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Transparency is everything. And when it comes to transparency, the story that is absolutely leading the way isn't Epstein, it's UAPs, once laughed off as the stuff of comic books. Now we know that there are multiple intelligence programs that have been going on for many years, spending hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars working with our special operators within the milit that there are different classifications, things are being held, things are being studied, technologies, maybe more. And in the Trump administration, we keep getting promises that don't get delivered. And I don't mean that politically. We get enough of that with maga. But with uaps, why can it really be that the president of the United States is not on a need to know basis when it comes to anything that our government is doing? How can that be? Jeremy Corbell has been chasing down these questions for many, many years and now he is the subject of a movie called Sleeping Dog about his efforts with his reporting partner and his partner in transparency, George Knapp. And these are big names in the UAP world. And Jeremy, I have been echoing his work for a long time and now he says we are on the precipice of something, not just his movie, but a reality of transparency that may change everything. What is it? When is it? Jeremy Corbell. All right, so it's hard for me to do this the right way, Jay, because I want to talk to you about Sleeping Dog and what it means to you to have the story of your pursuit coming out. But, but I do want to ask you about the news hook that we have right now, this latest expectation from the White House, from the president saying, yeah, I told them release a bunch of stuff. I feel like they keep saying that and it keeps not happening. What is your sense about whether or not that's been the case up until now and whether or not it'll be different now?
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Basically what you're asking is we've heard this before, they're releasing the files. President's like, yeah, let's Definitely release the files. Right. Um, look, man, I'll break this down for you. George Knapp and I gave them those 46 file names, the ones that Rep. Luna made public. But we gave them a lot more than that. So as journalists, we obtained all these file links for them saying, here are UAP filmed by our military. You know, we know where they are. Here's the, the servers they're on. Like this is what the public wants to see. You know, this goes back decades and decades and decades of secrecy with this stuff. And nobody's debating that anymore. You know, we've learned that they've been studying uap. Every single intelligence agency studying it. If you look at that list, Chris, if you look at what Rep. Luna asked for video number two, you'll recognize that's the last video that George Knapp and I released. Instantaneous acceleration. This is the first time in human history that, that I know of where we actually have on camera, out to the public in the wild military film footage of something that is supposed to be impossible. No inertial effect. You can see it for your own eyes. This dome shaped craft shoots off it. It has gone under scrutiny. We put it out a couple months ago. It's gone under scrutiny. People have looked at it. What you are seeing is something that's supposed to be impossible. This is what everybody's talked about, that we have this type of footage. So journal is doing the job even if our government's not going to.
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It's such a weird paradox you have, oh, look, there's nothing to see here. And look, you know, guys just, you know, you just. They hype it up and I get it, we get it, but it's really not what you think. But if anybody talks about it, they will lose their life's work and be punished severely. And it's all classified. How do they. It's the only time those two things have gone together in my 30 years of things. 30 years I've been doing this. I've never seen anything like this before. Where they will say to you, there's nothing there. I know you like to play with the unknown and the non existence of a fact and kind of tell us we got to prove it. But there's nothing to prove. But they won't show you anything. And it's all classified. Why is it classified if there's nothing to show?
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Right. So that it's being used, the classification is being used as a way to, to not release the information. Now why is this so sensitive? We've talked about this before. It's a national security issue in many ways. That's the whole point about the UFO thing, is that they're looking for derivative technologies. They've already admitted UFOs are real. There's a technology that's out there. It outpaces what we got. We can target it, but it's really difficult to lock on to them. They've admitted this much that it's not China, not Russia, not the United States. This is not me saying it. You've had heads within government saying this is a reality, but show us more, tell us more. You're having UFO fatigue, right? You're having this moment where you're like, just show me what you got, man. The whole American public is feeling the same way as you. They use national security as a way to obfuscate and to say, oh, it's so sensitive. You. It's not. Everybody knows about these censors. The. The UAP that they have caught do these extreme maneuvers. They will prove to the public that there is something out there that is not ours, and we don't know whose it is. And we're this close. We've never been this close before, man. I've been fighting with George a long time on this, you know, George, a little more pessimistic than me about it, but again, if our government doesn't do it, journalism is going to do its thing.
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Look, I hope so, because it's just. To me, it's just fundamentally wrong from a transparency perspective that no matter what the level of speculation is, it can't be a national security threat and be a nothing burger at the same time. And I don't like how they belittle the curiosity in this. Now the media has caught on, as you know, thanks to you and other satellites in this universe, News Nation became a hub for this reporting, and we took a lot of shit for it, which is fine. I mean, it never mattered to us. But the, you know, now they're all doing it, which is fine. It just hasn't changed our reality yet in terms of the level of transparency. And I will correct you on this. I don't have UFO fatigue. I have Epstein fatigue. I have Epstein file fatigue. Because they keep saying it's gonna come, and then it doesn't come. And then we hear representatives say they've seen all these other things when they go, you know, to this special little room, and there's a lot of questions. Annapoleon Aluna, to use your example, she comes out of the room, the skiff, and says, a lot of women that I'd like to see, have to testify. And I was like, women, we're waiting on men. And she was like, yeah, and I'm a young woman and I'm telling you there are also women here that I want to talk to about their role. So why haven't we heard any of that? Why haven't we seen any of that? So I have fatigue on that, not on this. I haven't gotten enough to have any fatigue. I don't have any sense of what I'm even dealing with. I don't even know what I'm talking about. Am I talking about craft? Am I talking about life? Am I talking about intelligence? Am I talking about signals? I don't even know what I'm talking about yet.
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There's a movie, you and I talked about it. Sleeping Dog. This kid followed my work for a couple years. It was supposed to be that I just gave him a bunch of my footage. He made some UFO movies, but he saw what was going on. He saw. So we provoked hearings. We had people like David Grush stand up and say not only did I get exposed to these craft and these holding facilities with uap, with craft of non human origin, we are trying to reverse engineer. But he also mentioned biologics, beings, pilots. So we've had a lot of progress in that. This is being talked about in the halls of Congress. This is being pushed all the way to the President where now everybody has to confront this. So that is progress. Again, Rep. Burleson, he has been given authority, presidential authority to go into these holding facilities to look at allegedly he's going to be able to go see some of these non human intelligence. Now he doesn't know for sure he's going to be able to. He's a little worried about it. He's admitted to going to one facility but he's, I can tell you he's very well informed where these things are being held. I had somebody on my show with me And George Knapp, Dr. James McCaskey, he ran the UFO program for the Defense Intelligence Agency. The largest study of UAP that has ever been acknowledged in history. If you go back in time, Chris, we were talking about how Project Blue Book, nothing to see here, move on. They said we're not studying UFOs. We have come so far since 2017 and the New York Times article admitting a UFO program to the point now where we have a congressional member going and essentially auditing some of these facilities. Now he's been tight lipped about it because he wants to make sure. That when he goes to these facilities, he actually sees the goodies, he sees the goods. Fact of the matter is this. We have craft that they believe were not made by humans. And people have testified to it in Congress. And we now have a Congressperson going to go look and audit those facilities under presidential order. That is progress. But the frustration is the American public. You, me, everyone else, it feels like the same thing over and over. You get teased, you get to some point, but nobody's giving the goods. I really, really think that we need to push and pressure and fight for this. This is a reality, man. This is absolutely true. All of this from my decades of experience.
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Well, the frustration for you is we are. We have such ADD as a culture that, you know, we're like, yeah, wait, wait, what did he say, Jeremy? Oh, yeah, that's really good. Oh, wait, we're at war. I'll get back to you, Jake. And you know, it's all the bright shiny thing because of the algorithms. I mean, it's really social media. You talk about non human intelligence that's dominating our culture. We see it every day in the algorithms in terms of how they're shaping our minds. I mean, we're completely tuned to them. Every outlet in the media works off the algorithms. I mean, it's ridiculous, the echo effect. What I don't understand is who are these cats that get to tell the elected representatives that they don't get to see shit like, who are these people? It's the only time when I've heard about the deep state that it's ever meant anything to me. Cause it's always been a boogeyman to me that you use to explain what you can't get done in government when you're in power. But who are these cats who get to decide, yeah, sorry, Mr. President, we can't tell you that. Who is this?
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Right? I mean, so first of all, when you think about presidents being briefed on stuff, this was a real kind of shocker for me, which is, first of all, you got to ask for it. And second of all, you remember when Clinton went on Jimmy Kimmel and he's like, you know, they told me there was nothing to see. Here is the first thing President Clinton did was he sent Webster Hubble to go in and find out two basic things. Who killed JFK that would be of concern for a president? And what's up with UFOs? And he was on Jimmy Kimmel and he says, look, it wouldn't have been the first time a president was lied to. I'LL tell you this. I know some of the people that give briefings to presidents, and I've asked him, well, what have you, like, how much have you told about the legacy UFO stuff? It was shocking to me that some presidents are considered a national security concern. Right? So they don't get the full story. And when they dig into it, sometimes they're lied to. So who are the boogeymen? Who are the people? Look, these are people that are not elected. They've been there for a long time. I don't know what words you use. Deep state or whatever it. You know, basically it's people that are factions within intelligence agencies that they've got the goodies, right? So they don't want to share that. And, and that's what I've noticed over the years, is that the people that I've talked to, but I've gotten high up the food chain with George Knapp, they always end up telling us, don't kick a sleeping dog. Like, this isn't good for American sovereignty. This isn't good for the public. How is the nature of reality not good for human beings to know? There's nobody, nobody that should be able to hold back if this is true, if the UFO thing is true, and we have beings that are operating craft that are not from planet Earth, and there's been a presence observing humanity for decades. That's what we're talking about. If that's true, it's nobody's right to hold it back. But you're asking, who's the boogeyman? And I think the ultimate answer to that is in these protected programs, which are basically unacknowledged special access programs. There's the. What they call, bigot lists. There's certain people that have a need to know and are read in. And apparently it's determined at times the commander in chief doesn't have a need to know. It's absolutely shocking. But you've had presidents come out and say that they've been lied to before, so, you know, listen to them.
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I don't get it. I mean, look, I guess they have people in their ears saying, look, this just doesn't matter enough for our agenda. You know, let's just focus on the tax cut, let's focus on this, let's focus on that. You know, this is where the people are in terms of that we have to access. So it winds up being back burner. But the here's the good news. Trust is gone. Truth is gone. It exists on the personal level, exists on the community level, like in your dealings with the people in your neighborhood that you work with at home. That you know, there's truth, there's trust. And when it's breached, it's fixed or it's over. Not on the governmental level, not on the political level. And the good news about that is the only thing that establishes any trust is transparency. We only know what you show now. That's it. It's just like, you know, I joke all the time that politics has become just like fishing. I don't want to hear what you caught. I don't want to hear it. Send me the photo. Send me the photo. And then I'm gonna put it through my AI tool, make sure that Jay didn't sneak it because he doesn't want me to know where he was. And that's it. That's all I'll accept. So that's the good news for you. And the vanguard of people who are trying to bring truth to this situation is that everybody believes they will not trust what is said, only what is demonstrated. That's good news for you. Now tell me this. How do they catch these things? If they're so fast and we can't like, understand how they do what they do, how do they catch them?
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Yeah, so there's a really great video that George and I obtained and released, and everybody should look at it. It's Syria 2021. UAPS was the title. And what they're doing, they call it like passive capture. A lot of the time, which is where these things just move through our great sensor systems. So from satellite to, you know, fighter war fighters that have like thermal sensors on their planes, something will come into view or kind of dog fight with the thing, and they'll capture it just on their gun camera footage or sometimes really great. It's called full motion video. It's a layered system of optics. What you're seeing in that video is thermal. So when you look at Syria 2021 UAP, you're looking at thermal imagery. It was caught by a Reaper drone. It wasn't a passive capture, though. They actually got a weapons grade lock on it. And you can watch the video for yourself. So there's this thing, it's shaped like a mushroom, it's a dome with a. A little appendage on the bottom. And this thing, as that Reaper drone gets a weapons grade lock on it, it like notices. And you can see it kind of bank a little bit to the left and then shoot off with an absolute impossible speed. What I mean by absolutely impossible, they. We've had people forensically analyze this. Instead of slowly moving to acceleration, this thing just goes instantaneous acceleration. The inertial effect of any occupants within this, even the skin of the craft itself or whatever this is, it would explode because of the instantaneous acceleration. So they've got an active lock on this thing. They're watching it. You can see it for yourself. And as soon as that lock gets really good, the thing shoots off and banks to the right and it's in thermal, which is a heat signature. So it's better than like an iPhone or something like that. These are weapons platforms. Millions and millions of dollars to create these sensor systems. That's what you're seeing. I think that video is so unique. It is what the public has been asking for. You know, they say there's five observables with uap, which are these extreme movements, low observability, all this stuff. You actually get to see one man.
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Yeah, I mean, I saw it when you released it, and I was just watching it while you were talking about it again. Now, you know, here's the interesting thing. We're talking about technology we don't understand, Right?
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Right.
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And a lot of the proof that comes out that they need to tell us more about this, because look at this. What is this? How do you not. They can't explain this. Now, it's all affected by people's suspicions with AI. So we want to see things that we don't understand because of how intelligent they are. But what we get, people dismiss because they believe it's fake.
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Okay, but there's a difference. There's a difference. So anybody can create. And this is something we saw coming from a long time ago, me and George Knapp. It's just like you've got this footage and anybody can create anything. Now, I get that, but we're talking about military film footage that is in an archive that was filmed on these censor platforms. Congress can go after them. It has a pedigree of reality compared to a lot of this stuff you see online. So the signal to noise is going to increase because of AI, because of people's ability to create any visual imagery they want. But when you're talking about military filmed footage, you know, you've got a whole history of ownership of this footage. You've got pilots like Commander David Fravor. It's not just like you have a piece of footage. This dude chased a UFO for the United States military in 2004. Commander Chad Underwood. He's the guy that actually filmed it on the thermal platforms. You have people, pilots coming out from the real world experience, talking about the footage that you're looking at. It's very different than just seeing a piece of footage online. That's why George and I focus on these leaks, you know, these military filmed leaks.
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Lou Elizondo is a comrade in your cause. And I was joking with him recently. So he had a bad motorcycle accident, as I'm sure you. And I said, you know, Lou, this is kind of proof that you may be an alien because you had no helmet on and you bounced off the pavement and you're back already, which was amazing. And he was in a really bad way. And obviously I was just trying to lift his spirits. And he was saying, you know, obviously whenever something happens like this that scrambles your eggs, you know, it gives you a little dose of perspective about what you're doing with your life. And it has made him feel recommitted to the fact that this is just wrong that the people are out of the loop on this. Because a lot of this, whether it's just simple technology or its connection to something else, that matters more than technology. The American people have to be involved with the directional decisions and the choice structure about what we do about this and with this. And that's what bothers me most about it, is that one, just from a transparency perspective, I don't think the government deserves the power that it's using and exercising here right now. I just. I don't think that they've earned that recently. Second, what do you do with. It is not up to a group of people who aren't elected. And that's my big concern. That's why I've been such a champion of your efforts, is not necessarily about the conclusions, but about the decision tree.
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Right.
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And what has popular support, what doesn't. Because I don't believe in this Big Brother thing. I don't believe that there are minds that are more better suited to decide what direction our humanity should take. I think it's gotta be put to the people. That's why I want them to have the information.
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Yeah. You know, I wrote something a little while ago about this, like, there is a path forward. I had comms teams within the Pentagon reach out to me and George and say, you know, so if we go forward with this, you know, how do we communicate this? And I'm like, it's very simple. There's five steps. It's all based on radical honesty. You got to be honest with the American public. The jig is up. People know. They know that there is a there there. When it comes to UFOs and UAP, we need formal admission of the known facts. We need formal admission of the unknowns. We need a formal acknowledgment of the UFO presence and reality. And also we must be given Preliminary definitions, determinations, and the explanation of why this has been covered up and what the global defense concerns are. So I gave him this kind of outline of. These are the things you need to do if you're coming forward with this. Now, look, the first step would be if the president releases the 46 videos that Congress is requesting. It's really simple. Allow the American public, the scientists in the world, to analyze and look at this. It's really not a hard move. This is a different era that we're living in now. People understand that this is an issue. It's just a matter of time to tell the truth.
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How close do you think we are to critical mass within Congress? I mean, it used to be none. Now you probably have like a dozen that have a straight face on when they talk about this stuff. And I gotta tell you, in a way, Epstein and a lot of other shit has helped because people are just like, look, just put it out. You know, because nobody wants to hear our explanations right now. Nobody believes anything, nobody trusts anything. Just put it out. So I think that's helped. But where do you think you are in terms of critical mass?
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You know, we've been at a good point at critical mass. That's why you're seeing these Congressional hearings. That's why you're seeing Rep. Burleson go to these bases. That's why you're seeing Rep. Luna write down these 46 video file names and say, we want these released. That's why the President ordered to have this Congressional Oversight Committee that Rep. Luna is running. We've reached a point of critical mass where it's now it's time to put up or shut up. And again, if our government doesn't do it, journalism is gonna do its job.
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I kind of feel the same way in a way, and again, only because with Epstein, it's stuff that they say they have that we want. That's the only analog here. There's no other. But the survivors. There's all this onus on them. Say the names, say the names. But I get why they're spooked. One they say, well, we did say the names, and we're worried about what's gonna happen. And when other people who have more power than us seem worried about it, then we're more worried about it. And we don't wanna have to own it. We want them to own it. And while that's unusual within kind of me too culture, I get it in these particular circumstances, I feel the same way here. Why put it on the whistleblowers why do they have to come out and risk everything for people who have nothing that they have to risk in terms of danger to themselves and just put out the information? Why does it have to be that you got to get somebody who's willing to throw their life away to say things that somebody else can say for free?
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I agree with you. I mean, so, you know, by the time this airs, you know, people will see that the movie Sleeping Dog is coming out. I didn't make the movie. A kid made it, kind of following me and George and our work. But you see in this movie, you see that the human cost of people fighting just to get this out to the public. You see people go from embryonic stage of like, I don't know if I want to come forward all the way to having their hand up in Congress. And you're right, this is not on them. It's not even on me. This is, you know, they have more information than we do. Our government has more data on the UAP issue than any independent journalist. So I agree with you. It is. The ball is in their court. This is the time to put this on. Whistleblowers that have to endure all of this, the things that have happened to them, man, that the, I mean, believe it or not, but like the, the threats, the bureaucratic terrorism, everything that they've had to, to go through just to come up, raise their hand. Active Navy Commander Alexandro Wiggins, a buddy of mine, man, we had to fight for months in order for him to just tell what he saw out at sea and what they caught on visual on that footage that I released with George. It was astounding, man. So I agree with you. This is not on the whistleblowers. This is not on even independent journalists. Although we're gonna do it right. This should be something front and center that our government is honest with the American public about. It's wild if you think about it, Chris, it is wild. What are we really talking about here? What we're talking about are machines that are far more advanced. They outpace, outmaneuver, outperform anything we have. Our war fighters are seeing them capturing on video. It's an open secret. Now, we've been studying downed craft, if that's the case, and we've been exploiting and studying downcraft, which again, I've had people come on my show who ran those programs and said that we've breached the hull of a non human intelligence uap. We breached the hull of it. We got inside of it. That's all they could say, because adopts are it is so out there that it's, look, they gotta come clean. They better come clean soon.
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Yeah. Or else. Or else what? You know what I mean? Like, that's the thing. It's like, you know, oh, well, we'll get it in drips and drabs, we'll get a little bit here, a little bit there, but they still wind up keeping control of it. And who knows what that's doing in terms of lost potential. And if it were massive, maybe if it were all transparent and the American people were captured by some aspect of it, maybe it would change what our government is focused on. Like, you never know. It could be, hey, now that we know that this kind of exists and this aspect of it, why aren't you doing more with that? Well, I'll vote for that. I want more money put on that. Why don't we have that kind of technology being developed? Who knows?
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Yeah.
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I'm not a cynic. I mean, I'm really not. I'm a ridiculous optimist. I am an irrational optimist. But it just seems like we're missing the piece that is most important in our politics. And here's the problem. I don't think you can do anything about this, Jay, and nor can George or Mallory or any of them. These people only focus on what they can use to show the other side sucks. And even saying, hey, we released it and Biden wouldn't isn't enough for these guys. Like right now there are all these people stuck on a cruise ship with hantavirus, which is nasty. You get it from like, inhaling rat shit, right? Why aren't we really hearing about it? Because it's not the government's fault, that's why. And because the Democrats can't play it to advantage and the Democrats can't be blamed with it. And it's not great for Trump and it's not bad for Trump, so they just ignore it. And this falls into that category. These guys don't jump all over this issue because it's not been a football yet in their binary battle of which side is worse. If it were, it would change overnight in terms of what they want here.
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Yeah, I mean, look, for me, I hear what you're saying, but UFOs is not a partisan issue. This, this is not something that should be divided by politics. This is something that's been controlled by small factions within our intelligence communities. And it is of not only national concern. It indicates something to the human being that there is a larger ecosystem that we have been a part of and for some reason, for national security, for exploitation, derivative technologies, strategic surprise, whatever you want to say, that that's been held back. And at this point, though, it's not a political thing. This is a human thing. So I don't really care that people take sides on stuff. This UAP issue is far beyond politics. And, and I Am optimistic, man. We have made massive headway, but this is a critical moment now and again. That's why I allowed this movie to come out. This is a critical moment. George and I are showing people what the future is. We're showing people what our journalism is going to do if they don't come clean. It's a warning shot, man.
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What's it like to be in a movie?
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It's terrifying, man. It's so funny. I ask people to go on camera all the time with me, and, like, this kid turns the camera around. Now, look, I've been on a lot of, like, filmings and whatnot, but this movie is highly personal. I mean, I get emotional with my mom. My family has had to endure so much because of my life choices. You know, studying this UAP thing. I. I've had a lot of attacks, man, that. That people don't know about on. On a daily basis. You know, I've got intelligence agencies calling me up and calling George up and trying to figure out what our next move is. It being in a movie. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. I mean, I. By the time this comes out, it'll be. It'll be out. But I hope what it does is it. It demystifies the work that George and I are doing. We get accused all the time, oh, you're CIA. How do you obtain all this stuff and get it out? Oh, you just happen to get all the good information. My God. It's because we work fucking hard. It's because we are, you know, at it every day doggedly on this topic. So I hope what the movie does is it peels away that layer where people can disassociate from the work that George and I are doing and try to say, oh, you're some, you know, Project Mockingbird shill who's, like, working for the man. I have not received a paycheck from the CIA, and I would never accept one. But I'm just saying that's never been the game here. The game is absolute honesty, transparency, fighting for this truth. I think it's important. I wouldn't have dedicated my life to it. So being in a movie, I don't know, man. It's. It's a weird. It's a weird thing to see your life from. From the outside kind of looking in. It's. It's a very bizarre experience because the movie goes all the way from my childhood at 9 years old doing martial athletics into my art career, into, like, I'm like, the Inspector Crusoe of ufo. It's like, I don't know what I'm doing at the beginning of this, right? But now I'm a trusted motherfucker. So people come to me and they're like laying heavy stuff on me. And so you get to kind of see that transition. And I think the honesty is power, you know, I think that letting people in might do some good. They can't dismiss the message by trying to dehumanize the messenger.
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What is your dream when you think about where you want this all to lead?
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I just want the public to be exposed to the things that I have and to allow that to absorb in. Look, ultimate dream is scientific progress. Progress with our understanding of our place in the universe. The ultimate dream is just that we can stop having some sort of blockade from what is natural, what is true. I don't know the whole truth about UFOs, but I do know we've been lied to. And I do know that's wrong. And I do know there's a way around that. There's a way to get stuff out. So that's what I'm fighting for. Ultimately, I hope we just learn more about what it means to be a human. And I think the UAP topic helps us to understand what it means to be a human. We might treat each other very differently if we understand we're part of a larger ecosystem. If that is indeed the case, which I suspect it is, that may be
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the nature of us and them that brings humanity together, at least in this country, is if you knew that there was something else that you need to be concerned about and we gotta get our shit together and be on the same page. It may be exactly the kick in the ass that we need when it comes to all the stuff that comes along with the work. What bothers you the most?
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C
What bothers me the most is the inordinate amount of pressure that George and I have received from intelligence agencies that are trying to tell us to slow our roll. You know, they're trying to influence us that this is something of high national security, that people are not ready for bullshit. Bullshit. We are ready for this, whatever it is. You can't put your head in the sand and think that you're going to be able to react to the world properly. The American public has a need to know. It's not even about deserving to know. We're way past that. We have a need to know what's up with uap and you know, hopefully we keep fighting men. Look, we're not going to get nothing if we don't fight for it. So we got to fight for it.
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B
What do you wish you had done differently when you were watching the movie? And I'm sure you've seen lots of different versions of it. When you see the course of time and what we're done, I know we all say, well, look, you know, I wouldn't change anything because I wouldn't have gotten to where I am right now if I change any. I've never believed that, by the way. I would change a shit ton of things in my own life, by the way. But when.
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C
What is your bet on black instead of red or something?
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I mean, forget it. You don't, you don't even want to get started, talk about a movie. But when you look at your own path, is there any point where you're like, man, I wish I had or I wish I hadn't?
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C
No, man. You know, I would, you know, try to find something to tell you, but like, I am very comfortable with my actions and the way I've conducted myself and the way I fought for things, you know, sure. Little things here and there. You could try to change, I think being open with everybody, letting them in and showing them what this process is like for journalists, what we're up against. Hopefully it gives them a sense of, like, the work that's being done. And, you know, really I'm hoping the public protects me, the public supports me. You know, there's some vulnerable moments in the movie. And like, even my mom's like, oh, what is that in there? And I just, like, I was going through a hard time, man. You know, it's like the. What I would change is, is make sure not to panic. Right? That's, that's the thing when you're getting real serious pushback and threats on you and you're trying to get to Congress and bring them information and witnesses that, you know, the, the fear perceived a perceived threat or a threat, it's the same in your body. You feel it. So, you know, there are moments in the movie when the kid was filming that like, man, I was, it was hard. I was the full grown man. You know, I had some hard moments, man, and. But I think that's okay. I think it's okay for people to see that because it's true. So I really wouldn't change. It's not my movie. I can't change anything anyway. But
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B
comes out for you and George. It will definitely generate a connection for people to the work. I think that you have a little bit of a Sweet spot. You're a high intellect, you're a dogged worker, but you got a lot of dog in you and you got a lot of bro in you. There is a relatability to you that often when we meet investigative journalists, they don't have. And even though you connect to the work, you don't really connect to the person, you know, where you're like, oh, this person seems like kind of a dweeb, or, you know, there's something about them where, like, I don't know that I trust this woman's motivations or this guy's motivation. You know, you have. You have a feel to you that I think people really, they want to believe you and they believe that you believe. You know what I mean? Like, they believe that, like, whatever Jeremy is saying, he absolutely believes there is zero hype. And you've said to me, just so the audience understands, many times Jeremy has said to me, slow down. No, I'm not coming out on that. No, I mean, I get it. It's in the news and you want to cover it, fine. That's not me. I'll come back to you when I have something that I think is interesting. But you do whatever you want with this. I'm not going to ride on this, go slow on this, you know, and that is not the conduct of. Of someone who's hyperbolic. And we see that with influencers and people on digital media all the time. They'll hype anything, they'll flog anything in the moment and just move on to the next. You don't do that. And there's gotta be a frustration in that. Also, when you watch all these other things catch fire in our zeitgeist, and these much bigger questions that you're pursuing do not get the same attention. That's gotta be tough.
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C
Yeah, it's okay, man. I just, you know, and you know, that is true. I don't jump on the news for anything, but people don't see that. They just see these little clips online. So they don't really know me. And so I've learned over the years that if. If you don't know me, if we haven't sat down and talked right, then it really doesn't matter what your opinion is. Like, I've got a mission, I'm on it. I've got a great mentor. We're fighting for it. Everything else can fall to the side. But yeah, man, I. Look, I'm doing my best. That's the best I can do. And I'll get things wrong from time to time. But you know I'll repent for it if I do. I'm just doing my best, man. And I don't have all the answers, but I do know a couple things are true. And the truth is you've been lied to about UFOs for a long time and we are closer than ever to getting some answers on that. And I'm going to keep fighting until we do.
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C
Does that
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what is your near term horizon about what you're watching in terms of a window of possibility?
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C
I want these 46 videos to come out. I want the public to be exposed to the things that George and I have as journalists, the things that have passed in front of our eyes. There's great evidence out there about these uap, these craft, and we know who has them, we know where they are. We've informed Congress. It's just time to put it all out. So that's my hope. My hope is that we get traction on that. Even President Trump has said we're going to release the files. Well, what files? Let's start with those 46 and move from there. I think that would be very instructive to the American population.
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I want to know who the people are who are working in these agencies in my name, with my power of agency that they were not elected to have. That's what I want to know. And you know, the law is pretty clear that the idea of all hiding your identity, that only works if there is international foreign entanglement by an enemy. That's not the case here. We don't protect you from extraterrestrial threats. We protect you from Russia. So, you know, I think that that would be really helpful. But I've talked to different members of Congress about that. Like, who are these people? And what I hate is when they tell me, look, to be honest, I really don't know. I only know and I'm like, what do you mean you don't know? That's crazy that you don't know who's running this, who's running this program that doesn't want you to know what's going on in it. Like, you got to know who they are at least, right? They have to know.
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C
Yeah. Well, I mean, I'll tell you straight up, which is that the CIA has had a huge handle on the crash retrieval aspect. But this goes all the way back, all the way back to when we started our naval intelligence. We have groups that say, this is important. We've got an object. The object is not made here. We got to keep this on the DL, just like we did the nuclear program. Everybody knows nuclear physics exists, but not everybody can build an atom bomb. Right. Thank God. So, you know, when, when you're asking about this, I mean, I'll just tell you straight up. You know, our CIA has had a big handle on this, obviously because it is an international issue, so they can work overseas as well. But it, it really is factions within, and I'll give you a specific, Glenn Gaffney, head of Science and Technology of the CIA at the time when they're trying to transfer one of these, you know, UAP non human intelligence craft to Lockheed Martin. George Knapp said his name out loud in Congress. Where's the follow up? People should interview Glenn Gaffney because he did stop the transfer of a non human intelligence craft to Lockheed Martin. The vice president of Lockheed Martin was facilitating this transfer to the Defense Intelligence Agency. This is all documented. George Knapp said his name in Congress. So you want a name? There's a name. He should go be interviewed. He should be put under deposition about it. That is a fact. And so hopefully people will start, you know, kind of looking into this better.
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B
Well, Jay, I hope you don't change when you're a movie star. When Sleeping Dog comes out, I hope that, you know, your shirt doesn't say sleeping dog all the time. Although, you know, technically Jeremy's not the sleeping dog. The issue of UAPS and the information is the sleeping dog. I wish you all good things. I am always here to advance the cause of transparency that you are absolutely an advocate for and a definer of. And it's great to know you and it's great to benefit from your work and I look forward to doing a lot more.
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C
Thanks, man. Yeah, just keep an eye out, you know, really watch the movie. You'll start to understand and you'll see in my and George's reporting what we've done and where we're going. And I'm very optimistic about it. It's a good time for transparency with this and we just gotta fight, man.
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B
And look, hopefully it becomes infectious and we start learning a lot more about a lot more. Jeremy Corbell, thank you very much. Continued success.
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C
All right, buddy. Thank you so much.
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B
If you need a little bit of a nudge to want to watch Sleeping Dog, here is a taste that'll definitely make you want more.
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The first 10 years that I was doing this, I'm going through the same
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st that you're going through now. Bouncing off the walls, up and down,
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peaks and valleys, scared shitless, worried about what comes next.
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Corbell is an investigative journalist who helped
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obtain and release the DoD footage of UFOs.
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I'm afraid he's going to die.
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Years ago, I went searching for the truth about UFOs, and I found it. To really understand the full picture, I'm going to start where it all began.
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They have between 30 and 50 alien bodies.
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A
The world I lived in the position of trust.
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B
I had at the highest levels being
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briefed into all the national secrets.
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C
They're not going to come after you. Not only you, they're going to come after your fan. If I die, this story comes out.
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When things are going really bad and there's been periods of real bad ups
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and downs, is that the best you got? Jeremy Corbell, always interesting because he is a true believer. And you know what's interesting? You hear him say, look, I don't know everything. Look, I don't know this, but I do know this. And I do know that that's why I love him, man. He never gets out over his skis. And I meant what I said. He has called me many times and said, yeah, I don't know about that. I don't know what this is. I don't know what that is. I think this thing' balloon, whatever it is. And I've really respected that about him for many years. And I hope he's right. Because it really bothers me that the American people get kept in the dark about things that are done in their name, and especially when it's done by people who aren't even elected. And especially when it's about something that has such major implications for our direction of development in terms of what we put resources into and why. But most importantly, we're in a period right now where nobody trusts anything. And transparency, revealing things, digesting them together, I think it would be very healing. And I don't think it will just ameliorate the condition of mis and distrust in our society. But it will help us to rebuild that you can trust certain things when you're able to verify them, when you're able to vet them for yourself, when you're able to have conversations about them instead of just stupid gotcha contests with competing heads and boxes. That you can actually foster understanding and have real debate about real ideas. That's the dream for me. So I hope you see the movie and I hope you understand the reporting of this guy and we'll be echoing it here and on News Nation. Because transparency is what breeds trust and UAPS is all about transparency for me. Thank you so much for watching, for subscribing and following, for going to YouTube and picking the subscription that works for you. The weekly zoom is a thing. It's getting more and more popular and that's cool. And it is different and I talk about different things in different ways than I do on any other platform. And that is a little bit of trust that I may get bit in the ass for. But we'll see. And thank you for watching here on the podcast. Thank you for listening in the morning on sxm and you can see clips of our radio show that's from 7 to 9 in the morning east. You'll see those on our YouTube channel. So hopefully you're subscribed there. And News Nation of course, every weekday night, 8-9p eastern and again at midnight. My brothers and sisters, the challenges are real, man. We gotta stick together and we gotta get after it.
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