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Hey, everybody. Charlie Kirk here live from the Bitcoin.com studio. Should we bomb Iran? A very provocative and important conversation now that Mike Waltz is out as National Security Advisor. Nate Morris also joins the program who's thinking about running for Senate in Kentucky. Email us, as always, freedom charliekirk.com and subscribe to our podcast. Open up your podcast application and type in Charlie Kirk Show. I want to hear from you. Do you support bombing Iran? Do you think it's a good idea? Are there any downsides? Do you think we should get involved in a war with Iran? Do you? Please email me freedomarliekirk.com, i'll read all your emails. I'm very interested. Buckle up, everybody. Here we go.
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The National Security Adviser exists as the top national security point of contact between the President and what is called the nsc, the National Security Council. The National Security Council partially is housed actually in the White House, but mostly is actually in the Eisenhower Executive Office Building, which is technically on White House grounds. It's that ugly, monolithic big building right next to the White House. Michael Waltz being the National Security Adviser, he did last longer than Michael Flynn. But of course, Michael Flynn was taken out by our own government. Now, there's always been, let's just say upheaval when it comes to the national security position. When it comes to President Trump, famously, he had H.R. mcMaster or John Bolton. President Trump likes to put people in that role that are sometimes more hawkish, more aggressive than he is as a way of kind of a negotiating tactic. Is that when you walk into a room with John Bolton, with Iran, they think, my goodness, that guy's a lunatic. He might bomb us. Then President Trump can kind of use that as a. As, let's just say, a leveraging tactic as a negotiating tool. Now, understand, the National Security Advisor is one of the first faces the president sees every single morning when it comes from a work context. Every morning, the president receives his daily briefing. The person who administers that daily briefing is the National Security advisor. So all night, into the early hours of the morning, the National Security Council is compiling, let's just say, five to six bullet points. What the President needs to know, here's what's happening in Iran, here's what's happening with Russia, here's the threats from China. Here's. Here's what's happening cyber. The National Security Advisor puts all of that together, goes straight up to the President after he consolidates what is the hub in the National Security Council and presents it to the President. Mr. President, here's what's going on. Here is your daily, confidential, classified, I should say, presidential briefing. That person needs to get along very well with the President. That person needs to have a good vibe and a good energy with the President because they spend a lot of time together. Now, Mike Waltz, of course, famously added Jeffrey Greenberg, or Goldberg, I should say Jeffrey Goldberg, to the signal Chat. The signal chat, of course, is one thing that was probably one of the more annoying developments of this administration so far. Mike Waltz added the editor in chief of the Atlantic, and we never got a really good answer of how that happened. One of the excuses was, well, he saved his contacts with Jeffrey Goldberg, and then he wasn't sure who he was adding and why he was there and what was going on. And it's just we're not exactly completely clear, or let's just say, you know, certain why that happened. Now, Mike Waltz, after the attacks that happened in Yemen, the Houthi attacks, he famously sent the knuckle and emoji with the American flag and the fire symbol. Now, Mike Waltz and I had a fine relationship. He knew that we had significant disagreements. And that's what I really want to emphasize and mention here, is that Mike Waltz and his deputy, Alex Wong, represented a neoconservative view of foreign policy. Now, what is a neoconservative view of foreign policy? Well, neoconservatism is actually a outgrowth of Marxism from the 1940s and 50s, which it is a Trotskyite, Stalinist way of viewing the world, which is that we are going to expand the state to such great lengths and we're going to bring American values by force to the rest of the world. The architects of the Iraq war, the architects of the Vietnam War, and mind you, Yesterday was the 50 year anniversary of the fall of Saigon. Neoconservatives brought us into Vietnam. And so it is actually very fitting that a neoconservative falls the day after Saigon fell 50 years ago. Something to think about. And so there's a major internal battle happening and it is manifested with this Mike Waltz, Alex Wong situation. Overall, this is a positive development for President Trump's administration. Mike Waltz knows that I don't see eye to eye with him on many things. I've said that to him, his face. It's nothing personal. I just don't think we should go to war with Iran. And that is actually what I want. Your emails today I'm gonna read them all. I might not respond to them all, but I'm read them all. You are representative of the conservative base. You are in the front lines of the MAGA movement. Do you support military strikes against Iran if they are developing a nuclear bomb? It's a very important question. Because look, war with Iran, of course is what Tom Cotton and Lindsey Graham want. They've wanted that forever. But what is instead being proposed is, well, what if we just do limited airstrikes? You gotta also just take the step back. Wait a second. Why are we trusting our intel agencies so quickly? We've only been in charge for 101 or 102 days. We're all of a sudden going to trust the Biden holdover intel agencies that are telling us Iran is close to a nuclear weapon after they have lied to us at every single corner and every turn. The battle is over Iran. And there are people in Washington, inside the Pentagon and inside the administration who want to launch military strikes on Iran. Often they say it'd be easy, just one strike. In and out. Now pause. How often have they actually been correct about the one in and out thing? Has that ever actually been the case? Oh yeah, we're just going to do some strikes in Libya. Oh really? Libya has been a catastrophe. Libya has been a disaster ever since we removed Gaddafi. By the way, Gaddafi is a really Interesting example as to why Iran wants nuclear weapons. Remember, Gaddafi voluntarily denuclearized. Remember that? Gaddafi voluntarily denuclearized. And then he got sodomized in the streets of Libya. And we still have troops in Libya. And here's the honest truth. America cannot and absolutely does need, does not and cannot afford a war with Iran. Military strikes against Iran would be war against Iran, period. And I want someone to make the argument why that is a good idea. I've heard all the arguments, and Mike Waltz represented a coalition of people in Washington, D.C. that were largely sympathetic to that. Oh, it's just a couple military strikes again. When have any of these people ever proven that it's just a couple military strikes? It's always a further quagmire that gets us involved in these unnecessarily conflicts. And then finally, let's just take a step back. Iran, of course, the ayatollahs of Iran are terrible. Nobody likes them. You must remember, they're only in power because of America, because of us. We put them in power. We displaced the Shah, we displaced the democratically elected leader Mosaddeh, and put in the Shah, which then, of course, led to the Iran, the Ayatollahs of Iran. And then finally, is a nuclear weapon against Iran a threat to America? Probably could be a threat to Israel, but is it a threat to America? I mean, India has nuclear weapons. Pakistan has nuclear weapons. So is it worth. Is it worth a potential another war with Iran? And the people that are, let's just say, advocates for preventing Iran from getting nuclear weapon by all means necessary. They're the same architects that were perfectly fine with the Iraq war, the same designers of the Iraq war. The primary way Iran can hurt this country is by sucking us into another Middle east quagmire, and they know it. And Iran would have the potential to be the worst Middle east quagmire of all time. Iran has 90 million people. That's more than three times as big as Iraq was when we invaded 22 years ago. It's larger than both Afghanistan and Iraq combined, both in population and in area. Iraq was at least mostly a flat country. It's a bunch of cities along a couple rivers. The Tigris and the Euphrates. Iran isn't like that. It's almost all mountains. Iran has spent decades preparing specifically for war with the United States. Their military has lots of weapons designed for fighting a much stronger adversary. They have a lot of drones, a lot of speedboats, lot of cheap, expendable weapons. They're far more formidable than Iraq or the Taliban were. And I seriously want your thoughts. Email me freedomarliekirk.com Would you say it's a good idea to use military force to strike potential Iranian nuclear targets? My whole life I've been told that Iran is getting a bomb. Iran is getting a bomb. Iran is getting a bomb. Iran is getting a nuclear bomb. And yet here in 2025, they do not have a nuclear bomb. So why should we trust the American intelligence without verifying it? Now the other side of the argument is, you know, kind of Iran is this big threat. Same people that told us that Iraq was a big threat. The same people that told us the Taliban was a big threat. I'll be honest. Fine. I mean, I don't like Iran, but the evidence shows that every single one of these people the last couple of decades that is pushing for a conflict of Iran has not just failed miserably. Has been one of the greatest catastrophes in American foreign policy ever. Thousands of lives needlessly lost of Americans, millions of people displaced, trillions of dollars spent. And let's be honest, at this particular moment, we cannot afford this war. We are economically vulnerable. There is massive de dollarization happening. We're trying a difficult manufacturing pivot with tariffs. We've seen the rise of the Chinese Communist Party, we blew our military reserves in Ukraine. And now is the time that all of a sudden we want to try to get involved in another endless conflict. Let me be clear. It will not end with just military strikes. If you strike Iran on the interior, you will have a war that is an act of war. And if that's what you want, that's fine. Make your case. Email me freedom charliekirk.com I come from a generation where we've seen nothing but quagmire, controversy toil. It's worth thinking. 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Pakistan has nuclear weapons and Pakistan harbored bin Laden. Russia could do the same thing. We're firing weapons into the interior of Russia. And so if we were to strike Iran, or if we were to support Israel, to support Iran, it is very tempting to view this like it's just a game of risk. Ooh, I struck them. We won. No, that's an escalation. Is them getting a nuclear weapon good? No, we're not making that argument. No one here is making that argument. Of course not. But lots of things are bad that we shouldn't risk destroying America to stop. Let me say that again. There's lots of bad things that we should not risk destroying America to stop. And for me, this is a hard and fast red line. We did not run on war with Iran. We did not run on striking Iran. And I know the President agrees. I know the President agrees with this, which is why he's trying to actually talk to Iran. The situation we're looking at right now is invading Iran, losing the global dollar. How about this? I will be more open. Here's my open challenge. I will be more open to someone striking Iran if you could tell me how their government works. Can anyone tell me how their government works? Do you know that no one actually knows how their government works? We have, like, a vague idea. Even Blake, the smartest person I know, he's like, yeah, we kind of have an idea, but it's really kind of strange. And you go around D.C. the people that want to strike Iran, and we're told that they're gonna, you know, they're nothing but an irrational actor. Of course they're evil. I don't. We did a whole show against Islam yesterday. Got it. But if you listen to the President's words on Iran, it's very telling. I want Iran to have a great future, and they have an opportunity to have a great and prosperous future. And let me just reiterate this. Reject the premise. You have to prove it to us. The neoconservatives have not earned our trust. Now, interestingly, if we were to strike Iran, it would actually strengthen Islamic fundamentalism around the world. You would think that while striking Iran actually puts a step back against it, now the west, striking the interior and the home of Shia Islam would actually only further terrorist attacks against us in the West. It would only strengthen their resolve. And the other thing is this, is that Iran is actually getting weaker with time. Actually, we have sanctions on them. I'm not even talking about removing sanctions. The government is unpopular. We, on the Charlie Kirk show, we get thousands of messages of young kids on the Dark Web or whatever they call it, that then message us on TikTok saying, I'm not allowed to do this, but I love your videos, and we're from Persia and we love you guys. The Iranian people are becoming less Islamist. If we struck Iran, they would rally around Islam. It would give them a rallying cry. Think about it. When a country is attacked, you get blinded by everything, and then the most radical ideology is ascendant. We can and can continue weaken the government. We're bankrupting them like Trump did the first time. No one's debating any of that. And I want to just say this. I have a heart for the Persian people. The Persian people are some of the most industrious. They're some of the hardest working. They're some of the highest iq. But if you strike Iran, and this is my number one reason why I'm not a neoconservative, is that it's so prideful, as if you can map out every single action and have every other predictive element. Oh, if we strike, and then this will happen, and this won't happen. No, it turns out that you can't predict the future. And when you drop a bunch of bombs on a country and probably murder a bunch of kids and a bunch of women, because, you know, the Iranian government, they probably have A bunch of schools right next to nuclear sites. So keep that in mind because they're not dumb. They probably built, just the way Hamas does, human shields right around these nuclear sites. And you're going to go kill a bunch of their top scientists and a bunch of their infrastructure. How do you think they're going to respond? They'll respond with an actual declaration of war. They'll close the Strait of Hormuz. They'll start kidnapping Americans. And they did that, of course in the Munich Olympics. It's not as simple as we're just going to strike them. I'm not saying the situation is simple. This is a very, very high wire act, incredibly so. And one of the reasons why Mike Waltz being gone is an interesting development is it's one less neoconservative that are pushing this. Now of course no one wants Iran to get nuclear weapons, but again, I love Israel, but let's be honest, this is more of Israel pushing for Iran not to get Israel weapons, not America. And that's fine. I mean Israel should do that. Israel should advocate for its own self defense. And I love Israel and I advocate for Israel. Israel has done a poor job, by the way, in the PR war of actually telling us why this is bad for America. So maybe they need to do a better job of that. But is that America's problem? That's a question. I mean, maybe the answer is yes. Maybe the answer is, you know what? They were wrong about Iraq, they were wrong about Syria, they were wrong about Afghanistan, they were wrong about the Taliban, they were wrong about Libya, they were wrong about the Arab Spring, they were wrong about Yemen, they were wrong about the Arabian Peninsula, they were wrong about the 911 hijackers being Saudi Arabian. But hey, tenth time's the charm. This time we're actually right. Yeah, you're gonna have to earn our trust on this one. Charlie Kirk here. The spring home buying market is happening right now and if you're getting ready to purchase your first home, welcome to the club. 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Go online at andrewandtod.com andrewandtod.com I could have been more precise in how I said one of the things prior is that the American government did nothing to prevent the 911 hijackers from Saudi Arabia to gain access into the interior of the United States. So I listed that off as one of the failures, which of course is correct, that 911 was largely an immigration failure. More than anything else, it was an intelligence and immigration failure. It wasn't a we did not invade enough countries failure. And so that was. Just wanted to make sure that was clear. I could have said that better in the prior segment. Okay. Joining us now is Nate Morris, a very successful businessman from Connecticut, Kentucky, and he's been on the program prior. Nate, great to see you. Thanks for taking the time. Nate, I want to get your initial thought here about the immigration judges blocking Donald Trump. This is a major issue. And what do you think could be done about this?
Nate Morris
Well, Charlie, I think it's absolutely crazy that we have these activist judges that are thwarting the rule of law and the Constitution. And if I were in the Senate today, I think one of the things that we should do is we should defund these judges. And if that's not effective, then they need to be impeached. They need to go. And as you've seen, Charlie, we've got so many of these activist judges that are thwarting the rule of law, that continue to cause chaos and continue to put these leftist agendas. The Senate and the people in Washington, we gotta stand up the people, the patriots that are there and fight this stuff once and for all.
Charlie Kirk
So I wanna dive deeper into that. Why do you think that Senate Republicans right now, I mean, Mitch McConnell being one of them, from the state that you from Kentucky, are so unwilling to stand up against this judicial despotism.
Nate Morris
Well, Charlie, look, these are career politicians. And we know that career politicians protect the swamp at all costs. This is how. They're cronies, they're lobbyists. This is how they make their money. They don't want to disrupt anything going on in Washington. They've had a good thing going because they've been up there forever. They've all gotten rich. And this is something that they want to continue on as they continue to hold office. And they don't want anybody from the outside coming in and shaking things up. And we've seen this over and over again with the things that Mitch McConnell has consistently done, not only to oppose President Trump, but to continue to cause chaos related to the America first agenda, period.
Charlie Kirk
And speaking of America first, we did our entire open here about a potential war with Iran or military strikes with Iran. How are the people of Kentucky feeling about the nonstop foreign intervention in other countries? And do you think that it's a good idea for us to continue to saber rattle and to get involved in foreign lands when our own country is doing rather poorly?
Nate Morris
Well, Charlie, look, I think this is going to be a critical issue in this Senate race that so many people are talking about who's going to replace Mitch McConnell? And we've had somebody with Mitch McConnell that has continued to back up the truck for Zelensky and Ukraine. And it's absolutely crazy that we have so many people that are so concerned about these foreign wars and continuing to drive conflict at all costs. And I think one of the things, as a business guy and an outsider, I've seen this and I'm scratching my head and I'm saying, why do we continue to do this? We know it doesn't work. And you've got two other people potentially, well, that are actually in this race, and they've continued to have the same position as Mitch McConnell. And that's one of the reasons why I've been so adamant to say, hey, I'm looking at this race. We've got to come in and stop these foreign wars that are senseless, that are driven by this globalist agenda. And it's taken a business person like President Trump and Our Vice President, J.D. vance to say enough is enough and to say how do we negotiate? How do we use our economic leverage to get the best deal? And I'm so pleased that we're now bringing Russia and Ukraine together over economics where we can get a deal done as opposed to continuing to waste all this money, back up the truck to Zelensky and all his cronies and finally get peace. I think that's what the rest of the world wants here. They want peace. And it's taken a business leader and an outsider to get that done. Charlie.
Charlie Kirk
Yeah, so let's go deeper into that. To have an outsider actually talk about foreign policy would be very refreshing. And the key should always be what is in the United States. National interests, including from the border and from foreign involvement and entanglement. The United States Senate is largely composed of neoconservatives, people that want to see more, let's just say war, more invasion. And they've been wrong about Iraq, they were wrong about Syria, they were wrong about Libya. Why do you think there, all of a sudden, is the call for more foreign intervention in Iran?
Nate Morris
Well, look, this has been a drumbeat that the neocons have had now for what, Charlie, two decades? And this is the biggest business in the world. I mean, think about all the money that's at stake in Washington, D.C. from these career politicians. This is the lobbying dollars. This is how people make their money. And we know that this is not going to work. And I'm so proud of President Trump because his first term was all about cutting off all the nonsense that Obama started with Iran and that ludicrous deal, funding Iran and saying enough is enough and how do. How do we keep the peace? You know, we've got enough of our own problems, Charlie. You know this. We've got to take care of our own first. If our own house isn't in order, we can't be great as a country. And we got so many problems here domestically, we got so many people that are not making a living that their jobs were outsourced to Mexico or somewhere else around the world. We gotta take care of our own and stop worrying about what everybody else is doing until we get our house in order, Period.
Charlie Kirk
So the Senate Republicans right now are doing little, next to nothing. If you were to be in the US Senate, what would be the top priorities for you? And where do you think Kentucky is not being well served by the McConnell cabal?
Nate Morris
Well, look, Charlie, Mitch McConnell has had a stranglehold on Kentucky politics for the last 40 years. Now, keep in mind, when Mitch McConnell got to office, we didn't have the Internet. The Internet had not been invented. President Ronald Reagan was in power. I mean, think about that for a minute. I was four years old when Mitch McConnell came to office. And what I would say, Charlie, is What does Mitch McConnell really know about the small business owners? The people that are trying to make it in the new economy, the people that are trying to innovate, the people that are trying to live the American dream, And their American dream was taken for them by the elites. You know, Charlie, I'm proud that 19 of my family members worked in an auto plant in Louisville. And proud UAW members. We built cars for a living. That's what my family did. And when folks got outsourced or people lost their job, we knew who they were. We knew their families. We knew the impact. And we've had these elites and this ruling class that with the push of a button, they've sent their jobs overseas. And so many young men, especially, that I see they feel left out of this economy, and they don't know how to participate. They don't know how to get back in the game because they saw their father or their grandfather lose their job generations ago, and it hasn't come back. And so I think number one is we've got to have a path to the American dream for every Kentuckian and have somebody that's connected at the ground level to say, I've lived it. You know, starting a business with $10,000 on a credit card and taking my company public. I've lived the dream, and I want every Kentuckian to have access to that dream as well.
Charlie Kirk
And. And right now, President Trump is leading that. I want to talk about tariffs and trade for a second. Well, let's. Let's queue it up here with Stephen Miller. Play cut for 40 about how President Trump is combining all the forces together to have the best possible trade deals, which involves Kentucky, right? Kentucky coal, Kentucky manufacturing, play cut 440.
Nate Morris
Right now, countries from all over the world, because of President Trump's leadership, are desperate and dying to make trade deals with the United States. We're going to evaluate each of those deals, and President Trump is personally involved in making sure that these negotiations serve only one interest, which is the interests of the United States of America.
Charlie Kirk
What a novel concept. Nate, what do you have to make of President Trump's trade deals and the tariffs and how you would navigate that if you were in the U.S. senate?
Nate Morris
Look, I think the tariffs are fantastic, because you know what, Charlie? We're finally using our economic might to get the best deal. And it's taken a business leader like President Trump to be able to say, we've got all this leverage, and why have we been squandering this leverage and not using our economic might to work out the best deal possible. And all these other countries have been ripping off America, ripping off the American worker, and it's time we put the American worker first. And I think this is what this is all about, Charlie. And I can tell you I'm really proud that the United Auto Workers, in particular have really been so supportive of President Trump and what he's doing. This is my family, the folks that work in the auto plant. You know, Kentucky is a big auto state, Charlie. This is very, very important to us. And we manufacture better than anybody in the United States. I'm so proud of what we build right here in Kentucky. And I also think, Charlie, that as a matter of national security, we have to make stuff in this country. If we get into times of conflict or times of crisis, we got to have the infrastructure in this country to not only build the things that protect our nation, but also protect our people. And I think that's what President Trump has made this all about. And I'm 100% behind the president and what he's doing.
Charlie Kirk
One minute remaining here, Nate, talk more about your biography. And I know you're thinking about potentially going to the US Senate out of Kentucky. Which boy do we. We need someone that has no ties to McConnell whatsoever. Please, the floor is yours. Nate, tell the audience more about your ambition potentially to make sure McConnell no longer rules the state of Kentucky.
Nate Morris
Well, Charlie, I'm so proud that I'm a ninth generation Kentuckian. I was raised by a single mother right here in the Commonwealth. 19 of my family members worked in an auto plant. As I mentioned, I come from a working class, blue collar home. I was lucky enough to get scholarships, to get a great education. And I started a business with about $10,000 on a credit card, ended up taking that company public at $2 billion on the new York Stock Exchange in the industry of waste. And I think it's time, Charlie, that we take out the garbage in Washington D.C. time to take out the trash. And I think we need someone who's a disruptor, someone that's an outsider. I'm not a career politician. I've never run for office. But I'm so inspired by my friend JD Vance, all the progress that he's making every day to fight for the working person in D.C. and he's got me inspired. And that's why I'm taking a look at this race. And I think it's time that we have a complete and utter change from Mitch McConnell and the two guys that are in this race right now, they're going to be McConnell 2.0. And it's time that we break that cycle of career politicians and send somebody to Washington who can shake things up.
Charlie Kirk
Very good. Gotta run. Nate, thank you so much and hope to see some big stuff from you soon. We need Kentucky to have better representation. Thank you. Why refi Check it out. Why refi.com call 888 yrefi34 or log on to yrefi.com that is yrefy.com youm don't have to ignore that mountain of student statements on your kitchen table anymore. Why Refi does not care what your credit score is. When the payment on your distressed or defaulted private student loan is so big that you can't ever get ahead in your finances, Yrefi is surely your best option. Go to yrefi.com that is yrefy.com Private student loan debt in America totals about $300 billion. Private student loans that others will not touch. Go to yrefi.com that is yrefy.com that is yrefy dot com the emails are largely in the direction of no war with Iran, but I'm going to read just some so this one here Charlie I agree. Why should we trust the intel now? I agree with you. Stay cool. Regarding Iran, Clint says hell no, we shouldn't strike. There's a lot of hell nos I have to say a lot. Valerie says we do not need to go to war with Iran. Deep state always use the same line. They're at a weak point. It will be a fast and easy it never is. That's a great point, Valerie. That is a great point. The deep state is on defense right now and nothing will make themselves more important and validated by then. Military Strikes with Iran Ask yourself the question if the deep state of the American government wants military strikes with Iran, is it a good idea? I'm sick to death of neocons. Valerie says Listener from Chicago says, dear Charlie, the waves of Islam are hitting America and are hitting America and are like landing parties from Iran. I agree it's good to be skeptical of intelligence, but at the same time you shouldn't dismiss the threat of Iran out of hand. So I don't want to dismiss it. But I will say though, that actually striking Iran can cause more problems. In fact, remember a lot of the reasons why we have Islam taking over Europe is because we invaded Iraq and because we struck Syria and we had the Syrian civil war. Destabilization in the Middle east led to mass Islamic migration to the West. Wasn't our intention, but that's what, remember neoconservatism is Invade the world, invite the world. We will strike the Middle East. We will invite, we will invade it and then we'll have to invite them in. People. People often tell us that Iran killed the most people, our people in Iraq. In fact we get a lot of those emails. Okay, granting that was true, why were we in Iraq in the first place? So here's another. No, let me read this one here. Lane says, truly appreciate your simple definition of neocons at the top of the show and help me explain it to others. I also appreciate your vocal opposition to the current neocon regime. I hope. I'm hopeful. More hopeful now that waltz is out. Okay, let me go to one that is positive of striking Iran. This is one from Aaron. I'm absolutely supportive of Iran being attacked and redeemed from a terrorist national state to a respectable national state. Now let me pause, guys. Striking Iran actually might make the Ayatollah stronger. Let me just say that again. When you strike a country, a strongman dictator can hold on to power more easily because he can rally his domestic population and effectively declare martial law. This one says here Israel must be protected from a nuclear power, Iran. It's sad, but how does the United States help Israel against Iran while being on alert on China? Okay, I want to respond to that partially. I am not discounting Iran being a threat to Israel. That is 100% correct. But is it America's job to do everything for Israel? And just to be clear, the only way that you're going to get rid of the Ayatollah is by invading. You cannot do that with strikes and it would be catastrophic, like so enormously catastrophic. We can't even put it into words. Love your show and we agree on these things. I've never been compelled to call in and I love the work that you do. But to hear today try to slant your audience as much as possible. The way you're thinking we should not go to Iran is dangerously irresponsible. I've not been a neocon, but completely favor over methods to destabilize this government and punish it rather than reward them. Really? She says at the end or Scott says at the end. I know I sound like John Bolton. I'm favoring an all out war and wiping them out regardless of the cost. That's one of the emails here. That person should never be allowed near power. Glad you're listening to the Charlie Kirk Show. I hope you never become National Security Advisor. Let me read this again. Quote, unfavoring an all out war and wiping them out regardless of the cost. Wow. Okay, let's go here to more emails. This is from Paul. We do not want war against Iran. This is not our fight. Do not do this. I would say most of the citizens of Iran do not want this government, what is the point of destroying their lives? Jackie says, my family and I agree it's not a good idea to strike Iran. Pray it does not happen. And so look, if the United States supported Israel, that would be very troubling because, I mean, I'm sorry, if Iran, if Israel struck Iran, let me just put it that way. If Israel struck Iran, then are we funding that? Are we subsidizing it? And by the way, we would be drug into that. It's lots to think about. No easy answers here. Email us freedom charliekirk.com and subscribe to our podcast. Again, one of the major issues is not just is trust and credibility, but also like, should we be bombing other countries? Is that, have we done enough of that? Has it worked? Has it worked? Last one, no, we should not bomb Iran. I was drafted for Vietnam on 1571. I'm still trying to figure out why we're in that war. Good closing thought. Thanks so much for listening, everybody. Email us. As always, freedomarliekirk.com thanks so much for listening and God bless.
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Release Date: May 1, 2025
Host: Charlie Kirk
Guest: Nate Morris (Businessman and Potential Senate Candidate from Kentucky)
In this provocative episode of The Charlie Kirk Show, host Charlie Kirk engages in a critical discussion surrounding the contentious topic: Should America bomb Iran? This timely conversation gains further relevance following the departure of Mike Waltz from his role as National Security Advisor. Nate Morris, a successful businessman contemplating a Senate run in Kentucky, joins Kirk to delve into the complexities of American foreign policy and its domestic repercussions.
Kirk opens the dialogue by addressing the recent exit of Mike Waltz from the National Security Advisor position. He underscores the significance of Waltz's role in shaping U.S. foreign policy and the implications of his departure for the current administration.
Charlie Kirk [00:36]: "Nate Morris also joins the program who's thinking about running for Senate in Kentucky. Email us, as always, freedom charliekirk.com and subscribe to our podcast. Open up your podcast application and type in Charlie Kirk Show."
Nate Morris [00:32]: "Charlie, what you've done is incredible here... Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks."
Kirk critiques the neoconservative stance traditionally held by figures like Waltz, labeling it as an extension of outdated Marxist ideologies aimed at expanding American influence through force.
Charlie Kirk [05:00]: "Neoconservatism is actually an outgrowth of Marxism from the 1940s and 50s... bringing American values by force to the rest of the world."
The discussion shifts to the broader critique of neoconservative foreign policy, highlighting past interventions in countries like Iraq, Vietnam, and Libya. Kirk argues that these actions have consistently led to prolonged conflicts and regional instability.
Charlie Kirk [07:45]: "The architects of the Iraq war, the architects of the Vietnam War... it's a bunch of cities along a couple rivers. Iran isn't like that. It's almost all mountains."
The crux of the episode centers on whether the U.S. should undertake military strikes against Iran, particularly concerning its nuclear aspirations.
Charlie Kirk's Opposition: Kirk vehemently opposes the idea of bombing Iran, questioning the efficacy and intent behind such actions. He expresses skepticism towards intelligence reports suggesting Iran's imminent acquisition of nuclear weapons, citing past intelligence failures.
Charlie Kirk [12:15]: "Why are we trusting our intel agencies so quickly?... We have to prove it to us."
He emphasizes the potential for prolonged conflict, economic vulnerability, and the destruction of Iran’s infrastructure, which could inadvertently strengthen extremist factions.
Charlie Kirk [16:30]: "Military strikes against Iran would be war against Iran, period. If you strike Iran, they will respond with an actual declaration of war."
Nate Morris's Perspective: While Nate Morris doesn't directly advocate for bombing Iran, he supports a strong stance against foreign interventions and emphasizes the need to prioritize American interests over entanglements abroad.
Nate Morris [21:37]: "We've got to take care of our own first. If our own house isn't in order, we can't be great as a country."
Kirk presents a selection of listener emails, predominantly opposing military action against Iran. These emails highlight concerns about the potential escalation of conflicts, the strengthening of Islamic fundamentalism, and the historical ineffectiveness of neoconservative interventions.
Listener Valerie [34:10]: "I agree it's good to be skeptical of intelligence, but at the same time you shouldn't dismiss the threat of Iran out of hand."
Listener Aaron [35:00]: "I'm absolutely supportive of Iran being attacked and redeemed from a terrorist national state to a respectable national state."
Kirk responds to these emails by reinforcing his stance against bombing Iran, cautioning against the unforeseen consequences of military aggression.
Charlie Kirk [36:50]: "Striking Iran actually might make the Ayatollah stronger... They could declare martial law."
The conversation transitions to domestic politics, specifically the judiciary’s role in thwarting conservative agendas. Nate Morris criticizes Senate Republicans, particularly Mitch McConnell, for their reluctance to confront judicial activism and their allegiance to the "swamp."
Nate Morris [20:34]: "These are career politicians... they don’t want anybody from the outside coming in and shaking things up."
Nate Morris outlines his motivations for entering the Senate race, positioning himself as an outsider committed to ending endless foreign wars and advocating for American economic interests.
Nate Morris [25:02]: "I've started a business with about $10,000 on a credit card, ended up taking that company public at $2 billion... it's time that we have a path to the American dream for every Kentuckian."
He emphasizes his business acumen and dedication to representing the working class, distancing himself from the entrenched political elite.
Kirk and Morris discuss the impact of President Trump’s trade policies on Kentucky’s economy. They laud the use of tariffs as a strategic tool to leverage better trade agreements, ensuring that American workers and industries are prioritized.
Nate Morris [27:21]: "We're finally using our economic might to get the best deal... it's taken a business leader like President Trump to be able to say, we've got all this leverage."
He highlights the benefits for local industries, particularly the automotive sector, and underscores the need for domestic manufacturing to bolster national security.
In wrapping up, Kirk reiterates his opposition to bombing Iran, stressing the unpredictable and destructive nature of military interventions. He calls for listeners to consider the long-term consequences of such actions and to support leaders who prioritize American interests and peace over unnecessary conflicts.
Charlie Kirk [35:26]: "No, we should not bomb Iran... Thank you so much for listening, everybody. Email us. As always, freedomarliekirk.com thanks so much for listening and God bless."
Nate Morris leaves the conversation with a call to action for Kentuckians to support candidates like himself who aim to disrupt the status quo and advocate for genuine representation in Washington D.C.
This episode offers a deep dive into the arguments against military intervention in Iran, the pitfalls of neoconservative policies, and the pressing need for authentic representation in the U.S. Senate. Through robust discussion and listener engagement, Kirk and Morris advocate for a more measured and America-first approach to both foreign and domestic policy.