The Charlie Kirk Show

Episode: The Shock Jock and Potato Katie ft. Lomez

Date: October 8, 2025
Guests: Lomez (Jonathan Keeperman), Blake Neff, Andrew Colvett

Episode Overview

This episode brings together Charlie Kirk's team and guest Lomez (Jonathan Keeperman) for an energetic, no-holds-barred exploration of recent news and culture war flare-ups. The hosts dissect viral left-wing figures, critique the state of progressive politics, and pay tribute to Charlie Kirk’s legacy and the future of conservative activism. Highlights include debates over animal cruelty allegations against Hasan Piker (“the Left’s Charlie Kirk”), an exposé on California gubernatorial candidate Rep. Katie Porter, discussion of conservative and progressive intellectual vitality, and reflections on the late Charlie Kirk’s movement-defining leadership and character.

Key Discussion Points & Segments

[01:20] Hasan Piker (“Shock Jock”) Controversy

Main Points:

• Hosts and guest Lomez dive into an online incident where leftist Twitch personality Hasan Piker allegedly uses a shock collar on his dog during a livestream, sparking outrage and ethical questions.
• They draw parallels between Piker’s online persona and broader left-wing politics, questioning his character and drawing ominous psychological conclusions.
• Discussion of NPR calling Hasan Piker “the Left’s Charlie Kirk,” which the crew finds both inaccurate and insulting to Kirk.

Notable Quotes:

• Lomez [03:54]: “This is a nasty person... I oppose animal cruelty in all forms. PETA ought to make an example out of Hasan... It’s well-known children who become sort of psychopaths have violent ideation ... torture animals in their youth. I think we’re seeing a familiar pattern here.”
• Host [05:36]: “I can’t tell what comparison is more insulting: Charlie Kirk and George Floyd, or Charlie Kirk and Hasan Piker?”

Segment Timestamps:

• [01:23] Hasan Piker story setup; “Shock Jock” label
• [02:58] Breakdown of the incident with the dog
• [03:54] Lomez on animal cruelty and character
• [05:36] NPR comparison & cultural outrage

[06:26] Contrasting "Shock Jock" Hasan with Conservative Activism

Main Points:

• Discussion shifts to the differing lifestyles and impact of figures like Charlie Kirk and Hasan Piker.
• The team emphasizes Charlie Kirk’s real-world activism and organizing, contrasting it with Piker’s online streaming.

Notable Quotes:

• Lomez [08:17]: “There’s just an obvious difference between the caliber of person here.”
• Host [08:59]: “Charlie was the ultimate grass-toucher... He met people on campus, did the grind work... lived in the real world.”

Segment Timestamps:

• [06:26] Kirk vs. Piker: debate that never happened
• [08:17] Personal impact and activism compared

[09:44] State of the Intellectual Left vs. Right

Main Points:

• Lomez gives a detailed analysis of why the right is now the “intellectual vanguard”, stating the left’s cultural dominance led to stagnation, while the right’s marginalized position incubated new ideas.
• They discuss policy areas such as nationalism and immigration where the right has advanced proactive positions.

Notable Quotes:

• Lomez [11:40]: “Being in that situation of being subordinate, being outside the eye of the public, allows a certain freedom of thought that is very generative. Now the right is way out ahead.”

Segment Timestamps:

• [09:44] Why the right has surged intellectually
• [11:40] Detailing the cultural dynamics

[14:41] Katie Porter (“Potato,” “Mashed Potatoes”) Segment

Main Points:

• Katie Porter, California gubernatorial candidate, is criticized for her combative media appearances and controversial personal history—including allegedly throwing hot mashed potatoes at her ex-husband.
• The team plays and critiques multiple Porter interview clips, focusing on her responses to tough questions and her framing of abortion as a response to inflation.
• Porter’s comment on pedophilia and identity sparks the hosts’ harshest rebuke.

Notable Quotes:

• Blake Neff [16:28]: “The reason I call her ‘mashed potatoes’ Katie Porter, besides physically resembling a pile of mashed potatoes...”
• Lomez [17:17]: “Katie Porter to me is the apotheosis of liberal politics ... a Longhouse matron ... perfectly the personality type that runs Democratic politics.”
• Lomez [24:14]: “...Could you imagine looking at the price of eggs and you decide that's going to be the reason I'm going to have an abortion. This is like really sick, vulgar, disturbing stuff ... the mouthpiece of the Democratic Party ... this is a death cult.”
• Lomez [28:04]: “I find this shockingly vulgar and despicable ... But as a political matter, I do think the existence and prominence of people like Katie Porter is a good thing for us ... it’s just intuitively obvious which side is good versus bad.”

Segment Timestamps:

• [14:41] Katie Porter interview breakdown & “mashed potato” nickname
• [16:28] Past abuse allegations and implications
• [17:17] Lomez on Porter as a symbol of liberal leadership
• [23:17] Abortion and inflation comment (Porter clip)
• [24:14] “Death cult” claim
• [27:32] Pedophilia as identity comment; group reaction

[31:02] Justice, Optics, and The Comey Perp-Walk

Main Points:

• Team discusses perceptions and strategies of accountability for figures like James Comey versus Democrats’ treatment of Trump and GOP allies.
• Debates whether public “perp walks” are valuable or counterproductive; some stress the need for real accountability, others urge focus on substantive ends over optics.

Notable Quotes:

• Blake Neff [30:52]: “Perp walking someone is not convicting them ... it's a superficial thing.”
• Lomez [31:09]: “The general public doesn't want to see anything that looks too vindictive ... a little bit of prudence from an optics perspective is well within what the Trump admin should do.”

Segment Timestamps:

• [31:02] Perp walk, justice, and “making martyrs”

[39:34] Reflecting on Charlie Kirk's Legacy

Main Points:

• As the episode closes, Lomez and the crew deliver personal tributes to the late Charlie Kirk, his unique ability to unite the right, his humility, and his positive, faith-driven leadership.
• They stress the importance of carrying forward Kirk’s model of “grassroots humility” and being a “happy warrior,” highlighting that his absence has created a significant void.
• Encouragement for conservatives to avoid bitterness and instead channel Kirk’s optimism and unity.

Notable Quotes:

• Lomez [39:34]: “Charlie was at the center of what was going to happen next on the right... it’s obvious you can’t replace someone like him. The best we can do is all pitch in a little bit and try to model ourselves on Charlie’s example.”
• Lomez [45:57]: “He was a positive force. ...The right should take instead the example of Charlie, again, which was his positive tone, a positive vision, a trust in the good to prevail over the bad ... there is plenty of strength in being positive.”
• Host [47:22]: “Two of the guiding principles of Turning Point from the very beginning were grassroots humility and being a happy warrior.”

Segment Timestamps:

• [39:34] Lomez’s tribute to Charlie Kirk
• [45:57] Happy warrior philosophy and faith
• [47:22] Final summation, "happy warrior" principle

Additional Notable Moments & Exchanges

• Potato Jokes and Roasts: The team riffs on Porter's looks and persona, calling her “Dolores Umbridge,” “a Roald Dahl character,” and extended potato-themed jabs, while acknowledging the primacy of ideas over personal attacks.

  • [26:54], [27:22], [29:00]

• On California's Political Climate: Lomez underscores the dangers of conservatives abandoning California, advocating for a “reconquista” to restore conservative values to the state.

  • [19:47–21:23]

• Katie Porter on “Pedophilia as an Identity”: (Clip and Discussion)

  • [27:32–28:52]

• The Legacy and Fracturing of Conservatism Without Kirk: The panel voices concerns that Kirk’s absence leaves the movement vulnerable to division or loss of direction, urging listeners to pursue lasting unity.

  • [39:34–43:49]

Overall Tone

• Unapologetically combative: Hosts take strong stances, use dramatic language ("death cult," "Longhouse matron"), and frequently employ humor and ridicule.
• Earnest admiration: Team is deeply affected by Kirk’s passing and celebrates his example.
• Populist and activist: Consistent focus on grass-roots action and cultural engagement.

Useful Timestamps Quick Reference

• [01:20] - Hasan Piker controversy starts
• [08:17] - Lifestyle comparison: Kirk vs. Piker
• [11:40] - The right’s intellectual awakening
• [14:41] - Introduction to Katie Porter critiques
• [23:17] - Porter’s abortion-inflation comments
• [24:14] - “Death cult” argument
• [27:32] - Pedophilia/identity segment
• [31:02] - Perp walk, justice, Comey debate
• [39:34] - Charlie Kirk tribute and legacy
• [45:57] - Final words on Kirk’s influence

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