The Charlie Kirk Show

Episode Title: There Is No Moral Equivalency Between Left and Right
Date: October 21, 2025
Host: Charlie Kirk (posthumous), with Andrew Colvett, Mikey McCoy
Guests: Mike Cernovich, Governor Glenn Youngkin

Episode Overview

This emotionally charged episode tackles the claim: "There Is No Moral Equivalency Between Left and Right." With Charlie Kirk recently assassinated, his Turning Point USA colleagues—including executive producer Andrew Colvett, chief of staff Mikey McCoy, and prominent conservative commentator Mike Cernovich—discuss forms of political violence, media bias, the double standards in protest culture, and the profound sense of trauma carried by those on the political right. Virginia Governor Glenn Youngkin joins to reflect on Charlie’s legacy, the rise of hostile rhetoric and action from the left, and the crucial importance of faith and youth engagement.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Unequal Realities of Political Activism

[01:26 – 07:34] Featuring Mike Cernovich, Andrew Colvett

• Contrast in Protest Treatment:

  • Mike Cernovich points out how left-wing protests take place without fear for personal safety or legal reprisal, while conservatives must constantly consider threats, venue security, and the possibility of violence or cancellation.
  • Quote:

    “We take it for granted that we live a completely different life... I want to have an event... Is the venue going to cancel? Are people going to call in threats?... That’s not normal.”
    —Mike Cernovich [01:57]

• Example of Left-wing Freedom vs. Right-wing Caution:

  • Cernovich recalls a left-aligned candidate holding a carefree scavenger hunt and notes “it would not be possible” for a conservative to do the same without disruption or aggression [02:31].

• Baked-in Trauma for Conservatives:

  • Both Colvett and McCoy reveal the everyday hypervigilance they’ve adopted, such as checking rooftops for snipers when attending events or speaking publicly after Charlie’s assassination [03:47, 11:59].
  • Quote:

    “When I step outside, I automatically check rooftops to see if there’s a sniper because... when you go to an event you ask them how good the security is... there is no moral equivalence between the left and the right when it comes to things like this.”
    —Mikey McCoy [11:59]

2. State Protection and Political Double Standards

[07:34 – 10:29] Mike Cernovich

• Selective Law Enforcement:

  • Cernovich argues that left-wing agitators can act with impunity, shielded by law enforcement indifference, while right-wingers are prosecuted vigorously for any response—citing the Proud Boys vs. Antifa street clash as a pertinent example [07:34].
  • Quote:

    “Antifa doesn’t exist without state power... The Proud Boys win and then state power comes down like a ton of bricks on the Proud Boys. And these young men go to prison in some cases for five to seven years... Antifa got charged or sent to prison again.”
    —Mike Cernovich [09:23]

• “Anarcho-Tyranny” Concept:

  • Only leftist violence is tolerated, says Cernovich, illustrating the asymmetric application of law (“anarcho-tyranny, neo-Bolshevikism”) [08:22].

3. Disavowal Rituals & Moral Equivalence Debunked

[11:59 – 20:30] McCoy, Cernovich, Colvett

• Media Rituals and Conservative Guilt:

  • Discussion centers on the left and media demanding that conservatives “disavow” questionable private chats, while ignoring direct calls for or celebrations of violence on the left.

  • Quote:

    “You guys are breeding political assassins. And on the right we have leaked group chats. You have somebody running to be the top cop in one of the biggest states… saying that he wants to see five and seven year olds die because they’re bred little fascists. There is no moral equivalent here.”
    —Mikey McCoy [12:36]

  • Cernovich: The Christian response isn't public shaming but private outreach. The "disavowal game" is a media trick and a “fake outrage” that only serves leftist goals [18:31].

  • Quote:

    “This isn’t church. … If everybody doesn’t abide by the same rules and one side says, ‘oh, we’re taking the high ground’, then you’re going to lose and you’re going to lose your country.”
    —Mike Cernovich [18:31]

4. Charlie Kirk’s Legacy and Youth Engagement

[22:12 – 29:39] Governor Glenn Youngkin, Mikey McCoy

• Charlie’s Legacy Lives On:

  • Governor Youngkin, Colvett, and McCoy emphasize the huge continued impact of Charlie Kirk, as evidenced by massive youth attendance, campus activism, and a spiritual revival among young conservatives nationwide.
    • Quote:

      “The question, who’s going to be the next Charlie Kirk? … All of you... that’s his legacy.”
      —Governor Glenn Youngkin [23:34]

• Faith and Resilience:

  • Governor Youngkin shares his faith journey, how faith shapes his leadership, and the importance of faith in continuing the movement. Praying for the community and the country is a central theme.
    • Quote:

      “It is because of the invitation to have a relationship with Jesus... And thank you, Lord, for putting my wife Suzanne in the way of my life... she introduced me to Jesus.”
      —Governor Glenn Youngkin [25:30]

5. Political Violence and Rhetoric Escalation

[29:39 – 39:32] Glenn Youngkin, McCoy, Colvett

• Virginia’s Attorney General Controversy:

  • The panel condemns candidate Jay Jones’s violent rhetoric, reading explicit text messages where Jones allegedly calls for execution and even the deaths of children. They express shock at Democrats’ refusal to denounce or demand the withdrawal of such a candidate.
  • Quote:

    “There could be no moment where we say anything other than it’s abhorrent... The fact that she can’t say that... is beyond a moment of lack of moral clarity.”
    —Governor Glenn Youngkin [31:35]

• Escalation on the Left:

  • Youngkin contends that as the Democrat Party has moved further left, rhetoric and threats have intensified, citing death threats to Republican candidates and a lack of condemnation from Democrat leaders [34:34, 38:09].

• Contrast With Right’s Nonviolent Response:

  • After Charlie’s assassination, their side responded peacefully, with prayer and worship, unlike the riots seen after other high-profile tragedies.
  • Quote:

    “When Charlie was assassinated, we peacefully gathered, worshiped for three hours... I am increasingly worried about the direction that the left is headed in.”
    —Mikey McCoy [32:58]

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• [01:57] Mike Cernovich:

  “We take it for granted that we live a completely different life... Is the venue going to cancel? Are people going to call in threats?... That’s not normal.”

• [11:59] Mikey McCoy:

  “When I step outside, I automatically check rooftops... there is no moral equivalence between the left and the right when it comes to things like this.”

• [09:23] Mike Cernovich:

  “Antifa doesn’t exist without state power... and then state power comes down like a ton of bricks on the Proud Boys.”

• [12:36] Mikey McCoy:

  “You guys are breeding political assassins... There is no moral equivalent here.”

• [18:31] Mike Cernovich:

  “This isn’t church. … If everybody doesn’t abide by the same rules... you’re going to lose your country.”

• [23:34] Governor Glenn Youngkin:

  “The question, who’s going to be the next Charlie Kirk? ...All of you. And those students, they showed up with enthusiasm. They showed up with faith, they showed up with courage.”

• [25:30] Governor Glenn Youngkin:

  “It is because of the invitation to have a relationship with Jesus... she introduced me to Jesus. And that, of course, changed me forever.”

• [31:35] Governor Glenn Youngkin:

  “There could be no moment where we say anything other than it’s abhorrent... The fact that she can’t say that... is a lack of moral clarity... defining for her own morality.”

Timestamps for Important Segments

• [01:26] – Start of panel with Mike Cernovich; discussion of protest double standards
• [07:34] – State protection, selective prosecution, and Proud Boys/Antifa case
• [11:59] – Trauma, leftist violence celebration, “no moral equivalency” debate
• [18:31] – Cernovich on the “disavowal ritual” and Christian principle
• [22:12] – Governor Glenn Youngkin joins; discussion of Charlie’s legacy and faith
• [29:39] – Condemning violent rhetoric in Virginia’s AG campaign
• [31:35] – Youngkin: “No moment we can say anything other than it’s abhorrent”
• [34:34] – Youngkin on increased leftist aggression and law enforcement preparation
• [38:09] – Refusal of Democrats to condemn extreme rhetoric/candidates

Tone & Language

The entire conversation is raw, urgent, and at times deeply personal and spiritual. The panel expresses grief, frustration, defensiveness, and resolve—moving between somber reflection, impassioned critique of perceived injustice, and affirmations of faith and community.

Summary Takeaway

This episode is a forceful rebuke of arguments for moral equivalence between the political right and left in contemporary America. Through personal testimony, high-profile examples, and pointed critique, the guests argue that conservatives face disproportionate institutional hostility and violence while the left is shielded by media and the state. The tragic loss of Charlie Kirk is reframed as a catalyst for both spiritual awakening and lasting conservative activism. The panel’s repeated assertion: American political life and the future of the country depend on recognizing these double standards and acting with clarity, courage, and faith.