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My brother, former governor Andrew M. Cuomo, joins me this morning. Cuomo's are early risers. He just chooses not to listen to the show because he says it bothers his ears. But I needed his expertise this morning to understand the architecture of what seems to be a political implosion. Andrew, thank you for joining us. I love you, appreciate you doing this.
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C
Love you, appreciate you, respect you, dad, be proud of you. But I don't know what you're talking about. Political implosion.
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B
So here's what I don't get. So Epstein comes back, why maga? They start selling this off the back end of Pizzagate. This crazy ass conspiracy theory about a pedophile ring in the basement of a pizzeria like in Iowa or something.
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D
Nuts.
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B
Hillary Clinton, all this nonsense. So they start talking MAGA in the pod sphere and he was murdered. And we know this and the Clintons and the deep state, and it becomes a big catalyst for maga. And they want somebody to become what Trump winds up calling himself. I am your retribution. And then he installs in the positions of power that they had no business having. Two of the main conspiracists, Kash Patel, who literally wore a T shirt that said cash with a dollar sign for the S that he would sell on the basis of him knowing there was a client list. And Dan Bongino, who had no business being at the top of the FBI, except that what he was that muscular guy who was going to go in there. They get in there and they say, yeah, we were wrong. Yeah, we were wrong. Now we start seeing these emails that are not all. You cheat. Oh, you party. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. This is dirty stuff about young women. Maybe beyond below the age of consent, maybe not, but wrong. All day long they have said nothing about why they never said anything about what's in the files. And it now seems like Trump is in a snare. I've been saying he was hoisted on his own petard. He doesn't know how to get away from this story. He keeps saying move on. More dirt keeps coming out. Now I think the DOJ is going to have to release names of these people. Politically, politically. What do you do in this situation if you're him?
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C
Yeah. First hoisted on your own petard is a good expression. I don't think anybody knows what it means.
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B
I explained it.
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C
Give me one. But your basic point is right, look, this has metastasized on them. It started as a MAGA issue, a Trump issue against the Clintons, against those in power. Now it is something bigger and it has enveloped Trump. Now it is the hypocrisy of the justice system. You can't trust the justice system. We said it was a politicized justice system. That's what they did to Trump during the campaign. Everybody tried to indict him because they were all politicians. And it is still politicized. And if you are rich, you can get away with anything in this country. And there's a double standard and we're angry at the rich and it's class warfare. And my spidey sense says they're covering up. They redacted. What the heck does that mean, redacted? It means they, they blacklined. They're not telling you. Why are they not telling me? Why are they not there? It's another cover up Watergate cover. And it is, it is capturing all of the angst in society. I don't trust the justice system. The rich have gotten away with murder. They've exploited the system here. They said there was a list. Now there is no list. Now it's a redacted list. And I don't think there's a way that Trump gets out of it. And I'll tell you the great irony is the Democrats are going to win Congress. Go to Poly Market now. Bet I'll underwrite it. The Democrats are going to win Congress. How much?
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B
How much will you cover?
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C
That's what history says. And the Democrats are going to win Congress. Not because the Democrats are putting forth any great vision or have any great plan. 10 steps to fix ice. It is a drama for fatigue with Trump. I just can't take it. Every day there's another drama. It's Greenland, it's Maduro. It's just too much. I want stability. I want a two party system check. And the Democrats are going to come in and grab the Epstein issue and that's going to be the hoisted armies on Petard and they're going to subpoena Pam Bondi and say let's go in redaction by redaction and the Democrats are going to bring you justice.
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B
So somebody calls up Andrew Cuomo and says, you following what's happening with this? So, yeah, following. What do we do now? What? What do we do? They're coming at us for the emails. Arguably we're in violation of the law. The DOJ had this own policy, but the federal law counteracts the policy. And there's this secondary list. What should we do? What is the best advice for what needs to happen now on the government slash administration side?
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C
Frankly, I think it's too late. You could make a last ditch effort out of the box. You're going to bring in some new independent person to review all the redactions because Pam Bondi can't do it now. She was the one who redacted. I'm going to bring in a new independent person. They're going to review the redaction, see if there's a legitimate reason. That person says no, I'm going to release everything. Unless it has to do with the privacy of a survivor and mass a mass admission of all the redactions. Here are all the names and try to pop the blister and get it all out there. I don't think they have the guts to do it. I don't think they can do it. I think there's a reason they did redact names because they have buddies in there who they don't want exposed. And that's why I think this is going to continue and linger and then again hosted on their own petard. The Democrats will do it and they will have the high ground on the chessboard that Trump laid out.
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B
I appreciate that analysis. It is spot on and a layer deeper than I had gone, which is no surprise. Been the story my entire life. But I do want to pivot because this is a special opportunity. Dusty, when you're looking, does it strike you.
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E
Yes.
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B
That I am much bigger than my brother who relies on a single photo where I stooped down when we were taking a picture together.
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E
He is so insecure. He is so insecure, Governor, that he is obsessed with the one photo out there that everybody uses it. Taller than him.
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B
Everybody uses it.
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E
Who cares?
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B
I care.
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E
Nobody.
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B
I'm much bigger than he is.
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C
You can't win this. I know he is intimidated by me.
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B
I know I fear nothing but my own mediocrity.
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C
Part of it is I always dominated him in whatever we did, basketball, football, wrestling. Always dominated with he he's lived under no one should believe shadow. He's lived with the constant fear that he cannot handle me on any level. On any level.
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B
It's not true. I can handle.
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E
Makes a lot of sense.
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B
The shadow part is right because he's Dracula and he sleeps standing up in a box that is usually in a closet.
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E
I just want to say one thing about the governor is that he spent my son.
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B
I don't like referring to him by that, by the way.
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E
I do not.
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B
Because my son always calls him something else.
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E
I just want to say that he had such an impact on my 21 year old son that he changed his life and I'm very, very grateful for that.
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B
Okay, let's put.
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E
That's all.
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D
Let's.
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C
Let's put that he is a beauty. He was a. He was a pleasure to have him with me. He was with me in the car every day during the mayor. So you have those good days, you have those bad days. I hope he learned a lot, but he was a tremendous joy for me to have just from a companionship point of view.
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B
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Vote for me. Vote for me. Shut up. Listen, here's how it all started.
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E
He's jealous of that too. It's unbelievable.
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B
Here's how it all started, all right? I'm about 8 years old, okay? I'm sitting at a kitchen table, Formica, round, nice framed picture of fruit. Blue Formica, blue Formica, nice aqua, nice linoleum floor that Andrew had laid. Because God forbid anybody pay for anything in that house that he could figure out how to do himself. So we were in the kitchen, cheap, cheap, cheap. My mother puts down a plate of chicken. There are like seven people at the table, right? I know that when that comes around, I better grab some chicken, otherwise I'm not going to eat because I happen to be sitting next to someone who was like seven times my size. His nickname was the big Mamu. I take two pieces of chicken. These were small pieces of chicken, all right? These were like parts. Wasn't chickens. This was part. All of a sudden I hear, put it back. That's what I hear. Eight years old, soul crushing. I look over, my brother's sitting there, got a plate of bones in front of him that looks like a dinosaur. Looks like what you see in the back of a cave, okay, In a sword and sandal movie. He says, put it back. Put back the extra piece of chicken. I say, I don't want to put back the extra piece of chicken. And he like has his hand that's like the size of a catcher's mitt and he's Like I said, put it back. So I put it back because I'm afraid he eats the chicken. Dusty. He's been eating my chicken my whole life. Do you understand? I want the chicken. I want the chicken. Dusty.
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C
Dusty. That is the metaphor. First, the facts are as he relays them, are totally distorted. Welcome to Fake News. There is a bowl of chicken. People take a piece. Take a piece. There are two remaining pieces in the bowl. Two remaining pieces. He has chicken on his plate. He takes the last two pieces, anticipating that he can't eat as fast as the other people. You never take the last piece of chicken out of the bowl, number one. That's just basic manners.
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B
You say this was prison rules, Dusty. This was prison rules.
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C
You are a last peace taker. That's what you are.
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B
No. And let me tell you what else he did, Dusty. Let me tell you what else he did. So Andrew is a master.
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E
He raised me.
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B
Andrew is a master mechanic, right? He would buy cars, fix them up, race them, sell them, okay? So I would sit there and watch him. And he is a beautiful, masterful mechanic. He's got a true diagnostic ear. Very cool. So he would do all this all day long. Okay? Then when it was over, what's the fun part? Test drive, Right? Guess who didn't get to go on the test drives. Dusty. Me. I don't think it was because the Italian Stallion had to go. And he would say to me, it's too dangerous. You stay here and you start to clean up for me. I'll come back and we'll finish together. He never came back. I would clean that whole thing every time. Have to put everything back. One time, Dusty. One time, my cousin, aptly named Vinnie Romano comes and says, hey, we're playing football. Why don't you come? I say, okay, I want to go from underneath the car. All I see is a pair of faded Levi's and some Favor dance shoes. Because Andrew would only work on the car in his car shoes. So the Favor dance shoes are sticking out, and I see that the bottoms are very slick. And I say, I want to go play. He says, no, you stay like that. And the big catcher's mitt comes from underneath, and he just kind of waves it at me. And I say, all right. Today the little man wins. And I wait for his ass to crawl nice and deep underneath that car. And I make a break, okay? I make a break. We lived across the street from these garden apartments, and I knew if I could get behind the garden apartments, he wasn't going to chase Me, but I made a tactical error. Dusty here was the tactical error. There was a big green space and I decided to cross the green space instead of going down the back way. So there was opportunity. And it became a scene out of Mutual of Omaha, Marlon Perkins, where as I'm running across the green, all of a sudden I hear this. And it's those frickin favor shoes clacking on the asphalt. And this guy comes running after me. Like when the cheetah is chasing that fat antelope and he has a hand of grease and he comes from behind and swats me down. I go tumbling over in the grass. And he said, I look up and there he is in all his glory. Still's got the chicken sauce on his face, probably from the earlier indignity. And he says, that's right. Now you go back like that. You like that?
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I am with my brother, Andrew Cuomo, formidable, redoubtable, three term governor of New York, talking to me now in the break. He and Dusty were teaming up against me, but that's okay. I can take on a pack of hyenas. But he says Epstein isn't everything. There are other things going on. They're gonna have problems with ice, they're gonna have problems with a shutdown. I don't get it. Isn't the shutdown bad for the Democrats? Because people don't think it accomplishes anything.
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C
I think what happened is the Democrats, I think, have themselves in a box, right? And Trump starts on his back foot. Renee Good. Alex Preddy, two Americans are killed. He's on his back foot. He says, okay, I'll suspend the DHS budget, the Department of Homeland Security budget. Democrats put out 10 demands that they want and now they're negotiating the 10 demands or there's going to be a shutdown. The 10 demands are basic police procedures. You should identify yourself, you should wear a body camera. There should be no secret police. Yes. And they'll get some of their demands because they don't really want to shut down. Because if there's a shutdown, it's not that ICE gets shut down. ICE is funded. It's TSA that isn't funded, which would have tremendous backups at the airports, et cetera. So they can't shut it down. The Democrats get a partial victory on their 10 police procedures and they'll declare victory. But Chris, the 10 police procedures are not the problem. We have 18,000 police departments in this country. There's 1.2 million police officers There are numerous federal police agencies. You have the dea, you have the atf. You have the Park Police, Secret Service. We know how to police. Just saying ICE has to follow the rules that all 18,000 police departments follow is not a victory. The question is not. The real question is not how you deport, it's who you deport.
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B
Deport them all. Deport them all. That's the counter. I voted to deport them all. That's the counter.
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C
No. No, you didn't.
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B
Yes, Trump. They're illegal. They're draining my health care. They're taking my jobs, they're taking the housing. They're killing people and getting away with it. You crazy lefties have your sanctuary cities. You let them go when you catch them and commit crimes. You don't let them pick us up. You don't let us pick them up from the prisons and the jails. You're the problem.
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C
No, this is where Trump lost it. Trump had it when he said, I'm going to deport the worst of the worst. I'm going to deport the criminals. He had the majority of the American people, and he ran on that. And when Homan started, I'm going to deport the worst of the worst. Only 14% of the arrests have been people who have been either charged or convicted criminally. 14%. When they start taking the restaurant workers and the guy who's cutting my grass and my nanny jobs that Americans wouldn't take in the first place, they're going too far and they went too far. That's the constant theme with the Trump administration. He goes too far.
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B
So it's still. So what is the percentage chance that still makes him better during the midterms against people who don't do enough?
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C
It's a referendum on Trump. Right? The midterms of Trump versus Trump, you have history, but it's Trump versus Trump. And they say the same thing every day. We're going to now focus on the economy because it's about the economy, and we're going to focus on the economy. And then they start talking about Greenland again or Iran again, or I'm not going to fund the Dulles Airport and Penn Station unless you name it after me. And today he's not going to complete the bridge from Michigan to Canada because he's mad at Canada. It's the drama that is going to elect the Democrats in November. People are just going to say, enough. Calm down. It's too much. There are no checks and balances. The Republican. Trump doesn't even listen to the Republicans. I believe in balance. I believe in the two party system. And that's why the Democrats are going to win in the midterm. And then they're going to come with investigations like you have never seen. I was.
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B
What about the fatigue on the investigations in the Lawfare?
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C
Oh, no, these are going to be. Forget Lawfare. This first investigation is going to be on the Epstein files. And the Democrats will give people what they want because they'll just hand over all the names. The second will be on the Trump file. Family business activities and how they enrich themselves. And those two issues are going to be very powerful for the American people.
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B
Gina, if you're calling, yes, I am taller. I'm much heavier and stronger. Next question.
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C
Don't you feel anger from Chris coming towards me?
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B
I don't have any anger. I love you, Gina. You swore my chicken. Yes.
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F
Am I On. Hi, my name is Dina. Not Gina, but I've been called worse. It's okay. I just want to say much I'm enjoying having the two of you on the show. I wish. I wish Governor Cuomo could be on every week like you have.
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B
Let's not get. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. There's a lot of. There's a lot of trauma.
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C
Not you. No one's asking for you. They're asking for me.
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B
All right, go ahead. Continue your point, please.
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F
Governor, I miss you so much. And I was devastated when. When you didn't win, and I. And Dusty kind of stole my thunder. I was going to ask what you thought about the snow storm, snow removal. Obviously, it's been a disaster. I agree. But anyway, I just want to say how much I enjoy both of you. And I miss you, Governor. And I'll keep watching and listening.
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C
Hold on a second.
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B
Have you not heard any of the stories that are. And by the way, what did I tell you? They got your name wrong, and then they change it so that they cover themselves with management. Don't change the name after the lady attacks me on air about it. Okay.
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C
Hold on.
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B
No, no, Please, please. Mute him. Mute him. Mute him.
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C
Can I respond?
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B
Please mute him. Mute his face.
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C
Thank you very much, Dina. Thank you very much. It's a thrill to speak with you. I was devastated, too, when I lost. My brother was not so devastated when I lost, but that's a different story. But this. This performance of the snowstorm, not to get in the weeds a little bit. The city had notice that this was happening. You know, we went through Hurricane Irene, Superstorm Sandy, all these things. The only time you have an excuse is when you didn't know the weather forecasters were wrong. They said it was going to be 2 inches of snow. Wound up being 12 inches. They said it was going to be upstate winds up, being downstairs. Normally, what happens in a storm like this if you know what you're doing. Yes, the Department of Sanitation goes out with their plows, but you also hire people who just do the snow removal. You hire private contractors. You hire individuals. They're doing the snow removal. If it gets really bad, the city, the mayor picks up the phone, hello, Governor, I need some help. Send some National Guard down here to shuffle the snow. Send some equipment.
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B
All right, I got it. He screw up the snowstorm? He screwed it up, right?
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C
Can I finish, please?
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B
It's so long. It's so long.
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C
Hold it. It was all the Department of Sanitation, and then the Department of Sanitation Couldn't be picking up the garbage because they were shoveling the snow. And now you have a buildup of snow and a buildup of garbage and because it was mishandled. I'm sorry.
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B
I can tell you this much. I could tell you this much. Andrew absolutely has snow shoveling shoes, special gloves, pants that he likes to wear when he does it, and a technique that he would rather die than deviate from when he is clearing any path that I can promise you. This man is all about process and execution.
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E
You think Mandami's ever shoveled anything in his entire life?
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B
He shoveled bullshit.
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E
You know, when you.
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B
I got a guy on the phone right now who is a huge fan of mine. He is what is known in my community as a lesser Italian. What does that mean? He's small, doesn't speak a language well, but he's still Italian. Vinnie, are you there?
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G
Oh, my God. You guys are out of control, man. Out of control, both of you guys.
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B
Andrew owes this guy money, by the way. Andrew owes this guy money. Just so you know.
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G
Excuse me a little bit. A little bit. But listen, that's besides point. We're still friends. It doesn't matter. But my question is, first of all, Dusty, let me give you the illusion what we got going on with Christopher, okay?
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B
He wears the Hell's Going On Here.
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G
Today Children's Medium T shirt.
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B
It's not true. This is an Excel. This is an Excel.
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F
They're not that big.
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G
I put his arm through a table and. Mr. Master Mechanic, I got a question for you. You're a master mechanic. How many volts does an alternator put out?
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C
Depends on the alternator. You have a high output. Charging two batteries. Is it a diesel alternator?
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G
Oh, boy. You see, Chris, this is how. This is how it happens.
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B
Well, I got to tell you, I'm kind of smelling what he's cooking right now.
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D
That is true.
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B
It depends on the alternator. What about a regular. What is the alternator in the Corvette on that? Three hundred and fifty. What is. How many amps does that put out? How many volts?
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C
I happen to have installed a high output chrome alternator.
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B
Oh, you told me to avoid those. You said that they break.
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C
Yeah, they don't break, but they look great when they're working.
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D
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B
You got a bag, you got a coffee, you got a phone and you need to charge the phone and you don't have anywhere to put the coffee.
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D
The Coffee tosser starts to spill, you can't drink it because it's too hot. You got this bag on your shoulder, it's all lopsided, and you're trying to figure out where am I going to charge this phone?
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B
How am I going to charge the phone?
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D
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D
First off, they built a flip out cup holder right into the luggage lifesaver lines at the gate. You know you got to get somewhere and you don't want to hold the coffee.
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Perfect.
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D
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B
Mike, how do you see this situation?
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G
Well, you know the problem that nobody's mentioning lately is the way that Epstein died. I mean, he died in a cell with allegedly no sheets, no nothing to hurt himself. Two guys watching cameras in there. Well, whatever he had, I mean, how did that happen? I mean, this is why I.
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B
Hold on, hold on, Mike. Here's what we don't need to do and I'm not stopping you. I'm still got you on. You're not. I didn't drop your call. We don't need to go beyond the facts. This is what Bongino did. This is how cash, Patel and Bongino made all that money. This is how Bongino made rumble into a profit center and made tens of millions of dollars. You don't get to speculate. You can speculate. I don't care about that. But he has no proof zero that this man was murdered. He didn't even discuss what was in the files that he had to know or should have known was in there? Why? Cuz he was always about the bullshit. He was always about the profiteering, not about the production of any real proof. So we don't know. It is. It is curious that a high value target like Epstein dies in custody. It is. I agree with you. It's weird, but that's all it is until we know something else. And these guys. Here's the frustrating part.
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D
You got rich selling bullshit.
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B
They put you in a position of power you didn't deserve. You then had access to things that you tried to cover up. And you've never been held to account. To me, that is too much. And Bongino, Patel and Bondi need to explain why they were quiet about what the rest of us are now seeing. Loud and clear. All right, Diana, you're going to be our last caller today. What do you got, Diana? New York.
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F
Good morning, Chris, how are you? My question is around the new program on News Nation. I guess the host is Katie Pavlika. And I was watching it because I enjoy watching News Nation, but I was kind of surprised. I thought I was on Fox TV when I first listened because she seemed very one sided and very much in favor of Trump.
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B
Here's the thing. Here's what makes News Nation different.
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D
Okay?
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B
I say News Nation is where right and left come to be reasonable. I then shifted that. Why? Because I shouldn't be advancing the paradigm of right and left. We gotta get away from it. We have to kill the sides. Not that we have to kill disagreement, but we have to kill the parties. We have to kill this entrenched structure that as long as one side is worse than the other, that's enough. We have to kill it. So really what News Nation is at its best is this is through the lens of right and wrong. And all voices are welcome. Katie Pavlich is absolutely MAGA folk. And that's okay. She's not hiding it. She's transparent about it. She's authentic about it. And I'm okay with that. What I'm not okay with is when O'Reilly says, oh no, I'm a fair broker. Oh yeah, okay. You just happen to talk to Trump every 15 minutes in a way you've never spoken to any Democrat ever in your life, but you're not partial to him. You give him the same defense that you would give any Democrat. Bullshit. That's what bothers me. Be authentic, be transparent. Katie is. And I'm okay with that. And I'm happy to have her on the show and debate. My problem is don't you get off at me for having her on because you believe everything she says is bullshit. Have the conversation, let it be exposed. See where the strengths and weaknesses are of the position that you oppose. It can only make you better if for no other reason. If you don't want to change your mind, at least it lets you change your approach to how you attack your opponent because you understand them better, because you listened to them. That's being a critical thinker. That's being different. That's what I want to help engender. Okay? So that's what it is. I don't control News Nation. I control what comes out of my face. That's what I do here in the morning. That's what I do there night. That's what I do with the podcast all the time.
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D
The best measure of where we are as a society is hearing from other members of that society in conversation.
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B
That has some cogency to it, some.
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D
Intelligence, not just what do you think about Greenland?
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B
It's not about provocation, okay?
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D
It's about conversation. That's what we're getting after here on.
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B
The YouTube channel for the Chris Cuomo.
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D
Project on News Nation, where I'm doing my cable show and. And SiriusXM Potish Channel 124 for Cuomo in the mornings. Bon appetit.