The Charlie Kirk Show – THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 110 — Live at AmFest
Date: December 20, 2025
Host: Charlie Kirk (on assignment), Jack Posobiec (temporary host), with Cliff Maloney, Tyler Boyer, Mikey McCoy, Blake Neff, and Andrew Colvett
Venue: Live at AmFest
Episode Overview
This lively “Thoughtcrime” episode is a panel-format, audience Q&A at AmFest, featuring several of Charlie Kirk’s closest collaborators and friends. While Charlie Kirk himself is on assignment, the panel pays tribute to his legacy and the mission of Turning Point USA by discussing grassroots activism, faith, conservative values, culture wars, politics (with a strong America First message), and generational challenges. The show’s signature “anything goes” ethos is on full display—no topic is off-limits, from pop culture flame wars to serious debates on imperialism, criminal justice, and immigration.
Key Discussion Points and Insights
1. The Origins and Ethos of “Thoughtcrime”
Timestamps: 01:10–03:52
- “Thoughtcrime” was designed as a break from daily news, to discuss ‘the cultural things going on’ and the bigger ideas that don’t always fit into a news cycle.
- “Anything goes. No censorship. No question is denied. That is how Thoughtcrime works.” —Jack Posobiec [01:54]
- Lighthearted banter about show ‘rules’ (including “no jackets” on stage) sets a playful, irreverent tone.
2. Pop Culture, Fandom, and Identity
Star Wars vs. Lord of the Rings Debate
Timestamps: 04:48–07:32
- Audience divides on “best” Star Wars film; hosts diverge between A New Hope, Empire Strikes Back, Return of the Jedi.
- Jack Posobiec strongly criticizes modern Star Wars and “Disney adults”: “Star Wars is banned in my house.” [05:13]
- The new films are condemned as being taken over by DEI (diversity, equity, and inclusion) ideology—with specific claims about casting and messaging.
- The panel connects the “redemption arc” in Return of the Jedi to Christian themes: “It shows a biblical redemption arc…from evil to goodness.” —Jack Posobiec [06:33]
3. How Charlie Kirk Learned and Taught (Audience Question)
Timestamps: 08:37–11:05
- Charlie’s dedication to self-education: “Charlie read all the time…he would have his laptop open…arguing with ChatGPT for like five hours.” —Mikey McCoy [08:47]
- He took extensive notes and made lists: “He wrote down in lists and lists and lists…Big list person.” —Charlie Kirk [10:16]
- Reading is presented as a discipline central to activism and belief: “You can’t fake it till you make it. That’s what the left does. We have to have a true belief.” —Jack Posobiec [10:59]
4. American Imperialism, America First, and Foreign Policy
Timestamps: 12:46–16:34
- A youth in a military family asks about America’s “world police” role.
- Hosts joke about annexing parts of Mexico and propose borders in jest before turning serious:
- “When it benefits America, we need to be imperialistic. When it doesn’t, we need to get the heck out.” —Charlie Kirk [15:08]
- “My answer on all of that is America First.” —Jack Posobiec [15:18]
- Audience poll on “America First only” vs. “America First but not only” reveals a generational and philosophical split.
- Blunt assessment on Ukraine: “It is stupid for the United States of America to back a losing war and a losing proposition.” —Jack Posobiec [17:10]
5. Immigration, Identity, and Assimilation
Timestamps: 18:47–23:45
- Discussion of immigration reform, citing cultural differences and integration challenges even among European immigrants.
- Jack Posobiec: “Shut down immigration until we can figure out what the hell is going on at our borders.” [20:04]
- Claims about scams and abuse in migrant communities, especially Somalis in Minnesota, are cited as justification for strict remigration policies.
- Widespread criticism of policies and prominent Democratic figures; emphasis on “America-first immigration.”
6. Faith, Christianity in the Public Square, and American Foundations
Timestamps: 25:04–31:19
- Audience question from a Christian mother about non-Christian friends and separation of church and state.
- Tyler Boyer advocates a “welcoming community” rooted in Christian values, offering acceptance but a clear sense of American identity.
- Jack Posobiec: “If you’re gonna be a Christian in today’s America, you must be a public Christian…We have to return Christianity to the public square.” [29:48]
- The panel rebuts the notion that “separation of church and state” prevents public Christianity—arguing instead for its full public expression.
7. Challenging Topics: USS Liberty, Internal Movement Honesty
Timestamps: 31:24–34:59
- Audience asks about the 1967 USS Liberty incident (Israeli attack on U.S. ship).
- Both Jack and Mikey criticize official narratives and the conservative movement’s reluctance to tell “the whole truth.”
- Mikey: “You can say that and still be pro-Israel…Why do we have to lie about it as a movement? Just tell the truth.” [34:59]
8. Masculinity, Young Men’s and Women’s Roles, and Generational Trends
Timestamps: 35:07–42:37
- Discussion of splitting blue states to empower red state politics; advocacy for “more states, more red senators.”
- Audience questions on role models, women’s leadership, and fostering masculinity—Turning Point USA is credited with making conservatism “cool” for younger generations.
- Acknowledgement of Erica Kirk’s new prominence as a female leader: “She is literally anti-fragile…a representation of what women should strive to be.” —Mikey McCoy [33:36]; “If you want to find an Erica, you’ve got to be a Charlie, and to young women, if you want to find a Charlie, you have to be an Erica.” —Jack Posobiec [42:05]
9. Law Enforcement, the Chauvin Case, and Policing Politics
Timestamps: 43:47–50:39
- Arizona police officer and audience member raise Derek Chauvin’s trial—panel strongly asserts Chauvin is a political prisoner.
- “That is a sham. That is not justice. What was done there was a miscarriage of justice.” —Jack Posobiec [45:43]
- Conversation expands into the broader “war on police,” need for police to be vocal conservatives, and accusations against “Soros money” influencing suburban elections.
10. The Death Penalty and Christian Ethics
Timestamps: 51:03–57:39
- Audience asks: Should Christians support the death penalty?
- Panel discusses biblical justifications and distinctions between mercy for individuals and the role of the state:
- “When the state…enforces its laws, it is not acting as an individual seeking vengeance. It is enacting justice…one aspect of justice may actually have to be to use lethal force.” —Blake Neff [51:44]
- “The death penalty isn’t pro-death, it's actually pro-life because it values the life of the victim.” —Jack Posobiec summarizing Charlie Kirk [53:05]
- “We should not foist that [burden] onto the victims…that is why we have the state wielding the power that it does.” —Blake Neff [56:39]
11. Youth, Veterans, Generational Opportunity, and “The American Dream”
Timestamps: 58:46–74:46
- Veterans express frustration at lack of support; call for Turning Point Veterans Coalition to support transition and employment. “We should not have a single unemployed veteran or homeless veteran in this country.” —Jack Posobiec [62:14]
- Addressing Gen Z’s attraction to socialism/Marxism: “Young people face radical problems. Can’t buy a house, have debt, can’t afford a family…We’re turning to radical solutions.” —Mikey McCoy [68:30]
- The importance of early activism: “You have to defeat these people at the state legislature level….You gotta take out the guys that…become your school board members.” —Charlie Kirk [72:20]
12. Activism, Life Choices, and Making a Difference
Timestamps: 76:25–81:48
- Young adults ask how best to use their time for impact—panel recommends activism through Turning Point USA, ballot chasing, and involvement in faith-based or local political work.
- “Be a rebel. Start a family…There is nothing better.” —Jack Posobiec [80:41]
- In a standout audience moment, a job is offered live to a graphic designer willing to relocate for TPUSA work.
13. Political Outreach to Black and Brown Christian Communities
Timestamps: 82:34–87:56
- Audience question about connecting socially conservative but politically liberal churches/communities to the conservative movement.
- Andrew Colvett notes: “If you got 25–30% of the black vote, not to mention the Hispanic vote, you would derail the Democrats’ prospects forever.” [85:23]
- Charlie Kirk’s prescription: “Go back to church, start there…This is the moment in history right now where we could make massive gains.” [86:13]
- Emotional testimony about standing up for Kirk in church and the power of being “the difference.”
14. Language, Outreach, and Conservative Content
Timestamps: 88:34–89:52
- Debate on producing conservative content in Spanish and other languages—panel strongly supports using all means to reach and include immigrants while encouraging English proficiency.
15. Alaska, Ranked Choice Voting, and Electoral Integrity
Timestamps: 89:56–92:33
- Concern raised about Alaska trending blue due to ranked choice voting.
- “No to ranked choice voting. You need to tattoo it on yourself…They’re trying to institute it in red states like Alaska…and then you elect Democrats.” —Charlie Kirk [90:56]
16. Closing, Tribute, and Charlie’s Legacy
Timestamps: 92:33–93:54
- The panel closes by invoking Charlie Kirk’s legacy: “He’s on permanent assignment with God…And we’re going to continue this fight…Go out there and commit Thought Crime.” —Jack Posobiec [92:42]
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- “Anything goes on Thoughtcrime. No censorship. No question that is denied.” —Jack Posobiec [01:54]
- “It shows a biblical redemption arc…that’s the original story of Star Wars.” —Jack Posobiec [06:33]
- “Charlie would have his laptop open arguing with ChatGPT for five hours…‘I’m practicing for the campus tours.’” —Mikey McCoy [08:47]
- “When it benefits America, we need to be imperialistic. When it doesn’t, we need to get the heck out.” —Charlie Kirk [15:08]
- “We have to have a true belief in what we're reading, and you have to dive deep to do that.” —Jack Posobiec [11:01]
- “Shut down immigration until we can figure out what the hell is going on at our borders.” —Jack Posobiec [20:04]
- “If you’re going to be a Christian in today’s America, you must be a public Christian.” —Jack Posobiec [29:48]
- “She is literally anti-fragile…a representation of what women should strive to be.” —Mikey McCoy [33:36]
- “If you want to find an Erica, you’ve got to be a Charlie, and to young women, if you want to find a Charlie, you have to be an Erica.” —Jack Posobiec [42:05]
- “The death penalty isn’t pro-death, it’s actually pro-life because it values the life of the victim.” —Jack Posobiec, summarizing Charlie Kirk [53:05]
- “You have to defeat these people at the state legislature…if you do that, we win.” —Charlie Kirk [72:20]
- “Be a rebel. Start a family…There is nothing better.” —Jack Posobiec [80:41]
- “Go out there and commit Thought Crime.” —Jack Posobiec [92:42]
Important Segment Timestamps
| Segment | Timestamp | |--------------------------------------------------------------|------------| | Show intro, Thoughtcrime meaning | 01:10–03:52| | Star Wars/LotR/Pop culture debate | 04:48–07:32| | Charlie Kirk’s reading habits & activism | 08:37–11:05| | America First/Imperialism/Ukraine War | 12:46–18:39| | Immigration & assimilation | 18:47–23:45| | Faith, church/state, public Christianity | 25:04–31:19| | USS Liberty, internal honesty in conservatism | 31:24–34:59| | Masculinity, women’s roles, generation change | 35:07–42:37| | Police, Chauvin case, Soros DA agenda | 43:47–50:39| | Death penalty, justice, Christian worldview | 51:03–57:39| | Veterans, Gen Z & American dream, grassroots activism | 58:46–74:46| | Youth, family, activism careers, live job offer | 76:25–81:48| | Outreach to black & brown Christian conservatives | 82:34–87:56| | Language & content outreach | 88:34–89:52| | Alaska/ranked choice voting | 89:56–92:33| | Closing tribute to Charlie Kirk | 92:33–93:54|
Episode Summary
This “Thoughtcrime” episode at AmFest captures the spirit of Charlie Kirk’s movement: brash, energetic, and unapologetically conservative. Audience questions drive a wide-ranging discussion spanning pop culture, immigration, foreign policy, policing, faith in public life, generational opportunity, and activism strategy. The hosts blend humor, candid admissions, and pointed political analysis, always returning to the themes of faith, family, and grassroots empowerment.
Whether you’re a long-time member of the movement or a new listener, this episode is packed with the panel’s signature energy, peppered with insight and memorable zingers—and closed with a heartfelt homage to Charlie Kirk’s enduring legacy.