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Hey, everybody. Today on the Charlie Kirk Show, Darren Beatty joins us with a very important analysis connecting the attempted and possible color revolution with what we're seeing in our country. Please consider supporting us@charliekirk.com support. Email us your questions freedomarliekirk.com and if you want to get involved with Turning Point usa, where we play offense with a sense of urgency to win America's culture war, go to tpusa.com, tpus USA.com Darren Beatty is here. Buckle up, everybody. Here we go. Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
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Thanks for having me.
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So you were calling early for a potential color revolution against President Trump. You said that. Not calling for it, but you were Trying to expose it. You were saying that this might be happening. Did we see it in a different way in this voter fraud, cutting of corners, the big theft?
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Well, we saw it in a somewhat modified fashion. And so, as I mentioned in the last time we talked about, Color revolution has two chief characteristics. The first characteristic is an engineered contested election scenario. And the second is massive mobilized protests and demonstrations. The bottom line here is we were guaranteed to have a contested election scenario with mail in ballots. Mail in ballots were sure to open up the door for all kinds of weird irregularities, fraud, everything like that. Where the color revolution would really come into play is if Trump is actually successful in overturning this steal, then they will say that Trump is a usurper, he's illegitimate, and then they'll vamp up the framework that they use in Eastern European countries by saying he's an authoritarian, we need to take to the streets and so forth. So the stage that we're at now is simply a fraudulent election. What looks to be the case with severe irregularities in a number of states, which you've been pointing out very forcefully and very effectively. So I want to congratulate you on your efforts there. But it looks like just your typical steel that was engineered in the. According to the machine politics of various municipalities of the United States. But if we're successful, if we win, if our efforts to expose this deal proves successful and Trump is inaugurated, that's when you're going to see the color revolution take effect.
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So you tweeted on November 4, Time for the president to see this when you were talking about the regime change. I'm making the comparison that the what they were willing to do to execute a color revolution is very similar to what they probably pulled off in some of these cities, unless we expose them and we're able to overturn some of these results. You are actually a mathematician, if I'm not mistaken. Right. You have a background in mathematics. Can you build out the mathematical impossibility of what the media is telling us here? Because I feel that we have not talked enough about the statistical modeling, how impossible it is that Joe Biden allegedly achieved what they say he did.
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Right. Well, on that issue, I mean, that would require someone very familiar with the actual numbers. And while I've paid attention to the various states, I don't feel qualified to address the numbers specifically. But I think your audience are curious about this. I think the populist pundit Richard Barris has done a very good job, you know, very conversant with the numbers, of laying out a case for fraud, really, there's no other way to put it. In these various states, there's so suspicious and I think in a way, like it's important to drill down on the actual numbers. And, you know, every day I'm getting a new case for, oh, some statistician here, some statistician there. I think at this point, the case for fraud is fairly dispositive. And now it's just a question of whether the people in position to do so will do the right thing. That's really the issue, whether the state governments, the respective state legislatures, will do the right thing and refuse to certify unless it's clear that the election was actually legitimate.
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And it's looking increasingly like it was illegitimate. And so looking at this, and you run Revolver News, I want to encourage everyone to check that out for one of your primary news sources, Revolver News, looking at this through your lens, through a strategic, you know, strategically thinking at what are the next steps that are needed for President Trump and his team? What do you think needs to be done? A lot of people watch this program, a lot of people that have a lot of influence. What steps do you think need to be taken in what sequence in order to achieve a second term for President Trump at this point?
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Well, I think they need to be go, you know, have a strategy in each individual state. I think message discipline and, and I think at this stage, it really is important to understand that the mechanism by which the President formally becomes president first requires certification at the state level, then they have to seat electors, then the electors vote in December and then that is ratified by the House of Representatives. So you have to tell yourself a narrative. How does Trump get to 270? How does he get to Inauguration Day? And really focus on every single step necessary toward that end. And Revolver News and I and many others have been saying a crucial aspect of this is understanding that it's actually the state legislatures that seat electors. And I think that's profound leverage that actually the states are not using to great effect, which is actually disappointing because many of these states are Republican controlled.
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It's not surprising, though weak Republicans seem to be, you know, something that is far too common. It does seem, it does seem, though, that Republicans are, are the only shot that we have to actually get a second term of President Trump, especially considering the stakes of all of this. It does. The Democrats are not acting like winners. The left, they're not acting in a form or fashion as if they won this election. Joe Biden just relaunched his donation portal. You and I have Been around many elections where it's pretty well known that you lost. It's over. This has felt so artificial, so forced, so quick that they're not, they're creating lists of enemies almost instantaneously. Can you help unpack what we can learn from how the left has responded from this and also some action steps of how we can pressure state legislatures?
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Well, look, what you see is a highly coordinated effort here. And months ago they preceded this narrative that there would be something like a red mirage, but the mail in Dallas would, you know, overcome the difference. They've seeded these narratives and they've actually, they prepared for a case in which Trump actually was the winner. Then they have a contested scenario and that would be the color revolution. So that's the case in which we actually get Trump to the inauguration. But I think we really need to be sober and honest about the fact when we say, when we question the legitimacy of Joe Biden as President elect. To question the legitimacy of Joe Biden's election is to question the legitimacy of America's democratic system. As such, you can't separate the two. And if we continue to have elections along these lines, and again, a lot of the work needs to be done by Republicans because they're frankly screw ups at the state level in many of these states that allowed this to happen. We knew there would be something like this down the pipeline. Simply by nature, the mail in ballots, Bill, you know, AG Barr, of whom I've been critical, he correctly stated this is unprecedented. It's bound to result in controversy. And so if we continue to have elections like this, where there's like a nominal election on election day and then you just indefinitely count mail in ballots with no authentication, no signature, due diligence, nothing. We're not, we're in a sham democracy. And so I think there's a partisan dimension of this because Joe Biden and the Democrats did, you know, it looks like steal this election. But I think there's a trans partisan aspect as well, is that if we continue to have elections along the lines of what we just saw, it's not just Biden's legitimacy, it's legitimacy of the American system. Yes, that's fake. Here,
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Right? Well look, I mean the stakes don't get any higher than the very status of the United States as a nominally free country in which we hold democratic elections. I mean, the left has paid lip Service the importance of this status by the Washington Post's own moniker, where democracy dies in Darkness. All of the enemies of democracy have consistently invoked democracy as a pretext to destroy our democracy. That's an important thing to understand. And, and I think the notion that America is a democracy, a free country, and frankly, one can drill down and ask whether that's really the case. But even if it's an illusion, the illusion is more important to the functioning of the United States than it is to other countries. The idea of ourselves as somehow a real democracy, once that disintegrates, whether it's a reality or an illusion, you have a lot of problems down the pipeline because it was so instrumental to our own self concept of who we are as Americans and what America is as a country relative to others on the world stage. So I think what we can see is with Donald Trump's presidency, you saw the delegitimization of the media, we've seen the delegitimization of, of these institutions that many conservatives are typically favorably disposed to, the national security state, the FBI, all these other organizations that I think a lot of good conservatives say these are great organizations, they should be, and they feel so betrayed because of the corruption that's been exposed. This is another delegitimization in a long line of cases in which the illusions that underpin our countries have been exposed and our country has been exposed. And I think that's a very dangerous thing.
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That is such a good point. What hasn't been delegitimized in the last decade? Corporate America has been delegitimized. Professional sports.
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Our government, our legal institutions. And what you're saying, Darren, I completely agree with this, is that the country can only endure so much delegitimization until there's a spiral of events that has an unlimited amount of, just an unlimited amount of casualty or byproduct that really no one wants to live through that. The question is then what is the remedy? Right. And so the remedy would be a second term of President Trump. But what else do you see on an even bigger picture than that, how do you fix this almost erosion of the civilization?
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Right. Well, I think, you know, the delegitimization is a double edged sword. It's profoundly enervating from a kind of national strength standpoint. But in some ways the clarification is a positive thing from the point of view of patriots who at least know that they're getting screwed. They at least know what the scam is. And having a clear picture of what's actually going on, who your friends are and who your enemies are at least positions you to strategize going forward. I think one thing we really need to focus on, and you've been good on this, is if we don't have a free and open Internet, if we don't have some type of distribution channel for information, we just have. We have no shot. And there are certain things that could happen irrespective of whether Trump is inaugurated. I've been pushing really hard for the confirmation of Nathan Symington to the fcc and he's been a strong advocate of open Internet, free Internet. But those are the sorts of things we're going to have to focus on and really get down, do strategy as such and say, how do we preserve open distribution channels for information? Because as we've seen, censorship has been part of this coup. It's inconceivable that you look at the President's timeline on Twitter and like 5 out of 7 tweets of his are censored by Twitter. And the idea that you have a President of the United States who he can't silence Twitter, he can't censor Twitter, can censor him. That is a very dangerous position to be in for this country where the media has that kind of power and the media really arrogates to itself the power to decide the president, because Joe Biden is the President elect, ostensibly because the media said so. And so this is a very dangerous development. People complain about a state controlled media like in dictatorships, but actually what we have is arguably worse and more sinister. We don't have a state controlled media, we have a media controlled state.
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That's exactly right.
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And unless we really have a robust and fearless and effective strategy to address that problem, we're going to be in for a very, very dystopian 21st century.
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Exactly.
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Now, if the Federal Bureau of Investigation walked into your room or my room right now and arrested us because they didn't like what we were saying, we would have to comply in the moment, but then we could countersue, probably win a lot of money, and they'd have to give us a reason as to why we're being arrested. We have a Bill of rights with our government. At times it could be clumsy, it could be messy, but it's still there. It's enforceable, right? And say what you want, we still have a pretty good justice system in that sense. There is no rights with Silicon Valley. None, nothing. We have no Bill of Rights. We have no rights to due process. We have no representation. Instead, if you dare even question it, then you have your whole life ruined. So, Darren, I want you to comment on. It's bad enough that the Menlo park people existed, but now the Menlo park robber barons are now going to be given unfettered access to our government. If Joe Biden puts his hand up and actually gets sworn in as President, we are now going to be talking about something that's actually even more dangerous than what we saw in the early 1900s. Because what we saw in the early 1900s was J.P. morgan, you know, John D. Rockefeller, Andrew Carnegie, and they had far too much corporate power. And I think Teddy Roosevelt actually deserves a lot of credit. Some conservatives think I'm nuts by saying this, but I think they're wrong. Cuz he made sure that the transition from the farms to the factories was not one that resulted in the Russian revolution which was bad for everyone. He actually preserved some form or fashion of American capitalism. But the problem is that now you're gonna see the multi trillion dollar corporations and the multi trillion dollar government become one. Talk about how dangerous that is.
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Well, I think it's extremely dangerous. And I think you make an absolutely important point here. It's a very important insight to understand that really this distinction between the private and public sector doesn't really exist at the highest levels when you look at how a major corporation like Google is so intertwined with the government. And I think it's also important at a level of something like Google and the federal government, these are so monolithic that actually you need to think about networks within. And so Google is very much connected to networks within our government, within our national security apparatus. Any company at Google's level is going to do contracts with the federal government and so forth. And so I think like when you get to the top of the power structure in the country, this distinction between public and private doesn't really exist in practice. It's all just kind of one kind of ruling structure that exists and people flow from government back to, you know, Google and back and forth. In fact, one of the kind of under reported stories of how we got to this position where the Internet of 2015 doesn't exist now is a lot of the people, the veterans from Obama's State Department rolled over into the trust and safety boards of the respective tech companies. And now we're in a situation where you may have seen this. Your viewers should absolutely be aware of this. A man called Rick Stengel, who identified himself as Obama's chief propagandist in the State Department and who has called for a reimagining of the First Amendment so as to make hate speech illegal. And of course they would consider this conversation to be hate speech, I guarantee. And so Rick Stengel, Obama's chief propagandist who wants to reimagine the First Amendment, he's now on Biden's transition team. And I think the dynamic that people should be aware of is yes, these big tech companies are bad, but a lot of the pressure for censorship in many cases Google is an exceptional case because it's simply an evil company. But in a lot of these tech firms you have fairly indifferent people at the CEO level. A lot of pressure from woke people at the mid to high level tremendous amount of pressure from NGOs and what you're going to be seeing now, if Biden is inaugurated, you're going to see the government pressuring these tech companies to fully consolidate their censorship regime. And your viewers might know that a lot of conservatives have invoked this section 230 of the Communications Decency Act. I think one thing to point out is section 230 is a leverage tool. And leverage tools are by their nature neutral and can be used by either side. And I anticipate if Biden becomes president, his administration will use Section 230 as a leverage tool not to prevent censorship, but rather to bully the exactly correct censoring more so that we're in for a very, very dangerous ride here.
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But the negotiating position should be we're going to break you up and we're going to start from that as our opening shot.
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Well, again, that's also a leverage point. So the tech companies were actually, they're most scared of all the politicians. The politician that the tech companies were most scared of was Elizabeth Warren, because Elizabeth Warren was calling for using antitrust. I'm not opposed to using antitrust, but again, that's just a leverage tool. And, and the tech companies considered the threat to be most credible coming from Elizabeth Warren breaking up the tech companies for left wing reasons. And you got to remember, as much as we hate Facebook, the left hates Facebook because they blame Facebook for the election of Donald Trump still. So it's a complicated situation and we are going to have to reevaluate our strategy, I think, to some degree, if horrifically, Biden ends up being inaugurated as president, because it will be the government in this case, putting additional pressure on these tech companies to snuff out what's left of a dissenting voice on the Internet.
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And it's probably one of the most important issues of our time. You don't have natural rights in the former fashion that you and I grew up in, when all of a sudden you can't access 90% of the population, all of a sudden your natural rights are being violated by definition. So Revolver News, anything that we didn't touch on that you want to communicate
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to our audience, well, we'll have to save that for the next talk. I hope you'll have me on next time. I'd love to talk about the role of the national security state in all of this. But until then, I encourage your listeners go to Revolver News. The president endorse it as the alternative to Drudge Report. We're covering the election fraud. We're covering the color revolution. We're covering big tech, so be sure to go to Revolver News.
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Well, Darren, keep up the good work, stay focused, and we'll have you on very soon. Thanks so much.
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You too. Thank you.
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