← The Amazing Intern - Turning Your A.I. Curiosity Into Confidence
The Amazing Intern - Turning Your A.I. Curiosity Into Confidence
Ep 112 - Using AI To Turn Passion Into Projects With Ryan Thompson, The Assumable Guy
00:39:37
Loading summary
Transcript100 lines
- [00:00]
Kerry Weston
Awkward time to ask this, but. Hey, did you download the trail map?
- [00:04]
T-Mobile Advertiser
Yeah.
- [00:05]
Ryan Thompson
No, I don't need to.
- [00:06]
T-Mobile Advertiser
I don't understand. You're trusting your signal out here.
- [00:08]
Ryan Thompson
I'm trusting T Mobile. They have the best network. And if we end up in bumtots nowhere, well, we've got T Satellite for backup. Whoa.
- [00:15]
Kerry Weston
I don't trust my carrier that much.
- [00:17]
Ryan Thompson
We'll just use your phone as a flashlight.
- [00:21]
T-Mobile Advertiser
With America's best network and T Satellite, we're keeping you connected in places you never thought possible. And if you switch today, you get free phones for zero down and only 25 bucks a month per line for four. Find out more@t mobile.com or visit your local store. Best Mobile Network Based on analysis by Ooklev Speed Test Intelligence data to age 2025 with 24 monthly bill credits and 4 eligible port ins on essentials for well qualified customers with autopay plus taxes, fees and $35 connection charge per line credits and imbalance 2 if you pay off earlier, cancel contact US Finance Agreement example $299.99 Moto Edge 5G required T Satellite available with compatible device in most outdoor areas in the US where you can see the sky included with experience beyond or $10 a month. However, News Monthly cancel anytime visit t
- [01:00]
Kerry Weston
mobile.com hey, it's Kerry. Hey. This week on the show, we've got a guest. I've got Ryan Thompson, who is a real estate agent from Colorado. Now, like you, Ryan is curious about AI and he's used that curiosity to find benefit for his business. But as a side benefit, he's also found ways of exploring his interests and passions personally. And he's using the time he's saving with AI to build tools to help others do the same. Now, you're going to hear Ryan's story in our conversation and he's going to touch upon some themes that have come up before on the show. So in the show notes, I've linked eight different episodes that go deeper into the themes that we talk about so you can learn more about it and apply it yourself. If that sounds interesting, stick with me and I'll see you on the other side of the music. Hey there. Welcome to the Amazing Intern, the podcast designed to help take your AI curiosity and turn it into confidence so you can get a nugget of value for your personal or professional needs. My name is Kerry Weston. I'm your host. The Glad you're here. So if you've been with me before and listened to the show before, you noticed, most likely that the name of the show has changed from the ChatGPT experiment to the Amazing Intern. And I just wanted to spend a minute to explain why. The podcast three years ago really was focused around me sharing my experiments and my experiences and kind of guiding and coaching the same way I did with my clients, in the same way I did with my employees. And it was singularly focused around the use of ChatGPT, which was the predominant tool of the time. And certainly that has changed over the past, certainly three years. But, you know, the last year or two, specifically as, as more tools come out and as. As more advancements are made. But, you know, the important thing here, as I've said many times on the show, is the lessons that I share. Their principles and their frameworks are not geared specifically to one tool. They are evergreen. They are mindsets. And so whether you're using CHAT or Claude or Gemini or others, the mindsets and the approaches that I teach are really relevant to them all. So I thought it fitting that we retire the chatgpt side of it and move to a more relevant name, a more fitting name which really matches what I've been doing for some time. Anyway, so the Amazing Intern, that's my acronym for AI, is the name of the show moving forward. And again, I'm glad you're here. So the first show under that label has Ryan Thompson. He's my guest today. He's from Colorado. Now, Ryan has an interesting situation. Like you, Ryan was curious about Chat GPT and as you're going to hear him say, one of the best teachers of AI is AI itself. And so he spent a lot of time asking, I wonder if. And what would happen if. And he went from basically a tool that he was using, writing a blog, right? Helping him write, like many of us have done, to building a series of automated agents that now work on his behalf 24 7, finding prospects and communicating with partners and building systems to help him be tremendously efficient in his business. But what you're also going to hear is Ryan is an avid outdoors person and likes to explore and has used both the knowledge that he's found in AI and the time that he's saving using AI to build some tools that allows him to find more ways of exploring his personal passions. And he's building things that you're going to hear about. And you'll see the address in the show notes. He's building a tool to help others do the same. And so one of the things that I wanted to share with you during the conversation, we're Gonna hit upon seven or eight key themes that I've talked about on the show before. And so what I thought I'd do in the show notes, I have eight episodes that specifically go deeper into the I say topics or things that we're talking about with Ryan. So if you want to dig in, we've got things like how to use projects, how to have AI write like me, how to talk to it like a human. Does it feel like we're cheating, how to use voice conversations, how to have two way conversations starting with one specific thing to get more familiar. All of those themes are episodes that I have dug into deeper in the past. So I have put those themes and the links to those episodes in the show notes for you. Okay. The website for the show moving forward is Amazing Intern AI, Amazing Internet. And you'll see the archive of episodes, my training information, articles, and how to connect with me. I'd love to hear, by the way, just like Ryan did, if you've got a story that you think would be interesting for the show, please reach out. I'd love to. I'd love to hear about it and maybe even get you on the show. Right? Amazing Intern AI. Now, the closing thought here is curiosity is still the best attribute to you finding any value in whatever AI tool you're using. Okay, so I'm going to share my conversation now with Ryan Thompson. But until we talk again, do stay curious. Okay, Bye.
- [06:16]
T-Mobile Advertiser
Bye.
- [06:18]
Kerry Weston
Hey, Ryan, welcome to the show, man.
- [06:20]
Ryan Thompson
Yeah, thanks for having me on.
- [06:22]
Kerry Weston
Hey, listen, I want folks to listen through a lens of understanding. So can you just give just a short who are you, what are you doing and who are you doing it for these days?
- [06:32]
Ryan Thompson
Yeah, of course, Yeah. I am a real estate business owner and I stumbled on, on AI and all of its powers a couple of years ago to write blogs. And I've, I've slowly scaled up my abilities and with that we've got a whole team of real estate agents that I run. We help people get into 2 and 3% interest rate mortgages. That's our whole business as real estate agents. We're the assumable guy. But my, my, my passion is right now is improving my business with the use of AI and building some fun, fun side projects. I'm an ideas guy. I really like coming up with ideas and AI has given me the power to build those. So. Pretty excited time to open business.
- [07:18]
Kerry Weston
When we were catching up the beginning, you mentioned that you recently just went to Wyoming to get away for a few days during a holiday, right?
- [07:25]
Ryan Thompson
Yep.
- [07:26]
Kerry Weston
I was In Jackson Hole, Wyoming, the first time I saw Chat GBT at all, someone put. Did a presentation at a conference that I was at and they, they turned it on. And I don't know if you're a cartoon guy, the old 80s or 90s cartoons, but there's that aruga sound, like the old fashioned car horn that just kind of blares out. So when I saw Chat GPT in front of me, my head just went aruga, right? It was just, it was going. I had to dive in. This is unlike anything I'd ever seen. And I just got addicted on day one and knew I had to learn it. Can you, do you have. Do you remember when you first kind of got introduced to anything that had this kind of capability?
- [08:04]
Ryan Thompson
Yeah, I mean, that might be like, that might be a natural response to this because, you know, you do these hand motion. That was literally what I was doing walking around my house when I first used ChatGPT to write a blog, like three years ago. And I, I, you know, gave it the prompt and what I wanted. It was like such a basic prompt with very little detail, something for my real estate business. And it just like, it eroded beautifully. And I just walked around the house with my mind blown. I was kind of going, this is blowing my mind. And that was the first time. And then I think I was like, okay, well, I want a blog for my website, right? 10, here's the topics. And it like started writing all of them. And then I just walked around the house doing the same thing. And so I've continued to have those moments over the last, over the last three years where it just keeps progressing so fast. But that was, that was my first experience.
- [09:03]
Kerry Weston
That's awesome. It's awesome. You could recall it just like that, by the way, because that's, it was like one of those moments in time, right, where, like, I didn't know this was possible. Ryan, one of the most frequent questions that I get from folks that listen to the show or see me present or whatever is counter to what you just said, which was they don't want AI to write for them because they have the belief that it's going to make things up, right? So the number one question I get is, even if I do, how do I get AI to write like me, right? How do I get them to feel like it's authentic? How do I get it to feel like it knows my style and my flow? How did you dig into that?
- [09:42]
Ryan Thompson
Yeah, well, I mean, at first I was playing around with like, giving it a ton of Context on how I wrote. I had read some blogs, I had written emails, I had lots of communication with clients and I gave all the stuff I'd written to it and said, hey, I want you to like, kind of write like me. And it, it did an okay job three years ago, but now it's gotten so good and so intelligent that I have, you know, stop me if I'm getting too into the weeds here, but when you use Chat GPT or use Claude AI, you can actually separate it into different projects and in that project you can have a voice profile. And so I gave it again recently all of my emails, all of my blogs, anything that I had written, real estate related or not. And I said, create a voice profile for me. I took some transcripts from calls that I had recorded, I said, use all of this, create a voice for me. And it took it on. It said, here, when you talk to people, here's how you talk. You're this kind of person, you're an explainer, you use math, you, whatever. And it did that for phone calls. You're very direct. You answer the question and you give reasons why when you write, you're like this, when you text, you're short, you're like this. And it created this voice profile for me and then it took concrete examples from all the context context I gave it and it created that voice profile and then I've saved that voice profile in the system and said, you know, now, now whenever it writes, I say use my voice profile when you write and it writes and it sounds like me. And so now it's replying to emails on my behalf and it's when I say write a blog, it pulls that voice profile and it writes in my language and saves tremendous amount of time and writes an A or a B level blog. And then I can quickly proofread it and make sure it's not hallucinating. And to the hallucination point, like that's, I think they've done a really good job cutting down on that problem. And so when I hear people say it just doesn't sound like me and it uses M dashes and it hallucinates, it's like my thought is you just haven't spent enough time training it to like sound like you and do the job like you want it to. And it's very trainable. Right?
- [12:16]
Kerry Weston
So you just opened the door because I, I know the punchline to where we're going, but I haven't shared any of it here. I talk about here all the time. AI, the Acronym for me stands for the Amazing Intern, which is a very approachable, capable, expandable person. Theoretically, that can bring tremendous value to your day. If you can train it and teach it and steer it and guide it. Right. It can do some amazing things. It's probably safe to say that your business is operating, running, growing, prospering, because you've taken the time to do that, right?
- [12:55]
Ryan Thompson
Yeah, absolutely.
- [12:57]
Kerry Weston
And can you just give a big picture? Because I've said that now. So let's share this. The big picture kind of. What is the punchline for where you're at right now?
- [13:06]
T-Mobile Advertiser
Your.
- [13:07]
Kerry Weston
Your business right now is utilizing the Amazing Intern for. Just, just give a sample of the things that your business is actually relying on those interns for.
- [13:16]
Ryan Thompson
Yeah, I am. I'm doing it, using it in so many ways for my business. And I, I summarize it for people with this of like, I've had ideas that I wanted to implement for years that I can now get done in hours. And so I've got this backlog of ideas that come to me and things I want to build, and it would have. It would take me a couple years to get it done, and I've now gotten it all done in months. And so you want, like, concrete examples of how I'm using.
- [13:51]
Kerry Weston
I would like, so somebody that would ask you, like, I don't understand what AI can do outside of write some recipes, maybe write a blog, and do a few things that I've heard people do. So when you shared with me what you're doing, honestly, I was highly impressed and blown away by the level of things you have going. But if you could just give a sample of what those employees are doing for you. And then when I say employees, I mean the AI tools you got going. Just give a sample as to what they're doing these days.
- [14:23]
Ryan Thompson
Yeah, yeah, I've got it. I've got an AI. I used AI in the chatbot and I talked to it, and it's a, you know, extremely patient tutor that can teach me anything. And then I've got actual agents that are doing things on my behalf autonomously. I have a whole website that it's created for me just by vibe coding, talking to it in English, saying, here's what I want my website to do, here's where I want it. I want it to generate leads. I want those leads to flow into my CRM. And it just either set all that up for me or like, walked me through, step by step, how to do it if it couldn't do it automatically. So it did all of that. I have it. I'm trying to do some agent, real estate agent recruiting for me. And so it will go out and it will look at all the real estate agents in the market I want to be in. It will score them, if they score high enough as a good fit for my team, it will do research on them and send a very custom email that references something specific about them and asks if they're interested in joining the team. We went from generating sort of 10, 15 leads a week organically to having meta ads set up and PPC ads set up. And those are. I don't know if you've never done it before. It's kind of complicated. And I paid people before. Just haven't found a great marketing person that can do that well. And it walked me through how to do it. It answered all my questions. I took a screenshot each step of the way and said, how do I do this? And it told me what to, what to do. And so now we're generating a hundred
- [15:59]
Kerry Weston
leads a week and a lead for you. So let's just. Because you just talked about recruiting agents to work for you, are the leads you're talking about, are these agent leads or is this something else?
- [16:09]
Ryan Thompson
Well, so we're generating some agent leads and it helped me walk that through. But when I say leads, I mean buyer and seller leads for our real estate.
- [16:16]
Kerry Weston
For your. For the houses and properties that you're selling.
- [16:18]
Ryan Thompson
Okay, that's right.
- [16:19]
Kerry Weston
Yep. Okay, good. So you've got, you've got the, the website and you called it vibe coding, which if anyone hasn't been there, you're literally just talking to it and you're explaining what you want the website to do, how you want it to look like. And it's basically to a point now where it can build the code, where you just have to put the code somewhere. Right. And you've got this site with functionality and it's, it's really, really straightforward and simple. People don't understand at times, and maybe you've met them too, just how crazy easy it is now to do, quote, unquote, programming. The things that used to think, I need a software engineer or I need a coder or I need these people here. You can literally use English, have a conversation, and it produces this thing that is highly usable. That's your experience.
- [17:07]
Ryan Thompson
Yeah, yeah. And you just use AI to teach you how to use AI. Like you, you just use it. You, you say, hey, I, I have this idea of what I want to do. How can I do it and it will walk you through how to do it and how to set it up or just do it for you. And so yeah, these are all things that I did not understand, never thought I'd be able to do. And I'm, I'm just asking it to walk me through, like I'm 10 how to do it. Like that's a great prompt. Hey, I don't understand that. Can you break it down for me? Like I'm 10 y an analogy. And so you, you can learn anything if you just chat to it like you would a really intelligent human.
- [17:54]
Kerry Weston
And it's so simple that it's hard. Meaning I'm not supposed to be able to do that. That's what people think. Like I'm not supposed to be able to do that. Therefore it's not possible. So it has to be harder than that. Right. And that freezes a lot of people, that there's a lot of frozenness there. Right?
- [18:11]
Ryan Thompson
Yeah. It's a weird feeling. It's a really weird feeling to be like, I just did a tremendous amount of high level valuable work in minutes. It used to take me hours or days to do this or I had to hire it or I'd hire it. Therefore it must not be quality. Because I'm trained to think and understand that quality work takes a ton of time and a ton of brain power. And this just got done. So it can't be quality. And I think that's a real. I think you're right. Like frozen. I mean that's a real trap and it's a new paradigm, a new way of thinking about how to work with these tools is you can create quality work very quickly. And so the, the misconception that because it was quick, because it was easy, it must not be quality, it must not be good, it must not be usable is just. It's not true.
- [19:14]
Kerry Weston
It feels like it might be cheating. It does feel like we've come.
- [19:19]
Ryan Thompson
Yeah, it does. It feels like it's cheating. It feels like it's too good to be true. It feels like, oh, I can't, I can't do this much quality work or grow my business this fast. Something, something's going to give. Something must be wrong here.
- [19:35]
Kerry Weston
So you mentioned a couple of things and if anyone listening. So I have a lot of folks that listen that are either small business owners or self employed entrepreneurs and they suffer from the same things that I suffer from. Maybe you did too, which was as a company of one, as kind of a solopreneur at some point it's lonely. And you miss the exchanges. You miss the brainstorming, you miss kind of the back and forth, the. Can you check this? What do you think on that? Can I get some feedback? And the AI is kind of steps in for those that recognize it's there, where there's bouncing ideas and brainstorming and validation and objectivity and all that kind of stuff. Right. And I'm going to share. So as people are listening, I'm making notes and I'm going to put individual episodes in the show, notes that cover these individual topics that Ryan and I are talking about. So you can dig in a little bit more. I'm up to six or seven other episodes that I'm going to link here, so there's going to be a bunch of them here. But you have done some really complex stuff. So we heard you talk about ppc and if folks aren't familiar with that acronym where basically, if you ever have ever seen a Google Ad or a Facebook ad, or if you've ever been on a platform and there's an ad in front of you, you're basically ppc, Pay to click, pay per click. If you click on that ad, it charges the advertiser money. But they are highly selective, or at least supposed to be highly selective in terms of who is seeing those ads. So you can get really focused. So what Ryan's talking about is sometimes it gets really hard to put these campaigns together because the software is not always easy to use. And so you were talking about doing something complex that usually required an outside firm or specialist or an employee. And you were just taking screenshots and talking to it. And it's walking you through that to the point where you executed it. And this wasn't your background.
- [21:28]
Ryan Thompson
No. Yeah.
- [21:30]
Kerry Weston
And that audience is bringing in those ads, are bringing in leads for your business.
- [21:35]
Ryan Thompson
Yep.
- [21:36]
Kerry Weston
Which are looking at the website that you built with AI.
- [21:40]
Ryan Thompson
Yep.
- [21:40]
Kerry Weston
Right. And it's sending out for those that are relevant because you've taught it who's relevant. Right. And who's good. It's sending out messages to them automatically. Right. That you've trained it to do.
- [21:56]
Ryan Thompson
Right.
- [21:56]
Kerry Weston
Which sets up meetings, which sets up opportunity. So you've got this whole ecosystem. Did that happen overnight?
- [22:03]
Ryan Thompson
No.
- [22:04]
Kerry Weston
Okay.
- [22:05]
Ryan Thompson
Yeah.
- [22:06]
Kerry Weston
Like how long have you been at that?
- [22:09]
Ryan Thompson
You know, I've been writing blogs on chat GPT for three years now. Right. Like, you know, using it to write things. I got really into the new agentic version of AI meaning like it's doing work on your behalf, your program, and that in January of this year.
- [22:31]
Kerry Weston
Okay. So just for the reference, it's July 7th of this year. So you really got into this about six, seven months ago.
- [22:37]
Ryan Thompson
Yeah.
- [22:38]
Kerry Weston
Okay.
- [22:39]
Ryan Thompson
Yeah. In a whole new way. Yeah. For me, it sort of felt like chat GPT and that stuff was, it was good for writing. They started to like be able to use your browser and maybe make a dinner reservation. Right. Like I was playing around with that. But it felt like there was this huge leap forward seven months ago where I started to have this like, you know, mind blowing experience again. Now every month I have a new mind blowing experience, how quickly it's moving. But yeah, I mean, it took, it took months of dedicated work of learning, of listening to podcasts, watching some YouTube videos, and again, just talking to the AI and having it teaching. Had an idea of what I wanted to do.
- [23:24]
Kerry Weston
I think my favorite moments is when I have one of those breakthroughs and I'm using a lot of CLAUDE now and I'm using Cowork and I'm using some of these things, right. Desktop. And I'm like, I wonder if it can do this right? And then it does it. I'm like, okay, that's cool. I wonder if I did this and then added this. What happens? Oh, yeah, that's cool. All right. Oh, and if they can do that, maybe I can. Da, da, da. Right. For me, the hardest part is thinking about the steps, thinking about the details. Right. It's not the AI at all. It's actually laying out an understanding and a plan of what it is that I want. And sometimes that happens on the fly. But do you find that too? Like, it's the hardest part is really the manual stuff, like the, the pen and paper stuff of just thinking about what it is that you need to solve, what is it you want to do, and then trying to communicate that to somebody or something.
- [24:21]
Ryan Thompson
Yeah, yeah. I mean, yeah, it's. It's so smart and fast that like, we're the, we're the bottleneck in this process when we're working with AI because our brains think so much slower. What I do verbally, I'm, I'm, I'm a verbal processor. Like, I, I really do like to just sort of verbally process. I also like to write, but the writing just feels too slow. And so what I'll do when I'm, when I think of, you know, high level of an idea is I'll get out my Claude app on my phone and you type that little microphone, hit the microphone button, say, hey, what's up, Claude? And you Know, wait for it to respond so you actually know it's listening. Sometimes it's, there's some glitch there and you just talk with it. Hey, I got this idea. I like, I just need somebody to brainstorm with and like talk through this.
- [25:15]
Kerry Weston
So can I pause you right there for a second? Because there's two ways of using voice. So one is the dictation, right? Voice to text. But you're talking about the interactive. In this, in the moment, it's talk. You're having a two way conversation with it, correct?
- [25:26]
Ryan Thompson
Yeah, yeah. I'm not talking about, you know, Whisper Flow or any of those programs where I can just talk and it will like type the text and put it in and I can hit Enter. Like there's actually the feature on Claude as, you know, where it has the ability to hear what I'm saying and then fill in the voice and talk back to me as if it's. If it's on the other end of the phone.
- [25:47]
Kerry Weston
And what I love about that is it's also keeping a transcript, you know, in text. It will transfer that whole thing to text. Yeah. So you'll go through, you'll brainstorm. I interrupted you. So you're brainstorming.
- [25:57]
Ryan Thompson
Yeah, Let me think the other. So yesterday, one of my, so one of my side projects I just decided I want to do is. It's like my birthday was yesterday. I just turned 36 and I'm like, you know what? Like, I, I want to be even healthier, even happier. Like, how can I leverage AI to do that? I just came back from a week in the mountains. I loved being unplugged. Like away from work, away from text, away from AI. It was so good. How can I make sure that if I'm going to use AI that I don't just become an AI zombie. Like, I actually leverage it to make my life happier and healthier. So I went on a walk and I said, you know, hey, I really want to make this, this app. I want to be healthier, I want to be happier. I want it to be research backed. I wanted to. And I just spitball all the ideas I had on, like, what I want it to help me create so that it can give me meal plans that work with me and my health and my blood work and my knee problem and the inflammation I have. And like, you know, I want it to be customized to me. And so I gave it a bunch of blood work and I told it like, hey, I want to give you my health data. Right. Which, you know, you may or may not be comfortable with, but like, at this point I am. And the upsides are worth the worst for me. And so it's like, here's, here's what I'm, here's what I want. Like, where am I thinking about this wrong is what can we do to make this happen? What are your. And it, it'll ask me questions back or give me ideas, and then it's literally just this conversation back and forth. And then at the end of that I say, give me a prompt that I can put into Claude as I talk to it in the browser or Claude code to help program something. Right. And I, I might be getting too into the weeds here, but no, you're doing. My flow is just having a conversation with it because that's how I verbally process and think through all the ideas. And what's really awesome about that is I'm thinking through it and at the same time the app is getting all the context it needs to help help me build it and to help build it for me. And so that's, that's usually where my, my ideas start and then brainstorming to build. And so that's how, that's how my flow goes.
- [28:15]
Kerry Weston
All right, so let me back up so I can see if I heard you correctly. And I, and I always, I do get accused of oversimplifying, but I do that on purpose. So you are thinking about a problem or a goal or situation. You don't have the answers yet. And so one of the things that you find value is, is just getting that out of your head. And it could be circus music. Nothing's in chronological, logical order. It could just be all over the place and the tool you happen to use, Claude. But this, any, any of these tools will do the same thing. It takes that information and organizes it in a meaningful way, but it also analyzes it in a meaningful way, creates a two way stream of communication to you and allows you to make sense of the circus music, make sense of the chaos, while it's also absorbing it because this is part of its memory and allows you to move forward with something that when you first hit record, you maybe didn't have any idea of what that was going to look like. But it's walking you through again, super easy. And it feels like it shouldn't be this easy, but it's walking you through almost validation. It's doing what I'm doing to you. I think I'm hearing this. Maybe we should do this. Maybe we could do this. And by the Time you're done. Yeah, that's exactly what I need.
- [29:30]
Ryan Thompson
Yes, exactly.
- [29:33]
Kerry Weston
Yeah. It's the point I want to hit on here because it does get overwhelming for folks that are standing on the edge looking over and wondering if they should jump.
- [29:43]
Ryan Thompson
Right.
- [29:43]
Kerry Weston
Because they don't trust it or they don't know enough about it, or they've read a lot of social media posts and people are negative towards it. So, and I'm just talking about AI as a whole, and so there's a lowercase C. There's some courage it takes to dive in for some people. There's, there's that mindset you mentioned. You said I'm all in.
- [29:58]
Ryan Thompson
Right.
- [29:59]
Kerry Weston
I mean, there's like, I'm giving my data, I'm going to make this all, you know, as positive and, and as meaningful to my life as possible. And there's a lot of people that are still looking in that window and haven't opened that door yet, which is understandable. And one of the things that you just illustrated so perfectly is you don't have to learn everything. You don't have to know everything. Just start with one need, one goal, one question, one problem, and just go from there. Because in the process of what you just said, by talking about it and asking it if it can help me with this one problem, you're learning how it becomes valuable. You're learning how it interacts and you're learning how what you say helps or hurts the process moving forward, which hopefully allows you to, I call it the idea treadmill. If I can get value out of this one thing, what else can I get value out of? Right? I mean, essentially that's what you're doing is you're, you're using this as a problem solver even though you don't know the end game at the moment.
- [30:57]
Ryan Thompson
Yeah, yeah. And I'd say for your small business owners, right, like pick, pick something that you really know is important but you have not taken the time to do because you're too busy. But you like, know that it's going to be valuable and try and build it with AI and see what happens. And the upside is, is so valuable that it's worth taking that risk to have AI build something. Right. And start small. Right. Like you said, like start with something that maybe is not gonna have, not gonna be customer facing, right. We're not gonna touch your money or maybe won't even be public facing and that it's gonna hurt your image, right. If, if you're like scared of the risks. But pick a small project and, and see what it can do and build up from there. And yeah again, as you like realize what it can do, you'll be more and more inspired to, to give it new things and, and your business will grow.
- [31:57]
Kerry Weston
And I, I like your I want to be healthier, I want to have more time for this stuff analogy because there's two paths. I didn't know which path you were going to take on that one. And you chose the I'm going to go develop something to help me be happier and healthier and it became a thing. But the other path that's available to you is time. And if something that takes you nine hours a week or 10 hours a week to do now takes you 20 minutes, you've got a choice as to what to do with the remaining 9 hours and 40 minutes. Right. And that could be for yourself, could be investing in you and whatever you see valuable way of investing yourself or it could be doing other things right. That you've been putting off. So even if your goal is just to make more time for you or to spend more time being valuable or passionate or mission driven, whatever it might be, you've got all kinds of options which I'm sure you've done too. Right. You've freed yourself up to do non work stuff because of the work that you're being really efficient with.
- [32:55]
Ryan Thompson
Yeah.
- [32:56]
Kerry Weston
Yeah.
- [32:57]
Ryan Thompson
And it's got to a spot now where you know, I go on vacation for a week and it's doing work on my behalf while I'm out of self service on in the Tetons.
- [33:09]
Kerry Weston
That's pretty cool. We always, you know, there's this unicorn theory when, and maybe it's not a unicorn anymore but you know, making money while you sleep. Right. Working while you're away, that kind of for entrepreneurs. And we're basically there like if you can just talk it out and spend some time teaching somebody or it. You've got a lot of processes that can be happening while you are hiking and getting away. Yeah. What's next on your plate? Like what's, what's a, what's a goal problem solution plan that you have that you haven't tackled yet that you're looking forward to doing?
- [33:46]
Ryan Thompson
Well, I really want to build this, this health app and it's more so for me. Like I don't, there's just too much competition there. But it's, it's not synced enough with my individual data. So that's one thing I really want to build. I really value people, people getting out and like Experiencing the community and like fun things to do where they live and new experiences. Like those are things that are really fun for me. Doing new experiences with people I like is, is very fun for me. And so every week I organize with my friends, like a brew crew, try a new brewery in town and we'll go like, hang out. And so for a while, for my real estate calendar, I had all of the events going on in town and I had my VA going and looking at like eight different sites, taking the events, putting them in a Google calendar. But I've since built this amazing app with AI that is pulling in all of the fun things to do in town and putting it on one awesome website where it learns about you and how you work or like what's what, what's interesting to you and what events you like. Do you have kids or not? Do you like nightlife or not? And we'll start to customize like the events in town that you should see and be aware of. And so now people can go to this website, see that, or put it on their Google. And so that's a, that's a side project that I'm really excited is that
- [35:15]
Kerry Weston
live right now, passionate about.
- [35:17]
Ryan Thompson
Yeah, it is for Colorado Springs. Yeah.
- [35:20]
Kerry Weston
Okay, so when we're done, if you could give me a few of these URLs that folks listening, just go take a look. That'd be really cool because they love to see things that are real. That'd be awesome.
- [35:28]
Ryan Thompson
Yeah, yeah, it's happening. Happenincos.com which is Colorado Springs.
- [35:34]
Kerry Weston
So just, just that, by the way, every day at 7am and I'm getting it, I gotta move it back to 6am Because I'm getting up earlier in the summer, so I gotta make it earlier. But every day it's going out, I have ChatGPT going out through a project that I've created. And it's just curating new insights, documents that my audience, my business audience would find practical, meaningful, and can do something with. Because I always want to know what other people are saying, whether people are sharing. If it's relevant to my audience, I'll either share it or write about it. So every day I've got an assistant going out, curating stuff, giving me a summary, giving me the link, putting an insight. This is why I think it would be valuable. This is a nugget or two you might share. This is a takeaway, that kind of thing. As a parent with kids, you know, they're, they're in high school and graduated college now, but when they were younger, I would say one of the biggest challenges was just trying to keep up with what events to what could we do with the kids on a rainy day? What could we do this weekend? What could we do if friends are in town? That kind of thing. So even if somebody, you just, I mean, this is where my head was going. As a parent, you, you created a website, like, you took it a step further. But even if someone set up like an automated task that just said, hey, this week, you know, check all these sources. I have kids that are 5, 9 and 12. This is what they like to do. This is what we like to do together. You know, look a week or two ahead and just tell me what's coming. Even that would add tremendous value to somebody's life.
- [37:04]
Ryan Thompson
Yeah, yeah, agreed. You just reminded me of one other thing I think wanted to share that's really interesting is like I have it going out and researching what's going on in my real estate industry and what's going on in AI, because those are the two biggest industries that I'm focused on right now. And for me, I do a lot of bike riding and that's where I really like to listen to audiobooks and podcasts and I have it generate a podcast for me with two voices that will break down the concept and summarize it in a really interesting way. And it's awesome. It's a great way for me to learn and stay up to date on what's happening in the real estate industry and with AI and like it's never going to be a great podcast. Like I think people are going to more and more want like the human, the human aspect to it and to know that this is like a human conversation. You and I are human and not AI. But for learning at something, it's a tremendous way to fast track my learning because now I'm getting a great summary and I'm. While I'm riding my bike and so I don't have to spend extra time later reading about it. So that's, that's a fun project I'm working on and if, if that ever can go to something where I'm helping businesses or real estate agents like leverage AI more like, you know, I'm like consider myself pretty far into the the AI world and could probably add a lot of value for businesses. So that's another side project I've got on the, on the side of. But my main goal right now is grow the real estate business. And if I create enough processes with AI to like license it to other Real estate agents and just kind of have them have a plug and play AI system that probably focuses on assumable mortgages, since that's such a. That's such a niche. To combine a niche with the power of AI is really advantageous.
- [38:59]
Kerry Weston
Well, you've just reminded me I have actually haven't proven that you're not a robot. So I'm going to hold up a grid of 9. 9 photos. Can you pick out the bicycles for me? I want to prove that you're human.
- [39:10]
Ryan Thompson
I thought. I thought you were serious for a second.
- [39:15]
Kerry Weston
No. There's no better way of telling if you're a human or a robot than picking out the benches or the buses in the pictures I'm about to show you. Right?
- [39:22]
Ryan Thompson
Yeah.
- [39:23]
Kerry Weston
Hey, Ryan, if somebody wanted to just take a look at what you're doing business wise or connect with you in some way, how do we do that?
- [39:31]
Ryan Thompson
Yeah, the best. The. The best way where I'm all over the place is the assumable guy. So if you search the assumable guy as an assumable mortgage, that's our real estate team. You can find my contact info all over that assumableguy.com. the assumable guy on social medias. Yeah. Ryan Thompson on LinkedIn. No, P and Thompson. Those are. Those are the best spots, but I look at all those.
- [39:58]
Kerry Weston
Cool. And what was the Colorado Springs URL again? For the what to do happening.
- [40:04]
Ryan Thompson
Like without the G. So what's happening co S as in color Springs dot com.
- [40:11]
Kerry Weston
H A P P E N I N C O S. Yep, exactly. I'll put it up as well. Put all this in the show notes, but really appreciate you just sharing some perspective and really impressed with what's going on and what you're doing. So thank you. I know there's gonna be a lot of value from the folks listening to this one.
- [40:28]
Ryan Thompson
Yeah, I hope so. Yeah. You're welcome. Carrie, good talking to you.
- [40:37]
Kerry Weston
Awkward time to ask this, but. Hey, did you download the trail map?
- [40:41]
T-Mobile Advertiser
Yeah.
- [40:41]
Ryan Thompson
No, I don't need to.
- [40:43]
T-Mobile Advertiser
I don't understand. You're trusting your signal out here?
- [40:45]
Ryan Thompson
I'm trusting T Mobile. They have the best network. And if we end up in bumtots nowhere, well, we've got T satellite for backup. Whoa.
- [40:51]
Kerry Weston
I don't trust my carrier that much.
- [40:54]
Ryan Thompson
We'll just use your phone as a flashlight.
- [40:57]
T-Mobile Advertiser
With America's best network and T satellite, we're keeping you connected in places you never thought possible. And if you switch today, you get free phones for zero down and only 25 bucks a month per line for four lines. Find out more@t mobile.com or visit your local store. Best Mobile Network Based on analysis by Ooklib speed test intelligence data 2H 2025 with 24 monthly bill credits and 4 eligible port ins on essentials for well qualified customers with autopay plus taxes, fees and $35 connection charge per line credits and imbalance due if you pay off earlier. Cancel Contact Us Finance Agreement example 299.99 Moto Edge 5G required T Satellite Available with compatible device in most outdoor areas in the US where you can see the sky. Included with experience beyond. $10 a month. Autover News Monthly cancel anytime. Visit t mobile.com.