Unpacking The Most Lawless US Election in History with Mike Cernovich

Summary

The Charlie Kirk Show: Unpacking The Most Lawless US Election in History

Guest: Mike Cernovich
Date: November 30, 2020

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Overview

This episode of The Charlie Kirk Show, featuring guests Mike Cernovich, Tyler Bowyer, and Austin Smith, explores claims of irregularities and alleged fraud during the 2020 U.S. Presidential Election. The team analyzes Sidney Powell's Georgia lawsuit, the alleged manipulation of voting systems (especially Dominion and Smartmatic), and discusses the impact of these controversies on Republican strategies. The episode also examines the party's internal dynamics, youth outreach, and urges grassroots activism as a “path forward.”

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Sidney Powell Lawsuit & Dominion Voting Systems

(04:10–09:30)

• Sidney Powell’s 104-page lawsuit in Georgia: Kirk describes it as potentially “landscape altering,” summarizing major claims around foreign ties to Smartmatic and Dominion, and historical technical “glitches” in the Philippines (06:00).
• Foreign Concerns:
  • “Why do we have to use voting software that is developed by Serbians and Venezuelans, exported worldwide?” — Charlie Kirk (05:46)
• Legal Updates: A judge initially ordered Dominion machines preserved, then reversed the order. Speculation abounds about judicial impartiality.
• Fulton County Leak Incident: Reference to the State Farm Arena water leak, with suspicions this event was used to purge or tamper with votes late at night (09:00).
  • “Election workers falsely claimed a water leak required the facility to close…several election workers remained unsupervised…until after 1:00 a.m.” — Austin Smith quoting lawsuit (08:58)

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2. Historical Context: Election Fraud Comparisons

(09:30–13:00)

• Kirk recounts the 1948 Texas Senate race, where ballot box stuffing allegedly helped LBJ win, drawing parallels to current events.
  • “Every dead person in the cemetery has a right to vote in this Democrat primary.” — Charlie Kirk retelling LBJ story (09:23)
• Points out a generalized distrust in election integrity across history.

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3. Mike Cernovich’s Analysis: Statistical Anomalies & GOP Strategy

Cernovich joins: (14:20–45:00)

Election Night Oddities

• Questions plausibility of Biden-only ballot surges when Republicans made gains elsewhere:
  • “Every toss-up goes Republican. So we're supposed to just believe…they voted Republican down-ballot for everyone and then they voted Joe Biden at the top?” — Mike Cernovich (15:38)
• References the “pipe burst” in Georgia and pauses in counting in PA, WI, and MI, expressing skepticism at these events’ explanations (17:30).

Gaslighting and Media Narrative

• “We're the crazy people because we're just saying, ‘Hey, why don't you explain that?’” — Mike Cernovich (19:46)
• Both Kirk and Cernovich claim Democrats were open about post-Election Night ballot counting strategies, implying foreknowledge of outcome swings.

Path Forward for Republicans

• State legislatures’ role: Cernovich advises following Democrats’ 2016 “Hamilton Electors” argument—that legislatures can choose electors regardless of the popular vote (20:23; 36:32).
• Warns that voter demoralization could cost the GOP Senate runoffs in Georgia; encourages “fight hard, win or lose” as the only way to energize the base (23:14).
  • “If they lose and give it their all, people will rally around them... But just saying ‘It'll be bad if you don't’ isn't enough.” — Cernovich (24:58)

Tech Censorship

• Criticizes Big Tech’s role in “censoring” conservative and pro-Trump content, with specific reference to the Hunter Biden story (26:47).
  • “You just know that every day you log on, that might be your last time.” — Cernovich (26:47)
• Argues GOP control of the Senate is the last firewall against legislative consequences of tech/big media alignment with Democrats.

GOP, MAGA & the “New Model”

• Asserts that the “MAGA” movement has overtaken the GOP, pushing away the “old model” of Republicans (30:43).
• Emphasizes economic populism, “nation-building but not regime change,” and “fighting with the Democrats by their own rules.”
• “The Republican Party is dead, like the Whigs were dead. A new party has now been born.” — Charlie Kirk (30:55)

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4. “Marching Orders” for Grassroots Activists

(41:49–44:59)

• Cernovich calls for:

  • Lawful, polite pressure: Encourage civil yet firm engagement with officials (“Earn my vote!”).
  • Eyes open for provocateurs: Warns of staged incidents at rallies meant to make conservatives look bad.
  • Persistent activism: Physical presence, phone calls, peaceful rallies, and supporting frontline workers.

• Notable Quote:

  • “Just a little kind gesture can be all the difference between victory and defeat.” — Mike Cernovich (44:59)

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5. Deep Dive: Election Procedures & Voting Centers

(47:43–65:21)

• Centralization Risks: Tyler Bowyer and Austin Smith raise alarms about consolidated “vote centers,” removing local precinct controls and potentially enabling ballot injection (48:34).
• Precinct Voting Importance: Argue that smaller, local oversight is a natural “check and balance.”
• Staff and Software Concerns: Anecdotes of out-of-state poll workers and mismatched voting machines; allegations of foreign aircraft possibly transporting ballots (53:10–54:18).
  • “If you take away precinct voting…you would never know…if someone did inject a bunch of ballots.” — Tyler Bowyer (54:07)
• Dominion and Vendor Consolidation: All major swing states allegedly using similar systems, raising suspicions of coordinated vulnerabilities (55:24).
• Transparency and Record Retention: Discuss legal requirements for preserving records and the problem of dual employment by county workers and Dominion (57:55).

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6. Media Skepticism & Youth Vote

(63:18–73:48)

• Media Trust: The group contends that distrust in mainstream media drives more young people to alternative sources (63:18).
• Trump’s Improved Youth Performance in GA: Contrasts real youth organizing with media narratives blaming Turning Point for Trump’s performance (66:46–70:49).
  • “We created a grassroots movement like the country has never seen.” — Charlie Kirk (70:20)
• Alleged Fraud with Youth Voting: Argues that youth ballot and registration practices were ripe for fraud (72:46–73:48).

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7. Republican Party Reformation & Grassroots Mobilization

(81:28–87:38)

• Tyler Bowyer and others advocate for listeners to become precinct committeemen, take control at the local level, and infiltrate school boards.
  • “Every person should be a precinct committeeman.” — Charlie Kirk (82:30)
• “Stop outsourcing your patriotism to other people.” — Charlie Kirk (86:59)

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• “Why do we have to use voting software…developed by Serbians and Venezuelans?”
  — Charlie Kirk (05:46)
• “Every dead person in the cemetery has a right to vote in this Democrat primary.”
  — Charlie Kirk, paraphrasing LBJ (09:23)
• “You can’t say…Republicans just hated Trump so they voted down-ballot Republican but Biden at the top.”
  — Mike Cernovich (15:38)
• “We're the crazy people because…we say, ‘Hey, why don't you explain that?’”
  — Mike Cernovich (19:46)
• “Return on your shield or with it; you better try to make that happen.”
  — Mike Cernovich, on GOP fighting for audits (21:38)
• “You just know every day you log on [social media], that might be your last time.”
  — Mike Cernovich (26:47)
• “The Republican Party is dead, like the Whigs…A new party has now been born.”
  — Charlie Kirk (30:55)
• “Just a little kind gesture can be all the difference between victory and defeat.”
  — Mike Cernovich (44:59)
• “If you take away precinct voting…you would never know…if someone did inject a bunch of ballots.”
  — Tyler Bowyer (54:07)
• “We created a grassroots movement like the country has never seen.”
  — Charlie Kirk (70:20)
• “Stop outsourcing your patriotism to other people.”
  — Charlie Kirk (86:59)

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Key Timestamps

• 04:10 - Breakdown of Sidney Powell’s Georgia lawsuit
• 08:58 - Specifics on Fulton County, GA, “water leak” incident
• 09:23 - LBJ 1948 voter fraud anecdote
• 14:20 - Mike Cernovich joins the podcast
• 20:23 - Cernovich outlines “path forward” for GOP via state legislatures
• 26:47 - Cernovich on tech censorship and its effect
• 30:43 - Philosophical differences and “death” of the old GOP
• 41:49 - Cernovich gives “marching orders” to activists
• 47:43 - Examination of consolidated voting centers and procedural vulnerabilities
• 54:07 - Potential for ballot injection due to loss of precinct oversight
• 63:18 - Media trust issues among young people
• 66:46 - Kirk and team on youth voter mobilization
• 82:30 - Local party engagement; become precinct committeemen
• 86:59 - Philosophy of “stop outsourcing your patriotism”

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Tone

• Highly partisan, urgent, and combative.
• Consistent encouragement of activism, skepticism toward institutions, and framing of current events as existential for conservative politics.

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Actionable Takeaways

1. Support grassroots organization: Listeners are encouraged to engage as precinct committeemen, run for school board, and stay involved at a local level (82:30–87:38).
2. Exercise pressure legally and peacefully: “Keep the pressure on,” but with civility — phone calls, showing up to events, monitoring elected officials (41:49–44:59).
3. Demand transparency and audits: Repeated calls for full audits of youth and swing state votes; skepticism towards centralized, digital voting procedures.

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Bottom Line

The episode frames the 2020 election as uniquely lawless and urges continued resistance and investigation from Republicans and grassroots activists. The hosts and guests emphasize historical context, media distrust, and procedural vulnerabilities as justifications for their skepticism, while also pivoting to a broader message about energizing and reshaping the Republican Party through local activism and new leadership attitudes.

Transcript

[A]

Hey everybody. Today on the Charlie Kirk show, an exclusive live stream with Tyler Bowyer, Austin Smith, our experts here in Arizona, also joined by Mike Cernovich. And we dive deep into a variety of different topics and issues. We are working 14, 16, 18 hour days thanks to your [e-mail] support if you're driving in the car right now or you're working out, you're listening to our podcast. I just want to say thank you. Thank you for listening, for downloading, for, for sharing and [e-mail] support if you want to get involved with TurningPoint USA, the nation's largest, most important and most critical organization fighting America's culture war with a sense of urgency, go to tpusa.com, tpusa.com as always, you can email us your questions freedomarliekirk.com Freedom charliekirk.com Very interesting fact based conversation on Sidney Powell's lawsuit, voter fraud and more. Buckle up everybody. Here we go. Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

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Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus. I want you to know we are

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lucky to have Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.

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I want to thank Charlie.

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He's an incredible guy.

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His spirit, his love of this country. He's done an amazing job building one

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of the most powerful youth organizations ever

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By the way, a lot of people were saying Sidney's not going to file anything. Sydney is not going to actually be able to come up with any form of complaint. 104 pages, everybody. Now the criticism that certain people are throwing at Sidney Powell in this lawsuit is that it kind of lacks some attachments and evidence. Well, it's not up to her in this moment to provide all of the evidence available to it. Now, mind you, a lot of what she's talking about here is digital ballot stuffing. It's exactly what we've been talking about here on this program, on this live stream and on this podcast is this idea of digital ballot stuffing is the manipulation of Dominion voting systems and also the manipulation of potentially hammer and scorecard and other things surrounding it. And so the first question that we have when you read this incredibly important lawsuit that Sidney Powell filed in Georgia, the first question is, will a judge throw it out? And so you see here on page 45, we've read this entire thing. It says this Smartmatics incorporators and inventors have backgrounds evidencing their foreign connections, including Venezuela and Serbia. Specifically its identified inventors. And it goes here, the inventors of the people that are foreign here. And it says the presence of smartmatic in the United States owned by foreign nationals. We're reading from Sidney Powell's lawsuit here. And Dominion, a Canadian company with its offices such as the Office of General Counsel in Germany, would have had to have been approved by CFIUS, which is a basically a 1988 program for all things that are foreign must be approved by a board commissioned by Congress and was amended by the Foreign Investment and National security act of 2007. No such record is actually available there. Sidney Powell then goes on to say later in the lawsuit, and Austin, you've also been filing through this as well and we're gonna dive into this throughout. Is that quote, Dominion got into trouble with several subsidiaries it used over alleged cases of fraud. One subsidiary is smartmatic, a company that, quote, has played a significant role in the United States market over the last decade now. And it says here, litigation over Smartmatic's quote, glitches alleges they impacted the 2010 and 2013 midterm elections in the Philippines, raising questions of cheating and fraud. Now, let me just say, why is it in a country that we have a 25-20 trillion dollars GDP, we have a $4 trillion federal government budget every single year. We, we have 350 million people, we have the wealthiest companies, we have the most amazing entrepreneurs that we have to go use voting software that is developed by Serbians and Venezuelans. I mean, that happens to be exported to the Philippines and all across the planet. It says here it goes earlier, it says, and we talked about this before Congresswoman Maloney, again, we are reading from Sidney Powell's lawsuit. Interestingly, Sidney Powell's lawsuit reads a lot like a Charlie Kirk show war room broadcast this. There's a lot in here that we've been covering for weeks. We have been ahead of the curve, thanks to you guys. This is Congresswoman Maloney wrote that quote, it is undisputed that smartmatic is foreign owned and it has acquired Sequoia. Smartmatica now acknowledged that Antonio Mujiska, or Mujica Mujica, a Venezuela businessman, has controlling interest in smartmatica. But the company has not yet revealed who the other Smartmatic owners are. And so what you have here, we're gonna build out this lawsuit tonight that Sidney Powell has where she talks about smartmatic, she talks about Dominion voting systems, she talks about the irregularities. This is a potentially really landscape altering lawsuit. But all of this is really dependent on whether or not we can get Brian Kemp. And we're gonna be in Georgia this week, right, Austin? We are.

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I'm leaving for Georgia tomorrow.

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You're leaving tomorrow?

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Tomorrow.

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I'm leaving very soon for Georgia because we have to go win those runoffs and we also got to make sure we get action on these lawsuits, right?

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That's right.

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So. But we have to get Brian Kemp and Raffensperger to not wipe the memory. I'm paraphrasing here, actually, let me actually get the exact words here to not to freeze all Dominion voting machines in Georgia. So there is good news followed by really troubling news. First, Judge Timothy C. Batten Sr. Issued an order on Sunday today to freeze all Dominion voting Machines in the state of Georgia. This is from attorney Lin Wood, who I wouldn't mess with in a court of law. Just ask Nicholas Sandman, who is wearing a hat just like me, and he's very, very wealthy. Defendants are ordered to maintain the status quo and are temporarily enjoined from wiping or resetting any voting machines in the state of Georgia until further ordered by the court. But then all of a sudden, out of nowhere, the judge reversed his claim. So the judge said, freeze it. And now you don't have to freeze it. Within moments notice. Speculation would be and speculation would show us and tell us that someone got all of a sudden in this judge's ear. This idea that judges cannot be corrupted in this country, they're somehow incorruptible is a complete falsehood. The power system in our country, the ruling class, they're just a couple phone calls away from getting exactly what they want. So now this is the pressure that we must put on Governor Kemp and the Secretary of State. Why would you be wiping these machines? And by the way, new evidence has come out. Do you guys. Hey, Austin. Do you remember when all of a sudden we were talking about that there was some form of a leak in Georgia? Do you know what ended up being a. I think it was a urinal that was overstuffed. That's why they stopped counting votes for that period of time. Maybe to reset machines, maybe to dive deep into some of the shenanigans there. And so you guys remember, you might remember that story where all of a sudden that there were people that Georgia said, we can't count votes in this particular precinct in one of these voting county tabulation areas. I think it's actually referenced in the lawsuit, isn't it?

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Yeah, it says 11. Specifically, video from the State Farm arena in Fulton county shows that on November 3, after the polls closed, election workers falsely claimed in a water leak required the facility to close. All poll workers and challengers were evacuated from several hours at about 10pm however, several election workers remain unsupervised and unchallenged, working at the computers for the voting tabulations means until after 1:00am and that's in the lawsuit? Yes, that's 100% in the lawsuit right here at point 11.

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And so we have. We know it was fraudulent. So I'd like to know the work order. I would like to know who is actually behind that. I would like to know all the driving forces that were possibly involved in that. Exactly what happened in Georgia. Who called this. This kind of leakage, who called this crisis. And, you know, in a lot of different ways, to kind of use a play on word, the Democrat narrative is actually starting to leak in more ways than one. And it was actually a real leak. I want to talk first and foremost about 1948 election in Texas. 1948 election in Texas. Washington. Lyndon Baines Johnson stole that election from a guy. I think his name was a really weird name. It was like Coke Stevenson or something. Let me try to see this guy's name here. Something like this. I think it's Coke Stevenson. Yeah, it was Coke Stevenson. He was very popular. And the primary was basically the general election because the entire state was Democrat. And so Koch Stevenson was a lot more popular. Koch Stevenson was, was really well known. But LBJ went up against Coke Stevenson in a very surprise way. And out of nowhere he was down. They stopped counting ballots and this thing called ballot box 13 was found. A precinct was discovered. Now, incredibly, the New York Times in 1990 by Martin Tolchin. I wonder if Martin Tolchin is still alive. That'd be so interesting almost 30 years later to see. The New York Times said right here how Johnson won an election he'd lost. Now here's the characteristics of how, you know, it was stolen. They stopped counting the votes. They didn't tell you how many ballots are remaining. And out of nowhere, there was a last minute dump that favored one candidate. Lyndon Baines Johnson won this election, won it even though he lost it against Coke Stevenson through just thug politics. And the story goes as this, this was in a county. It was a really weird Jim Wells county. It's the story goes as this, LBJ was walking the cemetery at night with all of his kind of political organizers as they were. All of a sudden the voting was, the counting was suspended. And they were of course going tombstone by tombstone trying to find names and they could correlate ballots to them because obviously they wouldn't be able to argue that things were being happening in their name. And they couldn't read one tombstone. And one of their workers moved on to the next one. And LBJ grabbed his young staffer by the neck collar and he said, let me be very clear. Every dead person in the cemetery has a right to vote in this Democrat primary. It's a true story. And yet he ended up being. Of course, we all know how the story ended there. LBJ ended up becoming president. You wanna know something else that's nuts? Life magazine, which used to be the kind of premier magazine, had a front page story exposing LBJ's corruption and do you know what week it was supposed to publish? The very same week that John Fitzgerald Kennedy Jr got shot. Not Jr JFK got shot in the streets of Dallas happened to be LBJ's hometown home area. Besides that, there's no such thing as voter fraud or corruption. And by the way, stop looking deeper into stories. Sit down and shut up. Just take it as it is. Have the best Thanksgiving and Christmas ever with Good Ranchers Free hickory honey holiday ham. Every new subscription gets a Berkshire hickory honey smoked ham for free. The Berkshire hams are 100% no antibiotics ever, 100% hormone free and 100% born and raised in America. Hands down, the best ham you'll ever eat. Berkshire pork, which is a heritage breed, is known as the world's best pork. And. And the best part is 100% free with every new subscription. Sign up today and get yours before you run out. And as always, good ranchers is 100% American beef and chicken. And now pork steaks are always USDA choice and higher. Chicken is 100% all natural, no hormones added, ever. Good Ranchers began with the standard of bringing top quality, 100% American born, raised and harvested meat to families across America. This vision was instilled into them from their grandparents that owned community grocery stores and believed in trust, charity and family values. GoodRanchers.com partners only with American ranchers from across the US to bring the highest quality meat straight to your door. So go to goodranchers.com that's goodranchers.com it's the place to go. It's goodranchersthenest.com for the price of a family going out to dinner, you go to goodranchers.com, use the promo code Charlie to save $20 off your purchase. Goodranchers.com promo code Charlie. We're gonna be joined momentarily by Mike Cernovich. Then afterwards, Austin. I want to get more into this Georgia lawsuit and then I want to talk about this youth vote. This whole thing that's going on here, it's very important. So just. Can I. You know, I'm ready. Get your stuff together here. And so we are now joined by the legendary Mike Cernovich. Mike, can you hear me?

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I can. How about you? You hear me okay?

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Yes. Great. Welcome to the livestream. We are live.

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My pleasure. Welcome. You're in Arizona, right?

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Yes, that's right.

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Incredible. The fight is on.

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We are on the front lines. Mike, the floor is yours. Give us an update of where we are, how you see things going. But before even that, I Just want to introduce you to our audience. Mike is a living legend in the movement. You saw Trump, really before Trump, you've been exposing stories. You have a great film called Hoaxed, which I still think is doing very well despite a lot of suppression. Mike, thank you for joining us. It's all you.

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Yeah, I mean right now is a pivotal time in our country's history because there's never been an election where even my Democrat friends don't believe the results. My Democrat friends are all like, eh, you know, what are you gonna do about it? The vibe is nobody believes this, nobody believes the results, but we're not even allowed to talk about it. We have to word things differently. We not allowed to just say that something shady really happened. So for example, there were 27 toss up seats for the House of Representatives, right? Could go GOP, could go Democrat. If Mike Garcia takes CA 25, 27. And oh, for the GOP, there were gains in the state legislators, GOP gains in the state legislators. Republicans picked up between 10 to 15 House seats in total. So every toss up goes Republican. 10 to 15 GOP seats get picked up. None of the Senate bloodbath that happened. Remember, Mitch McConnell's gonna lose, Lindsey's gonna lose. It's gonna be a blue wave in the Senate. The Senate's gonna pick up six seats. Nancy Pelosi is gonna have a super majority. That didn't happen. So we're supposed to just believe that Republicans and by the way, Trump had a 95% approval rating of the Republicans. So you can't say, well, Republicans just really hated Trump. So they voted Republican down, ballot for everyone and then they voted Joe Biden at the top of the ticket. Just doesn't make any sense, brother. And I'm open to the possibility that it wasn't cheated. I'm open to the possibility, but nobody will answer what I just said. Nobody will say. And I read all these guys, the Derek, David Wasserman, Nate Cohn, yes, I read them all. So I'm like, guys, just explain this to me, explain how this happened to me and I'll go away. But they can't and they don't.

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So I think you brought up a great point there, Mike, that I wanna zero in on. You ever see the movie Inside Man? I don't know if you ever seen that movie. I feel like this is the inside man election. Everyone's wearing masks, but they're so confident and they're almost bragging about how they stole this. Right? And that's the understated kind of brilliance of that movie is that they pulled off this perfect crime. They were bragging about how they were pulling off the crime to the entire world and to the police commissioners, and they said, what are you going to do to stop it? It's almost as if that's what the Democrats are doing right now. It's no longer an argument of whether or not this was stolen. It's like, are you guys gonna be able to prove it or not? And if you can't, we're gonna get back in power, and we're gonna punish all of you.

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Yeah, they told us before the election what they were gonna do. They said, oh, the night of the election, probably gonna look like Trump won, but guess what? The mail in ballots have to be counted, and then it's gonna look like he didn't lose. And then we're gonna have to wait weeks and weeks for the election. So, sure enough, I'm sitting around thinking, okay, let's see what we're gonna get here. Oh, wait, Ohio went for Trump early. You're like, wait a minute. If a Republican wins Ohio, he wins the election. No, no, no. A pipe burst in Georgia. Gotta stop. Gotta stop counting, right? Gotta stop. Where's the pipe burst? Gotta stop counting. And then we're there. We're like, watching in real time. It's mind blowing, actually. We're watching the election come in. Trump won Ohio. He won Florida. He wasn't supposed to win. Florida crushes Florida. And, you know, I know that, you know, I've been critical Rubio, but they delivered Florida, so we got to give credit where it's due. So Marco Rubio, all credit to him on this. You know, we got to. We got to play an honest game here. So Florida crushes, picks up Ohio, which he's supposed to lose, and then suddenly, up. Pipe burst in Georgia. Got to quit counting. Oh, Pennsylvania, who knows, Gaps? Everybody just go to bed and then wake up tomorrow and find out what happens. And so we're like, our minds blown. There's, of course, that video clip, clip of Chris Cuomo and the other CNN guy watching the results. I think of Wisconsin, and they're like, oh, it's looking one way. And then like, this. This vote dump comes in. They're like, oh, no, here's 100,000 or some, like, amount of votes for Joe Biden. They're like, oh, wait, what do we even do here? So we watched it. We're like, there. They tell us beforehand what they're gonna do. We watch it happen in real time. But now we're the crazy people, because we're just saying, hey, why don't you explain that? The Real Clear Politics polling average said that Democrats were up plus eight. Like, just all you have to do is go look at what they're saying a week before the election. So just tell me, how is it that the Republicans picked everything up? Tell me about the pipe verse, tell me about these other things, and then I'll say, you know what? Joe Biden is my president, and I'm not gonna be a resistor, and I'll just wish him well. But they won't even do that. They just. They're gaslighting us.

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They're gaslighting us, and they almost are almost enjoying the crime that they committed. It's almost as if they're. They're relishing in what they pulled off. And so can you just kind of give us now what you think the path forward is? The polls are showing that almost all Trump supporters and Republicans agree this thing was stolen. So now how should Republicans engage on this? We've been hosting rallies. We hosted one out in Arizona early when no one else was doing it. We've been doing this live stream. We've been keeping the drumbeat going. Other Republicans are running to the hills. We've been staying very strong on this. What do you think the path forward is for this, then? I want to dive deeper into some specifics.

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Sure. I think the path forward is to go back and look at what Chris Hayes said in 2016 when he had Michael Moore on his show, and they said, you know what? The delegates can change the electors if they want. Pennsylvania can change the electors if they want. So I think that the pathway forward for Republicans is that we should do what Chris Hayes and MSNBC said, what Michael Moore said, what the Hamilton elector said. Remember Robert De Niro and all these people did these videos. Oh, you have. You're the Electoral College. We have to change everything. So I'm only saying, hey, man, fair is fair. I remember 2016 well, and I remember that you said that Pennsylvania doesn't have to send a delegate to vote the way that the people may be voted. And that's what you said. And the same thing was happening in Georgia. So I expect Republicans to return on your shield or with it, you better. You better try to make that happen. And if you can't and you get crushed, you know what? No hard feelings. Nobody. You know, that line, of course, is from, you know, Spartan and 300 honor shield, or with it, like, you better get carried back defeated, or you Stand and fight. But what they're doing now is they're just running away. We don't know what we want to do here. And not only is that cowardly, but it creates a problem where how do you get the Republicans to keep control of the Senate? At the very least, what I would say is the very least, because, you know, you do the same thing. I talk to a lot of the establishment Republicans. I talk to the base, I talk to everybody in between. I'm like a conduit. And I've been telling my friends in the, like, GOP elite, I'm like, guys, I don't know what to tell you, man. If you don't fight hard on Georgia, you're just gonna have. A lot of Trump voters aren't even gonna show up. And they're like, but that would be defeatism. That would be catastrophic. And I'm like, I know, I understand this. Charlie Kirk understands this. But you have a demoralized. You have millions of voters who are demoralized, and it's up to them to say, hey, guys, we gave it our all, we got beat, but let's go ahead and keep these two seats Republican for the runoff election.

[A]

Yeah. And so I want to read an email I got from a base Trump supporter from Georgia. I'm going to just paraphrase it. Okay. Hi, Charlie. I will flat out tell you, I'm a Georgia resident. Perdue and Loeffler will not be elected as Georgia senators. We conservatives had had enough of weak kneed Republicans. Myself and many others will be staying home. Once again, the establishment is telegraphing their steel. This was evident in the general election, too. And there was nothing that Trump or anyone else could do to stop the steal. They knew it was coming and still failed. Trump, in hindsight, will have had a losing administration and a winning administration because of the widespread theft. Blah, blah, blah. He says, best of luck to you. I will not be voting in the primary. Can you just reinforce that, Mike, that if we don't fight hard now, there's gonna be so many conservatives that don't show up in Georgia.

[B]

Oh, yeah, Democrats have a majority, period. If they don't fight hard. And it's okay to fight and lose this. You know, we all watched, a lot of us watched Roy Jones Jr. And Mike Tyson. Nobody cares who won that thing last night. They both came out, they fought. That's just the way it works with the Republican Party. They need to fight harder than Roy Jones Jr. Was fighting last night. And if they lose and they give it their all, hey, man, people will be enthused, people will rally around them. You'll get that momentum and then people show up and then the Senate will keep red. Because this is the problem. And I'm sure you feel the same way, which is, I want Republicans to keep the Senate. I really do.

[A]

I do, too.

[B]

But just saying, hey, we want them to. There's gonna be a radical Biden agenda. Da da da, da da da. All that might be true, but that's not gonna resonate with even 1% if you lose even 1%. The margins are so thin in Georgia. If 1% of voters don't come out, that's it. So you really can't just say, well, it's gonna be bad. They'll be able to get radical Supreme Court justices in, they're gonna be able to add D.C. as a state, and then that give them two more senators, it'll give him another member of Congress. They'll probably do all kinds of, you know, who knows, Massive, massive, really crazy stuff. It's true, it's true. But it's not enough to tell the base, well, it's true. These bad things are gonna happen. You have to say, look, these bad things are gonna happen. We tried to do everything that we possibly could to make this a free and fair election. And you know what? It doesn't always go your way, but we did everything we could and we're gonna keep the Senate and then rally the base in that way. They have to do it well.

[A]

And I think that the messaging we're playing with and we're gonna be. I'm gonna be in Georgia very soon. I'm leaving to go this week. Not because I wanna be in Georgia in December, trust me, I'm going out of loyalty to the country, quite honestly, cuz I think that it's necessary. But avenge the loss. Avenge the loss of Trump. It's that simple. You message the Georgia runoff as Loeffler and Perdue are your opportunity to get some revenge. And guess what, Georgia, no other state has an opportunity like you do right now. Because there's 300 million people that would love to go run and vote for not a Democrat. Now, from more philosophical standpoint, and Mike, you and I agree on this, no one goes out of their way to go vote for an establishment Republican in an offensive strategy. This is a defensive strategy for those of us that are conservatives, right, our entire strategy is we don't want D.C. and Puerto Rico to be added as states. We don't want the electoral College to be abolished. We don't want Medicare for All. We don't want the Green New Deal. We don't want amnesty. We don't want all these sorts of things. The only way now we can build a wall, basically, metaphorical wall, is just to keep Mitch McConnell as Senate majority Leader and hopefully he'll follow the instructions that we continue to give. And I think he actually does temper down to some of the pressure that he feels from people like us. I do. And I like him on Judges. I like him on Amy Coney Barrett. I like that. Pretty upset that we didn't get tech under control because we can. We're now living under the tyranny that you, you first and foremost talked about very early on. But this is more of a defensive move in the Senate in Georgia. Right. And so I actually want to segue to something different because we're getting a lot of emails on this. Can you talk about how tech, the big data companies, the influence they had in this election, and if we don't actually get serious about some action against them, we are going to live in a country that none of us recognize.

[B]

Yeah. The fracture is going to happen with the big tech. Anytime you were like a big influencer or a big account, you just know that every day you log on, that might be your last time. And that subtle pressure incentivizes you to, to be careful, you know, that they might just nuke you, man. You're gone for no, for no reason at all. And when you do that, I noticed this because I noticed what happened in 2016 versus 2020. If you organize big, get out the votes drive, you know, that just makes you a big target. Anything you would have done to help Trump wins elections makes you a big target. Hunter Biden stuff comes out that doesn't even cross. I was afraid to even touch the stuff because I know it came from the New York Post. And I know the New York Post, even though it publishes some kind of tabloid stuff, doesn't publish fake stuff. I knew it was real. But then I'm thinking, you know, do I even want to go near this? Because if I go near this and I'm gonna end up getting nuked. And I don't know if this is a thing to get nuked over. So you had this, all this great information that would. We now know is true. We now know it's true. But instead of everybody just getting it out there, you had to realize that even the New York Post got censored. As big as they are, as rich as they are, it's a Murdoch Publication. We're talking, you know, billion billions of dollars behind it. Even they got nuked by Jack Dorsey, right? Even they got nuked by Twitter. And then Twitter, of course, kind of backstepped or whatever. So that subtle pressure was there. I'm sure, you know, a lot of people who was like, oh, Charlie, I'll retort, retweet you. And then my Twitter account's locked. Just random everyday Americans. I've heard that so many hundreds of times. Like, I retweeted this. And then they were like, verify that you're real, give us your email, give you your phone number kind of deal, right? So the people really couldn't get their message out. They were afraid. Not just afraid, but they couldn't even participate. They would get banned. And who knows how many millions of Americans were banned, but because they didn't really have media savvy. You don't even know. So probably millions, right? We'll never really know the true number. So that delayed it now. But. But what you're. I, in my view that legislatively is lost if the GOP loses the Senate, then just, you know, we'll all have to move to South Dakota or somewhere. It's just everybody's gonna have to move to like a really ultra concentrated red area and just say, no, you're not going to come here. And this is sort of our area. Let California, New York, San Francisco and all these other cities fall. But that's why the GOP has to keep the Senate. They just absolutely have to. Mitch McConnell has the Calgary guys who get it. You know, his Josh is doing a podcast now with that ruthless podcast with comfortably smug. I mean, these guys all became radicalized after Kavanaugh. So they're still like gop, you know, fancy suit guys, but not like they used to be. Kavanaugh, as bad as I feel for what happened to him was like a. Remember the Alamo moment, what they did to him. Like I said at the time, I said, I feel bad even saying this, but I really feel bad for Kavanaugh personally. But strategically, it was good that that happened because that showed there's no bottom. That showed that the Democrats will say and do anything to get their radical agenda in play and mention them. They're still, you know, they still are. They are, but they realize now that the base had a lot of good points. So the GOP just has to keep the Senate. If they lose the Senate, it really. I hate to talk negatively. I always look the optimism and everything. Even Biden as president, if he ends up being President January 20th or whatever, if the GOP keeps the Senate, it's not over. If the GOP loses the Senate. Pray. Pray anyway, but pray even more.

[A]

So can you talk a little bit about the philosophical differences you starting to see in the Republican Party? The anti Trump voices that think as if they won? And you observe this, you know, a lot of these different pundits and voices and all that. Can you talk about. And I'm wearing the MAGA hat for a reason, because regardless of whether or not Joe Biden, you know, get sworn in, the MAGA movement has now taken over the Republican Party. And as far as I'm concerned, the Republican Party is dead. Like the Whigs were dead. And a new party has now been born. And it might be just a kind of different. It might be the same name, but different philosophy. Can you help build that out? Because I think it's really interesting some of the analysis you've been giving on Twitter lately.

[B]

Yeah, sure. So first, as to the point, the GOP got destroyed in 2018 with Trump off the ballot. Trump on the ballot in 2020 pulls up the GOP. You can't say, oh, this shows it was a rejection of Trumpism. This shows it was rejection. No, you can't. That's just ideal. In fact, if the down ballot, the GOP had lost 40 or 50 seats, I would have said, you know what? We were just, you know, we weren't reading the Nation and we just got it wrong. And it is what it is. And you can't just. As a matter of empirical fact, GOP gains in state legislators, which, by the way, redistricting is gonna be in the control of Republicans. There's a lot to be optimistic about. Everybody's focused on the presidential election. But Politico of all places, wrote a great article on how redistricting, a majority of that's gonna be in Republican hands. With the new census coming in, Republicans have actually a lot of power. So it's an empirical fact the old model of the GOP is on its way out and it's rejected. So then we talk about what is the new model, what is the old model? And a lot of it is, honestly, a lot of it is just tactics. It's the idea that if you're a conservative, you're willing to lose gracefully while the Republic or why the Democrats will win at all costs. Right? Nobody's saying you have to be a conservative and you have to lie, but you also don't let them weaponize your Christianity against you. Right? You can be a Good Christian and still say, we're playing a game with a set of rules. And in 2016, you guys said that the electors could change the votes, that the state legislators could change the electoral votes. That's what you guys said. That's what Chris Hayes and Michael Moore said. So it isn't not Christian, it isn't not conservative to just say that when you are abiding by a set of rules, then you will abide by the same rules as the Democrats. So here's what we know. We know that Republicans and conservatives have to be censored because they are the majority 66% of the country cares about what. Can you get a job? Right? Can you get a job? Maybe we disagree on should there be a minimum wage? What should it be? Should it be 859, 50, 10, 50? Should we have one at all? But I would say probably even most base conservatives aren't like, I can't believe there's a minimum wage. Right. We're not the disciples of Milton Friedman. We've read them. We find him influential. There's a lot of good ideas, but that's not really like a hill we're gonna die on. We're like, yeah, I mean, you can't make it 15, but we're still like, generally speaking, we want people to be able to have jobs. We want people to have a good life. We want people to have healthcare. We just maybe disagree the best way to get it, because you can't have unlimited healthcare, because you can't have unlimited doctors. So we agree on that. We agree on freedom. We're actually the party of science in that we haven't fallen for the hysteria. And we got to be careful because of the censors. Now, you know, Dr. Fauci today says, open up the schools. Well, we were saying that six months ago, right? So six months ago, if we did a stream about school, children should not be just running around like the gangs in New York. You'd be banned. But now that Dr. Fauci, the all seeing eye of Sauron here, has said that it's okay now you're allowed to say it. So we're actually the party of science. We're the party of decency, we're the party of humanity. We're the party of love and compassion. We just disagree, maybe at the margin. So economic populism, we want people to do well. We want people to make a good wage. We don't want unlimited immigration. Not because we don't like the rest of the world. We want to make the Rest of the world prosperous. I want Mexico to be so amazing that people are just like, we love Mexico. And I'm like, we love Mexico, too. How can we make Mexico better? Right. Versus how do you have unlimited immigration that suppresses wages? We're about nation building, but not with regime change. Right. A great example of that, by the way, is these targeted strategic strikes that have either been ordered by Trump or they've been done by Israel. But the US Is more copacetic with that happening. Now, we don't want a ground war with Iran, but if somebody gets taken out, this is just a win win. Right. So no regime change wars, but targeted actions like that, strategic actions like that makes the country better. It actually helps the people of Iran, who are quite oppressed. It helps them get more power. So those are some of the bigger philosophical differences.

[A]

Yeah, I completely agree. And so this thing is far from over. The state legislatures, as you say, can seat electors. And we have a posture of fighting, and we have had on this program, and we are gonna fight this thing every single step of this. We're gonna fight it in the courts, fight it through the public relations battle, fight it through the communication lines. So can you give us the sequence of steps you think that need to happen, Mike, here for Trump to win a second term as it is right here, ahead of. Ahead of all these very necessary dates that are coming up?

[B]

Yeah, I mean, we need two things to happen. One is we really do need a credible whistleblower with credible smoking gun evidence. Really, there has to be. And that's why Trump, by not conceding, has to be the way, because you have to just not let the Democrats run off the clock. And you have to just leave it open as possible for as long as possible. But we really do need, like, credible whistleblower evidence. And a lot of the stuff circulating online unfortunately isn't really true. But that just takes one brave patriot to save all of history. And then two is you need one state, maybe Georgia, maybe Pennsylvania. You need one state to just say pursuant to what Chris Hayes and MSNBC and Michael Moore and Hillary Clinton and John Podesta, by the way, supported the Hamilton electors. This whole idea that Hillary Clinton conceded is completely counterfactual. She conceded on election night, but then when the Hamilton electors came out and said, we're going to lobby members of the Electoral College to flip their votes, John Podesta, in an NPR article that I linked to and that you guys can find easily, was all for it. So this idea that she just went gently into the Night before the election didn't happen, they wanted the Hamilton electors and they wanted state houses to change the rules. This is all facts. So you need Republicans to just say, hey, this is what y' all proposed and we're gonna try to do it. And if it can't happen and they lose, okay, you gave it a go. But it really can't say we're gonna fix this for the next election cycle. That's far too late.

[A]

No, and I think that, look, the pathway for Trump is that it's very simple. It's that it's not that Trump's gonna get the 270. It's that Biden shouldn't be able to get the 270. It goes to the House, and the House votes on it. And the states created the federal government. The federal government did not create the states. And no state legislature with any sort of moral compass should in any way whatsoever agree with the certification of these election results. It should not happen. Especially with the amount of fraud. I mean, we have the FBI potentially looking into this. We have this 104 page lawsuit on the Sidney Powell thing. Can you weigh in on the Sidney Powell kind of, I don't want to call it drama, but kind of saga here? I know you've been following it. You know, I've seen some of your commentary on that. Can you, can you comment on that? Because there's some people that are saying, was this the big release? Is there more coming? You know, Dominion voting systems, all this? We're going to go through the lawsuit actually in a little bit. But what is your opinion on that?

[B]

My general opinion is that I said that there was no way in the world that General Flynn wasn't going to spend at least a day in prison. Sidney Powell completely changed all that. So if any, if it were anyone but her, my opinion would be this thing is not really going anywhere. And it is what it is. There might be something with the Trump campaign elections, but it's kind of like with Elon Musk, and there are a few people you don't want to bet against. Right. You really want to short Tesla. At the time, it seemed like a smart thing to do. It really did look like shorting Tesla was a smart thing to do, and now it's not so smart. So I'm not going to short Sidney Powell, but if it were anybody else but her, I wouldn't put much hope in that. But she's done the impossible before, so we'll see. The other elect, Sean Parnell. Actually, I'm Sure. You probably had him on your show already. Yes, they found some stuff that I find quite credible.

[A]

Talk about that.

[B]

Yes. It's his race, close race. He lost to Connor Lamb. They, they found a lot of addresses that were being used. How do you. How do. The best way to explain it is. And there's another account, too, where they found this. They were finding mail in ballots are being sent to mail drops. And then they were finding out that they were dual voters where the logs didn't match. So, for example, I, you know, I live in California, but then suddenly I moved to Pennsylvania, but it looks like I'm registered in both states still. And you're like, well, that doesn't prove I voted twice. Right. That's why this is so hard, is it doesn't prove that they voted twice, but it does show at a mass level at the numbers that we're looking at, that there's a great possibility that a lot of people voted twice or that a lot of people were straw voters in Pennsylvania or they set up mail drops. And he's fighting that hard. And I've been watching that and paying a lot of attention to that. And I don't know that seems credible. And Sean's a very credible guy. He's not a flake at all. And they're fighting hard. So I'm really watching that closely.

[A]

Well, and also, Mike, I mean, Sean Parnell probably was caught in collateral damage around Trump, which is why Republicans did so well outside of Trump focused areas outside of where they needed to win to defeat Trump. Republicans did incredibly well. It was almost, you could go down to the very county line of where Trump does bad or where, where Joe Biden does historically well. And the other, it's almost like an absolute county line. And so I want to close with this. Mike, can you give exact marching orders for our audience of what we can do? Because our position is we need to continue to expose and to fight. There have been so much. There's just been an unbelievable flow of evidence and things that we demand answers to right now. What is your call to action for our audience people?

[B]

The polite phone calls, this stuff I'm reading about Brian Camp and what people are doing, if that's Republicans, don't go near that stuff, you know, So I think it's Democrats making threats to try to blame it on Republicans because I've seen that happen to me. But what is that?

[A]

I didn't see that story.

[B]

Oh, yeah, yeah. So Brian Kemp and his family, they're getting a lot of threats regarding this and it's making it seem like the threats are coming from Republicans. So keep. Stay in their faces. But with love, just make it. If you see Democrats up to any kind of good or any kind of bad, especially at events, keep your eyes open. At one of the events in Arizona, there was a person there, big Trump jersey, just trying to cause trouble with people. Did not strike me as a Trump supporter. So one is get to the streets in a peaceful way with the message of love and unity. Keep the pressure on, but keep your eyes open. Know that there are a lot of people trying, a lot of Democrats trying to infiltrate to make everybody look bad. Keep picking up the phone calls, phone calls. Work pressure campaigns, Work pressure campaigns again in a civil and lawful way. Let them know that you're paying attention. Let them know that this matters to you. And by the way, the reason I say with love is that right now the temperature is high. But if you're yelling at Brian Kemp, you better do this your week. That's not going to work right now. Say, look, I voted for you. I support you. I support the gop. I voted Republican in every election for the past four elections. I want to keep voting Republican, but earn it. So the message that I think you need to keep sending, and by you, I mean the people watching everybody, I voted for you, but you still have to earn my vote. Earn my vote. Earn my vote. Do these things and you'll have my vote in the next election.

[A]

And keep the pressure on. So, Mike, you mentioned a couple Solinsky's rules. Use the enemy's own rules against them, like you said with Chris Hayes, and keep the pressure on. You've read your rules for radicals, I could tell. So it's pretty good. How can people support your work, Mike?

[B]

Well, if they haven't watched Hoax movie, they can watch Hoax Movie that's still on itunes, Google everywhere but Amazon, which is weird because that was the one I thought it wouldn't get banned for. So there was something. Jeff Bezos and the Washington Post really are cracking down because Hoax, which you've seen, is a very fair movie. We're fair to the left, we're fair to black. We're fair to everybody. Because if you're in a movie, I want to present the best case for you so that you come out in the debate of ideas able to argue with other people. So they can watch Hoax Movie. They can watch a plot against the president, which I didn't make, but I'm in number of people are in there. It's a really good one. And it's like the number one documentary actually. Now it's got more ratings on Amazon than Borat's. So it's, it's bigger than big, bigger than Boras. So they can watch a plot against the president, a hoax movie, and keep supporting the people on the ground. Order some food for people. Just little things. Everybody thinks you have to do something like monumental. But just right now, when the fate of the Republic is resting on everyone's shoulders, even just a little push, even just a little kind gesture can be all the difference between victory and defeat.

[A]

It's well said. Mike. Thank you so much for joining our livestream. We deeply appreciate it. So thank you, my friend.

[B]

My pleasure.

[A]

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[E]

so

[A]

I want to get to a. I want to get to a tweet here from Kyle Becker. Georgia Governor Kemp is no stranger to wiping servers clean. In 2017, Kemp was caught in a scandal over a server quietly wiped clean. Just after a suit was filed. Today, a judge issued a order to halt a quote software update. It was reversed. This is by Kyle Becker. And actually it's from AP News Amazingly, Georgia election server wiped after suit filed and now so look Governor Brian Kemp, he decided to defy President Trump with the appointment of Kelly Loeffler. We hope Kelly wins. We're going to help Kelly at turning point Action. But this what who is in the ear of Brian Kemp right now in Georgia and these weak Republicans, I mean this, you get the government that you, I don't wanna say you deserve, but they're just playing the script that we give them. And these weak Republicans that have kind of hid behind the Trump love has all of a sudden now we're seeing exactly where that is. So do you have that lawsuit pulled up? Sidney Powell. Well, by the way, Sidney Powell suing Brian Kemp, which is why I mentioned it. So this 104 page lawsuit, we're gonna go through this right now exclusively. You guys can email us your questions. Freedomarliekirk.com Austin what do you got there?

[D]

So, so this is something I noticed earlier. Section two, evidence of fraud. A pattern showing the absence of mistake. The stunning pattern of the nature and acts of fraud demonstrate an absence of mistake. The same affiant which if you don't know who that is, that's somebody who swears on an affidavit explained in sworn testimony that the breach included. When we received the machines, they were not sealed or locked. The serial numbers were not what they reflected on the related documentation. So that means that those machines were given to the county office, wherever those people go to vote, were not the ones that matched that they were supposed to come in for that voting, which should be illegal. And so if you're the county person, you should say we've got to stop voting. This is not what we've ordered because that makes them look bad and it puts them in a bad situation.

[A]

And so Tyler, Phil mentioned that they have these centralized voting county areas. You were calling the flat. You were blowing the whistle on this weeks ago.

[C]

Yeah, I mean this is, it's become abundantly clear that what they're calling vote centers or consolidated voting centers where they were getting rid of the precinct based voting, they're getting rid of the ward based voting. And they wanted to. Why would you want to do this? Why would you want to consolidate voting centers? Well, it's because you can mix. Just like Phil brought up before. If you have all these people coming to these random vote centers, if you wanted to inject a bunch of votes into that voting center, no one would ever be able to figure it out. The reason why it's so important in each of These states in Georgia, Arizona, this is why we filed a lawsuit originally in Arizona, from the Arizona Republican Party, was that if you do not have a geographic designated area to compare the data to, anyone can change the votes at any given location. And so just for everybody that's watching at home right now, what's basically happened across the country while Republicans have been asleep at the wheel, and this includes governors, this includes Republican secretaries of state, this includes Republican recorders and elections officials, is that they've allowed under Covid. And gosh, I hate to get super conspiracy theorists on this.

[A]

We just ask questions.

[C]

We just ask questions. We're asking the question, which is, why do we just keep having, you know, Covid all of a sudden spike when deaths are increasing? And because every time that they want to utilize this crisis in order to push what fits their agenda, which their agenda was this is that they wanted to consolidate all the voting centers and mix them all up so that they weren't attached to a geographic area, what apparently looks like to aid them in committing voter fraud, whether injecting more ballots or changing the votes at the polling place.

[A]

Did this in Arizona, right?

[C]

This is what happened.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

But it happened in Georgia, too. Happened in Pennsylvania. It's almost like this was a national strategy.

[C]

I can't tell you exactly what happened, but it looks like this started being implemented in 2018, this idea of no

[A]

more ward based or precinct bailouts.

[D]

So we always encourage people to vote within their precinct. If you can't vote within your precinct, you need to vote within your legislative district. You need to stay as close to home as possible, because then you get some. Yeah, I want a ballot. Okay, Boom. Just throw it into that. I live in Phoenix and I actually

[A]

have my residence of checks and balances in our government is how we did our elections. Checks and balances, you know, Ward 72.

[C]

Here's what's really interesting. So what we people realize, and this happened in Arizona too, was we all of a sudden had all these people from California coming from out of state into Arizona, poll watching. And even there's been some reports. Well, there's been some reports also in other states that they were working at the polls. So people that were like very new, they never seen. Because think about this. If you've been voting, if you're an old person that's been voting your entire life, you've been voting like at the same church, the same school for your entire life. And very often those people that work at the polls have been the same people that worked at the polls forever all Of a sudden this year they got rid of all of that. So the voting centers, the precinct based voting centers went away and now you have all these voting centers and now you have these people that come from out of state more often than not now running the show, don't you? I mean again, hopefully people can mail into you and email into you about this. But if you had this experience where you've been voting for a long time at the same place and then all of a sudden things change and something just didn't feel right, that's the experience that people were feeling in a lot of these places and swing states that Biden had to win in order to win the election.

[A]

And this would explain the overconfidence that Biden had. This would explain why he didn't campaign. He hid behind hundreds of millions of dollars of television ads, digital ads, a huge outside money strategy, and elections changing permanently through the mail in balloting formulation. But what's so amazing though is that why Arizona, Georgia and Pennsylvania all would be making the same decisions to all of a sudden saying we want to centralize our elections with the same vendors. Yeah, Dominion Voting System. We have this chart. Can you grab that chart?

[C]

So if you don't think that that's

[D]

the part of this lawsuit is that city Powell put in is that they, they had the voting machine show up to a voting location and it's not the one that they have asked for.

[C]

Do you any should have raised alarms

[D]

long ago and say stop the voting. Nobody gets to vote on this because this is.

[C]

Do you want to hear a crazy conspiracy thing that just ask questions. Well, do you want me to ask you a question or do you want me to ask questions about crazy conspiracy? So all of a sudden, the night of the election, there were all these really crazy planes flying into. Into sky harbor airports. Not sky harbor, smaller regional airports and people.

[A]

So why were there airplanes?

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Scottsdale.

[C]

So someone. There was a report. I'm just saying there's a report. I don't know if it ever got investigated or what the result of it was. Was that it looked like elections related material was being carried on and off a small foreign aircraft.

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Where did you hear this?

[C]

From a credible source.

[A]

Credible source. Not a message board?

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No. Someone that literally worked at one of these airports. No. Worked at these airports because I'm the national Committeeman. I started getting a phone call from somebody I love it by the way, was friends with somebody that worked and allegedly saw this. And it looked like ballots, according to that person being on and off an airplane on the day of the election here in Arizona.

[A]

So what would they possibly be? Okay, again, the question is the luggage stamp was Wuhan.

[C]

It was also. This is a foreign aircraft. It was a foreign aircraft. Now, again, I'm not. I'm not legitimizing this, but my point is that what's scary, and this is the truth, is that when you take away precinct voting, if someone did inject a bunch of. A bunch of ballots into a specific. Any precinct, or you spread them all across all the precincts, we would never know now because they never did the test. And guess what, guys, all the guards are down. Because again, I love all these wonderful old people who have been voting at the same place for their entire life. They're the guys that raise the red flags, right? They're the ones that have been working

[D]

at these polls, that know how election

[C]

they've been going to these polling places. And as soon as something's off, you can bet your britches that these old guys are going, hey, something's all right. And finally. And if there are observers filing the report, those old guys are filing the report.

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If you look at Georgia, this is Dominion Voting Systems. This is all the different vendors. It just so happens Pennsylvania, Georgia and Arizona, Wisconsin all use the same vendors, and the only overlap is this election systems and software. But these other vendors, they don't use Dominion. So Dominion is most heavily used in Georgia, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan. It's crazy. All with the same software.

[C]

And you're seeing the dots the way that you're seeing them.

[A]

Yep.

[C]

And this is something that was brought up here, too, Right. By Phil. And this is something that's really unique and interesting. That sucks about Arizona and a lot of places out West. The beauty of the Midwest and the east coast is that the counties are small. Yeah, Right. The Midwest and the east coast, you have a county that's basically the size of, like, a very small town, and that allows for real local control to make sure that people are going in and we're able to figure out things a lot easier. Right. Maricopa county, everything, basically, west of Texas, several major cities, you have gigantic counties. Right. And I actually am a big believer. This is part of the reason why you've seen Colorado and parts of Texas and Arizona and Nevada and California. This is why California is such a mess, is that you have these county boards, right. And the county recorders that are able to be taken advantage of really quickly within these systems because they're so big that you can make changes that no one's ever going to figure out. And I'm telling you, the bigger something is, the more problems, the more cracks you're going to find in the system. There are cracks and this is what we're beginning to see with the Sidney Powell stuff, right? Is that there are cracks in the system. Nobody's wanted to talk about these cracks for a long time. It hasn't made a big enough difference to talk about for a long time. But with technology and everything else, we could be fighting these battles for the next four years pretty vigorously. And to your point, Charlie, we can't give up. We can't have Republicans give up or

[A]

give any ground fight on everything. This is why this lawsuit and so many others. Do you have other info on the lawsuit, Austin?

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I do.

[D]

I wanna pull this up. Really here.

[A]

Let's do it. Let's dive into that. Cuz it's so important and this is a trying moment to see who's actually willing to have the backbone and the spine to fight in this moment in our country. So I wanna thank you guys for emailing us. Freedom. Charliekirk.com what do you got there?

[D]

So it says here we've been talking about Dominion and so this part of section 41 in this lawsuit retention and preservation of records and papers by officers of elections deposit with custodian penalty for violation. Every officer of the election, whether you're the county recorder or you're somebody who works for the county recorder, you have to swear an oath that you're not going to alter the election whatsoever or you're not going to mess with anything. So you have observers come in. And so this says every officer election shall retain and preserve for a period of 22 months from the date or any general special primary election, yada yada yada, all records and papers which come into the possession of retailing, any application, registratement, payment of payroll tax, other requisite, or voting in such an election. So they're talking about paying the Dominion Voting System people, right? They're not allowed to take how can somebody who works for the Dominion voting System but also works for the county take both of those paychecks? Does that not raise an alarm to somebody? If I work for Maricopa county and I'm also working for Dominion Voting System, why hasn't that been raised the alarm months and months and years ago when that actually came into effect? So why does somebody who works for the Georgia see exactly what the with the Georgia Secretary of State also taking a paycheck or any type of funding from the Dominion Voting Company and also working for the state of Georgia.

[C]

You're bringing up a really good point. And for those.

[D]

That goes for any county, any state

[C]

with any elections that are involved here, guys, if a third party can come in and start paying people off, even if it's totally kosher. Right. Which means we're paying people to do a job and then they start having allegiance to a software company rather than the country. To the country or to the county in this case, because they swore an oath to the county at the county level, to the country to defend the vote, which is essentially defending the Constitution. That's a huge problem. And that is exactly a problem that should be nipped in the bud. It's a call. It's a reason why we probably need a national voting system. Right.

[A]

The problem with the national voting system constitutionally is the states. Well, the states are supposed to administer the elections, first of all. And secondly, the one problem of the national voting system is what if everyone uses Dominion now all of a sudden the national voting system is worse? Like the worst possible thing.

[C]

Yeah, 100%. I mean national voting, I guess I should say this is that you put in a national voting system, meaning that there should be a physical ballot system. There's argument to be made that we need to have a physical ballot system like the good old days. Right. We need to return back to the good old days. And that's what conservatives are supposed to be.

[A]

I think we absolutely should have a physical. I mean this idea when you push a button. When I voted in Florida, I voted on a real ballot. Then I put it in a machine. I don't know what came out of that machine. But I know in Florida they don't have these centralized counting centers. That's why they were able to get their results so quick.

[C]

There shouldn't be just a pure digital system for sure. And that some of those you do have that.

[D]

So who's the. Whoever the Secretary of State of Texas is is obviously the smartest or the most competent person on the planet because they're the only secret.

[A]

Not so fast.

[D]

I don't know that has said that is said that it said is like Dominion is inaccurate.

[A]

He rejected it so many times he

[D]

said so as evidence of the defects or the features of the Dominion democracy suit. The Texas Secretary of State January 24, 2020 Specifically because a lack of evidence of efficiency accuracy to be safe from fraud and unauthorized manipulation.

[A]

And that's where no other this is in the lawsuit.

[D]

So were there no other Secretary of States who read this report, Republicans especially that were like the Texas Secretary of State. Something's wrong with it. You know what? Let's, let's probably look into that.

[A]

So here's a question. Who owns Dominion? It's actually not obvious. We don't know. There's holding companies, shell companies, layers. Who owns Dominion? If anyone out there knows, email us please. Freedom charliekirk.com because you'd give us a bigger scoop than the Watergate tapes. And here's what's just so incredibly disappointing. Then I want to get into this youth article with you. It's so incredibly disappointing because this. If the activist media was interested, they would come across one of the greatest political scandals in American history. They would win Pulitzer prizes for the

[D]

next 100 years, closing a major political corporation.

[C]

Well, here's what's so crazy about it, is that all of these same people, these journalists are the ones that have been just like complaining and crying and moaning about election integrity and supporting the rule of law when it comes to elections. We need everybody to vote and they need to vote correctly. But as soon as you start asking questions about, wait, wait, who's voting and can you like, who's counting? Can we put a face to a name here? Then they start going, oh, we don't need to talk about any of this. And it's exactly the reason why, you know, this whole fake news thing took off so hard four years ago, five years ago, when the President started this is. I'm a big believer and we talked about this this week on a different show was that nobody trusts the media, nobody trusts the political parties, nobody trusts the government. Right. They don't trust and young people in particular trust none of those things.

[A]

That's right.

[D]

And definitely not the establishment.

[C]

And this is exactly why is because as soon as they never stand by exactly what they mean, it's all about control and for them just getting power. And that's where we're at right now is the media has lost so much power that they absolutely have. They've become. The Democrat Party has become the de facto party of the media and they need Democrats in office in order to survive. And guys, the more we can, the less government we have, the less media we have, the less power we give media. I should say.

[A]

Well, this is the new.

[C]

The better we're gonna be.

[A]

The new fight now is going to. Going to be. We are going to be anti big government, anti big corporate because they're working together and big corporate hates our guts and they have the.

[D]

A disdain.

[A]

Yeah, we got a nice email from Trevor who compliments us. You were Ahead of them again. Powell cites what McInerney said on your show in her lawsuits and what he talked about with Kraken 305th Division. That is correct. Here on this program, we were ahead on Hammer Scorecard, Dominion voting systems, voter registration irregularities, Dane County. We've been ahead of it. And you guys have made that [e-mail]. that's because this is a grass support.

[C]

This is a grassroots.

[A]

Grassroots.

[C]

That's because everybody's contributing to this from the ground up. There's very few shows. I'll just say this. It's not just because you're a contributor. Yeah.

[A]

You know, we do this spare time. So I run. We have day jobs.

[C]

I run the day to day at Turning Point USA and Turning Point Action. And I did. And Turning Point Action and I. I just got done putting up all my Christmas lights. It's gonna look incredible. But this is what I started. I broke from that to come over here. I'm not just saying this, but Charlie puts in more time and effort on this. But everything we do is really truly a grassroots thing. We get thousands upon thousands of emails and messages and Facebook messages, Instagram messages, through Turning Point USA through Turning Point Action, through stands for Trump, through everything Charlie does on his show. Nobody has that kind of mechanism for pulling together all this information.

[A]

We listen to you guys when you yell us stuff. It's incredible.

[C]

And we wish we could spend more time with everybody too.

[B]

But we.

[A]

So Janice says we should go try and find flight logs from the airports. It's actually not a bad idea for your theory that the Chinese were flying in ballots.

[C]

So I'll tell you this. Rudy Giuliani was made aware of that circumstance.

[A]

So I think you should go find the flight logs and find out.

[C]

We'll find out.

[A]

Ballots from Ruhan. Janice, that is a great point. Also, some people are saying that the Dominion voting system's offices have been vacated completely. I think that's right.

[C]

I heard that.

[A]

I don't have that. Third party verified also that Dominion was going to testify in front of Pennsylvania and they decided not to.

[D]

That's what.

[A]

That's what's reported.

[D]

I don't know if it's 100% true, but that's what was said.

[A]

We try to corroborate this. That's allegedly. However, I would completely believe it. And I'm also told that the Dominion voting system shares an office floor with either the Tides foundation or the Soros Foundation. That one I'm a little more shaky on. So we'll have to get A fact check on that. So as we're getting this incredible video queued up, you guys aren't gonna wanna miss it. You guys can email us your questions freedomarliekirk.com I wanna go over. So there is this ridiculous Politico piece that came out. Report is a nice enough person. You actually have it right here. And it was trying to hit. And I don't wanna get too into the piece. I wanna just talk more broadly about this idea of young voters and Trump. First of all, how. How did young voters vote for Trump in Georgia versus 2016?

[D]

So in Georgia, the president performed nine points better in 2020 than he did in 2016.

[A]

Nine points better.

[D]

And we did in Turning Point Action did two districts in a Super Saturday in one day in Georgia.

[A]

We spent a ton of money on ads in Georgia.

[C]

We did billboards. We had millions of text messages. We're still sending out here.

[D]

And we had students drive from Louisiana and Alabama to come hit doors for the president in Georgia. And just for the president.

[C]

And we fought hard too, for Karen Handel.

[D]

Karen Handel. Karen Handel came and hung out with us. And then Dr. And then Dr. McCormick as well.

[C]

Yep, yep.

[A]

But some people are trying to say Turning Point Action, which is a non campaign group. Grassroots, Grassroots, funded thousands of members. How many students for Trump groups did we have?

[D]

Students for Trump groups. So total we have over 350 students for Trump chapters across the country. And then at every Georgia school we had a students for.

[A]

And so yet Joe Biden had how many students for Biden groups?

[D]

Not more than we can think of.

[C]

We never know a number.

[A]

We don't even know a number. So we start this.

[D]

They weren't an organized group.

[A]

We start this amazing movement. We hosted the president in June, 3,800 people. Politico said we had a couple hundred people. I have this beautiful picture in my office of what we did. We had five days notice.

[C]

We should pull it up.

[A]

Tulsa was a couple days ahead. We're having a couple of issues.

[D]

Two days ahead.

[A]

Yeah. Tulsa was two days ahead. We blow it out of the water. 3,800 people is unbelievable. Millions of eyeballs on the event. Right. Not to mention we did super Saturdays in Michigan, Minnesota, Georgia, Arizona. We do the most amazing events in North Carolina. In Arizona, I speak like a madman. I gave a hundred speeches in like 60 days from September 1st. Two podcasts a day, two radio shows a day.

[C]

And then all of our chapters were still doing stuff too.

[A]

Our chapters are registering voters. Our chapters are doing stuff. We're running. We probably ran at least a million dollars of digital ads. Right? Probably more or less, maybe a little bit less, I don't know. But we have hundreds of thousands minimum. Right.

[C]

A lot of it. Our strategy on digital is organic.

[A]

There's some lunatic from the campaign. By the way, this is exactly why Trump was undercut from within. Just so you understand, who leaked to Politico that they blame us Turning Point for the youth vote not being where it wants. First of all, we did better with the youth vote. Okay? This political piece is a complete and total lie.

[D]

Let's also just say, like, when campuses got shut down, we shifted gears.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

They were like, okay, so we're going to go digital. We're going to bring in congressmen, we're going to bring in governors, we're going to bring in senators, we're going to bring in people that are running for the House, we're going to do digital voter registration online. We didn't stop. So the whole idea that we didn't outreach the people off campus, you're just wrong.

[A]

We did it for.

[D]

We did it for three and a half years.

[A]

And we're not trying to be overly defensive here. We're trying to say this. It's a very important point because we dealt with the last couple of days on Thanksgiving weekend, people from the campaign, the Trump campaign, they spend their time not on election fights, not on voter integrity, not what we're doing. They're trying to be like, we don't like that Turning Point group out there. We don't like us. You understand what's happening here is that the establishment, Open Border, pro China, BLM Incorporated people have infiltrated the Republican Party at the very highest level. And that's the fight that's really happening here.

[C]

Well, here's.

[A]

And we did better with younger voters.

[C]

Here's. What's so funny, too, is, is that, you know, Austin and the team worked their tails off. We had literally thousands of people out knocking doors. We ended up knocking over well over 100,000 doors between Super Saturday events alone. That doesn't include also chapter events and supplementing and supporting and helping college Republicans and things like that. Because, I mean, honestly, look, guys, the reality is that college Republicans should have been starting students for Trump. And it happens.

[A]

We created a grassroots movement like the country has never seen. American President.

[C]

Yeah, we worked together with, with Ryan Fournier, who had. Had created some incredible digital presence. Ryan is one of the most engaged people that's on Twitter, on Instagram. Great.

[A]

We.

[C]

We pulled that in and then built a field team that was really incredible.

[D]

800 million followers on Instagram.

[A]

And we did better in Michigan, we did better in Georgia.

[C]

And by the way, the just hasn't even settled yet. We don't even know.

[A]

Yeah, we don't even know all the precinct data, but we do know this.

[C]

And the fraud that it did, it's inexplicable.

[A]

Campuses were closed in Wisconsin. Campus. Great. We still did our job then. How on earth, how did Biden do so much miraculously better at UW Madison despite it being closed than Obama did? No one's answering. No one's answering that question.

[C]

This article is fighting on their turf. Which is the premise, which I don't.

[A]

I want to dismiss the premise.

[C]

I understand.

[A]

I think it's important that people know that BLM Incorporated people have infiltrated the Republican Party.

[C]

Okay. That we'll get back to open border.

[A]

Hold that thought. Pro China.

[C]

Hold that thought for a second though. What we need to all understand here is that the premise that the media is pushing right now, particularly Politico, particularly the bad guys at the New York

[A]

Times, and she's a nice enough reporter, she just got sold.

[C]

And the Washington Post is that somehow Joe Biden outperformed Boat Parade Donald Trump and Hope and change Barack Obama. And the fact is, guys, if you wanna live in some alternate reality, alternate universe where you think that actually happened, you're crazy. Because Joe Biden, who hung out in his basement, who apparently walks out of his house and breaks his ankle breaking Joe Biden is breaking.

[A]

Someone should investigate.

[C]

Kamala, is that that didn't happen. And so if you want to just take the premise that, okay, somehow Joe Biden outperformed Hillary Clinton and, and Barack Obama almost combined in their numbers on turnout and specific categories, you're crazy. It just hasn't happened. And I actually believe that this brings us to the point, which is that I think Republicans have dropped the ball totally in voter fraud happening amongst youth. And one thing that we talked about this weekend that we're starting to investigate is that over the course of the last four years, every time a young person moves from out of state into college, into a dorm, right? What essentially they do is they're encouraged to re register to vote, especially if they're on the left.

[A]

By Rock the Vote.

[C]

By Rock the Vote, groups like that that we talked about a little bit

[A]

earlier, access to our voter rules.

[C]

Yeah, a lot of groups. I mean, literally hundreds of groups like all these groups that we just talked about, right. And so they, they change their voter registration, but they never change it back. And so what happens is if I move from, if I go from Illinois to Wisconsin and I register to vote at UW Madison, right. My voter registration is going to remain active. Well, why is this problematic? Well, in states that have early ballots, a ballot is still going to be sent to that location. So what is happening? What do I think is actually happening? What have I seen actually happen at places like Arizona State University where these ballots continue to go to places these people are very much alive, but they may or may not be at that same location. And so what's happening a lot more often than we would like to admit. And I think that this is why we need to audit the vote completely.

[A]

Every vote we need a is there

[C]

voting at home legitimately and then some skis bag is voting for all these people with all these votes that are ending up in these youth oriented areas.

[A]

Audit of every single person. And it needs to be done. But I just wanna close the loop on this. Just so you know that people within the campaign that betrayed Donald Trump were pitching reporters on this story for whatever reason. I don't understand. But we are a grassroots movement. Austin, you did amazing job and I want to just close it up while

[C]

we're still fighting in Georgia too.

[A]

We're still fighting, by the way, we're going to be spending. We're leaving for Georgia tomorrow. We're leaving for Georgia. What are these people doing? These people have stolen your money for years. They've opened our borders, they've surrendered to China and they have pandered the corporate elite. There's a storm coming and we will not forget what these people have done for our country in the Republican establishment in our country. It's really sick.

[D]

I will say there's some new members of Congress that we could call upon if we had to that say we're the only group that came to help them.

[A]

Well, so let's use one example. So if anyone. Here's one example of what we do here at Turning Point. Action being so important. I hope you guys understand this. Marionette Miller Meeks is about to become a congresswoman. By how many voters?

[D]

Six votes.

[A]

And that also is in what district?

[D]

Iowa City.

[A]

So six votes. We were there. Do you think that the super Saturday on the thousands of doors we knocked and the tens of thousands of dollars of ads and the yard signs, do you think that that probably made an impact for the 600% for a U.S. congresswoman?

[D]

Everybody, exact thing with Minnesota, seven with Michelle Fischbach, which is western Minnesota, if you don't know where that's part of that part of Minnesota. It's all.

[A]

No, we had a fly flew into

[D]

North Dakota and then we had to drive in and hit doors for her in probably just a neighborhood that was the only neighborhood in that area of that certain precinct.

[A]

How about Elvira. Elvira Salazar? How about they should call Elvira Salazar and see Elvira? Call Peter Meyer, call Dan Bishop, Mike Garcia.

[B]

Go.

[A]

Call Michelle Steele, Call young Kim. We were the only group out there doing this sort of stuff. We had millions of dollars deployed across the country, hundreds of thousands of students. And I want you to imagine if we just stopped doing our job because the Republican establishment, they tried to pull a fast one on us. And we're going to find out the people that did this. We are going to name the names. And they tried to come after all of us and they tried. All of a sudden they say, oh, we don't like what they're doing because they're threatening our contracts. They're getting the way of our Wuhan, you know, deals. They're getting the way of all that sort of stuff. And I want you guys to understand, what if we just stopped doing what we were doing? The 2,000 campuses that were on at Turning Point USA would go away. The 350 students for Trump chapters wouldn't have existed. Right. Who hosted these events for the president when no one else wanted to host the events in the midst of the pandemic? I could go on and on. I want you to listen to this video right here. Dominion Executive. Listen what he has to say. This guy works for Dominion. Trump is not going to win. I made sure of it. Play tape. Joe, you infiltrated an antifa conference call this past September and accidentally came upon a top Dominion Voting Systems executive named Eric Kumar. Describe that call and what it led you to find.

[E]

It was interesting how the call started. Somebody says, who's Eric? He says, eric is Dominion guy. Someone actually said, you know, hey, go ahead. Told him to continue speaking. And someone interrupts and says, what are we going to do if effing Trump wins? And Eric responds, and I'm paraphrasing this, by the way, don't worry about the election. Trump is not going to win. I made effing sure of that. And then they started laughing and somebody says, effing. Right at that point, I thought to myself, you know, this guy's crazy. These people are crazy because they think that they are Jedi warriors and they can just will themselves to Trump not winning.

[A]

And so this is a guy that allegedly heard a Dominion executive say that Trump is not going to win. I made effing sure of that. Pretty incredible. This is Dominion Voting Systems.

[C]

So, yeah, thank you for pulling that up when I saw that. It's pretty crazy that you can't be a elections official or a county supervisor, I think in any county in this country. Watch that and be like, I feel great about putting my stamp signing my name that this election was conducted with the highest amount of intention.

[A]

And I just want to know, any state legislature that certifies this election, you're going to be held legally accountable for this for years to come. These lawsuits are not going to end if they sneak it by. You better be very careful certifying any elections.

[C]

Well, let me bring up a point too.

[A]

So it would be like people who supply drugs to Lance Armstrong.

[C]

Let me bring up a point to you. This is something that is mind numbing to me because people are like, oh, well, especially moderates are like, let's just get on with it. Joe Biden's not that bad.

[A]

Whatever, let's open the borders. Surrender to China.

[C]

Yeah, we know all these things, right? And again, to that point, I don't think that's motivational enough to win in Georgia. I think it has to be an understanding here that, guys, the Republican Party is solidly behind the president right now. Ronna Romney McDaniel, who I don't think anyone really viewed her as like a grassroots, like hardcore, like ultra conservative. She's a friend. She's a good friend. But what I'm saying is she's behind the President 100%, calling on everybody to get behind the president and investigate in every state right now. The establishment position right now in the Republican Party, let it go. Is do not let this whole thing go investigate absolutely. Every single election that was happening across the country. And we're gonna fight this thing tooth and nail to make sure that this was done right.

[D]

There's a lot of Republican governors and Senate or secretaries of state that are up in 2022 that are gonna have to get.

[C]

But this is my point. Governors that are going against. That are going against the Republican National Committee. And that's typically not the case. Typically, the RNC's totally sucks.

[A]

Falls in behind the.

[C]

Coming from a member of the rnc.

[A]

Trump is making a very smart move, is that he's like, I'm not gonna lose control of the rnc, no matter what. This is my party. I'm not going away. You all work for me now. And anyone who dares get on the wrong side of this, if you're Afraid to mention George Soros Dominion Voting Systems, Hammer and Card. You're a friend of no. All this stuff. If you're afraid don't mention all this sort of stuff, then you're a compromised person and you should not be involved in Republican conservative politics. How much of Marionette Miller makes a win by six votes? Six votes.

[C]

We were there.

[A]

Six votes. We are on the ground. Every single thing we do matters. Every single thing we do matters, everybody.

[C]

Well, while we're on the topic, let's get back on the topic with what we were doing in this whole stupid political thing. So Iowa, right? Miller Meeks, they just called it. She won by six votes. So let me just paint the picture just for everybody that's out there. Everyone's listening. Obviously a lot of grassroots activists that are listening right now. How this whole thing works is if there's 100 turning point actions out in the world and we all contribute just a little bit, that's how we win more elections. Right? And so what's happening right now? And of course the left is going to come after us because we're like one of the only ones that exist, right? We were the only, some of the only people in some of these district as Austin brought up that actually showed up and did an external, what they call independent expenditure event, right?

[A]

A deployment.

[C]

A deployment. Physical deployment. While nobody was doing physical deployments, everyone was claiming Covid give everyone indoors. Oh, we'll make phone calls. Well, guess what, guys, There were a lot of people that said they were making phone calls. Not really making phone calls. We actually showed up physically to knock doors. And in Iowa they just called the race. She won by six votes. If we didn't show up.

[A]

Six votes. Six. Just to give you an idea that's like our panel, double the panel. And by the way, Connor was there. Emma was there volunteering.

[D]

State Rep. Joe Mitchell.

[A]

Connor says here Joe Mitchell was there. Those Iowa City neighborhoods were lined with BLM signs and TPA was the only group of braving it and activating those Republican voters. Congresswoman Marionette Miller, Meeks, everybody.

[C]

Let me bring up something about Arizona real quick.

[A]

Yeah, I'm getting a lot of questions. Everyone considers you guys to be the Arizona Svengalis.

[D]

We have seventh and fifth generation.

[C]

Well, so Arizona is really interesting right now and I think we have a real battle in front of us. And for those of you that are in Nevada too, we need to keep up the fight really hard because I just got off the phone this week with the National Commitment from Utah. His name is Bruce Huff, his daughter and son are. You probably know, Julianne and Derek Huff. Anyways, the conversation we had was that all eyes right now are on Arizona of holding the line because what's next is Utah. What's next is we have the entire west, including Texas, could be gone like that. The big deal for us right now as conservatives is that we absolutely have to start paying more attention. We have to get people involved. Those of you that are in this chat right now, none of you are precinct committeemen. You gotta get involved with the Republican Party.

[A]

Locally, some people are precinct committeemen. But that's a great point of action, is it's the vast majority. Every person should be a precinct committeeman,

[C]

become a precinct committeeman. Here's the reason why a lot of people, again, complain about the party. The party is just a construct of people. And the reality is I don't trust the party. I'm national committeeman. I'm a voting member of the RNC. Now you are the party.

[A]

Now.

[C]

There's 168 of us. It's three for each state and territory. But I can understand people's hesitance to trust the Republican Party. The Republican Party has really screwed us a lot of times and not really done a huge amount of justice right now. I would say I've seen more hope out of the Republican Party than I've ever seen. But the reason is because Trump has returned the keys back to the grassroots.

[A]

That's exactly right.

[D]

I'm so excited for the 2021 state party and county meetings because the Trump people are still going to show up.

[C]

People are ready to rock it. If you're a Trump supporter, if you. That means that you're. That's code for being. You're a grassroots person, right? It really is. And don't let people be like, oh, party of Trump. Like, party of Trump.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I wore that as a badge of honor because I'm not part of the old guard that just didn't care about what was going. Look at Jeb Bush this week. Jeb Bush is like, he's like, gone in for a job within the Biden administration.

[A]

Is he really?

[D]

Yeah, he's going to be an ambassador.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I mean, Jeb Bush, Cindy McCain, like this entire crowd, right. Guys that were apparently that were part of the Reaganite line of succession here. These people have all abandoned the party.

[A]

Jeb Bush is asking for a job in the Biden administration.

[C]

Now, the official. I could be wrong. He's been touted, but he is the official Republican outreach arm for Joe Biden.

[A]

So basically he doesn't want to get targeted.

[C]

So basically whatever he's involved with is so bad it's going to get taken down by those guys. No, I mean, look, it's not even that. It's just they're weak and they just want to be in the, with the in crowd, right? And the Bushes have been on the outside for the last four years. And so the first chance that they have to get in with somebody, they're willing to do that. We saw that with Jeff Flake. We've seen this with Mitt Romney, we've seen this with so many. They just want to play basketball with Obama at the White House, right? Like, okay, guys, this isn't your job. The job here is to represent the grassroots and stand up. And so for all of you that are Trump people, that's code for being a grassroots person. Get involved with the party, become a precinct committeeman. The party will become you if you, if you involve yourself, if you choose not to. Which I don't blame you because I wish I didn't have to do this stuff because I just, once I became aware, became aware of it, I felt like I was pulled to do it.

[A]

But every person should be a precinct committee.

[C]

Austin and I are precinct committee men. We're precinct captains.

[A]

It's so easy when you show up to a couple meetings and you're just responsible for your neighborhood.

[D]

Tyler's 100% right. Because when he, when Tyler was running for national in Arizona, we did a full out effort because we knew the battle was coming to Arizona. Whether it's 2020, 2022, 2024. That's why we did so much behind Tyler and all these other Republicans that are coming up from the grassroots, that don't want to have anything to do with the party. But we know how important is because conservatism as a whole, our movement, our ideas, everything that we believe the party is a vehicle for us to get it on the ballot, for us to support candidates in that way. And we can't do it if there's not grassroots precinct committeemen that listen to the Charlie Kirk show, that go and knock doors, that show up at four more tour events, that go to Donald Trump rallies or that go to the flag waving events, none of that will matter if you don't apply it to the actual party and to the grassroots activism. So 2022 rolls around, it's going to be time to hitting doors. It's time to sign up to be a precinct committeeman to put your name on the ballot. To know every single neighbor in your neighborhood. If they've got a Trump flag, if they've got an NRA sticker, they've got an American flag out. As sad as it is to say, if you see somebody in your neighborhood that's flying an American flag, you should probably introduce yourself to that person and see if they're a conservative, if they're a Trump voter, Republican, anything right leaning, or make that relationship with them because more often not. They may have stayed home in 2018, they may have stayed home in 2020 and it's your opportunity and your job to actually go out, if you love this country, to go out and introduce yourself to that neighbor and get them registered to vote or to vote.

[A]

That's exactly right. Email us your questions everybody. Freedom. Charliekirk.com Someone just says right here like what can I do long term? And the answer is become a precinct committeeman. Right? Run for school board. Run for something. School board. Stop outsourcing your patriotism to other people.

[C]

That's the number one thing, Charlie. You just hit it and stop. I'm telling you right now.

[A]

Outsourcing the patriotism.

[C]

There's two places where people get their political start.

[D]

So this is don't outsource your patriotism.

[A]

I like that.

[C]

This is one thing that we, yeah, 100%. This is one thing that we profess all the time. At Turning Point usa there's two ways that people get involved with politics. The first, and many of you may not realize this will tell you we'll preach the Turning Point USA stuff. Here right now for you is student government. So Barack Obama, how did he get his political start? Well, he got involved with student government and student government relationship. He became the editor.

[A]

Harvard Law Review of the Harvard Law Review.

[C]

Right. Which is basically student government at Harvard. Hillary Clinton, how did Hillary Clinton get started? She became student body president at Wellesley College. She was a Goldwater girl. She was college Republican president at her, at her college. And that none of that worked. None of that worked. Guys. If you think that sending your kids to go work on presidential campaigns is gonna keep them conservative, you're wrong. If you think becoming student body or if you think becoming college Republicans president is gonna keep him conservative, you're wrong. Because Hillary Clinton, one of the most evil people on planet Earth, right. Ended up getting co opted by the left while she became student body president. That's one right. Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, all these people were all student body presidents. But the second piece is a school board. The left has recruited an entire generation.

[A]

Teacher union Funded.

[C]

That's it. I've been telling you right now. And guys, you cannot become, you cannot get elected school board if you do not have the help of the precinct committee man in the local Republican Party.

[A]

You're exactly right. And I was, I was hanging out with some people in Arizona over the weekend. Just local patriots. They watch all Newsmax now. 100% is very interesting. They're Newsmax people actually, by the way, I want to email us. I'm actually very interested. I'll just pick a couple people here. You keep it like. I'm just interested in where you guys are consuming your news outside of our podcast. Thank you. If you are. We're honored by that. But just how you're consuming your information freedom. Charliekirk.com I want to hear what you're seeing, what you're doing. Anyway, they said, well, what can I do to get involved? I said, are you a precinct committeeman? No. Who are your school board members? I don't know. Are you involved in your county board races? By the way, the one renaissance that we need to have is a. We need to take over every mayor position across the country. Mayors have so much power. I would love to be a mayor.

[D]

Oh, and your. And your county supervisors, I'm telling you. I mean, because most county supervisors races are all in the even years, but there's probably some races across the country where the county supervisor, they just certified your election. If you're in Georgia, if you have a county Supervisor up in 2020, if you're in Florida or if you're in any of these other states, you've got an opportunity.

[A]

Tyler, some people are asking, how can I verify my vote? Because people are saying, still in the Arizona website, it says their vote is not.

[C]

Guys, it's like trusting the fox in the hen house right now with whether or not your votes be verified. I mean, I wish I could tell you that going to the Secretary of State's website is 100% verifiable. The best thing you can do is pick up your phone and call your county recorder's office. If you call the county recorder, they can confirm over the phone, at least with you, whether or not your vote was counted. Again, you're just going on pure blind faith of that, right? I mean, how it should work. I believe there's a process where you can legally request the documentation. I think you can probably FOIA the records that show that prove that they do count your vote. That's really the only way. I mean, they could tell you anything that they want to tell you over the Internet. And this is actually really interesting what we found. So the elections day operations official for the Trump campaign started freaking out. And she was freaking out because here in Arizona, when you went to vote, you had to sign into a log, right? And then they give you a ballot and then you vote. And so people were afterwards were rightfully confused because they went online and it said that their vote had been canceled, which meant that their early ballot had been canceled and it didn't show that their vote had been tabulated. Well, it's because the system didn't even show that information. So they ended up updating that a week later. And so the election day officials started raising a red flag and going, wait, how did you guys know whether or not these people voted? And they're like, oh, well, we know because they were at the polling place. And we're like, well, so you're going off the logs and they're like, well, yeah, because the only way that they could be able to verify that is by the sign in logs, not by the actual ballot. So if you were a person that they were having this issue where if you were voting and you ran into a problem, they had an override button. And for some people that had the Sharpie, remember the Sharpie gate thing that was going on a few weeks ago, they were talking about that if you bleed through and they didn't take it, they put it into a separate pile. You don't actually know if that vote actually did get counted. Right. Because it went to a separate pile. So they only were giving you information based off of your sign in, not your actual vote. Which, again, that's also very sketchy. Right?

[A]

No doubt. Well, I have to think, I think Newsmax is winning our poll here with about 600 respondents, almost instantaneously. You guys emailed me. Freedomarliekirk.com Would you guys start watching like

[C]

a Trump network if there was a Trump network?

[A]

Better question. Well, that's a good question, too. Better question is, would they watch us if we did this every night as well? That would be something we need to ask us. Charliekirk.com support thank you guys for supporting us, Austin. Anything else?

[D]

Become a precinct committeeman if you have the time and you're able to before 2021 or in 2021, be a precinct committee. It might save your state.

[A]

And we are staying on top of this. We have a country to save. We'll be back here 12 Eastern tomorrow. God bless you guys. Also, listen to us on radio and

[D]

go to Georgia and come to Georgia.

[A]

Last thing. Last thing. Just do me a favor. Whether it's giveaway or not, it actually means a lot. If you take out your phone and you have this beautiful podcast app on an Apple device, It's purple. All of you guys have it. You go to Search Charlie Kirk show and you hit that subscribe button. It really does help us a lot. We're fighting for freedom, fighting for truth. Keep the pressure on. God bless you. See you tomorrow.