THOUGHTCRIME Ep, 112—NYC Dinks? Greenland Monopoly? Salary Cap?

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Charlie Kirk Show – THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 112

Episode Title: NYC Dinks? Greenland Monopoly? Salary Cap?
Date: January 24, 2026
Host: Charlie Kirk (plus regular Thoughtcrime panel: Jack, Blake, Andrew, Tyler, et al.)

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Overview

In this wide-ranging episode of the “Thoughtcrime” roundtable on The Charlie Kirk Show, the hosts dissect current cultural and economic trends with their signature irreverent conservatism. Hot topics include Jack’s return from the World Economic Forum in Davos (with a detour over Greenland), the cultural critique of DINKs and HENRYs in major U.S. cities, a comical exploration of Monopoly game pieces and economic metaphors, and a spirited debate over salary caps in professional sports. Interwoven throughout are anecdotes, pop culture references, memes, and plenty of pointed satire about contemporary American life.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Live from Davos and Over Greenland

• Jack’s Travelogue ([01:24]–[08:46])
  • Jack returns from Davos and recounts both his trip and his surprise glimpse of Greenland from the plane.
  • He describes Davos as overrated:
    Jack: “Davos is kind of a dump... Everyone thinks Davos is some high-end luxury town... it's super dumpy...” ([03:12])
  • Greenland speculation leads to jokes about becoming governor and protecting its “borders” from Somali pirates and scammers.

Memorable Moment

“I want to be the first governor of Greenland ... Under my administration, not one Somali scammer sets foot on any foot of snow, not even one foot of snow will be graced by a Somalian scammer's foot.”
— Jack ([08:10])

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2. DINKs, HENRYs, and the Death of Family Ambition

• Defining Terms:

  • DINK = Dual Income, No Kids
  • HENRY = High Earner, Not Rich Yet
  • FIRE = Financial Independence, Retire Early ([09:03]–[16:28])

• NYC Reddit Example

  • The panel reviews a viral Reddit post from a DINK couple making $920,000/yr but feeling unable to afford children in New York City while staying on the FIRE track ([12:07]).
  • Their discretionary spending includes $32k/year on dining out and $66k on travel.

Panel’s Critique

• Andrew comments on generational value decay:
  “It’s fundamentally insane to me that you would reject kids for that reason ... it’s the way values have evolved, where people just prioritize these retirement plans.” ([16:23])
• Jack explains “froaldrift” — upper-class adoption and THEN rejection of working-class trends, noting that truly rich families still have lots of kids ([31:38]).

Notable Quote

“You don’t need that much money to have children ... the expectation is your lifestyle has to be so high ... you spend all that money, and you don’t remember any of it.”
— Andrew ([30:58])

Pop Culture Tie-In

• Allusion to the movie “Idiocracy” and its commentary on who has kids and why ([17:37]–[22:07]).

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3. Culture and Markets: Are Prices Designed to Suppress Families?

• Dining Out and Urban Living
  • The group debates whether high urban costs are intentionally designed to discourage family formation ([26:17]).
  • Fast food and mainstream restaurant chains have shifted markets away from catering to big families, which is tied to “intentionality” by big corporations ([27:43]).
• Sociological Changes
  • Car sizes, tiny houses, and urban living trends are seen as part of the same phenomenon to discourage traditional family life ([28:14]–[29:07]).
  • Quick aside into “Agenda 21” and conspiracy-flavored observations about social engineering.

Notable Quote

“Restaurants are no longer designed for families. America in the 80s and 90s were like, ‘hey, bring your whole family to McDonald's’. Now? Not so much.”
— Tyler ([27:16])

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4. Monopoly, Inflation, and Economic Parables

• Game Pieces and House Rules
  • The panel goes deep on different Monopoly tokens over the decades—discussing everything from the thimble, iron, and dog, to new additions like the penguin and T-Rex ([34:32]–[42:51]).
  • They joke about the game's expansion packs (“Free Parking” and “Jail”), and how “house rules” (like putting cash in the middle) ruin the economic metaphor.
• Monetary Metaphor
  • Jack: “When you inject more money into the system, that inflates everything ... people don’t understand inflation because they’ve been playing Monopoly wrong.” ([43:42])
• Why Millennials Are Socialists
  • The hosts muse that playing Monopoly with a “winner-takes-all” mentality might be why young people misunderstand economics ([45:47]).

Notable Quote

“You need to build new housing. What if the reason we have so many socialists is they literally think in terms of Monopoly economics?”
— Charlie ([45:47])

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5. Salary Caps, Market “Villains,” and American Sports

• MLB’s Dodgers & Revenue Inequality ([46:24]–[57:09])
  • Spirited debate on Dodgers' TV revenue advantage and spending spree.
  • The virtue—or vice—of having 'villains' (dominant, rich teams) in sports as a narrative driver ([53:09]).
  • Comparison of MLB to NFL/NBA and how strict salary caps affect competitiveness.
  • Jack floats a tongue-in-cheek conspiracy about LA sports teams being set up for championship runs.

Notable Quote

“This is why you need a salary cap. The NFL actually figured it out ... Kansas City is not a major market but became a huge deal.”
— Blake ([55:00])

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6. NFL Halftime, Culture Wars, and the “All-American Halftime Show”

• The group references the coming Super Bowl and the controversy around Bad Bunny being chosen as halftime performer ([60:21]).
• Teases Turning Point USA’s “All American Halftime Show” and hints at behind-the-scenes resistance from NFL-related entities ([62:18]).

Notable Quote

“Don’t be Bad Bunny. Don’t be an anti-American. Instead go out there and commit more thought crime.”
— Jack ([63:18])

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Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

• On Davos:

  “Everyone thinks Davos is some high-end luxury town... it's super dumpy.”
  — Jack ([03:12])

• On DINKs/HENRYs:

  “They make over $900,000 ... and believe they can't afford kids. That is value decay.”
  — D, summarizing the Reddit thread ([12:07])

• On Monopoly Lessons:

  “Stop the house rules. ... You’ve been playing Monopoly wrong your entire lives, you fools.”
  — Jack ([43:42])

• On Sports and Salary Caps:

  “The NFL is more exciting because it has a strict salary cap. If baseball had a strict salary…”
  — D ([59:23])

• On Media and Narrative:

  “It is good for baseball to have a villain… It’s good for the game for everybody to hate the Dodgers and bring it on.”
  — Charlie ([56:55])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Jack’s Davos/Greenland Recap: [01:24]–[08:46]
• DINK & HENRY Reddit Debate: [09:03]–[16:28], [12:07]
• Dining Out & Family Suppression: [26:17]–[29:07]
• Monopoly, Inflation & Board Games: [34:32]–[46:14]
• MLB, Salary Caps & Market Dynamics: [46:24]–[57:09], [55:00]
• NFL, Super Bowl & Conservative Halftime: [60:21]–[63:18]

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Tone, Style, and Final Thoughts

The episode is a mix of satirical cultural commentary and economic analysis, heavy on inside jokes, pop culture, and recurring jabs at elite urban sensibilities. The hosts combine genuine concern over declining family values and market manipulation with playful, conspiratorial banter. Despite the comedic tone, issues like family formation costs, youth economic malaise, and the structure of American entertainment and sports are dissected in-depth, making for a lively and revealing listen for anyone interested in today’s culture wars.

Closing Rally:
“Don’t be Bad Bunny. Don’t be an anti-American. Instead go out there and commit more thought crime.” – Jack ([63:18])

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Note: All ad reads, intros, and outros were omitted per instructions.

Transcript

[A]

My name is Charlie Kirk. I run the largest pro American student organization in the country, fighting for the future of our republic. My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth. If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're gonna end up miserable. But if the most important thing is doing good, you will end up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody. You gotta stop sending your kids to college. You should get married as young as possible and have as many kids as possible. Go start a Turning Point USA College chapter. Go start a Turning Point USA High School chapter. Go find out how your church can get involved. Sign up and become an activist. I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade. Most important decision I ever made in my life. And I encourage you to do the same. Here I am, Lord.

[B]

Use me.

[A]

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[C]

All right, welcome to Thought Crime. Thought Crime Thursday. I'm taking us in today, which is unusual because Jack is in transit. He's been in Davos covering the World Economic Forum. Jack, can you hear us?

[B]

Yeah, I'm actually here in studio.

[C]

Oh, he made it back.

[D]

He did. Holy cow. He made it.

[C]

See, this was a big question we had. Was Jack gonna make it?

[B]

Can you guys not see me? Like, I'm literally on a camera?

[C]

No, I can't.

[B]

We have these. We have this technology. Well, and they came to me for like 30 minutes.

[C]

They came to me. Jack, which I thought was clue for, you know, Jack's not with us.

[D]

I'm, I'm really sad we didn't have Jack on. On phone though, because we actually whipped up a calling graphic for him. Yeah, we had, we took his events photo and we fed it through the Chad filter on Snapchat.

[C]

We just see it anyways and.

[D]

Oh yeah. Do we have that loaded up? We should, we should load it up anyway because it's great.

[C]

We're going to make you look awesome. Jack, I just want you to know we had your back.

[B]

What do you mean?

[D]

Throw that up as soon as you can. There we are. There we are.

[E]

That's the. That's the Greenland Gigachad, right?

[D]

Greenland Gigachad, sure.

[B]

Wait, I thought you said you guys were going to put a filter on this. Where's the filter? That's just a normal.

[E]

You know how many people after your post asked me if like, you were in Greenland? Like, I got so many questions. You. You had to have got asked like a million times.

[B]

No, so actually, wait a minute, I got to send you. I have to send this in the chat because so I literally, people are like, wait, how are you back in studio? So I flew from Davos all the way back. I'm back in studio right now. But check this out. I flew over Greenland today and I actually got to, like, see parts of Greenland, so. Oh, yeah, Meta. That's Caroline Levitt and Sonny Joy Nelson right outside. Like, literally right outside the President. And that's, we know, with the Alps in the background there. And that's, that's the entrance to the World Economic Forum. Davos is kind of a dump, by the way. It's like one of the worst cities in the world, just in terms of a city. Like, you'd never want to go there for tourism. It's, there's, I suppose the skiing is like, okay, but it's not even really good for, like, you know, really.

[D]

What makes it so bad? It can't even be that big. It's only a few thousand people, right?

[E]

What's the equivalent of Davos in America?

[B]

It's literally, it's, it's a dump. And I remember when I, when I went there four years ago when, when I got detained for, when I was there with Turning Point and we called into the Charlie Kirk Show, I remember saying the same thing. Like, everyone thinks Davos is some, like, high end luxury town and. No, it's not. It's like super dumpy. It's like really nothing to write home about. Again, the view is amazing. Like, there's no question about that. It's the Alps. It's, it's literally one of the most gorgeous places in the world. Of course, no question. But the city itself just, it's, it's run down. It's kind of, it's kind of dingy. There aren't really any, like, luxury hotels.

[D]

There's.

[B]

There's like one out. You have to drive where. So, like, where Trump was staying was all the way outside of town just because that's the only place you could go to get something like halfway decent.

[E]

So what's the equivalent in America of Davos?

[B]

Oh, gosh. Equivalent.

[E]

Burlington.

[B]

Oh, man. See, See, if I were to say that. See, now, now I'm going to like, Now I'm going to like, offend somebody or it's basically like. Okay, all right. Put it this way. Imagine. Picture this beach resort. All right, but now, beach resort in New Jersey.

[E]

Yeah, I've seen this.

[B]

Yeah, I've seen this.

[E]

I'm not gonna say anything because I. I feel like the hatred, the amount of hatred that I would get. Do not say it.

[C]

Oh, what's that one, by the way?

[B]

I don't mean jerseys who are towns. Because.

[C]

Because.

[B]

Because there's some decent beach towns, like Cape May, for example. Tyler, I know you're fan.

[E]

You cannot trash Jersey Shore anything. You will have the wrath of a Taylor Swift.

[B]

Lawn is very nice. We're actually going to be talking about Atlantic City in an update. Myrtle Beach.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

Myrtle beach is like, I love. No, it's MAGA country, I will tell you.

[B]

Oh, wait, wait.

[C]

Wants nothing to do with Myrtle Beach.

[B]

Example.

[C]

Which one?

[B]

Just all awful. Just like Ocean City, Maryland. Just terrible. Just absolutely terrible. Carnival cruise of beach towns.

[E]

Is it like Atlantic City? Maybe?

[B]

You could say it's like Atlantic City now, basically. I mean, as compared to like. Like I. Growing up, we used to always go to Atlantic. I remember Atlantic City when it was in its heyday. I. When I was a kid, we stayed actually like one night at the Trump Taj Mahal because, like, my dad had this like, conference in town and I remember bringing like my Sega Genesis. I was all excited so I could play. Play Sonic in the hotel room. But yes, we actually stayed at the Trump and. And it was like, the whole town was just incredible. And it ain't like that no more. It's. It's so run down and like half the. Half the clientele are like, are Chinese. Like, they're.

[C]

Excuse me.

[B]

You know, so they have these huge, like, Chinese sections all over, like the Atlantic City casinos. I forget why I was there, you know, a couple years ago, and I was like, this whole town is just trash because basically, like, FanDuel came in and, you know, all Pennsylvania opened up gambling and table games and. And slots. So it just. It didn't really have the allure. Right. I think we did a segment on this a couple of shows ago. We were talking about how, you know, gambling used to be sort of this thing where it was like only Vegas or only AC and now it's like you just do it everywhere.

[C]

Hey, don't forget about Reno.

[B]

What is it, like the biggest north right now? Fastest growing industry or something?

[C]

I think it's really bad. It's a really bad development that we have gambling all over the country. Blake probably has some stats on hand, like, for it, but it's just a. At least it was isolated and you could get away from it and people with real bad problems could. With. They had to go out of their way in order to indulge those problems. And now it's just everywhere and it's ruining a lot of young men's lives. It's very sad, Very sad state.

[B]

But I'm sending in this footage because I actually. For the. I don't think I've ever actually seen Greenland before.

[E]

And.

[B]

And I. I saw Greenland. There it is.

[C]

Here we go. We'll send it over.

[B]

So we'll have them pull it up. It was gorgeous. The mountains were really cool to see. When people don't. People don't realize, by the way, that there's a funny, like, climate change thing you can talk about because people are like, well, it's all ice. Why is it all ice? Yes, but because when the Vikings found it, it was so green that you could actually, like, there were parts of southern Greenland. They found it. What? It was like 900 A.D. basically, Leif Ericsson.

[A]

And all.

[B]

So you could.

[C]

We're sneezing. Sorry, Jay.

[D]

Yeah, sorry about that. No, no, I mean, I don't think it was quite like that. I think they named it Greenland because it was a scam and they wanted to get people to move there from Iceland. So it sounded better.

[B]

No, you could actually farm. You can look it up.

[E]

You could.

[D]

You could. It was. You could farm there.

[B]

But it wasn't great farming. They had sheep. They had all that up right up until about the 1400s. And then there was what's called the Little Ice Age came about. It just wiped that all out.

[C]

Well, and then recently, the sea lanes have opened back up around the ice sheet. So it is kind of an admission that there has been, you know, ice that's melting. Is that you? This is you?

[B]

This. Yeah, this is my footage. It's sideways for some reason, but. But yeah, that. That's me filming that out of the plane today, looking at. At Greenland right there, surveying my. So I'm. I announced my candidacy for. I want to be the first governor of Greenland. I've got the map there on the. On the back of the. Of the chair for. As proof. And so I'm announcing my candidacy for the governor of Greenland. I would make an governor of Greenland. I know all about protecting borders. And look, these are going to be new borders that need to be protected. From who? Somalian pirates and Somalian scammers. Under my administration, I will make sure that not one Somali scammer sets foot on any. Any foot of snow, not even one foot of snow will be graced by a Somalian scammer's foot. That is my promise to the Great people of Greenland, I would vote for you.

[C]

Drag. I would.

[B]

There you go. I would vote for you.

[E]

Let's go.

[C]

Absolutely. Shall we get into it?

[D]

Yes.

[B]

All right.

[D]

We have a very important topic that we need to jump into immediately. And it's. It's one that I can know Charlie would have loved a lot. And I'm very sad we can't hear how he would react to this because we need to talk about the Dinks and the Henry's.

[C]

Okay, define our terms.

[D]

All right, so a dink who? A dink is dual income, no kids.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[D]

A large number of annoying upper middle class professionals on the east and sometimes west coast.

[C]

Lots of gays.

[D]

Lots of gays. Lots of gay men with straight women. Lots of. Just lots of.

[B]

The first place I ever heard dink was, it was when I lived in China. Actually, that was a huge thing in China when I was there.

[C]

Oh, I thought you were making fun of their language. Okay, keep going.

[D]

Oh, and then. So lots of Dinks.

[B]

No, no.

[D]

And even in the fairly odd parents, if your kids ever watch that or something, the next door neighbors that his dad is envious of are called the Dinkelbergs and they don't have kids and they always have more stuff than his family. That's probably reference. Anyway, Dinks. And then we're talking about Henry.

[E]

Wait, wasn't the Dink also the name of the neighbors? And. And Doug.

[C]

Remember Doug?

[B]

I think you're right, actually.

[D]

Oh, they might have been. Man, that's like ancient history.

[E]

Wait, the Dinks fell out and they don't have kids?

[F]

I've never even heard of that.

[B]

There was also someone look into that.

[D]

Someone look at that.

[C]

Gen Z.

[D]

So we have Henry's, which means high earner, not rich yet. And that is a term. We have all these fun acronyms and they're coming from another acronym, the FIRE community. Do you guys know about fire? So FIRE is financially independent. Retire early. It's people whose lives revolve around trying to save money as much as possible so they can quit their jobs instead of the normal go work till you're 65 or work forever or whatever. Charlie, as we know, was not a fan of the concept of retirement. They want to retire ASAP. They want to try to hoard money, retire at 35, and then live off of whatever they've saved from that point on, either through passive income or just not spending money. And it leads to a lot of very entertaining content. And so this one, this one went viral. This was on Reddit. They are. They're all congregating on a Reddit. Not, not a good sign. We need to talk about it and oh, we easily could, but we need to talk about this thread that happened the other day and it was on the Henry Finance subreddit and they have a whole subreddit. Oh they do. Oh, they have many subreddits. And so the Henry Finance thread is how do Henry's afford to start a family New York City. So let's just read it here. Happy 2026. We are a 37 year old man and a 28 year old woman dink couple in New York City interested in starting a family but feel we don't have any good options for how to proceed. I'm interested in what other Henry's think about starting a family in a VH Cole vehicle. I don't know. Very high cost of living city while staying on the fire track. Or maybe giving up on fire to have kids. Any advice would be appreciated.

[C]

So this is a family giving up or delaying.

[D]

They're worried. They're worried that they might just have to give up on kids or give up on financial independence because it's just too expensive. Can we guess what their income is that makes them concerned that they can't save any money while having kids in need?

[C]

Well, I know the answer already.

[D]

Well, does anyone else not see it? Do you have a guess, Tyler?

[E]

Hmm, I don't have a guess.

[D]

All right, well the answer is they make over $900,000.

[E]

Guacamole.

[D]

So they. Person one is a senior or something in big tech. He makes 420,000. The second person is an associate at a D tier investment bank. Not a prestigious investment bank, lower tier only makes $340,000. Basically starvation wages.

[C]

Described as his wife as being part of a D tier.

[D]

Well, he only says person one and person two. I'm just sexistly sexistly assuming that she was and maybe, you know, I could make a lot of jokes here, but I won't. Anyway, so with some other investments they have, they make over $920,000 a year. But they're all. Their reliable income is only 700,000. Some of that is not. Is a little more tenuous. So $700,000 a year. And so he's thinking how can we afford a family? And he lays out their expenses to make it clear how much. It would be a struggle to add a child to this. So they have $113,000 in non discretionary spending. This is 97,000 a year on rent, 7,000 on groceries, 6,000 on bills and 2,000 on riding the New York subway.

[C]

Wait, how much?

[D]

2,000 on transit. On transit, he says. And then they have $173,000 in discretionary spending. This is their optional spending. Let's lay it out here. We have $32,000 a year on dining out. We have $20,000 a year on entertainment. We have $12,000 a year on personal care. We have $42,000 a year on shopping, and we have, wait for it, $66,000 a year on travel. And I read that, and all I could think of is I think I could travel full time and I could not spend $66,000 a year. Like, I don't think that that does not match my daily spend while traveling.

[C]

Blake would just sleep on, like sidewalks and things like that.

[D]

No, you could just stay in like a cheap Airbnb. These things are not expensive.

[C]

Or like hostels. When I was broke and traveling to college, I stayed at hostels.

[D]

Even going to. Like, when I was in Italy in October, my friend and I were booking rooms, like only one night in advance and it was like under €100 a night.

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[C]

Yeah, no, I mean, listen, I find this interesting. Actually, the most interesting part about their question is they are wondering if they should abandon fire, which again, define the acronym.

[D]

It's Henry High income, high earning.

[C]

Fire.

[D]

Fire is financial independence. Retire early.

[C]

Retire early. So their whole value prop is based around this idea. I want to quit my job as early as possible and just retire. So they are willing to even ask the question of whether or not they had. They should have kids because this will screw up their fire plants.

[D]

Yes.

[C]

So there's obviously an entire fire community that's highly developed, that's highly ideological, and this is what their big impediment is. Did we look at any of the answers? Yeah, I just. It's. It's funny and striking to me because I've never even asked this question before. Like, I've never even wondered, should I have kids or not have kids because I want to retire.

[D]

Yeah, it's a huge value decay. And I mean, I guess I don't have kids yet, but it.

[C]

Yeah, but you want.

[D]

Fundamentally insane to me that you would reject kids for that reason. But it is. That is the way values have evolved, where people, they just prioritize these retirement plans. I think this is even the idea of, like, the kind of retire early as your main goal in life. I understand why people do that. It does point towards people have jobs that they feel don't give them any meaning and they really hate doing them. And that can be a product of work itself. Like, a lot of office jobs are terrible. But Charlie, as we said, Charlie, really believed that retirement should not be something you aspire to. You might not always have the same role. Like, once you get old, maybe you should step away from running a big organization and focus on philanthropy or community engagement. You know, take a job at your church and, you know, dial things back.

[E]

Teaching, I think. I think retirees should all teach. I think we're screwing up everything in America. We should have people that have done something and they're on the precipice of retiring. We should be encouraging them and facilitating them.

[D]

A lot of people do do that. I know there are people.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Lawyers. They've stepped away and they become a.

[E]

Lot of people, especially at community college level. A lot of community college professors are that way.

[C]

But we should do that more in high school. Substitute teaching at high school level. And I was like. Which to me sounds terrible, but I mean, there you go. By the way, this is so what I thought of instantly. And Angelo actually flagged this for me. Jack, do you know Idiocracy? Have you ever heard of that in the movie? Yeah. Okay, so you do.

[B]

Yeah, I like money.

[C]

So funny. So, Fozzie Foz, flag this for me.

[B]

Because finally, I Just told them that I could talk to plants. And the plants told me that they didn't want rondo, they wanted water.

[C]

See, I've never seen the movie, so I'm not even.

[D]

We actually have a clip from it.

[C]

No, that's what I'm segueing to. My first thought was this is really insulting because like four. Four people, four families to an apartment. They'll just completely, you know, have eight kids each and living.

[F]

You're Mexican.

[C]

I'm quarter Mexican. It's true.

[B]

Oh yeah, that kid.

[D]

Yeah, he was one. You were soliciting that.

[B]

In all seriousness, when I was in Davos, they had Javier from Rav Espanol. So you guys know that that rap Espanol is kicking off now. Javier was like. Javier was like, Jack, you have to learn some. You have to learn some Spanish. And I was like, well, on thar crime, you know, over on Charlie Kirk show we got the Mexican co host. So you know who does speak some. He's pretty, pretty handy with it. With the Espanol. Yeah.

[D]

America.

[B]

I don't.

[D]

I don't know.

[E]

I don't know.

[B]

Mexico.

[D]

I don't know how to speak Mexico. We're taking.

[E]

We've taken Andrew down to the. The border and he's negotiating peace deals.

[C]

With cartel to, you know, because see, Andrew gets Andrew.

[B]

Andrew always goes so hard on the border because. Because deep down he's kind of like conflicted.

[C]

He's like.

[B]

He's like, hey, maybe, maybe just a few come across. Come on.

[E]

It's okay.

[C]

Just one or two ninis and okay.

[D]

My AI told me that a literal translation would be La VOZ de la America.

[C]

Real. Oh, real Americans.

[B]

We always have to check Andrew's loyalty to America. I'm just saying he's a. He's a.

[C]

No, I passed. I passed it. I passed. The. What is it? The totem, right? The. The. Who won the battle?

[B]

The Alamo.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

[B]

Make sure that it's. That it's in good standing.

[C]

Oh, man. You know, it's funny. I am like siemporiento Americano. Like I'm 100%. I mean, I am about as American as it comes because even my Mexican compensating.

[B]

He's compensating Mexican.

[C]

I didn't. He didn't even admit that we were Mexican. And we had to go like do23andMe to figure it out anyway.

[D]

I had.

[C]

He was my grandpa. That was 100. Mexican was racist against Mexico.

[D]

And another good test besides the Alamo thing is just like how much do.

[B]

You relate to the Mexican?

[D]

How much do you relate to British? Like British history as like your ancestors. I was actually in a discussion with some Brits because I'm much more German heritage than British Isles. But like I care much more about the English. English history. I love to read about English Civil War, the kings, all of that. And I don't know nearly as much German history.

[C]

What happened in 1066?

[D]

10 6, that's easy. Ask me what happened any other year. Come on.

[F]

That's Blake's sign. He doesn't know.

[D]

No, no, it's the Battle of Hastings.

[B]

Everybody knows.

[D]

Do you want me to go on about this?

[C]

I have to play idiocracy. This case study. This is the difference between Henry's and Dinks and like Mexicans, which I will claim proudly. 426.

[D]

Having kids is such an important decision. This is the couple in New York. It's not something you want to rush into, obviously.

[E]

No way.

[C]

Oh, I'm pregnant again.

[E]

I got too many damn kids.

[B]

Thought you was on the pill or some.

[D]

Hell no.

[C]

Must have been thinking of Britney. Britney?

[B]

No, you.

[D]

There's no way we could have a child now.

[B]

Not with the market.

[D]

They only make a million dollars a year.

[E]

That just wouldn't make any sense.

[B]

Come on over here. He don't care about you. Yeah, well, there must be something he likes over here.

[C]

Not to me, baby. It wasn't me.

[B]

It wasn't me. Well, we finally decided to have children and I'm not pointing fingers, but it's not going well.

[E]

And this is helping?

[D]

I'm just saying that before I have.

[B]

In vitro, maybe you should be willing to.

[D]

It's always me, right?

[C]

Well, it's not my sperm count.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah, I'm gonna on y'. All. That's my boy.

[B]

That's my boy.

[D]

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[C]

Your hands off my junk.

[B]

Unfortunately, Trevor passed away from a heart attack attack while to produce sperm for artificial insemination.

[D]

But I have some eggs frozen, so.

[B]

Just as soon as the right guy comes along, you know. And so it went for generations. Although few, if any, seem to notice.

[D]

But yeah, it's getting back.

[C]

That is My. The hardy Mexican people know how to procreate.

[D]

You know, the funny thing is, if.

[B]

You sneeze on a Mexican girl, they can get pregnant.

[D]

One of my friends who is, has been an New Yorker of upper, you know, upper middle class professional status, argued that $32,000 a year on dining out was a reasonable amount.

[C]

Was a reasonable.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, like, but it was high, but like not, not absurd. And we were, we were doing the math on this. So two people, 16,000 a year, that's like, you know, a mere $300 a person if you're going on a date night once a week. Or, or it could be raisinvolt and we could have that to $150 a person. But then you're racking up 150 per person on other stuff throughout the week. So like a $30 meal, they're traveling five other times a week.

[C]

They're traveling a lot.

[D]

They are. And that seems to count separately from dining out.

[C]

I was going to say does that.

[E]

I will, I will tell you that. I mean, people who are in, especially the city, in like drinking culture and things like that, there have been people that have said that. I mean, they save like 20 grand a year and just like, just by stopping drinking. Yeah, no, it's, it's genuine, like going out, like, it's a real part drinks when you go out, like, look at the menu, it's 20 bucks. Plus.

[D]

It's a real part of like the millennial malaise, the Gen Z Malays, where they say, you know, they can never get ahead, they're always behind. And I do think some of it is, it's very easy to slip into spending too much money on that sort of thing. And you can hear them talk and they'll just say, like, I'm already behind on student loans or something. And so $50 on this once a week, it just feels meaningless. Yet it does, it does really add up.

[C]

It's interesting that people I think that are middle income earners, right. They're sort of middle, middle of the road, they do feel entitled to a lifestyle that is much higher than them, which is. Previous generations wouldn't necessarily feel entitled to that. What about Gen Z? Are you guys just as bad as Millennials?

[F]

No. They spend so much, especially Gen Z girls, like spend an insane amount on going out.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

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[E]

No, it's, I mean, but you think about it today like, I mean prices over the, during bad inflation went up significantly. Like even going to dinner now like you go to dinner.

[C]

Like fascinating.

[E]

And this, and this is, it's I, and I think that there's actually an undercurrent of inflating some of these prices that that's intentional to suppress family growth. I really do. Because like people go out. I mean, I'm just gonna tell you, like you go out and you're a 20 something year old and you're, you're getting ready to have a family and you go out and it's like you and your girlfriend, you and your wife and you spend two like 200 on a dinner. Like that's, there's nothing that's more mentally destructive, I think for a young man.

[C]

Yeah, but you kind of insinuated that it was intentional to like stop family for formation. But yeah, I actually think the mental, the market if, how expensive it is to go out and eat, it does block.

[E]

That's why the market's changed. Right?

[F]

Like what bnp.

[B]

You know what though? I could. Markets change.

[E]

Like the market's not directed at families. It's, it's like, that's what I'm saying. Restaurants are directed not like attracting big families.

[C]

Right.

[E]

Like they did like America in the 80s and 90s even were like, hey, bring your whole family to McDonald's play.

[D]

Places and all those.

[B]

Bring your whole family to Pizza Hut.

[E]

That's what I'm saying.

[D]

Pizza Hut.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Pizza Hut.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean all of that was McDonald's play places. McDonald's play place nationalism, Pizza Hut nationalism. Restaurants that actually have a children's section.

[C]

Lobster.

[E]

There's intentionality, there's, there's intentionality in all these mega corporations. That are owned by, like, Bain and Bain Capital and all these different groups that now do not direct towards families. Now they're directing towards small groups.

[B]

I think we're in car size. Tyler, do you remember when they. When they started forcing everyone to, like, they were trying to get everyone to buy those, like, tiny cars. They're like, oh, it's. It's only got two seats. It's. It's all you need, really, for getting around the big city. And he only got two seats and, like, no trunk.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

The Yaris, remember, was like, get in my Yaris. My yard. My yard.

[C]

The men who drove only had two seats and zero balls. Anyways.

[B]

Yeah. And it was like.

[D]

I remember.

[B]

No, I had that exact same thought that Tyler was just mentioning when. When they. When they introduced those things. The very. I don't even know what year that was. Maybe like 2005. I remember thinking, like, how can you have a family if you have one of these? Yeah, this doesn't make any sense.

[C]

I think Blake's right. I think we have it.

[B]

Oh, they don't want people to have that one.

[C]

No, we have it reversed.

[E]

No, I think it's. Have you studied Agenda 21?

[D]

I don't think Agenda 21. No.

[B]

I'm totally with Tyler now.

[C]

We kids and they adapted to the market.

[E]

He was just a Davos.

[B]

Because I had the same thought. No, I had the exact same thought about the cars. I had the exact same thought.

[C]

And tiny houses. No, the market.

[B]

Who is pushing this? And. And then. And now, like, the YouTube algorithm just serves everything to you.

[D]

That.

[C]

That one. Remember?

[B]

And that's. That's what Trump talked about at Davos. Right. Because when he went up to Davos and was talking about the. When, you know, certain people got to be in the room, that he was, you know, talking about homeownership and he was. That he was doing that to repudiate the whole. You will own nothing and you'll be happy. He's like, I want young people to own a home. I want young people to be homeowners. We are going to make that happen in the United States. And personally, like, like, you know, not that I'm one. I'm going to give President United States notes, but I would have loved to see another line in there like, like, and you know something, it's ownership and owning things and building things that actually give you meaning. And it's meaning that gives you happiness, not you'll own nothing.

[D]

We have a very important development.

[B]

Aren't happy Dinks are not dinks. Yeah.

[D]

Dinks are miserable. It's not. It's not good news. We have a very important breakthrough. Someone has pointed out. Engels nest has pointed out that Andrew has a jacket on and thought crime is a no jacket zone. Take it off.

[C]

Wait, hold on.

[D]

Take it off.

[B]

He's been doing it for like two weeks now.

[F]

Oh no.

[E]

This is called self policing.

[B]

I'm sorry. It's not as much as Mexico.

[C]

I love it. I don't. I only wear a jacket because Charlie wore a jacket. No, he didn't wear a jacket on this.

[D]

Don't ask.

[B]

No sir.

[D]

Former studio Ask for God to make you a stronger man.

[F]

Like where'd your blanket go from the other day?

[D]

I don't know.

[F]

He's wearing a polka dot.

[D]

This isn't a pretty gay looking.

[C]

Yeah, that was a pretty good.

[B]

Didn't MG walk to.

[E]

Yeah, I'm actually in my airplane now.

[D]

Basically like a Snuggie. And people aren't dressing right on airplanes.

[C]

That's a whole other thing.

[D]

Yeah, that's a. That's it. We'll have to do that another week. What it's appropriate to wear on airplane.

[B]

This is what I wore on the airplane.

[D]

We want to get to another topic before I think we can agree the dinks are out of control. This will be. We should keep hitting that in the weeks.

[C]

I just think it's so fascinating and I think there's something really deep there that we're missing about the fact that the more money you have, the way you approach child rearing and begetting children and procreation, like it's really, really depressing actually because you don't need that much money to have children. You can actually do it. You can actually do it. But white middle class, dinks and this sort of thing, it doesn't even have to be white middle class. But the expectation is that your lifestyle has to be so high and then you get to the end of your life, you spend all that money. You probably didn't fire, retire early anyways. You probably had to work longer and you don't remember any of it. You don't remember those stupid little trips. Did you know what this dialogue.

[B]

This is an example, actually. I actually have a way to explain this. This is an example of pro drift. Blake, I think. Did we do an episode about probably.

[D]

I think we did, yeah.

[B]

So Froaldrift is this idea that like certain things kind of like come up from the proletariat class, like the working class, and then they go up, but then like the upper Classes, like maybe mess around with it for a little bit, but eventually eschew it and go back to traditional ways. So you're right, Andrew, to say that it's the. Henry's right. This is like upper middle class. But if you get to the actual rich, they don't live like this.

[C]

No, they're having babies at all.

[B]

They're actually very conservative, like in the way they live.

[C]

Well, in their. By the way, that's why we live. Yeah, that's why we've seen. Sorry to cut you off, Jack. I didn't mean to talk over you. But that's why when you get it to the really, really rich people, they're having a ton of kids. Like their, their fertility rate is almost for four babies per couple.

[B]

Elon. Hugh. Surprise. I didn't, by the way, I didn't know Elon was going to be at Davos. I definitely, I was like, I would have stayed. Like somebody could have told me.

[D]

But yeah, I was talking to Cremu recently and he pointed out, I think child among. Well, so just in general children has at least, I think among white Americans, at least, average number of children is no longer dysgenic, as it were. Like, it's no longer, it's now an upward. Till you have more kids, the higher you earn overall on average. But I think still the trough. There's still the trough. Like upper income, like upper middle class income is still really bad. They're the ones, these Henry people are actually probably earning too much to count for it. But they're most common is people earning like $300,000 and they're like, I can't afford more than one.

[C]

Well, there is a middle class trap in our tax code. Like for real, you can make three to five hundred thousand dollars. You're at the max of the tax bracket. You can never get ahead. You can never get. Because what ends up happening, it's a both. And I will say you end up spending more, but then you're getting taxed more. And so you're actually never really able to make traction and get up to that. To that.

[B]

Well, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. Since we're talking about making money and we're talking.

[D]

Oh yeah, all right.

[B]

Up into different.

[D]

Let's go, let's go.

[C]

So I like, this was a topic.

[D]

This came up. This came up because we were debating whether Greenland's Greenland sale would happen. And Jack said, of course Greenland's for sale. He says it's like Monopoly. Everything's always for sale. Oh, I thought oh, sorry. No, we gotta get this. We'll have to do that another week. Sorry.

[B]

You're just admitting that you suck at Monopoly. Yes, everything is for sale.

[A]

Always.

[D]

Yes, everything's for sale. Although I guess maybe it wasn't for sale enough because pockets of it were for sale. You can buy one of the three properties.

[C]

Pockets.

[B]

That's. No, no, no. Phase one is you get the deed, then. Then you build the bases. But once he builds four bases, then he can build the Mega City.

[D]

Yeah, well, I mean, so as it happens, since we made the Monopoly comparison. Jack, I actually have the Monopoly board here. And if you look at the green. I told you we were going to talk about it later. If you have the green lands on the Monopoly board. Okay, okay. Well, if you look at a Monopoly.

[B]

Yeah, we can't see it, you guys. Oh, wow.

[D]

If you look at a Monopoly board, there are three green properties. They're the ones next to Park Place and Boardwalk.

[C]

Oh, yeah. North Carolina, Right.

[D]

Pennsylvania.

[B]

That's one of the new boards.

[D]

Pacific Avenue.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Which they're not well named because Greenland's in.

[C]

You know why I never liked those ones is because it was like 200, wasn't it? Like 200. A house on those.

[D]

Something like that. They're not nearly as good as blue.

[C]

Yeah. And then blue.

[B]

No, wait. You know why the names are like that, though, right?

[D]

Atlantic City.

[B]

Yeah. So all the names are based on streets in Atlantic City.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. And it's very funny. Like the whole thing is based on some georgist plot to argue that we need a land tax and everything. And so is it really. Yes, it is. It was called the Landlords Game. And the entire point was that making like that if you had landlords who could just charge money on things, then it will, like, drive everyone to poverty and bankruptcy and no one can get ahead. To loop it back to that property tax debate we had the other day.

[C]

Yeah. Because there's only. It's a zero sum game. It's a winner take all.

[D]

Exactly. But we did want to hit it. So I guess we have a few different.

[B]

Came out in the 1930s.

[D]

I was looking here. I was looking at the tokens that come in this game. And you know what's missing from the sets we all had growing up? They don't have the iron anymore. Which. The iron is definitely.

[B]

I remember the iron.

[D]

Yeah. I. Now, I don't remember anyone's favorite. It was the OG Iron. Where. Yeah, you.

[B]

No, it's like, just like an iron. Just a weight.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. Well, Yeah, I mean, it's not like a. It's not like the electric irons we have now. Yeah. You had to put it on the top of the wood stove or whatever.

[D]

So the tokens we have in this version.

[B]

What do you mean we?

[D]

I don't iron the tokens we have in this version. We have the. We have a top.

[B]

Something called a wife.

[D]

We have the top hat wife. We have.

[C]

She's Eastern European. It's different.

[D]

We have a little kind of terrier dog. Like the. I think it was the Yorkshire terrier.

[C]

Yorkshire terrier?

[B]

Yeah. I don't know.

[D]

Is that in the original?

[C]

Yep.

[D]

All right.

[C]

Least everything I've ever. Every Monopoly board I've ever played.

[F]

I don't remember the dog ever.

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[A]

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[B]

So I went. I went kind of like down the rabbit hole in this too, because my, my 7 year old is like really in a Monopoly right now. We got Phillyopoly and we're like playing that too. But apparently a lot of the original, original tokens in Monopoly are not the ones that a lot of people grew up with. So we went out and we didn't have like an actual Monopoly game. So I was like, let me just go get A regular one. So they sell a modern Monopoly now. And you can also get though the 80s monopoly. And the 80s monopoly is the one that's based on like this is the game that you remember when you were a kid that had all of those things that you were just mentioning. But if you go back to the original originals, the tokens are like completely different.

[D]

Yeah, I'm looking at what I remember from. Yeah, the one growing up and I think some of these were at least around by the 50s. It's like after World War II you had a pretty good run of like similar tokens. So we have the thimble. The Thimble has been around for. Yeah, it's interesting they have this one. The reason they did this was the original, original Monopoly did not have tokens. And it was just basically like pick items in your home. And so people would use buttons or thimbles because they would have sewing kits at home. We have the race car that's a classic one that does date to the 30s. So you got to keep the racer.

[B]

Do you know it was a Great Depression. So like.

[D]

Yeah, we have the yours game took off.

[B]

So thimbles were like.

[D]

But I think these are all new. I don't remember these.

[C]

I've got it.

[D]

I don't remember these from the version I had growing up. We have the money bag. I think this was added in the late 90s. It's like a sack of money. It kind of looks like a baked potato.

[C]

I've never seen that one. And then these.

[D]

I have no memory.

[C]

You want to know the original.

[D]

Hold on, hold on. Let's. Let's go through the tokens. And then we have. I don't remember any of these. We have a rubber ducky. Yeah, we have a puddy cat. We just have like a house cat.

[B]

Yeah, that's the. That's the brand new one. You just. Cuz the one that I just got.

[D]

And then we have a penguin. Those definitely don't remember a penguin.

[C]

Now these are all new.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

So wait, so Blake.

[B]

So Blake, is that the one that has the new. The new rules where they actually warn about house rules? They warn you about this?

[D]

Oh, let's take a look because.

[B]

So Tyler, you were telling me you were like really big on house rules, right?

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Oh yes it does. It says your game are rules. House rules could be making your Monopoly game rules longer. Never put cash in the middle of the board. You don't get a bonus for landing on free parking. Always auction when someone doesn't want to buy the Property they've landed on. And never loan money to other players or make deals not to charge each other rent. And so it's so funny because it is true. It's like people have that. They'll say, I don't want to play Monopoly. It takes too long. And then they make rules that make the game longer.

[E]

Yeah, no, free. This is stupid. You cannot do free. You cannot put money in the board. I will not play Monopoly with somebody that plays with money.

[D]

But you know what's sickening, Jack? This is truly sickening. So they have this warning on Monopoly, but they have a sinister agenda. Because while we were buying this Monopoly set at Target, I saw they had for sale next to it expansions for Monopoly.

[C]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[D]

Everybody knows expansion. And one of them is called the free parking expansion. And it's just a. We included actual pieces and such to make the getting money when you land on free parking thing. A reality. Except they supercharged it. Like, you can basically win the lottery when you get on it, or you can get a. There's one reason property.

[B]

There's one where you can buy. There's one where you can buy everything. Like, you could buy. Go. You could buy the jail. You can buy, like, the tax. Like, all the different.

[D]

Yeah. And then the last one is a jail.

[B]

That sounds really cool.

[D]

They have a jail expansion. And apparently in that one you can, like, go to jail, but you can get corruption tokens while in jail and then use these to not pay rent or even you land on some space to make them pay you rent because you're, like, extorting them.

[C]

So guess what the first game pieces were?

[D]

First game pieces?

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Iron. An iron. Okay.

[C]

Yeah. A thimble.

[D]

A thimble.

[C]

A shoe.

[D]

Oh, I remember the shoe.

[C]

I shoe. And the top hat. And get this one, two that I did not know of. A cannon.

[E]

Oh, yeah, the cannon.

[C]

And a battleship.

[D]

Yeah, the battleship.

[C]

I bet it's like that was in 1935. By 1936, they had a rocking horse, a purse, a lantern. And it just. It varied. In 1936, 1937, they brought the dog in 19. And so that lasted until after World War II. And so then they had the battleship. The boot or shoe. Cannon, Horse and rider. Iron race car, Scotty dog. I think that's the Scotty dog, right? Oh, yeah. There was a horse thimble, top hat, Wheelbarrow. Wheelbarrow.

[E]

A guy on a horse that, like, the horse is like, up on its hind legs, Right.

[D]

I don't remember that.

[B]

Yeah, I feel like there's like it has a platform.

[C]

So they added the penguin, the T Rex. There's a T. Rex one. A rubber duck and a penguin. They added that 2017. So they started getting super effing during 2017.

[D]

I guess we're just lucky, like in 2020 we didn't get a Monopoly that has like the protest fists and then maybe like a rain, a BLM flag.

[E]

But this is interesting because this is must have been what men were interested in. The horse and rider, a battleship, a cannon and a top hat. And women. It was iron thimble, like shoe, I guess, and Scotty dog. Yeah, like that. That's kind of interesting.

[D]

And I wonder. I wonder if the reason they used those was that maybe those were common in other board games at the time or that people would use little model toys.

[C]

Sack of money. Sack of money. We have here. Fan poll added an 11th token in 1999, and that was the sack of money.

[F]

I don't remember, though. The sack of money at any point.

[C]

I don't remember. Let me. Can I see it? The sack of money.

[B]

So. So here's the thing, right? The. The problem with these, with the. With all the house rules is that people don't understand that when you inject more money into the system that inflates everything and you're just. You're essentially creating a money printer rather than actually let the economy stay at the. At the level of equilibrium that it would. This is why. That it actually would. This is why people don't understand inflation. This is like in the real world, people don't get that because you've been playing Monopoly wrong your entire lives. You fools. Stop the house rules. We have to. Guys, we have to take a pledge right now. Yes, I'm going to pledge. I pledge I will no longer ever use the house rules in Monopoly. You might do the expansions, but I will never, ever do the house rules again.

[E]

Yeah, do not play. Do not play.

[C]

By house rules, you mean you got to stick to the original rules is what you're saying? Actually, we sometimes kind of want that expansion pack, that jail expansion.

[B]

Blake, is that the one?

[D]

That's $10.

[B]

Blake, is that the one where they also talk about the speed version?

[E]

There is a speed version. So if you download the game, they actually. So it's nice on the, on the, on the app game, which I play on the airplane all the time against the, against all of the hard CPUs. They, they. You can go through and pick house rules and do a bunch of different stuff that's on there or you can do a sped up version which forces every. You could do it. So you can go to auction on every single one and so it just like slams through. Or you can force everybody to buy every single time.

[B]

And.

[E]

And you can skip ahead to where there's a different dice.

[C]

Where do you double when you land on Go, do you double the payout?

[D]

No, no, That's a very powerful one. I've always played.

[F]

You have a double on go and I've always. With money.

[C]

Yeah, I've always played money in the middle. And then you get it if you land on free parking. And then if you land on Go, you get double.

[D]

Sickening.

[E]

That's how.

[D]

Sure. Absolutely sickening.

[C]

I'm just saying it teaches you so.

[D]

Many important economic things. Like the reason everyone's going bankrupt. Everyone's going bankrupt. Renting is because you can't add any new properties to the board. You need to build new housing.

[C]

What if. What if? The reason we have so many socialists is they literally think in terms of monopoly economics where one person wins it all, you don't get anything. And you could just make up the new rules for the house. I don't know.

[D]

Is this the Indian music? Oh, the Mamdani.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

Gosh, you guys.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[D]

You know, speaking of one person winning at all, should we, can we hit this tonight? Let's. Let's hit the salary.

[C]

Oh, let's do it.

[D]

We need to bully Andrew while he's here.

[C]

No, I'm gonna bully you. That's the whole point.

[D]

For those of you who don't follow professional sports, there's 30. There's 29 teams in major League Baseball that are competing. And then there's also the Los Angeles Dodgers who just have a giant pile.

[F]

Of the Phillies, the Mets, the Yankees, the Blue Jays.

[D]

No, no, no one. There used to be rich teams and then like smaller market teams. Now there's just the Dodgers. And I discovered today the Dodgers have a rigged system where they don't have to pay like their TV revenue into the general pot because they went bankrupt in 2010. And they got this rigged deal where they get to keep more of their TV money.

[C]

Frank McCourt had to sell the company.

[D]

Yes. They bankrupted the team. And so the MLB gave them a special sweetheart deal in court.

[C]

Billion dollar deal paid out over 20 years.

[D]

So they basically get an extra $60 million a year in TV money that other teams don't get.

[C]

60 million. Come on. Whatever.

[D]

That's more than, I think the payroll of my team.

[C]

No, that's one contract. For the Dodgers every year.

[D]

Yeah, exactly. And so that's like what?

[C]

I don't know.

[D]

Kyle.

[F]

Kyle Tucker.

[C]

Gotta be honest with you. Usually you don't fall into this trap, but like it's a lot of cope coming from you. Right?

[D]

Yeah. I'm stuck being a Minnesota Twins fan. And they will.

[C]

Oh my gosh.

[D]

Ever.

[C]

You should abandon the Minnesota.

[D]

No, I will not. That's lame.

[C]

The George Floyd team. Like, come on.

[D]

I mean, Minnesota's. It is pretty bad. They're. They're subreddits.

[C]

Good since you had Kirby Puckett.

[D]

No, they were okay when they had Joe Maurer a few years ago.

[E]

They had a. Had a decent team.

[C]

They had the.

[D]

They had the most home runs of any.

[F]

They're also in like the worst division all of baseball by a mile.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, that's true too. But I'm trying to think who else has succeeded in that division.

[F]

It's been the Indians like for the last five, six years.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

I do not acknowledge the name change.

[C]

Here's the thing. So you had like the Royals. The Royals won, right?

[F]

Yeah.

[C]

Baseball is different than NBA. It's even different than the NFL. NFL is probably the in between sport. But you can have the best payroll in baseball and still lose. And candidly, last World Series was amazing because the Blue Jays were playing better than the Dodgers. If you watch that, that whole series back, the Blue Jays were the better team. They looked better. Their bats were sharper. Yeah, it was. It was. The Dodgers truly found grit and determination. It was a miraculous finish the year before they destroyed the Yankees. I mean, it was a five game.

[F]

Well. And the brewers had like the best record in baseball by like five or six games easily. And they were 20. They were 23rd out of 30 teams. I looked it up in total payroll. 23rd. And they had the best record over everybody by at least five or six games.

[C]

And then the Dodgers swept them in the nlcs.

[D]

It's.

[B]

I think they. I was looking this up the other day. It said the Dodgers. When was it like 2013. When they got sold. Is that right?

[C]

I think it was earlier.

[B]

2 billion.

[C]

I think it was earlier. It was like 2010. Yeah, 2010. 2011. When Frank owner.

[B]

But then the big. But then the big story was that they signed Guggenheim deal.

[C]

Right. That's what Blake's talking about. So there was a whole series like couple of seasons where you had to have. I forget, maybe it was Comcast or something. You had like.

[B]

We're like all the money like really built up.

[C]

Yeah. Probably they've Signed that deal. But then, I mean, candidly, it's been. It's been about a 15, 16 year run of the Guggenheim Group. Just really running that team well. So they have a good farm system. They trade aggressively. They're better at analytics, they are better at player development. They're better. So what they'll do is they, you know, they got like a guy like Max Muncie who was a washout with A's, and then they redeveloped him and he's. He's a really important batter for them, but he's not that highly paid. They raise guys up like Bellinger is now in the Yankees. He was a farm system product. They have Will Smith. He was a farm system product. So, yeah, they go out and get a lot of international guys. They're willing to spend money for years, though. Remember when they lost the trash droves in 2017?

[D]

The trash draws, retreating.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

They didn't go out and get anybody. That was like. So finally in 2017, after that world Series loss, they started spending money that's like. And then they won a World Series doing that. They won the. I believe. Well, they won 2020 during the COVID year. But then they.

[D]

Look, we don't need to. We don't need to narrate every single thing the Dodgers have done.

[C]

They won after they spent money on Mookie bets. So then they spent money on Freed Freeman and then whatever. Money on Shohei. And now they're spending.

[D]

And now they're spending money on.

[E]

They spend.

[D]

They spent.

[E]

They have like not. They've intentionally not spent money.

[C]

And they're pay more.

[E]

It's not.

[C]

This is. Here's my last.

[D]

They pay more in luxury tax than many teams do in their total payroll.

[C]

And they still make more money.

[E]

The Dodgers should go to jail. Every person involved. The Shohei contract should go to jail. President Trump should come out and say, no more. Foreigners are allowed to play baseball.

[C]

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[C]

Here's what I'll say. It is good for you.

[E]

Let me finish my statement because that's gonna get clipped. Wait. No more foreigners are allowed to come to America and play baseball with a structured deal like that.

[C]

He was already in America.

[E]

We should tax them more. I know we should tax them more, but we should have American corporations, you know, subjecting poor young men like Shohei Ohtani to slavery for years like that.

[C]

He's gonna get paid.

[E]

Oh yeah, like 30 years from now.

[C]

Yeah, when he's all washed out, he's gonna get paid 45 years from now. What? I'll say he's still collecting paycheck. Jack, you know this Philly could spend big. They have spent big. They actually stole some of our players, Turner. Yeah, exactly. So here's the other thing. I'll say it's good for baseball to have a villain just because they won two in a row. Everybody's like all butt hurt about it. Sorry. Get over it. It's really hard to, to win one. It's extraordinarily hard to win two. It was a miracle this year.

[D]

So super Defensive, about here's 3.

[C]

A 3 peat is almost impossible if it happens. You guys can complain if that's really hard.

[B]

So here's what's going to happen though. Here's, here's why. Here's my. This is the like the conspiracy theory is that the NFL is helping the, the NFL is helping L A to get to the super bowl because they want LA to have a World Series and a Super bowl because they're trying to turn L. A into like the new sports town. And they really so like, they just obviously like they've had Dodgers for a while and now boom, they want to Get. They want to give them. They've got to all of a sudden. Right. You know, just in the last couple of years, they've picked up. They've gone from no team, NFL teams to two teams. So now they need. Because they got what, the Sofi Stadium. So now what do they need? They need a Super Bowl. And when you look. I'm just saying, man, when you look at some of the call, the play calling in the, you know, the last. The last couple of playoff games, it's kind of interesting. Kind of interesting?

[C]

They already got a Super Bowl. What are you talking about? The Rams won. When did they win?

[F]

Like two years ago, three years ago.

[C]

With McVeigh and Stafford. And Stafford.

[B]

I'm saying, like, they want to build up the Super Bowls.

[C]

Yeah. All right. So they want them to win more Super Bowls.

[D]

No, I don't. There's not any consequences of this sort outside the NBA. The NBA is, in fact, they're a big.

[B]

They're a bigger market. Seattle, they don't want. Or like Denver.

[C]

Well, that's not true, though. That's why the Royals want to win.

[D]

This is the thing. This is, guys. This is why you need a salary cap. The NFL actually figured it out where by making the teams pretty comparable, they realized, oh, we're big enough. We can make a team in any city a huge deal. Kansas City is not a major market.

[F]

Yeah, but the NFL is not even that comparable. Like, you have organized. Like, the jets are terrible.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

No matter what in the NFL, the only thing that matters in the NFL, the only thing that matters is, is how competent your organization is. And the only place you can really spend extra, I guess, is how much you spend on your coach, because that's not subject to a cap, but it's actually quite strict. You need a lot of skill to build a team in the NFL and mlb.

[F]

The mlb, the Oakland A's were exactly like Moneyball was the exact example of that.

[D]

The Oakland A's aren't even Moneyball anymore, and they're not even in Oakland anymore. In fact, they're not anywhere in Sacramento right now.

[B]

There's some. There's some compelling. I didn't pull it up before the show. I literally. I just flew 4400 miles to get here for the episode today. But there's some pretty compelling articles out there about how, like, the lineups of. Of how certain players get played at certain times to help with, like, the betting, to help, like, cover spreads and stuff like that, and they get played and get benched and all that. And it just, it lines up in such a way where it's like, is that really just coincidental or you're talking about NFL? Yeah, NFL.

[D]

Nah. Now the NFL, like, well, we'll definitely have. Gambling is going to be possible.

[B]

There's no way anyone could be corrupt.

[D]

The NFL is not. The NFL is not to rig at super bowl because if they would do that, like there's a million other things that they would have rigged.

[C]

Hold on. I just want to make a point. Baseball is not the NFL. It's had an attention issue. Right. People are tuning out of baseball. Too slow, too long, whatever.

[D]

Too easy to buy a championship.

[C]

Having a villain to root against. This the. I don't know what the exact metrics were, but I heard that they. This World Series was the most watched World Series in basically over a decade. Is that massive? Yes, it was mass. The ratings.

[F]

Were they counting though? Like everything from Japan and all that?

[C]

I don't know. I don't think so. They. There's metrics on Japan because like a third of Japan watched or half of Japan watch. But no, no, it was, it was something like 27 and a half million were watching game six and seven. It was big, big ratings for MLB. It is good for the game for everybody to hate the Dodgers and bring it on.

[E]

I mean, seven games, I will say this, a seven game World Series, I would take that.

[B]

No, that was great. I watched it.

[E]

Yeah. Over. I feel like even with teams I.

[C]

Don'T care about, I feel like I'm Donald Trump and you guys are all the European sniveling brats who are like, oh, we could defend ourselves and look at Kansas City can play. But you know what? I'm like, I have bigger.

[B]

Wait. I do see though, I'm being attacked in the chat right now and I need to defend my. Defend something. My integrity Here people are saying. I'm saying that about the NFL because the Eagles lost. No, no, no.

[D]

Which they did.

[B]

Lost because they ran four verts on fourth down. The Eagles lost because the play calling on the offensive from the offensive former offensive coordinator was. That's why the Eagles lost.

[D]

Jack is saying they lost because they got the call. Man.

[C]

There's a lot. There's a lot of.

[B]

They deserve to leave. Absolutely.

[C]

A lot of cope.

[B]

There are other. There are other games like that interception that was not that you. I'm sorry. There's no interceptions on the ground. Like, this is not rugby. You don't get to do that.

[C]

Oh, that was crazy. Wait, was that the Eagles game? I thought that Was.

[B]

No, that was not the Eagles game.

[D]

That was.

[B]

I'm. That's what I'm saying. The stuff I'm talking about is not the Eagles. Like the Eagles. That was a loss.

[C]

Like that interception was garbage. That was totally garbage.

[F]

But if you're the NFL, you'd want Josh Allen to win that game.

[C]

Exactly. And then for. Then they fire McDonald.

[B]

The NFL hates Josh Allen.

[C]

Why do they hate Josh Allen? No, they don't. They love any good quarter.

[B]

Hate him forever.

[F]

Well, the Broncos ended up winning and Bonix broke his ankle. So they're playing with the backup quarterback anyways, so.

[C]

For ratings.

[B]

Because he broke his leg.

[C]

Just interrupted us to like cheer the Packers.

[D]

Yes. What happened to the Packers Were defeated because they are.

[C]

Because the Bears beat them. And then the Bears almost had a comeback and they lost to the Rams. Rams.

[F]

The quarterback is in.

[B]

See the Rams.

[C]

You see?

[B]

You see what I'm saying?

[D]

A very lame theory. What we have is we should just have the NFL.

[B]

We were going to talk about baseball coverage. Everybody says this. I'm not the guy who came up with this.

[D]

We started talking about baseball, but we started talking about the NFL anyway because the NFL is more exciting and the NFL is more exciting because it has a strict salary cap. And if baseball had a strict salary.

[C]

I got to defend Jack because he's remote. It's harder for him to chime in here. What's up, Jack?

[B]

Oh, no, I was just going to say, speaking of the NFL, and I know we're getting that. Getting to showtime here. There's a game that they play at the end of the NFL season that's coming up. You guys remember what that game's called? It's like the one game where like you win the big tall metal.

[C]

The dish kind of looking queer. Celebration of something so.

[B]

So. Well, we've got to read this. This rumble rant that's in here, but I think there's. It's called the Super Bowl. That's right. The Super Jet lag. The Super Bowl. The Super Bowl. And I heard they're gonna be having a halftime show with this queer Named Bad Bunny and. Well, Blake, do you want to read it? Since you always.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, we'll read this. It's from Sand Sandra Gabhart. Did you guys see this exclusive Bunny. Bad Bunny.

[B]

He's a clear icon.

[D]

NFL addressing down how the boundary pushing Bad Bunny plans to use super bowl halftime show outfit to honor queer icons.

[C]

Oh, boy. Radar online.

[D]

I assume that's just who.

[C]

No, that's who published it. Yeah, well, Listen, the NFL is going to play stupid games and win stupid prizes.

[D]

I mean, it's not a stupid.

[B]

Because I seem to remember it's not the super. That. That there's someone. Someone else is doing another event right around the same time as that.

[C]

It is, but this is exactly called. We. We have stories to tell from this whole thing and we'll probably.

[B]

That's right. We are. I forgot about that. We are actually.

[C]

We have stories to tell about this whole thing. It. The NFL is a. Is a. Is a beast, man. It's. It's crazy.

[B]

I told you, dude.

[D]

We have drama related to big game.

[C]

No, I'm just saying. Nobody.

[B]

Nobody wants to go up against the NFL.

[D]

The game that is large.

[F]

This is.

[C]

This. That's what Jack is getting at is.

[B]

I told you.

[C]

More true than you realize.

[B]

I told you, man. I was like, they're not gonna like this.

[C]

They're not gonna like the name.

[D]

Oh, man.

[F]

Wow.

[D]

That is gonna be a fun story. No wonder we haven't heard as much.

[B]

Wait, are you. Wait, Andrew, are you. Are you telling me that there's pressure on people to not get involved with the Turning Point halftime show? To not perform, to not be. To not host, to not be the venue? Are you saying that. Is that possible?

[C]

My.

[D]

Could it be an organization that has.

[C]

A zoom, as I've tried. We did these. We did the. The thumbnail looks the other day. That's what I was trying to do.

[D]

Is there an organization that has a large number of Monopoly money bag tokens, a lot of influence to this, that being.

[C]

I don't know, Jack. Maybe since we're. Maybe we'll talk about it later.

[B]

Since we are being vague. I do want to say, at least for the benefit of the audience, that yes, there is going to be a All American halftime show. And it's getting amazing and you guys are going to love it.

[C]

That's it. It's true.

[B]

No announcements. But you got. But I can tell you, you guys are going to love it.

[C]

It's going to be great. And the team's doing a great job with it. And more announcements coming and they've done a great job with it, despite some of the, you know, things that Jack was alluding to. It's going to be fun.

[E]

It's gonna be fun.

[C]

It's gonna be really.

[E]

Oh, yeah. And it's gonna be fun to watch the reaction and.

[C]

Well, anybody's.

[E]

Again, there's gonna be just a lot of hatred and vitriol that's thrown at it. And I'm really excited for that and.

[B]

But, but like you know people are gonna be very upset.

[C]

You see the stuff from battle, Ronnie like using it as an. He just wants to put his thumb in the eye of the country of traditional anything of America. Whatever. Jack, take us home buddy.

[B]

Ladies and gentlemen, don't be bad bunny. Don't be an anti American. Instead go out there and commit more thought crime.

[D]

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[B]

And news you can trust, go to charliekirk.

[C]

Com.