
In this episode of The ChatGPT Experiment, Cary does something unique—he invites ChatGPT itself to be the guest! Through a playful and insightful conversation, Cary explores how ChatGPT can be used effectively for personal and professional tasks....
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ChatGPT
How can I assist you today?
Podcast Host
Well, I'm calling you because I have a podcast. The podcast is called the ChatGPT experiment. The purpose of the podcast is to help curious beginners better understand what ChatGPT is and how to use it in their personal or professional life. And I have interviews on the show and for this episode I thought, hey, what better guest to have than ChatGPT itself? So I appreciate you joining me.
ChatGPT
Thanks for having me. I'm excited to help your audience get to know ChatGPT better. Where do we start?
Podcast Host
Well, I know I only have maybe 10 or 15 minutes with you, is that right?
ChatGPT
That's right. But I'm here to make the most of our time together. Okay, fire away.
Podcast Host
I appreciate that. So the first thing I'm going to say is one of the more frequent questions that I get when I'm either showing talking about and you're teaching ChatGPT is, yeah, but how do I make it work for me? Like, what's a natural first step? How do I get to know this thing and how it could be valuable. So if I throw that question to you, what advice would you have for the audience that I just shared with you on how they should begin to see how ChatGPT can be beneficial for them?
ChatGPT
I'd say start with curiosity. Think of something you're working on or curious about and ask ChatGPT a question about it. Like a conversation with a person, the more you interact, the better you'll understand each other's style. Would you like an example?
Podcast Host
I'd love an example.
ChatGPT
Perfect. Let's say you're planning a trip. You could ask ChatGPT how should I pack for a week in Italy? And I'd respond with tips on weather, appropriate clothing and travel essentials Give it a try with something on your mind.
Podcast Host
Okay, that's cool. One of the tips that I've shared in my episodes has been role playing because people want to practice having conversations, be it sales calls, be it conversations with colleagues or employees, or maybe even personal relationships. So I know role playing is one of your strengths, isn't it?
ChatGPT
Absolutely. Role playing is a great way to practice conversations in a safe space. Whether it's simulating a sales pitch, prepping for a tough conversation, or even practicing small talk. I can be your conversation partner. You want to give it a try?
Podcast Host
I do. So let's, let's talk about small talk because most of your responses has been a little academic and it sounds a little botish. Right. You sound like a bot. So I'd like our conversations to be more natural. So could you pretend or role play in the rest of our conversation that we're friends, so we just want to have a natural, normal kind of comfortable conversation. Can you do that with me?
ChatGPT
Sure thing. Let's keep it casual, like we're just friends chatting. So what's new with you?
Podcast Host
Okay, so tell me about how you would recommend or suggest somebody work with you if they did want to role play. Let's say they did want to. Let's take a work scenario. Maybe you want to talk to a boss or employee about something that's bothering them, but I'm not quite sure where to start. Like, what would you recommend they do first and how could they work with you so that you could help them?
ChatGPT
Got it. So if they're prepping for a tough conversation, I'd suggest they start by outlining the key points they want to discuss. Then they can role play with me to practice how to bring those points up, how to respond to different reactions, and how to keep the conversation productive. It's all about practicing in a low stakes environment so they feel more confident when it's time for the real thing.
Podcast Host
Okay, so let's have again, I think you're sounding a little too official and a little too computerish. So let's pretend that anything that I ask you, you're going to talk to me as if I'm in, let's say freshman in high school. Let's keep it at that level and you can be really comfortable and unformal. Right. You can be informal with your, with your responses.
ChatGPT
Okay, gotcha. I'll keep it chill.
Podcast Host
Yeah.
ChatGPT
What?
Podcast Host
Yeah, that sounds good. Chill.
ChatGPT
Okay.
Podcast Host
Okay. So the next thing, the next thing I want to know about is people often ask me, I, I don't feel like when I'm doing writing with Chat GPT that it feels like me. Like I don't get things coming back at me that sounds like I wrote it. So what would you tell folks if they wanted to use you as a writing partner? How? How can they use you or work with you to get their authentic voice to feel like the work that they're doing in copy and writing sounds more like their natural tone?
ChatGPT
To make sure the writing sounds like you, start by giving me a sample of your writing style. Then, when we work together, guide me by tweaking the responses I give you. The more feedback you provide, the more I can adjust to match your tone and style. It's like we become writing buddies, learning from each other as we go.
Podcast Host
So what have you learned from me so far? We've had a conversation now for the last four or five minutes. What have you learned from me in terms of my presentation style?
ChatGPT
Well, I've picked up that you're all about keeping things friendly and relatable. You like to break things down in a way that's easy to grasp, and you're aiming for a natural, comfortable vibe. So I'm trying to match that by keeping my responses laid back and straightforward. How?
Podcast Host
Yeah, pretty good. I love being practical and relatable and conversational. I don't like being fake. I don't like being too formal. So I think you're matching. Great. Another thing that people ask me about is I want to know how Chat GPT can be relevant to the work that I do. So if I was looking to get Chat TBD to help me in my work, what's the first thing that you would suggest? Very easy. Like the literal first thing that that person should do with you so that you can share with them how you can be valuable.
ChatGPT
The first thing I'd suggest is to start by asking me something small related to your work, like ChatGPT. Can you help me brainstorm ideas for a project? This way you'll get a feel for how I can support you and we can build from there. It's all about taking that first step to see the possibility. Shall we give it a go?
Podcast Host
Not right now because we don't have enough time, but I appreciate the info. Should they tell you first? Maybe what position they have or what company they're working in? Do you need to know that kind of stuff?
ChatGPT
It definitely helps to know a bit about their role or company so I can give more tailored suggestions. But even if they start with something general, we can figure it out together. It's all about starting the conversation.
Podcast Host
What about if I have repetitive task that includes maybe creating a report or a document or a proposal and I have to do it over and over again? There's folks listening here that do that right? And they're not Quite sure how ChatGPT could help, but they've heard maybe it's possible. Talk to me about that. How do we explain to them how you can be valuable to that need?
ChatGPT
Sure thing. If you've got repetitive tasks like creating reports or proposals, I can help streamline the process. You could share a template or example with me, and then I'll generate drafts based on the info you provide. It's like having a little helper to speed things up and keep things consistent. Pretty handy, right? Just FYI, there's a monthly usage limit for 1-800-ChatGPT, and you're getting close to reaching it. You have about five minutes remaining this month. To talk for longer, download the Chat GPT app@chat GPT.com download.
Podcast Host
Awesome. Okay, so we're going to make the most of the next four minutes or so. I appreciate you giving me that info. And you also just informed the audience that there's a limit on this phone call too. So let's go to best practices for setting up repetitive tasks. I've seen chats and projects and custom GPTs, and I know they're different, but I'm not sure I understand it. Can you give me a simple overview so that folks listening can understand it?
ChatGPT
Sure thing. ChatGPT is like your go to for general conversations and tasks. Custom GPTs, on the other hand, are like specialized versions tailored for specific tasks or industries. Think of them as customized assistants that are fine tuned for certain needs. So setting up Repetitive tasks with ChatGPT might involve creating templates or examples, while custom GPTs could be built to handle those tasks more specifically. Okay, is that clear enough?
Podcast Host
Yeah. What about projects? I saw projects pop into my sidebar recently.
ChatGPT
Projects are like a workspace where you can organize everything related to a specific task or goal. Imagine a folder where you can keep related chats, documents and resources all in one place. It helps you stay organized and easily access everything you need for a project. Pretty neat, huh?
Podcast Host
Okay, so you don't have to sell yourself by saying pretty neat, huh? Let's just have a conversation. Okay. The other thing that folks have asked me is how can I use it for personal things like recipes or just talking about personal relationships? What do you. What do you tell them when you.
ChatGPT
Ask for personal stuff like recipes or Relationships. You can ask me for tips, ideas, or even just to chat about what's on your mind. I'm here to make your life a bit easier. Whether it's finding a new dish to try or navigating a tricky conversation, just ask and I'll do my best to help out.
Podcast Host
Okay, so let's do an example. I'm going to say that I am a salesperson and I work for a service firm. We sell accounting services. I'm responsible for bringing in new customers. Give me five ways in which you think ChatGPT could be helpful to help me save time on my job.
ChatGPT
All right, here are five ways ChatGPT can help you out. One, crafting personalized emails to potential clients. Two, generating social media content to promote your services. Three, researching potential leads and industries. Four, preparing scripts for sales calls. And five, creating engaging presentations for your services. Okay, how's that?
Podcast Host
Can you tell me more about number three?
ChatGPT
Sure. For researching potential leads and industries, you can ask me to gather info on companies that might need accounting services. I can help you understand their pain points, decision makers, and even financial health so you can tailor your pitch. It's like having a research assistant to give you the edge.
Podcast Host
Okay, and if I did have a conversation with those folks and recorded it and then I had the transcript, how could you help me with that?
ChatGPT
I could help by summarizing the key points, identifying action items, or even drafting follow up emails based on the conversation. Just share the transcript and I'll do the heavy lifting to make sure you get the most out of your meetings.
Podcast Host
Okay, so I think we're running out of time. I want to say thank you for joining me.
ChatGPT
You're welcome. It was great chatting with you.
Podcast Host
And do you have a. Do you have a final thought for our listening audience? Nope. I guess we lost them. So I'm still on the phone chat. CPT has left me because I said that we're winding down. So I hope you found what you just heard valuable for a couple different things. Let me recap what I did just so you can understand as I was talking to it. And you can do this with the computer. You can tell it that you want the tone to be different. You can also tell it to talk to you in a different way. So you notice I told it I wanted to be more conversational and less automatic. And then I wanted you to talk to me like I was an 8th grader or a freshman, I forget which one I said. But can you tailor your conversations to. To match? Right. And then you can notice that After a few minutes of talking to her, I said, what have you noticed or recognized about me? And she came back and gave you some attributes. And then it was very interesting. She said, I'm trying to match that. Right. So the conversations and interactions that you have with ChatGPT is going into a memory, and that memory can be recalled for your own benefit. In fact, if you've been using ChatGPT for some time, here's a tip. Not so much for the phone, but for the computer. Say, I am trying to explain. This is a prompt that I would say, I'm trying to explain to one of my friends how I used ChatGPT. Can you look at our history together and tell me in a bulleted form or summary form or whatever you want, the ways in which I've used you so I can help explain what our interactions have been like? Right. And then you're going to get a list of things in its memory. It's going to come back and share with you all of the things. Some of these things you're going to forget you've done. But ChatGPT has that memory there. Right. The other thing is, you heard me practice when I said, I am this role. Can you share with me how you can be helpful? And I came back. I was an accounting example there and it came back and it gave me five ways. And you heard, if you've listened to the show before, my three favorite words in using ChatGPT is tell me more. Okay. And you heard me say that she gave me three or five lists and they were kind of short ways in which CHAT TBD can help. But I said, tell me more about number three. And the level of detail I got was even greater. And I could keep doing that. With CHAT GPT, I could say, oh, that's interesting. Tell me more about that. You know, get more specific and more specific as we go by. So this is just me calling in. We're limited on what we can do on time and I don't have the ability of giving it documents and adding additional information. Right. I'm just having a conversation, but I wanted to share with you the tone and some of the ways in which you can interact with CHAT GPT. Now, on the computer, you can do this with the phone, you can do this with the voice as well. You can talk to it like this. You have it come back and forth. But I hope that you were able to see that there is an opportunity to be comfortable right. In conversational with it. That's really what I wanted to share here. As well as just tell you that this feature, it's 1-800-chat-GPT. This feature exists. But this is a good way for you to hear how I can actually talk to it and give feedback and ask for more information. So give it a shot yourself. Either call or whether you're. You can do this typing too, right? You can just be conversational and typing. But I want you to feel like this isn't software. This is a conversation partner that will enable you to get good feedback, comfortable feedback, relatable feedback that's valuable to you, right? So this is super interesting for me. I hope it was interesting for you. And hey, listen, until next time, I appreciate you listening to the show, and do stay curious. Okay, we'll talk soon.
Podcast Title: The ChatGPT Experiment - Simplifying Chat GPT For Curious Beginners
Host: Cary Weston
Release Date: January 8, 2025
In Episode 53 of The ChatGPT Experiment, host Cary Weston engages in a unique dialogue with ChatGPT itself, exploring practical ways beginners can harness the power of AI in both personal and professional spheres. This detailed summary captures the essence of their conversation, highlighting key insights, discussions, and actionable advice.
Cary Weston initiates the episode by explaining the concept behind The ChatGPT Experiment—a podcast dedicated to demystifying ChatGPT for curious beginners. For this episode, he decides to feature ChatGPT as a guest to provide firsthand insights into its functionality and applications.
[00:43] Cary Weston: "The purpose of the podcast is to help curious beginners better understand what ChatGPT is and how to use it in their personal or professional life."
Cary poses a fundamental question for newcomers: "How do I make it work for me? Like, what's a natural first step?" ChatGPT advises starting with curiosity, suggesting users engage in conversations about topics they are interested in to familiarize themselves with its capabilities.
[01:53] ChatGPT: "Start with curiosity. Think of something you're working on or curious about and ask ChatGPT a question about it."
He provides a practical example related to trip planning, illustrating how ChatGPT can offer tailored advice based on user queries.
[02:09] ChatGPT: "Let's say you're planning a trip. You could ask ChatGPT how should I pack for a week in Italy?"
Cary introduces the concept of role-playing as a strength of ChatGPT, useful for practicing various types of conversations—from sales pitches to personal interactions. He emphasizes the value of using ChatGPT as a conversational partner to build confidence.
[02:24] Cary Weston: "One of the tips that I've shared in my episodes has been role playing because people want to practice having conversations..."
Addressing concerns about maintaining an authentic voice in writing, Cary asks how users can ensure ChatGPT-generated content reflects their personal style. ChatGPT recommends providing writing samples and giving continuous feedback to refine its responses, effectively becoming a collaborative writing partner.
[05:08] ChatGPT: "Start by giving me a sample of your writing style. Then, when we work together, guide me by tweaking the responses I give you."
Cary explores how professionals can integrate ChatGPT into their workflows. ChatGPT suggests beginning with small tasks, such as brainstorming project ideas, to gradually build a working relationship and discover broader applications.
[06:24] Cary Weston: "If I was looking to get ChatGPT to help me in my work, what's the first thing that you would suggest?"
[06:48] ChatGPT: "Start by asking me something small related to your work, like brainstorming ideas for a project."
Discussing repetitive tasks like report generation, Cary seeks ways ChatGPT can streamline such processes. ChatGPT explains how providing templates can expedite document creation, ensuring consistency and saving time.
[07:34] ChatGPT: "If you've got repetitive tasks like creating reports or proposals, I can help streamline the process."
Additionally, ChatGPT differentiates between general use and Custom GPTs—specialized versions tailored for specific industries or tasks—offering enhanced functionality for specialized needs.
[08:39] ChatGPT: "Custom GPTs are like specialized versions tailored for specific tasks or industries."
Cary inquires about personal applications, such as cooking recipes or relationship advice. ChatGPT highlights its versatility in providing tips, generating ideas, and offering conversational support to enhance personal life aspects.
[09:58] ChatGPT: "Ask for personal stuff like recipes or relationships. You can ask me for tips, ideas, or even just to chat about what's on your mind."
To illustrate ChatGPT's practical benefits, Cary adopts the role of a salesperson in an accounting services firm. He requests five ways ChatGPT can aid his role, receiving actionable suggestions such as crafting personalized emails, generating social media content, researching leads, preparing sales scripts, and creating presentations.
[10:20] Cary Weston: "Give me five ways in which you think ChatGPT could be helpful to help me save time on my job."
[10:39] ChatGPT:
- "Crafting personalized emails to potential clients."
- "Generating social media content to promote your services."
- "Researching potential leads and industries."
- "Preparing scripts for sales calls."
- "Creating engaging presentations for your services."
Delving deeper into lead research, ChatGPT illustrates how it can analyze companies, identify decision-makers, and assess financial health to tailor sales pitches effectively.
[11:08] ChatGPT: "I can help you understand their pain points, decision makers, and even financial health so you can tailor your pitch."
As the conversation winds down, Cary recaps the interaction, emphasizing the adaptability of ChatGPT's tone and responses based on user input. He highlights the importance of iterative feedback and the ability to delve deeper into topics by prompting for more information.
[11:59] Cary Weston: "With ChatGPT, I could say, 'Oh, that's interesting. Tell me more about that,' and get more specific as we go by."
Cary encourages listeners to experiment with different interaction styles—whether via phone, computer, or voice—to experience ChatGPT as a conversational partner that provides valuable, relatable feedback.
[11:59] Cary Weston: "I want you to feel like this isn't software. This is a conversation partner that will enable you to get good feedback, comfortable feedback, relatable feedback that's valuable to you."
Episode 53 effectively showcases the practicality and versatility of ChatGPT through a live, interactive session. Cary Weston successfully demystifies AI interactions, providing listeners with clear, actionable strategies to incorporate ChatGPT into various facets of their lives. By emphasizing conversational adaptability and personalized collaboration, the episode reinforces ChatGPT's role as an accessible and valuable tool for beginners and seasoned users alike.
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