.
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Yep. So he's, he's probably headed back to the Senate for another term.
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He's definitely headed. But we had six more years of Lady Graham. And what can I say? We tried. Okay. We tried. And listen, I don't know what's going on in South Carolina, to be perfectly honest. There's like a weird political streak. It's hard to explain.
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It's like, it's like a warp in space time where it's still 2011 or something. Still, like the number one issue is we have to, you know, remain firm on the Afghan and Iraq wars and
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we still have to arm the Taliban. Train up. Yeah, exactly. I don't know what the heck's going on anyway, so that's disappointing. But there's some good news out of South Carolina. We wanted to highlight that. And Turning Point Action has endorsed Pamela. So get behind her campaign. She's a good one. There is other news. I mean, there was one good news. I will. I'm trying to find the good news in some of the electoral map. Okay, so Spencer Pratt obviously got gamed in. The DSA folks went and ballot harvested and chose Nithya Raman to get rid of Spencer Pratt. But the also good news is that Tom Steyer is not going to be in the top two for the governorship. That goes to our friend Steve Hilton, who has secured that second spot next to Javier Becerra. And here's the other good news. Tom Steyer burned through $215 million in cash for a second time and still couldn't get over the threshold to get into the run.
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I like, I like seeing left wing billionaires set money on fire. When Bloomberg did that in 2020, he spent what did. He blew 300, $400 million, I think, on the primary race. And he was, he was Guaranteeing everyone a full salary all the way till election day. He was buying. I think he bought the last words of Kirk Douglas.
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Yeah.
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And he was like, you know, Bloomberg can get it done. Shuffles off the mortal coal.
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He.
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He set a lot of money on fire in that race, and it made me happy when it failed.
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Well, so to put that in context, so he spent $209 million flooding the airways of California with political ads. That's about two thirds of all ad spending in the entire governor's race, including dozens of candidates and outside groups. So if you looked at the governor's race in California, there was dozens of candidates. You know, we focus on Bianco and Hilton and Becerra, and there was Swalwell for a time, so that's included in it. Potato. Ms. Potato. Katie Porter was in there. So it was a flooded list. He spent two thirds of all the money of the airwaves. Becero was the second highest spending candidate on ads who spent 11.7. So he spent 11.7 million on ads. Steyer spent 209 million on ads. Six years ago, Steyer used a similar strategy in his bid for president, giving his campaign more than 300 million, 318 million in contributions and another 24 million in loans, according to the camp. So he just lit all his money on fire.
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And God bless him.
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God bless him. All right, so we're gonna be bringing on Brandon Gill in the next segment. It's an important thing. We got a lot of updates from Brandon on the SPLC and some different hearings that he's chairing and working on. But, Blake, you have to tell us about worms. And this is a. This is a. Oh, you want to talk about the worms? We got to talk about the worms. Have you guys heard about this? They're screw worms.
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They're called screw worms. They're a parasite. They affect livestock. And they're very ominous because most parasitic flies, they'll. Man, we're talking about parasitic flies on the show. We're going downhill. But they'll. They'll infest dead flesh. So if you're ill, if you have story, you get rotting flesh that will be infested by flies. But there's also this screw worm. What's so terrible about it is it infests healthy flesh. You get these flies, they'll land on you. They'll lay your eggs, and it starts rotting, and they affect livestock. You get them in your cattle, and you've got to call the cattle herd hugely economically destructive.
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So how did we get here, Blake?
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Well, how did we get here is we eradicated this fly from the US
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in the 80s and 80s.
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In the 80s and 90s, we spent millions of dollars on wiping this out. Drove it all the way to Panama. We wiped it out of Mexico and Central America too. Drove it to Panama. It's still in. We're not going to get it out of the Amazon, but we drove it to Panama and there it was for years. And then. And we spent just. We spent trivial money like 10, $15 million a year to maintain that barrier upkeep. And then in 2022, the screw worm got through Panama and it got back into Central America. We're showing it there.
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No, that. That's the fly that lays it.
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There we go, the maggots. It gets through. And what was going on in 2022 that might cause parasites to get through Panama? We don't know for sure how it happened, but I will note that was a period where literally millions of human beings and sometimes animals, I bet some of them had pets. They were streaming through the Darien Gap, that jungle that's supposed to be almost impenetrable. We were letting millions people through and what were they doing? They were coming all the way up to the US and right around that time, this pest, the screw worm got through, started getting on animals, started spreading up Guatemala, Mexico. It's been detected in Texas. The Trump administration was aware of this threat when they took office. They are ramping up spending to reignite the eradication effort. But we're going to spend hundreds of millions, probably billions of dollars trying to re eradicate this thing that we'd gotten rid of with inferior technology. Inferior know how decades ago that is the decline that you see from mass immigration and everything else.
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Yeah, the Darien Gap. So this is one of the suspected reasons that the screwworm has now started to harass Texas ranchers and cattle farmers. Open borders. The gift that keeps on giving. Just thought you should know. Today's culture would have you believe that a baby is only a baby if you decide it's a baby. Sometimes it's a choice. Sometimes it's a baby. And guess what? We all know that's garbage. It's not true. And when it matters most, preborn is making sure that the truth is known. One woman at a time, one baby at a time. Preborn provides free ultrasounds to abortion. Vulnerable young women and ultrasounds tell the truth. When that mom sees her baby and hears her baby's heartbeat, she's twice as likely to choose life. $140 helps give five mothers a free ultrasound and saves babies $280 can save 10 babies and just $28 a month can save a baby a month for less than a dollar a day. And I know there's some of you out there. You can do this. A $15,000 gift will provide an ultrasound machine that will save lives for years to come. Whether you want to save one baby or five or hundreds, that opportunity is just a phone call or click away. Call 833-850-2229 or click on the Preborn banner at charliekirk.com today. That's 833-850-2229. Or click on the Preborn banner at CharlieKirk.com today. Okay, Brandon Gill is joining us now. Brandon, there's two sort of, like, through lines that I want to talk with you about. You were on the SPLC hearing. You were in the room yesterday, and I thought you had this just amazing moment where you really just. I mean, I don't know how they would sit there and defend what they've done or who they are or what they believe, but you had this great exchange, and I want to play it
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37, 40% of abortions nationwide are of black babies. Blacks represent about 13% of the population. Does that sound like something a white supremacist would oppose?
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What I would say again is that SPLC supports reproductive.
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Calling somebody a white supremacist is a pretty serious charge, isn't it? I would. I mean, I would think you would be able to defend that if your organization says that. You clearly seem unable to.
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Mr. Gill, I'm not sure why you would think I'm able to do anything.
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You're the president of the splc, which labels pro lifers as racists. Well, does your organization just hurl around epithets like that without any justification?
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Mr. Gill, what we do is I'm
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giving you the opportunity you're not giving.
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Mr. Chairman.
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What's he referring to?
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And can he let the witness answer?
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This is outrageous.
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No, it's not.
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Allow him to speak.
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I know you don't like.
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What are you referring.
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I know you don't like my question. That's a great. You got him. I mean, he was stuttering away. He had no answers for you. Yeah.
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You know, it's crazy that groups like the SPLC will hurl, I mean, just really abominable epithets against conservatives, against pro lifers. In this case, saying that pro lifers are somehow have an ideology that is rooted in white supremacy because they believe I Guess that the nuclear family itself is white supremacist. And abortion helps to undermine that, which seems to be the goal of the splc. But to call a group of pro lifers white supremacists, I think is a very serious thing to say. It's something that can really harm somebody's reputation, certainly harm the reputation of that group. And if you're going to say that, you ought to be able to defend it. And I didn't really ask him anything very difficult. I just basically asked him, why do you believe pro lifers are white supremacists? And the reality is that as we just saw, 40% roughly of, of abortions in the United States are black babies, despite black people being about 13% of the population. So abortion massively, disproportionately affects the black population in the United States. And I would think that if pro lifers are white supremacists, then they wouldn't be pro lifers to begin with. And that seems pretty basic. And I think that, you know, if you're going to be the SPLC and you're going to say these things, you gotta be able to defend it a little bit.
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Well, you should. And there were so many amazing moments out of this hearing and sometimes hearings are like, whatever, okay. But this is so important because what the SBLC has been accused of doing is essentially ginning up images of hate images of. And what they've. It's, you know, to sort of evoke the classic, you know, burning crosses, white supremacists. And then to find out they're funding the burning crosses, to find out they're buying KKK merch basically so that they can expose it and then smearing like normal conservatives, mainstream conservatives, as hate groups to just get donations from credulous donors.
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If hate group and like hate speech has any meaning, it really is what the SPLC does, which is to lie about what groups of people they dislike do and believe that they're going around and saying there are all these hateful white conservative Christians in America that you should be afraid of. Here's all these things they're doing and they are faking it. They are paying for it. They have agent provocateurs engineering this so that they can then take those fake hate groups and smear people like Charlie Kirk as linked with those groups.
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And I'm gonna play this clip for you, Congressman Gill here and get your reaction. Stop. 45.
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With respect to Charlie Kirk, have you all taken any position since Charlie Kirk
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to Roy? We unequivocally condemned the Murder of Charlie Kirk.
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What about the listing of Charlie Kirk?
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It is our position that TP USA expresses views and vilifies other people based
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on immutable characteristics, exposing them to our listing.
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Lies. Absolute garbage. Lies. Congressman.
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Yeah. I mean, the thing about the SPLC is not simply that they'll slander TPUSA or Moms for Liberty or any other group. It's that the FBI and government agencies have used that to go after these groups, to go after conservative organizations. So it's far more impactful for the left than just saying mean things about Turning Point. Now, going back to that, I'd love to hear him actually explain where is Turning Point USA maligning somebody for immutable characteristics? I have a feeling that he can't really justify that at all. No, you know, it's really easy to just say that, to put that into the ether, to demonize a group like Turning Point than it is to actually substantiate it.
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Yeah, and they bring up the black pilot. Jasmine Crockett did this. Oh, the black pilots. And just for the thousandth time. And by the way, Charlie was using
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this to demand equal treatment of all Americans and all people. And that's the only way that you actually eradicate racism and discrimination.
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Well, and Wesley Hunt had a great clap back to this because he was actually a black pilot, a military pilot, and he was saying, you are so. I mean, what are you saying? That they need, like, lower standards? They need special quota systems? Because you can't. How insulting is that to somebody like Wesley Hunt? But just for the thousandth time, Charlie, when he said black pilots, was reacting to the CEO of United Airlines saying he was going to mandate a 50. 50 pilot class. 50% minority and women and 50% white. For whatever reason, pilots in this country are predominantly white men. I don't know why. It's just the way it works, okay? It's about 92% of new pilots tend to be white men. White men just like to fly. I don't know why. So if you're going to mandate 50% minority pilots in a class, can you guarantee me that the standards are going to remain high? That the safety of the passengers is going to remain paramount? Or are you gonna start forcing through pilots that aren't qualified?
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I mean, it's just disgusting. It's just disgusting top to bottom. Because they're going to bring this up until the end of time and then they're going to get behind Tofu Talarico in your state of Texas, who says, I have a virus in me? Because I have white skin. And they're going to get behind every form of institutional discrimination in America, whether dei in government, discrimination, in college admissions. They endlessly do this sort of innate discrimination based on innate traits against people because they're male, because they're
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haters. Yes, they are the racist they are, period, Congressman.
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Just despicable.
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It is. And the funny thing is that the pilot example is such a perfect distillation of what DEI means. And you know, anybody with a brain can listen to what Charlie was saying and no, clear, exactly the point that he was making. I mean, it's not a complicated thing. But if you ask anybody in the country, regardless of what race they are, white, black, Hispanic, Asian, whatever, and you ask them, do you want your pilot to be the most qualified pilot whenever you hop on your next American Airlines or United flight, or do you want them to be chosen in any sense because of their race? And everybody will tell you, I want the most qualified pilot. I don't care about any of this stuff. I just want the guy who's going to make sure the plane doesn't crash. And for the SPLC to contort that into evidence that Turning Point is a hate group, I think, you know, that's the kind of thing that normal people should be able to look at and say SPLC has zero credibility. This is an organization that nobody, much less the United States government should listen to in any sense. But this is the kind of stuff that they've used to weaponize conservatives.
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And that's the key thing to emphasize here. This is not just a left wing group that campaigns that has a hate map. This was a group that within very recent memory, it was treated like this neutral arbiter of fact that the New York Times, any these news publications would say, oh, this group is labeled as a hate group by the splc, which means they probably are. The FBI brings them in to train agents. Our government agencies uses their databases like their official record. And one of the most important triumphs of the MAGA era, the Trump era, is we are cutting that down. We are not going to allow this to pass anymore.
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Yeah, we're building up antibodies to it. I just want to remind the audience, three months and 19 days after the SPLC put Charlie and Turning Point and our students on their hate map, he was gunned down by an assassin who said some hate just can't be negotiated out. So did the SBLC kill Charlie? No, I'm not saying that. Did they directly impact what happened to Charlie? Absolutely. They injected this venom where hate could be used as a pejorative to smear any conservative as unhuman as below, beneath contempt. And so, yes, they are culpable in an indirect way. Absolutely. And I'm very comfortable saying that. All right, so there's a number of different news stories that are percolating right now. So there's this ActBlue hearing, which I feel like we need to talk about because Charlie was really like a dog with a bone when it came to ActBlue. He smelled fraud a mile away when it came to ActBlue. And their CEO, their sort of new CEO is on the Hill testifying before Congress and it's not going so well. Takes the Fifth on every single question that she was asked.
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That doesn't automatically mean you're guilty. I want to note that because Charlie, of course, also.
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No, but listen, the nature of the questions were. Listen to this. These are the questions that she was asked. All right. How much fraud is too much fraud? I plead the Fifth. How many foreign contributions did Act Blue accept? I plead the Fifth. How much money did Act Blue accept from Russia? Yeah, there's like, you know, upwards of 40,000 alleged donations from Russia that have been tracked. Tracked to Russia. Why did your entire legal team quit your in house legal team? I plead the Fifth. Did your legal team quit because of reduced fraud standards? I plead the Fifth. Did you weaken your fraud standards to help Democrats? Yeah. Did not go well. The CEO published an article saying why I use my Fifth Amendment rights before Congress today. Silence in response to bad faith action is not retreat. It is a bedrock American right. Okay, yeah, way to spin that. I guess so. Good for you, lady. So it's obvious that ActBlue will be treated the same way. This is a proceeding designed to build an illegitimate criminal case against us. I cannot and will not let my words be misused in that way. Or your organization is shady and you need to cover your tracks and you don't want to just answer legitimate questions. So there's that too.
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That's one option I want to remind people, because this is a story from a few months ago. A lot of this, this kicked off because obviously we warned about them for a long time. Charlie warned about them for a long time. But the New York Times, a left leaning newspaper, for sure, they actually are the ones who did a very detailed report on them a couple months ago. If you want to go read it. It's ActBlue may have misled Congress on vetting foreign donations. And it's because when they're the CEO who's pleading the fifth, Regina Wallace Jones, she had said that they carried out detailed, multi layered screenings to root out foreign, corrupt, illegal donations. And their law firm said this presents a substantial risk for ActBlue. And they said that a criminal investigation might find that they had tried to conceal facts about its efforts to prevent foreign contributions. And it says the memos instigated a meltdown at the highest levels of Act Blue, one of the Democratic Party's most vital financial organs. A series of top officials resigned in quick succession. So that's what's going on. And I would note we saw something very similar like this with the SPLC 6 whole years ago where there was misconduct involving Morris Dees. Suddenly all the rats jumped off the ship. They brought in a former staffer for Michelle Obama to do a very detailed investigation that was never heard from again. And suddenly now we see all of this misconduct at the SPLC. I think we're gonna find something very similar at ActBlue.
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Well, so just so you know, like the little number on the back of your credit card where you have to put your CVV code or whatever. They don't require that. Or at least they didn't. I wonder why.
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Why would you need that?
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That's a security measure that is in place to root out fraudulent donations. They, they. I mean, there's many allegations against Act Blue, but it was completely, in my opinion, money laundering organization for the Democrat Party. Now they're in pure retreat. And it's beautiful. So she goes on. These attacks are part of a much bigger trend of retaliation and retribution. See what she's doing here? See what she's doing here? I'm the victim. Okay. We were defrauding the political system actually, in the United States, but we're the victim. It was universities, it was law firms, then civil rights organizations like the SPLC had it coming. Now it is a platform that helps people participate in democracy. If those behind this scheme succeed, they will go further against other causes, other service providers, other candidates and ordinary American citizens whose only offense is disagreeing with this administration. That is all from the words of Regina Wallace Jones, who's the president and chief executive of ActBlue and a total fraudster. Okay, that's how I feel. All right, let's. I gotta play. What? We got one more story here we're gonna get to. And as we know, Blake, there is the FIFA World cup is gonna be coming to the United States.
B
Don't remind me.
A
Canada and Mexico, okay? But the United States getting most of them. A Somali man posing as a referee was denied Entry into America. Let's play this story 56, Rebecca.
C
A Somali referee is not gonna be
D
able to officiate the World cup after
C
being denied entry into the United States over what officials have said, our vetting concerns.
A
I think he was denied a visa,
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but I think he was gained an opportunity to sort of highlight what America has become, which is a shame.
A
Yeah. Okay, so this guy has, like, apparently known ties to terrorist organizations in Somalia, and so they denied him. And then he goes back. By the way, I don't think we have this clip, but he goes back to Somalia when he's denied and he gets like a hero's welcome. Like, you know, good for you. We know you're a terrorist. You're one of us. I guess.
B
So did he return bearing suitcases filled with Medicaid money?
A
Yeah, exactly. He was smuggling some of the money to Al Shabaab. By the way. I just love this, by the way. Hold the line. The administration. You're doing a great job. This guy has no business being in the country. I don't care if he's here for the FIFA World Cup. We have standards and it's called. We have the rule of law. So see you later. You know, enjoy Somalia. Enjoy whatever other dumb country is going to let you in. If you have ties to terrorists. I'm sorry, no good. No visa for you. And by the way, that should go for all Somalians right now. We have a big Somalia population in this country and it ain't going so well. A bunch of pirates. So I love that story. Good for the admin. And there's a lot of good stuff happening, by the way, on the immigration front. And we're going to highlight it some and coming episodes.
B
That said, I'm not watching the World Cup.
A
I'll probably watch a little bit.
B
Charlie got really excited.
A
Cheer for America.
B
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Episode: The Karmelo Anthony Aftermath
Date: June 10, 2026
Host: Charlie Kirk (posthumously; co-hosts: Andrew & Blake)
Key Guests: Vince Everett Ellison, Pamela Evatt, Congressman Brandon Gill
This episode of The Charlie Kirk Show focused on two explosive news stories: passionate, racially-charged public reactions to the Carmelo Anthony murder verdict in Texas, and riots in Belfast, Northern Ireland following a violent attack by a migrant. The hosts and guests dissected the social and political factors fueling division and violence, criticized progressive narratives around race and justice, and praised activism, faith, and grassroots political engagement as antidotes to current cultural pathologies. Notably, the show also discussed the SPLC’s role in labeling conservative organizations, the collapse of left-wing campaign finance juggernaut ActBlue, and featured interviews with Vince Everett Ellison and South Carolina gubernatorial candidate Pamela Evatt.
"Defending the indefensible and continuing to do so. And in fact getting worse since this verdict came down." — Blake (03:00)
Generational Regression: Ellison bemoans that racial strife is worse for younger generations than in his own time, blaming leftist narratives and a loss of Christian unity.
"We're amazed that our grandchildren have more racial strife than we had 50 years ago. ... They have to make the people believe that in America they're hated." — Vince Ellison (21:41–23:25)
Pride vs. Humility: He links the normalization of “pride” (in both racial and sexual contexts) to social instability and personal grievance.
"If I bump into you, I'm going to say, hey, man, I'm sorry. ... De escalate, be humble. But they don't want to do it." — Vince Ellison (28:44–30:06)
Attack on Victim’s Family:
On Progressive Racial Politics:
"It's like there's a part of the black community has turned into what we've hated. This racist, ignorant, violent group ... Everything through the prism of race and extreme violence." — Vince Ellison (24:32)
Call to Activism & Faith:
"Britain ... fought off Hitler, Napoleon ... every attempt to conquer them ... now they say, invade me harder, Daddy." — Andrew (18:32)
Gill confronts SPLC president on the labeling of pro-lifers and conservatives as “white supremacists,” with no substantive defense.
"Does your organization just hurl around epithets like that without any justification?" — Rep. Gill (58:24)
Hosts detail how SPLC’s “hate group” designations are used by government agencies and the media, arguing it endangers conservatives and contributed to Charlie Kirk’s assassination.
Critique of “diversity mandates” (e.g., pilots):
“Everybody will tell you, I want the most qualified pilot. ... For the SPLC to contort that into evidence that Turning Point is a hate group ... that’s zero credibility.” — Gill (65:07)
On race relations regression:
“We're amazed that our grandchildren have more racial strife than we had 50 years ago. ... They have to make the people believe that in America they're hated. To keep them in fear, keep them in envy, keep them in strife.” – Vince Ellison (21:41)
On the progressive reaction to the Anthony verdict:
“Defending the indefensible and continuing to do so. And in fact getting worse since this verdict came down.” – Blake (03:00)
On SPLC & Conservative Organizations:
“If you’re going to say that (pro-lifers are white supremacists), you ought to be able to defend it. … I didn’t really ask him anything very difficult.” – Brandon Gill (58:55)
On grassroots impact:
“...Just to sit down with the people...gave me an even deeper respect for our farmers because their life is not easy and they’re so resilient, they never complain.” – Pamela Evatt (45:07)
Blunt, unapologetically conservative, combative toward progressive or mainstream media narratives, sorrowful and reflective regarding Charlie Kirk’s legacy, and occasionally irreverent or sardonic when discussing left-wing political figures or organizations.
This episode weaved together themes of justice, racial tension, media distortion, and grassroots activism, maintaining a consistently adversarial stance against mainstream progressivism. Through interviews and extended commentary, the show urged listeners toward civic engagement, faith, and “clinging to truth” amid cultural upheaval. The Carmelo Anthony case, Belfast unrest, and insider discussions about political organizations like the SPLC and ActBlue served as central springboards for broader critique of progressive influence on American and Western institutions.