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Charlie Kirk
Hey, everybody. Thunder. Charlie Kirk Show. Thought crime. We talk about my appearance and cameo on South Park. What should we think about that? And also we dive into the Sydney Sweeney story. Email us. As always, freedomarliekirk.com Become a member today. Members.charliekirk.com and subscribe to our podcast. Buckle up, everybody. Here we go. Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
Blake
Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus. I want you to know we are.
Charlie Kirk
Lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
Jack Posobiec
Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.
Producer Andrew
I want to thank Charlie. He's an incredible guy. His spirit, his love of this country. He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point usa.
Charlie Kirk
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Jack Posobiec
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard to another edition of Thoughtcrime Thursday. Happy Thought Crime Thursday. Jack Posobic. Hugh here. Charlie Kirk will be joining us in a second. A lot of thought crimes this week, especially some which involve Charlie Kirk directly. Actually, that's pretty much every week. But riding side saddle, of course, we've got the great Blake and also producer Andrew. What's up, guys?
Hugh
Howdy, Jack.
Blake
What's going on, Jack?
Jack Posobiec
Once. I think we're all going to be remote. This is. This is a rare occurrence for us.
Blake
Blake is in an undisclosed location in a bunker somewhere.
Producer Andrew
Yeah.
Hugh
Even worse, it's a Bunker in Washington, D.C. yeah, I don't. I don't recommend it.
Blake
Swamp creature. That means you and Jack are actually relatively close by.
Jack Posobiec
Yeah, yeah.
Blake
We.
Jack Posobiec
We talked about actually seeing if we could get the logistics to work to be together, but it just. Just didn't. I. I didn't realize he was in town and I had, like, family stuff going on, so it didn't work. But one day. One day we'll all be here together. But the. The. The big story, right? The big story that I think of the week that we've all got to get into, and it's just. It's ubiquitous. It's everywhere. Everyone's talking about it. I'd like to say that we sort of, you know, called this shot a full year ago here on Thought Crime. It's Sydney Sweeney. It is this Sydney Sweeney ad that is completely taken over the universe. People are calling it out as Nazi propaganda. Sydney Sweeney has good genesis. Of course. He's playing, you know, paying homage, I guess you could say, to a Brooke Shields ad from 1980 and where, you know, there's a very similar monologue. And they're using a pun, of course. Jeans. And jeans with the J and the G and the left is. Is in. I have to say, they're just in complete meltdown mode over this. They are completely losing their minds. And again, by the way, this is just a commercial, right? It's. It is a commercial. And I, I love this because. And, and Blake, I want to throw it to you because whenever the right used to get upset about, say, like, Dylan Mulvaney or one of these things, wouldn't they always say, oh, it's just a commercial. Oh, it's just a commercial. Right. And I would argue, I guess, that these things aren't just commercials. These are ubiquitous mass media campaigns that are launched with multi million dollars. I wouldn't be surprised if this was a billion dollar campaign, but behind Sydney Sweeney, because it's everywhere. There are people taking pictures in malls all over the place of this. And it's not just a commercial. It is, in fact, a huge tell for where we are as a society. But, Blake, what's your take on that?
Hugh
Yeah, well, I think first of all, we should probably show the ad in case people haven't seen it. So, yeah, there was the, like, the image ad where she has great jeans. But how about. I think it's also a video clip. Let's show cut 4, 30.
Sydney Sweeney
I'm not here to tell you to buy American Eagle jeans. And I definitely won't say that they're the most comfortable jeans I've ever worn or that they make your butt look amazing. Why would I need to do that? But if you said that you want to buy the jeans, I'm not going to stop you. But just so we're clear, this is not me telling you to buy American Eagle jeans.
Jack Posobiec
Sydney's tweeny Hasbro Kings.
Sydney Sweeney
You see what I did there, right?
Jack Posobiec
So those are pretty. Those are pretty tame. But then there's. There's 5, 2, 4. And I think 5, 2, 4 is the one that's really, really pushing the envelope with a lot of these types.
Sydney Sweeney
Genes are passed down from parents to offspring, often determining traits like hair color. Personality and even eye color. My jeans are blue.
Jack Posobiec
Cindy's Tweenie Hasbert canes. Oh, no. Denounce. Horrible. Terrible.
Blake
How dare you disavow complete. Obviously eugenics and Nazi propaganda. And she happens to be white, Jack. I think that's the real, you know, thing we really need to zero in on. She's white and she has blue eyes, which is a crime. It's a crime in modern America.
Jack Posobiec
My jeans are blue. Do we. By the way, I think we have Charlie. Do we have Charlie joining us?
Charlie Kirk
I am here. Yes. Guys, sorry for the delay. Complicated business.
Jack Posobiec
Charlie, do you have good jeans?
Charlie Kirk
I was shop. I was actually jean shopping. That's why I was.
Jack Posobiec
That was not planned, folks.
Charlie Kirk
I was trying on some new jeans.
Blake
Which brand were they? Charlie? Did the marketing work or.
Charlie Kirk
They were. They were Lululemon, and I'm considering an American Eagle purchase just in solidarity. We had a hilarious call on our show. Hilarious. And we're gonna air it. This woman, sweet old woman, she's like reading a prepared script. And she's a member of ours. It's one of the greatest clips ever. And she's like, charlie, I'm a member. I'm a child of God. I pray for you all the time. Everything. You know, you do such a wonderful job. I want you to let you know that that ad, the reaction was so insulting. I have blonde hair and blue eyes, and I have good jeans. I bought American jeans just as a protest. I'm like, I like. I love. No, it was so good. I got to get the clip. It was. The radicalization just from the reaction of this advertisement has been. Has been amazing to witness.
Blake
Every time that a leftist screams about Sydney Sweeney being some sort of like. Or the ad being some eugenicist ad or Nazi propaganda, I think, like a thousand more young men register Republican. I think it's a one to one ratio. Every time a bell rings, an angel gets its wing. No. A young Republican is born. It's amazing. It's like the best marketing that the Republican Party could ever hope for. Just please keep making these insane videos and think about how many.
Charlie Kirk
One of my. One of my favorites. One of my favorites, I'll let Jack chime in, is, you know, some of these Subaru women on social media, they're like, what do young men see in Sydney Sweeney anyway? I'm like, yeah, you really don't understand.
Blake
Obviously, literally, if they don't understand, they should see our streaming number shoot up every time we play the ad.
Producer Andrew
Does she even have a graduate degree?
Charlie Kirk
It's Def. It's definitely her. Her personality. Jack, your thoughts?
Jack Posobiec
Well, so let's. Let's look at where we were in advertising a year ago or even two years ago, when we had the likes of Dylan Mulvaney being a corporate. The face of a corporate brand, we had the likes of the. The plus size models. Remember, the plus size models were feeded upon us in Times Square and in marketing campaigns all across the German shepherd for years.
Charlie Kirk
I'm sorry. No, no, I'm sorry.
Jack Posobiec
You got to go back, guys. Trigger warning.
Charlie Kirk
Hold on.
Jack Posobiec
Like you gotta. You gotta tell me time out before you're gonna put.
Charlie Kirk
Hold on. Time out. Go back to the picture you showed before. Did they do an American Eagle just to troll them? Not that one. Is she really holding a German shepherd in one of the advertisements?
Jack Posobiec
Oh, my God. It's just a dog.
Charlie Kirk
How. How has this been lost on all the critics? I think it's hilarious.
Jack Posobiec
It's just a dog. Although they do say the German Shepherds are the most trainable dogs. That's why they use them in the military, law enforcement.
Charlie Kirk
I'm sorry, Jack, I interrupted. I'm sorry. Of all the picture. Of all the dogs they could have selected.
Blake
It'S a puppy.
Jack Posobiec
Why isn't it.
Charlie Kirk
They did.
Jack Posobiec
Why wasn't it a pit bull?
Charlie Kirk
Well, that's a whole other thought crime. Jack, I interrupted you. Keep going.
Jack Posobiec
No, you're fine. You're fine. And it's it so. And. And yeah, we've got a bunch of videos reacting to this, but think of the billions and billions of dollars that were spent on these mass marketing campaigns to try to tell us that the 2019American Eagle model was as. I'm just going to say it was as attractive as the 2025. It's clear. I mean, I don't know, maybe some people are into that. I'm not really that much of a badonkadonk guy myself. I'm sure that they're out there. I've certainly met guys like that when I was in the military.
Blake
But.
Jack Posobiec
But, you know, I'll go for the 2025 all day long. And I'm sorry, like, you're. You want young men to not be attracted to Sydney Sweeney is like, you could. You could spend all the money in the world. Elon Musk could come up with the greatest AI input, all of the knowledge of the entire world, and it will not be able to come up with a computation that will make young men not be attracted to Sydney Sweeney. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. This reality is Reality. It's as simple as that, folks.
Charlie Kirk
Blake, big picture thing, then let's play some of the reaction.
Hugh
We'll do that. We'll do that after the reaction. Let's do the reaction first. How about let's start with. I think the funniest one is let's do 501. Let's do that.
Jack Posobiec
Was Roe v. Wade not enough? Because I'm starting to think we're one Sydney Sweeney campaign away from them taking our right to vote too. We must start protesting, ladies.
Hugh
She can't keep getting away with it.
Charlie Kirk
She's got to be trolling now. I think that one's a troll. I think that one is like kind of a, you know, a little bit, I don't think.
Hugh
Okay.
Charlie Kirk
But yeah, that probably too affected. Yeah.
Hugh
Good Morning America was probably not. Not trolling us. So how about let's do. Let's do 425.
Producer Andrew
We begin with the backlash over a.
Jack Posobiec
New ad campaign featuring actress Sydney Sweeney. Yeah, the ads are for American Eagle and the tagline is Sydney Sweeney has great jeans. Now, in one ad, the blonde hair, blue eyed actress talks about gentlemen genes, as in DNA being passed down from her parents. The play on words is being compared.
Blake
To Nazi propaganda with racial undertones.
Charlie Kirk
The pun good genes activates a troubling.
Jack Posobiec
Historical associations for this country. The American eugenics movement in its prime between like 1900 and 1940, weaponized the idea of good genes just to justify white supremacism. Despite that backlash, American Eagle stock has been soaring.
Hugh
Imagine that.
Charlie Kirk
Who wants to react?
Jack Posobiec
So guys, I'm confused. I'm a little confused. Can someone. Charlie, you're on campus all the time. You know, you know, you see, you interact with these professors as well as the kids. I was told that race was a social construct along with gender. So if race is a social construct, then how can what she say be racist? Because she's just talking about biology. But if race is a social construct, then how can that be racist? I don't understand.
Charlie Kirk
Well, you're not allowed to ask those questions, right? You're not allowed to talk about genetics. Even though some of the most popular, most touted companies last couple years was 23andMe and Ancestry.com, but you're not allowed to talk about genetics. Let's go to another go, Andy.
Blake
Yeah, I mean, when we talk about race and all this, I mean, we are living in a world where black is beautiful and you know, we're, I mean, all the races, at least black. I mean, but I think basically most of the Races, except for white, have a free license to sort of talk about how great they are. I mean, I don't understand what the. If we're going to be consistent here, then we should be able to do that. That's all I'm saying. It's, you know, everything. Everything should be fair game. But anyways, Go ahead, Charlie. I don't mean to interrupt you.
Charlie Kirk
No, it's fine. I mean, you just think of all the stuff. I mean it's support black businesses, Black lives matter, Black history month, and there is one single lady, there's one lady who is in a advertisement for jeans and everyone loses their mind. They immediately call it nazi propaganda. Private student loan debt in America totals about $300 billion. Why refi refinances private student loan debt and they do not care what your credit score is. Many clients aren't even able to make the minimum monthly payment on their private student loans when they contact yrefi. Go to yrefi.com that is yrefy.com you don't have to ignore that mountain of student loan statements on your kitchen table anymore. So go to yrefi.com do you have a co borrower? Well, why refi can get them released from the loan and you can give mom or dad a break. Go to yrefi.com can you imagine being debt free and not living under this burden anymore? So go to yrefi.com that is yrefy.com let's face it, if you have distressed or defaulted private student loans, there's no better place to go than yrefi. They provide you with a custom loan payment based on your ability to pay. They're not a debt settlement company. So check it out. Right now@yrefi.com may not be available in all 50 states. Go to yrefi.com that is yrefy.com let's continue with cut 4 27.
Hugh
Should we be surprised that a company whose name is literally American Eagle is making fascist propaganda like this? Probably not, but it's still really shocking. Like a blonde haired, blue eyed white woman is talking about her good genes like that is nazi propaganda. Did she have a septum piercing?
Charlie Kirk
And they all have septum, Pierce. I don't know why. Can we have a conversation about that? As a side note, what is with the. I have a whole theory as to why young men find Sydney Sweeney attractive. Outside of the obvious. One of it is that there's no disfiguration, there's no work, there's no tattoos. I mean, you look at them. You look at the difference there. What is the nose piercing appeal? Who are you drawing into your life? What kind of energy are you sending out? And I'm sure some of them are good people. But what. What is the pro septum piercing argument? I've never heard it.
Jack Posobiec
You get to look like a bull. I don't know. Like, I've never got it. I just would like to be able to order coffee somewhere that, you know, I don't have to see a septum piercing everywhere. I mean, I guess I can understand if it's somewhere. The fact that we allow this really is just everywhere. It's just everywhere. You know, the, you know, tattoos all over the place and septum piercings all over the place. And you see this with, like, teachers now in. In grade schools. You see this in children's tv. I. I see it because, you know, I watch, like, kids media. Charlie, I'm sure in the same boat. And Andrew, because, you know, we have little kids and. And all this time, I'm just. I never remember anyone in kids media looking like that before. But, you know, just to go back to Sydney Sweeney, I think, Charlie, what you're saying is it's because, you know, the qualities that she has are just naturals. She's got great naturals. I think it's really the naturals that these young men are so attracted to her. Her wonderful naturals.
Charlie Kirk
Blake.
Hugh
Okay, so first of all, I like, on the. On the septum piercing thing, there's kind of two theories. You'll see. One is kind of. There is this element where sometimes it's a psychological theory that women will, like, egg on each other, supposedly in like a you go girl sort of way. They'll egg each other on to doing things that make you less competitive, like in the. Basically in the dating market, in competing for the attention of men. So you'll be like, does this. Does this septum piercing make me look good? And you're like, yeah, it makes you look great, sister. And, like, even subconsciously, they realize it doesn't do that. But that's a good thing because you want. You want the competition to be sabotaged. That's one theory. Another theory, frankly, you could kind of relate it to, you know, the social contagion with transgenderism where women are, you know, young women, they. This is the theory in that Abigail Shrier book where women who are in their teens and they're sort of traumatized by suddenly, you know, they've hit puberty, they're suddenly getting male attention, and some of them Find that very uncomfortable. And this uncomfortable thing sort of drives them in the direction of, well, maybe I just don't want to be a woman at all. And you kind of. You do the whole dramatic, you know, identifying as having no gender or being male, and that's like a way to secede from male attention and maybe, like, really disgusting body deformations, like piercing your septum, getting a really hideous tattoo, or even just getting incredibly fat. These are ways of sort of cutting this off. It gets you away from that uncomfortable element of attention. Like everyone. Everyone's so afraid of receiving attention from others that feels uncomfortable at all that they do that. So there's kind of competing theories out there. Another one on the flip side, this is a common one with tattoos, is that if you get a tattoo, it actually does increase the attention you get, even though most men find them less attractive. A lot of men will basically hit on women who have tattoos because they perceive that they'll be really easy, that they'll. They've shown a pattern of making bad decisions, and maybe the next bad decision they'll make is going out with them. So there's a lot of things that go into it. And I do think you are correct, though, that a lot of the appeal of Sydney Sweeney is like, we need to analyze this when it's the most straightforward thing in the world. Sydney Sweeney is thin, has good symmetry, has, like, a generally good appearance, has no weird deformations, no weird traits added to her, and she has good natural assets, as it were. And, like, the fact that you even need to explain that at all is exactly why the left has lost a cultural narrative. So to circle back to that big picture thing I wanted to bring up the most interesting thing about this is that really, for our entire lives and our youth, the left was associated with, like, youthful beauty. And, like, the stereotypical right winger would maybe be like an old church mom, like, lecturing you about something, or this, like, grumpy old man. And now it's like the left itself is coming out and saying, oh, this image of, like, an attractive young woman selling jeans. That's a right wing message. A far right message, even. Thank you for doing our work for us. I suppose.
Blake
Guys, I. I have to. I'm going to take the. The body mod and then the Sydney Sweeney question. Body mod. I might get in trouble for this. I might get my second Media Matters article for this. But I think that body mod, not always. I think there's some people that are just creative. I mean, it might be kind of the tattoo instinct that they feel like it's a form of creativity. I think a lot of it though is spiritual darkness. I think there is a tendency to modify the natural to take away from God's design when there's spiritual darkness present. I totally believe this. This is why we run into so many of these kids on campuses with the piercings and the green hair and you know, they're purposefully rebelling against natural order even in the way they dress. And nothing can be considered traditional or standard fare. Everything has to be different. I personally believe that. Secondly, I think the. The Sydney Sweeney, to answer your first question, Charlie, why does she appeal? Is because she's like American coded. Like she. Even in this ad, she's driving around in an old Mustang and peeling out and she doesn't make it. She doesn't make excuses for her beauty. She's kind of strong. She's an athlete. She's done a bunch of super sports. And she's not pandering to sort of this left coded modern weak wokeness. She's doing the exact opposite. It's like a throwback to the 1980s. It's a throwback to like the 1960s and 70s. And everything about it about it is just, to Jack's point, is natural and it's. She's leaning in as opposed to trying to make excuses for how beautiful she is.
Charlie Kirk
Let's. Joe Bob had something to say. Look, I totally disavow this video, obviously, but I have to play it anyway. Play cut 533.
Jack Posobiec
Hey, you want to go to American Eagle?
Sydney Sweeney
Oh, I can't go in there because I'm black.
Blake
You know what? She might be right. I don't think American Eagle accepts ebt.
Producer Andrew
What? That's the one that'll get me in trouble.
Blake
Disavow.
Charlie Kirk
I obviously disavow that.
Jack Posobiec
We get. We got to ask. We'll have to ask Bobby Kennedy about that one. Secretary Kennedy, is our American Eagle President's fitness test they were doing today? No, but I think you look at this and. Duncan, go ahead. Oh, so I mean Dunkin Donuts as well, you know, they were kind of Dunkin Donuts also had. And that was a male in this case. But they basically put out an ad where he's like, I'm basically the king of Summer. And it's very clear that this is like. It's like, guys, this is the stuff that people were into for years and years and years. You go Back to the 90s, 10 commercials look like this Gillette. The best a man can get. The best A man can get a woke. And it was that video about the dad and his son. And then, like, the grandfather comes in. This is my dad. And they're passing the razor on down through the generations. Just one of the best ads ever made. This is what ads used to look like. And so when you think about things like that, you think about things like. Like last year, white boy summer was a huge trend that was going around. And. And it's very clear that this is the way the country is moving. And what I want to be clear is it's. It's not quote unquote, moving far right. It's moving back to the center where everything always was. Yeah, guys like girls who look like Sidney Sweeney. It's as simple as that. We have a clip. MSNBC was talking about this. Let's. Let's. Let's play the Duncan act. Because I just mentioned at 529.
Blake
Look, I didn't ask to be the king of summer. It just kind of happened.
Jack Posobiec
This tan genetics. I just got my color analysis back.
Charlie Kirk
Guess what?
Jack Posobiec
Golden Summer. Literally.
Charlie Kirk
I can't help it.
Jack Posobiec
Every time I drink a Dunkin Golden Hour refresher, it's like the sun just finds me. So if sipping these refreshers makes me the king of summer, guilty as charged. The Golden Hour refresher. Only a Duncan.
Hugh
Was Chet Hanks.
Charlie Kirk
I have no idea who that is.
Hugh
You don't know who Chet Hanks is?
Charlie Kirk
But. No, I have no idea what.
Jack Posobiec
No, no. Who is. Who is that actor or figure?
Charlie Kirk
Some pretty boy. I don't know.
Blake
Gavin Jeans? Castle Lang? No, Gavin Casalango.
Charlie Kirk
Oh. From the summer I turned pretty. Oh, okay. Gavin. Yeah. That's the whole thing on Amazon. I see it when I go watch the Cubs game. They keep on pushing all this propaganda, trying to go watch the Cubs game the summer I turned pretty. Go away. It's all this Amazon prime propaganda. Okay. You know, it's another actor that mentions genes and genetics anytime Summer.
Blake
Well, and that's why MSNBC is now complaining that there's this basically an arguable shift to. I think we have the image. It was up earlier. Yeah. Sydney Sweeney's ad shows an unbridled cultural shift towards whiteness. Like, what a dumb take from this. That. I mean, it's just amazing. And I actually saw some people on social media saying there's no actual pushback to this. It's all just like paid influencers. There's no. No actual organic. And. And yet the.
Charlie Kirk
There's the opposite. There's actually support.
Blake
I'm just saying, like people were suggesting that there, that the whole pushback to the Sydney Sweeney ad was contrived, that it was manufactured, that there wasn't any popular support for it. But I mean, if, if that's true, I mean there has been so much coverage of this from the left, like they're playing right into our hands if this is, if, if, if this is manufactured. So it doesn't make any sense. I think they're legitimately that deranged that they can't help themselves.
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Hugh
I just, I want to read some quotes from the MSNBC article about the shift towards whiteness, because it really is. It's like a. You just take a time capsule back to the gobbledygook they were writing eight years ago. The backlash to the ad has been swift and fierce, and some of it, at least if you ask me, is fair. The Internet has been quick to condemn the advertisement as non inclusive at best and as overtly promoting white supremacy and Nazi propaganda at worst. These critics point to the copy and the implication of calling a white person superior because of their genes. In the videos, Sweeney exudes a sort of vintage sexiness that caters to the male gaze. She embodies the near mythological girl next door, beautiful but low maintenance femininity that dominated media in the 1990s and the early 2000s. Together, the campaign feels regressive and not retro, offensive and not cheeky. The advertisement and the choice of Sweeney as the sole face in it and The Internet's reaction reflects an unbridled cultural shift towards whiteness, conservatism, and capitalist exploitation. And Sweeney is both symptom and participant. Man, this person would get an A in some incredibly stupid college class in.
Blake
Like, 2015, in 2025. I mean, this is the. The college cabal is still very much active. I don't think we should ever assume that we've fully, like, smited these ignoramuses. But, like, this is. I mean, yeah, there is a shift towards opening the culture back up and feeling free to make, you know, provocative statements and ads and comedy and all this stuff. This is all a good thing. But these people, we have not beaten them fully. I think everybody needs to, like, slow their roll and understand just how pervasive this ideology will be.
Charlie Kirk
That is true.
Jack Posobiec
Don't make me do it, guys. Don't make me do it. Don't make me do it.
Blake
Oh, just saying.
Jack Posobiec
Just saying. We can bring it back. We can bring it back, Sydney. Sweet. I'm bringing it back.
Blake
I'll never forget, Jack. I'll never forget.
Jack Posobiec
Many, many were upset at the New York Times when. When that was launched. But you know what? Guess what? That's where the country.
Blake
Msnbc, I mean, it made it to the New York Times.
Jack Posobiec
Reed lost her mind. New York Times lost their mind. Everybody lost their mind. And it's like, guys, it's summer. It's just fun. Just. Just have fun. Stop being the way you are for five seconds. And they can't. They just can't. They never will. So it's like, guys, do you want to go over here and have fun? That's a great way to put it.
Blake
Go.
Charlie Kirk
Stop being the way.
Jack Posobiec
Go hang out with Sydney Sweeney or, you know, and Andrew. I do it. You know, Andrew did have to take a lot of phone calls on that one.
Charlie Kirk
Yeah.
Blake
So why.
Jack Posobiec
But look, you look where we are.
Blake
Forming a white supremacist. Yeah.
Jack Posobiec
Well, it's literally. Yeah, it was. It was the original. And now we got Sydney Sweeney out there, so I'll hang out with Sydney Sweeney. I'm good. By the way, Sydney Sweeney was asked once to disavow. I guess she was at, like, some family. Family event up in Spokane, Washington, and there were some people there wearing MAGA hats. I don't even know what it was. Some family event. And she's, like, in these Instagram shots with, you know, other people of her family who happen to be wearing MAGA hats. Again, this is, like, rural Washington state towards the border with Idaho, and she wouldn't disavow. She said, those are members of my family. That's what they wore. And I'm, you know, I'm not going to talk about that. Great. It was great. Sydney Sweeney, we love.
Blake
Yeah, she's born and raised in winger country. It's eastern Washington is full of wingers. I mean, that's, that's deep red. They want to, they want to break away from western Washington. Should we talk about the next one? South Park?
Charlie Kirk
Was there.
Jack Posobiec
What? Was there something else this week? Is there some other news regarding anyone?
Charlie Kirk
394?
Blake
There we go.
Producer Andrew
Wednesday, August 6th.
Cartman
You can just shut up, baby, because you hate America and you love abortion.
Producer Andrew
On an all new South Park.
Jack Posobiec
Okay.
Producer Andrew
The epic season continues. South park new episode Wednesday, August 6th at 10 on Comedy Central and next day on Paramount Plus.
Charlie Kirk
Jack, explain this to me. Like I have no idea what's going on.
Blake
So hold on. I just want to say that Blake was on vacation for the first three days of the week and like, so we basically didn't hear from him. I'll let him tell. Tell you if, if he wants what he was doing. But the one time Blake chimes into the chat, when Charlie discovered that he was caricatured on South Park, Blake was very, very excited.
Charlie Kirk
I found it pretty early.
Blake
No people were. I have never in my time working with you, Charlie, been so blown up with congratulatory text. It's like everybody was like, that's amazing. That's the coolest thing ever. And meanwhile the libs are like, charlie, they're making fun of you. You don't get it. Anyways, why aren't mad? Yeah, I'm mad that you're not mad.
Jack Posobiec
We're supposed to be mocking you. You can't enjoy it. And then you made it your profile picture. Like you just. You totally. So you. They tried to own you and you actually owned them owning you and you turned it into something that's even more powerful. And I love the reaction here because of course it's great. This is the great Eric Cartman. This is Cartman who? And this is. This is Cartman's thing, right? He might be mean, but he's never wrong.
Producer Andrew
Right.
Jack Posobiec
He's always right. And. And I love the catchphrase right there. You know, you hate America and you love abortion. It's like he's got the holy bible next to him. And so a couple bottles of water and I'm like, man, if you want to just distill like all of Charlie Kirk down in one sentence.
Charlie Kirk
So good.
Blake
It was the funniest, like, shut up, baby, because you hate America. Love abortions. It was like, I love the little details.
Hugh
Like, we've got. We've got the two water bottles at the table. Like, that's very precise. They got. They got the dark blue T shirt that Charlie's always wearing.
Blake
Security guys.
Hugh
Kind of like the security team. Of course. I don't know. I don't know if they're, like, looking for inspiration, but if they are, like, they could.
Jack Posobiec
And the hair. The hair. It's perfect.
Blake
No, they're missing. They're missing one thing, Blake. The lozenges. The lozenges. Where are the. Those. Those are just about as famous.
Charlie Kirk
Or the hats. Or the hats.
Jack Posobiec
Yeah, but that's. That's not always there.
Charlie Kirk
No, look, they have the step and repeat, too. They have, like the close up logo in the background. You know what I mean? Like, the step and repeat. It's pretty good.
Blake
They captured the essence.
Charlie Kirk
And the hair is, like, spot on. Oh, the hair is spot on.
Blake
So, Charlie, we have to give you a primer in this. I mean, you haven't watched since you were in high school. You said to Fox News. So let's go ahead and play a smattering of South Park 502.
Charlie Kirk
Oh, boy.
Cartman
What has happened to this place? I don't recognize it anymore. Used to be so fun and special. What is life worth living for? The dream is dead Our land is gone There's a hole in my heart and I can't go There are too many minorities minorities at my water park My water park. This was our land, our dream. Our dream. And they taking it all away. They just keep coming and coming.
Jack Posobiec
Man. Keep playing for, like, guys of a certain age. Everyone knows that song. Everyone.
Charlie Kirk
I did. I did. So I watch it during the Bush era. So during the Bush era, it was really big, right? And so during Bush era, it was really big. And I mean, I just got distracted by, you know, high school starting turning point. But during Bush, it was like, it was much watched. As I said, last time I really watched it was during high school. It was like, must watch tv. Like, every night they would drop. Every night they would drop a new episode. Everyone be talking about the next day. This is before phones, before Twitter. Like, you had to watch it and then you came to school and talked about it, right?
Hugh
There wasn't like, I genuinely would love to know, like, how does that feel? Like a show you watched, like a cartoon show you watched growing up is now. It's lasted long enough to satirize you. You are seeing yourself parodied in.
Charlie Kirk
All I can say is that there's there, there are, there are numerous things that are happening this summer and have yet to happen that I can't quite comprehend and that I can't quite grasp. Andrew knows about one that will not be public until it actually happens. That is kind of like a larger than life moment. Yeah, I mean, look, I can throw every cliche out there, but when I first saw it, I just laughed. I was like, I honestly thought, because I first saw it in some Twitter account I didn't recognize, I was like, this is 100% AI. Like, that was my first initial reaction, was like, come on, this is somebody that just kind of spent a bunch of money on AI. And then I started other accounts, posted. Then I went to the. I was like, wow, this is pretty awesome. And then the second thought I had is campus tours. Me behind a table debating college kids. We are living in their feeds rent free. So it's a badge of honor. And look, they're going to do their thing. They're going to make fun of me. Okay, fine, that's part of public life. Let's not take ourselves so seriously. Right. That's a signifier of how far we've come in the impact that we're making. And I think it's, I mean, look there other episode on Trump the other week. I mean, people had a lot of mixed reactions or negative reactions. And I'm just going to take it, I'm going to take it all in stride. America's small businesses rely on TikTok to succeed. We go viral on TikTok, reaching billions of young people every year. It's one of the reasons why we were able to win the youth vote. Well, TikTok helps businesses attract more customers and drive growth. From small batch sellers to fast growing brands, 74% of businesses on TikTok say it's helped them scale by hiring more employees, boosting sales and expanding to new locations. Like Arizona Taco King, who grew from a mom and pop taco cart to two thriving restaurants in just a year. Or Coco Asante, who upgraded to a larger facility and brought on more staff, letting their handcrafted chocolates reach more customers. Or Dan O Seasoning, who went from one man show to a team of 45. Now supporting dozens of hardworking families. With TikTok, small businesses are thriving, finding their customers and expanding. Learn more about TikTok's contribution to the US economy at TikTok economic impact.com tiktokeconomicimpact.com.
Blake
I think we should keep playing clips.
Charlie Kirk
Keep playing clips.
Blake
Can I play another one? We good? 503 Cartman joins Border Patrol.
Producer Andrew
It carries a 4,000 watt charge and is your best option for enforcing border patrol law.
Cartman
This is gonna be so sweet.
Producer Andrew
The baton is non lethal, but powerful. Hey, we got some Mexicans at 2 o'.
Charlie Kirk
Clock.
Producer Andrew
Let's get ready. Recruits. Must be a couple dozen of them. This is the U.S. border Patrol. Stop where you are, turn around and get back to work. There's too many of them. We're gonna need backup.
Blake
Huh?
Producer Andrew
You're pretty good at stopping, Mexican son.
Jack Posobiec
What's your name?
Cartman
Cartman. Eric T. Cartman.
Producer Andrew
Dedicated, patriotic.
Blake
Tireless.
Producer Andrew
These are the men and women of these U.S. border Patrol. They work around the clock protecting America's prosperity. They are the front line in making sure Mexicans stay here and work. The Border patrol is uncompromising, diligent and keen. They will defend, arrest, and most importantly, let the Mexicans know that they are way better off here in the United States.
Blake
So.
Hugh
So wait, was the. Was the joke in that episode, was.
Jack Posobiec
That like a reverse order?
Blake
That was weird. They were keeping them here to make them.
Charlie Kirk
Like when the Border Patrol didn't. Is that when they didn't do their job under Biden? I don't know. I didn't quite understand that. So first part I got that was under Biden. Oh, was that this season? I don't. I don't quite get that.
Blake
I don't think so.
Charlie Kirk
It was not. It was a previous season. My.
Hugh
I thought I've had like they did.
Charlie Kirk
It's old.
Hugh
About 15 years ago they did a similar parody. Like when Glenn Beck was at the peak of his popularity. They did like a Glenn Beck parody. And what I remember about it is they really like, they nailed a lot of good details on it. Like, you know, the whiteboard Glenn would have where he would, you know, kind of tie concepts together. They had that. They nailed the look of the set. So I thought I'd maybe ask Charlie, like if they could make sure Eric uses. Eric Cartman uses like one line that you like to use or has like one kind of tick of your. Like, what would you want them to have in it?
Charlie Kirk
Probably what is. Probably what is a woman is a pretty famous one. Or would you like a hat? That line has been pretty. Has gone pretty viral or. So who you voting for? But no, look, there's. There's so many. I would have to think about it. One of the ones that went super viral is liberals are all rage and no Wisdom. And so. But I look forward to just kind of all the little, small details. And honestly, with like, the security behind me, it's just. It goes to show, though, and I mean, that's needless to say that what we have done has really has permeated the culture, I think more so than we even realize at times, right? As the actual. I mean, we know it's big, I know it's broad, we know it's impactful.
Blake
But I will join you in that, Charlie. I have. You can just sit there and just not say anything if you want. But, I mean, I have been blown away personally, because I've walked with you in public places and I'll be. And I have taken you to a couple places where I thought would be. You'd be protected and kind of nondescript or whatever. And it's like selfie after selfie after selfie after selfie. And I mean, you could be in midtown Manhattan and you're getting stopped all the time for selfies. Like people that love you.
Charlie Kirk
Negative and positive, might I add, in mid.
Blake
Yeah.
Charlie Kirk
In midtown Manhattan, I'm sure.
Blake
But I'm telling you, I've taken you to very blue places and you get stopped a lot and a lot by young, young people, like, specifically in that, like, 15 to 25 age, age range, sometimes younger even. But those are the ones that will stop you. And it. And for me, it's constantly a reminder, like, whoa, I am. Because I've worked with you for so long. I remember one of my first times working with Charlie, we were at the airport. We were, you know, I forget which airport, but it was, you know, a big airport. And there was one kid that stopped Charlie and gave him a fist bump. One kid. So the whole time we were walking, there was one kid stopped. You didn't say anything, gave you a fist bump. And I looked at Charlie, I was like, oh, wow, somebody knows you. This is pretty cool. And to go from there to where we're at, where I literally can't take you anywhere anymore, is nuts.
Hugh
My personal favorite play five or two.
Charlie Kirk
Blake. Yeah, chime in. Blake.
Hugh
Yeah. My personal favorite is when you were headed back from the uk. We're in airport security at Heathrow Airport and there's these, like, British high school aged kids. And one of them. I hear him start talking.
Blake
You.
Hugh
Yeah, I think that's Trolley Kirk over there.
Producer Andrew
I think it's trying to cook.
Hugh
And I was like, oh, man, this has gone global.
Blake
Ah, I have one of those stories too, actually. And we'll play the Clip after this. When we're at the rnc, all these, like, French girls, they were must have been like 18, 19 years old. There was a whole, like, crew of them. And they were at the RNC doing some sort of, like, you know, cultural exchange. And they. All they wanted to do was take a picture with Charlie. And we. And I remember Charlie, you were up on stage doing. We were doing our live. Our livestream. And I think you had Byron Donalds and Vivek Ramaswamy on stage with you at the rnc. And, you know, Byron gets off and I'm like, hey, do you want a selfie with Byron? They're like, no, it's okay. And then Vivek gets off stage, and I was like, do you want a selfie with Vivek? They're like, no, no, it's okay. I was like, just Charlie. Like, just Charlie. And I go, why Charlie? And they're like, he's red pilling all the French kids. And I was like, oh, listen. It's like, look out, Western World.
Charlie Kirk
And thank. And thank you for the good words. But it would not be possible without, of course, the Turning Point USA chapter and all the field work. But then also the editing team and the filmers from vi, right, Brian and Terrell. That's tough work. It is literally a team that makes it happen. And so we could go around and complement each other endlessly, which is necessary. But I have the easy part. I get to sit there and I get to just yammer on always and ask questions out of a bunch of kids. But honestly, the.
Blake
Your fake humility has no place, everyone.
Charlie Kirk
It's not fake.
Producer Andrew
I know.
Charlie Kirk
I'm just real busting your job.
Blake
I know I do.
Charlie Kirk
It's from the prep from Blake and from Andrew. It's. Everyone plays a huge role. So let's play 5:13. Thank you guys for saying that. It is. It's otherworldly because, you know, the campus stuff always had a little bit of resonance and virality, but it went from like a pocket conservative niche thing, like, okay, got a couple million views to now a household. Not just. Not just name, but the south park thing, which is what's so interesting. A household concept meaning, like, oh, Charlie at a table debating a kid. It's like that visual has, like, set in similar to, like, who Wants to Be a Millionaire, right? Like, it's like very. Or like Jeopardy or Wheel of Fortune, right? It's something that when you show it, people like, oh, yeah, I know what that is. I've seen it. And what's so important with no major corporate backing. That's what's so crazy. Totally grassroots, right? Not like it was like some major Fortune 100 company that came in was like, oh, let's go make you a celebrity and let's go spend $100 million. Nope, had to go raise it. And it's been pretty amazing. Let's play Kai. Cut 513. So just so I'm clear, guys. So cartman is playing me, is that right? So this cartman character seems to get involved in a lot of different things it seems. So let's play 5:13 minding our own business.
Cartman
And she keeps saying she's Eric cartman.
Producer Andrew
Okay, and what's wrong with that?
Cartman
What's wrong is it doesn't make any sense.
Producer Andrew
Okay, I see there's a diverse female where cartman used to be and you don't like that.
Cartman
It's not that we don't like it. It's. Don't you think that's weird?
Producer Andrew
I don't see a problem with it at all. And if you boys don't think Eric can be a black woman, then maybe the problem is you.
Cartman
What? You think it's perfectly normal that cartman is suddenly a black woman?
Producer Andrew
You probably don't like that Indiana jones got replaced by a female either, huh?
Charlie Kirk
So good.
Blake
All right, one more, one more. Can we do the new Muslim student 504. Let's do it.
Producer Andrew
All right, students, let's take our seats. Everyone try to be nice because we have a new student joining us today and I know you all make him feel welcome. Say hello to Bahir Hassan Abdul hakim.
Cartman
Uh oh.
Producer Andrew
Welcome to our class, bahir.
Cartman
Thank you. Dude, do not curse.
Producer Andrew
Why don't you take a seat in Kyle's empty desk for now, okay? Eric, what the hell is wrong with you?
Cartman
What's wrong? Has he been checked for bombs?
Producer Andrew
Eric, that's enough. Not all muslim people are terrorists.
Cartman
No, but most of them are. And all it takes is most of them.
Hugh
All it takes is most of them.
Blake
Right? I mean, Charlie, you've been raging against the islamic takeover of the west.
Charlie Kirk
This is the greatest thing I've ever seen. I. Now it all starts to make sense why everyone's congratulating me. It's all coming into focus, the whole thing. Because again, I've been a decade since I've watched the program. We have to wrap here, but is there one more that we would highly recommend here? Let's see, I'm told that 5:20 is good.
Producer Andrew
Hey, what's going on? Is your Girlfriend home? She's sort of busy right now, Ms. Swanson. Just want to tell her no hard feelings about me winning the strong Woman competition. Yeah, you already told her that at the competition. You got a problem with me? Cause it's starting to seem like you have a problem with me.
Cartman
What's going on?
Charlie Kirk
Oh, hi, Heather.
Producer Andrew
I was just stopping by to make sure you're not too beat up.
Charlie Kirk
Oh, that's really cool. I'm sorry, but I have all the kids right now.
Producer Andrew
Where are the little kiddos? I'd love to meet them. Hoo hoo. Hey, kids. Well, there's a lot of you. Your mom must be a strong woman to take care of all of you. Of course. I have the strong Woman trophy, though. Just kidding, right? Look, why don't you just get out of here? Ooh, sounds like someone here is a transphobe. Don't you dare. I'm trans people's biggest supporter. What I think you are is a terrible sport. Transphobe. You better knock it off.
Jack Posobiec
Just don't. You're gonna upset the PC babies.
Producer Andrew
And if you dare call me a transphobe again, I'm gonna. You're gonna what? Beat me up? You're gonna beat me up? Transplant? Yeah, I didn't think so. See you later, kids. Come on over and see ol Auntie Heather if you want to see what a real strong woman is like.
Charlie Kirk
And with that, we say, keep committing thought crimes. Next week will not be boring. Make sure you guys tune in. God bless. Talk to you soon. Thanks so much for listening, everybody. Email us. As always, freedomarliekirk.com thanks so much for listening, listening and God bless.
Jack Posobiec
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Podcast Summary: THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 93 — Charlie On South Park? Sydney Sweeney's Great Jeans?
Release Date: August 2, 2025
Podcast: The Charlie Kirk Show
Host: Charlie Kirk
Guests: Blake, Jack Posobiec, Producer Andrew, Hugh
In Episode 93 of "Thoughtcrime," host Charlie Kirk engages with his team—Blake, Jack Posobiec, Producer Andrew, and Hugh—to discuss two major topics: his recent cameo on the animated series "South Park" and the widespread controversy surrounding Sydney Sweeney's American Eagle Jeans advertisement. The conversation delves into media portrayal, cultural backlash, and the implications for conservative activism.
Discussion Highlights:
The Parody Reveal:
Charlie Kirk introduces the topic by announcing his caricatured appearance on "South Park," a show known for its satirical take on contemporary issues. (00:00-00:55)
Excitement and Reaction:
Blake shares enthusiasm about the parody, highlighting the positive feedback from supporters and contrasting it with the leftist mockery. (31:09-31:56)
Blake: "When Charlie discovered that he was caricatured on South Park, Blake was very, very excited. It's the great Eric Cartman, always right, distilling everything Charlie stands for."
Impact and Engagement:
The team discusses how the parody has amplified Charlie's presence, making him a household name beyond conservative niches. (33:12-35:42)
Charlie Kirk: "It's a badge of honor. And look, they're going to make fun of me. Okay, fine, that's part of public life."
Audience Recognition:
Personal anecdotes about being recognized in public reinforce the show's growing cultural footprint. Blake recounts numerous instances where Charlie is approached by admirers, emphasizing the effectiveness of their grassroots efforts. (41:03-42:29)
Discussion Highlights:
Ad Overview and Backlash:
Jack Posobiec introduces the controversy surrounding Sydney Sweeney's American Eagle Jeans commercial, which has been criticized by some as "Nazi propaganda" due to perceived racial undertones. (01:16-05:23)
Jack Posobiec: "People are calling it Nazi propaganda. Sydney Sweeney has good genes. She’s white and has blue eyes, which is a crime in modern America."
Hosts' Response to Criticism:
The team dismisses the backlash as overblown, arguing that the reaction itself serves as effective conservative mobilization. They highlight how accusations of promoting white supremacy inadvertently strengthen Republican engagement. (05:23-07:14)
Blake: "Every time a leftist screams about Sydney Sweeney being some sort of eugenicist or Nazi propaganda, a thousand more young men register Republican."
Cultural Analysis:
Charlie and Blake analyze the advertisement's cultural significance, asserting that it represents a shift back to traditional American values and aesthetics, countering progressive narratives. (07:14-16:18)
Charlie Kirk: "She's a throwback to the 1980s and 1970s. Everything about it is just natural and leans into traditional masculinity and femininity."
Critique of Leftist Narratives:
The hosts argue that the left's inability to accept traditional beauty standards reflects a weakened cultural narrative, positioning Sydney Sweeney's ad as symbolic of broader societal changes. (19:40-25:41)
Hugh: "The backlash reflects an unbridled cultural shift towards whiteness, conservatism, and capitalist exploitation."
MSNBC's Take:
An excerpt from an MSNBC article is read, critiquing the ad as promoting white supremacy and regressive values. The team ridicules the article's analysis, deeming it outdated and illogical. (28:05-28:42)
Hugh (reading MSNBC): "The advertisement reflects an unbridled cultural shift towards whiteness... Sweeney is both symptom and participant."
Conclusion on the Ad's Impact:
The discussion concludes with the assertion that the controversy has inadvertently boosted support for conservative ideals, turning negative backlash into positive momentum for the Republican base. (28:42-29:30)
Jack Posobiec: "They can't help themselves. Guys, do you want to go over here and have fun? That's a great way to put it."
Discussion Highlights:
Body Mods as a Social Statement:
Blake and Hugh delve into the prevalence of septum piercings and tattoos among young women, linking these trends to broader social and psychological factors. They explore theories ranging from creative expression to rebellious acts against traditional norms. (14:27-16:18)
Blake: "There's a tendency to modify the natural to take away from God's design when there's spiritual darkness present."
Impact on Perceptions:
The hosts discuss how body modifications influence societal perceptions and interactions, particularly in educational and professional settings. (16:18-21:22)
Jack Posobiec: "We have kids media now showcasing these modifications, which was unheard of before."
Correlation with Conservative Values:
The conversation ties the increasing acceptance of body mods to the erosion of conservative values, suggesting a need to address these cultural shifts proactively. (21:22-25:41)
Blake: "It's about maintaining traditional standards and countering the relentless push towards modernity that disregards natural aesthetics."
Discussion Highlights:
Reflection on Grassroots Influence:
Charlie emphasizes the power of grassroots movements in shaping public opinion and countering mainstream narratives, underscoring the importance of sustained activism. (44:19-44:27)
Charlie Kirk: "This is a badge of honor. The impact we're making is far greater than we realize at times."
Future Outlook:
The episode wraps up with a look ahead, promising continued engagement and addressing upcoming cultural and political challenges. The hosts express confidence in their growing influence and the resilience of conservative principles. (48:01-End)
Charlie Kirk: "Making America great again starts with making America healthy again."
Charlie Kirk on Fighting for Freedom:
"We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives. And we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country."
(00:39)
Blake on Political Shifts Triggered by Ad Backlash:
"Every time a leftist screams about Sydney Sweeney being some sort of eugenicist or Nazi propaganda, a thousand more young men register Republican."
(06:37)
Hugh on Media Criticism:
"The Internet's reaction reflects an unbridled cultural shift towards whiteness, conservatism, and capitalist exploitation."
(28:05)
Jack Posobiec on the Inevitability of Attraction:
"You could spend all the money in the world, Elon Musk could come up with the greatest AI input... it will not be able to come up with a computation that will make young men not be attracted to Sydney Sweeney."
(09:28)
In this episode of "Thoughtcrime," Charlie Kirk and his team dissect the cultural reverberations of their appearance on "South Park" and the contentious response to Sydney Sweeney's American Eagle Jeans ad. They argue that the backlash against the ad inadvertently strengthens conservative movements by galvanizing support and highlighting the absurdity of progressive critiques. Additionally, the discussion on body modifications underscores ongoing cultural conflicts between traditional values and modern expressions of identity. Through engaging dialogue and strategic analysis, the episode underscores the resilience and growing influence of grassroots conservative activism in the current socio-political landscape.