THOUGHTCRIME: What Should Project 2025 Really Be? Second Term Predictions?

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Charlie Kirk Show – "THOUGHTCRIME: What Should Project 2025 Really Be? Second Term Predictions?"

In this compelling episode of The Charlie Kirk Show, host Charlie Kirk engages with his co-hosts Cliff Maloney, Jack Posobiec, Tyler Bowyer, and Blake Masters to dissect the current state of American elections and outline visionary policies for Project 2025. The discussion spans election integrity issues, imminent political developments, and strategic policy recommendations for a potential second Trump term.

1. Election Integrity and Current Race Updates

The episode opens with a fervent discussion about the ongoing elections, focusing primarily on Pennsylvania’s 10th Congressional District. Jack Posobiec provides a detailed analysis of the delayed vote counts in Maricopa County, Arizona, signaling a favorable trend for Republican candidate Dave McCormick.

[03:00] Jack Posobiec: "The Pennsylvania Senate race is not over most soon. And he said that about an hour after... people like John Fetterman, people like Josh Shapiro, and then of course, Bob Casey himself have not conceded the race. And this is the big issue."

The hosts express skepticism over the delayed ballot counts, particularly highlighting issues in Maricopa and Pima counties. Blake Masters emphasizes the significance of the upcoming vote drops, indicating that favorable counts could decisively tilt the election in favor of Republicans.

[08:43] Blake Masters: "If she starts getting. Losing by two or three points in Maricopa, we're gonna have a problem."

2. Election Denial and Political Repercussions

A significant portion of the discussion centers around election denial, with strong criticism directed at Democratic figures like Bob Casey and Mark Elias. The hosts argue that such denial undermines the electoral process and advocate for sanctions against key Democratic operatives.

[04:33] Tyler Bowyer: "Bob Casey is being an election denier."

[05:02] Jack Posobiec: "Tyler was texting me, like, jack, sanctions, sanctions, sanctions."

The conversation extends to the broader critique of liberal mishandling of election processes, portraying it as a form of "civic terrorism" that erodes public trust in democratic institutions.

[11:32] Charlie Kirk: "It's really bad for everybody involved, though."

3. Project 2025: Policy Proposals for a Second Trump Term

Shifting focus to future governance, the hosts outline a comprehensive set of policy initiatives envisioned for Project 2025. These proposals reflect a strong conservative agenda aimed at restructuring federal agencies, enhancing border security, and promoting merit-based employment.

a. Border Security and Immigration Reform

Tyler Bowyer and Jack Posobiec advocate for immediate actions to secure the U.S. border, including the repeal of policies deemed counterproductive during the Biden administration.

[16:07] Tyler Bowyer: "What should we try to get done?... repealing a bunch of bad Biden executive orders."

b. Federal Hiring and Affirmative Action

Blake Masters and Charlie Kirk discuss the elimination of affirmative action in federal hiring, proposing a shift to merit-based recruitment to enhance government efficiency.

[23:23] Charlie Kirk: "We're getting rid of affirmative action in federal hiring practices by executive order."

c. Privatizing the TSA

A significant policy recommendation is the privatization of the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) to improve efficiency and reduce wait times at airports.

[23:27] Tyler Bowyer: "We should bring back a civil service exam too."

[24:01] Charlie Kirk: "Privatizing the TSA will go down as one of the great... Republican will be able to run."

d. Defunding Public Media

The hosts express a strong stance against publicly funded media outlets like NPR and PBS, advocating for their defunding to reduce governmental influence over media narratives.

[47:42] Blake Masters: "We should shut down PBS and NPR."

4. Pardons and Criminal Justice Reform

Cliff Maloney and Jack Posobiec highlight the necessity of pardoning individuals like Ross Ulbricht and participants of the January 6 events, framing them as victims of political persecution.

[30:53] Charlie Kirk: "Other ideas that we have, I mean, there's a lot of pardons that I think need to happen."

5. Reorganization of Federal Agencies

The discussion includes proposals to merge overlapping federal agencies to streamline operations and reduce bureaucratic redundancies.

[37:23] Charlie Kirk: "Schedule F allows you to fire people that need to be fired right away."

a. Merging EPA and Department of Energy

Blake Masters suggests consolidating the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) with the Department of Energy (DOE) to unify environmental and energy policies.

[38:04] Charlie Kirk: "They don't need to have two different agencies for something that effectively, the mandate is the same thing."

b. Land Management Reforms

Proposals include transferring federal lands managed by the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) back to state control to invigorate local governance.

[46:54] Charlie Kirk: "Give the land back. So go to Bureau of Land Management and do the greatest land transfer back to the states."

6. Response to Current Election Developments

As the episode progresses, the hosts receive live updates on vote counts, reinforcing their confidence in a Republican victory. They interpret the surge in Maricopa County votes as a decisive swing that could secure additional electoral votes.

[56:18] Blake Masters: "Maricopa just dropped 70,000 votes. 57% Lake."

[56:26] Tyler Bowyer: "That is a pick up off that. Well, she's..."

7. Concluding Remarks and Future Projections

Charlie Kirk wraps up the episode by reiterating the importance of their strategic policy initiatives and expressing optimism about the upcoming election results. The hosts remain committed to advocating for their outlined policies irrespective of the election outcome, emphasizing the broader goal of restoring conservative values and strengthening American institutions.

[61:12] Charlie Kirk: "Guys, did we talk Elias or no?"

[64:12] Blake Masters: "You're gonna... Media Matter is going to report on this and then they're going to get more mad. It's going to be great."

Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Charlie Kirk [00:00]: "Buckle up everybody. Here we go."

• Jack Posobiec [03:00]: "The Pennsylvania Senate race is not over most soon."

• Tyler Bowyer [04:33]: "Bob Casey is being an election denier."

• Blake Masters [23:23]: "We're getting rid of affirmative action in federal hiring practices by executive order."

• Cliff Maloney [30:53]: "Other ideas that we have, I mean, there's a lot of pardons that I think need to happen."

• Charlie Kirk [56:18]: "That's very, very good."

Conclusion

This episode of The Charlie Kirk Show serves as a robust platform for discussing urgent electoral concerns and outlining a strategic blueprint for conservative governance through Project 2025. The hosts meticulously address election integrity, propose transformative policies for federal restructuring, and underscore the necessity of immediate actions to secure America’s future. Whether addressing current electoral dynamics or envisioning a second Trump term, the episode is a testament to the show's commitment to advancing conservative principles and mobilizing its audience towards meaningful political change.

Transcript

[Charlie Kirk]

Hey everybody. Enjoy this episode. Become a member members.charliekirk.com that is members.charliekirk. com email us. As always, freedomarlykirk.com and become a member to support this program. Buckle up everybody. Here we go. Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

[Cliff Maloney]

Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.

[Jack Posobiec]

I want you to know we are.

[Cliff Maloney]

Lucky to have Charlie Kirk.

[Tyler Bowyer]

Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.

[Blake Masters]

I want to thank Charlie. He's an incredible guy. His spirit, his love of this country.

[Charlie Kirk]

He's done an amazing job building one.

[Blake Masters]

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Tyler Bowyer]

Longer and shorter. Like it's crazy to me that we're only two nights removed from.

[Charlie Kirk]

It has not been 48 hours since the call.

[Blake Masters]

That's crazy.

[Charlie Kirk]

You want something crazier? Hasn't been 48 hours since polls closed.

[Blake Masters]

Yeah.

[Tyler Bowyer]

Like we're 48 hours ago is like when we saw the early vote from Florida.

[Blake Masters]

I literally all day long thought today was Friday. All day long.

[Charlie Kirk]

It's just. It's just unbelievable because it's kind of weird because we kind of had two days in a day on Wednesday. Because it happens when you stay up all night.

[Blake Masters]

Yeah.

[Charlie Kirk]

Sleep four hours. Right. Right Jack. You know what I mean? So it's like you kind of was all what? Like two. Like because you. The overnight was kind of a night.

[Jack Posobiec]

Like Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday.

[Charlie Kirk]

Exactly.

[Jack Posobiec]

Like all one thing.

[Charlie Kirk]

Exactly. Did you.

[Jack Posobiec]

Have you guys slept yet? Have you had like eight and a half hours?

[Tyler Bowyer]

I crashed hard last night after the stream. I went home out and then I just woke up like 40 minutes before last night was.

[Blake Masters]

It was funny. You guys were talking about that in the chat and I was like oh, I'm glad I wasn't the only one. Cuz I like literally felt like I woke up way late cuz I've been getting about five Wait.

[Jack Posobiec]

So I did too. I did too. Because I got. So I got home. Home and like, actually slept my own bed. Yeah. Last night for the first night in. I don't even know how when. So on my. My pillow, on my. On my mattress topper, all my Giza dream sheets. And. No, we have all of them. We love them. And. But like, it was like my body just stopped. Like. Like if I wanted to stay up longer, I couldn't because it was just like, you know, the mind matter transfer or whatever. And my mind body split. Took. Body took over. I couldn't get. And then I couldn't get up this morning. Like, I was not getting up. Just wasn't happening. So, you know, I like, I give my kids a hug and I was like, yeah, I'll see you later, guys.

[Charlie Kirk]

Are we not getting data tonight, Tyler?

[Blake Masters]

No, no. I just had an idea that just came to me. That's like a genius idea. And I got texted.

[Jack Posobiec]

Pennsylvania, though.

[Charlie Kirk]

Oh, yeah. Yeah. So anyway, it's thought crime Thursday, but it's also election week, so we got to vote.

[Tyler Bowyer]

We're gonna hit everything. We're gonna hit everything.

[Charlie Kirk]

So just first, Jack, the good news out of Pennsylvania.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah. So that. Which was prophesized about 24 hours ago has come to pass. So here's what I said. What did I say last night? That we're gonna get some more drops out of Cambria county, and then AP is gonna call it. And it took a while, took a lot longer than we thought. Initially we thought it may be 10pm last night. Then we thought maybe 8am this morning Eastern time. Didn't happen. Didn't happen. Didn't happen. Then finally, basically this afternoon, or I think around 4pm Eastern, some of the drops started coming in. And this is Cambria County. This is that western county of Pennsylvania. That's a strong like 70, 30, Trump County. And they got a big drop in they. Not completely, though. It's still only about two thirds of the county has come in. This was the one where they had to extend the times because of the scanner issue that they had out there. Anyway, long story short, bunch of Trump votes came in. They were for McCormick as well. The margin was very favorable to Dave McCormick. And the math is the math. And Philadelphia has finished their count. So the AP did make the call for Dave McCormick this afternoon. However, comma, people like John Fetterman, people like Josh Shapiro, and then of course, Bob Casey himself have not conceded the race. And this is the big issue.

[Tyler Bowyer]

Bob Casey is being an election denier.

[Charlie Kirk]

True election denier, indeed.

[Tyler Bowyer]

I hope Mark Elias tries To disbar everyone on Bob Casey's.

[Jack Posobiec]

No, Mark Elias is out there, too.

[Tyler Bowyer]

Oh, are we going to have to disbar Mark Elias? Oh, no.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yes.

[Jack Posobiec]

Let me pull the. Let me pull the tweet up.

[Blake Masters]

We gotta start. We gotta start filing sanctions against Mark Elias, against everybody. I mean, that's all I could think about all day long today is how many sanctions can we file in four years against liberal.

[Jack Posobiec]

Tyler was texting me, like, all day, like, jack, sanctions, sanctions, sanctions. Sanction these guys. Sanction those guys.

[Blake Masters]

I just woke up just saying sanctions this morning.

[Charlie Kirk]

So there you go.

[Jack Posobiec]

Bark Elias. The Pennsylvania Senate race is not over more soon. And he said that about an hour after. There's that guy Jarvis is in the comments, is going, mark, Trump stole the election and you have to do something, Mark. You have to stop him.

[Blake Masters]

Sanctions.

[Jack Posobiec]

It's so delicious.

[Charlie Kirk]

Oh, by the way, the left is like, they're in full election denial mode right now.

[Blake Masters]

Oh, I mean, I'm screenshotting everything.

[Tyler Bowyer]

It's so amazing. The ones who are just like, how is it possible?

[Charlie Kirk]

It's also worse than anything we saw from the right.

[Tyler Bowyer]

Like, it's so great. Like, they're just like, how is it possible that we could have got this many votes four years ago? Oh, no, wait, hold on.

[Charlie Kirk]

Doesn't that. We're only on Rumble right now so we could be candidly. Wait, you mean that 2020 wasn't legit?

[Tyler Bowyer]

Yeah, it's amazing.

[Charlie Kirk]

Like, it's just. It's kind of like the greatest cell phone ever.

[Blake Masters]

It is. It's so funny.

[Tyler Bowyer]

Like, it's big picture. You know how I am. I'm not as much of a skeptic of 2020 as everyone else is, but, like, what's great is in the public imagination. This just totally discredits it. Like, either it was outright fraud or it was, you know, it was rigged in some other manner as we've discussed about. And, like, it just is now not a legitimate win in people's eyes. Like, oh, wow, Trump won twice in a row. And then this weird anomaly happened in 2020.

[Blake Masters]

Now I've seen people say, oh, but it was Covid. The left, literally, people were tweeting today that we needed to have another Covid.

[Tyler Bowyer]

No, it's even crazier than that.

[Blake Masters]

We need another pandemic to prevent people on the left.

[Tyler Bowyer]

You think turnout was reduced in 2020. They'll be like, they got that she got 81 million votes in a pandemic when he could have had even more. And now we have no Pandemic. And you had less like that. This is literally their thought process. And it's even better because one of the people freaking out was the Mueller she wrote person. So at this point, she has this name for her dumb podcast that's like 18 insane news obsessions ago, incredibly stale and out of date, and still has her dumb detective, like, sim, like logo. So bad. So funny.

[Charlie Kirk]

Now I know what you're talking about. It's the Esquire. Is this the one that. The Esquire?

[Tyler Bowyer]

I think so.

[Charlie Kirk]

There's this one woman who is like, I am a certified lawyer. I will take the lawsuits and reverse this. And Kamala will be president. And she's like, actually a bar, like, certified lawyer. I got to find out who this is. No. The left wing election denial is the best I've ever seen. So it's. It's really something. And so. Okay, Tyler, we won't spend too much time on this because this stream will live beyond and post as a podcast. But just as it's right now, Kari Lake is 52,000 votes in the hole. Yeah.

[Blake Masters]

So Carrie Lake right now is 52,000 down. Totally. Plenty of votes out there still. There's a million. Just shy of a million votes, we believe. I just sent you over the graphic. We can talk about it later on the stream beyond this. But this is. We have basically just for everyone listening at home right now, we have 500,000 or so ballots left in Maricopa county, and the rest are across the rest of the state. The only ugly part outside of the rest of the state is Pima, which so far has been getting offset and then some by the remainder of the rural counties. So the idea right now is basically if you can break even or do a little bit better in Maricopa county.

[Charlie Kirk]

If she starts winning 51 or 52% of Maricopa, that would be great.

[Blake Masters]

Yeah. If she does that, it's. She put. Puts herself in a really good position.

[Charlie Kirk]

If she starts getting. Losing by two or three points in Maricopa, we're gonna have a problem.

[Blake Masters]

It's a real problem. Yeah. And so. But look, what they're saying is because Maricopa county makes his way around all day long for some reason to issue any kind of drops. So it's.

[Charlie Kirk]

It's literally dysfunctional.

[Blake Masters]

Charlie, it's been 24 hours, and they still haven't dropped anything. They're supposed to drop it an hour ago, and they're allegedly.

[Charlie Kirk]

What kind of votes are these?

[Blake Masters]

These are all early mail ballots. So they're mail Ballots that came allegedly on Thursday and Friday of last week. So those. It's. We're supposed to be getting about 200 to 250,000 of these. So that may be Thursday, Friday, Saturday, maybe even Sunday. And then my guess is, is that they're going to do either a combination of Sunday, Monday and then Tuesday for the last drop, which is the other 250,000. But people are already speculating they may. All of a sudden there might appear more ballots, there might be additional bouts. And we remember this from two years ago and four years ago was like, we thought they were done. And then all of a sudden they're like, oh, actually we just found these 300,000 ballots. So we still have to count and it's going to go another week.

[Tyler Bowyer]

I think I found my favorite example of how bad the left has gotten at this whole we should count ballots thing. There's a house race in California, the 12th district. It's Oakland. They have only 28% of their ballots counted.

[Blake Masters]

They don't have the A's there anymore. Okay, Moneyball doesn't work.

[Charlie Kirk]

That's unbelievable.

[Tyler Bowyer]

28, 28%. That's the.

[Blake Masters]

The Oakland A's took all the calculators out of Oakland and they took them to Vegas.

[Charlie Kirk]

I just.

[Blake Masters]

Sacramento.

[Charlie Kirk]

They'll have it by Thanksgiving. They'll have half the votes count.

[Blake Masters]

Yeah, it's just.

[Tyler Bowyer]

What in the world?

[Blake Masters]

But here's the funniest part on Twitter. I'm noticing this on Twitter and maybe it's a little bit of a echo chambers now, but I think there's still liberals on there. People, normal people are going like, normal, like Normie. Just regular, average people are going, this shouldn't work this way. We get it.

[Charlie Kirk]

Like Byron York.

[Tyler Bowyer]

Byron York is just dunking. And Garrett Archer is on Twitter. No, you don't understand.

[Charlie Kirk]

Byron York is very establishment regime. And. And then all he was like, hey, why is this? And Garrett Archer's like, you don't understand the way we do things here.

[Blake Masters]

It's supposed to be long. It's like, guys, no, I was the county chair 10 years ago. I was a 27 year old or whatever I was when I was county chair. And over 10 years ago, 27 year old. And it didn't work this way. It was actually so much better because they did precinct tabulation got there. It was fast. People were like, oh, okay, I can feel good and go to sleep and feel good that we kind of know what's going on here. Of course there was leftovers, but they worked really diligently to get through them. This is like intentional civic terrorism is what I think we called it two years ago was civic terrorism.

[Charlie Kirk]

It really is, though.

[Blake Masters]

This is civic terrorism.

[Charlie Kirk]

It's just bad for everybody involved, though.

[Blake Masters]

Everyone. Yeah, everyone. It's basically just like you feel like because you're imprisoned in this whole system, right? You're imprisoned. This is one of the things that we. That the average citizen in America, you have control over almost everything in your life. This is right up there with taxes and you have no control. And so when people get involved and then they. They start messing with things that you have no control over, you feel very much like you're in prison. And that's what's so sick. I think about this whole thing is so anti American is these civic terrorists that live for this. They like get off on it. They love it. This is like their whole. This is what they live for so much that the guy lost. He couldn't take it anymore. Steven Richard deletes his Twitter today.

[Charlie Kirk]

Are you serious?

[Blake Masters]

Did you not know that?

[Charlie Kirk]

I just. I thought he like blocked people. I know he deleted it.

[Blake Masters]

He deleted his Twitter. And so everyone's going, I don't know about Carrie Lake. I don't know if Carrie wasn't doing so well. I don't know if Steven Richard be deleting his Twitter.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yep.

[Blake Masters]

So it's a good sign. It's a little bit of a white pill in this moment, but this is how bad of public servants you have is like he can't even handle seeing this thing through in a world that he helped create.

[Charlie Kirk]

That's right.

[Blake Masters]

That's weird that that's. That is the hallmark of like the Soviet era, is it not, Jack? Like these people like finding themselves in predicaments they created for themselves within. Yeah.

[Jack Posobiec]

What's interesting about liberal society. Yeah, it's like, it's like. And Marxists in general is that they love government, but they're actually like, not very good at it. Because keep in mind, these are the type of people who couldn't actually do anything in the real world. They don't have any competency and they're. I literally wrote a whole book about this that they're not competent to actually do anything. So their only quality is loyalty to the party itself. And as such, they're just not going to find competent people. I mean, I. Blake, we've talked about the Singapore model of civic service before and I just. I really would love to see America eventually get to that point as a way of actually hiring competent people in government. And also keeping the government as small as possible and keeping the activists as far away from possible as getting there.

[Charlie Kirk]

Now, let's talk about our project 2025.

[Tyler Bowyer]

Yeah, yeah, let's hit that. So it's back, everybody.

[Jack Posobiec]

Charlie, no, no, what are you doing?

[Charlie Kirk]

No, wait, is there election next week.

[Jack Posobiec]

Selection in two years?

[Charlie Kirk]

No, we have our own project 2025 that we do. So we want to go around the horn of what we really want to see Trump do.

[Tyler Bowyer]

Yeah, I think so. Yeah. Like what's our 2025, our month one, our first hundred days agenda? Trump administration comes in, there's stuff you can do. What do we want it to be?

[Blake Masters]

I just, I just realized it's post election. We're on Thought Crime.

[Charlie Kirk]

Just like, no, it's like unbelievable. You could say whatever you want. And we won.

[Jack Posobiec]

Thursday is like Christmas. It will always come.

[Charlie Kirk]

And we won.

[Jack Posobiec]

Thought Crime. Thursday is unstoppable.

[Blake Masters]

This episode we're gonna have to.

[Charlie Kirk]

And we're all like, if Josh Shapiro.

[Jack Posobiec]

Had been the vice presidential pick, the show would have been very different.

[Tyler Bowyer]

Right now.

[Blake Masters]

This is like 18 years worth of Media Matters content tonight.

[Charlie Kirk]

I mean, you guys go first. I mean, by the way, it is a all you can eat buffet right now at the federal government.

[Blake Masters]

So can we recap real quick, Ed? I thought so. Lori Roberts, who writes for the Arizona Republic, she hates us. She hates every conservative. She wrote this article that said today op ed.

[Charlie Kirk]

Was I mentioned or.

[Blake Masters]

No, no, no, no. The op ed was the Democrats should be sending Kyrsten Sidma thank you. Package right now because she protected the filibuster. Can you imagine if the Democrats would have eliminated the filibuster last year? Now where we would be, it wouldn't be coming back. And then we would have a Freedom Caucus controlled House, no filibuster that the Democrats employed and Donald Trump. But now we're not going to get rid of the filibuster. It's terrible.

[Tyler Bowyer]

Yeah, I have mixed feelings on that.

[Blake Masters]

Well, I know you do, of course.

[Charlie Kirk]

All right, all right. So I'm going to Mar a Lago. I'm hang out. I'm going to be doing the whole program. We're. We're taking the whole machine to Palm beach for a week. The machinery is setting up as a beachhead. What should I try to get done?

[Tyler Bowyer]

What should we try to get done? Ah, man, you're right. It is a big menu.

[Charlie Kirk]

You go, I gotta take this.

[Tyler Bowyer]

Yeah, of course. Oh, well, Charlie runs off. I guess I can't tell, but I can tell you, Tyler and then you.

[Blake Masters]

Can tell him, oh, and Jack, I.

[Tyler Bowyer]

Feel like you come out like a cannonball on your biggest promises. I think some of the stuff you can do is you can try to secure the border right away. You just bring back every policy that worked that you figured out a lot of stuff. Took us till the very end of Trump's administration to really start figuring out how you durably secure the border. Get that all back in place, put it in right away, and you can make a big deal of announcing it. Like, oh, yeah, that program we have that you can sign up on that app to come to America. Yeah, we're shutting that down. We're deleting that app from the App Store even. And you make a showy thing of that. That would be a great way to start. I think you can make a great show of obviously repealing a bunch of bad Biden executive orders on all sorts of things, maybe even revive stuff that was late in the Trump administration and that got taken back. So bring back the. Right away that, that executive order he was doing with education where like, you can't basically do discrimination based, novel idea, you can't discriminate based on race. And that includes, like white people.

[Blake Masters]

Yeah.

[Tyler Bowyer]

And start applying that to have that in place right away to apply it to colleges so that it can start having an impact by your third year, by your fourth year.

[Blake Masters]

Totally.

[Tyler Bowyer]

Really forces behavioral changes.

[Blake Masters]

Yeah, that would be a massive shift. Jack, what do you think?

[Jack Posobiec]

So Machiavelli writes in the prints very famously that for the need for swiftness and bold action, so that if you're going to make new changes, you make the new rules right away. You fire people who need to be fired right away. I mean, I would, I would just start with like firing all sorts of people. Pentagon over Afghanistan. I would start with firing like the heads of every single intel agency. I mean, just clean sweep, just clean sweep over all of these. Now, some of that stuff is stuff that would happen anyway. Then look, you got to do the mass deportations. You just absolutely have to do the mass deportations. This is. And this, there is a mandate to do this now because this was very clearly the top campaign promise made by President Trump. So was that in addition to the tariffs on China. So it's the mass deportations, it's the tariffs on China. And I'm talking like first 24 hours, we need to see these things done right away. And then on, I guess, like a more wonky policy level. Schedule F. So Schedule F gives you the ability not only to fire the people that are political appointees, but anybody else in the federal government. And as Blake was saying that this was one of those things that came up, I think, like literally in October of 2020, that it like just took effect when, when, when President Trump had the, you know, when the election happened in 2020. So it wasn't really enough time to do much about it, but it's just something that should immediately be brought back, schedule f have the entire federal government in there. And honestly, and I'm just going to say it, you know, anything that can be done to, look, Steve Bannon goes on trial in a month here in New York City. And anything that can be done to get Juan Rochan to drop those charges, to say, obviously this was a political witch hunt to begin with. I think that needs to be done.

[Blake Masters]

I have a really controversial one.

[Jack Posobiec]

Ooh, that not everybody's gonna like you controversial.

[Blake Masters]

How could you. So I, I think to appease and you know, we have all this going on on the pro life front because it's not going to end that we should make it illegal to go over state lines to get an abortion.

[Jack Posobiec]

Whoa.

[Blake Masters]

You can move that.

[Jack Posobiec]

Wouldn't you need a.

[Blake Masters]

Let me give you some.

[Jack Posobiec]

Because that gets into federalism issues. Wouldn't you have, wouldn't you have a, a constitutional issue with that?

[Blake Masters]

I don't, but let me, let me.

[Jack Posobiec]

Tell you, I'm not saying that you do. I'm just saying. No, Blake, I'm just saying that wouldn't, that, wouldn't they bring that up or something?

[Blake Masters]

Everything that Donald Trump's gonna do is gonna, he's gonna get, you know, but here, here's what my thinking is. Let me tell the, Let me tell you the political reason for this. They'll force Democrats out of our even purplish states. It'll automatically. Because they made such a big deal about it. It's not even about the issue of, you know, prosecuting people who cross state lines. It's, it's because I do. I hear what you're saying, Jack. It's the pure politico in me saying if we did that, what would naturally happen, it would destroy the Democrats is everyone would move to California and New York now and then, and then, you.

[Tyler Bowyer]

Know, that's one possibility I would worry about the other possibility, which is we have gotten our first kind of pro life state level wins in Florida, in South Dakota. And I suspect part of the reason we were able to do that is people could justify people who really want one could go to another state.

[Blake Masters]

See this would be the argument that this.

[Tyler Bowyer]

But now one will lose those votes from now on. So we'll have worse laws at about pro life level, at the state level. And we'll also like we'll. So we'll lose those elect votes from now on. What will you probably damage ourselves? Well, like let's say if we did that policy and we brought that Florida bill up again, I think it would pass this time. That's what I'm saying could happen.

[Blake Masters]

Yeah, but they already passed the law.

[Tyler Bowyer]

Well, they passed the law but they could vote on the measure again. Like they could just try the exact same amendment.

[Blake Masters]

But it would already be too late because everyone left.

[Tyler Bowyer]

But I just don't know all the Democrats that many would leave right away. I think you'd still have like they.

[Blake Masters]

Made abortion their number one issue bigger than anything else.

[Tyler Bowyer]

True enough, true enough.

[Blake Masters]

It's so big it would force them to either have to stop talking about abortion or everyone would have to move. I'm telling you, I'm just saying it's a political, it's political jiu jitsu and it would force all the. At minimum.

[Charlie Kirk]

What crazy ideas do I have to push for this weekend?

[Blake Masters]

Don't push. But don't push for this one. But I told you before, it's a purely political move. But it's make it federal crime to cross state lines to get an abortion. And the outcome of this is that it would force all the Democrats that believe this is their number one issue to move immediately out of purple on red states.

[Charlie Kirk]

Interesting.

[Blake Masters]

So the red states would become redder like, like what's happened in Florida already to the point. And then the purple states where this is so important, where they can no longer they just be like, this is my number one, I believe in women's rights. Okay, well then move over the border from Nevada and Arizona and live in California.

[Charlie Kirk]

So let me tell you the couple I will be pushing for. We're getting rid of affirmative action in federal hiring practices by executive order. Not me, but if we can convince the president, like meaning we're going to push for that. Vivek pinpointed this by executive order. Affirmative action. It's going to be merit based hiring in the federal government. Number two, the federal president Presidential Reorganization act will allow us to hire civil fire civil service employees at will.

[Tyler Bowyer]

Yeah, we should bring back, bring back a civil service exam too.

[Blake Masters]

That's it. That's.

[Tyler Bowyer]

We had one like the Carter administration had one and got rid of it on Reagan and they never got any.

[Charlie Kirk]

You want like a super Thought crime one that I probably won't, that we won't get able to get done. Privatize the tsa.

[Tyler Bowyer]

Oh, yeah, that would be amazing. Trump should have run on that. If Trump ran on Privatiz privatizing the tsa, he'd have won New Jersey or.

[Jack Posobiec]

Just did he ever bring up the shoes? I know they were talking about like him bring saying that you can leave your shoes on. I can't remember if he ever actually said it.

[Charlie Kirk]

What?

[Tyler Bowyer]

Trump just like not having to take your shoes off.

[Charlie Kirk]

It's ridiculous.

[Tyler Bowyer]

Just come out and be like, no, we're making it the 90s again.

[Charlie Kirk]

If you privatize the TSA to a private service and you say you cannot allow someone to wait in line more than 15 minutes, figure it out. Right? Come up with a screening, by the way. It'll be safer, it'll be better. And yeah, I mean, current TSA agents, you could do it away where they can apply for jobs with this private so that, you know, you don't have like a ton of people losing jobs. But it has to be merit, right? So you got to prove that you can do the job. So you have some sort of deal with whatever private firm that all the, you know, try to fill the positions with current federal employees. Meaning, you know, like a one to one and that's it. And then you just say, the TSA is now privatized as a federal contractor. You have a two year contract with the federal government. And we're going to, we're going to, we're going to independently audit you of how many bogey weapons make it through. So you go through like Denver Airport with like a fake gun. You know, as an auditor, can you make it through? You know what I mean?

[Tyler Bowyer]

You'd even do it. You can even do it on an airport by airport basis to competition and all.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yes. And then, then you, I'm telling you right now, privatizing the TSA will go down as one of the great, like, people will see a before and after and a Republican will be able to run. Right. Tyler for reelection. Be like, I got weight lines at the airport down by 90%. It's safer than ever before. I'm not kidding. Like, this is a real thing that you want to talk about. It's better for the country, Jack. Don't you agree? I mean, how many times we spend time in airports like Tyler, it's been.

[Jack Posobiec]

Wait, wait, Charlie, so what are the logistics of this? Because people look at TSA as a quote unquote security force. You know, technically they're law enforcement. So how do you have private law enforcement?

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, first of all, you could still have TSA agents supervised. I mean, you could still have TSA agents enforce the violation. It's no different than you have, like, a private security firm at the Department of Justice that makes sure that. Or, like the janitors at the Department of Justice. Right.

[Blake Masters]

There's private security all over the government.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, of course. I mean, and you have private contractors all over the government. Right. It's not like some unknown thing. We have private prisons, by the way. That's a great example. So you just say that the 99% of the work, by the way, the speed, the efficiency will all go on. And by the way, you have tell the company that gets it, and Blake is right. You can open it up for five different contracts and say, okay, you guys get O'Hare, Minneapolis, Milwaukee, Cleveland, and Detroit. You guys get Atlanta, Hartsfield, Orlando, Miami. You guys get Phoenix, L.A. and Denver. We're going to see who actually does the best job over three years, and whoever does gets the big daddy, you know, federal contract. By the way, if we're just, like. Just so we're clear, the TSA budget right now is $11 billion. That's insane. Okay. Like, insane. You want to talk about the Department of Government Efficiency? Like, by the way, just so we're clear, part of your airline ticket goes to the TSA. Like, that's on top. Like, there's, like, a $25. You know? You guys know that, right? There's a 25 search.

[Jack Posobiec]

How does clear work?

[Charlie Kirk]

Clear is a separate thing through the Department of Homeland Security where they take your biometrics. I think it's really creepy now, now, Cliff.

[Jack Posobiec]

Right. But are. But are they. But are they. Are they contractors? I think they are.

[Charlie Kirk]

I'm gonna ask right now. Which is. It's a private membership program that allows members to. Speed up. Let me see. It's.

[Jack Posobiec]

It is the T. Basically, it would be like. It's like what you're talking about, Basically.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yes. I'm trying to see. It's actually. You're right. Clear ME is not a federal government website. It is a private company. You're right. Yeah. Clear is a private company.

[Blake Masters]

Yeah. Clears private.

[Charlie Kirk]

So, yeah, this is not that crazy.

[Tyler Bowyer]

Yeah.

[Blake Masters]

So it's already there. It's already halfway there.

[Charlie Kirk]

It's.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, it's already kind of.

[Charlie Kirk]

If.

[Jack Posobiec]

What I'm saying is this is already kind of in service. It's just. We call it clear. But you see them. They're not every. They're not in every airport. They're in like, let's see, 55 plus airport stadiums and other venues. And they do.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah.

[Jack Posobiec]

And it's. It's privately used. Yo. So, yeah, we're on. We're on Thought crime, Right? Wait, because I want. I do want to say something about clear, since we're on the subject and you just mentioned this. I had a buddy who was applying for clear. Made it through. Made it all the way through the selection process, made it all the way up. And it was for like a management position. And they basically straight up told him that we can't hire you because you're a white male.

[Charlie Kirk]

And of course, I mean, that's why we're getting. Again, if we're able to get rid of affirmative action, you'll have a better government. Your government will work better if we have merit based hiring. Okay? Merit based hiring. Best people get the jobs. You'll just get a better product out of your federal government. Cliff, as the libertarian guy, do you like, do you like the way this conversation is going?

[Cliff Maloney]

Cliff, listen, I was like, man, am I really going to sit with these guys for five hours? And when I. Come on, it's privatizing the TSA look, my favorite, my favorite statistic. And I still can't believe they put this out. You know, they did a study, I think it was 2015, where they had the FBI go undercover, right, and try to sneak in illegal Items through the TSA. 95%. And when I say that people are like, oh, 5% of it failed. 95% of the time, they were able to get illegal substances, weapons, all of these banned items. 95% of the time. The guys in blue, the 400 pound people that are supposed to protect us and keep us safe, they got it through.

[Jack Posobiec]

So, Cliff, I'll do you one better on that. So which is. It totally lines up. So when I worked, I'm not going to say where it was, but when I was in the intelligence community, Navy intel, so I was attached to an EOD unit. So that's explosive ordinance Disposal. And at one point we were running operations where we would get one of the EOD guys to run Rumble. Right? Okay, so we're not on YouTube, right? Are we on YouTube?

[Charlie Kirk]

Nope, nope. You are free to speak.

[Jack Posobiec]

Okay. So we would get guys to make fake bombs. And what it would be would be like. When I say fake, I mean, like it would look like it had all the components of an explosive device, like an ied, but it wouldn't have any of the actual, you know, Material to make it, you know, go boom. But it would be like a soda can hidden in a Dorito bag, and all of the components inside would just, you know, look on an X ray device as if it was a bomb. And then we would. We would work with the airport to basically get someone a. Basically, what they called it, like a white ticket. So you'd get a ticket that you could go through and show someone, and it would scan, but, you know, you wouldn't actually have a seat on the plane because it would all be worked out. And basically what my intelligence specialist would do is I would have my guys go, because I was the N2, so. So I would have all my intelligence specialists. You know, just, you know, once in a while, someone go down in plain clothes and then put the Dorito bag in their bag with the fake bomb inside and see if they could get it through. And it was like, it's exactly what Cliff is saying almost every single time we were able to get this thing through. And it just felt bad. I remember my specialist coming back saying how awkward it was because then after you got it through, you act. My guys actually had to go and sit with the employee as the supervisor explained what just happened and show them the device. And it was like, yeah, it was really bad.

[Charlie Kirk]

Other ideas that we have, I mean, there's a lot of pardons that I think need to happen. Nonviolent January, six people are out of the gate. He's promised that. But we got to make sure that my emphasis.

[Tyler Bowyer]

I was really thinking, think of all the stuff, like, there was a lot of sense Trump was really hitting his stride in 2020. Not even Covid stuff, but hitting the stride on, you know, civil rights stuff, on the border, on government organization. And then all of that got poofed, you know, when Biden just retracted everything day one. I think you want to restore as much of that as possible as quickly as possible. So you create the vibe of. This is the immediate continuation of where we were in 2020, rather than taking a long time to build all of that back up. And so I was putting the emphasis on get the border, all of that. Get that online as quickly as possible. Get your. You could even bring back some of the cheesier stuff we were doing by 2020. Bring. Bring back that idea of the garden of American heroes with all the statues. Bring that back. That'd be great.

[Jack Posobiec]

I love that.

[Tyler Bowyer]

Have it ready by the semi centennial or whatever it was.

[Blake Masters]

So I have two really big ones that absolutely have to be done. Yeah, go ahead and they're in there. Since we're in election mode anyways right now they're election related. We talked about this. Number one is we got to get rid of the federal only the federal only voter registration.

[Charlie Kirk]

Explain more.

[Blake Masters]

The federal only voter registration is the biggest mistake that's ever been made in America. This is how they're sneaking in illegals to get registered to vote. It should not exist. We should have that gone. It's a threat to our entire republic by allowing this New York, California to sneak in all these new voters to do the federal only veteran registration. The second thing that we have to absolutely do is we have to have a lot more crackdown on the Yokava votes that we talked about.

[Charlie Kirk]

Totally. So Yokava votes, how do you fix this without Congress? Because that's what I'm thinking about. Because there's a whole different, like I'm talking about federal stuff like, you know, executive branch.

[Blake Masters]

Well, everything with the. In that, in that frame is all supported by the executive branch. So you defund the departments that are the ones that are overseeing all of it and that brings it to a screeching halt and forces Congress to actually do something about it right now. We'll have a, we'll have the trifecta. So the President calling for this and for sure our Freedom Caucus members are all over this because the election integrity issues out there are huge. But quite. And everybody needs to understand this at home, if you don't have this fixed and also a federal voter ID law that's put into place. But if you don't have this fixed right away, you're in big trouble. The President could defund like I've seen other people talk about defunding the IRS and things like that. The executive branch can defund so much, stop things from happening that forces Congress to the table to actually pass laws to get it done. It's just so rarely that a president does that.

[Charlie Kirk]

I think that we have to get a federal criminal investigation into Act Blue, just an investigation. We have to figure out how it's possible, we said this yesterday, that they are able to have this kind of hard money, small money, cash advantage. And if there's nothing there, then the investigation will yield nothing. But it's almost certainly some form of foreign, you know, in general, like foreign.

[Tyler Bowyer]

Money out of politics would be a good goal. What I mean, what if you even just said like, yeah, we're going to actually treat Fara more seriously.

[Charlie Kirk]

You guys use federal agent registration.

[Tyler Bowyer]

Yeah. You just like you guys use this against Paul Manafort you guys use this against some of our people, and we're just gonna say across the board, all right, we're gonna be a lot stricter in how this is applied.

[Charlie Kirk]

Like that. That Swiss billionaire.

[Tyler Bowyer]

And you could even announce. Announce it six months in advance and be like, start registering in six months. We're taking this really seriously.

[Blake Masters]

Yep.

[Charlie Kirk]

There are other. Other structural stuff, all the border stuff. Stephen Miller's gonna just have a feast. Like, I mean, we're gonna have the most secure border ever. On the train stuff, Charlie. Yep. Mm.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, just on that question, then. So to get that done, we do need the right personnel. Do you think? What would you put Stephen Miller at? Like, Secretary of Homeland Security, Deputy Chief of. Something like that?

[Charlie Kirk]

Deputy Chief of Staff. Here's why.

[Jack Posobiec]

Number one, that's smart.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. And so, number one, Stephen Miller is by far the highest iq, most based, capable person I've ever dealt with in that kind of Trump policy world. It's not even close.

[Blake Masters]

Yeah.

[Charlie Kirk]

Number two, Susie's amazing. However, it is unlikely she lasts the entire term. It's nothing against her. There's almost never a chief of staff that lasts the entire term. You couldn't ask me? You can ask.

[Jack Posobiec]

It's like, press secretaries don't last.

[Charlie Kirk]

It's just because it grinds you down. And it's just like, yeah, it's a year. Even Rahm Emanuel only lasted a year. Right. And then it just grinds you down. So you need a deputy that's ready to then fulfill the mandate. Right. And just so we're clear, Tyler, can you please create shirts at Turning Point action and signs? Fulfill the mandate.

[Blake Masters]

Yes.

[Charlie Kirk]

That is. That is. That is the C Fours. Right, Cliff, all of us, we need to be proposing. Hashtag fulfill the mandate. Right, Jack? That is the three words that the base needs to say over the next.

[Jack Posobiec]

And promises made, promises kept.

[Charlie Kirk]

Oh, by the way, we have some.

[Jack Posobiec]

Keep the promise.

[Charlie Kirk]

We have some Pennsylvania news here, by the way, that's breaking Cliff, that Jack can walk you through, but let me finish while you guys process this. And I just want to kind of go through this. Is that the. As we say, to fulfill the mandate, the element that Stephen Miller at Deputy Chief of staff, he'll be able to then basically be the boss of the Department of Homeland Security in the first term. Every cabinet kind of operated as its own. No, they report to the president. So he'll be able to then go into Department of Transportation, Department of Homeland Security. He'll be able to kind of swoop into all these things, and there's Just so much good stuff that could be done.

[Tyler Bowyer]

Like what? When we've had James Bacon on the show, he's talked about that there's so much you can do where Even if we've talked about reclassifying federal employees. But he said one of the things that was underutilized is you basically, you tell someone, hey, I need you to do this, or I need a report on this, and they'll blow you off. And he said there's huge power of. If you send someone, either the secretary themselves or someone with White House, and they say, yeah, where is this? And they're like, we don't have it. And you go, oh, you don't have it. You're fired.

[Cliff Maloney]

Thanks.

[Charlie Kirk]

That's the other thing. So then you're fired for other thing. Day one that needs to get done is the reclassification. I think I said this to fire civil service employees at will.

[Blake Masters]

Yes.

[Charlie Kirk]

And to invoke schedule after. Whatever they call it.

[Tyler Bowyer]

Yeah, something like that. What's great about that is even without that, you can fire for cause, you can say, yeah, you didn't do your job. You were ordered to do this and.

[Charlie Kirk]

You didn't, that you're fired. And then, honestly, the more ballsy stuff that I'm gonna push for is mass reconsolidation, which is, wait, why do we have a Department of Education again? And, like, you don't need Congress for that. You can actually use it through the Presidential Reorganization Act. And if there's any. It said the law is written that if there is duplication in any agency, you can merge them together. And so there's so many examples of this, like the EPA and the Department of Energy is a duplication. We don't need two different agencies for something that effectively, the mandate is the same thing. So EPA gets merged with Department of Energy. Okay, well, then Commerce, which is another huge one. What? Commerce might be the most important thing. Why Census. We messed up. You know that. You know that the Electoral College, it was.

[Tyler Bowyer]

Yeah, it came down 26 votes, guys.

[Charlie Kirk]

Do you know that? Not vote or 26 people. Do you know that 26 human beings in the U.S. census in Minnesota gave them an extra electoral vote? Did you know that?

[Jack Posobiec]

Yes, I saw that. I knew that.

[Charlie Kirk]

So they gained the census so bad that they were so. By the way, the Commerce sets the tone for the census every 10 years. So there's just so much there.

[Tyler Bowyer]

There's so much weird stuff. Like for the census, they keep wanting to create new groups to measure in the census for basically the purpose of so we can give them special federal contracts because they're like a discriminated against minority group. So, like, this upcoming census, they wanted to say, okay, we're creating a new group, mena, Middle East, North Africa. And so, like, you'll have a new group that we can hand out, like, shovel federal contracts to because we'll say they're underrepresented. And I feel like it's actually important for us to say, no, we're not going to constantly go inventing new groups for people to be a part of.

[Blake Masters]

Well, and you know why that's even more important is because those new groups that they create then aid the process for them creating majority minority groups when they do redistricting. And so what happens is, I mean, this is the entire game of doing the census is for the gamesmanship with redistricting at this point. And so you have redistricting, and obviously you have that. But they have to. They have to match. Whatever happens with redistricting is where you get the electoral college votes. So this is the problem that we have right now is they're aware, completely aware. They screwed this up last time, and it was actually Covid that did it. So Covid actually prevented. Do you realize this? We were supposed to get another district in Arizona, which they actually wanted because they thought they were going to flip Arizona permanently, and they were going to have three Hispanic majority minority districts here, and they didn't get it. And they actually screwed themselves out of one because of COVID didn't allow them to get enough of those numbers for the.

[Tyler Bowyer]

That's amazing.

[Charlie Kirk]

I want Cliff's ideas, but I just want to say God is so good that if this goes the way that it's trending, God knew what he was doing, not giving us a second Trump term because all the bad people are gone. And that we are literally building a team on transition. And otherwise that's like 90% good. You're gonna get 10% bad. It's just gonna happen. It's just a, you know, a rule of nature. You know, you could put them in charge of, you know, the neocon stuff will be the hardest fights. I'm gonna be honest. I'm not getting involved in that, like, on, like, detaching from some of the deep Pentagon stuff. But, like, okay, you know, I'll wage war against the teacher unions. I already have.

[Blake Masters]

Yeah.

[Charlie Kirk]

Do you know, like, that's. I'm not going to go against, like. But, like, Cliff, as a libertarian, I say this affectionately. What ideas do you have? I mean, this. Where are we Missing ideas. You've been like, if you like, one day I wish we could do xyz.

[Cliff Maloney]

So, yeah, day one, we free Ross Ulbricht. I don't know if we hit that yet. He should be free.

[Charlie Kirk]

Oh, that's Blake. Blake. How do I not advocate for that every day?

[Tyler Bowyer]

You advocate for all the time. I don't know why we're so in favor of.

[Charlie Kirk]

We're not doing that right now.

[Blake Masters]

Cliff.

[Charlie Kirk]

I totally agree. It is the biggest injustice by the doj, right, Tyler? He's made a promise. And here's the. The cool thing. So God willing, if God will keep us all healthy and alive until then, inauguration for Trump, fly to Atlanta for the Oregon Ducks playing in the national championship game, then fly to Tucson, Arizona for Ross Ulbricht's release. That's going to be my, hopefully my sequence. But yes, keep going, Cliff.

[Blake Masters]

I just got.

[Cliff Maloney]

We'll lock in that schedule. Look, I think the biggest thing as a libertarian is this idea, and I know you guys were chatting about it a little bit, but there really was never a time in my life where there's potential to legitimately cut 30 to 50% of these bureaucratic goons.

[Blake Masters]

Right.

[Cliff Maloney]

I mean, right now, when you have Vivek talking with Elon, Elon saying he wants to chat with Ron Paul, I mean, be still. My heart. Like, this is the libertarian pipe dream of just completely going in and gutting a lot of these corrupt systems, the rot in Washington, D.C. and so I don't want to, like, minimize that. You know, there are plenty of pet issues I care about, but I think that's going to be one of the major ones, is like, are we actually going to shrink the size of government? I just don't. I mean, even on our side, Republicans, I mean, we've struggled with that on a lot of case by case basis. The other thing I'd point to is the Fourth Amendment. I think with Trump being spied on, I think with a lot of the things that he's gone through, whether it's FBI, whether it's doj, whether it's CIA, I think there's just going to be so much of a light that shines on some of these things. I don't have specifics where I'm like, we want to do X, Y or Z. I just think opening the books and being able to get access to so many of these things, it's good for the American people, having truth and understanding. When your government has been corrupted, whether it's been done by past Republican presidents, Democrat presidents, rogue Actors. I do think that's one of the things that under Trump, the chip on his shoulder right now, after everything he's been through, they said they wouldn't impeach him. They did. They said they wouldn't charge him. They did. They said they wouldn't make him take a mugshot. They did. They shot the guy in the face. Right. I just think there's nobody more motivated to go in and expose some of these people that are just completely against the interest of us, the working class American folks. I think that's what excites me the most, is just his. Not his attitude, but just his incentives are completely aligned with defending the values of the American people. That should excite all of us.

[Charlie Kirk]

I love it. And as specifics come up, by the way, and I wanted to say to the audience, if you guys have ideas that we're missing, policy stuff, but just think about all this. Think about all the. All the other small stuff that we're gonna get done. No more transgender stuff in the military. No more transgenders in the military, period. Like, that needs to go, right, Blake, that was an order for a long time. Like, if you're transgender, you're not serving the US Military. End of story. Not a.

[Tyler Bowyer]

So that was True story. That was.

[Charlie Kirk]

Did that first.

[Tyler Bowyer]

That was. Obama was a policy to allow that.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yes.

[Tyler Bowyer]

And then it was early in Trump's term, and they hadn't reversed this yet. And so I was with Tucker Carlson show at the time, and this was like, spring 2017. And I was like, tucker, like, they haven't reversed this. It's really annoying. And Tucker's like, yeah, you're right. Like, we should write a thing about that. And so we did that, and then we talked about it that night. And then the next morning on Twitter, Trump is like, yeah, I'm. We're getting rid of that. And, like, you get these articles where these generals are all blindsided by this tweet. It was. It was so remarkable.

[Charlie Kirk]

So, I mean, just other. Other stuff that we're gonna do. For example, no more like gay poems on battleships. You know, dewoking the military, I think.

[Blake Masters]

Is good, basic stuff.

[Charlie Kirk]

No, no, but I'm just saying, like.

[Tyler Bowyer]

That you can frame it in such a good way.

[Charlie Kirk]

Like, this is good stuff. I mean, it's not stuff that you.

[Tyler Bowyer]

Need, but you can frame it in such a positive way, too. It doesn't need to be, like, even red meat for your base. You can just say, the purpose of the United States military is to protect America. We are going to de Emphasize and remove all of this extraneous political.

[Charlie Kirk]

We have a, we have a mandate to take woke out of our institutions. That is part of the mandate. Obviously, drill, baby, drill is easy. They don't need me for that. Right. But the other education, though stuff is obviously, you know, no men and women's sports. But it'd be really interesting to do investigations, deeper ones, into how these colleges are still using affirmative action and they're doing it against the Supreme Court. Right. They're totally defining it.

[Tyler Bowyer]

Yeah.

[Charlie Kirk]

And they're totally.

[Tyler Bowyer]

And, oh, Obama got so good at this. Where they would do these just far reaching DOJ investigations of police departments where you would investigate them for alleged racism. It was total sham investigations. You would say, like, oh, you pull over, you know, black men more often than other people. We're going to ring you up. And then you force them into these consent decrees where they're basically ordered to stop policing as much. And it was total nonsense, but they did that. So what you do is you can do these sorts of far ranging investigations and say, yeah, we'd like to see all of the emails that are sent internally by Harvard's admissions department. Because it was very interesting how you guys behaved all these years. And you just do that and you start, you really start putting the pressure on them to think about how their, how their behavior has interacted with the clear, plain text of federal law.

[Charlie Kirk]

Someone says, go ahead.

[Tyler Bowyer]

Yeah, one last thing. I want to bring back the executive order on architecture. Just say, what was it? Oh, so it was like he was saying, we're not gonna have the federal government build ugly buildings anymore. He's like, we're gonna have our official styles neoclassical. I even agree with, like, Steve Saylor. You could just have anything like before the Great Depression. Looks good.

[Blake Masters]

Yes.

[Tyler Bowyer]

I completely can be Spanish colonial, but none of this, like, ugly crap.

[Charlie Kirk]

Oh, that's another one. Give the land back. So go to Bureau of Land Management and do the greatest land transfer back to the states.

[Blake Masters]

Yes.

[Charlie Kirk]

BLM literally go to the department interior. Be like, hey, we're going to give back 200 million acres to Arizona.

[Blake Masters]

Trump talked about it in Nevada.

[Charlie Kirk]

Talked about it.

[Blake Masters]

He's talked about it.

[Charlie Kirk]

Very popular.

[Blake Masters]

We got to get a Republican governor here in Arizona to help, like, make it happen. But I was going to say, what about here's, here's kind of. I'm going to start with the easy one and then go to the harder one. First one is defunding pbs. Oh, NPR and npr.

[Charlie Kirk]

I totally agree. That has to go through Congress. I think it's worth shutting down the.

[Blake Masters]

Government, but you should shut the gut over npr.

[Charlie Kirk]

I will actively now advocate every day to make sure you are defund.

[Tyler Bowyer]

And they're going to resist you with a lot of radio programs, with a.

[Blake Masters]

Lot of defund pbs. But here's.

[Charlie Kirk]

Here's fund yourself. Oh, you can still exist. Fund yourself.

[Blake Masters]

Here's an excellent. What about federal subsidies for cable?

[Charlie Kirk]

No, we don't want it.

[Jack Posobiec]

No, we don't want to say, guys, there's something.

[Blake Masters]

There's something you don't want to get rid of cable.

[Jack Posobiec]

Very.

[Charlie Kirk]

Wait, hold on. Wait. Do we subsidize cable? Oh, we totally get rid of it. I didn't know. How do we subsidize it?

[Blake Masters]

The federal government gives, like, billions of dollars to cable to keep cable alive.

[Charlie Kirk]

Is that right?

[Blake Masters]

You can go through it? Yeah, there's all entire. There's entire infrastructures for this.

[Charlie Kirk]

Oh, cable. No, we should. We should stop subsidizing it.

[Blake Masters]

They should. We need no dollars to go to cable.

[Charlie Kirk]

I just totally agree with that.

[Blake Masters]

Just in cable, by the way.

[Charlie Kirk]

We need to put together, like, if you put together the brain trust of the conservative movement, aren't there think tanks that exist to do this, by the way? Like, all they do is to think, what if one day you'd think the name.

[Jack Posobiec]

That's the point of the name.

[Charlie Kirk]

But wait, wouldn't they, like, put together, like, a project and then name it?

[Blake Masters]

Whoa.

[Tyler Bowyer]

And it might even, like, be named after a year in administration.

[Charlie Kirk]

Like, don't they, like, think about all the things that they could do and, like, all the people that could do it and then. But they would never publish it, though.

[Tyler Bowyer]

Yeah, they definitely wouldn't. You wouldn't want to do that. You wouldn't publish upon it and lie about it. So you would never want to keep it against you. You want it to be private so that you. And then. Yeah, surely we.

[Jack Posobiec]

Before we.

[Tyler Bowyer]

We're the smart party.

[Jack Posobiec]

We do that too. Wonky. Before we get super wonky, there is something that needs to be said. Just because we promised it a million times and it's important that there are a lot of people currently languishing in prison called the J6ers, many of whom were completely, completely, you know, innocent or nonviolent or all these various things. So that review needs to be undertaken, I think, almost immediately. And I'd love to see day one. So, yeah. Russell Ulbricht, day one. J. Sixers, day one. There's just a number of people that need to be in those day one. Pardons or commutations.

[Charlie Kirk]

Your other ones.

[Tyler Bowyer]

Crap, I lost my train of thought. Everyone's like, I was saying, oh, yeah, just, you know, you could do worse. Reread your book from the summer. There was. There's the chapter with that lurid fantasy of like day one of the. Of a new Daisy.

[Charlie Kirk]

Get me a copy of my book. I think I have one behind me. I can get one.

[Blake Masters]

So many people that.

[Tyler Bowyer]

Yeah, that's right there.

[Cliff Maloney]

Yeah, I've been on the.

[Tyler Bowyer]

You standing up there. We got it. We got it. Oh, no. Foreigners boying us homes. That's. That's not a bad one.

[Charlie Kirk]

Can you do it by executive order?

[Tyler Bowyer]

Here, hand me one.

[Blake Masters]

I love this conversation. And for everybody in the chat too, because we have the people in the chat, they're going like, this is just a pipe dream. This doesn't make sense. I disagree with that. Disagree.

[Charlie Kirk]

Guys, this is not pipe dream. Well, first, I don't think you understand what's happening.

[Blake Masters]

First of all, we're also having fun. And you understand that just having this conversation alone is how you get to go ideas. We get to get it. But even more importantly, the left's minds are blowing right now. They're getting so upset just by the fact that this exists. They're going to. Media matter is going to report on this and then they're. They're going to get more mad. It's going to be great. Like just like play the game. Like help make them mad a little bit.

[Tyler Bowyer]

Okay, let's see the federal.

[Jack Posobiec]

While you're looking that up.

[Charlie Kirk]

Guys, did we talk Elias or no?

[Jack Posobiec]

Verify.

[Charlie Kirk]

Did we talk Elias when I was gone or no.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah.

[Charlie Kirk]

No, with Pennsylvania.

[Jack Posobiec]

No, we did not know.

[Charlie Kirk]

Hey, Cliff, did you see Elias's tweet? He says there's a hundred thousand ballots to be adjudicated in Pennsylvania. What does that mean with a 30,000 vote advantage for McCormick. Did you see that tweet?

[Cliff Maloney]

No, I'm looking at it now.

[Charlie Kirk]

I guess that some of those are.

[Jack Posobiec]

A lot of those are Trump balance provisionals. Yeah, we're from.

[Cliff Maloney]

I mean, that tracks with 2020 numbers, right? 2020. There were 100,000 provisionals.

[Blake Masters]

Well, this is a provisional.

[Cliff Maloney]

Once again, listen.

[Blake Masters]

Different.

[Jack Posobiec]

So it's. He was talking. It's. Well, Cliff, it does say later in the. So he's quote, tweeting at Department of State tweet and it says, we estimate there are a hundred thousand ballots remaining to be adjudicated, including provisional military overseas and election day vote. We urge patience with election workers, blah, blah, blah. So those votes and correct me if I'm wrong, but those votes usually track with the overall vote of the state.

[Blake Masters]

So this is where we had issues, and we've had issues in many states with this because the left manipulates the adjudication process depending upon the county. But adjudicated ballots are ones that have issues, errors, mistakes, cross throughs, folds, things like that. So what they do is they don't make it all the way through. And they have to be. They have to be looked at. So if you like, for example, if you don't have a complete bubble filled in or it looks like you have two bubbles filled in, or if you're writing a name for a write in and they have to look at, that's adjudication. So 100,000 adjudication ballots for adjudication is a lot.

[Charlie Kirk]

But is provisional or no, or is.

[Blake Masters]

He conflating that so you can adjudicate lots of. So a lot of provisionals have issues because they're kind of sloppy secondhand votes. A lot of overseas ones have adjudication issues because they're the Department of State.

[Cliff Maloney]

That the actual statement they put out says it does include provisionals remaining to be adjudicated, provisional military overseeing.

[Blake Masters]

But what I'm saying is, is that he's including that because that's just a different type of ballot adjudication. Adjudication issues happen to all ballots. The vast majority happen in just regular ballots across all the different places. But the point is, is like you get a lot of the adjudication issues with, with provisionals overseas because people are a little bit more sloppy with them or they're a little bit like you can scan in facts and Yokava votes. So they have, they have issues. They, almost all of them need to be adjudicated in some kind of way because someone will take a crappy picture of it when they scan it or a bad scan or bad facts, and you can't really read it. And so someone has to adjudicate it, which means they have to fill out a new ballot. That is the intent of what they want. And sometimes they pick up the phone and call the person and say, hey.

[Charlie Kirk]

I think we got some votes that.

[Blake Masters]

Maricopa county should be coming in right now.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, I think we got 15,000, 10,000. We got 25,000 votes is what we got.

[Blake Masters]

Let me see.

[Charlie Kirk]

We got about 27, 20, 27,000 votes. Ish.

[Blake Masters]

Nice. That should have been 75.

[Charlie Kirk]

It was not 75,000. It was 25,000 votes. Let me see what Mr. Archer has to say. He Said while we wait for the big dog. Coconino posted 5166.

[Blake Masters]

There you go.

[Charlie Kirk]

We also got. Oh, he says Maricop incoming 18 minutes ago.

[Blake Masters]

Pima just dropped.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, there's more Pima votes.

[Blake Masters]

It was a big. It was a big ugly. We were expecting this. So we haven't even framed all this yet for everybody, we were told. And expecting a big, ugly Pima drop tonight in conjunction with a Maricopa county drop. We were told this.

[Charlie Kirk]

She's down 55,000.

[Blake Masters]

Allegedly. They were supposed to do 250,000 Maricopa county votes. Now they changed their tune. And the campaign for sheriff here in Maricopa county got word that they're only releasing 72,000 now.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. So.

[Blake Masters]

And they were doing that in conjunction at the same time with Pima, which we were expecting to be very ugly. This was only about 15,000 votes. That broke 60. 30. 62. 33 for Gallego.

[Charlie Kirk]

Okay.

[Blake Masters]

But that was expected.

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[Blake Masters]

Maricopa just dropped 70,000 votes. 57% lake.

[Charlie Kirk]

That's very, very good.

[Tyler Bowyer]

Whoa.

[Cliff Maloney]

Let's go, let's go.

[Charlie Kirk]

That is above the margin.

[Blake Masters]

No wonder Steven deleted his Twitter.

[Jack Posobiec]

Way above the Marvin.

[Tyler Bowyer]

That is a pick up off that. Well she's.

[Charlie Kirk]

She's only down by 44,007.

[Tyler Bowyer]

That would be a gain of like 10,000 just off that guy.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, she's down 44,000 votes.

[Tyler Bowyer]

All right.

[Blake Masters]

You realize they're doing it in order too.

[Tyler Bowyer]

That's pretty good.

[Charlie Kirk]

That's crazy. Not back yet. But that's way above what she needed.

[Tyler Bowyer]

That is. That's amazing for Maricopa.

[Blake Masters]

No, I'm telling you right now that's the exit. No wonder why they were they were waiting to drop with Pima at the same time because they had to drop that ugly Pima one together with it.

[Tyler Bowyer]

Donald Trump is up 43,698 is the Gap.

[Blake Masters]

Holy crap.

[Tyler Bowyer]

Matt. We should have Matt on guys to talk about this. He's a fun guy.

[Blake Masters]

No, he's coming on as soon as we get close. I told him he's. I'm telling. He's coming on the show as soon as he's like we're with a check. We don't want to. I didn't want him to come on and then he'd be like depressing here. Yeah. Guys, sorry we did.

[Charlie Kirk]

We've done Matthew Martinez.

[Blake Masters]

Matthew Martinez is coming.

[Cliff Maloney]

Charlie, can you guys. Matthew non Arizona as the non Arizona.

[Jack Posobiec]

What.

[Blake Masters]

How.

[Cliff Maloney]

How is she comparing to 22? Like what if you guys looking at.

[Blake Masters]

What it's not comparable.

[Charlie Kirk]

She's doing better and it's thanks to.

[Blake Masters]

Trump largely it's not comparable. But here's the deal. So what happened with Kerry Lake last time was it was virtually the same issue that where we are at now. She got down. We got close about where we are now days it into counting but the problem that existed with her was that her late drops that happened. If you remember this Charlie, the late drops that happened right before the election skewed more Democrat than they did for Trump in 2020. The late drops. So what happened with Trump and he was. He was actually performing pretty well but it just didn't end up being enough and didn't get us across the finish line in the final counts. And they were slow rolled this whole thing because they. That's where this, this practice came into be because they were slow rolling everything because nobody knew what was going to happen and then the same thing happened. Basically they did the same order of operations in 2022. Carriages was way down, way more on that first drop. I think it was like 12 or 14% that first drop and it was just like this slow, awful.

[Charlie Kirk]

This, this changes all the math. Jake Blake, we need to redo all the math. All that math we did earlier. We did not think we'd get a 57% drop out of remaining.

[Blake Masters]

Well, I did say that if it did happen.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, it's crazy. Are we done with data for the night?

[Blake Masters]

So do we probably because they're not. Wait, Tyler, this means that.

[Tyler Bowyer]

Would this be the best?

[Charlie Kirk]

Andrew's listening actually.

[Blake Masters]

Usually this is indicative of future drugs.

[Charlie Kirk]

So what it happens usually is it get whatever trend is going, it gets better. The question is how much better does it get? So.

[Blake Masters]

So Carrie Lake, if Carrie Lake continues this trend of 65% + statewide, how.

[Charlie Kirk]

Many votes are remaining?

[Blake Masters]

55 + win by a lot.

[Charlie Kirk]

There's 750,000 votes remaining.

[Blake Masters]

There's approximately. There's more than that because we had. That was only a drop of about 100,000 altogether in the last hour. So there's probably about 850,000 left. I'm telling you Trump is going to win by 10.

[Charlie Kirk]

Carrie Lake's I'm going to make a call about this. I'll be right back.

[Blake Masters]

Yeah, we're good.

[Tyler Bowyer]

And then when we go live with everyone else, explain this.

[Jack Posobiec]

Tyler, go through this, this. You mentioned they're coming in in order. What is the, what is the order?

[Blake Masters]

You're looking at the order. So for everyone that's just joining this new to this process that Maricopa County's magically made up on their own over the course of the last three election cycles. Basically what they've done is they've, they're supposed to count all of the early mail in ballots prior to Tuesday, the election day. However, Stephen Richard came out and said oops, didn't hire enough people. I couldn't get to that. So they only made it to the previous Tuesday in early ballots. That means there was a full week basically Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday and Monday that had not been counted prior to Tuesday going in just because Andrew's.

[Tyler Bowyer]

Saying he missed it. So maybe others did. We're just going to repeat the numbers. We had 70,429 votes dropped in. Maricopa Lake got 57% of them for a net of about 11 and a half thousand votes. So in one drop we gained 11 and a half thousand out of a 54, 55,000 vote gap.

[Blake Masters]

That's correct.

[Tyler Bowyer]

So we just wiped out about a fifth of the gap that we needed. In one drop.

[Blake Masters]

In one drop. And that was only 70,000 votes.

[Tyler Bowyer]

Of 70,000 votes.

[Blake Masters]

And Maricopa county still has a little bit, probably pretty close to 400,000 votes left.

[Tyler Bowyer]

So about 400,000 left in Maricopa.

[Blake Masters]

More than 4,000.

[Tyler Bowyer]

If drops in Maricopa match that, you basically wipe it out right there and then the rurals would give you some cushion.

[Blake Masters]

Bread and butter.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah.

[Blake Masters]

Yeah. So if she, if she continues on this pathway, she's not going to win by a little bit. She'll win by a lot. So that's, that's a good sign for everybody. But yeah, anyways, going back to what I was explaining. So they go through that process. So when the election day comes, they count all the votes. Step, step one is this, is that they count, they count all the election night votes first and then they start in order of the votes that were cast on the previous day. So the first batch that they started counting was Wednesday of last week, then Thursday and now we're in Friday territory. And that means that what they probably have a little bit left here is Saturday, Sunday, Monday, somewhere in there I'll get some word from some people that will tell us on the inside if we're around there. And then they count the drop offs on election day. Now election day drop offs typically look a lot like the actual votes that are cast on election day. So they're very good for Republicans typically. And in this case Kerry Lake won election day 60% to 40%. So. Or a little bit.

[Jack Posobiec]

Tyler, do you know how many, do you know how many there are in terms of election day drop offs versus early vote or do we not have those numbers?

[Blake Masters]

I just sent to, I just sent the total. So we do, we are, we are tracking the estimated remaining ballots per county. So I'm sorry, I misspoke earlier with everybody after this drop, there's about half a million still left in Maricopa County. So we're still at like 510,000 somewhere in that ballpark. The remainder is about the same number for the rest of the rest of the state. So we're right now we're sitting at still about a million ballots left. A little bit less than a million. There's a little bit less than Maricopa, what Maricopa county has in the rest of the state.

[Jack Posobiec]

And she's got it and she's still got to make up what 44,000.

[Blake Masters]

So here's here's, here's the good news. Some of the more recent Pima drops. I'll just take a look at it. We've had some. We've had some ugly ones, but they're not ugly enough for Gallegos. But we've had some really good on track outside Outer Drops and Maricopa county is really what seals the fate of Cary Lake. The good news that.

[Jack Posobiec]

Hey, we have breaking real quick. Hey, Cliff. Cliff, you seeing this? Is Cliff still there?

[Cliff Maloney]

Yes, hold on. Yeah, I'm here.

[Jack Posobiec]

Pennsylvania 10, baby.

[Blake Masters]

Pennsylvania.

[Jack Posobiec]

Oh, is it called?

[Blake Masters]

Pennsylvania 10 is called.

[Jack Posobiec]

It's our boy. It's our boy. NBC News projects Republican Scott Perry wins reelection to the house in Pennsylvania's 10th congressional. That's great.

[Tyler Bowyer]

211.

[Blake Masters]

There you go.

[Jack Posobiec]

There you go. Freedom. Freedom Caucus. This was Cliff. I mean, talk about. Talk about what? Talk about this race. Talk about what?

[Blake Masters]

Wait, can I, can I first. Wait, Cliff, before you get into.

[Jack Posobiec]

Charlie's coming back. Tell, tell.

[Blake Masters]

At Maloney, Abalone had two calls. He had one call that this would go, this would go, and then Joe Kent would go. So he's one for two on his prediction.

[Jack Posobiec]

Charlie, we called Scott Perry.

[Blake Masters]

He called Scott Perry and he called. He called Joe Kent race yesterday.

[Charlie Kirk]

Thanks so much for listening, everybody. Email us. As always, freedomarlykirk.com thanks so much for listening and God bless.

[Tyler Bowyer]

For more on many of these stories and news you can Trust, go to charliekirk.com.