THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 122 — Would You Rather? Musical IQ? 40-Year Single Parties?

Summary

The Charlie Kirk Show — THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 122: Would You Rather? Musical IQ? 40-Year Single Parties?

Date: April 11, 2026
Host: Charlie Kirk, with Jack Posobiec, Blake, Andrew Kolvet, and Tyler Bowyer
Theme: Playful, irreverent, unapologetically conservative cultural analysis and banter around news, music, weddings, and social trends, all with signature “thought crime” hypotheticals.

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Episode Overview

This lively, wide-ranging “Thursday Thoughtcrime” roundtable pivots through major pop culture, social, and lifestyle topics — from America’s relationship with Japan, to the politics of music taste, to the emerging trend of “40-year-old single parties.” Charlie and crew take on controversial ideas, tongue-in-cheek hypotheticals, and musical debates with their signature mix of offbeat humor, cultural critique, and no-holds-barred commentary.

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Key Discussions & Highlights

1. Kicking Off: Pop Culture “Thought Crimes”

[01:17–10:00]

• Charlie Kirk introduces the crew and welcomes everyone, joking about “thought crimes” in public culture — the idea that holding certain views or preferences (especially conservative ones) gets you in trouble.

  • Quote – Charlie Kirk [00:03]: “My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth.”
  • Banter about Japan’s cultural orderliness, safety for kids, and how American/Japanese Twitter users connected after a bot purge.

• The group pokes fun at “pagan” themes in media, especially in classic video games and movies — a recurring meme within their audience.

  • Jack [03:32]: “Is Super Mario Galaxy pagan? It’s got turtle wizards. I’m on a set with two Catholics right now—you guys have me beat on pagan ID.”

• Opening music cues parody Tyler’s reputation for lateness (“Mormon time”), and the hosts rib on each other’s musical and cultural preferences.

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2. America, Japan, and the “Bromance” of Allies

[07:11–10:20]

• Explores increasing affection and alliance between Japan and America, both online and geopolitically.

  • Jack [09:00]: “We need to go all in—remilitarize Japan, let them get nukes. Let's rekindle the bromance and defend each other.”

• Jokes about past conflicts and shifting alliances (Pearl Harbor, Trump’s jokes), then segue to “who is America’s greatest ally?” playfully hinting at stereotypes.

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3. Kanye West, Music & Cultural Canceling

[10:50–18:23]

• Discusses Kanye West being blocked from the UK due to controversy.

  • Blake [12:44]: “I’d expect him to have a less white audience if he does that.”
  • Debates why Kanye is banned, revisiting similar bans for conservative figures.

• The hosts riff on the nature of rap: is it music or not? Should conservatives support rap artists?

  • Blake [14:42]: “Rap is not really music. It’s just a step above a crazy guy on the subway shouting.”

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4. The Beatles, “Paul Is Dead,” and Music’s Cultural Impact

[18:23–29:32]

• The “Paul is Dead” Conspiracy:
  Jack delivers a detailed, tongue-in-cheek rundown of the Beatles conspiracy that Paul McCartney died in 1966 and was replaced.

  • Jack [22:20]: “The Abbey Road cover is a funeral procession—barefoot Paul is the corpse; license plate clues, hidden bands… All there!”

• Beatles as Cultural Change Agents:
  Tyler argues the Beatles harmed American youth by pulling them away from traditional values; others debate whether art needs a message.

  • Tyler [24:51]: “The Beatles did so much damage to American youth — their influence was so negative.”
  • Charlie [27:08]: “I resonate... it was a time when kids were turning their backs on traditional values. It was a road to nowhere.”

• Parallels are drawn between Beatles fandom, Lord of the Rings’ hippie popularity, and 1960s counterculture.

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5. Music Taste & IQ: Unpacking the Chart

[31:05–39:03]

• The crew reviews the viral chart correlating favorite bands and SAT scores.
  • Blake [31:55]: “The science is settled: your favorite band reveals how smart you are.”
  • They highlight Beethoven and Counting Crows at the top, Lil Wayne at the bottom, poking fun at each other's picks.
  • Charlie [34:36]: “Switchfoot as dumb as Maroon 5? I do not agree!”

Panel’s Musical Top 5s (as per the chart):

• Tyler: Jimmy Eat World, Yellowcard, Counting Crows, Something Corporate (debated).

• Jack: Radiohead, The Beatles, David Bowie, Nirvana, Metallica.

• Andrew: Bob Dylan, Pearl Jam, Jimmy Eat World, George Strait.

• Blake: Classic rock, Metallica, Green Day, Queen (admits to liking “dumb” music).

• They joke about the apparent contradiction between IQ and musical sophistication, noting some supposedly “dumb” bands have devoted fans.

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6. The Evolving Structure of Pop/Rock Songs

[46:22–50:27]

• The panel observes how traditional song structure (verse/chorus/verse/chorus/bridge) doesn’t apply to the most iconic songs ("Bohemian Rhapsody,” “Stairway to Heaven").

  • Blake [49:21]: “Irregular, progressive songs—none of these classics follow the format. It’s interesting.”

• Debates follow about whether musical complexity signals intelligence (comparing older music’s key changes and range to today’s “Walmartification” and TikTok pop).

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7. “40-Year-Old Single Parties”: New Social Trend

[51:57–65:07]

• Segment Start [52:40]: Introduction of People Magazine’s profile of women who throw themselves “weddings” for their own 40th birthdays, often in lavish styles.

  • Clip—Party Planner [53:15]: “Black tie, then a white gown... Princess Diana-themed shooting day... Studio 54 party—over the top, everything.”
  • Tyler [54:55]: “If you got invited to that, do you go?”
  • Charlie [55:58]: “It just shows the lack of fulfillment that’s being unmet...they’ve created a false reality...participation trophy culture.”

• The panel critiques these parties as examples of narcissism, anti-tradition, and social media-driven “Disney adult” infantilization.

  • Tyler [59:11]: “It’s like the Disney adult thing—people living out childhood fantasies because they didn’t achieve milestones.”

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8. Surrogacy, IVF & the Catholic Perspective

[67:47–69:21]

• Shift to a serious exchange about surrogacy and IVF, and why traditional faiths, especially Catholicism, reject such means of procreation.
  • Jack [68:14]: “The Church always says the procreative act must be within marriage...that’s the point of marriage.”

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9. The Return of Bathhouses and “Would You Rather?”

[73:27–82:53]

• Bathhouses in Minneapolis [73:33–80:37]:
  Debate on why Minneapolis wants to reintroduce adult bathhouses after decades, riffing on public health and social trends, and drawing contrasts with Eastern European bathing culture. Jack and others recount visits to European bathhouses for context.

• Would You Rather? Segment [81:02–89:34]:
  Blake pitches hypothetical moral dilemmas that reflect (and exaggerate) popular conservative anxieties or social trends, including:

  • Bathhouse vs. 40-year-old-wedding (“I’ll take the wedding. Free food!”)
  • Loose daughter or loser son?
    Jack [82:53]: “The loser son can be fixed. Easier than a thought daughter.”
  • Daughter marries a Muslim vs. is a single mom:
    All hosts prefer non-conversion.
  • Gay, conservative child vs. straight, ultra-liberal child:
    Debate on the tradeoff between values and lifestyle.
  • The chat occasionally votes or chimes in.

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10. Final Banter: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Pop Culture, & Wrapping Up

[90:01–End]

• Absurd, light-hearted “would you rathers,” e.g., control over every quarter spent in a Ninja Turtles arcade vs. making the Turtles real.
  • Charlie [90:12]: “What does it profit a man to gain the world but lose the Ninja Turtles?”
  • Celebration of Turtles as uniquely enduring pop heroes.

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• “My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth... If the most important thing is feeling good, you’ll end up miserable. If the most important thing is doing good, you will end up purposeful.” – Charlie Kirk [00:03]
• “Is Super Mario Galaxy pagan? It’s got turtle wizards.” – Jack [03:39]
• “There will never be a band more popular than the Beatles.” – Jack [24:21]
• “The Beatles did so much damage to the American youth.” – Tyler [24:51]
• “Art doesn’t need a message. It can just stand on its own.” – Jack [27:47]
• “The science is settled—your favorite band reveals how smart you are.” – Blake [31:13]
• “This is much clearer than the thing I was looking at... Why is Aerosmith so low?” – Charlie [34:13]
• “Participation trophy culture — creating a fake wedding is no different.” – Charlie [55:04]
• “It feels like the Disney adult thing — living out childhood fantasies you missed because you never hit those milestones.” – Tyler [59:13]
• “What does it profit a man to gain the whole world but lose the Ninja Turtles?” – Charlie [90:12]

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Structured Timestamps By Segment

| Time | Segment/Topic | |-----------|------------------------------------------------------| | 01:17 | Panel introductions, “Thought Crimes” theme | | 03:12 | Pagan themes in pop culture, Super Mario, Zelda | | 07:11 | America/Japan “bromance” | | 10:50 | Kanye West, UK ban, music/culture canceling | | 18:23 | Paul is Dead, Beatles, culture wars | | 31:05 | Musical IQ Chart & hosts’ top band picks | | 46:22 | Song structure & musical complexity debate | | 51:57 | 40-year-old single parties trend, cultural critique | | 67:47 | Surrogacy, IVF, and Catholic doctrine | | 73:33 | Minneapolis bathhouses, European bathhouse culture | | 81:02 | Would You Rather? Segment (culture, values, family) | | 90:01 | Pop culture hypotheticals; Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles| | 91:09 | Wrap up, goodbyes |

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Tone & Style

• Language/Tone: Punchy, playful, frequently sarcastic, intentionally provocative but self-aware.
• Style: Panel of friends riffing off each other, moving rapidly between news, pop culture, and social commentary.
• Throughline: Emphasizes traditional values through the lens of cultural trends, with considerable room for teasing, pop culture digressions, and friendly disagreement.
• Structure: Mix of headline discussions, quick-fire banter, and recurring “Would You Rather?” scenarios.

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Takeaways for New Listeners

• Expect spirited, controversial, and eclectic conversations.
• If you enjoy cultural “hot takes” mixed with pop trivia and a conservative lens, “Thoughtcrime” is for you.
• The show leans heavily on group personality, shared jokes, and inviting the audience in on ongoing memes (like “pagan Mario” or “musical IQ”).
• Beneath the humor, there’s a consistent throughline of concern about cultural direction, generational values, and the meaning of social trends.

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Transcript

[A]

My name is Charlie Kirk. I run the largest pro American student organization in the country, fighting for the future of our republic. My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth. If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're gonna end up miserable. But if the most important thing is doing good, you will end up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody. You gotta stop sending your kids to college. You should get married as young as possible and have as many kids as possible. Go start a Turning Point USA College chapter. Go start a Turning Point USA High School chapter. Go find out how your church can get involved. Sign up and become an activist. I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade. Most important decision I ever made in my life. And I encourage you to do the same. Here I am, Lord.

[B]

Use me.

[A]

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[B]

well, ladies and gentlemen, we are back. It's time for another Thursday edition of Thursday. Thought crime. And there are so many thought crimes. Yes, thought crimes are abundant around in our society, in our world, Online, offline, wherever you go, you may run into a thought crime. And in fact, when you're getting money out of an ATM late at night in inner city Philadelphia, look over your shoulder because there might be a thought crime creeping up behind you. Yes. So who we got on deck today? I am, of course, in studio, but it looks like we got AK47 himself, Andrew Kovat. What's up, Andrew?

[C]

What's up, Jack? How's the weather back east?

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

And we're waiting on Tyler, allegedly.

[B]

Tyler. Tyler is joining. Tyler's coming. He's party as usual.

[C]

He, he claims he's coming.

[B]

He's on, he's on what we call Mormon time.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

And it's a little, a little bit different than, you know, regular time. The same reason that, you know, they don't go for daylight savings. They have different numerology. It's, it's, it's, it's one of those things, right, Blake?

[D]

Pretty much, yeah. He always, he always leaves us on our toes. You never know when he'll, he'll surface.

[C]

Yeah, well, we like Jesus.

[D]

He could be right behind me right now.

[B]

Like a thought crime.

[C]

The team is ready for him when he enters. Let me just assure you.

[B]

You know, they say, you know, they say that 13% of thought crimes. Cause 50% of all the thought crimes.

[D]

What?

[C]

You know, it's funny. 13% of the time, they work every time. So, Jack, you know, it's funny that you actually are onto something. Probably about 13% of the thought crimes that we do on the show end up going viral in one way shape or another.

[D]

But more 50% of that involve Lord of the Rings.

[B]

Still pagan. She's still pagan.

[C]

Overtly pagan. Not gonna. Wait, don't we have the line overtly, overtly pagan? See, there it is.

[B]

Pagan. That's becoming like a meme now. Every time I post something, they're like, oh, Jack, is that overtly pagan too? Because I was like, I went to see like the.

[E]

The.

[B]

Actually, I have it here. This isn't branded, but I went to see the Super Mario Galaxy with my kids.

[D]

Is that pagan?

[B]

The thing, they're like. They're like Super Mario Galaxy. Overtly pagan.

[D]

I mean, is it. Is Super Mario Galaxy. Is it pagan? I feel like it's got to be, right?

[B]

Yeah, it is. No, absolutely. Obviously. I mean, it's got turtle wizards. I'm on.

[C]

I'm on a set with two Catholics right now. You guys have me beat on the identifying of pagan.

[D]

On the other hand, Mario is Italian, and I feel like him being Italian implicitly means well. So actually.

[C]

Here we go.

[B]

Wait, so this is. Wait, no, there's actually a great line about this because the Legend of Zelda. So, you know, link, the main character in the Legend of Zelda, everyone thinks his name is Zelda, but it's not. It's actually link that if you go back, I think in the Japanese versions of, like, the original Legend of Zelda, he. He is, like, explicitly Catholic and they've got like crosses and on his shield and there's like Bibles. But it's like the Japanese version of the Middle Ages. So it's like, it's. It's like he has actual magical powers and abilities as well. And then in the American version, they changed it up.

[C]

Yeah, they do.

[D]

Oh, they definitely have. There's a. Did you ever play Castlevania back in the day?

[C]

Did you know that one?

[B]

So where you have like a whip

[D]

and you fight Dracula and stuff. And in the manual, it is canonical in the manual that the Pope called a crusade against Dracula, and that's why you have to go kill Dracula.

[C]

Wow.

[D]

Because the Pope's ordered you to do it.

[C]

You know, we really didn't talk enough on this show about. Because I think we covered in the Daily Show. But the jazz Japanese American connection. How strong it is.

[D]

Oh, it's great. We love it.

[C]

Gave us the, like, the. The Twitter purge. We all did.

[D]

We love our Japanese.

[C]

Yeah, I. I have a. I need to go to Japan. You've been to Japan?

[D]

Yes, I have.

[C]

You went with Charlie. But I. I have not gone to Japan.

[B]

Oh, it's very.

[C]

Go to a place. Wow. I think. I feel like I, like, really want to, though, now, actually. I bet I was in.

[B]

When I was in 7 Fleet, you know, Japan, obviously was like our headquarters, so anything that was, you know, like, conference wise or that I had to go to for whatever reason would be in Kosuka. So, you know, you're coming up, you're flying through Tokyo, and I mean, it's just the. I'll never forget, you know, just riding around on the metro in Japan and seeing how kids. It's so safe that they let their kids just ride mass transit to, like, go to school by themselves. They're like, there you go. And it's like. It's kind of jarring at first. You're like, where are the parents for these children? And they're just like, you know, dressed for school and they're going like little kids. And they're just like, dressed for school and with their uniforms. Then off they go. And it's. It's very. It's just very neat and orderly.

[C]

I remember that was some of Charlie's selfie videos and, like, social media videos. But that was actually. I remember him saying that about South Korea.

[D]

Actually, South Korea was the one where he was walking. I mean, that was where he walks through the park and the people are on, like, the bubble chairs. And those would obviously be, like, covered

[C]

with graffiti and graffiti. Which is sad. We don't have to live this way. But we've decided to import a permanent underclass.

[D]

And though what I will say, Korea is the place. Korea is the dirty version of Japan. So if Korea is clean, Japan is hyper clean.

[C]

He just went to South Korea.

[B]

And China is. China is like 10 times, like 10,000 times worse than Korea. Japan is incredibly so. Also, the. Blake, you remember the trash can thing in Japan?

[D]

Yes. The fact that they don't exist.

[B]

Exactly.

[D]

Oh, hold on. Do we have a musical cue? We have music playing.

[B]

Is this Japanese?

[D]

Someone is arriving.

[C]

No, it's.

[D]

Oh, it's Tyler. It's Tyler Bowyer. Late arrival Theme song.

[B]

This is Mormon music. Mormon theme song.

[C]

Is this Mormon music?

[E]

Yes, I think it is.

[D]

It must be. He wouldn't listen to it if it wasn't.

[B]

Oh, this is not Allowed to.

[C]

Is it, like, mandated?

[E]

This is New shoes.

[C]

New shoes.

[E]

This is one of my favorite. If I was going to have a podcast, this would be my intro.

[D]

Well, if I was making your. If I was making your theme song for you arriving late, it would. It would probably be. I'd probably go with.

[E]

I feel like Charlie would be like, we would, like, find out, like, a few minutes before, like, the podcast. He's like. It's like, I'm not gonna be there or I'll be late. And then we would have to, like, start all.

[C]

That's you. You're the next form.

[E]

Last four weeks. I feel like.

[C]

All right, well, since.

[B]

So we were. Well, no, I want to. I want to hit on this more. So. So, Tyler, we were just kind of like. I don't even remember how we got there, but we were sort of loving on Japan and talking about how Japan and America really need to, like, be allies now. And that was like, a big trend on Twitter. Trump met with the Prime Minister, the new prime minister of Japan in the White House. And, you know, that kind of just. And then. But at the same time, Twitter, like, they sort of did this bot purge. I don't know if it was a full bot purge or something, but it just made it so that Americans could see Japanese accounts more. And for. People don't know that for a long time, Japan has been the largest country on Twitter that has the largest daily active users da use for any country, even more than America. It's just sort of like they're their main social media there in Japan. And, you know, people didn't realize that the Japanese had so much affection for the United States of America. And, you know, that led to this kind of, you know, rekindling of the bromance or perhaps, like. Perhaps you could even say, like a. Like a, you know, blessing of the bromance between America and Japan. And, of course, that I came out and said on human events that we need to go a step further and we need to remilitarize Japan. We need to allow them to have their full Navy back, let them get nuclear weapons. Like, let's go all in.

[C]

The memes have been so good, though.

[B]

For the record, it wouldn't be the first time that we gave Japan nukes.

[C]

Oh, that just, you know, a different way.

[D]

It's not too soon.

[C]

It's not too.

[B]

Not too soon. It's not too soon. It's not too soon.

[C]

All right, Trump.

[B]

Trump made the joke about Pearl harbor, remember? Because that's kind of what started all

[D]

this all right, now where he has.

[B]

Wait, do we have it?

[D]

No, we don't.

[C]

We don't. We should have.

[B]

Oh, because. Because he goes. Just for anyone who hasn't heard it, he goes. They said, well, you know, why didn't you tell us about the. I guess it was like a Japanese reporter or something, like, why didn't you tell us about the surprise attack on Iran? He said, why didn't you tell us about Pearl Harbor?

[D]

Yeah, no, we saw it. We saw it. No, but we. We. Speaking of a country that used to be a U.S. ally. Excuse me, we have another country. So now people are saying Japan is our best ally or our best friend.

[C]

Hold on. Now they finally.

[B]

Perhaps our greatest ally. Yeah.

[D]

No.

[C]

Should we play a video since we're talking?

[D]

No, no, no, no. I want to. We have. We have. We saw that before. We've got to get to. We've got to get to the. The ex. Us Ally. The decaying us ally. It was a special relationship. Now it's more of. Just very special in that special way, which is the uk. The UK is banning travel from America to Japan. At least if you are one specific person.

[C]

I. Yes. And that person would be. Well, Kanye West. Multiple names.

[D]

He does have many names.

[C]

Kanye. Kanye West. What do you. What do we call. Is it. Is it Ye now?

[D]

I don't care.

[C]

Is that what you're supposed to do?

[D]

I don't care. I call him Kanye west because when they change too much, it's not my obligation to know what it is.

[E]

Jesus.

[C]

Jesus. There it is. Did you like.

[B]

Yeah. I gotta say, though. Wait, do we have the video. Do we have the video of that. What do they call it, the world stage that he was using with the. With the fog? Because you know that that was him standing on it. But, dude, look at this. Is this not the coolest stage you've ever seen?

[E]

It really is.

[B]

I'm sorry. It's the coolest stage I've ever seen.

[E]

I've also never seen.

[C]

That is a cool stage.

[E]

I also think that that was the widest crowd that Connie has ever had.

[D]

Look at this.

[C]

Where was this?

[B]

Look at this.

[E]

I think that was in. In California at the. At the Intuit, though.

[C]

That's sick.

[B]

Was it? Oh, I see. I thought that was Sphere. I thought that was one of those fear things.

[E]

Oh, was it? I thought he. I thought he did his concert at the Intuit, though.

[B]

That was amazing.

[E]

But I.

[B]

By the way, I just found out that. Oh, wait, I don't want to say this. Shoot. Okay. Never mind. Blame my last. I'm not going to say that because it might be a surprise for Tanya, and she watches this.

[E]

I. I saw, like, people taking videos from the crowd, and I was just, like, interested, like, who showed up? And it was a very white crowd at this thing. At Kanye's concert. Well, and again, I think. I think Kanye's appeal to a lot of people of different, diverse backgrounds. But it was definitely. There was definitely. He's definitely gained a lot of new, wider fans. Probably.

[C]

Probably.

[D]

Is that just a way of saying that he's.

[C]

Because he's embraced certain controversial, political, anti Semitic that he.

[E]

No, I'm not saying. I'm just.

[B]

I would expect him to have a less white audience if he does that.

[C]

Yeah, exactly. That's what. That's.

[E]

Yeah, I think. I think that that's more popular.

[C]

What's interesting about this, though, is he's been on this, like, apology tour trying to say, hey, I. Going with the, like, Jewish rabbis and sorry. And then he gets blocked. This is very. I. I don't understand how this even happened. Like, why would the UK go out of their way to block Kanye? What's the explanation they're giving just because of.

[D]

They want us to be stuck with him.

[B]

No, they. They've blocked people before. They blocked Michael Savage.

[C]

Yeah, Michael Savage.

[E]

Michael Savage can go.

[C]

Yeah. Oh, the.

[B]

He's been Southern as well.

[C]

Conservative commentator.

[D]

I'm sort of of two minds on this one. I don't know why we're supposed to care that much about what Kanye west says. And I thought it's weird when we had that episode, especially a couple of

[C]

years ago, of, like, that the real thought crime. Like, why. Why do. Like, why do people care what Kanye west has?

[D]

Like, as far as I'm concerned, Rabbi

[B]

not really has to say rap.

[D]

Rap is not really music. And on top of that, like, when they just say insane things, it's really just barely a step above a crazy guy on the subway saying insane things. And I don't feel that Kanye is

[C]

that far away from that caboose. Could we get some. Can we get some Kanye tracks that you actually like or do you. Are you against.

[E]

Well, here's what's the most crazy part of this. One of the most popular. Again, I don't. I don't like this song, but one of those popular songs ever was his collaboration that he did for American Boy.

[C]

I don't even know it.

[E]

Does anybody know the song American?

[B]

I don't know that one.

[C]

No.

[D]

No, I don't. I proudly don't.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Wait, no. Tyler, What. What was that song?

[E]

It's about a British.

[B]

Last year, though, it went pretty viral.

[E]

It's about a British girl being into an American guy.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

And Kanye is. Is.

[B]

Did the.

[E]

Did the collab on that, and now he can't go to the uk.

[C]

My. My favorite thing that is full circle. My favorite thing that Kanye sort of had a hand in doing was. You remember when he did that music video with Kim Kardashian on the motorcycle?

[E]

No.

[C]

You don't?

[D]

No. I don't really know Kanye.

[C]

Okay.

[D]

Until he started running for president, I couldn't have told Bound.

[C]

That's the video. So bound to. So it's just super weird. The whole music video is like, them on a motorcycle, and it's, like, gyrating, like, I don't know. And Kim Kardashian is not wearing a whole lot or anything at all. And then. Anyways, but the point is, Seth Rogen and James Franco did a whole mock, like, parody of it where. Where Seth Rogen's writing on. We should get this. We should get this.

[E]

I think Estelle that did that song with Kanye was at that concert. I think she showed up as one of his because he had a bunch of guest appearances. I think she was. I think she came out and sang with it.

[C]

I don't know. Well, anyways, we don't seem that passionate about Kanye. Nobody seems to care.

[D]

Well, I care. I just.

[C]

I kind of do not care.

[D]

I fold Kanye in with all other rappers, which is.

[C]

You just wanted.

[D]

I just aggressively want to dump on them. Like, why do people like this stuff? I think it is a setback for the right, that people on the right are fans of rap music.

[C]

That's not Kanye, though.

[E]

This is Kanye. This is a style with.

[C]

This is his version of it.

[E]

No. Estelle sings a song.

[C]

The original version.

[D]

Is he just the guy mumbling?

[E]

She sings a song, and then he raps.

[C]

Oh, I didn't realize. Here we go.

[E]

Wait, no, speed up.

[B]

It's. It's.

[E]

It's further. It's further.

[D]

Dude, we have to listen to this.

[C]

Oh, that's Kanye. I remember this. I was told.

[D]

More plugged. Was that song really enhanced by having a guy, like, jabbering in it?

[E]

Yeah, he's America. He's the American boy in the song. I mean, that's not who she wrote the song for, but in this. In that version.

[C]

Here's more Kanye.

[E]

But that was a very, very popular song. But that's the. Isn't that.

[C]

This is a. This is a big hit.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

It was a big hit.

[E]

So what?

[D]

So was the. So is the Barbie Girl song.

[E]

Here's my question. What if America banned popular British people from coming to America?

[C]

It would be like, are there any popular British.

[D]

Who would we lose if we ban.

[C]

That's a question. How is. Imagine if we banned media doing with this.

[E]

Imagine if we banned.

[C]

I don't know. Came to think of the Beatles.

[E]

Well, yeah, the Beatles. I mean, I don't know if you could compare Kanye now to, like, Beatles, but.

[D]

Well, I mean, there is a song titled Heil Hitler.

[C]

So the summer. It was summer's wireless.

[D]

It was John Lennon who had the Hitler stuff.

[E]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, John Lennon. I guess that's a good point. Like, you could probably compare Kanye west and John Lennon.

[B]

Yeah, you could.

[E]

And, like, if we. If we would have. If we would have banned John Lennon. Yeah, he said tons of controversial political stuff.

[B]

To be fair, I think Nixon did try to ban John Lennon.

[E]

Yeah, but if he would have done that, it would have been World War iii.

[B]

No, but I mean, I think he did actually try to do it. Like, they were trying to pull his. His immigration or something.

[D]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Nixon wanted to. Also, John Lennon once proposed putting Hitler on the COVID of sergeant Peppers.

[E]

Oh, see?

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

So, okay, again, like.

[B]

Like, he's pro. There's a lot of, like, provocative people on the sergeant Peppers album. If you. If you look closely.

[E]

So here's the thought.

[B]

It's like a whole array of, you know, dead celebrity, famous people, et cetera. Here's the McCartney who died in between the filming or the recording of Revolver and sergeant Pepper and was secretly replaced by a guy by the name of Billy Shears. And because, as we know, Paul McCartney actually died and in a car crash. And there's, like, secrets hidden in the lyrics.

[C]

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[E]

Okay, so, but here's the.

[C]

I hadn't even heard this.

[E]

Here's the thought.

[B]

You didn't know that Partney died in 1966 and was replaced.

[D]

You've never heard of the Paula's Dead conspiracy theory?

[B]

No, it's real.

[D]

You're even behind Mike Huckabee on that one. I remember Huckabee actually did a whole Paul is dead thing while running for president.

[C]

Did you think it's real? You actually believe it, Jay? The Paul is dead.

[B]

I mean, it's. You just. You have to believe the. The songs. It's all there. It's all there. It's.

[C]

Which song do they say? Which song do they say reveals this? That has the hidden.

[D]

Oh, there's a song in, like, all of them. There's a song in the White Album that is titled Paul McCartney is Dead. But don't talk about the song and don't tell anyone about it. And just preten. This doesn't exist. But it's on this album. He's dead, and he was replaced by this guy.

[B]

So the song I'm so tired. It's the song I'm so tired on. On Revolver has that at the end of it. It's where it's like, if you play it backwards, you hear. You hear, missy, Missy, Miss Paul is dead. And. And there's a bunch of, like, hidden clues within the Sergeant Pepper album. For example, on the COVID of Sergeant Pepper, someone has, like, an open hand over Paul McCartney's head. And they say that. That in, like, Eastern religions, like. Like Hinduism that we know that the Beatles were, like, heavily into around this time. They'd gone and hung out in India and they were, like, tight with Ravi Shankar, George Harrison was. And whose daughter is Nora Jones? Funny enough, you know so much about this.

[D]

So I guess it's really convenient in this first story.

[B]

And so that's like a sign of death, basically.

[D]

Okay, so is it really convenient in the story then, that they found a guy who not only looks like Paul McCartney, but was also a transcendental songwriter because Paul McCartney continued to write or his impostor has continued to write songs, and they've maybe they been well received

[C]

Maybe they just went through some of the, like recorded tracks that were never released and he just started releasing.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Or.

[D]

But if you explain why the Beatles

[B]

were as big as the ones with the Beatles.

[D]

What if John Lennon was actually still alive secretly and he was writing the music attributed to Paul McCartney even after his.

[B]

Yeah, he was. So. So John was alive for a decade after the Beatles.

[D]

So.

[B]

Yeah, you can see like a lot like young McCartney. So you see the hand over the head, there's stuff, you know, over Paul you could see there's. What is it like with the, with the doll on the far right? You know, there's supposed. It's like a Freddy Krueger kind of like, like shears, like, like scissors. I think there's something. What is the one thing.

[D]

Where's the.

[B]

There's like a car on the kid's knee and that's supposed to be a reference to the, you know, the death of Paul McCartney in a car crash. And, and there's that song on the, on the White Album that Ringo sings where they, it talks about you. You know, I'm so, you know, you Wait, hold on. It's. You were in a car crash and you lost your hair.

[D]

Well, and you're forgetting, you're forgetting the big one, Jack. You're forgetting the big one, which is the COVID of Abbey Road, which is. Paul McCartney is one. He has his right foot in front of him instead of his left.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

So I can walk through that.

[D]

So he's barefoot and.

[B]

Yeah, and he's barefoot. So. So the COVID of Abbey Road is actually a funeral procession. And so you have John Lennon is there as the, you know, like the angel then. And that's why he's all white. Then Ringo Starr is, is in all black. So he's like the, the priest. Then Paul is the, the one being buried. And then George, of course, is the grave digger. So him being barefoot while he's on, on asphalt on a sunny day when it's hot, that signifies death. The fact that he has a cigarette in his right hand even though everybody knows that Paul McCartney was left handed, you know, shows that it's an imposter. And there was something with the license plate as well that I forget of the Beetle that you can.

[C]

Have you heard any of this, Tyler?

[E]

No.

[D]

You've never heard of this?

[E]

But I have. No, but I'm like, are you faking that you don't know?

[D]

Because the Mormon church was involved.

[E]

The Beatle, the Beatles are so disinteresting to me. Like, I'm So disinterested.

[B]

I mean they're only the best period. Like the Mormon Church, one of them all time. One of the most innovative bands, clearly the most popular band. There will never be a band at more popular than the Beatles.

[C]

I actually agree with that and I hate that. I hate that about the band. So this, These are Paul McCartney's post Beatles career spanning solo work. And Wings produced numerous hits, critically acclaimed tracks. Check this out. Band on the Run, the Beatles. Maybe I'm amazed. That's a huge song.

[E]

But here's, here's the deal.

[C]

The Beatles were live and let live and live and let die. Jet. Coming up.

[E]

The Beatles did so much damage to American, the American youth.

[C]

How so?

[E]

I just think their influence was so negative at a time that that was an outlet for people that like were turning away from like basic American principles and they were a. Oh, so you'll

[B]

say that about the Beatles but you won't say that about Lord of the Rings, who those people were also into.

[E]

Oh gosh, I, I don't want to cause you more problems than you already have with Lord of the Rings fans.

[C]

Jack Overtly and I will cause you more problems.

[B]

Same group. People in the 1960s loved Lord of the Rings. Lord of the Rings was like the hippie bible.

[D]

Hold on, I don't know. Led Zeppelin.

[B]

If we're going to talk about the effects, like we have to, we have to be fair about this.

[E]

Okay, listen, I'm back to the Beatles. The Beatles were like subverting American culture at the time. They turned hearts, young hearts and minds away from pro American values. And you can't change my mind.

[D]

So you're saying that, you know, that there was a plot against Paul and.

[E]

Could be.

[C]

Yeah, he's kind of playing into your stereotype here.

[E]

Yeah, that very well could be.

[C]

So, so what's interesting is I heard this one time, it was a cultural critic about the Beatles and he was saying, you know, everybody wanted to hear what the Beatles had to say. The only problem with the Beatles is they said nothing. And I think that's kind of interesting. It was sort of, they said stuff obviously, but they didn't really have like something.

[D]

They were complaining that the Beatles don't have a hard hitting political message. I feel, I feel like we've got plenty of hard hitting political mess.

[C]

Well, nowadays we do. But yeah, now we have Tyler's point. Maybe like if you have this whole sort of malaise with the youth and turning away from traditional values and they're kind of emblematic of that into this like ethereal nothingness that they were leading everybody.

[E]

Yeah, I would agree with that. I actually think the Beatles entire vibe was like. It was almost like don't care about things except for your own emotions. Like, like very self centered.

[C]

Think about. They don't. They don't really have like. You think back some of their lyrics. They didn't really have anything to say. They didn't. And I remember thinking that, that like some of their biggest tracks, I mean like I want to hold your hand. Okay, that was like the. One of the originals. Like, okay, it's a love song, but like you keep going down. As they got more like eclectic and more experimental. I don't really know what the message was. What was the message?

[E]

I think.

[B]

Well, I think does there need to be a message for songs?

[C]

But I think it's like in the cultural context of the time. Yeah, it kind of makes sense that they were leading everybody nowhere.

[D]

So you're saying we should have banned the Beatles from America?

[C]

Thousand percent. Yeah. No, I don't know.

[D]

I just.

[B]

I don't think that art needs to have a message like that. I think it's. It just could just stand on its own, I think.

[C]

Yeah, maybe, maybe. I mean I. I don't think that strong of thoughts about any of this stuff, to be honest. But I mean, listen, I. I think they're very talented. I think to who said it? Whose point? There will never be another Beatles that has that sort of like cultural dominance and you know, Beatlemania and all of this stuff and just the, the song, the songs that they have. There's so many huge hits. Like, I just don't think we'll ever see anything like it again. I just. I don't know, it just does. I kind of resonate with what Tyler's saying on some level because it was. It was a time when kids were turning their backs on traditional values and going to nowhere. It was a road to nowhere.

[B]

Lord of the Rings. Lord of the Rings was their favorite novel.

[E]

I think most importantly, was that any.

[B]

Yes, it is. Go look it up. The hippies loved Lord of the Rings. Lord of the Rings was they. They viewed the hobbits as like the pot smokers. They viewed the hobbits as like the Shire was like a commune that was like communistic. They viewed the Mordor was like the military industrial complex and corporate society and they had to fight against that. And it was always seen up until the movies came out as a vehicle of the left. It was totally embraced by the hippie counterculture movement.

[D]

Yeah, but then they made the movie and it was awesome. So now it's straight and right wing and awesome. Zuzu's petals donated $1 and says sadly, the Beatles became dirty hippies. That's true. Also Zuzu pedal earlier. She said she would. She should. We would ban Adele from the US Is what she said.

[E]

I think. I think that the.

[B]

Oh, no. I'm just. I'm pointing out everyone's here that if we're going to talk about the Beatles impact on culture, we should talk about Lord of the Rings impact on the 60s.

[C]

Hold on, hold on. Can you name me? Jack the. The drummer before the best. Ringo.

[E]

Ringo who?

[B]

Pete Best.

[C]

Yeah, you got it. Did you know that no.

[E]

Ringo. Ringo ended up being.

[B]

There was also Stu Sutcliffe.

[C]

Huh.

[E]

Wow. I didn't know you were such a fan.

[C]

Yeah. Did you know that the Beatles, like, performed all over Europe for, like, years, just being a kind of a journey.

[B]

Yeah,

[D]

they played in Hamburg.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

And that's how they got. That's how they got played every night in ham.

[C]

Every night. Like, for. For hours.

[D]

At least that's the.

[B]

That's the theory. There's actually a couple versions of like, I want to hold your hand in German. Come give me that guy in their

[C]

hand

[B]

that you can actually get with the Beatles singing it.

[C]

Much about the Beatles. Did you engineer this Kanye topic just so we could talk about the Beatles?

[B]

What is it? What was the one. She loves you is like she leaptic or something? Like she lip dick. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

Okay, we're gonna.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[C]

My German socks is a clip too. I should leap. All right, well, hold on. Just to put a final, like, you know, I guess.

[A]

Point.

[C]

Fine point on this topic. See?

[B]

See? Yeah.

[D]

See?

[C]

Leaped.

[B]

Yeah, I was right.

[D]

We have a related topic off of this. We should do that next.

[C]

All right, fine.

[D]

Which is the bigger picture thing? We got it. We got it. The big picture idea is, does the music you like show your IQ? And the answer is, the science is settled. 150%. Yes. Your favorite band reveals how smart you are.

[C]

Really?

[D]

Yes.

[C]

So what if your favorite band is not?

[D]

Let's throw up. Throw up. Number 12. This is the chart that was made. It's. No one's gonna be able to read it, I suppose, but it's. Someone, like, did a big. I think they compared what your SAT score, your SAT score average would be versus the band you list as your favorite.

[E]

So where the Beatles. Where the Beatles at?

[D]

Let's go check this one. It's. I don't buy Here you can see some of the dumb ones.

[E]

So you. The most. The most famous, most impactful band in the history was not on this.

[C]

No, the Beatles are on that, right?

[E]

They have.

[D]

Yeah, the Beatles. The Beatles are definitely on here. I just. If there's a lot of bands on this list, the highest iq, the highest SAT score by a mile, actually is Beethoven. Some other bands that. Some other bands that finish high is Counting Crows. I don't even know who that is.

[C]

You don't know who the count.

[D]

I mean, I've heard of them.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

The dumbest one. The dumbest straight. Oh, gosh. The dumbest artist is Lil Wayne.

[C]

That wasn't their, like, big hit.

[E]

Their biggest hit was.

[D]

What is that the Kiss, the girl from.

[C]

Yeah, that was the Little Mermaid.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

The Beatles.

[D]

The Beatles are probably about 60. The Beatles are pretty high. The Beatles look like they're about like 75th, 80th percentile. They're an SAT of about.

[C]

Yeah, there they are.

[D]

1140.

[E]

No, but round Here by the County Crows is one of the best songs ever.

[B]

Ever written. Why is U2 so high?

[D]

Because British, if you're listening to them,

[C]

you Irish, you apparently have more refined tastes.

[D]

I don't know.

[C]

I don't know.

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

Why here's my problem is when I looked at this list, I was like, my. My. Most of my bands that I probably listen to are not on this. Keep the.

[D]

Keep the B roll scrolling so the listeners can see it and identify where their bands are on there. Bop Bop Argumnon. Which is an amazing username. I must. Yonan, that's awesome. Says that Counting Crows equals complaining Rock.

[C]

It is complaining.

[D]

That's great.

[C]

That's called like Mr. Jones and me. It was great. The month, December is definitely more of a Counting crows.

[E]

And that 90s vibe that. Like that early 90s, that. That was the. The mother of all emo music.

[C]

Yeah, the bands. Just so you're looking at the screen, the bands on the left are dumb and the bands on the right.

[D]

So if you're. If you're a Taking Back Sunday fan, you're kind of done here.

[C]

I look Switch Foot. I do not agree that if you like Switch Foot, you're as dumb as a Maroon 5 fan.

[D]

Well, deal with it. This is science.

[B]

So anyway, I don't like either.

[D]

We actually had all of us like

[B]

any of that stuff.

[D]

We had all of us look at this list and submit their top five so we can finally determine.

[C]

This is much clearer than the thing I was looking at. I couldn't even read Half the.

[B]

Why is Aerosmith so low? That's weird.

[C]

Well, it's not low. I think it's just like it matters on the left to right axis. The Y axis here does not mean. That's what I'm saying.

[B]

Like, why is it so left.

[C]

Look at this.

[B]

Super left.

[D]

Super Beyonce is for dumbs. It's confirmed. But anyway, we did have everyone sign off their list, so let's. Let's go through it. How about we do. Let's do Tyler first because he was last getting in. And, you know, they say the last shall be first. So we've got Tyler's list. What. What are his top five? Let me see something.

[C]

Corporate Jimmy Eat World, System of a Down.

[E]

That's not. That's not mine. It's not. No, that. That wasn't. Those aren't the ones I. I didn't have.

[D]

What are the ones?

[E]

It was something. Corporate Jimmy World, Yellow Card, Counting Crows,

[D]

and I can't Remember. We have an inaccurate Tyler top five. That's not gonna cut it.

[C]

Yeah, it's. That was.

[E]

That might have been my circle.

[C]

All right, on to the next one.

[D]

All right, let's go to. Let's go to Jax. What's Jack's top five? We have Radiohead, the Beatles. Okay, so he loves this hippie pagan band.

[C]

Let it be noted it's overtly pagan.

[D]

Overtly pagan band. David Bowie. We've seen Labyrinth. That's a big movie.

[C]

David Bowie. I. I'm into these. We have Nirvana. I like your Metallica. I like your list.

[D]

Nirvana.

[B]

This is my list out of, like, what's on here. Because, like, I'm a huge. I'm a huge Smashing Pumpkins fan. And I don't see the Pump. I didn't see the Pumpkins anywhere on there. So that would be my.

[C]

So far to the left Jack, that you must have missed it.

[B]

No, actually, they were so far to the right.

[E]

Right.

[C]

They're off the.

[B]

They're just beyond. They just blew the bell curve.

[C]

Yeah. I. Okay, so I like Radiohead. I. I like some of the Beatles song. I'm not like a Beatles, like, fanatic. David Bowie, I like his movies better than his music. Nirvana, like them. Metallica, like that.

[B]

Bowie's phenomenal. Bowie's. I got to see him a ton.

[C]

The thing is, I just. I never really. I never really have absorb David Bowie, but maybe I'll have to go back and visit.

[E]

That's pretty high score.

[C]

I've heard. I've certain. I've heard David Bowie song.

[D]

All right, do we have do we have an Andrew? Make one. All right, Andrew, we've got Bob Dylan. Do you just love band like singers who are out of key.

[E]

Oh wow.

[C]

I.

[D]

How does it feel?

[C]

So here I like Bob Dylan for a lot of reasons actually. The guy who married me is a guy named Don Williams. Me and my wife.

[D]

A guy married you?

[C]

Sorry, that did come out wrong. The pastor who married my wife and I wrote a book about Bob Dylan and his Christian faith. And so that sent me down a whole rabbit trail where I started listening to Bob Dylan song. So I became a really big Bob Dylan song just lyrically obviously his voice

[D]

was, you know, trouble in.

[C]

It was not. Was not perfect by the way. And then I ended up dating a girl in. When I was, I don't know, like 25, I think. And her family house was right next to where Bob Dylan's house was in Point Doom in. In Malibu. And so I. It's very. Anyway, I just got into Bob Dylan. It's a long story. Pearl Jam loved them. Seattle band you love.

[D]

So you have Bob Dylan. So you like singers who are.

[C]

I went to University of Washington and then.

[D]

You like grunge?

[B]

Yeah. Pearl Jam is like the most left wing band in the planet.

[C]

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[D]

Well, I guess I can't escape from having my list, although mine is definitely the toughest. I was the one who, like, bit the bullet and just circled, like, the genre ones, which. Yeah, like, classic rock.

[B]

Queen. Wait a minute. I don't think I actually saw Queen on the list.

[D]

I might want to remember, because your musical choices are so. Are so dumb. You can't.

[C]

Techno. No.

[D]

Not tech. So I listened to an absolute crapload of synthwave music.

[B]

You literally have, like, that's all that

[D]

fantasy, like, fake 80s music that they made.

[C]

And I listened to tons of circle classic rock. That's.

[D]

But I did just circle classic rock.

[C]

That's faking.

[D]

And then I had Metallica there. I mean, overall, my choices are dumb, but luckily, like, Green Day, I didn't really like a lot. I really don't listen to a lot of these bands, which is why it's a good thing, because I came out with, you know, frankly, let's just say the lowest IQ average on what's funny.

[C]

I like pretty dumb music, which is funny. Hold on, hold on.

[D]

The thing is, is they did just do an updated version of the study today that added one band. Throw it up. We have the number one actual list and. Come on. Throw it up. Throw it up. You don't have it? I sent it to you guys. Oh, you guys are killing me. Well, I'm gonna have to hold you guys in suspense and filibuster until they have it ready to go.

[E]

Five are the lowest IQ of all.

[D]

They are. But there's a new number one IQ spot.

[E]

Isn't that weird, though, that you are. You are kind of viewed as the smartest person here, and you. You have the lowest IQ list.

[D]

I actually do genuinely kind of like slightly dumb music, I must say.

[C]

You like. You like Beyonce.

[E]

Like, you probably do have the highest IQ of all of us. That's probably true. Okay.

[D]

Finally. All right, they got it. So breaking new science came in. And actually, the highest IQ band by a long shot is Megadeth featuring Dave Mustaine.

[C]

Did you get.

[D]

We have songs like Peace Sells, but who's buying?

[C]

We have Rust in Peace. We get some Mega death.

[D]

Yeah, do. Do like Symphony of Destruction or Tornado of Souls or something. Those are. Those are both good ones.

[B]

Same, baby.

[C]

This is shocking stuff.

[D]

Yeah, so that's, like, by far all the way to the right. It's to the right of Beethoven. Even the highest IQ band by a mile is Holy crash metal pioneers who did study just.

[C]

Okay, Blake is Now doing air guitar.

[D]

Well, it's like there was a classic article in the Onion which pointed out humanity. Humanity still producing new art. As though Megadeth's Rest in Peace doesn't already exist. Like, really, we could have stopped music. Like, you guys are liking all these 90s bands. Ooh, I love Radiohead. I love Pearl Jam. Here's what happened. In 1990, Megadeth released Rust in Peace. And it had Rust in Peace, Polaris, Holy wars, the punishment due, hangar 18, tornado of souls. It had all of those on one album.

[C]

This feels.

[D]

We really didn't need any more music after that.

[A]

No.

[B]

But Andrew.

[C]

Fairly self indulgent.

[B]

Did you know that? Did you know that the. So Dave Mustaine was from Megadeth, was the original guitarist of Metallica?

[C]

I didn't know that.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

That's cool.

[B]

So specifically, if you listen to the Metallic. Their first album, Kill Them All. A lot of those, like, songs, the riffs, the solos, even though it's Kirk Hammett, I believe, who actually plays on the album, a lot of that was written by Dave Mustaine. So, like the early Metallica stuff and Megadeth, like, kind of have the same origin, basically. But he was fired by Metallica.

[C]

Why?

[D]

Because he was kind of crazy drinking.

[C]

Kind of crazy.

[B]

A lot of drinking.

[C]

Yeah, I guess. I guess. Why do bands break apart? It's also why when Yoko Ono. I bet you know all the Yoko Ono lore.

[D]

Let's see, we've got.

[C]

I do.

[B]

But, you know, I think a lot of it's highly exaggerated. Honestly, I really do.

[C]

I think they were just burned out, man. They went hard for like, what was it? What was their. What was the Beatles years?

[B]

It was 10 years, 1960 to 1970.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[D]

I like.

[C]

That's a heck of a XY Guy.

[D]

XY Guy is responding. Beethoven, Bach, Handel put all of these lists to shame. That's true. And then he says lead singer from Rush ain't no dummy. But if he was a proper Rush fan, XY Guy should be named YYZ Guy.

[E]

So you change your worker, bro. Did we have the updated in my list? I want to see what my numbers were compared to.

[C]

Your average is probably somewhere around 10.

[E]

Counting crows brings me. Brings me up high Cuz Counting Crows is 1214 Point Rock the blinking yellow card really pull me down.

[D]

I have never heard of something corporate in my life. Is this some.

[E]

Oh, my gosh. Something corporate's incredible.

[B]

I've heard the name, but I couldn't tell you anything. They do now.

[E]

You know, you probably Know that. That song? Oh, I'm thinking Jack's Mannequin because it turned into Jack's Mannequin.

[D]

I've never heard of Jack's Mannequin either.

[E]

It was something corporate.

[D]

Chances are, if I've heard any of these bands, I'll only have heard them because they were on a Tony Hawk's Pro Skater soundtrack. Were any of these guys on Tony Hawk's Pro Skater soundtrack?

[E]

I don't know if any of these were.

[B]

I. I know someone who was Yellow card.

[C]

Myla.

[B]

Primus. Jerry was a race car driver.

[C]

Yeah, hold on. I don't know.

[E]

But this is all, like, punk. This is all punk. Emo. Corporate postal service is.

[B]

Where. Where's Primus? How come Primus isn't on the list?

[C]

Primus sucks.

[E]

And it really.

[C]

I. I picked rock Princess.

[E]

I picked. Yeah, Punk rock.

[C]

Oh, geez. Oh.

[D]

Oh.

[E]

Punk rock Prince.

[B]

Wait a minute. Wait a minute.

[E]

Garage band king.

[C]

I'm getting hit by ads. I'm just trying to.

[D]

Getting wrecked by ads.

[B]

Wait a minute.

[E]

Oh, I woke up in a car. I woke up in a car. Oh, I woke up in a car.

[C]

I don't recognize it. All right.

[E]

You know. You don't recognize that. That's like California.

[D]

That's like California rock.

[C]

I didn't grow up in corporate.

[D]

Yeah, I didn't grow up in California either. More to the point, I have avoided California my entire life.

[C]

Yeah,

[D]

this is something corporate.

[E]

Yeah, something corporate. This is great. This is great music, by the way.

[D]

All of these bands. All of these bands sound the same. It's like, I'm gonna play on this guitar.

[E]

Actually. Actually, something corporate was. Is actually what my wife and I danced to our. As our song.

[C]

It's called American Guitar right now. This is the first.

[B]

It's actually my fretless acoustic bass.

[C]

Oh, fretless acoustic bass.

[D]

Fretless, yeah.

[B]

It's kind of like out of tune, though.

[D]

Is that like a Guitar Hero controller?

[E]

So I have a theory about all these. All these IQs. I actually think it's more based off of the timetable. So the more popular someone was in a certain era probably made you more smart.

[B]

Go on.

[E]

So some of that 90s. So some of that 90s music, like Pearl Jam was pretty up there, wasn't it? Pearl Jam.

[B]

I would. I would. I would say it's the opposite. I think that's a lagging indicator. I think that a smarter population likes smarter music. So the. The popularity getting. Of dumb music getting better means you have more dumb people.

[E]

I think it could be a combination of both. So you have eras of smarter people. Like people were really stupid in the 60s.

[C]

I will say, like people were stupid, but actually the population was still like closer to. To the traditional values. The things that made America great. They had like remnant smarts. So if you listen to the lyrics of like classic rock or you know, rock in the 60s, I mean, it was elevated more so it was more musically complex.

[D]

Do you know about that? They had more key changes, more time signature changes. There's more musical variety. There's more dynamic range. Like you'll have music that is quiet and then loud. It'll have a wider range. For some reason, they compress all their music. Like music is very refined and simplified. It's almost like it's actually kind of like what they do with drugs or fast food. They figure out how to make it more addictive and catchy. Yet as a result it's extremely simplified. And you don't get truly transcendent.

[C]

Talking about now.

[D]

Yes.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. Well, it's because it's. It's the Walmart ification.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Of it's the big boxification of American music.

[D]

And it's gonna be even worse because now we can write catchy pop beats with AI and there's already hit AI music on Spotify and all of that. But I think eventually we're just gonna. It's just gonna be a matter of course that the pop star is just maybe going to be a brand and you'll have a lot of AI generated fluff for the songs on their albums because who cares? I bet there's tons of AI going into K pop music right now.

[C]

But if you like Caboose to Blake's Point, play the Chain by Fleetwood Mac, 1977. There's the dynamic range that you're talking about all over the place. I do think there is sort of timing changes in it as well. If you compare the Chain by Fleetwood Mac, 1977. Yeah, but.

[D]

But I mean, we're not gonna have

[C]

time to listen to Dark eight Minutes.

[B]

A great song.

[C]

It's such a good song.

[D]

It is a good song.

[C]

But like. Okay, so. But like. And then you go to. You had that quick, by the way. Caboose. He's very good. Okay, so. But then. Then there's a. Different parts of the song is what I'm saying. It's the complexity of that song will be anything modern music. Well, that's like.

[E]

That's like Bob Dylan, right? Yeah, that's like. I mean. But I. That actually. That actually supports the Bob Dylan theory.

[C]

On the. I think Bob Dylan's like really smart music.

[D]

You know what I would say?

[C]

Poetry.

[D]

What I would say is interesting. If you think of Bob Dylan Tower, you think of the standard song. So many songs are basically verse, chorus, verse, chorus, bridge and then like the chorus again or something. When you think of the songs that are most likely to top a list of the absolute best songs in rock history or musical history, have you ever noticed almost none of them seem to actually follow that format. So I remember growing up well.

[C]

So.

[D]

Yeah exactly. Bohemian Rhapsody doesn't follow that. Don't Stop Believing doesn't follow that. Stairway to Heaven doesn't follow that. All three of those are irregular progressive songs. Progressive in terms of. They just change throughout. I find that interesting.

[B]

But you can't just say that like just because something breaks the mold. Like means it's going to be good or it's going to be popular. Because like go look at like Tool for example. Like nothing. Nothing that tool puts out, you know, fits that and has tons of time changes. Danny Carey, you know, on drums, like is known for time changes. But it, you know that's not like quote unquote super popular.

[E]

But. But Blake's point is actually a really good one because I and I've never really thought about it this. Some of my favorite songs of my favorite artists.

[C]

It's a good.

[E]

Are non traditional.

[C]

I haven't thought about this.

[E]

Like Jimmy World one of my favorite songs ever is Goodbye sky harbor and it follows it's that same same thing

[D]

like Top Guns and Roses songs. November Ram has an irregular structure. Hammers and Strings Sweet Child of Mine has an irregular structure.

[E]

Now the my favorite so I'm thinking about it.

[D]

American Pie is still verse chorus. It's just really long.

[E]

Some of my favorite. Some of my favorite songs ever have been totally right.

[C]

I mean that. The fact that it's really long though breaks sort of like so speaking of

[E]

like I think it lends to longer songs do follow that. Like so the irregularity creates longer songs because they have different.

[D]

Yeah we've got a good flow to this. So to get into our third topic. So you mentioned was something corporate your dance song at your wedding or what was your first dance song. Okay.

[C]

And was.

[D]

So that was that. What was your first dance song?

[C]

Something corporate Hurricane acoustic Get me in trouble.

[D]

Oh no, no, no.

[C]

Like I think it was something like really. So we had a great musical like wedding. I mean we had great music. We had a live band and all this stuff. But I think our first dance song was like Pretty sappy.

[D]

And that's fine.

[C]

Jason Mraz.

[D]

How about. How about you, Jack? What's your first dance?

[E]

So you didn't pick it?

[B]

So we did, like, two. We did, like, a slow song and a fast song.

[E]

Interesting.

[B]

So we did. And the slow song was oh, My Love by John Lemon. And then the fast song was. Wait, what's it actually called? Like, Wake Me up by Whammy.

[D]

Oh, that's a great one. Jitterbug. I love that song.

[B]

That's what it's called. Wake me up. Right? Yeah.

[D]

Wake me up before you go. Go. I don't, of course, have one. I do know my parents. My parents was. May I have this dance for the rest of my life by whoever did that song.

[B]

Jitterbug.

[C]

So now that you're talking about weddings.

[D]

So we have to. We asked that we're going to the dirty underbelly of this, which is story in the New York Times, where the New York Times loves to write about trends that are. Oh, wait. Actually, it was people mag. Never mind. I just left to be up in the New York Times. Anyway, so what it is is there is a new trend that they're profiling because they want it to happen, just like polyamory. And it's women throwing wedding parties for themselves when they turn 40, when they are not actually getting married. So it's a fake wedding level blowout for turning 40. And this trend is, if not sweeping America, it's at least sweeping the pages of People magazine and sweeping your timeline on X to propagandize to prove you

[C]

don't need a partner to celebrate yourself.

[B]

Man.

[C]

What?

[E]

You know, so they're throwing, like. Like 40th birthday parties that are. That are made to look like weddings.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

What you're saying. Yeah, it's like a fake wedding.

[C]

These women devoted themselves to, like, corporate ladder climbing. And so they may not have a partner, but they probably have enough money to throw a very extravagant, expensive party wedding.

[E]

I can't even picture this. Can I see a video of this?

[B]

Do we have every day. We have. Yes, I think we have video.

[E]

Can I please see this? Yes, I can.

[C]

Spiritual soul rot on display.

[D]

We actually have a lot. But I think, you know, people.

[B]

People get on me for saying that we need. You know, I've never actually said that we need a new Franco, but, man, you see stuff like this, and it's, like, overtly pagan.

[C]

Legitimately.

[D]

Yeah. All right, so we're told to start. We have several clips to let Tyler understand this. Let's play clip five.

[E]

I can't even picture this.

[F]

This weekend I'm throwing myself a wedding birthday. It's my own wedding, son's husband at a manor in the British country side. For my 40th, you know, I never had a wedding, so I was like, how do I celebrate the biggest way possible? A princess.

[D]

Shut up.

[F]

Here's the itinerary. Black tie, first night, everyone's wearing black. And then I will be in a white gown. Tablescape, very salt burn, moody red lights. Think dripping candles, figs, grapes. Then we'll party in the living room like an aristocrat. Next morning is Princess Diana themed. British countryside shooting day. Don't worry, we're just using clay. Very Ralph Lauren. Plus it just rains all the time here. So finally, the birthday night. Studio 54 vibe. Glitter sequins, just over the top, everything.

[D]

I really.

[E]

Wait, why did it end with like a gay dance party at the end

[D]

for all of her gay friends?

[E]

Wouldn't happen in a normal wedding.

[D]

I really genuinely don't know what to make of that. Like, if you got invited to a party like that, do you go?

[E]

No, no, I wouldn't go.

[C]

I mean, listen, I mean, it just

[B]

shows where we're at culturally. It just shows the, you know, the lack. I mean this. I think we all know what Charlie

[E]

would say about this.

[B]

You know, I mean, it just, it just shows where we're at as a society. And you, you would wish and that people have this fulfillment that is being unmet, this, this desire that's being unmet because of their own choices. Because they eschewed family and marriage and child rearing and yet they still want those feelings. And so they've created for themselves this false reality of. It's like the participation trophy, right? Like you didn't actually achieve or commit to a wedding which is supposed to be, you know, a union between two individuals in the sight of man and in the sight of God.

[C]

And instead you're just two individuals to be specific.

[B]

Oh, yeah, yeah, obviously, yes. But, you know, two souls is what I'm trying to say. And the idea here is that it's like there's no unity. There's no union at the part of this other than like you and yourself, right? Like that's what this is. You notice there's no, like, there isn't even a boyfriend. There isn't even a stand in for a husband here. There's no sign of God at all. It's all just a celebration of the self.

[C]

Well, that headline from People magazine where it says you don't Need a partner to celebrate yourself.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

And it turns out there was a New York Times when we had both the New York Times. One is a wedding party. No husband required.

[C]

Yeah, that is a. So is it just this gal, or is this a trend?

[B]

It's like, it's like that, that movie. What's the. The. The Housemaid, right. Where it's just. It's anti marriage, it's anti husband. It's. It's all this, like, hyper feminist gobbledygook, you know, Gaga that's just everywhere today. And, you know, it's like, you don't need a man. You could, like I said, you that, you know, going back. Where do we hear that you don't need a man? Frozen. It was a Disney movie.

[D]

It was a lesbian about Frozen.

[B]

Again, Lesbian propaganda. Here we go. Here we go again.

[C]

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[E]

It's everyone gets a trophy type stuff.

[C]

Well, it's sort of like it's just anti tradition.

[E]

It's, it's like we feel so bad for you or for ourselves that we're just going to give ourselves the things that we feel like. And again, it feels very similar to also like the Disney adult thing where it's like people like living out.

[B]

Yeah, it does. That's exactly right.

[E]

People like. I don't know why that like, like this, like triggered that for me, but it's like people.

[B]

No, yeah, that's 100%. It's the same wavelength, like exact same way.

[E]

They, they didn't get to do it when they were kids or whatever. And so like now they're fulfilling out this like, fantasy of like.

[B]

No, because, because what is that? Right? That's, that's the, you know, millennials with disposable income who haven't achieved those life wickets, those life benchmarks and milestones that you're supposed to hit by certain ages. So by that age you, you typically do have like children and you are then starting to want to bring your kids to, to, you know, do family stuff and yet you don't have that. So it's this infantilization which of course Charlie also talked about the extended adolescence where, where people don't leave it. And so it's like we're going to infantilize ourselves and act like we're children and go to Disney by ourselves.

[D]

We have a great.

[E]

So this, so we have a 40th birthday party is very similar where it's like you're doing something and it's this fantasy of something that you should have probably done at an earlier time period in your life.

[D]

But we've got, we've got.

[E]

You're still omitting just like Disney. Like you don't have the kids with you. You're doing it. It makes you feel good stroking something in your ego.

[D]

I haven't seen this clip, but I can tell it's going to be great. And it's a broken generation. Let's do number eight.

[E]

Okay.

[F]

I'm about to walk down the aisle and this moment is for every little girl and every 20 something and every 30 something that waited their whole lives to get married and maybe it didn't work out and they still wanted to have this moment. So it's my 40th birthday tonight. And I decided to throw a wedding birthday in the British countryside in a manor. It's this huge estate. It's straight out of Downton Abbey. And I had this moment where I thought, I am the first woman in 300 years that has rented this house for herself and celebrated herself.

[D]

I'm gonna object in general. One, probably not. Two, you just shouldn't do a party to celebrate yourself. I think it's self indulgent.

[C]

I would say probably not.

[D]

Even if, even if she was married and everything, I think it would be incredibly self indulgent to just throw a party for yourself. Turning 40 or 50, I think ideally you'd have a spouse and they would organize it and throw it for you. Or it could be your friends would do it. There's, there's ways to do it. But in general, you should not throw parties that are just. I am awesome.

[C]

I just like, I miss like an ethic, a value system in which people just get old and they don't make it about themselves. Like, old people acting old. Yeah, like just, just do something more conventional. And it's so refreshing now when you just see, like, old people becoming adults and then they, like, think about the

[D]

image we have of grannies, you know, loving Grammys and, you know, still live on a farm they're making.

[C]

I was thinking about this.

[D]

Think about how that's all going to Vanish when your 75 year old grandma has tattoos and like boobs and like social media posts that are still out there of her being a bad girl at 22.

[C]

I was thinking about this the other day. So when I was a kid, when we were all kids, think about your grandma. They had like bobbed hair. Like, some of them dyed them, some of it was just gray. And like those women that are now that age now, they've got like long hair, it's dyed, they've got work done. They're like trying to look as young as possible. Our granny, our grannies, like, literally just look like old, old ladies.

[E]

That's like the Golden Girls thing is like, they were like in their 40s and they look like, literally like to us, like, they look like.

[D]

I'm really liking. I am noticing the Golden Girls are

[E]

like literally in their late 40s. And some of those, those, those ladies, they're like. We thought they were like.

[C]

Is that true?

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

Okay, so, okay, the characters were in their 50s and 80s. Blanche was roughly 53. Dorothy and Rose were 55, and Sophia was 79.

[D]

Oh, wow.

[C]

Which one was Sophia? Oh, was Sophia the, like, really, really old one? Yeah, man. I was like, the mom, she wasn't that old.

[E]

You know, I was thinking about with this whole thing is like, how. How offensive it also is to the women who don't do this. Right? Like, they have enough self respect. That's like almost offensive.

[B]

Speaking of Golden Girls, we have to. We have to say the great connection that. So you know who. Do you know who the son of the creator of the Golden Girls is?

[E]

Sky Adams.

[B]

Close. Actually, it's not Scott Adams. No, it's like Sam Harris.

[E]

Oh, really? Okay, Interesting. Wait, so wait, I want to finish my thought. I want to finish my thought on this though. The women who. Who look at this and it actually, I think this is part of the mental illness that makes women feel bad on social media. So you have one woman throwing herself a birthday party that is meant to replicate a wedding. There's plenty of women out there that are unmarried for maybe it's not their own choice. Maybe they just. I mean, I know lots of people, good people.

[C]

Yeah. Couldn't find the right guy.

[E]

Couldn't find the right guy. Whatever. I feel really bad for them. But that person. Seen another person do something like this, I feel like makes it worse for all those people I don't like. To me, it's like. And this is like, this is the same thing with the social media generation. This is like the Disney adult thing. This is about like, people who do the, you know, perfect perfection vacation thing that they put on social media, even though, you know that's probably not true or the perfect house thing or whatever.

[B]

Like, do you remember. Do you remember hanksgiving? Remember we did that a while back? Was the hanksgiving that they all had together. It was like Thanksgiving. Tom Hanks. Yeah, yeah, the same. Same thing.

[E]

But it's just like, it just like, to me, it's just like, I don't think it helps society in general, like, doing these things. And again, it's a free country. Like, do whatever you want. But like, like, there's a bunch of women who follow this woman. She's probably got friends. She probably has a social media following. That's part of the reason why she's doing this.

[C]

And it's like this whole, like, it's this whole trend, you see it with like, shout your abortion, right? Where there's actually shame over something and they're trying to reclaim something that makes them feel shameful to like, be like, I'm just gonna buck the trend and screw the tradition. And I'm gonna. I'm gonna be loud and proud even in my shame.

[E]

That's a perfect transition.

[D]

What if one of them does a like wedding level $80,000 party for their abortion?

[C]

That's pretty sick. That'd be. I bet it's happened actually because you gotta understand like the human condition we have, we sin and therefore we have shame. And if you don't, if you're not a Christian, there's no mechanism to get rid of that shame. And so you try and invent human celebrations or institutions to remove that shame from yourself. So that's all this is. Actually it was interesting. I was having this back and forth. Jack, you know Lisa Booth, right? She's Fox News. So she was kind of, she went on this whole thing about saying that the problem with the right is that we make marriage and family feel like obligatory. So if you are not that you, you feel ashamed or you feel like you're out of the club. And if on the left they demonize marriage and abortion so they don't. She, her point was that there's a bunch of women that don't feel like they belong to either camp when it comes to this issue. And then. But like I think that there's a lot of people that have kids that feel like by the liberal progressive society, they have to feel ashamed or they have to hide their joy or hide their kids or hide all the good things about their family because there's so many women in culture that aren't experiencing this. And so it's just, I don't know what the answer is exactly, but to me it's like if we don't lift up the ideal, you're gonna have a bunch of people like this 40 year old crazy lady that goes flies over and spends $100,000 on a fake wedding for herself because.

[B]

Yeah, no, that's exactly right. And, and it's like again, I mean this, I'll like defer to the man himself, but CK used to talk about this a lot. He said it's not about like forcing anyone to make any one decision or another. It's just talking about what is the greater societal good. And we see through study after studying that marriage, two parent households that with the mom and a dad are always the best outcomes for society. And so if our government or our political movements are going to push for certain things, we should always push for the things that we know are the most beneficial pro social things. Oh, that is a general goal. That doesn't mean it's like every person has to fit.

[C]

I have a Catholic question for you on that kind of same Thought. Does the Catholic Church have a strong position on surrogacy? Like, they don't like it.

[B]

I mean, I can't imagine they're for it. I would have to check.

[D]

It's not.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

Catholics don't even, like, don't. They don't like IVF either.

[C]

Do they have a position?

[B]

I'm sure Catholics are against IVF to begin with.

[C]

So they would. So they would have, they would have a strong position on like a gay couple adopting a kid too.

[D]

Oh, 100% against.

[C]

Because they're against every level.

[B]

Yeah, just double check. I didn't want to, like, speak out of turn, but. Yes, the Catholic Church strictly opposes all forms of surrogacy, viewing it as a grave violation of human dignity, the integrity of marriage and the procreation process.

[C]

I feel the same. I get really weirded out with surrogacy and I can't like. And I. It's like one of those things where you're like.

[B]

It's like buying a child.

[C]

Yeah, it's weird. There's something weird about like renting a womb. I just find it.

[D]

It's weird. I mean, with IVF, the biggest objection is that you basically make 10 human lives and throw nine of them away.

[C]

A bunch of them.

[B]

The Truth program in 20.

[D]

The church would still dislike it if you could just make one. And because they don't like the means.

[C]

What if you were like, hey, we're going to implant 10 embryos, fertilized embryos, and if you have 10, you have

[E]

to keep all they still.

[C]

What if you commit as a good Catholic to saying, I'm going to take all of them?

[D]

It's less bad because you're not throwing lives away intentionally. They still don't like it. The Church's position is quite trad where basically you should only have kids by like the proper, natural, old school way. Yes, they're still okay with adoption, but

[E]

yeah, I think, I think part of the theory with that is that there's so much. Isn't it just like the holiness of, of the, the system that God. That God gave us? And playing God with these things, it's kind of viewed as playing God.

[B]

Well, and it's, it's, it's also, it's. That's part of it too, but it's also about how, how the church always. Has always positioned that the procreative act should take place within the confines of marriage, that the point of marriage is procreation and children and that act of the bringing together of the mother and the father through Marriage and through procreation. And so whenever you're, you know, abrogating that process somehow or, you know, sidestepping it or whatever it may be.

[E]

So you're telling me, Jack, you could have a 40th birthday party, pretend to get married, and then have a kid without ever having sex?

[C]

Wow, that is the liberal way.

[E]

That is the. That is the sex in the city.

[C]

You will own nothing.

[D]

Before we abandon this topic, I'm looking at the New York Times article and there's something very funny. I see. Which they talked to some woman who does consulting for these wedding style 40th birthday parties.

[C]

Oh, so this is a trend. It's not just her.

[D]

Yes, yes. There's a consultant who does real thing. And she says the planning process is more streamlined than a wedding. And such events generally cost just 10 to 30% of a typical wedding budget. So hear me out. Here's an idea. You're planning to get married, but you tell them it's either a 40th birthday fake wedding or a divorce party. Get all the stuff for wedding related things, but you get it cheaper because you didn't say the W word. That doubles the. The price of everything. And then bamo, switcheroo. You have a clergyman there and you bring a guy. Married.

[E]

Yeah, you bring. You bring a guy.

[C]

Do you want to know? It's weird. You want to know Cra. I don't know why this didn't make it to thought.

[B]

Wait, wait, wait.

[E]

No, but can I, you know.

[B]

Funny. No, I was gonna say it'll be funny. Is.

[E]

Is.

[B]

What if you're having one of these, like, fake marriage parties, but you hire the guy, right? Who's. But it turns out the guy's like actually ordained in the state that you're having the party in, and you accidentally get actually married at like the. The fake marriage party, and you're like, wait a minute.

[D]

That sounds like a terrible 90s.

[C]

I was gonna say it sounds like rom com. Sounds like Jason Bateman in this.

[D]

Like, it would get increasingly convoluted and for like, some dumb reason, they are required to also live together for a while.

[C]

Okay, hold on. I have to take this. It's gonna. Oh, you have something. I have a real.

[E]

I have a really important point. I'm sure, and I'm sorry to offend all the women there, but no man would ever do this.

[C]

No, of course not. Oh, wait, a gay man would.

[E]

Okay, okay, well, no, no, Straight.

[D]

Be a different type of party.

[C]

Yeah, I mean, speaking of which. But did you know this?

[E]

But. But this is like. But that's also. It's like what's feeding the egos of women in America today where they like feminism. It's the feminism. It's social media boss, babe.

[C]

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[D]

You really wanted to get into this?

[C]

No, I mean, look, well, it kind of made me think about. We started talking about gay couples getting. Doing adoptions. They're okay. So just to put this like in perspective, they believe in like unlimited Muslims, unlimited Somali fraud, pirate people, bathhouse and bathhouses like Minneapolis. And it's like George Floyd and they

[D]

really are our most Canadian.

[C]

They are the most Canadian city in the, in the country.

[D]

Adult bath houses were a component of nightlife prior to the advent of the AIDS crisis in the 1980s, which led to the passage of numerous ordinances banning them among virtually all U.S. urban areas.

[B]

Hmm.

[D]

Imagine that.

[C]

Yeah. In 1988, Minneapolis passed an ordinance to ban bath houses. There were three bath houses that existed in the city. Hennepin Baths, Locker room baths, and Big Daddy's Bath House.

[E]

Big Daddy's Bathhouse, all of them closed.

[C]

Prior to the ban, Locker room baths was known as the 315 Health Club at the time of closure. Why were they banned? After the first positive HIV test in Minneapolis in 1982, concern grew the about spread of the virus.

[E]

So wait, so, so let me, let me get this straight. So bath houses were pretty much the only place you could go because it

[C]

was so gay men just had sexual encounters at the bathhouse.

[E]

But over, at least in those days, was, like, it was very taboo, like, by cultures, cultural standards. Part of the reason why bath houses existed was because it was so taboo within the community. So, like, just, like, go, like, be gay in public.

[C]

Well, this. Yeah, they had those.

[E]

Well, I think it's part of it. I mean, I think it's a. I think they also have men.

[D]

Yeah, well, like, men.

[B]

Men.

[D]

And then also they would have those parties and they would have sex with them five minutes after meeting.

[E]

Sure.

[D]

That's kind of distinctive behavior.

[E]

Well, that's that true, but that's also, like, pretty. Pretty common in the gay community. But, like, like, they just meet and hook up, and it's a big hookup culture. But here's my question. Is, because they have so many immigrants coming to Minneapolis, is that the reason why they're reintroducing bath houses? Because it's so. It's. It's so taboo within these immigrant cultures to be gay that they need the bath houses?

[C]

I don't know. I think it's just they're going so far left and, like, HIV is not the fear that it once was. Right. Although, you know, then it's gonna be monkeypox.

[D]

Just to make sure people get angry. Did you know that the. A lot of doctors. So do you guys know about antibiotic resistance? Yeah, like, we're not supposed to just take antibiotics all the time because it's a really serious thing, resistant to them. And then we're getting new superbugs, and that's why we have TB that resists it. Did you know that a lot of doctors will just kind of put gay men on antibiotics? Just a regular dose of them. Like, it's, you know, taking a daily aspirin because. Yeah, because, you know, they're. They're prone to getting a lot of diseases, and, you know, we wouldn't want them to get diseases.

[C]

We.

[D]

So we'll just. We'll just chip away at our antibiotic resistance so they can keep going to clubs. Another thing. Did you know that the federal government will find, like, gay prostitute drug addicts and stuff who are at high risk of contracting hiv? And we'll give them free prep, which is the AIDS kind of HIV blocker, prophylactic, keeps it from developing it. Aids, which costs many thousands of dollars a year to take? I think a few years ago it was like $35,000 a year or so, but it's probably less by now.

[C]

Does it make it. So you don't contract it?

[D]

I think it makes it harder to contract it. But it also, even if you have it, it kind of keeps it. It makes it a manageable chronic condition instead of a death sentence. But they will just find people vulnerable to this and the federal government will pay that many thousands of dollars to give it to them for free.

[C]

The federal government is still doing.

[E]

Yes,

[C]

wild. It's like that tax dollars at work. It's like that California law where you. It's like no longer a crime or something that's downgraded if you knowingly spread hiv.

[E]

There's so many, so many. There's federal analogies to things that happen in Lord of the Rings with that

[D]

ready set, press federal program that provides pre exposure prophylaxis medication at no cost to individuals without prescription drug coverage.

[C]

So these guys are just like man whores taking advantage and they get paid by the federal government?

[D]

Yes.

[C]

Geez Louise. The government. Does President Trump know about this? Actually he's like, he's like weirdly pro gay.

[E]

The government.

[C]

He's a New York City guy. I love this article I was reading, by the way. It says adult bath houses are community spaces historically frequented by gay men where people could also engage in sexual activity or relax after going out to the bars.

[D]

Or relax or.

[B]

Have you guys ever been to a bath?

[D]

No, but the bros.

[C]

Thank God. I mean, I think I've been like, is there a difference?

[E]

Jack in Eastern European. Was in Eastern Europe. Was in Eastern Europe.

[B]

It was in Hungary. Yeah.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

It's different, I guess, like Central Europe. So I've been, I've been to bathhouse in Budapest.

[C]

Yeah, but it's. Isn't it different in the culture surrounding it? Is, is different or is it the same?

[D]

It depends. Some. Some are gay stuff and some are.

[B]

I mean this is like when you go to Budapest, like bath houses and you know that it's like, it's like. Yeah, it's like a hot spring thing. So like you go in and it's, you know, it's co ed. So like I went with Tanya and it's. I don't know, it was kind of like going to like a community pool, but it was in like a. Yeah, you know, it's like a hot springs kind of deal. So like they have that. They have it Idaho as well. They have like hot springs. You can just go to the coolest one.

[E]

You know the phrase in Russian, Jack, that they say for the bathhouse?

[B]

No.

[E]

Slochian param.

[B]

What is it like?

[E]

It's like. It basically translates to like have an easy steam or have a nice steam.

[B]

Okay,

[E]

you say that to people when they're. They're house considered.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

The coolest thing in. Since he does mention it. In Budapest, they do have a giant bath house. It's the session bath house. And it's like, looks. It's from the 1800s. So it's this big palace, you know, with Bell epoch architecture.

[C]

Should bring it. Get a picture.

[D]

And what's cool about it especially. I went to Budapest in February, so it was cold out. But it is a mineral bath. And so is that the one that's

[B]

like the out the Blake is.

[D]

That has a big outdoor pool. And so if it's cold, it's still open.

[B]

I know what you're talking about.

[D]

It's still 105 degrees or whatever the temperature is of a hot spring. And it's just steaming like crazy the whole time because it's cold out and just spraying it out.

[C]

It's like a resort in the Bahamas or something.

[E]

It's more of like again, that. That culture Eastern Europe is. It's more of like a public pool.

[C]

Yeah. This is not. This doesn't seem.

[E]

It's more like public pools and like. And it's almost like. Okay, it's almost like a hot spray.

[C]

Hold on. We have to transition. Even though this is. This has been.

[B]

For the record, we went to the Gellert.

[C]

This has been weird, but we have to try something. This could be awful. So we apologize in advance, but we're gonna try something new here because we want to bring you guys into the culture of the office, actually. And Blake often comes up with random, bizarre, obscene. Would you Rathers.

[D]

Oh, dear.

[B]

He does. It's true.

[E]

I don't even know what this is.

[C]

All right, so would you rather. Would you rather Blake give us some. Would you rather.

[D]

You know, I have one. I'm just making up off the fly. Would you rather go to one of those newly open Minneapolis bath houses and you don't have to do anything. You can just kind of sit there. But you have to sit there for the whole evening. Or go to one of these 40 year old single woman weddings.

[C]

I'm gonna go to the 40 year old single.

[D]

What if it's really sad? What if she's like insanely unwell and desperate?

[B]

Go to the wedding.

[C]

I'm going to the way I like. Anything to avoid.

[D]

There's probably free food at the wedding. So that is a good.

[C]

Yeah, that's a good. Blake's weak spot is free.

[D]

All right. All right. So yeah, that was. That was.

[C]

Come on. That was not that good.

[D]

That was a Weak one. That was a weak one. So we actually had. There's kind of that. There's that classic one people have asked that's like, would you rather have a gay son or like a kind of thought daughter? But I thought of a kind of. We developed that into a more interesting one, I think. Would you rather have a sort of loose daughter or a loser son? Like, they're a big time loser, don't have a job, can't.

[C]

Does my daughter grow out of it?

[E]

Eventually.

[D]

And we can't speak to that.

[B]

I would say that's a loser behavior for both, by the way.

[D]

It 100% is.

[C]

So I would say, gosh, that is hard. Actually. I would say probably the daughter, because I'm gonna, like, take her to church and try and help her.

[E]

She never gets better, though.

[D]

She starts. She starts. She gets.

[E]

She starts influencing others.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Jack doesn't have.

[D]

She leads the people at church astray. She has an affair with the pastor.

[C]

So he's gonna pick the daughter because it's like.

[B]

I know. I would actually say loser son. I would actually say loser son because I feel like. I feel like that'd be easier to fix than. Than having a thought daughter.

[E]

It never gets better, though, Jack. You just have to live with a loser son or.

[B]

No, you didn't say that. You didn't stipulate it never gets better.

[C]

Would you.

[D]

I said I couldn't speak to that.

[C]

Would you rather have a Canadian daughter or a. I don't know where I'm going with this address. Wanted to make fun of. I'm just thinking about the. What was it? The WWI gb?

[B]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[D]

You know, gosh. Mmi. Well, we can't worry about that one later. No. So we got a split the chat one. Someone in the chat says they would take the loser son. Someone says I was the loser son. Okay, so that's. That's a good point towards getting better.

[C]

See, you can't get better. But Tyler looked at me and goes,

[E]

she never gets there.

[B]

All right, look, the loser son, the fail son can be fixed. I mean, look at Tyler like he's. He's come so far.

[D]

Totally a related one. And this is. This one I think is really interesting. Would you rather have your daughter marry a Muslim? But it's like a totally normal marriage. They have their kids in wedlock, all of that, but she is married to a Muslim man. Or pump and dump, trashy single mom. You know, three kids, three different dads.

[C]

What? Your daughter is.

[D]

Yeah, this is your daughter. And both of Them and one of them. We don't even. We don't even need to say three. It could just be what's like she's just. She gets knocked up and abandoned by the dad.

[C]

Baby daddies.

[D]

Or even just one. She gets knocked up and abandoned by the dad and she's a single mom or marries a guy and has kids normally. But is a Muslim.

[E]

Practicing Muslim.

[D]

Yes. Yeah. Avid Muslim goes.

[C]

You go first on this one.

[B]

Oh, man.

[C]

Is she a good say.

[B]

I'll say. I'll say in this, in my, in my case because I feel like the gender doesn't matter on this one. You could say like son and then, you know, multiple women. Or you know, it definitely makes it

[C]

worse if it's like a woman.

[B]

I mean it makes it makes it worse obviously. So wait, in. In this sense, are the single. Are they all. Are they all Christian? The. The single relationships or whatever?

[D]

Well, I would say. I would say if she's the single mom, you can assume she is either. Yeah, she's either Christian but not following the rules. Well. Or maybe non religious. But the other. She's. She's converting to Islam.

[C]

Oh, she's converting to Islam. Oh, then I'll. I'll do the.

[B]

The single single every time.

[C]

Single.

[D]

All right. Or at least. Or would it make a difference if she wasn't Muslim. But he did raise the kids Muslim.

[C]

That still. Still single.

[D]

Yeah, I think I definitely got to go for that one.

[C]

And didn't you have a fire?

[D]

I had a couple item one. Oh, man. What was that? Oh, I guess.

[C]

Is that. Is that.

[D]

I can't remember what the Brian gnome one was.

[C]

It was a good point. Anyways, this is. This is. I don't know if. Do you guys want us to keep doing. Would you rather.

[D]

I can do a weirder one. I can do a weirder one.

[B]

No. Would you Rathers are good. In fact, what we should do is we should open the Would you Rathers up to like the. The rumble rants. And so have. We should. What we should do going forward is have people like when we start the send your best.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

You know, send us your would you Rathers. And then in the last segment we'll, you know, we'll do them.

[D]

We've done a lot of musical themed ones, so I do want to do one on that. On that front because we talked about this.

[C]

Would you rather see how he does this?

[D]

Would you rather get a new album from your all time favorite band? And just for the hypothetical, it's. It comes out. It's at the peak of their quality from your point of view. And it's a 10 out of 10 album.

[C]

So it's new content.

[D]

Yeah. So, yeah, it's new. So, like, let's say your favorite band was Guns N Roses. It comes out 1989, and it's 10 out of 10, and it's 12 new songs that are as good as any Guns n Rose songs ever. Or just get rid of your least favorite genre of music completely. So, like, rap disappears forever.

[C]

I would definitely get rid of the worst genre.

[D]

You would get rid of the worst. You don't need to listen to the worst genre.

[C]

Yeah, but it's terrible for culture.

[E]

There's so many bad genres, though. That's like, just getting rid of one doesn't really. Yeah.

[D]

Like, you might get rid of rap, and then we just get the. You know, it's all R and B everywhere.

[C]

Something R B is actually great. I'll take R. R B is phenomenal.

[E]

I would take rap over R B any day of the week.

[C]

No way. Yeah. Rap. Well, I'm thinking like, gangster rap. I'm thinking like thug culture.

[B]

Drill rap.

[D]

What if it was only, like, sub genre? So you could not get rid of all rap, but maybe only gangster rap or drill.

[C]

Got one here. Canadian. Mm, I2. LGBTQIA plus or whatever it is. Daughter or AOC. Daughter.

[D]

That's the same thing. That is the same ABC daughter.

[B]

Not even hard.

[C]

I mean, she's a congresswoman. She's a congresswoman.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

So, I mean, it's not like, oh,

[D]

you'd get over it if. If your lib daughter became the president.

[C]

I mean, that's. That is.

[D]

You'd be like, oh, this is so great. I'm so proud of my daughter who

[C]

joined Congress to pursue evil Dang ludicrousness. One. That is. It's a deeper question than you. Than you probably intended. Yeah, I. I don't. I don't know.

[B]

Actually, you know, it would be funny in general. It would be funny to say, what about, like, what if you switch it up and you say, okay, this doesn't really make sense. But, like, what a conservative child who is not successful, but a liberal child who is successful at, like, liberal politics

[C]

gonna go conservative child not successful.

[E]

That kind of took me to, like. I was actually right before you said that. I thought you were gonna say this as, would you rather have gay child who's conservative or straight child who is, like, ultra, ultra, ultra lib?

[C]

How many.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Grandchildren do they give me?

[E]

They both give you the same amount.

[C]

Wait, we gay? You Said gay conservative. No, I was asking how many gay

[E]

child who's ultra conservative or a straight child who is ultra lib. And they never change.

[C]

But I can never change their grandkids. I could convince the grandkids they both have grandkids. No, no, I mean, I'm saying I could. Even if you have a lib child, you could get the grandkids if they're married and have kids and stuff like that. You could get them to be conservative.

[E]

All their kids are exactly what they are.

[C]

Wait, so the gay guy has kids, they're gay conservative.

[E]

They're all gay. It's a bunch of Scott Pressler. I'll take the lib and then the lib. The lib kids are all the super.

[C]

Scott Pressler's done. Done a lot of good things.

[E]

You know, that's what I'm saying. Like, there's a lot of people who love, like, the gay conservatives.

[C]

I don't know. I don't know. That's tricky. This has been fun. Do you guys like it? Do you want us to keep doing it?

[D]

That's the question I can come up with Infinity hypo.

[C]

So, like, there's something weird about Blake's autistic, like, a. Like, Dartmouth brain that he just, like, this is what he does.

[D]

Would you rather get every single quarter anywhere in the world that's put into a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles arcade game machine, of which there are several, or would you rather have the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles be real.

[C]

Real autism alert.

[D]

Yeah, I feel like. I feel like you don't have a soul if you don't want the Turtles to be real fighting evil doers in New York City.

[C]

Listen, what does it profit a man to gain the whole world but to lose the Ninja Turtles?

[D]

Exactly.

[C]

Exactly.

[D]

A lot of people I know, they just pick the. They just pick the money.

[E]

I love Ninja Turtles because they're the only real legitimate superheroes that aren't from a major company, like comic wing that have survived in America. They're, like, the only ones that actually, like, are, like, celebrated. And look, you.

[C]

You understand the Ninja Turtles. Like, Jack understands the Beatles.

[E]

Oh, Ninja Turtles. Ninja Turtles.

[B]

However, though, isn't that wasn't. Weren't the Turtles technically supposedly based off of Daredevil?

[D]

Yeah, who cares?

[B]

Is the same. The same mutagen that gave Matt Murdock his powers was also the. The. The accident that led to them, you know, converting.

[D]

I mean, they're a parody. It started as a parody.

[C]

The parody. All right, but listen, we got to wrap Jack. This has been fun, you guys has been fun. Jack, take us home.

[B]

Ladies and gentlemen. Go out there and commit more thought crime.

[E]

That was a nice long episode.

[D]

Went to a lot of places with that one.

[E]

That was a good time.

[C]

That went all over the place.

[E]

I feel like there's, like, music for a lot. There's, like, clips from these things that,

[B]

like, we're gonna have to live for

[E]

the rest of our lives, that people are going to school at some point. It's just gonna be like, when did I say that?

[D]

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