The Charlie Kirk Show — "Ukraine: Peace At Last? + Mamdani in the White House"
Date: November 24, 2025
Host: Charlie Kirk
Notable Guests/Contributors: Jack Posobiec, Blake Neff, Scott Jennings
Episode Overview
This episode dives into two major topics dominating recent headlines: the rumored path to peace in Ukraine with competing US and EU-brokered plans, and the political theater surrounding Zoran Mamdani’s visit to the White House, focusing on claims about race-based property taxes. The conversation maintains the show’s typical unapologetically conservative and combative tone, dissecting big news on the Ukraine war, American foreign policy, and contentious shifts in domestic politics—with fiery debate, pointed commentary, and a few viral moments.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Mamdani in the White House & Race-Based Tax Controversy (01:12–05:16)
- Recap: Jack Posobiec recounts his visit to the White House during the so-called "Zoron Trump Accords," calling out Zoran Mamdani over alleged race-based NYC property taxes.
- Clips Played of Jack holding a city official to account for proposals allegedly targeting "whiter neighborhoods" for higher taxation.
Quote:
"Here's this theater kid who's up there, acting as if he didn't do all the Bollywood stuff on his acceptance speech and demagogue white people...now he's trying to ratchet it back...no, you said all these things. You just don’t get to walk away."
— Jack Posobiec (03:19)
- Interpretation: The panel views Trump’s civil engagement with Mamdani as a tactical "olive branch," contrasting this with media speculation of capitulation.
- Blake Neff: Points out Trump's congeniality in person, countering the expectation of a confrontational meeting.
2. Competing Ukraine Peace Plans — US vs. EU (05:16–17:56; Major segment throughout episode)
Situation Update (05:57–07:10)
- Blake Neff: Describes a leaked 28-point US-led plan, likely made public by Russia, which broadly aligns new borders with the current frontlines and establishes a demilitarized zone in Donetsk.
- The US plan would formally recognize Russian-annexed territory, versus the "frozen conflict" stance some in the West have advocated.
Quote:
"What has kept this, a tumor that has flared up over and over again, is that it's not resolved. ...the refusal to acknowledge the ceding of Crimea...that's likely what led to this war."
— Blake Neff (07:43)
Plan Details (07:10–09:23)
- US plan: Recognizes Russian gains, restricts Ukrainian military to 600,000 troops, would not allow Ukraine into NATO but invites EU membership (08:34–08:44).
- EU plan: Fewer concessions to Russia, no restrictions on Ukrainian troop numbers (08:34).
- Big Carrot: Trump’s plan offers Russia potential re-admission to the G8, incentivizing long-term rule-following (09:23–09:41).
Quote:
"That's a big carrot that is dangling out there for Russia if it plays by these rules."
— Charlie Kirk (09:45)
- Panel Analysis: All agree the US/Trump plan is more "realistic" and pragmatic given enduring Russian strengths in attrition warfare.
International Reaction and Negotiation Atmosphere (12:14–15:07)
- Clips played: Andriy Yermak, Ukraine’s head negotiator, sounds optimistic post-Geneva talks.
- Posobiec: Notes that finally, both Russia and Ukraine seem open to a deal—something not achievable in previous attempts.
Quote:
"If you want the killing to stop, you’re going to have to get to a point where both countries decide to stop."
— Scott Jennings (27:06)
- Debate over whether formally acknowledging Russia’s territorial gains is necessary for lasting peace, or if it "rewards bad behavior." Panel sides with recognition as a path to permanent resolution.
Security Guarantees & Geopolitical Implications (15:07–17:47)
- Discussion of possible Ukraine security guarantees and reintegration of Russia into the global economy.
- Concerns raised over escalation if the West deploys its own troops.
Quote:
"Are you going to step up to pay for it forever? That should be the question to Europe if they want it to go forever."
— Blake Neff (13:34)
3. "A Revolution of Common Sense" — Scott Jennings Interview (19:10–23:09)
- Scott Jennings introduces his new book, co-written with Donald Trump, arguing Trump’s role as a defender of Western civilization.
- Describes an existential battle between the West’s foundational values and "dark ideologies."
- Charlie Kirk doubles down on the idea that the US and its cultural underpinnings are fighting for survival.
Quote:
"We’re not just battling about the day-to-day politics anymore...it’s that versus really dark ideologies, people who have views that are really the enemies of human liberty. That’s the battle that’s going on right now."
— Scott Jennings (21:31)
4. US Political Landscape — EU vs. US on Ukraine, Fracturing on the Right, and "AOC of Tennessee" (23:09–37:50)
Ukraine Policy: Realism vs. Moral Absolutism (23:09–26:51)
- Jennings argues for a negotiated settlement, not an endless war, and cautions against maximalist, moralist stances that ignore battlefield reality.
- Emphasizes importance of security guarantees for Ukraine and the need for peace that balances US economic/military interests.
"AOC of Tennessee": Afton Ben and Culture-Driven Democratic Candidates (28:07–33:23)
- Panel reacts to Afton Ben’s viral remarks expressing "hate" for Nashville and its culture; Ben is nicknamed "the AOC of Tennessee."
- Analysis of Democratic Party’s shift toward candidates who are openly contemptuous of their own constituencies.
Quote:
"Welcome to the modern left...vapid liberals who really hate the people they live around...But this is where the energy in the Democratic Party is right now."
— Scott Jennings (29:34)
- Urging Tennessee Republicans to mobilize and prevent an upset in a typically safe district (Blake Neff: 33:23).
GOP Fractures, Marjorie Taylor Greene Resignation, and Trump’s Influence (33:35–35:53)
- Discussion of recent GOP infighting and resignations; Jennings stresses “politics is a team sport” and the importance of unity under Trump’s leadership.
- Emphasis on the need to stay focused on common opposition, not internal disputes.
Quote:
"We have a united opposition...When we fracture, it makes their job a lot easier, frankly...internal fractures make it harder to win those larger battles."
— Scott Jennings (35:53)
5. Media Bias and the Hunter Biden Laptop (36:16–37:50)
- Scott Jennings recounts his appearance on Kara Swisher’s podcast, sparring over whether the Hunter Biden laptop story’s suppression was "just politics" or a dangerous abuse of power.
- Show criticizes mainstream media’s role in "censoring information" to affect election outcomes, framing this as evidence of the left going beyond “politics as usual.”
Quote:
"It was a big misinformation op for the party that's constantly worried about misinformation. That's all it was...But to the left, anything goes."
— Scott Jennings (37:50)
Notable Quotes & Moments with Timestamps
“Somebody had to do something. Somebody did something. Some people did something.”
— Jack Posobiec, in a mocking reference to activism and the Mamdani exchange (03:19)
“If you’re going to oppose a plan that is pro-Russian, I feel you need a plan for, okay, is Ukraine going to win the war? Are we going to go until every Ukrainian is dead so you can feel really morally righteous over their pile of corpses?”
— Blake Neff (13:34)
“We’re not just battling about the day to day politics anymore. The future of our country, the future of the west...it’s that versus really dark ideologies.”
— Scott Jennings (21:31)
“If you want the killing to stop, you’re going to have to get to a point where both countries decide to stop. And that’s the point of this agreement.”
— Scott Jennings (27:06)
“Welcome to the modern left. I mean, this is effectively a great hood ornament for what the Democratic Party has become...that’s who they're nominating.”
— Scott Jennings (29:34)
“We have a leader. His name is Donald Trump. And I think we ought to respect that...internal fractures make it harder to win those larger battles.”
— Scott Jennings (35:53)
Timestamps for Key Segments
- 01:12 — Introduction; panel discussion launches
- 02:10 — Jack Posobiec presses Mamdani on property taxes
- 05:57 — Ukraine: 28-point US peace plan explained
- 12:38 — Clip: Yermak on negotiation progress
- 19:10 — Scott Jennings interview: "A Revolution of Common Sense"
- 23:38 — Jennings on Ukraine deal realism
- 28:50 — "AOC of Tennessee" — discussing Afton Ben’s candidacy
- 33:41 — GOP fractures, Trump, and Marjorie Taylor Greene’s resignation
- 36:16 — Media, Hunter Biden laptop, and "politics as usual"
Tone and Style
- Conversational, combative, and unapologetically conservative
- Heavy skepticism toward Democratic policy and media accountability
- Emphasis on culture war themes, unity on the right, and criticism of "neocon/neoliberal" foreign policy views
- Sarcastic humor and occasional references to memes or viral moments
Summary Takeaway
This episode crystallizes conservative anxiety about endless conflict—in Ukraine or American culture—and pleads for clarity and pragmatism, as the world’s balance (and the West’s future) hang in the balance. Panelists favor a realistic, if hard, peace in Ukraine, are wary of left-wing ascendance in unlikely places, and contend the future of American (and Western) values hinges on electoral unity and vigilance against media manipulation.