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Hey, everybody. Charlie Kirk here live from the Bitcoin.com studio, a monster episode of the Charlie Kirk Show. Zelenskyy visits the White House. We have Eric Schmidt. People are giving their life to Jesus. We talk about Lamar Jackson, we talk about Putin. It is a very diverse episode. I think you'll really enjoy it. Email US as always, freedomarliekirk.com and subscribe to our podcast. That is the Charlie Kirk show podcast page. Get involved with TurningPoint USA@tpusa.com that is tpusa.com Buckle up, everybody. Here we go. Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
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Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.
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I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
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Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.
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I want to thank Charlie. He's an incredible guy, his spirit, his love of this country. He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point usa.
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We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives. And we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country. That's why we are here. Joining us now is Ambassador Matthew Whitaker, U.S. ambassador to NATO. Thank you so much, my friend, for making the time. You have a very difficult job and so you are navigating it brilliantly and really honoring the President's directive in NATO. Ambassador Whitaker, give us an update of how the President is thinking about this. And will Ukraine be able to join NATO?
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Yeah, well, first of all, Charlie, it's good to see you again. Great to be on your show. You know, first, I think President Trump's been very clear that there currently is no path for Ukraine to join NATO. And it's not just a matter of snapping your fingers either on who joins NATO. There's 32 members. Everything we do is done by a unanimous decision. And so right now there's just, there's, there's not 32 people at the table that would vote for Ascension and that would assume that Ukraine could even qualify for membership. That would include some real rigorous anti corruption efforts that I'm not certain that they would reach right now and many other steps. But remember, the one thing that we need to understand about Ukraine is right now they're the second largest European army. That's, that's actually the largest European army because Turkey, who is in NATO, is the largest army. And so Ukraine does bring some advantages in their defense industrial base is by far the most productive currently. And so Europe, I'm encouraging all my European allies and friends to buy from the Ukrainians. Once this peace is reached by President Trump, because they're going to need that hard currency to rebuild their economy. But they, they have a lot of things to improve before it would ever be on the table. But right now, you know, President Trump has been very clear that they're not in line and not going to be a member of NATO. But ultimately, that's up to the 32 allies.
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So Secretary of State Marco Rubio said that there's talk about Vladimir Putin being open to security guarantees for Ukraine in return for not being in NATO. Would those guarantees include U.S. troops on the border of Russia and Ukraine?
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I would be surprised. Ultimately, that's up to President Trump, who's mediating, as you know, this war and trying to bring it to a truce and hopefully an enduring peace, because, as he says, the killing and the slaughter need to end. It's a complete meat grinder where tens of thousands of soldiers every single week are dying on the battlefield, together with the collateral damage to property and to civilians. And so it is. It needs to end. President Trump is trying to do everything he can, obviously, to end this war. But at the same time, you know, Secretary Rubio, when talk about security guarantees, I think any boots on the ground, any security force is the coalition of the willing, which is currently being led by the Germans, the French, and the British. And so I don't think that there would be American boots on the ground, certainly not in any kind of significant kind of way. There might be some command and control. There might be some other things that only the U.S. can bring to that. It would be outside of NATO, Charlie. I think that's the other thing we got to make sure, because people are using this article 5 like guarantee. And I think that's very dangerous when you talk about, you know, article five like guarantees, because that makes people think that NATO's involved. NATO won't be involved in any security guarantees. In fact, they will be specifically out of it because, again, there wouldn't be 32 allies that would agree to that framework.
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Yeah, I'll just, I'll be honest. The perspective of my audience and for me is we don't want America involved at all. We think this is long past exhausted and tired. And I think the president's perspective has been amazing, which is defy the national security establishment and the mainstream media and, and sit down and work this thing out. So what can we expect today? Let me tell you where our perspective is. And you're the ambassador to NATO, and so you have to be very diplomatic, and you got a tough job and you're doing a great job. But let me tell you my thoughts and you can navigate however you want. This looks as if this is a full court press by European leaders that want to continue this land and kinetic war in Ukraine and are very mad that President Trump might cut a deal with Vladimir Putin because for the European Union, they view this as existential. You got Giorgio Moroni, you have the Germans, you have all the big players of Europe that are in the White House right now that are likely trying to and Keir Starmer that are trying to paint a completely different picture and potentially continue this war. You could almost say the European leaders are here to chaperone Zelenskyy through this entire thing in case there would be another blowup. And so tell us about the meeting and then I'll have a follow up question. What's going on today? And can you give our audience some hope that America won't be involved and this thing can be ended?
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Well, first of all, Charlie, I want to on the beginning premise, like you, because we were running into each other since 2019, there's been nobody like you and I and so many others, Cash Patel, that were out there supporting the president, including in 2021 when there weren't a lot of people supporting President Trump. And so, you know, I have met a lot of your listeners and viewers. You know, I, you know, I have spent a lot of time with them, gone to, you know, your events, so many other events in the movement. And so I have, like you, as a sense of what, you know, the base and what President Trump supporters expect. I don't think, you know, this is my perspective as the U.S. ambassador to NATO. I don't see that Europe wants to continue, continue its war. And one of the great things that President Trump did and that I'm involved in is the selling of U.S. equipment to our European allies. So they're paying for it and then they can supply it to Ukraine. That changed the entire dynamic where under Joe Biden, we were just sending American equipment and munitions to Ukraine with no payments, no promises. And I think, you know, President Trump dramatically changed that situation. And so the bearing of European security is now on the shoulders of European taxpayers. And, you know, President Trump got that right. And I was, I was proud to stand with him shoulder to shoulder and work on that. And that's part of the, what we agreed to at the Hague a couple of months ago. And the 5%, you know, of, of, of, of European security, it's going to, it's going to make a huge difference. And on the war in Ukraine, you're right. I mean, this is ultimately, it is a European's interest. It doesn't. Secretary Rubio, I think, said it really well yesterday. You know, this. This is not America's war. This isn't Donald Trump's war. You know, he would never happened if he had been in office in 2022. And so, you know, a lot of this is at the feet of Joe Biden. Now, that doesn't mean that as a peacemaker, Donald Trump can't come in here having, you know, already settled about six other conflicts, come in here and try to mediate this and get to a position where. Where the killing and the fighting ends. But, you know, ultimately, those decisions are gonna have to be made by the Ukrainians and the Russians because they are the ones that are fighting this war, and they're gonna have to come to some agreement. And I think President Trump's just trying to see if there's a set of circumstances where he can bring this to an end.
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You are correct. It is not our war. But here is the fear is it can quickly become our war because we're funding it. We'll send armaments, and before you know it, we're involved in another quagmire. I mean, Joe Biden spent over $200 billion in this proxy conflict with Russia. And so Ukraine's position is a little unclear. Some European leaders are saying you can't give any of the land back to Russia even though Russia has won it. Can you comment on the land here? Because the land component of this is major. Russia took Crimea. They shouldn't have invaded. It was wrong that they did it. Immoral action by the hands of Vladimir Putin. But they did win significant gains in Ukraine. How is the land factoring in all this? Cause security guarantees, Article 5, we got NATO off the table. Security guarantees is very, very murky. Because you can get. Basically, the way we look at it is like, okay, you'll get the spirit of NATO without NATO. So not thrilled about that. But what about the land? I mean, there's a lot of clamoring about this. Please, Ambassador Whitaker.
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Yeah. Well, Charlie, first of all, there is a lot of clamoring. And to some extent right now, what's going to happen soon here at the White House is the conversation with the Europeans and with President Zelensky as to what, what Putin put on the table in Alaska, why President Trump determined that we could take a step forward in those negotiations and in trying to get to a peace deal. But, you know, I think A lot of it is yet to be determined. I think even, you know, we talk about security guarantees. I think there's a lot of meat that needs to be put on those bones. I just don't think that there is a complete agreement among the coalition of the willing. You know, President Trump has said that the US Would be involved. I don't think that means American troops in Ukraine. Now, obviously they would love that, especially if there is an attack on one, as an attack on all kind of a treaty or an agreement. But, you know, right now, I think President Trump has earned the space to try to negotiate this.
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I agree.
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And he's mediating it, Charlie, as you know. And so mediators oftentimes see how far people can come, try to get their best and final and try to bring both parties to a deal that's a deal. It's not a great deal for either side, but ultimately gets the killing.
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I think that's right. So, look, he. He more than earned everybody's confidence after the Iran, Israel masterclass. I mean, that that's. And so we just gotta let the master do his thing. The fear that we have is all these other European actors that are gonna be lying to President Trump along the way. I know that you gotta deal with them, but they got a whole separate agenda. And President Trump had a truth social about this earlier. He said, I'm convinced if Russia completely surrendered and gave up all the land, that the fake news media and their Democrat partners would say this would be a humiliating day for President Donald Trump. And so just in closing here, Ambassador Whitaker, can you just give audience some faith and confidence that America first will be resolutely defended, that we are gonna have a commitment to this realignment of foreign policy while also in the pursuit of peace. Because our audience is a little bit uneasy, not at President Trump, not at you, but at the European actors that are trying to keep this thing unnecessarily going. Final thoughts, Ambassador Whitaker?
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My final thoughts, Charlie, are quite frankly, I think, you know, President Trump represents the America first movement. I'm with him and have been there from the beginning, as you know. And so, you know, we are fighting hard every single day for America first and for a resolution of this war. And I would not listen to a lot of the noise that you hear from the mainstream media and a lot of, you know, kind of the chatter that's coming out of Europe because again, that's not the deal that President Trump's going to cut. He's just going to see if he can get a deal done. That is in the interest of the American people. Because, again, this is not his war. It's not America's war. You know, we're not fighting this war. And so ultimately, I think President Trump, like I mentioned, and I know you agree, has earned our trust to try to land this plane if it can be landed.
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He has. And in their discussions, just reiterate it, no US Troops. That is a. That is a very serious salvo here. That is the last thing that we need. Thank you so much, Ambassador Whitaker. Keep up the great work. You have quite a challenge ahead of you. Thank you.
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Good to see you again.
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Yes, Peter, good.
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Thank you, President Trump. So, President Zelensky, you say in a post on X today, Russia must end this war, which it itself started. President Trump, you say President Zelensky of Ukraine can end the war with Russia almost immediately if he wants to, which isn't.
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I think that's true. I think they'll. We're going to have a meeting. I think if everything works out well today, we'll have a try lat. And I think there will be a reasonable chance of ending the war when we do that.
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First of all, I think President Trump just likes saying try lat, because that's like the coolest thing ever. He just kind of throws it in there. Yeah, well, the trilat, I love it. He means a trilateral meeting, which by the way, if you were in that seat, you'd be saying, yeah, we'll have a tri lat. We'll see if we can have a tri lat. This kind of, kind of rolls off the tongue. What would a trilateral meeting be? President Trump, Zelensky, Putin, where would it be? It's a good question. Maybe you go back to Alaska, maybe you go to Zurich, maybe you go to the Middle east, or maybe you just, you go to Guam, just kind of say, hey, guys, frequent flyer miles. We're just going to go all the way down to the Northern Mariana Islands. All kidding aside, a trilateral meeting is how this thing would end. That would, by the way, now we're talking history in a way that President Trump would be in the history books to end this murderous slaughter. And it's very interesting. Both Putin and Zelensky are saying this war has to end. Who has the better cards? Play cut 349. Then welcome Jack posobic. 349.
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And as you met with Putin on.
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Friday, today you've got President Zelensky here. As you listen to Russia and Ukraine, which side Biden has the better cards?
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Well, I don't want to say that I'm just going to. I'm just here to be. Look, this isn't my war. This is Joe Biden's war, he's the one that had a lot to do with this happening. And we want to get it ended and we want it to end good for everybody. We want it to end good. The people of Ukraine have suffered incredibly.
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Peace is the prize. Joining us now is Jack Posobic, live from the White House. Jack, great to see you. What is the breaking news? The energy, the vibe. The European delegation is there alongside Zelensky. Bring us into the context right there on White House grounds.
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Well, Charlie, I'm here. Got to see President Trump, just meet President Zelensky, bring him there into the Oval Office, talking with officials all morning about this. And certainly the stakes are very high, but I definitely felt a looseness in, you know, just sort of the conversations I was having with a number of White House officials here, people understanding that, look, the president is very clear on what he wants. His goals are America's goals. America's goals are for the war to end. Obviously, there's going to be these questions to go back and forth between the Russians, between the Ukrainians, regarding on contact line and various issues of the oblast and borders, this and that. But when it came to the president, it seemed as though his red lines were set and that he was going to be delivering that message to Zelensky and to the European leaders today. Although we already know that he's held a series of phone calls with them throughout the entire weekend, including what we were told a tough phone call on Air Force One, one that even after we landed on Saturday morning, Charlie, President Trump stayed there on the plane. Caroline Levitt came back to us and we said, hey, we landed. What's going on? Are we, are we heading out? They said President Trump is still on the phone. He's still working. It's 2:30 in the morning. This guy has not stopped because he is explaining to them what the deal is going to be and getting their side of the picture. So this is something that the president has really been working on all weekend. And now I think we're getting close to potentially to an agreement here from the European side as well as the Ukrainian side. But of course, time will tell. And of course, President Trump saying as well that the goal for later today is a press conference between himself, Ursula Von der Leyen, and President Zelensky.
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Yeah. As you've mentioned before, Jack, you flew with the president from Joint Base Andrews all the way to Anchorage and back. What was a component of that meeting that you think the media really missed, something about what happened in Anchorage that you wish would have been covered better, that would have further contextualized and got us closer to some approximation of the truth of what happened in Anchorage.
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Well, Charlie, I think something that the Russian side was able to discuss with the president, and this has come out a little bit in media look at some of what Axios has been writing over the time, is that really that the Russians statements have not changed as much in terms of their root causes, but the idea that they are willing to, at this point, to pull back on some of their claims, make concessions in places like Zaporizhzhia and Kherson, some of these regions where the fighting is still going on, and the fact that they were at least willing to sit down, while they do currently have the upper hand militarily here, is absolutely huge. Look, you don't see this go back to World War II. You didn't see the two sides holding meetings during the war or things like this. And so the entire gravity of that moment, having a little bit of decorum, having a little bit of respect for the moment, is something that I talked about. I certainly tried to while I was there. I wish that other members of the media had done as well, because there's a lot of very sensitive issues that were being talked about. And then plus, when Putin brought up the shared sacrifice of Russians and Americans in World War II, then visited that military cemetery afterwards, going and laying the wreath, meeting with members of the Russian Orthodox Church in Alaska, which has a very strong foothold because of the history. There's. He's really asking, I think, and the Russians are really offering, not like Hillary Clinton said years ago, but an actual potential reset between Russia and the West.
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And that is. That will require President Trump to kind of steamroll the European elite, if you will. It's going to require him to kind of push back on this. What do you have to say? So we've been told that there is no security, there's no NATO security guarantees. It's kind of like Diet NATO. The land is going to be the sticking point. Let's go to 322, though. Let's go to 322, please. Let's play that.
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Let's go. Come on, guys, let's go.
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Thank you, Press.
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Thank you, Press. They're just screaming and yammering at Vladimir Putin. What was this all about?
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I mean, Charlie, I was standing right there when it was happening, you know, and maybe it's the way I was raised, maybe it's having been an officer in the Navy. But, you know, when you get brought in front of Two commander in chiefs of their respective countries. You know, I was always told that you, you know, you wait till you're called on before you start asking questions or maybe you raise your hand, something like that. We get in, they start yelling things, why are you killing children? Why are you, when are you going to stop the killing? I just felt that it was inappropriate. I thought it was inappropriate for the moment. I thought it was inappropriate and an absolute breach of decorum. I mean, this was a very special diplomatic meeting between the presidents of two respective nations that are certainly on opposite sides of the war. Now, President Trump, of course, didn't start this war, but he's working very hard to complete it. That's why people are saying, why was he talking with him? Why did he give him the ride in the Beast? Why did he have these conversations? Clearly, as I reported at the time, it looked like they were speaking in English. And it's because he's working hard for peace and while also at the same time highlighting and I posted the video that's now been seen around the world with the, the B2 bomber and Putin's double take as it flies over his head. So he's doing an incredible job on behalf of the American people to hold to his, hold to his promises during the campaign and actually try to deliver a real peace for Ukraine, which is a place I've visited multiple times since this war has begun. It is a war torn country and you'd think that the rest of the media would try to at least show a little bit of respect for everything that's going on between then and now.
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Finally, Jack, what would you say is the biggest sticking point that you are most worried about? Like a sticking point that could get in the way of this deal, that could blow it up and that could keep this war going. What would you say is the element, the little on the sleeper component, if you will? Jack Posobic?
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Well, Charlie, one of the biggest pieces that I think a lot of people are missing on and sleeping on is the rebuilding effort. Is Ukraine going to ask for reparations? Is blackrock going to come in, who are getting the deals on? This is something I discussed with Secretary Besson quite extensively while he and I traveled to Kiev back in February. And Besson had actually said at one point that he does not want China to be getting involved, that he doesn't want any country that was a party to this war getting involved in the rebuilding, although we've heard things from the Ukrainian side that they may want China to come in. So the rebuilding effort, I think is going to be a huge and really unfocused on portion to all of this.
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Jack Posobic, thank you. Will you be here all day? Give the audience some update of your plans because you've really been on this, please.
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Well, I will be here all day. Human Events Daily will be here live from the White House grounds and I'll be taking if we make it to the press conference, I'll be there.
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President Trump just said, I don't think you need a ceasefire. We can work a deal where we're working on a peace deal while they're fighting. He also said, quote, president Trump will speak to Vladimir Putin after this meeting. He does not need to be doing this. President Trump does not need to be doing this. I think President Trump cares about the humanity of every single human being made in the image of God. And also he knows that this will be an unbelievable legacy builder the likes of which is hard to grasp. Jack Posobic, thank you so much.
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Blessed are the peacemakers.
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Yeah, so first things I want to make sure because I think that I've watched social media and a lot of the regular media talking about this for everybody. This war began in 2014 while President Obama was the President of the United States of America. And in fact the timeframe was February of 2014, right after the Sochi Olympics. So this war has been going on a long, long time and it is just worn out. Europe, it's worn out, certainly the Russians, I mean, you know, we can go into the details but like you say, Charlie, that's number one. During that period of time, Russia, this is in 2014 while Obama was the president. During that time, Russia attacked two of the eastern provinces, Donbass as they call them, of Ukraine, and they also attacked Crimea. And since the, About March of 2014, they've held those, those that land. So you mentioned land. Right. The sense, you know, when, when Trump comes in, then Trump basically puts everything in a hold and, and Putin basically kept everything as status quo. And there was a lot of back and forth going on. And then when Biden comes back in, the war then began to rage in earnest. And this is where the reason why it raged in earnest because the Biden administration really threw fuel on the fire of, of this Ukrainian war by, by basically funding it to the tune of, I mean the congressional numbers are around 170 billion. The actual numbers we think are closer to 500 billion. So I mean, you know, if you look at it from the interests of Russia. What Russia wants is no further NATO expansion. And now I understand that Russia would consider some sort of, of NATO security guarantees for Ukraine, but not Ukraine joining NATO. You know, so there's some, there's some wiggle room right there based on the conversation that Trump had with, with, with Putin this past weekend, right this past Friday at the Alaska summit. The security guarantees and, and NATO. You know, I, I think what people need to understand and this is again, these are, these are lessons that we have forgotten. NATO is a defensive, chartered military organization. And that means if one is attacked that, you know, then, then all others are attacked and then something has to happen. It was designed to protect itself from, principally Europe, from the former Soviet Union. It is not an offensive organization. It is not an organization that was designed to do offensive things. In, in 1994, there was an agreement that said there would be no further NATO expansion. The United States signed off on it. Russia signed off on it at that time. Gorbachev, the French signed off on it and the Germans also signed off on it and Great Britain signed off on it since that time. And at the time of that signature where there was about, you know, roughly, let's just say 20 nations that were part of NATO since that time, where we said there would be no further NATO expansion on the Russian frontiers, there's like another 25 countries that have joined NATO. And, and so now you have this expansion east against the Russian frontier. So, you know, that's kind of where, and I'm looking at it from the perspective of Russia, not the perspective of NATO or the perspective of the United States, because I think that we tend to forget, we must look at these, these types of gives and takes from the perspective of those who we are about to sit down with. Right? I also think in terms of Trump, Trump looking at, you got a picture of Trump and Zelensky up there now, you know, what are the, what are in the best interests of the people of Ukraine? Right? The people of Ukraine are worn out and we are now tapping into 60 year olds to fight, you know, in, in the, in the military, for the Ukrainian military. The, the war itself from a loser and winner perspective. And I've written about this and people can go look at what I've written about in the last week, that the war itself is a, is a lost war. So Ukraine has lost this war. Ukraine has lost terrain. They have lost significant prestige. And we also know, we also know this, and we know this for a fact, Charlie, that Ukraine is also filled with Corruption. We have seen the corruption in the pre, in the previous Biden administration in many ways. We've seen it with human trafficking, with weapons trafficking, with, with the bio labs that are in Ukraine. I mean, these are things that matter and they matter in a deep, deep way with the other side, meaning the Russian side. Right. We also have on the frontier on the border of Russia, we have Ukraine asking to be a member of NATO. And you have these handlers, these handlers of Zelensky that are there now, the Russian, the Russian, you know, parents that you call them, they're really handlers for Zelensky that are going to try to convince Trump that we've got a, we've got to defeat Russia. We've got a, we've got to, you know, have Ukraine join NATO. Well, that would be like saying, you know, to Mexico or to Canada or in this case the Cuban Missile Crisis, which we tend to forget in our history lessons. Right. We almost went to nuclear war over the Cuban Missile Crisis because Russia at the time wanted to put weapons into Cuba.
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But let me ask you, and that ties in. Do you think there is a scenario we can end the war without us giving security guarantees?
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Yes, I absolutely do. And it's not going to be, it's not going to be a pretty ending here. So in 2022, those Eastern donbasses, those eastern provinces, eastern states, if you will, for those that don't understand provinces and Donbasses, those eastern states of Ukraine voted, they voted which direction that they wanted to go. And in 2022, they voted to be aligned with Russia because the majority of the, the majority of them are Russian speakers. Anyways. Now the interesting part about this is Crimea, because Crimea, it may be, there may be some negotiating space there where we allow a portion of Crimea to be used by the, the, the black, what's called the Black Sea Fleet of, of the Russian Federation, right? So Russian Navy has access. You can see the Sea of Azov, you can see Black Sea. I mean, that's a great map right there because that's an area of serious contention. But I actually think that we can use that as a, almost as a trade zone, if you will, vis a vis, like the Hong Kong issue, but now Hong Kong, you know, even though it's going back to China, there was a long period of time, I think it was like, I think it was either 30 or 60 years where it was a trade zone. So there's some smart ways to, to, to slice this thing, you know, up where Ukraine, you know, sees and, and the Ukrainian people achieve some modicum of peace, there's going to have to be some zone of separation. And this is not a, a ceasefire. Ceasefires never last. This has to be a legitimate long term peace agreement where that zone between the Russian borders and, and these, these eastern provinces and Crimea, there has to be some sort of agreements within there that allow the people that live in there to make decisions for themselves. And what we have learned in 2022 is those people decided that they wanted to be aligned with Russia. And I think that Trump has been really an extraordinary in terms of wanting to sit down and to meet with Putin, to meet with Zelensky and to continue this dialogue, because we, we should never back a nuclear power into a corner. I mean, one of the things that I want your audience to understand is that, you know, despite what they think about and what, what has, what the media has described Russia to be there. There was a great poll that was done about a year ago where 80% of the Russian people want to have a stronger relationship with the people of the United States of America. And I think Trump has not been able to, and this goes back to his first term. He has not been able to really deal with Russia on a, in a, you know, sort of in an equal footing, certainly geopolitically, because of the Russiagate, you know, situation that happened during his first term. And we've learned a lot about that. I mean, you know, so what Trump is trying to do is he's trying to be really magnanimous here. He's really trying to rise above it all. And he's saying, hey, look, Russia is a, one of the great powers on the planet. They're certainly one of the top. In fact, they are the top nuclear power on the planet. They have more nuclear capabilities than we do. And what we're trying to do is we're trying to stop the killing. That's sort of, you know, used to use Trump's phrase. But we cannot think that we are going to defeat Russia, we're going to defeat Putin, we're going to what regime change? Russia? I mean, this is a large, large country. You know, it's one of the largest geographically on the planet, 11 time zones. And NATO is not a cohesive organization right now. There's a lot of dis. Disagreements going on inside of NATO there. There are people that are members of NATO that are not in agreement with the direction that this war is going. The, and the bigger picture, the bigger strategic view, Charlie, is that the war is not going well for Ukraine. When you look at the comparison of forces. When you look at the comparison of economies, when you look at the comparison of the alignments geopolitically, the, the big winner here is not Russia. The big winner here, and it's not, it's not Ukraine. The big winner here is China. And I keep going back to that because when we, when we made agreements back in 1990, and I'll tell you, James Baker, I got, I, I wrote it down here, Secretary of State James Baker promised in 1990, and they signed an agreement to this effect that NATO would not move, quote, not one inch eastward. West German Foreign Minister at the time, Hans Dietrich Gentler, he repeated the assurances. The four leaders at the time in that period of, of our history, recent history, all agreed to that. And yet here we are talking about NATO on the border of, of Ukraine. Now, when I, when I look at the, the makeup of Russia, and again, for your audience, just to give a look, a little class here, because I think people need to understand this. Russia has a population of about 140 million. You know, they're almost one to one men and male and female. I mean, Russia is essentially a declining population, although they've maintained a strong military force. And in, certainly they're one of the, they are the top nuclear weapon, nuclear power on the planet. We have talked about nuclear weapons. The Biden administration talked about them. President Trump recently talked about the realignment of our nuclear submarine forces. We should not be talking about nuclear capabilities like this at all because that is too dangerous. If this war continues, if this war continues, if there's not success coming out of this meeting and then going back to where Trump probably brings Zelensky and Putin together. And I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I believe that he wants to do this very soon to end this thing, to come up with a legitimate, not a ceasefire, but a peace agreement, a long term peace agreement where it's not going to be one of these. Everybody wins. There's going to be some winners and there's going to be some losers. The losers right now, to me, the biggest, the biggest one is really President Zelensky, because President Zelensky, most people don't know, Charlie, President Zelensky has declared martial law in his country. He declared martial law in his country. And the reason why he declared martial law is because he didn't want to stand for another election because he would have probably lost. And so he declared martial law. And he's essentially, they're under a state of, you know, internal siege, if you will, but they're under a state of martial law inside of. Of Ukraine right now. And that's because the guy doesn't want to hold an election. I think if they held an election, he would be out. You would have somebody going in there. And there's a couple of members of the RADA that have, that, you know, that have aspirations to be president of Ukraine. And they also have great ideas about stopping the war and coming to a peace agreement because they know that they cannot continue with this war. One of the things that Russia does not want to do and Russia cannot do, they cannot militarily do it other than go on a nuclear exchange. Russia has no ability, no military capability like they used to when they were the Warsaw Pact to cross the plains of Europe and seize all, nor do.
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They have either the ambition or the capacity to govern all those areas.
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Exactly, exactly. And I think people need to understand that you have the neocons, you have these people that are pushing us to war with Russia. And the only, the only outcome, Charlie, is going to be a potential nuclear conflict because Russia will not allow itself to be put into a position, to be backed into a corner where the, where the survival of the Russian nation is at stake. And I believe that's where, that's where Putin actually is sort of intellectually right now. And, and I do believe that they feel that. And, and with, with Trump's, you know, basically stepping into this role. Thank God that he's the president right now. With Trump stepping into this role, he actually is the guy that I believe Putin trusts. And frankly, I think the members of, of Europe are going to have to trust because Trump actually has some ideas about what to do with coming to a legitimate peace agreement. You know, we'll see what they come out of today. It's going to be. This is a very, this is monumentally historic for what is happening right now in the White House, in the Oval Office, and what, what conversations are going to take place, frankly, over the next week. We cannot afford to go to war against Russia. The United States of America cannot do that.
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And Russia doesn't want that either, let's be clear.
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B
And Russia doesn't want it.
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A
And so it would be inviting a war that both sides, Both sides don't want. Which is the ugliest of all things, actually.
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B
Exactly, exactly. And the, and the big problem there, Charlie, is the, is the idea of nuclear weapons. And, and I just don't want, I don't want that to be on the table. And the more these neo cons and, and people on the left as well, these more, these people that want this, that, that just have this hatred and that, I don't know where it, you know, drives from it. A lot of it's power, control and money. But this hatred of trying to get rid of what Russia, what are you then going to have? I mean, it's not going to happen. It is unrealistic. We have to think much more geopolitical. I actually would throw in a lot of other points of discussion where I, you know, and we sent some of this, but where I Trump talking to Putin about some of the other issues that are in play geopolitically. I mean, there are other aspects of the world that matters like the Middle east, like South America, like Venezuela, like Cuba. These are all things that the United States ought to be having conversations with Russia about. And you know, here, what Trump has to do first, first steps first is we've got to come up with not just a ceasefire, but we have to have a long term legitimate peace agreement. And that's what this is about. And anybody that thinks that we're going to continue this war with Russia is, is on a fool's errand and it will. The consequences for a continuation of a war are so bad for the rest of the world and they will only remain.
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A
If you had a rank at. Lieutenant General Michael Flynn, one minute remaining. What would be the greatest sticking point that you are concerned about?
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B
I think the greatest sticking point is, and I, and I think it's, I think, I think Putin's over the hump here is a long term security arrangement with Ukraine and the Ukrainian people. I think if that, if that is part of it and if Putin is accepting, accepting of that, then I think that those powers to be in Europe and I frankly think the Russians need to be at the table as well as a legitimate president, a duly elected president of Ukraine, not one that's declared martial law, then I think we can have a long term, a long term peace agreement where, where we can allow peace to break out and we can get, we can get on with economics, we get out with trade, we can get on with geopolitics and we can get on with dealing with the rest of the world. I mean, and frankly, the wolf closest to the sled, and that's China. Charlie.
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Lieutenant General Michael Flynn, thank you so much for your commentary. Please plug whatever you'd like.
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Well, I mean I have a great book out, Pardon of Innocence, a brand new book, talks about the whole what's going on with Russiagate and, and they can go to general flynn.com. or they can go to Amazon and buy Pardon of Innocence. It's a bestseller. It's a great book. And thank you so much, Charlie, for allowing me a few minutes with you.
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You're excellent. Thank you, sir. Lieutenant General Michael Flynn will have you back on.
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B
God bless.
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Yeah, I'm excited. It's available on Amazon right now. Charlie, I think your audience is gonna love it. It's really sort of a field manual of what it's like to be on the front lines battling this left, left wing lawfare machine and winning. When I was Attorney general in Missouri, we saw the landscape we took on the left, whether it was the vaccine mandate case, the COVID vaccine mandate case, we took that Supreme Court, we won the student loan debt forgiveness case, Missouri took that to the Supreme Court, and we won. We filed the Missouri vs Biden case that exposed this vast censorship enterprise. In that, in the book that's available now, you can read about the deposition of Anthony Fauci, the deposition about Elvis Chan, the deposition of somebody from cisa. Most people never heard of that organization. They were working to suppress speech, the CDC working with the federal government express speech. So I just thought it was important to sort of talk about what our playbook can be, what it was like to win those fights and really hold the line until President Trump could get back into office. And now what does that playbook look like as we fight the battles to make sure that the will of the people actually is able to move forward? Now that President Trump kind of broke this fever dream that we were in for four years.
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Let's read this from the book. Quote, history will show the Biden administration brought the most aggressively liberal, authoritarian and anti liberty excesses of government that America has ever seen. This book tells the story of how Eric Schmidt and his small but mighty team held the line during those dark days until the cavalry arrived. Tell us more about that because you were really holding the line. And I mean from Fauci to censorship, it's also a model how one state attorney general's office in Missouri could have nationwide implications. Tell us more, Senator.
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F
Yeah, I mean, I think, Charlie, the first part of the book, which again, you go on Amazon right now and order it, the first part of the book, I think there's a tendency to sort of, now that we're kind of on the other side of that fever dream I talked about, about how this was all inevitable, right? That it was inevitable that President Trump would get back. But you got to go back four years or so into those dark days post January 6th. This was the time of, you know, lockdowns. This is compulsory Covid shots, forced masking of kids, ESG DEI struggle sessions in this vast censorship enterprise. And what you needed was courage. So, like, for example, we brought these cases, they were ridiculed. They were called, you know, sort of lending to quote, unquote, conspiracy theories. But really what it takes right now is authentic leadership to stand up and fight back. And so we did that. And I'll just take the student loan debt forgiveness case. If Missouri hadn't brought that, we had the standing because Missouri had some loan servicing agency. If we hadn't brought that case, Biden would have got away with a half a trillion dollars worth of student loan debt forgiveness that the waitress and the truck driver would have to pay for the student loan debt of a theater professor from Harvard. I mean, this was insanity. This was, you know, playgrounds being, you know, roped off with police tape. This was five year olds being forced to wear masks all day long. This was parents being investigated for show up to school board meetings. I think it's important. There's a Czech writer, Milan Kadero, who says that basically the struggle against power is the, the fight between memory and forgetting. And I think it's important to remember where we were at, the courage that it takes to stand up and be that last line of defense, which is the title of the book. And ultimately, the Calvary did arrive. The American people rejected the excesses of the Biden administration. President Trump was able to come back now with this band of disruptors and all the good things that we're seeing right now. But really at that time in that four year period, it was really left to some unknown folks. I include myself in that, who stood up and said, you know what, this is craziness and we're gonna use the law and common sense to beat it back.
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Yeah. And so, Senator, what now is the blueprint for some of the lawfare that we're experiencing from these judges? It's a different type of lawfare. Right. But they are preventing President Trump from doing the most essential actions of his presidency. We have well over 80 to 100 of injunctions, I think 20 nationwide injunctions. It is about delaying, it is stalling. So it's a little bit different. But how do you, as a legal mind, how do you recommend that this administration accelerate and push through? Because what it does is it creates a sense of demoralization where they come up with a great idea and then they'll say, well, if we do it, then a judge is gonna strike it down. They want to try to demoralize the creativity and the forward boundary pushing mandate that this administration has. Senator.
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F
Well, I think it's important to understand the difference. What we were doing was we were fighting against the excesses, the overreach of government and the suppression of individual rights. What they're trying to do now is to reimpose that. They want that government, they want the administrative state to be empowered again. They want the individuals. I mean, they're totally fine with, by the way, censorship as long as it's conservatives being censored. So I think it's a very different perspective. By the way, the American people are with us. So the question is, how do we win? Well, if you look at it now, interestingly, my Solicitor General when I was Missouri Attorney General was John Sauer. John Sauer is the Solicitor General of the United States of America. Now, President Trump brought him on. He's doing a great job. And as you look at these cases as they make their way up from, you know, random district court decision to the appellate courts and ultimately Supreme Court, we're fighting back and we are winning. You look at the nationwide injunction issue. Early on, there were a bunch of them. The Supreme Court finally stepped in at the urging of President Trump and his legal team to say, you know what, there's been this abuse of nationwide injunctions. You can't do that. You can really only confine your decision to the district by which you're ruling. You look at the deportations. President Trump wanted to get rid of, the temporary protective status. The Supreme Court has said, yeah, the president has the ability to go do that, even though district court said you couldn't do it. You look at programming and personnel. Think of the Doge stuff. The President is certainly within his authority as the leader of the Article 2 branch to make those kinds of personnel decisions, and the Supreme Court has affirmed that. So if you look at one decision here or there, it can be depressing in some ways. Like take Boseberg, for example. That was really, you know, he took a case he never should have had and ruled against President Trump. But time and time again, these district court judges now are really radical, have been pushed back as you make your way through the court system. So the lesson here is we have to have the courage to fight back. I think for a long time, conservatives, those on the right, we sort of ceded that territory to the left. You know, they called it a living constitution. They had their activist lawyers, they had their judges. Now President Trump has put in 200 plus judges in his first term. We have a conservative Supreme Court. He's gonna be appointing more, but we have to have courage to stand up in that Article 3 branch, and we can win if we do it.
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The book title is the Last Line of Defense, how to Beat the Left in Court. What did you learn about Anthony Fauci and that entire gang of medical elitists when you had a chance to depose him and look a little bit into that rather sinister empire that he was controlling?
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F
I think people love this part of the book that Elvis Chan, the people we were able to take the depositions of. But one thing that was really striking, Foushee, he claimed he was the science on one hand, then said he didn't remember 174 times the court reporter sneezed. He asked her to wear a mask. I mean, this is totally insane. But he felt he sent this wasn't revealed before. He sent his chief deputy over to China at the beginning of COVID to look at what the CCP was doing. And he loved this lockdown model. And then when people questioned him, he would silence them. He helped write sort of papers that dismissed natural immunity. There's a lot in here, I think, that adds color to what we knew all along, that this guy was a tyrant. And that that the Fauci candles, now the light is dimmed on that and it's exposed in this book that again, last Line of Defense people can order. Now. It's just, I think, a important history lesson, but also a playbook for us to win moving forward.
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Check out Senator Eric Schmidt's latest book, very important, the Last Line of Defense, how to Beat the Left in Court. Senator, right now, Zelensky is preparing to visit the White House. We had the Anchorage summit back on Friday. Your thoughts as a US Senator on what President Trump is trying to accomplish here?
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F
I'm just really grateful that we have a president that's engaged in diplomacy. That's what this whole thing is about. President Trump is trying to bring the parties together. He's trying to get to a peace deal. This thing is a meat grinder right now. It's a war of attrition. Over a million people have died, tens of thousands every month. And so he's trying to find some resolution. And I do think it's interesting, I was on Fox News Sunday last night and Jake Sullivan or yesterday, and Jake Sullivan was on before me. And the criticism you hear from those in the mainstream media and on the left are coming from people that have been wrong about almost every foreign policy issue the last 30 years. Jake Sullivan and the Biden administration presided over the disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan, the actual invasion of Ukraine in 2023. And if you remember, he was also the one that was sitting there on the stage on October 2, 2023, and proclaimed that the Middle east was as quiet as it's been in decades. And five days later, you saw what happened on October 7th. So these folks have gotten it wrong. The plan under Biden was just keep sending American money over there without a plan and have a blank check, no accountability, don't ask the Europeans to step up. And President Trump has changed that thankfully to say, you know what, we need to bring this war to a negotiated peace. Step one was engaging Putin. Step two now is engaging Zelensky and other European, other European allies. And then I'm sure there'll be a step three. Here where the parties come together and hopefully something can work out. But this doesn't happen overnight, as you know, Charlie, this is like real work. This isn't some white paper. This is personalities. These are national interests. And he's trying to bring the parties together.
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And it's very telling. Putin flies all the way across the landmass of Asia to come to United States soil. The response from the media, of course, they're undermining. Yeah, they're consistently undermining President Trump's attempts to try and seek reconciliation and peace. Let's play cut 326. I want you to respond, I know you have to be very respectful in this way. Respond though, to your colleague, Senator Chris Murphy. He had a completely different reading, a different universe, and I do think it's worthy to have your response here. Play cut 326, please.
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That meeting was a disaster. It was an embarrassment for the United States. It was a failure. Putin got everything he wanted. I mean, first of all, he wanted that photo op, right? He wanted to be absolved of his war crimes in front of the world. He was invited to the United States. War criminals are not normally invited to the United States. President Trump said he wanted a ceasefire. It appears the ceasefire wasn't even seriously discussed. And then third, there's no consequences. Trump said, if I don't get a ceasefire, Putin's going to pay a price. And then he walked out of that meeting saying, I didn't get a ceasefire, I didn't get a peace deal. And so Putin walks away with his photo op with zero commitments made and zero consequences. What a great day for Russia.
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Okay, first of all, how does he know any of that? He was not in the room or associated. Your response, Senator Eric Schmidt.
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F
I mean, the Democrats on this point in particular are totally intellectually bankrupt. They have no ideas, they don't have a plan. The follow up question should have been, Senator Murphy, what do you propose we do about it to bring the war's end? They don't have an answer. I sit in the Senate, in the Senate, I listen to these guys talk on the Senate floor about how, you know, you need to stand up to Putin and we needed. They. Their way hasn't worked. Like Ukraine's not on the verge of victory here. Right? This is a meat grinder. This. Sadly, that is the deal. So there have to be like, adult conversations and you have to be willing to engage people that you don't want necessarily to date your daughter. Right? Like that's what the real world is. And that's what real diplomacy is, and I think what they're really objecting to, Charlie, is a shift in foreign policy here from this kind of Wilsonian adventurism, this globalist view that America should be the cop on the beat everywhere. And, you know, we don't have our own core national interests. What the President is doing is reorienting all of that to say our role here is to try to bring these two parties together because in the United States, life will go on. This is not, you know, President Trump wants peace here, but having the European allies step up a little bit more. If you really believe that Vladimir Putin is some existential threat to Europe, then you ought to be acting like it. You ought to be providing more for your own defense. And, you know, our subsidization to the degree that's out of balance of NATO has to be rebalanced. You know, we basically subsidize their, their, their social welfare programs in Europe. All of that has to change. And President Trump's that change agent. And so I'm, I'm glad that he's willing. To me, it's a demonstration of strength and confidence that an American leader would take that on. Joe Biden, first of all, couldn't stand up to even do that. His handlers wouldn't do it because they, on, in many ways all this invasion happened on their watch and they had no real, you know, plan. So anyway, I just think this is all part of Trump Derangement syndrome. Whatever he does, they take the opposite view. They're for crime in D.C. now. I mean, like, it's just insane. So.
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Senator Eric Schmidt, thank you so much. Check out the latest book by Senator Eric Schmidt. It's terrific. It is on the the Last Line of Defense, how to Beat the Left in Court. Thank you so much, Senator Schmidt.
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F
Thanks, Sherlock.
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Claim your four week kit today at mypatriotsupply.com Kirk that is mypatriotsupply.com kirk email us as always, freedomarliekirk.com okay, this story happened over the weekend and of course the media is ignoring it. This goes to show the cost and the consequence of illegal migration in ways you don't even always recognize. So there's a guy by the name of Harjing der Singh, Harjinder Singh. He is an illegal immigrant. He came into this country illegally. Now he's not Mexican, he's not Nicaraguan. No, he is from. I think he's from either Bangladesh or from India. Anyway, I think he's India. Yeah, India. The truck driver, he made an illegal U turn on Florida's turnpike that led to the passing and the death of three Americans. He illegally entered the US through the southern border in 2018. Harjinger Singh has been charged with three counts of vehicular homicide. Singh got his commercial driver's license as an illegal immigrant in the state of California, according to the Florida Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles. By the way, Florida didn't do their job here. I'll just be honest. Florida never should have allowed an illegal immigrant in their state. Why are we putting up with this? He's a Sikh and you can see in the B roll, he tries to do a U turn in the middle of a highway and the car behind him just gets obliterated. Three people died. And look in that video, Harjing Der Singh is just kind of watching, you know, deadpanning while, yep, he did an illegal U turn and oh yeah, look, he's just kind of like, oh, I guess I killed somebody. Unfathomable that a person got this, got a commercial license doing this. Unless you realize what's actually going on here. California will give a driver's license to anyone as long as they are illegal. They want illegal criminals here. And he's just so casual about it. You know, people say all the time, well, Charlie, what about the law abiding ones? Aren't they doing well? Law abiding ones become unfortunately responsible for mass carnage. He's just like, oops, I guess I killed three people. This is your guy, Harjinger Singh. If you are a Democrat, that is what you believe in. Here's a full DHS background. By the way, why have we not we Gotta find more of these. We gotta ramp up the deportations, everybody enough. We gotta have more ICE in the streets. We got to find more of these or else this is only going to continue. On September 20, 2018, he entered the United States. This is under Donald Trump without being inspected, admitted or paroled by an immigration officer. It's not Trump's fault, by the way. It was a whole different set of circumstances. U.S. border Patrol arrested Singh and was served near an I80 and processed as an expedile removal for credible fear. But then the United States Citizenship and Immigration Service issued a positive fear finding and notice, a notice to appear. He was arrested seven years ago and stayed into America. He got a bond and got a CDL and got a job. In 2019, an immigration judge set a bond for $5,000 and then he just kind of escaped. No one followed up. The Executive Office for Immigration Review Recallender's hearing to April 15, 2021 in Seattle, Washington. Again, the courts delay it. Harbinger Singh is a criminal. He committed a crime. He was arrested, but he was allowed to stay in the United States. And now an IJ grants change a venue from Seattle to San Francisco. And then In August of 2025, San Francisco placed an I247A immigration detainer for Singh with the San Joaquin County Sheriff's Office. But he was in Florida and he had a driver's license given to him by California. Red States must start removing any reciprocity agreements with California for cdls immediately. Florida, you got to step up here. Florida, you're a great state. Enough is enough. And that goes for all the mass Muslim immigration that's coming in this country as well. Enough. We gotta close the loopholes. And we need mass deportations. We need more people deported. The federal government needs to wage war on sanctuary states that do this. Why are we not arresting mayors that are allowing sanctuary cities? Why are we not arresting the people that are involved in sanctuary states? Texas, Utah, Florida could render CDLs from California null and void. Now, what is a CDL? A CDL is a California driver's license or a commercial driver's license. Either way, a commercial driver's license or. Well, it also works both ways. A California commercial driver's license, it works both ways. So this guy gets a commercial driver's license. Let's show the video again and just casually does a U turn resulting in three people being killed. How many more Americans have to die at the hands of illegal criminals like this guy, Harbinger Singh? Is he an American? Is he the best of our country? Of course not. Nothing about him is an American at all. And by the way, being an American is more than paperwork. As I've said before, Zoran Mamdani, he is not an American. Omar Fatah is not an American. Ilhan Omar is not an American. They're something else. They might have their paperwork, but just because you have your paperwork in order does not mean you are an American. American requires assimilation. It requires loyalty. It requires commitment. This guy's added no value to our country and the Democrats always say they do. And now there are three dead Americans because of him. They love the chance to virtue signal by showing how forgiving they are of foreign illegals and killers. And nothing about him is an American at all. And now three people are dead because of Harjin McGir Singh. We need mass deportations. 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Lamar Jackson is probably one of the most impressive raw talents ever to play quarterback in the National Football League. From his speed, his agility, his acceleration, his arm angles that he throws. I think he could throw like 75 yards or something. Just outrageous. Lamar Jackson decided to retweet or repost my post on X where I said it's all about Jesus. Lamar Jackson reposts it. And right on cue, the left loses their mind. Front page of foxnews.com Ravens Lamar Jackson sparks outrage after reposting Charlie Kirk's Christian message. People were going nuts all Sunday night saying that this is terrible. How dare you do it. Now they're saying they're getting mad that Lamar Jackson reposted Charlie Kirk's message. Okay, fine. Maybe it's the south park image that really bothered them. Maybe that's it. And you could put 352 up on stage and literally all I said is it's all about Jesus, which by the way, is metaphysically, theologically true. And even if you don't believe that's true, that shouldn't be offensive to you. Just keep moving on, keep your head down. But no, the fact that Lamar Jackson, who I believe won the MVP three or four years ago. Where's Brian Farnsworth when I need him? Brian knows all the, all the football trivia. Nate knows it pretty well too. Nate's running around. I believe Lamar Jackson won the MVP three or four years ago. That a conditional. I'll get a fact check on that. NFL MVP shared. He won twice. Thank you. My memory is right. He did win. He won two MVPs. Legitimately one of the best, not the best football players. And someone says Lamar Jackson out here retweeting Charlie Kirk. Hope he continues to choke in the playoffs. I mean, the left had completely overstepped their bounds in a way that is kind of breathtakingly remarkable. Another one, guys, I'm very aware that Lamar Jackson probably has zero idea who Charlie Kirk is and solely retweet because he talks about his faith. But it's still wild to see your favorite players name name right above the second spawn of Satan himself. It's funny. How am I the second spawn of Satan himself? While I'm also touting the word of Jesus, that one's a little strange, isn't it? However, this is part of a bigger picture. Forget the left reaction. There is a revival happening in the West. Everybody, especially in America. Gen Z men are more likely to attend church, of course, than Gen Z women. Gen Z women need to need to follow the trend. Barna Research Group reports that Gen Z teens are more interested in learning about Jesus, with younger cohorts leading the way in the growth of new commitments. Top music out there. Forest Frank is more popular than Drake. Forest Frank is a Christian musician and people really like his music. The American Bible Society found an increase in Bible use and engagement. According to the Wall Street Journal, Bible sales have spiked, driven largely by first time buyers. Finally, Christian entertainment has been seen a remarkable surge from the chosen to the King of kings. Worldwide music streams of Christian music are up 60% the last five years. Nietzsche famously said in the 1980s God is dead. But what if I told you that Gen Z is bringing God back to life? I mean that all metaphorically. God hasn't gone anywhere the last 150 years, but I mean it metaphorically. The west decided to turn its back on God in the late 1800s and now we are seeing young, young, younger people are far more religious than some of their parents. It is a youth led revival in this country because of all the BLM stuff, the COVID stuff, the lockdowns, the vaccines, the masks, the line, the duplicity, duplicitacy, the capacity. They can't own homes. They're looking for something ancient, something true, something that lasts, something that won't change, something that elevates, something divine, something that allows the human soul to flourish, something that is rooted in the natural law, something that acknowledges male and female distinction, something that allows for normativity and says that it's woven all throughout nature. They do not want this postmodern pile of trash. They want something beautiful, something good, something higher, something ancient, something unchanging, something unending. They want Jesus. And praise God for that. Thanks so much for listening everybody. Email us. As always, freedom. Charliekirk.com thanks so much for listening and God bless.
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