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Look, you have an impression that immigrants kill people and one is too many. The one in too many part of course bothers me. Why? Cuz you don't decide that about anything else that doesn't resonate with you politically the way this does. These people should have never been here. Yeah, and there are a lot of criminals who shouldn't have been let out on the street. There are a lot of sentences that aren't like. There are a lot of teachers that got moved. There are a lot of priests that Got moved. You know, there are a lot of bad people, white people who get moved through different systems and allowed to violate again. Most pedophiles are white. Most mass shooters are white. Not saying it's because they're white, okay? I don't believe that white means criminal in any more way than I do. Black means criminal. You know what color means criminal? Green. If you don't have green, there's a better chance that you're going to be a criminal. Yes, people transcend their economic realities all the time. My father did it, his whole family did it. Broke, but built themselves up and were better. But I'm saying that. Don't fall for it. Don't let them do this. Don't let them make this. These opportunists about the media and us and them. It's bullshit. And they're doing exactly what they're accusing the media. And the left of which is what? Which is cherry picking a victim and selecting coverage to advance an agenda. Because look, what do they not want to talk about really in any real way? They want to punish mentally ill people when they commit crimes. That's what they want to do. Death penalty, put them in jail. Prosecute, prosecute, prosecute. Homeless people are constantly depicted on the right as bad as, you know, living in their own shit all over the streets. They're dogs, they're pigs, they're drug addicts, they're desperate. First of all, that's not even a true picture of the homeless population, by the way. Do you know how many. Look, if people are homeless long enough, are they gonna be more susceptible to addiction? Yeah, because what would you. I mean, how much hardship are you going to deal with? How long can you be displaced and desperate and not turn to some type of, you know, self medication or addiction or something like that, or crime? I mean, how long would you hold out? Oh, I'd never let myself get that way. Yeah, there's a growing number of people in this country who are a couple checks away from being on the street. And either we deal with it or we don't, but we shouldn't be twisting it so. They like to demonize when it suits them. The brown menace of immigrants. You would think that immigrants come here and kill at a disproportionate rate to citizens. And you'd be right, disproportionately low. But you would think that people who come over here, they're bad. It's like they're breaking into the house right now. Wouldn't that metaphor change if you knew that the People who own the house, invited them in, coaxed them in, paid for them to come and. Paid for them to come and do work in the house, that they didn't want to have to pay other people to do the same rate with the same protections. That's the real metaphor of what's happening here. Not for everybody. There are a lot of scumbags sneaking in to sell drugs and traffic people and do terrible things. And you absolutely had to secure the southern border. But don't let a situation get twisted for political advantage. And that's what's happening with this. What do they want to happen with this guy? Throw him in jail forever? Is that the best way to deal with mental illness? Do you think you're going to cure his mental illness or treat it or improve it in prison? No, but we don't give a fuck. You just want to punish him. That's what you want to do. There is no compassion. There is no empathy. There is only advantage. And the only time you even see expressions of those virtues is when it's for your own. And a lot of times it's with blinders on, so that you give the benefit of unreasonable doubt to people on your side and no benefit of the doubt of any doubt on the other side, your opponents, which is all fake. It's all fabricated for advantage in this stupid binary political system that we're in. Death penalty for. Brown. I. I don't know that they wouldn't want a death penalty for the judge. But you got to look at the system and how the system works and doesn't work. And when it comes to mental health, man, we do not do a good job. We do not help people. We do not figure out how to get them help when they don't want to help themselves. And this guy is a byproduct of that system. And instead of attacking it to improve that, you just want to punish him, kill him, and that will be the end of it. And that feels good because he did something terrible. He killed somebody who had every reason to live. She's beautiful, she's young. She was escaping violence. I get it. But it's poison. It's poison. And I'm not saying that it's not wrong. Of course it's wrong. I'm not saying he doesn't deserve consequence for it. Of course he does. They're going to give him his competency exam. I don't think he's going to pass it, which means he's going to be found incompetent, which means it can't even be. He can't even stand trial. And a lot of you will be pissed off and frustrated by that. A lot of people will. Why? Why should someone who is non compos mentis, who believes that someone else is controlling their thoughts and actions, why would you want to expose them to the justice system that you or I would go through as somebody who, with full knowledge of the nature and consequence of their actions, did whatever they did? Why would you want that? What is that? Feeding. Don't let people feed on that. If you can oppose it. And this is one of those situations. And look, Stephen Miller shows you the hypocrisy. He didn't want this lady in the country, but now that she's here, he wants to be her superhero and kill the guy who is too sick, in all likelihood to know what the fuck he was doing. Oh, you're making excuses for the bad guy. No, I'm not. I'm trying to understand why it happened and what I can do about it to make it happen less often. That's not what they care about. They're not going to kill all mentally ill people who commit crimes. I mean, that's not who we are. Are we? Or is that who we are now? And yeah, it was stupid to defend Brown. It's stupid to defend and raise money for this guy. He's, you know, the system failed him. But he's not the sympathetic one in this. Should he be? I don't know. We're not. We're not there. We're not there. But again, look at the facts here, all right? He called 911 complaining he had a man made substance controlling him. That's what this judge let him go for. That's why you're demonizing her. Does that sound fair to you? It shouldn't. It shouldn't sound fair because it's not. But this isn't about fairness. It's about fealty to a side. It's about advantage. And it's about white fright, making people who are white feel afraid that the media and the system is against them so that they seek support and protection from these panderers, these profiteers on the far right. That's what this is. That's what's happening. More police resources, that's the solution. More infrastructure to help with mental health. That's how you do it. Not National Guard. National Guard is not going to really make anything safer. Sure, there's less chance you'll come out on the streets if there's a Humvee there with a couple of guys with automatic weapons. Sure, sure. Is that how you want to live in America? Is it a really a military state? Come on, the laws don't even allow it. It's not even a close call. It's not even a close call. Oh, he gets to decide what an emergency is. No, he doesn't. Not to that level. No more with tariffs than with the National Guard. You can't send them into police, period. Why? Because we're not a military state, that's why. That's why there are better ways. Crime is coming down all over the country. Nobody's doing it by shooting all the mentally ill people. Nobody is doing it by bringing in military to sit there. How are they doing it? Targeted policing, More policing. Working with resources of communities about what they need to give people avenues of opportunity, avenues of dignity so they don't turn to crime. Dealing with crime when it happens. And yes, prosecution is part of that. Not everybody's going to benefit from a diversion program. People have to be punished. People have to be off the street, especially for high quality crimes. And yes, the left is fucked up on that. But what the right is doing now to weaponize something like this to make white people, you know, feel that no one cares if you're getting killed. 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That's why big cities like New York City are focusing on crimes in quotes that really just affect white people and affluent people. Because we don't give a shit about the whites. Come on. It's crazy. It's demonstrably false. Don't let them do it. Don't let them twist this for advantage. They don't have the facts right, they don't have the fix right. They don't have the facts right. They don't have the fix right, and they don't give a shit because this is just about advantage. This is an opportunity not just to say that they're wrong, but show what is right. What would have made this less likely? What programs, what funding, what resources, what policies would have made it less likely that this guy would have been on the street, untreated, unmedicated, unattended to. Because that's not what they want. They just want to shoot the guy. They just want to kill him. Oh, well, you heard about Daniel Penny. You think you would have heard about Daniel Penny, the curly haired former military guy, which everybody made a big deal that he was former military. Like that's why he was. That's why he would kill somebody on a subway train because he's military. So unfair to the men and women of the military. I hated that story. I hated what it became about. But he had people around him. He wind up being exonerated at trial, found not guilty. Right. You think we would have covered it the same way if he wasn't white? You don't think. You think that guy was demonized because he was white? I don't think so. I don't think so. I think that he got a fairness because he was white and for a lot of people because he was in the military and he seemed to be wanting to do the right thing with his life. Now you do know that most crime is intra racial, right? This idea that like blacks are killing whites all the time, you know, whites kill whites, black kill black, white kill white, black kill black. Why? Because they live around each other. Because there's, there's more interconnectivity with one another. So the idea that we have a problem with blacks killing white people, can you skew statistics to show that? Sure, but it's not the norm. It's not really a thing. There are solutions if you want to lower crime. The National Guard is not it. There are solutions to dealing with people who are mentally ill and can become violent, which is a very small group of mentally ill. Yes, I know you see them all the time. But we're cherry picking the instances to paint a reality. Statistically, people who suffer from mental illness statistically are more likely, more probable, higher chance of being a victim of violent crime than an assailant. Illegal entrants in this country, unless you count the misdemeanor or felony of the entry or multiple illegal entries, are more likely to not commit violent crimes than the rest of the citizenry. These are the realities. How you twist them, how you allow to be twisted is a separate question. I'm not saying that this guy deserved to be on the street, but I'm saying I understand how it happened, given our system and the loopholes in it that aren't just about prosecution being soft on crime, but we're soft on mental health and helping. We don't want to fix, we just want to fight. We don't want to fix, they don't want to make it better. But there's an opportunity in that. Where are the better ideas? How do you help people who are living on the street? How do you help people who are out of control with their mental illness so that they don't become a statistic, no matter how small the percentage is. How do we do better killing this guy, is that really the policy fix that's going to make this less likely going forward? Because it would assume that a mentally ill person would know not to commit a crime because they're going to get killed or they're going to get severely punished, which kind of forgets that they may not be able to develop mens rea, the mental component, the intent to commit the crime in the first place because of the illness. And again, I'm not saying that all mentally ill people are violent. They're not. But this is a boogeyman case. They're making it a boogeyman case as proof of how weak and soft the system is. And then the president helps him out. You know, it's like the Bruce Springsteen, one step forwards, two step back. He said the right thing about vaccines, you should follow the science. But now he doesn't want to follow science on this. He says this is for Democrats for letting them out. I mean, why not say how to make it better? Where's that kind of leadership? That's your opportunity in this. Let me tell you. 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One, when people are putting their money where their mouth is, I think they think a little bit more and they make some different calculations. But secondly, it shows where we are as a society in terms of what we think specifically with this issue of crime. Because that's what this is really about is how to use crime as a political device. That's what's going on here. You can't really think you're going to send the National Guard in places and that you're going to have a real demonstrable, long term effect on crime. There's nobody who has any expertise in crime and criminal justice who would go along with that. So what is it really about? It's about hype and it's about politics, and that can be very powerful. So we see it on Kalshi and some of the markets that are being made. Will Trump restore local control of D.C. police before October? Now, why do they say before October? Because the Kelshi guys are smart, first of all. Why? Because that is when he'd have to extend and declare a different kind of emergency and it would be getting litigated and he would lose. And that's why the numbers are prohibitively. Yes, he will restore local control. Do I agree with that? Before October? No, I don't. This is also why I'm a shitty gambler, but I don't. Why? Because 91 to 11, okay, I know that that's 102, but why don't I agree with the 91? Because it's working for Trump and I don't think he's going to stop until he has to. And if it's litigation that tells him he has to stop, he'll appeal and he'll keep it going. Oh, he's a despot. No, he's an opportunist. He's an opportunist and this is working for him. And crime is something he stumbled on that connects with the majority wanting to be safe. You know, I've always heard that in politics. You know, we hear it all the time in every election cycle. People want to be safe. They want to know their kids are safe. And I'm often like, what do you mean by safe? You know, safe of their future, safe of their opportunities. Because, like, the idea that someone's going to come in your house and kill them or kill them on the street is usually a little remote. In most places in America, we are not, you know, drowning in crime. But I get it now. And this is working for him. And it connects with the majority because it's almost an 80, 20 issue. Do you want the federal government to help make your community safer? Who's going to say no? I mean, the how becomes relevant. Right? Which is, well, they're going to send the military in all over the place. Okay. Now, you may have a problem with it, but I think it's really interesting as a political thing that it's, it's a no brainer that the Democrats saying, stay out of Chicago, we got it handled. When they're killing each other hand over fist. It's just a bad look. Wes Moore in Maryland figured that out fast. And he then said, yeah, sure, look, we'll take the help. I disagree about whether or not he's gonna give control back to D.C. now, could I be wrong? 100% terrible gambler. And there is such a freneticism to our politics that it makes it really interesting for people to bet on. And I'm okay with him bet on it. I, I think it gets people invested in a different way. I've certainly seen that in sports. My buddies, now that they're their kids, like my son, they bet on everything every two minutes. I'm worried about addiction, I'm worried about dependency on it and overdoing it. But they certainly care about the games more than they did before it. They watch with this in a way that I can't even imagine watching. For me, it's just entertainment and a little bit of nostalgia. But with them, it's like every play matters. And I think that this could get people to engage. That's my hope anyway. I'm a little bit of an irrational optimist, but I don't think he's going to give it back until he absolutely has to to D.C. so I don't believe it's going to happen before October. We'll see. All right, my friends, thank you for checking out the calcium markets with me and hearing me out about not letting them do it to you with this North Carolina story. Do not let them pervert it for advantage. See it for what it is. Know the facts and realize the play that's being made politically because the division is just getting to desperate levels and we have to counter it. And it is not that this crime didn't matter because it happened to a beautiful young white Ukrainian refugee. That would have only made it more likely to cover it. I don't think people were protecting this guy. The system may have been failing to protect him from himself but two things can be true at once. Don't let them play you for a sucker. I'm Chris Cuomo. Thank you for subscribing and following here at the Chris Cuomo Project. Thank you for checking me out at NewsNation, 8P and 11P Eastern every weekday night. I appreciate you. We all fall short. The problems are real, but the approach of how we get to a better place remains. You gotta get after it every day, every way you can. So let's get after it.

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