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My name is Charlie Kirk. I run the largest pro American student organization in the country, fighting for the future of our republic. My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth. If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're gonna end up miserable. But if the most important thing is doing good, you will end up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody. You gotta stop sending your kids to college. You should get married as young as possible and have as many kids as possible. Go start a Turning Point USA College chapter. Go start a Turning Point USA High School chapter. Go find out how your church can get involved. Sign up and become an activist. I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade. Most important decision I ever made in my life. And I encourage you to do the same. Here I am, Lord.
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Use me.
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Buckle up, everybody.
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Here we go.
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All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. I'm Andrew Colvett joined by Blake Neff in studio back here in Phoenix after an amazing, amazing evening in Ole Miss in Oxford, Mississippi. Truly one of the most amazing events that I have ever seen in person to be a part of. Blake, you. You held down the home fort here yesterday. Great show. I got lots of compliments from people. So well done. Well done. Also, we got. I want to do one of those dumb questions with.
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We need to have time. We should.
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A lot of people liked that. What we need to do is we need to have like a bunch of Turning Point kids just call in.
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Yeah.
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Like make it available to them and we'll just do like a dumb question.
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And we could turn the tables. Do an ask Gen Z where we try to figure out what.
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What is six, seven. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So, But I mean, just genuinely, I have not had my phone light up like that in a long time. And it was really amazing to be there. Erica Kirk knocked it out of the park with one of the most, I think, morally clear, just inspiring, courageous messages. I mean, we're sort of getting accustomed to her delivering these amazing messages.
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What a woman.
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What a woman. Blake's famous lied. I mean, listen, and then to have JD Come like, here's what blows me away. You do not see politicians do that. You do not see the Vice President of the United States, not in an election year. Just get up and take unsold fashioned.
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Everyone's so used to politicians being very. So many layers around it. But it's the Old fashioned way of doing things. You know, in the 1800s, you know, everyone's talking about the White House. You used to be able to just walk up and knock on the White House front door. You could ask for a meeting with the President. This is kind of a modern version of that. You know, the vice president is out there. You can get access to him, you can ask him questions.
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He was so raw. I mean, like they were asking about Israel, they were asking about what about your wife's not. She's brown, she's not a Christian.
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It's so gutsy to take questions like that.
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And he answered them with such grace and transparency. But like, but yet he was still authoritative. He was on the offense. He never let the question or the questioner put him on sort of like the back heel. He was forward pushing the entire time. It was a triumph. It really was.
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Charlie would be so proud because he believed in JD From a very early day. And we've seen him, he's always had so much promise, but we've also seen him just get better and better and better.
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Way better.
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Because he's been. And the way you should get better, which is just getting out there, fighting every day, getting the experience, getting the reps the same way Charlie did.
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No, totally Right. And so without further ado, let's play some of these clips. Let's start with Erica. Now you hear about the greatest generation. And Erica really wanted to make a point last night that she believes that Gen Z. And by the way, I believe this too. As a millennial, I believe this about you, Gen Z, that you are the courageous generation. My generation is and was sort of like, we're still getting over the Obama hangover or whatever. We got really excited about Obama in 2008, 2012. Gen Z has a chance to be the courageous generation. And she almost like in this prophetic, authoritative tone, she spoke right into the heart of Gen Z and said, you are the courageous generation. Play cut 262.
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You are the courageous generation. That's what you are. All of you, Gen Z, you are the courageous generation. Hear me when I say that. My husband believed that to his core. And that's why he went on campuses. That's why he was trying to reach you. You are the courageous generation. Own it. Make him proud.
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Yeah. Wow. I mean, you could hear her repeat, repeat, repeat. It was almost like she wanted to force their hearts to burst open and believe this thing that Charlie believed about them, that they are the courageous generation, that they really can be a turning point not to even Use the cliche, but in a real, genuine sense, we're seeing these signs of life from Gen Z that we have not seen in a long time that people didn't believe were possible. And Charlie, by sheer force of will and pure action, action, action, offense, offense, offense, went into these college campuses, changed the narrative. 15 billion social media views later helps get President Trump elected. They were part of that. They are part of the solution. I really believe that. And our job is to keep it going. Erica's job is to keep it going. J.D. vance's job is to keep it going and to earn it. By the way, Blake, you know this. Charlie's favorite word in the English language was earn. And Erica talked about that last night. I don't know if you saw that clip. If not, we can play it.
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Yeah, she said that a few times. I think, you know, he loved earn because, you know, you're not entitled to anything. He loves the idea of Charlie lived that out more than anyone. Everything is earned. Everything is worked for. And the most meaningful things are worked for.
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Yeah, absolutely. I mean, gosh, Charlie. It's funny because Charlie started off really, really good at a few things. He earned his way to becoming really good at a lot of things. Let's play 261.
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Charlie loved the word earn. Earn your voice. This is about your legacy. Each one of you in this room, everyone watching. When you earn your voice and you stand up for what is right, that is a part of your legacy, your family's legacy, just as much as it is part of Charlie's legacy. Don't forget that. Don't ever forget that. Because if there's one thing I've learned, especially being with Charlie for the past seven years, it's that the hope we're looking for is not found in Washington. It's not found in media. It's right here. All of you, this is. This is the hope.
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This is the hope. The kids in that room, I mean, just to put it in perspective here, by the way, and we are going to get to the JD Clips. But just to put it in perspective, there's about 27,000 students at Ole Miss. 14,000 of them registered for this event. 14,000. That arena held 10,000. So we had over half of the student body at Ole Miss registered to come to this event. We had 10,000 students. There was an additional 13,000. Hear me again. 13,000 adults that we had. Our team worked with the Ole Miss PR department to communicate with them and say, please, do not come. It's gonna be rainy and you can't get in. You're not gonna get in. Please don't come. They came anyways. See this visual of all the people lining up, and it was like miles long. And so it's raining, it's soggy. They still lined up. Even when we told them you couldn't come, they wanted to see if they'd get in the standby line. 10,000 people in that arena standing for the entire Erica Kirk speech. They did not sit for the entire speech that Erica gave. And then Erica, of course, brings in J.D. vance, the Vice President of the United States. Not an election year. Doesn't have to do this, but he takes the questions anyways. Blake, where should we go first?
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Yeah, there's so many different things. He answered some of them on pretty tough ones. How about we, you know, let's just do. For example, he took a question on. People have highlighted, you know, since immigration, H1B's immigration from India has become an issue. And he just confronted. You know, he is himself married to an Indian woman. So let's play a 260.
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I am married to the daughter of immigrants who came to the United states in the 1980s. I do believe in that. Some immigrants, many immigrants, do in fact, enrich the United States of America. But here's the problem we have got. We don't even know how many illegal aliens we have. We don't even know. The best guess is probably 25, 30 million people. I've heard estimates as high as 50 million. When something like that happens, you've got to allow your own society to cohere a little bit, to build a sense of common identity for all the newcomers to assimilate, the ones who are going to stay, to assimilate into American culture. Until you do that, you've gotta be careful about any additional immigration, in my view.
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Yeah, I mean, I love that he went right for it. There was actually Usha played a particularly interesting role in some of the questioning, and we can get to some of that. But what stood out to me is that he did not dodge, he did not evade. He answered the question that was asked. He didn't do the PR thing where he sort of pivoted to what he wanted to talk about.
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Exactly. Yeah.
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And I think that came through. People were blown away by that. And I would just say people sometimes think that we screen these questions, even when Charlie was up there. We don't screen them. We don't do anything. The only screen is.
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We had way too many occasionally awkward moments for it to have been screened.
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No, exactly. We don't screen any of them. We just say, if you disagree, come to the front of the line. That's it. That's the one rule. So I guess you do screen, but you screen for the hardest ones and the ones they try and trip you up with. And J.D. to his credit, he said it on this show when we were at the White House. He said, I want to do what Charlie did. I want to just take questions from the audience. That's how I'm going to honor Charlie. So God bless him for that. I just finished watching one of the most powerful new series I've seen in a long time, Truth and Treason, now streaming on Angel. It's the true story of Helmuth Hubiner, a teenager in Nazi Germany who dared to stand against one of the most terrifying regimes in history. Armed with nothing but a typewriter and the truth, he printed anti Nazi leaflets exposing the lies of the Third Reich. He knew the risks. He knew it could cost him everything. But he did it anyways. Because when you see tyranny, silence is not an option. This series is gut wrenching, yet deeply inspiring. Hellmuth's courage speaks just as powerfully today as it did then. Angel Studios, the same team behind the Sound of Freedom and Homestead, has done it again, telling stories that celebrate truth, faith and freedom.
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Visit angel.comcharlie to join the Angel Guild and stream Truth and Treason today. Be part of the movement that amplifies light. Here's the deal. So he gets this question from. It looks, I mean, I don't want to presume she could have been from Bangladesh. She could have been Pakistani. I think she was Indian. I'm not sure. Let's just say I think so. She asked a pretty. Like, you could see she was pretty upset. She basically framed the whole question to JD Being like, listen, you guys made us spend our youth, you made us spend our lives believing in the American dream, and now you're doing all this stuff to hurt us and harm us. She didn't define what that was. So J.D. van says, listen, we're not here to say that if the government made a deal with you and you're here legally, that we're here to take that away. But that doesn't mean that in the future we're just obligated to continue letting in millions and millions of people.
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It's no like, oh, we have to have forever, let in infinite people and.
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He went through the history of immigration, the ebbs and the flows, and how we used to do it and how assimilation used to be expected of immigrants. And then this girl, I presume she's a student at Ole Miss, she kept asking follow up, follow up questions and then she tries to get him on the fact that he's a Christian. Usha is not a Christian.
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Yeah.
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So this is going to be two clips.
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Two clips, two part, two part answer.
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Let's just play it consecutively, I think.
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Yeah, I think we should. 285 and then 286. You guys can play them back to back.
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Yes. My wife did not grow up Christian. I think it's fair to say that she grew up in a Hindu family, but not a particularly religious family in either direction. In fact, when I met my wife, we were both. I would consider, consider myself an agnostic or an atheist. And that's what I think she would have considered herself as.
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Well.
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You know, everybody has to come to their own arrangement here. The way that we've come to our arrangement is she's my best friend, we talk to each other about this stuff. So we decided to raise our kids Christian. Our two oldest kids who go to school, they go to a Christian School. Our 8 year old did his first communion about a year ago. That's the way that we have come to our arrangement. Now most Sundays, Usha will come with me to church. As I've told her and I've said publicly and I'll say now in front of 10,000 of my closest friends, do I hope eventually that she is somehow moved by the same thing that I was moved in by church? Yeah, I honestly, I do wish that because I believe in the Christian gospel and I hope eventually my wife comes to see it the same way.
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Blake, what, what's your takeaway?
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I mean, just when was the last time you saw a public figure just talk about their, you know, their families, their personal. It's very personal thing to answer a question about. And he really just plunged into it, gave pretty. Seems to me a very forthright answer.
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Seems to me too.
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We're so. We've gotten. It's almost shocking to see just because we've gotten so used to the, you know, the fake thing. And Nancy Pelosi goes up there and is like, as a devout Catholic, I know that, you know, freedom of choice is extremely important. That's our usual, that's the usual engagement we get on religion from people. It's this very, you know, affected piety. And that definitely didn't come off as affected piety. To me it was. It was gutsy. There are gonna be people, I imagine who like take issues with the answer one way or the other. But he just went at it, man.
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I totally agree. It's. What a personal. It's personal without 10,000 people watching you. If somebody was like, well you're.
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Yeah, that would be tough.
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Dating a non Christian. That'd be fun at a dinner. You know, for him to just do that in front of the world shows a tremendous amount of like self confidence and just self assuredness. And to your point, I mean I think he's growing and that has grown in that tremendously over the years. And we've watched it and it's really satisfying. I just wanna keep going with this gal because it seems like most of the articles I've seen from the left that are trying to attack this answer have been about this particular questioner. There was another questioner asked that was dating a foreign visa holder, visa holding student. And they're like, J.D. vance says he's gonna deport this kid's girlfriend. It was like not at all what he said. It was so funny. But. But this Charlie would have said something like that. No, I know, Totally. Charlie would be like, well, need to get deported anyways. Let's go ahead and play.254 this is talking about how the fact there's too many people, too many immigrants in the country and we don't owe it to. We actually owe it to Americans to take care of this generation, our people first and foremost. That's his job. And I thought it was a great answer.
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254 when you talk about too many immigrants here, what is.
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When did you guys decide that number. You are pushing out policies that hurt us. And these policies are not even solving the problems. These policies are just creating chaos.
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Okay, so. So again I. I'm gonna. I'm gonna. I'm gonna finish answering the question. There's too many people who want to come to the United States of America. And my job as vice president is not to look out for the interest of the whole world. It's to look out for the people of the United States.
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Now.
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Just. I mean, by the way the crowd erupted that you heard it in the clip but it would like if you were there. It was almost deafening. The moral clarity of saying we're gonna keep. We're gonna take care of our people first. So refreshing. So refreshing. And you actually heard it articulated in detail in the answers.
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Yeah. And man, it just feels great that think about you know, we're seeing what Charlie built, which is we could hold an event on a college campus and not, you know. You know, it's not at Hillsdale. It's not at Liberty. It's not at, you know, a handful of schools that were very used to being supportive of us. It's a big public university campus, and we could pack it full of people and have them just applaud at something like that.
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Yeah, don't tug on Superman's cape, Don't spit in the wind, and don't try to take a taxi or an Uber in Manhattan between Labor Day and Christmas. I had to jump out of my cab.
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Stranded out the public.
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Had to jump out of my cab. And I'm sitting in a hotel lobby with a big sign that says, no one may use this lobby unless you're a guest in the hotel. So could have some excitement, some Gotham City excitement coming up at the.
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Start. Yeah, exactly. Gotham City is where I want to get started, actually, because we have this clip. I saw it earlier this week, and I want to know if it's still. Still holding true. And I believe. Here we go. Yeah, it's 134. You were predicting that There was a little bit of oppo research coming down the pike. So let's play your clip.
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134 I inform Spidey senses we're going to see at least one more piece of pretty significant opposition research dropped in this race here at the end that will potentially shake things up on one of the candidates, of course. On Mondami, I think.
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Will it have a effect on.
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On the outcome?
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If it's what I'm told it is, it would happen. If so, Mark, that got a lot of eyeballs across the social media sphere. What is the update? Are we gonna see this pretty late in the game? That was basically the, you know, the consensus sort of opinion I was hearing. Why, if they had it, why didn't they release it before? What's the update?
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Well, it's a little complicated. First of all, you know, on two way we try to be transparent. Right. We're not old media where we know secret things so we don't tell our audience. And I was dealing with the source, who I trust over years of dealing. And this person said, we have something. We're not sure we're going to be able to put it out. We've got to square the circle and dot the eyes. But we're trying to. And then two things have come out since I said that, which if Mondame were being treated like a normal candidate, I think would have had a major impact on the race. But the New York Times in particular is covering him like they covered Barack Obama in 2008. It's all about rainbows and. And special ponies as opposed to scrutiny of the frontrunners. So one story was a video that never been out, as far as I could tell, of Madame comparing unfavorably the New York City police, who he might be the commander of in a few weeks with the Israeli army, the Israeli military. So that that came out. And then another thing came out. Since then his mother said that he was not an American, that he didn't really identify as an American. Both of those things. I think in a normal race, normal coverage would have been explosive. My source won't tell me if those are the things they were referring to. So there might still be something else. But it's possible that one of those two things, again, which should normally shake up a race, just have it because except for the New York Post and me, not many people are covering these things.
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Yeah, I mean, that's a pretty shocking thing to admit. I mean, I think it's something. And Blake, we can bring you in here. Blake, Neff is joining us here. You know, it's a pretty shocking thing actually for the mother of the mayoral candidate in New York City, the largest, greatest city apparently that we have, according to many. And for him to basically have a family member, his mother say that he doesn't even identify as American. Here's my thought though, on this, is that essentially you have about, what is it, 60 or is it, I might be inverting them.
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It might be a winning strategy in the New York electorate.
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Yeah, the New York electorate is essentially, let's say half, because it's, it's either 40 or 60%. I'm forgetting off the top of my head is foreign born. So this is not necessarily really that American of a city in its present form and demographics. I mean, that's. So maybe this is actually a net ad for him, Mark.
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It might be. And you know, the other thing might be a net add too. He basically said that the idf, the Israeli military, laces up the boots of the NYPD and suggests they're both kind of like jackbooted thugs. Again, there'd be some constituency for that. And certainly this is an unorthodox campaign. You know, I've been referring lately regarding Mondami to Donald Trump's famous I could shoot Avenue and I wouldn't lose support. What would have to come out about Mondami for the New York Times to read a front page story about the front runner? What would, what would he have to do? Because when they say, well, his mom said this about him when he was in college, he wasn't in college that long ago, he's only 34, so it's not like, you know, total ancient history. So like I said, my source has gone a little dark on me and there may still be something else, but it's possible that one of those two things were the things they put out and they had the perspective I did, which is you would think at this point in the campaign they would be concerned about their place in history for failing to scrutinize the front runner.
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Well, it just, it just strikes me that what could even, you know, we have early voting in New York and he has got, according to the polls, a pretty big lead. What even let alone New York Times writing about it. Just what could possibly actually close that gap in the amount of time that's remaining? And I kind of feel there might be nothing.
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Yeah, go ahead, Mark.
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Well, well, so two very prominent New York top Post columnists have come out and said, basically, Andrew Cuomo is a bum, but he's our bomb that they were voting for Cuomo, Cindy Adams and Michael Goodwin. And I have seen, again, it's anecdotal, but I have seen and heard from many people, Republicans who said, I'm just not going to waste my vote on the Republican nominee, Curtis Lewis. I'm going to vote for Cuomo. And the bandwagon effect is not nothing, right? If people think if they vote for Cuomo, they might be able to stop a socialist mayor who they don't want to see. I also think I'm predicting, I don't know this reporting wise, but I would say predicting I wouldn't be surprised if there were robocalls maybe from Donald Trump and others to Republicans over the weekend saying don't vote for Curtis, you know, vote for Cuomo because it's the only way to save the city. So if you look at the public opinion polls, you'd say the race is over. But it's hard to poll this electorate, right, because as you know, you're trying to pull regular voters, people who vote on a reliable basis. A lot of Mondami supporters wouldn't show up there. So I don't know which way that cuts. But I just know, I know there's some volatility here and Cuomo could get wiped out or it could be quite close and we're just not going to know till Tuesday.
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And if it is close or even if it's as long as Mamdani gets below 50% where there's the sense if they'd consolidated fully to beat him, I do feel like there's going to be a lot of questions asked. Why was there a failure to fully consolidate the field? And I've heard people complain that a lot. There's a lot of pressure that was put on Sliwa to drop out and Republicans to just get behind Cuomo. But I also heard people validly ask, okay, first of all, why is it ever okay to just say, oh, the entire Republican Party has to quit this race because Democrats couldn't get a better, you know, centrist candidate against Mamdani. But also, was anything seriously offered, like what was the was there an incentive given for Republicans or for Sliwa specifically, where you will get this concession, this is going to be a much more conservative Cuomo government than it would be otherwise in order to incentivize the creation of that unified anti Mamdani coalition.
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I've seen Cuomo now go on with Maria Bartiromo and Fox Business, things like that. And Sliwa has claimed, correct me if I'M wrong, Mark, here, but that somebody offered him $10 million to get out of the race. I haven't heard from a policy standpoint, the concessions, but it does seem like Cuomo is trying to present himself as more of a centrist. He's been hinting at the fact that there is a civil war on the within the Democrat Party and that he believes that the far left Democrats, Democrat socialists like Mamdani, are going to destroy the party. Maybe you have more insight for us, Mark.
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Well, look, Cuomo is not the most liberal member of the party by any means. He's got some very liberal positions on some social issues, but he's not a flaming liberal on economics and certainly not as compared to Mondami. So, you know, elections are bad choices. There's three people on the ballot who are trying to become mayor. One of them is not going to win is Curtis. And I get why he's staying in. He's having the time of his life. He was very good in both debates and, and he's enjoying it. So. And apparently that's worth more than 10 nights. So then if you're a voter, your choices are a guy who's a socialist and inexperienced and a guy who's deeply flawed and not particularly well liked, but is not a socialist and has a lot of experience. So it's a strange, it's a strange election. And Mondame has not been strong for the last three weeks. He was not strong in the second debate. He's not been strong in interviews. He did a big rally with Bernie Sanders and aoc. Karl Rove has a really interesting comment in the Wall Street Journal today about the speech he gave, basically accusing the city of being anti Muslim. And he's not closing on a super skillful mode where he's been most of the campaign. Who knows how voters will relate to that. But I think the key thing is Curtis's vote. If Curtis Lewis, who's the Republican nominee, if his vote total is below 10, I think Cuomo can win. But some recent polls have him closer to 20 than to 10.
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Yeah, well, I was about to say go up, throw up 274. This is Emerson College recent poll where it has Mamdani at 50%. And then if you add up Cuomo and Sliwa, you're just at 46% with 5% undecided. I suppose if you. All the undecideds broke for Cuomo and Sliwa got out, maybe they could combine the vote, consolidate the vote and actually pull ahead. But this is like you know what I perceive as going on when you're talking about this new tone from Mamdani in the closing weeks of the race here, Mark, is that it's sort of a mask off moment. He thinks he's got this thing in the bag and he's reverting to a deeper, more personal held beliefs that he's going full grievance politics about Islam and his family and 911 and all this stuff.
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That's the best analysis of the race I've heard from anybody in Arizona in a long time. Exactly right. The way you just said it's exactly right. And I've talked increasingly to people who are unsettled by the chances, by the prospects of his being there. Not even because of his issue positions. They just find his manner to be strange and we'll see if he does win if he makes an effort to unify the city. I do worry not in the short term less about his policies because I still think he's going to have trouble implementing a lot of this stuff he's proposing that a lot of people think is foolish. I just think there's going to be an explosion, explosive reaction from lots of constituents, particularly Jewish New Yorkers who are just truly emotionally unsettled. Mondami disadrangement syndrome this is Lane Schoenberger, chief investment officer and founding partner of Y Refi. It has been an honor and a privilege to partner with Turningpoint and for Charlie to endorse us. His endorsement means the world to us and we look forward to continuing our partnership with Turning Point for years to come. Now hear Charlie in his own words tell you about Yrefi.
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Mark Halperin, Two Way TV. You got to check him out there. And next up on the Megyn Kelly Network. Mark, I want to ask you about last night's event with J.D. vance and Erica Kirk. We got a two minute segment here before we welcome back national radio. You're one of the best out there about kind of feeling which way the wind is blowing and predicting where it's going. I got inundated like I've never been inundated by texts and friends and colleagues. People I haven't heard from saying how refreshing last night was for the conservative movement to see Erica and her courage and her grace and JD Just taking these questions unscripted. What do you make of it?
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The phenomenal event, and I've been saying to people today about it is forget their issue positions, forget what you think about Turning Point or what you think about the Trump administration. Those are just two extraordinary performers, skillful on their feet, emotional in a positive way, clever. Just the whole thing. And I keep warning these Democrats who are dismissive to JD Vance, this guy is maybe he's not in Trump's league or Bill Clinton's league as a political athlete, but he is damn good and getting better. And the two of them together was quite powerful. And I thought, I thought, but I said I'm two way this morning is everyone should watch that. If you haven't watched, go watch the whole thing because you'll learn a lot about what's going on in this country. You'll learn a lot about the political futures of those, of those, the potential political futures of those two. Marquis Bozones.
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Yeah, I think it's, you know, something we commented on before you joined us, Mark, was just how much, I mean, we saw JD early and he was good and we and Charlie saw it early and he predicted just how good he was going to be. But we've seen JD Grow leaps and bounds. And I would even say since Charlie's assassination, you've seen JD Blossom in this whole new way with authority and just, just a strength of moral clarity. I mean, it's, I don't think we've seen the final evolution of just where he's gonna land on this because every time he speaks, it's like it's new, it's more powerful, it's better. Blake gonna throw it to you. You got a question?
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Yeah. So, Mark, a big thing that's been a topic on the right, especially online, but also in right wing publications, is this Arctic Frost investigation that the FBI conducted under the Biden administration. And now we're getting more details about it, which it's showing. You know, the Biden administration subpoenaed people, it monitored phones. It was looking into a lot of these groups. Tyler Boyd, including our friend Tyler. And, you know, we were discussing how the, you know, the press is. Will the New York Times cover Mamdani? Well, now we have a lot of conservatives are aggrieved where they're saying the major press is not covering Arctic Frost in any way. There's no articles about it, and they believe it should be a much bigger issue. Now, you're good at offering a lot of perspective on these sorts of things. So do you believe this is something where they have a good grievance, or do you believe this is something where they're fixating on something and blowing it up to more than it really is?
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Well, I didn't cover it this morning on the morning meeting, and I've heard from many people as well. Look, this needs to be looked into. Special counsels are really dangerous to liberty because their whole mandate, their whole reason to be is to investigate people and indict people. And so we always have to worry, particularly now when it involves members of Congress because that's a co. Equal branch and we don't want any executive branch going after members of Congress. The subpoena power and the threat of prosecution or prosecution. So Those are dangers 101 that we need to look at in this case. I urge everybody to wait a little bit more for the facts. When they say people were investigated or spied on, that that's those fancy words for they were investigated under, under a lawful mandate by the independent counsel. So the fact that they looked at the phone metadata on its face is not. It's not a violation of constitutional rights if it's. If it was authorized and seems to have been. So I'm all for the press looking at it. Congress should look at it. There needs to be full disclosure. But people shouldn't jump on the word spying to imbue it with something it doesn't necessarily mean.
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Well, and it's, you know, you've got Senator Cruz calling for the House to impeach Judge Boasberg, who is involved in the authorization of this. I would call it spying, but, you know, whatever the word we want to use. But because it was authorized, you're. You make a good point. It does fall within the legal parameters of our system. And so we've gotta wait for the facts to come in. But was the case corrupted? Was there Political bias that was injected to it. I mean, all those stuff, we need to get to the bottom of it. We need to know, because here's the thing. Tyler Boyer has been targeted, harassed, prosecuted because of what happened in the aftermath of 2020. And they used that to spy on Turning Point USA, Turning Point Action. So, yeah, we got a dog in this fight, Mark. So we're probably gonna be a little more fiery than you. And I understand the difference. I want to finish our conversation. We got about two minutes left here, Mark, again, seeing which way the winds are blowing. We had Rich Barris, people's pundit, and he's done some polling on this that shows that people are fatigued with international foreign policy. All the Israel talk, all the Russia talk. And while Trump's putting up wins, peace deals, that sort of thing, he was meeting with XI yesterday. So he's making good progress. But people want to focus on domestic issues. We're starting to see these layoffs with AI. The entry level jobs seem to be drying up to some extent. It's going to impact Gen Z. Which way are the winds blowing, Mark, how is Trump doing? Where are we going? Make sense of it. 30,000 foot view. Minute and a half to you, Mark.
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Well, the economy is often talked about. It's a political issue. But it's more than that, of course. First and foremost, it's about the real lives of real people. What's the Trump theory of the case in the economy? Less regulation, more energy production and distribution, lower prices and using tariffs to try to get America a stronger place in the world. These are his ideas. It's quite clear what this centerpiece is. Will it work? I think voters will want to see it working. Maybe not perfect in perfection, but will it work by the midterm elections, when Republicans around the country are going to want to run on the Trump dance? Economic record that matters most. Not just because, you know, pollsters say voters care about the economy. That's the real lives of real people, but much less remote than what's happening in Gaza or what's happening in Ukraine. So I think there's a theory of the case there. We have to see if it works. We've had presidents who are economically successful and ones who weren't. And I think it hangs in the balance now for Scott Bassett, the vice president and the president, are they going to be an economically successful policies or not?
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Well, you know, what we haven't brought up here, Mark, which strikes me is the government shutdown. We're on day 30 of it. It does have an economic impact, but it also has the snap impact. There's a lot of headwinds here, plus this AI revolution that's drying up a lot of these entry level jobs. And I happen to agree with President Trump's theory of the case. But this could be an interesting confluence of just bad timing with some of the, you know, the AI boom. And I do believe I'm a glass half full guy. I do think eventually these things are going to shake themselves out in the mix and we're going to have new industries that pop up, new jobs that emerge. But in the short term, it could be painful. So, you know, we're going to see how all this goes. Mark Halperin, thank you, my friend.
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Good to see you guys. Thank you for having me on. Good to see you both.
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