The Preliminary Hearing Plan + DSA’s Democrat Takeover

Summary

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The Charlie Kirk Show – Episode Summary

Title: The Preliminary Hearing Plan + DSA’s Democrat Takeover
Date: July 2, 2026
Host: Charlie Kirk (A), with co-hosts Blake (B) and guests Mark Halperin, Congressman Andy Ogles, Kim Bright

Episode Overview

This episode of The Charlie Kirk Show centers on two main themes: the upcoming preliminary hearing in the high-profile Tyler Robinson case and a deep-dive into the internal struggles and shifting ideologies within the Democratic Party, particularly the rise of Democratic Socialists of America (DSA). Along with these focal points, the show also explores current immigration controversies, recent political developments, and public health concerns. Staying true to his unapologetic conservative style, Charlie and guests highlight the urgent need for clarity, activism, and legislative reform in a rapidly changing America.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Preliminary Hearing in the Tyler Robinson Case

• Announcement & Purpose

  • The preliminary hearing is scheduled for July 6–10, 2026, in Provo, Utah.
  • “I am not going to be there. Blake and I will be running a special episode… streaming the entire preliminary hearing. And then after it concludes, at the end of the day, we are going to be bringing in experts…” (B, 02:24)
  • Emphasis is placed on transparency, accurate reporting, and supporting the Turning Point USA family, especially those personally affected, such as Erica and Charlie’s parents.

• Nature of the Hearing

  • “This is only a preliminary hearing where they essentially show probable cause for charging Tyler Robinson.” (C, 03:39)
  • Differentiated from a trial; no jury, rules allow hearsay, and hearing determines whether the case goes to trial.

• Community Support & Information Access

  • The show promises daily coverage, live streams, and expert analysis after each court day.
  • “We want to be a place where you guys can come to trust what’s going to happen... we're bringing in really, really smart people that know how this process works.” (B, 02:57)

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2. Rising Influence of the DSA in the Democratic Party

A. Sanctuary States, Pardons, and Immigration

• Case of Tuvang Tao Vong

  • Minnesota’s Board of Pardons granted clemency to “an illegal immigrant convicted of repeatedly sexually assaulting a 10-year-old child,” effectively preventing his deportation.
    • “This guy raped a little girl… and they’re pardoning him so he doesn’t get deported. Do I have my facts straight?” (B, 12:03)
  • Hosts criticize what they see as selective leniency for non-citizens and argue this exemplifies “two-tier justice.”
    • “The left has made it clear they want criminals to come to America, they want criminals who are caught to stay in America...” (C, 14:13)

• Broader Patterns

  • Discussion expands to policies in California and Illinois, describing them as part of a trend where “left actively loves the idea of keeping someone who raped a 10 year old” because of their broader social agenda (C, 13:26).

B. Democrat Infighting & “DSA Takeover”

• Internal Panic and Populist Surge

  • “There’s an internal panic going on within the Democrat establishment with the rise of DSA and I think we need to do a deep dive on what that actually means.” (B, 11:05)
  • Donny Deutsch clip played to illustrate concerns about Democrats drifting toward anti-Semitism and socialism (24:44).

• Analysis with Mark Halperin

  • The program hosts a roundtable about the electoral viability of the DSA and the Democratic Party’s left turn:
    • “Populist and anti-establishment– that’s good. But they have a lot of really left-wing views… probably are not winning general elections. And then… they say a lot of crazy stuff.” (A, 25:25)
    • The danger for Democrats is that radicalism on issues like policing and Israel may alienate mainstream voters.

• Changing American Demographics and Discontent

  • Charlie and Blake argue that mass immigration, offshoring, and cultural change have made America uniquely vulnerable to appeals from the far left.
    • “The country that you were covering when you started as a journalist and reporter is not the same country that we have now. We’ve imported millions of people…” (B, 27:01)

• Is Radicalism Really Unpopular?

  • Discussion of whether today’s fringe positions could become majority opinion as the political “Overton window” shifts.
    • “Could this sort of wave basically create its own reality where we’re saying this stuff is really unpopular and instead of making it, making them lose, they just have the power to make these things popular.” (C, 31:14)

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3. Immigration Policy, Birthright Citizenship, and National Security

• Interview with Congressman Andy Ogles (60:35)
  • Strong critique of current birthright citizenship laws following a recent Supreme Court decision.
    • “If you’re pregnant and you’re not a citizen, you’re not a green card holder, you need not come to the United States of America because we’re not going to let you have your baby on our soil.” (E, 62:00)
  • Ogles advocates for “Anchors Away Bill” to restrict automatic citizenship based on birth in U.S. territory and highlights risks posed by Chinese birth tourism.
    • “You literally have a million Chinese kids who have been born in the United States or Guam, but they’re being raised in China by the Chinese Republic.” (E, 63:02)
  • Broader overhaul proposed: “My Assimilation act... Re Migration act... Anchors Away bill…” (E, 64:36)
  • “We get to choose who comes in. We also get to choose who leaves.” (E, 60:35)
  • Panel discusses historical context (Hart-Celler Act, 1965), chain migration, and the diversity lottery.

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4. Culture, Pop Culture, and “Malaise” in America

• Soccer as a Metaphor & National Identity
  • Lighthearted interlude: Discussion of U.S. soccer success, AC settings, and how “small socialist malaise” policies affect daily life.
    • “[Is] there any more socialist, like, image possible? Then you got rent freezes, and then you got, you know, freeze your thermostat at 78.” (B, 23:04)
  • Humorous banter about Taylor Swift, pop culture, and American preferences for sports.

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5. Public Health: Vaccines, Cancer, and the “Sick Care” System

• Interview with Kim Bright (42:36–59:03)
  • Exploratory discussion about rising global cancer rates and speculation about potential links to COVID-19 vaccines, with strong criticism of pharmaceutical companies’ motives.
    • “[Vaccine injuries] do not materialize right away. And can you believe… Big Pharma’s solution to this cancer epidemic is yet another MRNA vaccine?” (D, 44:46)
    • “They get you sick, they provide the sickness remedy… that makes you sicker, and then they provide another remedy to deal with the sickness that they caused.” (B, 47:06)
  • Emphasis on natural health, gut health (kimchi, probiotics), and skepticism toward “sick care” approaches.
    • “I think gut health is the key to health. I’m completely convinced of this.” (B, 56:56)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Why the Hearing Matters:

  • “We want to be a place where you guys can come to trust what’s going to happen... we’re going to bring in really, really smart people that know how this process works.” (B, 02:57)

• On Two-Tier Justice:

  • “It’s called two-tier justice… At every step of the way, the left has made it clear they want criminals to come to America, they want criminals who are caught to stay in America…” (C, 14:13)
  • “This is a political patronage of a different sort. Right. It’s not necessarily handing out Goodies. But this is a pretty good Goodyear, actually, where he gets complete clemency for raping a 10 year. Can we say it enough times?” (B, 14:51)

• On Democratic Infighting & Populism:

  • “Populist and anti establishment– that’s good… but they say anti Semitic things, anti white things. They say crazy stuff... This is a massive problem…” (A, 25:25)
  • “If Jon Ossoff were a socialist, I think it’d be no contest. The problem is, how do you handicap a contest of inept second grade soccer players?” (A, 32:00)

• On Immigration Reform:

  • “If you’re pregnant and you’re not a citizen, you’re not a green card holder, you need not come to the United States of America because we’re not going to let you have your baby on our soil.” (E, 62:00)

• On Cultural Decline and Policy:

  • “It’s like you’re looking at this rise of the DSA commies. The Bolsheviks are coming… This underscores and reveals a rot in our country…” (B, 76:27)

• On Public Health Skepticism:

  • “In my opinion, these pharmaceutical CEOs, they don’t actually care about people’s lives. They care about the bottom line... It’s kind of like trying to cure cancer with more cancer, which is insane.” (D, 45:40)

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Major Timestamps

• [01:31] – Show opens, preliminary hearing preview
• [03:39] – Explanation of preliminary hearing vs. trial
• [12:03] – Minnesota pardon case: Sanctuary States, justice debate
• [24:44] – Donny Deutsch/MSNBC clip: Democratic infighting over socialism, anti-Semitism
• [28:22] – Mark Halperin segment: DSA influence, Democrats’ future
• [42:36] – Kim Bright segment: Rise in cancer rates, vaccine skepticism
• [60:35] – Congressman Andy Ogles: Birthright citizenship, legislative fixes
• [70:16] – Immigration history, Hart-Celler Act discussion
• [76:27] – Final thoughts on DSA, assimilation, and legislative priorities
• [78:14] – Wrap-up, preview of next week’s coverage

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In the Spirit of Charlie Kirk

• Calls to action for grassroots activism: Starting campus chapters, faith involvement, and engagement in legislative battles.
• Frequent reminders of American exceptionalism, family values, and the need for cultural resilience.
• “Be grateful. Have gratitude. Say thank you to the Lord who has had his providential hand on this country for 250 [years].” (B, 78:02)

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Transcript

[A]

My name is Charlie Kirk. I run the largest pro American student organization in the country, fighting for the future of our republic. My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth. If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're gonna end up miserable. But if the most important thing is doing good, you will end up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody. You gotta stop sending your kids to college. You should get married as young as possible and have as many kids as possible. Go start a Turning Point USA College chapter. Go start a Turning Point USA High School chapter. Go find out how your church can get involved. Sign up and become an activist. I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade. Most important decision I ever made in my life. And I encourage you to do the same. Here I am, Lord. Use me. Buckle up, everybody. Here we go. Noble Gold Investments is the official gold sponsor of the Charlie Kirk Show, a company that specializes in gold IRAs and physical delivery of precious metals. Learn how you could protect your wealth with Noble gold [e-mail] that is noblegoldinvestments.com

[B]

all right, welcome to the show. It is July 2nd. We are just days away from 250, so I figured I'd bring the USA shirt out and celebrate just as in my own way, Blake. So how we doing?

[C]

We're doing splendid.

[B]

Yeah. We're here at the Y Refi Studios. I'm back in studio. Honored to be with you all. Very, very excited. I wanted to take a few moments this morning because actually tomorrow is going to be a travel day. We've pre recorded an amazing interview with Dr. Larry Arne who gave us a whole hour. And we've got some other patriotic content for you tomorrow. So this will be our last live show before the weekend and all the festivities. And I want to just address what's going to happen next week because there's a huge, huge event that's happening next week that's obviously near and dear to us. And it's going to be very difficult in many ways. And that is, of course, the preliminary hearing in the case of the state burst Tyler Robinson. It's going to be taking place in Provo, Utah, July 6th through the 10th. As I said, it's going to be very difficult, extremely difficult, but an important week. And that's going to be for all of us in the extended Turning Point family and especially Erica and Charlie's parents. And you know, they're going to be in my prayers a lot next week. And I know you as well Blake. And so it's going to be difficult because they are going to be in the actual courthouse and that's going to be difficult. I mean, I am not going to be there. Blake and I will be running a special episode. Streaming. We're going to be streaming the entire preliminary hearing. And then after it concludes, at the end of the day, we are going to be bringing in experts, people that were on the ground in Provo, and we're going to be breaking that down. The big evidence that's revealed, the big news that's made, whatever is critically important to what happens that day, we feel it's incumbent upon us to be a source of truth and just honesty about how it's reporting because there's going to be a lot of, lot of news. Okay. And there's going to be a lot of people taking it and doing what they will with it. We want to be a place where you guys can come to trust what's going to happen. And we're going to bring in really, really smart people that know how this process works. I don't know if you want to chime in on that.

[C]

Well, it's just we want to be clear. We're making it sound like it is the trial. And honestly, to us, it sometimes feels like that. It is not the trial.

[B]

This is not the trial.

[C]

This is only a preliminary hearing where they essentially show probable cause for charging Tyler Robinson.

[B]

So let's go into that. This is not the trial. This is the pre trial judicial proceeding. Okay. There will be no jury and the sole purpose of the hearing is to determine whether the prosecutors have gathered enough evidence for the case to move forward to a trial. Okay. So there's different rules. We'll get in on all that next. Next week you can allow hearsay, et cetera, et cetera, but the hearing is expected, like I said, to last most of the week. It will include witness testimony, evidence presented by the prosecutors, and cross examination by the defense. As I said before, Charlie's parents and Erica will be there together throughout the proceedings. They are not attending as public figures. They're attending as grieving loved ones to witness the process of justice unfold. So I hope this is probably is more of a hope and a prayer than anything else that the media and social media pay them the respect that they deserve. So this hearing, by the way, was originally scheduled for the end of May. Yes, we were all gearing up for it, but based on some motions made by the defense, it got pushed to next week, July 6th. Incredibly busy. Part of the schedule for all of us, we've got some stuff going on in D.C. this weekend, and then we've got CLS, our chapter leadership Summit, happening also on the east coast next week. So there's a lot going on, and I feel terrible for Erica that she's got to fly back and forth all over the place, but this is what the court decided, and so we're sort of bound by the schedule that the court has decided.

[C]

It's what we have to live by, Charlie's example. And Charlie was a man who was always ready to go, go wherever was needed, and we need to be there for him and for his family. And so we want all of you to know this is a place you can turn to for everything that's happening in the case next week and in the months to come as it continues.

[B]

Yeah. And they'll be representing their full extended families on both sides, so there'll be some other friends and a few other family members, but they're going to be there representing the family on both sides. And. And you know me personally, I'm glad I get to be in here with you. So my heart goes out to everybody that has to be in that courtroom, because I don't want to breathe the same air as that person. So, anyways, that's kind of what's going on. And then after that, we've got cls. Blake and I will be also traveling back to do cls, which is our Chapter Leadership Summit, which is going to be remarkable this year. And I just want to give so much praise to the team. They've been doing so much hard work behind the scenes. We're going to have more than 2,000 student leaders from across the country gathered together for multiple days of training. There's going to be a bunch of big speakers. This is not like one of our big conventions where you guys can get tickets. This is just for students and equipping, activism, training. You know, We've got over 5,000 chapters, official, official chapters. I think we've got a presence on nearly 6000 campuses across the country, but official chapters, we have 5000 chapters, over 1500 college chapters now, and more than 3500 Club America High School chapters across the Summit or across the country. So this is going to be a huge, huge deal. So Erica will actually get there late because of the scheduling of this preliminary hearing, but when she gets there, you know, she's going to give her full heart and attention to those students, because ultimately, that's what Charlie would have wanted. And God bless her for that, because I can't imagine just the emotional whiplash that that would entail. Going from something so dark and terrible and then having to immediately juxtapose that with having to address, you know, 2,000 students. But that ultimately is the core of what Charlie's legacy and mission was about, was about the students. And so God bless her for that. So it's going to be quite the week. But please know that we are going to be streaming the preliminary hearing here. We'll take the show, we'll do the show live. If we have to throw to an important part of that hearing, we will. But obviously there's still going to be news of the day that we're going to have to cover intermixed with that. So it's going to be a bit of a dance. So bear with us as we do that. But we want to give a lot of attention to that. When the show wraps, we'll continue streaming it, so you can get that on all of our social channels. Rumble X, all of the above. I think we should probably even do YouTube next week. But anyway, so we're gonna do that and then it should wrap around 5 Utah time. So that would be 7 Eastern. And at that point we'll probably take about a 30 minute break, gather ourselves, and then we'll do a special, probably one hour episode every day. So if you were subscribed to the podcast, you can get our updates there, our show there, and then we'll be streaming it live as well. Might work with Real America's Voice to see if they can take it as well. So we just want to be very clear about the logistics. Next week it's going to be a very full week. It's going to be very challenging for us, but we feel it's incumbent on us to do this and step into this breach, step into the gap. Because if you don't, there's going to be a void of fake news and disinformation. And so we want to do that for you and provide that resource. Any final thoughts, Blake?

[C]

We encourage all of you to join us. We know this is going to be a long journey, a difficult journey. It's one we wish had started a lot earlier. This hearing was delayed, Honestly, I think even multiple times. I don't know that May was the original date either.

[B]

It was April and May, and then

[C]

it's been pushed and pushed. But we are committed to seeing this whole process through because it's our solemn obligation and we aim to fulfill it.

[B]

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[C]

I kind of wish the Democrats would have an internal panic over why do we keep pardoning child rapists so they can stay in America.

[B]

But first we have to get to this story. It was an internal wrestle going on in my mind whether or not we should get to it. I'm just gonna let Harris Faulkner do it. I usually don't do this type of thing, but it's a good summary and it'll get us there quicker, I think.

[A]

SOT 22 Sanctuary State Minnesota is back in the spotlight today. The Trump administration is accusing the governor, Tim Walsh. Remember he wanted to be the vice president with Kamala Harris. That didn't work out. They're accusing him of helping protect an illegal immigrant convicted of repeatedly sexually assaulting a 10 year old child, the little sister of his wife. Homeland Security says that man lost his legal status to be here after his conviction and faced a final order of deportation. He's a bad guy now. The Minnesota Board of Pardons has granted him clemency. Ah.

[B]

So Board of Pardons, Board of Pardons. We actually even have this, this letter from the Minnesota Clemency Review Commission, which is crazy. Re Pardon granted. Dear Tuvang Tao Vong, the Minnesota Board of Pardons voted to grant your pardon at its meeting on June 10, 2026. Congratulations, exclamation mark. We will send an official pardon certificate to you in the coming weeks. This guy raped a little girl, sexually assaulted her repeatedly, and they're pardoning him so he doesn't get deported. Do I have my facts straight?

[C]

I think you do. I think this speaks for itself. I just cut through the, cut through the crap here. This almost certainly was specifically done or it almost certainly was deliberately done because this man faces deportation. And they will say we should focus on the worst of the worst or we need immigration because it enriches America. The left does not believe this. The left actively loves the idea of keeping someone who raped a 10 year old. That is his crime. He, he raped a 10 year old child. Literally. Not groped, literally raped a 10 year old and they are giving him a pardon. The New York Times headline literally notes that he's expressed remorse.

[B]

Why doesn't he go express remorse where he's from?

[C]

Yeah, maybe you could say, oh, I should express remorse by giving up this amazing thing that I was given, which is the chance to live in America.

[B]

Yeah, this is amazing. So basically what you're seeing happen is you'll see Democrat leaders in these sanctuary states and jurisdictions basically see notice of deportation. Whatever the hell he did wrong, I don't care, we're gonna pardon him so that he is no longer on the, you know, deportation list.

[C]

We have a term for this. It comes from other countries. It's called two tier justice. Because if there's something, if they're going to go out of their way to give pardons and lower punishments, which they already do as well, to immigrants to make sure they're not deported, but they'll give a full punishment to you. You have a two tier system of justice and they've done this in other ways. In California, they changed some of their laws to change the penalty from one year in jail to one year in jail minus a day. Because a lot of the time a year in jail is enough to trigger automatically getting deported. They've, at every step of the way, the left has made it clear they want criminals to come to America, they want criminals who are caught to stay in America and they will change laws, give out pardons and remove every barrier they can to make sure criminals, including rapists who rape 10 year olds, stay in the country.

[B]

This is a political patronage of a different sort. Right. It's not necessarily handing out Goodies. But this is a pretty good Goodyear, actually, where he gets complete clemency for raping a 10 year. Can we say it enough times? And then you think of Sheridan Gorman's mom who literally went before Congress tears in her eyes. Her daughter was obviously killed by a 26 year old illegal Venezuelan that shouldn't have been in the country. That had priors, by the way. That was in Chicago. But she's tears in her eyes going, choose us, choose us. And what do they choose? They choose some foreigner named Tao Vong who raped a 10 year old. That's who they choose.

[C]

The only thing they regret is that Tao Vong didn't kill an American citizen. That's the only thing they regret.

[B]

I don't know if they.

[C]

That's the only thing they regret because they don't mind that he raped a child. They want to make sure that this criminal remains in America. You have to cut through all of the bogus stuff on this.

[B]

Who do you think he's gonna be voting for?

[C]

That's why they do it. They do this because they know foreign immigrant criminals will hurt America, but they will further the transformation of America. That's the objective. And I just think every single Democrat, it doesn't matter what state they're in, they should just be. Yeah. Your vice presidential candidate from the most recent election pardoned a child rapist. Why? Why did you, what do you feel about that? Why does it feels like there's a pattern with your party? Because. And they should, they should line up with other examples where people, this is not the first pardon. Like this, this is not the first case. And they should just say, okay, here's your history of pardons. Here's your history of changing the law. Don't Americans have a right to feel a little wary about this? You guys say you're running against the Epstein class. Okay? President Trump put Epstein in jail where he then killed himself. And you guys are making sure that a rapist stays in America, a child rapist.

[B]

It's a totally fair point. And we see this with the kids that were smuggled across the humane border of Joe Biden and the Democrats. A lot of them got sexually assaulted in the country. So you're talking about the pedo class. Who's the pedo? Open borders and letting insane people into your country and then pardoning them when they are proven criminals. This guy pleaded guilty. That's the pedo class. It's infuriating. But we know the Democrat party is getting more and more radical. Okay? We know it and we see this now happening with the abolish ice crowd. The abolish, the police, the abolish prisons. They're called communists. They call themselves dsa, but they're really communists. These are Bolsheviks. And the revolution is coming for the Democrat Party. Hi, folks. Andrew Colvett here. I'd like to tell you about my friends over at Y Refi. You've probably been hearing me talk about why Refi for some time now. We are all in with these guys. If you or someone you know is struggling with private student loan debt, take my advice and give them a call. Maybe you're behind on your payments. Maybe you're even in default. You don't have to live in this nightmare anymore. Yrefi will provide you a custom payment based on your ability to pay. They tailor each loan individually. They can save you thousands of dollars and you can get your life back. We go to campuses all over America and we see student after student who's drowning in private student loan debt. Many of them don't even know how much they owe. Y Refi can help. Just go to yrefi.com that's the letter Y. Then refi.com and remember why Refi doesn't care what your credit score is. Just go to yrefi.com and tell them your friend Andrew sent you. What a great patriotic moment that was. We're into the round of 16. I know some of you guys. Oh, you know soccer. We don't like soccer. I love when team America wins.

[C]

I, I, I hate soccer. But I will say one of my earliest memories, it was the 2022 World cup in Qatar, and Charlie was literally watching it on his phone during the show. It was really like, would ask a question to the guest and then totally not paying attention, just looking at his phone and he would send in the chat like we just scored.

[B]

Mark Halperin. Mark Halperin hates football and soccer or whatever you want to call it.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Bring him in. In just a second. I'm kidding. I don't know where he's at on this.

[A]

All right.

[B]

Mark Halperin is the host of Next. Next up with. Wait, hold on. Mark, you have two shows. This is it. Just brain.

[C]

He's the editor in chief of two way.

[B]

Two way.

[A]

Three shows.

[C]

Next up on the Megyn Kelly.

[A]

I have three shows.

[B]

Yeah, three.

[A]

Two on two way. The morning meeting and two way tonight. And then I have next stop. But anything, anything else you ask me, I'll only give the same answer no matter what the question. Usa, usa. Usa. Don't say I hate soccer, gentlemen. The rest of the world loves football. It's the beautiful game and it just. I know you guys have a brand equity in being Philistines, but no, do not hate it. It's a beautiful game.

[B]

Everyone else in the world loves it. Everyone.

[C]

We're America, the best country in the world, so we have better sports.

[B]

The upshot of the Brazilification of America is that we just get better at. At soccer, at football. Do we though?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean, obviously this team is like all. They're all playing in Europe. They're all like, is the top striker on the Italian team? He's on.

[C]

I think our players are heavily just, you know, white and black guys. We've had those a long time.

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Well, that's true.

[A]

It's also the greatest moment in the sun for West Virginia since the Bird rule, because.

[B]

So true.

[A]

Take me home country road to the place I belong West Virginia Matt and Mama Take me home country roads. I never thought a West Virginia song would be our national anthem, but there you go.

[B]

It's so good though. It just feels right. And I get. I got chilled. I'll just be honest. I'm a total sucker for anything patriotic. And when we won two after that incredibly stupid red card. That should be appealed. I don't know. I don't know if Trump has to grant clemency to our striker or whatever. That guy's actually kind of like nicer.

[C]

Be careful. I think Trump is. He might be like, we're going to suspend the games unless they reverse the red card.

[B]

He might, he might because the guy's banned from the next match. This is ridiculous. It was a total incidental. This is why Americans don't like it. The flopping.

[A]

Let me ask you a question. I've been on for about four minutes now. Can we have a hydration break?

[B]

Hey, listen, east coast, you know, I'm heading there tomorrow, so it's Blake, it's, you know, the heat is no joke, man. The heat is real. Although this match was played in San Francisco.

[A]

It's, it's, it's hot here. There's no doubt. But, but we're impervious to that because we just turned the air conditioned to Mandami sanctioned 78 degrees.

[B]

That was wonderful.

[A]

Cool down and 70. 78.

[B]

Is there anything more socialist?

[C]

The funny thing is I set my home AC to about 70.

[A]

No, you do not. People, people, people keep saying this to me. Get rid of the air conditioner if you're going to set it on 78. Open the windows and turn on a fan. 78.

[C]

You don't want to open the windows here. You get moths if you do that here.

[A]

78. Now, do you mean 68? Because that's where it should be set.

[B]

Yeah, I'm a. I'm a. I'm a 72 to 74. I don't know why.

[A]

When the Astrodome opened, It was mandated 68 degrees. I live by the Astrodome rules, okay?

[B]

I want.

[C]

I want to be able to.

[A]

I want to be able to freeze water into ice cubes. Right? My head.

[B]

Well, listen, this is all very fascinating stuff, but I will tell you. Is there any more socialist, like, image possible? Then you got rent freezes, and then you got, you know, freeze your thermostat at 78. I mean, the malaise. You can feel the malaise just, like, creeping in. Anyways, I. I hope. I hope that kind of stuff actually has some sort of political impact because it is so close to home. It's visceral. It's daily life kind of stuff.

[A]

Do you know what? I do know what I plan to do? I plan to go to Madison Square Garden tomorrow night, walk right in, and if. And check the thermostat. And if Taylor has it above 78 degrees or below 78 degrees, I'm an arrester. Citizens, citizens, arrest.

[B]

Her name is not Taylor Swift after this weekend. It's Taylor Kelsey. And if she doesn't take the last name. She doesn't. She doesn't mean it. Yeah, that's.

[C]

That's what we believe.

[B]

That is. That is a great Charlie, as a matter of fact.

[C]

You may disagree, but you disagree on soccer, too, Mark, So, you know, judgment is suspect.

[A]

Except we do agree, assuming they've never had sex before now. I agree with you.

[B]

Well, yeah, there you go. That I would. I think they're chased, Chast. All right, Mark, I got to talk about this. I want. Give me the. What's that you said?

[A]

Yes, sir.

[B]

Yes, sir. All right.

[A]

Occasionally, I like to pretend it is your show and I don't hijack it

[B]

so well that I appreciate you giving us some deference here. I need the Donny Deutsch clip. Where is that clip? Oh, yeah, Okay. I was hanging out with you.

[C]

You got too excited.

[B]

Too excited about football and all this stuff. Give me the. Which clip is it? 35. Is that what it is?

[C]

No, no, I think that's Charlie talking about Taylor Swift.

[B]

Okay. All right, here's the deal. The old politics is gone, Mark. Till my team gets me the clip that I need and the establishment Dems are freaking out and I don't think they have a clue what's coming their way. I think Trump unleashed the animal passions of the populist base on both sides and, and it took all these years for it to catch up on the left. I think the establishment Dems are absolutely unprepared for this moment. They are going to get wiped out.

[C]

And we have proof. We have the clip now. It's Donny Deutsch. 21.

[A]

Democrats are going off the rails.

[D]

They're not even focused.

[B]

What matters to people is affordability.

[A]

And Democrats right now are focused on two things.

[B]

They're focused on anti Semitism and socialism.

[A]

That's not all Democrats, not all, but

[B]

that's where the energy in the parties this is. Right now every Republican strategist is, is

[D]

salivating on what these people have said

[B]

in the past and they're going to

[A]

wallpaper it with it.

[B]

And Democrats are going down a bad path. They're electing these Democratic socialists. It's a disaster.

[A]

No matter what you think of it,

[B]

Wherever your politics are, it's bad strategy. Do you agree? Bad strategy.

[A]

Was that Donny Deutsch or Steve Bannon or Roger Stone? Hard to say.

[B]

I think it was Maddow. That's it.

[A]

Yeah. I have a lot of thoughts about this. I'll try to be brief and you follow as you wish. Of course. You look at these candidates who are who Donnie believes and others and certainly the President believes will define the party. There's two things. One is. Well, three things, sorry. One is their populist and anti establishment. And that's good. Now it's not comforting to some members of the Democratic establishment, but. But that's energy and that's passion and that's mobilization. Second thing is they have a lot of really left wing views, right. Therefore no police, no ice, no borders, no prisons, single payer health care. Right. There are a lot of left wing positions that are very popular with tens of millions of people, but probably are not winning general elections. And then the third thing is they say a lot of crazy stuff. Now some things in the second bucket are seen by many as crazy, like abolish ice, but also tens of millions of people like it. But then they say anti Semitic things, anti white things. They say crazy stuff. Donnie, I think is insufficiently focused on the difference between two and three. They're both big problems. But most of the Democratic Party is pretty far left. Maybe not as far left as some of these candidates. But I agree with Donnie, and in the main that this is A massive problem. The President hasn't quite found his voice on it. But by election day, by the convention in Dallas, see you guys there.

[E]

He will.

[A]

And almost certainly. And, and this is electoral disaster. To be a socialist party. Democrats like socialism, the general election electorate, not so crazy about the implications of it.

[B]

Well, that's my big question. Right. Because. And Mark, with all due respect, you've been covering this beat for a long time, but the country that you were covering when you started as a journalist and reporter is not the same country that we have now. We've imported millions of people. We have a complete. Demographically, we're different. Spiritually, we're different. There are different, I would say, obstacles in our path. We've been printing money like crazy for decades and that has hollowed out the middle class. It's devalued the dollar, the offshoring. What my point is, what the DSA folk, the crowd are reacting to are very real problems and very felt needs. If you're making $60,000 a year, right. And that's real. And you know, you think about Oren Cass, where you used to be able to support a family of four if the dad went to work for 43 weeks a year, now it's like 65 weeks a year. You got to work to support a family of four. Things are different. Does the underlying changes in American society make the rise of socialism, and I really call it Marxism. They want to do it electorally at first, at least at first. Does it change your calculus?

[A]

My calculus about what?

[B]

Yeah, you say this is electoral. Electorally a bad strategy. Politically, a bad strategy.

[A]

Well, I agree with exactly how you framed it. I remember in 2016, one of the most resonant moments for me was a big Bernie Sanders event in New Hampshire. The Sanders folks were angry at the Democratic establishment embodied by Hillary Clinton, than they were Donald Trump by, like a lot. When I would talk to them, you talk about Trump like an abstraction. And, and in some cases, of course, then and now agree with Donald Trump both about the long term economic decline and the roots of it, but also about some of the solutions. I think that if you imagined a parallel universe where someone had all these populist positions, charisma and some populist solutions that were center left or left left, that'd be super powerful. But these people, the candidates in this, in the spotlight now, the Democratic socialists who are Democratic nominees, they're far to the left of that. So I think what you're framing, does it change my view. It changes my view that about what might be. But what is, is that they've got these anti Semitic positions and they therefore things like abolishing ICE that are unpopular when they stay on the economy and their economic description of what's happened to the country and they capture and harness that anger as Donald Trump did in 2016. I think they're very potent and I think they could win some general elections. The problem for them is James Blair and the president and lots of other Republicans will highlight their anti Semitism, their extreme statements on on issues like policing that make it difficult for them to have the affordability message breakthrough.

[B]

Mark, tell us your shows again.

[A]

Monday through Friday, 8, 9am Eastern time. The morning meeting on two way. Watch it on YouTube the two way platform or X live or on demand, 5pm Eastern time Monday through Friday, two way tonight on same platforms and then Tuesdays and Thursdays. I do next up that drops as a podcast and on YouTube and so that's 10, 12 shows a week. Plus I do a lot of other things.

[B]

And plus you do our show from time to time.

[C]

What's your fourth show going to be when you get around to it? Are you gonna do like a Sunday NFL show?

[A]

Cook cooking show.

[C]

Cooking cooking with Mark.

[B]

I like that apron.

[A]

First two way. First two way cooking show. I've got a bunch of shows, you know, I got a polling show that I do once a month now with with Harris X where very transparent about the methodology and then we take questions from people so you can come on and ask questions. So people constantly complaining about polls but as Mark Twain would say, they never do anything about it. But now you can listen to the poll presentation and then citizens can raise their hands and say what about this and what's a cross tab on that? And you know, how does this compare to other polls?

[C]

So what a machine. What a machine. But we're talking about this rise of democratic socialism, left wing economic views, very left wing views, on ice, on the Jews, on a lot of things. And I guess the thought that just entered my head during the break, Mark is you're saying it might be the future of the country, but for now it's political poison. And all I can think is I feel like I've been around the block a few times. I remember 2015, 2016 where oh yeah, President Trump has some popular stuff, but he also has wacky stuff on other issues and that will kill him. And I just wonder, could this sort of wave basically create its own reality where we're saying this stuff is really unpopular and instead of making it, making them Lose. They just have the power to make these things popular.

[A]

Yes. Could be. Could be. You know, you can't take out the element of Trump as one of the best presidential candidates, one of the best politicians we've ever seen. So I imagine a parallel universe where John Ossoff shared Bernie Sanders point of view and was determined to become president of the United States and knew how to round off the sharp edges. You know, I workshop this with you because I'm gonna do it on Next up next week, but I'm still reporting it out, you know. And you guys baseball fans, right? That's an American game. Yes, sir. They say the hardest thing in all of sports is hitting a baseball. And you know what they say the second thing of all sports is preventing somebody hitting a baseball. Right. These are really hard things. The hardest thing in Democratic Party politics is, is as a socialist to win the nomination, the presidential nomination, because the establishment we saw in 2016 and 2020 will bribe and steal and cheat to keep you from winning the nomination. I think the second hardest thing in Democratic presidential politics now is to stop a socialist from becoming the Democratic nominee. And what you have in this presidential field, and I believe that this is where the fight will happen, there'll be skirmishes in the midterms, but this fight for the heart and soul of the Democratic Party will occur in the context of the 2028 presidential campaign. What you have is a bunch of very unskilled candidates, both the socialists and the establishment. They're all very weak candidates. If Bill Clinton or Barack Obama were running against the socialists, it'd be no contest. If Jon Ossoff were a socialist, I think it'd be no contest. The problem is, how do you handicap a contest of inept second grade soccer players, Two really poorly equipped soccer team second graders roll the ball out. Who's going to win, the socialist team or the capitalist team? Hard to know because they're so weak.

[C]

You say that and it got me thinking. I was looking at the polls the other day, and we're in. We're in sort of the Indian summer of the Kamala Harris return to her. She was the sort of default early. She fell off, which I expected. But now she's back in first place. She's rising in the polls again, and Axios is reporting she's cozying up with some of these DSA elements called monbani. Are we? Are we actually, do you think we're likely to get the Kamala Harris 28 Redux? Possibly?

[A]

I don't think so, but I'd also say of all the people talked about from the establishment wing of the party, to potentially be the nominee, I would put her towards the bottom in having the sophistication and skill to run for the nomination, not as a pure socialist, but finesse the relationship. It says obviously what she's trying to do here, whether it's in the context of running for president or not. She doesn't agree with Mondami on a bunch of stuff, but she's calling him up to try to finesse it, to say, I want the socialists on my side because that's where the energy is, the fundraising, the grassroots, the volunteering, the door knocking. But I'll say again, that task is the second toughest thing in American Democratic presidential politics. And I don't think she's up to it. I think that the tiger who she's grabbing by the tail and calling the tiger will eat her. She will not ride the tiger to the nomination.

[B]

Well, listen, I think all of this, this is something Charlie talked a lot about. I know Bannon's talked a lot about it. But there are two roads that we can choose as a country before us. One is the Mamdani Bolshevik Socialist revolution. It could get bloody. There's a lot of bad stuff associated with it. And then there's maga. But here's the problem. President Trump's populist, capitalist American reform is getting stuck in the Senate. It's getting bastardized and slowed down at every front by whether it's judicial obstruction or whatever. And my fear is that the reform that would actually help alleviate some of the affordability, needs, wants and concerns that are very real is getting blocked by real politic. It's getting blocked by the D.C. establishment. And I fear that that is creating discontent that we're not delivering on our promises, that this is what's actually fueling the rise of the socialist left, the Bolsheviks. And this is a five alarm fire for conservatives, too. I looked at that Donny Deutsch clip and I'm like, okay, yeah, we can harness this. The question is how? And what's the right strategy? And do we have enough time left on the clock before they take root?

[A]

I agree with everything you said, except I'm not sure that's causing the rise of the left. I think that's causing disappointment on the right. The failure of the president to overcome the establishment in the Congress, in his own party, I don't know that's causing it. I think that the President has run up against the Washington establishment, and I think that's that's creating a fight for the heart and soul of the Republican Party and who the Republicans will look to for leadership in the future after Donald Trump. I don't think that's what's giving rise to Bernie. I think what's giving to the socialists, I think what's giving rise to the socialist is their obsession with Israel and Hamas and Gaza and Palestinians and the fact that if you think about it, in 2016 and 2020 they were going to nominate their person and, and the establishment just stole it. And then in 2024, they couldn't run anybody because no one was going to challenge Joe Biden and then Kamala Harris. So you imagine if you're someone who came of age in 2015 and were attracted to socialist policies which are popular in much of the rest of the world, you've now gone more than a decade where the party that you associate yourself with has said, you can't, you can't have your, your aspirations, single payer, health care, abolition of ice, no more military aid to Israel. You can't have your aspirations expressed through even the openness of the Democratic Party to hearing those ideas for leadership. And I think that's what's given rise to it. It's not really, there's some, there's some connection to Donald Trump, but I think it's mostly all the stuff you mentioned before, income inequality and, and feeling like they can't buy a house, all the stuff Charlie talked about, they want to see those things adjudicated and ameliorated through socialist and communist policies. And the Democratic Party, their only vehicle up until now to try, says no, the establishment's got this.

[B]

I agree with that. I agree with that. But what I'm saying is the right wing populism energy that President Trump, the solutions have been so obstructed that I'm afraid, and this is what Charlie was afraid of, is that we are in a race against the clock. And either our ideas are going to work and they're going to work somewhat quickly, or this energy that we've been perceiving from the left is going to swamp the movement and it's going to pull off enough normies and independents, they're going to win. And so if we don't have the energy and the winds, we're going to lose and they're going to win.

[A]

I agree, but the two caveats, One is they can't, they have to have someone who's talented like Donald Trump is talented, has to be someone who can pull this off because a lot of the country would reject socialism, but they might buy it from someone who's better. Communicator, et cetera. The other thing, like Obama. The other thing is. Or Clinton, Bill Clinton. The other thing is you can't come to it with abolish ice, abolish prisons, abolish the police. The populist economic message has. Could have broad popularity if Republicans blow it. But that other stuff's never going to be popular. That other stuff's 8020 against.

[B]

I hope you're right. So insane, Mark. I know you got to go. Thank you for wrapping, guys.

[A]

Great to see you. Get on the pitch with your, with your mates and play some football.

[B]

Country roads, Mark. Country roads. We'll see you next time, my friend. Good to see you. I want to talk to you about an issue so many Americans face and that's health insurance. There's an organization I really, really appreciate called Christian Healthcare Ministries. CHM is a faith based alternative to health insurance. And this is real stuff. Folks like you gotta listen in. With chm, you're not paying into a company's profit margin. You're investing in a community with less overhead than the competition. You get reliable support through the giving and prayer of fellow members. Members contribute every month to help pay for each other's medical bills, allowing believers to afford the care they need because they're not insurance. You get access to your preferred doctor or hospital without network restrictions.

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[C]

I'm happy they're in the coalition.

[B]

Yeah, exactly. But I am actually a huge proponent. Charlie was a huge proponent of it. And I'm gonna wanna talk about this rise in cancer which is really, really disturbing. Actually. I think we have a graphic of this. This is global cancer incidence. Global cancer incidents rose by approximately 42% over the last measured decade. Cancer's up 42% over the last decade, which is just incredible. The sheer volume of new cancer cases grew drastically from 14.1 million to. To 20 million annually. While cancer deaths have more than doubled since 1980. Something is going on. And during a recent Senate committee hearing, doctors and medical professionals suggested an interesting link between cancer and the COVID 19 vaccine. And I think this is a really, really important topic that we need to dive into. So we have a special guest with us who has over 50 years in this space in health and wellness, and that is Kim Bright. She is the founder of Brightcore, one of the friends of our program and partners. Kim, welcome to the show. It's so great to have you, Andrew.

[D]

Thanks for having me. Hi, Blake. Let's convince you, Blake, that this stuff's really important.

[B]

Listen, Kim, I could use your help on this because he's one of these. Everything's woo woo to him, guys. And I'm a big believer. I follow the Maha movement very, very closely. And I'm really working on getting microplastics out of my diet, my water, all that stuff. Just got an ro, by the way. Really important. Reverse osmosis. It's another topic for another time.

[D]

That's great. But have you guys seen that Senate committee hearing? Have you seen that clip?

[B]

Yeah, and I think we have a clip that we're pulling right now as well, Kim. We're having some sort of technical difficulty with it, but the Senate, Senator Blumenthal, was involved in this, and they're still pushing these vaccines all these years later, which I find crazy, but, like, of course they are, because there's so much money involved, there's vested interest, Big pharma, they totally have an agenda. But, like, we need to remember that these vaccines were also linked to myocarditis, hypertension, blood clotting, like thrombosis, neurological conditions. And. And now I think it's really important that we ask the question, is there a direct correlation between these vaccines that they forced everybody to take and cancer?

[D]

Well, you know, I just have to say that, you know, a lot of people do believe that Senator Blumenthal and the demon rats are still pushing the safety of these vaccines. It's hard for them to believe. Some people believe that, but it's hard for others to believe. And they are. And they've got those vested interests of Big Pharma on their agenda. And like you said, we've got the myocarditis, hypertension, blood clotting effects, severe neurological conditions like migraines, seizures, Alzheimer's, autoimmune disorders, and increased inflammation, which is leading to all kinds of problems, including cancer and who knows what is still to Come because a lot of the consequences of taking these vaccines, they do not materialize right away. And can you believe you guys, that Big Pharma's solution to this cancer epidemic is yet another MRNA vaccine?

[B]

Yeah, I mean, I can, because they get a lot of money doing this, Kim. And that's the real issue, I think, with a lot of this stuff. That's why I'm a big fan of RFK and what he's doing there. By the way, Kim, did you know that RFK Jr. Endorsed President Trump in 2024 at an event that we produced here in Phoenix, Arizona?

[D]

Yes, I actually saw it. I watched it over and over again and I am so, I'm so happy. I actually said to some of my friends when he came on stage, I said, wouldn't it be great if he could become vice president? And yet he's filling such a better role in what President Trump put him in. So, yes, I did see that he's

[A]

doing a great job.

[B]

But he's, I mean, obviously he's famous for some of his skepticism about some of these vaccines, but yeah, the Moderna cancer vaccine. What do you make of this, Kim?

[D]

Well, I make of it that it's not something that I would ever use and I'm hoping that others will wouldn't use it either, based on the history. I mean, you know, you. There's a video, people have to see a video about the Moderna cancer vaccine and they will, I think, be convinced because in this video, the head of Moderna actually laughs after he finishes explaining it because he says, oh, this is a real study. Well, as opposed to what? So we already know what the mrnrna, the MRNA did with COVID So, you know, in my opinion, these pharmaceutical CEOs, they don't actually care about people's lives. They care about the bottom line. They care about the profits. And they're trying to sell the idea that the solution to cancer being caused by an MRNA vaccine is yet another vaccine. It's kind of like trying to cure cancer with more cancer, which is insane. So, you know, this is why people say that we have, in this country, what we have is not a health care system, it's a sick care system. I've been doing this for over 50 years and I can tell you I was saying this long ago. And you know, in the end, the only winners of this are the pharmaceutical companies who are turning huge profits and getting everybody hooked on the idea of, you know, treating symptoms with more drugs.

[B]

Well, that's exactly right. I mean, and this was Something Charlie focused on a ton, by the way, that they get you sick, they provide the sickness remedy, quote, unquote, that makes you sicker, and then they provide another remedy to deal with the sickness that they caused. And that is exactly what happened. And by the way, not to talk about even bodily autonomy and our freedom when it comes to making our own healthcare decisions. This is exactly what Big Pharma does and they're pushing it again. So I'm watching this very closely, by the way, Kim. They're also doing this with our food and our agriculture. They're forcing through MRNA shots across the board. I mean, is there just a note on that? Is there when you say MRNA vaccines and things like this, distinct from say like the old school polio vaccine, does that raise your suspicions immediately like it does mine?

[D]

Yes. And you know, I've watched, like I said, I've been involved with helping people for over 50 years. I'm 71 now. And so I started, you know, getting involved with this whole movement back, you know, when I was 20. So I think that I've had a very, a lot of empirical knowledge come to me because of seeing and helping people. And yes, we have a way to do things naturally. We don't. You address the cause of things, you don't address symptoms. And that's where western medicine went off the rails on purpose. Because when you address symptoms instead of cause, you make tons and billions and trillions of dollars over decades.

[B]

Well, they, they make you addicted to the system. And by the way, we see this with the trans movement, right? They get you. They're. They're basically trying to make people become annuities to the system, to the financial, to the health care industrial complex.

[D]

They're becoming objects, Andrew. They're taking humans and making them into objects. And I don't think that's what God intended, do you?

[B]

No, not at all. I mean, I have so many thoughts here, Kim, because one of the gals that I work with, she works remote, she's on the east coast, but she just, you know, gets admitted to the hospital and she's sitting there for eight hours with all this pain. She's, you know. You know, er, they won't give her anything for the pain for eight hours, you know, because they have all these protocols to follow. She's waiting for the doctor to come on. It's like a third world country at this hospital. It's er. All she's doing is begging for a little bit of, you know, like a Tylenol. And they won't even Give her that. Because the whole system in Canada, they

[C]

might offer her maid.

[B]

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[A]

We've been working on this for almost 10 years now. So it's a lot of investment in innovation.

[B]

With Merck, it's basically an individualized treatment for cancer.

[A]

So the data we shared is about skin cancer, melanoma, which as you know, a lot of people die from every year and other people are diagnosed with. And what is really unique about this drug called intismiran is that it's individualized.

[B]

Meaning if you and I were diagnosed

[A]

the same day by the same doctor with skin in cancer, Moderna will make a different medicine for your cancer and

[B]

the medicine for my cancer.

[A]

And that will be done in around 30 days. And as you said, the results are really exciting. If you look at the study, it was a phase two study, 157 people, it was randomized. So it was a real study.

[B]

That's terrifying. Actually, we're back with Kim Bright talking about how the COVID vaccine is proving to be even more damaging than we previously even imagined. Kim, what are some specifics like put some flesh and meat to the bones here, some specific examples that people can kind of keep in their mind of how this is true.

[D]

All right, well, let me bring up a specific case of a very healthy 30 year old woman. She was very athletic, she had no pre existing conditions and all of a sudden she starts to experience symptoms. Just one day, one day after receiving her second COVID 19 vaccine. Okay. Shortly after that, now she's diagnosed with lymphoblastic lymphoma and lymphoblastic leukemia. This is an aggressive blood cancer. Okay. In another case, a pregnant woman who had no idea that she was dealing with anything other than normal symptoms that occur when you're pregnant was diagnosed with blood cancer and literally died the next day. Now, she was only 28 years old and she started dealing with flu like symptoms. For a few days she couldn't eat and even her legs stopped working. She could not stand. Now, it is not uncommon for people to mistake cancer symptoms for other less severe illnesses. And there are simple things like cold and flu symptoms and back pain that are often associated. And some of the first symptoms that people will experience when they have cancer. And just because they're not experiencing their first symptoms does not mean that the cancer is not in its advanced stages. Now, she literally died the day after her diagnosis. So I mean, this is sad. She left behind her husband or two children. It's such a heartbreaking story. And so much of the rise in the cancer incidence has to do with what we consume. And I'm not just talking about these vaccines, Andrew. So much of the recent research has shown that ultra processed foods have a direct link to this spike in cancer rates. And so it's not only about what you avoid consuming, like the ultra processed foods and the chemicals. It's about the good things that you decide to put or not to put in your body as well. Which is why I got very excited to find a study that I found regarding cancer. And this study got me so excited because it measured the actual potential of lactic acid bacteria that's found in a centuries old fermented food called Kimchi to prevent cancer. They showed this in this study and this study concluded, and I quote, the antibiotic tolerant probiotic presented in Kimchi suppresses expression of carcinogen activating enzymes and possesses many other health benefits. Benefits such as suppression of growth and development of pathogenic bacteria, Intestinal regulation and immune boosts, especially the WC Bayara and L. Plantarum found in Kimchi have many effects like anti inflammatory immune modulating and blood cholesterol reducing activity, which may account for their cancer preventative anti cancer prevention potential. Now, cancer isn't. Cancer is much more likely to arise when you have an immune system because that isn't functioning properly. Another recent study revealed Kimchi's ability to rewire the way our immune systems work, making them stronger and more efficient.

[B]

Yeah, I'm looking at this. One group received a Placebo. While the other two groups received two different types of kimchi powder. Kimchi that had been freeze dried and put into a capsule. That's amazing.

[D]

Exactly, exactly. And having a stronger immune system isn't just about avoiding cancer. It makes you less susceptible to contracting viruses and other pathogens. And what's interesting, you guys, about so many of these kimchi studies is that they are using the kimchi capsules because there's no other way to conduct a controlled placebo study.

[B]

Well, I will just say that I think, Blake, you like the taste of it, right?

[C]

Oh, kimchi's great.

[B]

I can't say it. I just eat it.

[C]

Yeah, I love that stuff.

[B]

But anything like fermented or pickled or anything like that, I just, it's not for me, but my wife loves it. But I, but. So I need, I need it in a pill. Like, I can't do it if it's not in a pill.

[D]

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[B]

I will tell you, I'm a huge believer in this. I think the gut health, the microbiome is the key. Like the reason we want to keep hitting this topic so hard on the show is I think gut health is the key to health. I'm completely convinced of this.

[D]

Like our Andrew, you're 100% right. I said that 50 years ago and got laughed at and told I was insane and crazy.

[C]

No, no.

[D]

50 years.

[B]

But now being proven correct, it's everything. This is why when our food gets turns to crap, everybody's health falls off a cliff. So anyways, I just, I'M telling you, this is like we, we, Blake and I on this show like to talk about the one, the fix everything switch. Like for politics, it's like immigration or like, you know, feminism or something like that. In health, it's the gut. All right. So do you. Okay. So do you have a special offer that you can give our viewers today?

[D]

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[B]

Give them a call. Give Kim a call. 888-317-9258. Thank you, Kim. God bless you. Thank you so much.

[D]

God bless you guys. Thank you.

[B]

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[E]

Well, thank you for having me. You know, you talk about what is American. You know, so I just see this news thing. So ICE agents tried to arrest Clemente Lara Hernandez from Mexico, and instead of complying peacefully, he rammed his car into ICE vehicles and fled the scene. And so I'm tired of this crap. I'm tired of this being the normal refrain in this country where civilians are at risk because of these people coming to this country. They use and abuse our system, and they're taking away and hurting Americans as we go, which is why I'm so outspoken on immigration. This is America. We get to choose who comes in. We also get to choose who leaves. And this guy should be out of here.

[B]

I completely agree. And now we've got birthright. The Supreme Court, instead of narrowly tailoring their decision, making it a statutory, a legislative fix, they've basically said the Constitution's very clear, the 14th amendment is very clear, and anybody born on the king's soil is a subject of the king, they're going back to English common law. If people aren't picking up the. The context of what I'm saying there, they're not addressing the fact that we broke from the king, and even England doesn't follow that Jew solely whatever nonsense anymore. Okay, so you are hard at work trying to come up with legislative solutions. What is the fix to this, sir?

[E]

Well, I mean, first, you know, there's a bigger answer there in that we have to completely overhaul immigration, but specifically to the birthright issue. So one thing I'll say, and I'm not defending the Supreme Court, unfortunately, they got this wrong. They got this horribly wrong. But that being said, Congress for too long has allowed the Supreme Court to be a legislative body for too long, Congress has usurped its authority in its obligation to pass laws and to answer these questions and what, what, what has Congress done? They kick it to the Supreme Court. And so this should have never have gotten to the Supreme Court. And if you look at the 14th amendment, Jacob Howard, the author, he's clear in his testimony into the Senate on what he's talking about, and I'll read it. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners or aliens. That's foreigners, comma, aliens. And so we have the opportunity to define what aliens is or what or who they should be or would be. And so that's what I'm trying to do. So the temporary fix is my Anchors Away Bill, which basically says if you're pregnant and you're not a citizen, you're not a green card holder, you need not come to the United States of America because we're not going to let you have your baby on our soil. And why. Why is that such a big deal? Because you have members of the Chinese Communist Party, the upper echelon, the elite that hate this country, the elite that hack our country every single freaking day. I'm chairman of Cyber, and when I go into this gift and I get the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the classified reports, it's China, China, China, China. And you literally have a million Chinese kids who have been born in the United States or Guam, but they're being raised in China by the Chinese Republic. They're being taught to hate America. And every single one of them, if they're a United States Senate or a citizen, could run for the presidency of the United States. Our founding fathers never contemplated that that would be an option.

[A]

Right.

[E]

And so this is the Supreme Court again. Congress should have never have let it gotten to get this far, but here we are. And so I'm legislating. I've got this Assimilation act, which addresses immigration. I've got the Re Migration act, which addresses denaturalization. So people like Mamdani who lied on their N400 could be deported. And then we've got this, which addresses the 14th Amendment and the Anchors Away bill. We've got to be loud. We've got to be proud. This is our country. We get to define the terms.

[B]

I love your stance on all of this. Your staff knows that I share your views on basically all of the above. So, okay, Anchors Away. I have a technical question, but I actually think it's important. I don't know if you know the answer to it. Maybe Blake does. If a foreign national is flying over US Airspace.

[A]

Oh, boy.

[B]

And has the baby on the plane.

[C]

U.S. citizen.

[B]

U.S. citizen.

[C]

And that's actually really crazy because we have to admit people you know to the United States at customs. But getting into US airspace is easier. You can get on a plane in Canada and fly it over the United States and land in Mexico.

[B]

And if you timed your birth just

[C]

right, if you time it right, I mean you, and you log it, you know, I can imagine paperwork obstacles to this. But we have judges eager to give citizenships.

[B]

It's an absurdity that exposes a deeper rot and in the way we thinking about this.

[E]

And well, and it's more than it's sinister. I mean, when you literally think about the fact that you have, you know, a 10 year old being raised in China right now to hate this country, to hate the United States of America and they're eligible to run for the, for the White House, I mean that's, that's unheard of. I mean, you literally, we literally could have a Chinese Communist party official as President of the United States in 20, 30 years because we've allowed this to happen, of course.

[B]

And it's all absurd, it's all obscene and it's a slap in the face. As Clarence Thomas said, I think brilliantly, this devalues what citizenship is supposed to be and what our founders intended it to be. So your legal premise though, I just want to make sure I'm very clear, is that because you're gonna redefine what an alien is legislatively and at that point that will get challenged in the courts, you think that has more of a chance of surviving legal muster.

[E]

That's right. So when you look at the abortion debate and the litigation that took decades to work its way through the Supreme Court until you had that right case, that right argument that they could, were quite frankly forced to adjudicate on. This definition of alien is I think where we attack, where we say we have a right to define who and what that, or who that applies to. And again, we're Congress, we write the laws. And you know, and when you look at the context of when this was written. So this was introduced in May of 1866. It was passed in the Senate first in June, then July in the house, and then two years later in July, the 14th Amendment was ratified. But they were not contemplating the United States allowing literally the direction enemy of this country to become citizens. Right. This was about those individuals who want to be here, have a reason to be here, want to assimilate and be a part of this country, want to be a part of our culture, the fabric. Meanwhile, you now have, again, I'm talking about the highest elite in China. Going to Guam, having their children, going back to China and raising communist leaders. Every one of them will end up with the US passport. Every one of them will end up with US citizenship. And regardless of what the libtard media says, the most powerful, the most important, the most sought after passport in this, in the world is the US passport. Which is why you have Chinese having babies on US soil. Because they want that passport and they want that citizenship.

[B]

I mean a thousand percent. And you know, you've got these Northern Mariana Islands where you don't even need a visa. That seems to be something that the State Department could fix relatively quickly. And you do have birth tourism. We have a clip and I'll show you this congressman from 2013, I believe this was 60 Minutes or CBS where they're talking about Chinese birth tourism in 2013. And the number you cited there. A million.

[C]

A million.

[B]

Could be a million.5 more people than

[C]

are in Wyoming, in South Dakota, in North Dakota.

[B]

These are Chinese. Several US states. Peter Schweitzer has done a lot of investigation, investigation on that. Go ahead sir.

[E]

Well I was going to say in the real issue and one thing that just kind of underscores the problem, we don't know, is it a million, is it 2 million, is it 950,000? We have no idea how many of these party communist officials are being raised in China to run for U.S. offices.

[B]

Yeah, no, that's a great point. Who knows how dastardly the plans behind the scenes are at the ccp. And these guys think long term. By the way, we're talking about two year cycles here. Chinese are thinking 100 years down the road place at 39.

[E]

Her name is Ada Lin. She's four months old and the only American citizen in her family. Her parents who agreed to speak with us if we didn't show their faces, traveled from China to Los Angeles so Ada could be born in America and claim U.S. citizenship. I want her to live a happy life. Her father says the family is back in China now. They are among thousands of Chinese who've become so called birth tourists staying in maternity hotels near Los Angeles. These hotels are often single family homes in quiet neighborhoods.

[B]

Yeah, real good job. John Roberts and Amy Coney Barrett. That's exactly what the founders intended, that have some Chinese foreign national raise their baby and guarantee I just want my daughter to have a happy life. What CCP operative told you to say exactly that? Oh, it's just, you know, if you

[C]

read about an, a medieval country or an ancient country having this policy, you would just roll your eyes and say that was incredibly dumb and they deserved whatever disaster happened to them.

[E]

Of course, you would literally pinpoint the beginning of the end of that civilization

[B]

is what it would do. Thousand percent. You know, something that gets a lot of attention, I think rightly so, is the Hart Cellar act was passed in 1965. Massive, massive overhaul of our immigration policy. I believe there's that famous quote by Ted Kennedy.

[C]

We will not get a million immigrants in our cities a year. This will not change the makeup of our country.

[B]

It did exactly the opposite. So it ended the national origins quota system that was in place since the 1920s. The previous system favored immigrants from northern and western Europe, you know, somewhat southern and Eastern Europeans as well. And it replaced it with a preference system based on family reunifications. This is where we get the chain migration. This is where we get the, the tos and the tias and the, the prima's all coming over. You know, family reunification. You know, it's interesting, this DSA gal in, I forget her name, the one that just won in Colorado, Marat Kara.

[C]

I don't know.

[B]

Yeah, anyway, something Star wars name. Yeah, exactly. You know, she was a, her dad, she was born in Addis Ababa in Ethiopia. Her dad won the visa lottery and so they moved, you know, for no particular reason. We just moved somebody here. I'm not sure why.

[C]

We just do it. Yeah, we have a diversity lottery. I remember when I worked at Fox and I discovered we had that, we called it the diversity lottery and we just gave tens of thousands to basically anyone who hit some bare minimum threshold and we just picked them at random. And I thought this is the most insane of all the insane policies that America has.

[B]

Well, and so Hart Celler helped raise the amount of immigrants every year from about 297,000 in 1965 to about a million, 1.2 million a year decades later.

[C]

Just the legal ones.

[B]

These are legal? Yeah. So the foreign born population grew from 9.6 million, about 5% of the US population in 1965, to probably about 15% now in 20. It was probably more than that, actually. About. About 60 million people now.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

What is your plan for this abysmal atrocity that we've done to ourselves to deal with Hart Celler? And is there any will in Congress, sir?

[E]

Well, I will say, you know, I've been very outspoken on this issue. I've taken a lot of arrows for it. But that being said is we have to have this conversation. And what I would argue is that, you know, we, you know, we, I'VE helped move that Overton window where now there's this opportunity to push forward. Now, look, let's be honest. Let's say the House passes my Assimilation act, my Remigration act, the Anchors Away Bill, and then the follow up legislation that we have again continuing to fix what is broken, the immigration system. You know, it's the Senate. The Senate is the problem. So you have the Save America act, which the House has passed, the SAVE act, we passed the Save America act, which has a few more provisions. It has over 80% approval. Republicans, Democrats, independents, black, white, brown, yellow, it doesn't matter. Conservative, liberal, everywhere in between. And the Senate isn't doing their job. And so what I would say to John Thune is if you're unwilling to answer the mandate of the American people, over 80% across the board have told you and commanded you what to do. You're a representative. We have a representative government in this country. Go do your job. And if not, you should get out of the way and let someone like Mike Lee or someone else do that job. We have a republic to save and to restore. And not passing the Save America act, not passing my immigration bills, is literally leaving the back door, you know, unlocked and open and giving a map to the thieves and criminals who want to destroy this country. Because that's what's happening every single freaking day.

[C]

Exactly. And on addressing this birthright thing we were discussing with Rick Scott the other day, there's no excuse for Republicans not to be putting up or down votes instead of these big omnibus monstrosities, you could have up or down bills on individual things like your idea. Sorry, we just can't let pregnant women into this country if it's going to be taken advantage of. And you can add layers to that because if you say they're not allowed to come here, you have a reason for a criminal prosecution if someone lies to come into the country about that. So you can say, okay, your child's a US Citizen, Supreme Court says so, but you still committed a crime to create this US citizen here, pay US $500,000 to pay for all the obligations we owe to this child now, or we could take your kid. Or there's so many ways that we can mitigate the damage of this. And there's no excuse for Republicans not to at least hold votes about this to get Democrats on the record and Republicans, Republican RINOs on the record about what they really believe about our country and its citizenship laws.

[E]

Well, and the other part of this conversation is people have concerns about AI. So again, I'M chairman of Cyber Infrastructure Protection, which includes part of AI. And people are worried about jobs, they're worried about the economy. Before 1965, we had a quota system. We were allowing the people in that we wanted in. They had something that we wanted or that we needed. And so we've got to get back to this idea that we're only allowing people in that are contributing to society. So you look under Joe Biden, you had roughly 200,000 Afghanis came into this country. Some of them are on welfare. Over 72, 73% get free health care. Meanwhile, we've got veterans killing themselves at a rate of 20 to 22 a day. If I have to choose between veterans and illegals or Afghanis, I'm always going to choose Americans. I'm always going to choose our veterans. You have kids in the third grade that can't read, write and do arithmetic. And oh, by the way, an important stat for prison are the kids that exit the third grade and cannot read, write and do arithmetic. We have a generation to save. And that generation is American born, American bred, and they love the red, white and blue. It's not some illegal from Ethiopia or Mexico or China that hates this country. And I'm not going to apologize for that. I never, never will.

[B]

Yeah, nor should you. I mean, completely agree on all the above. And it's like you're looking at this rise of the DSA commies. The, the Bolsheviks are coming, all right? And for the Republicans out there that are celebrating this, thinking this is some good thing. No, this is a terrible thing. This underscores and reveals a rot in our country that is decades in the making. We've printed ourselves into oblivion, sending money to far flung places and fighting stupid wars. And now the chickens are coming home to roost. And we've imported a permanent third world underclass that hates this country and wants to see the capitalist system which made this country so amazing, they want to see it brought down and destroyed. And so we've got to get serious about it. There are so many, five alarm fires, that it's impossible to name all of them. But what I will tell you is that what you are doing, Congressman, and moving the Overton window, we need at least 230just like you, and we need at least 60 of them in the Senate. But if we can't get 60, let's get at least 50 and we'll get it through somehow, reconciliation, whatever we gotta do. By the way, I'm hearing some rumblings that there are some, there are some good creative ideas about getting the Save America act through via reconciliation. They're gonna, they got some creative ideas. So we appreciate everything that you're doing. This is the fix everything switch. We need to digest these tens and tens of millions of foreigners and assimilate them properly and we gotta stop these anchor babies. So God bless you, sir. Thank you, thank you, thank you for coming continuing to push on this most important issue.

[E]

Well, thank you so much. And to to everyone watching, enjoy the 4th be safe and God bless America.

[B]

Amen. God bless you. And that's a good way to end it. 250 celebrate this country. Be grateful. Have gratitude. Say thank you to the Lord who has had his providential hand on this

[C]

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