The Charlie Kirk Show

Episode: The Virginia Dem Who Wants Your Children Dead
Date: October 6, 2025
Host: Charlie Kirk
Guests: Molly Hemingway (Editor-in-Chief, The Federalist), Sean Davis (Co-founder, The Federalist)
Executive Producer / Co-host: Andrew Colvett
Co-host: Blake Neff

Overview: Episode Theme & Purpose

This episode tackles the controversial and incendiary topic of left-wing political violence and its increasing normalization within American society and politics. The main focus is a leaked series of text messages from Virginia Democrat Jay Jones, a candidate for Attorney General, in which he fantasizes about the murder of political opponents and their children. The episode situates this story within a wider critique of the left, especially its willingness to abandon rule of law and civility, and reactively launches into a broader reflection on martyrdom in modern America—particularly the recent assassination of Charlie Kirk (in this fictional scenario). The discussion blends mourning, policy analysis, religious inspiration, and culture war commentary.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Mourning Charlie Kirk and American Christian Martyrdom

• Guests reflect on Charlie Kirk’s legacy as a faith-driven activist.

  • Molly Hemingway and Sean Davis express ongoing shock and grief over Charlie’s death, emphasizing the ripple effects through both their own lives and the country at large.

    “We are now in the age of American martyrdom. Charlie was the first true American Christian martyr.”
    — Sean Davis (03:35)

• Rise of Christian faith in public mourning and civic action.

  • Discussion of the memorial’s impact: praise music, national reaction, and seeing politicians openly proclaiming Christian faith.
  • Emphasis on martyrdom as both religious and political, echoing early Christian persecution but now in the context of debates over issues like gender ideology.

• Charlie’s progression from campus debater to religious figure.

  • The hosts note Charlie’s deepening emphasis on his Christian faith in later years, prompting tent-revival-like campus tours.

    “His emphasis on Jesus and the word of God really grew each year... seeing the heart that he has for people when they're bringing, you know, it might be packaged in a left wing political question, but he would see that this person was in need of Jesus.”
    — Molly Hemingway (06:34)

2. The Jay Jones Scandal: Fantasizing Violence Against Political Opponents and Their Families

[Timestamp: 21:22 – 39:00]

• Leaked texts from Jay Jones (Democratic VA AG candidate) clearly state:

  • Fantasizes about shooting opponent Todd Gilbert “two bullets to the head” — more so than Hitler or Pol Pot.
  • Expounds further in texts and phone calls, wishing for the death of political opponents’ children, rationalizing that “only when people feel pain personally do they move on policy.”
  • Repeats and intensifies statements despite pushback from the recipient.

• Democratic party response:

  • Broad refusal among VA Democrats to denounce or call for Jones’s withdrawal; notable exception is Joe Scarborough.

    “Not one. Not one person... No actual [elected Democrat] has denounced Jay Jones wishing death upon children.”
    — Sean Davis (28:51)

  • Eight other Democratic committees endorse continued support for Jones; the largest city (Virginia Beach) issues a statement in his defense: “Who among us has not done something similar?”

• Hypocrisy called out:

  • Jones previously demanded resignation of a police officer for a $25 donation to Kyle Rittenhouse’s legal defense—a double standard on expressions of political support/violence.

• Jones’s legal and ethical record:

  • Recently convicted for driving 116 mph in a 70 zone; served community service at his own PAC.

• Cultural insight:

  • Segment ties Jones’s attitude to a broader left-wing tolerance (or celebration) of violence against political enemies—bringing up responses to Charlie Kirk’s death, BLM riots, and general trends of declining support for law, order, and civility.

3. Escalation of Left-Wing Political Violence & Cultural Shifts

[Timestamp: 30:53 – 39:59]

• Statistical evidence of endorsement for political violence:

  • Youth and progressives are especially prone, with recent polls showing alarming support for “violence justified to achieve political goals.”

• Shift from university radicalism to mainstream power:

  • Former repression of free speech on campuses now infects corporations, tech, and government.

• Connection to censorship & ideology:

  • “It starts with censorship, it moves to destruction of statues, and it always ends with the murder of people every time.”
    — Sean Davis (34:38)

4. Erosion of Rule of Law and Judicial Independence

[Timestamp: 39:02 – 53:00]

• Broader concern about left’s abandonment of rule of law:

  • Discussion of “lawfare” used against Trump, weaponization of state power, and apparent impunity for leftist violence.

    “You don't hear people really dealing with that or how even the Russia collusion hoax... was a way of using our justice system to go after political opponents.”
    — Molly Hemingway (39:02)

• Recent political violence against judges:

  • Citing Chuck Schumer’s threats toward Gorsuch and Kavanaugh; failed assassination of Kavanaugh and subsequent lenient sentencing for would-be killer (because of perpetrator’s gender issues); continued protests at justices’ homes, with little action from Biden DOJ.

• The normalization of threats:

  • Attempts at both-sidesing by left-wing PR flaks, e.g., trying to conflate routine political criticism with explicit threats or incitements to violence.

• Impact on judicial recruitment and independence:

  • Judges and justices’ families now threatened, which could dissuade qualified people from public service.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

“Charlie's the first true American Christian martyr... we're going to wrestle with the implications of that for decades.”
— Sean Davis (03:35)

“When people think about him as this, you know, political campus guy, I think they're missing that.”
— Molly Hemingway (06:34)

"[Jones] says, three people, two bullets. Gilbert... If you have, you know, three people, two bullets. Gilbert gets two bullets to the head over Hitler and over Pol Pot."
— Blake Neff (25:22)

“Who among us has not really called somebody?...I've never called for the assassination of my political opponents or wished death on their children ever.”
— Molly Hemingway (29:56)

“This is a party that has kind of fallen into support for left wing violence.”
— Molly Hemingway (29:58)

“It starts with censorship, it moves to destruction of statues, and it always ends with the murder of people every time.”
— Sean Davis (34:38)

“If they get power again, we're all going to gulags. Like, there will be gulags. We will be some of the first people there. They're not even bashful about saying what they believe...”
— Sean Davis (40:00)

“Can we not have unanimity about political violence? Are we really at that point where some people are like, well, you know, punch a Nazi—it’s really taken to the next level...”
— Andrew Colvett (31:44)

Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:03–03:19: Reflections on Charlie Kirk’s life mission, personal faith journey, and call to activism
• 03:20–08:58: Guests’ (Molly Hemingway & Sean Davis) emotional reflections on Charlie’s death and its meaning for the country
• 08:59–15:38: Christian mourning practices, reactions to memorial, politicians’ open professions of faith; cultural & religious implications
• 16:11–21:22: Listener emails about Charlie’s legacy and personal impact; the power of faith and testimony
• 21:22–39:00: Deep dive into Jay Jones’s violent texts, the Democratic response, and discussion of broader left-wing political violence
• 39:02–42:10: Rule of law erosion, lawfare against conservatives, lack of resistance, normalization of leftist violence
• 42:11–53:00: Threats against judges, judicial independence, DOJ inaction, and implications for American society

Closing Reflections

• Urgency to resist the normalization of political violence and left-wing disregard for rule of law
• Call for continued activism, faith, and vigilance—a rallying cry to community and grassroots involvement
• Warning that what happens in radical circles (campus, fringe activism) doesn’t stay there, but spreads to institutions of power

For further reading on these topics, the episode highlighted Molly Hemingway’s book Justice on the Kavanaugh Confirmation and the Future of the Supreme Court as an essential backgrounder.

This summary preserves the tenor of the original discussion: simultaneously mournful, militant, spiritual, and combative, in true “no-holds-barred” Charlie Kirk Show style.