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You ever see in the movies where there's a woman who comes in, she has a black eye, and people look and say, what happened? Oh, I bumped into a wall. And everybody's like. Because, you know, she didn't really bump into a wall. Right. We're now supposed to believe that someone in ICE custody, a young man, 31 years old, broke his own skull running into a wall trying to evade arrest. Forget about your gut, your common sense telling you, have you even ever heard that before? Doctors, experts are all questioning this. Why? One, it doesn't make any sense. Two, because this is ice. And as much as I respect, okay. And revere, in a lot of instances, in terms of the duty, first responders, specifically law enforcement, right? Even though I'm a baby firefighter myself, the police, the job they do, amazing. I see it up close on a regular basis because, you know, first responders work with first responders anyway. I do not mean to disparage law enforcement. I don't even mean to disparage ICE as an entity. But the change in culture, the change in personnel, the change in policy seems to have led to a change in purpose. Meaning might makes right, meaning us and them. And in part because of perverse politics and a little bit because the left made a mistake. And I understand why. This situation is certainly not about them other than Biden creating opportunity by letting in so many people illegally. When you said that Trump surrendered in Minneapolis because he brought in Homan and did the right thing, did what they should have done in advance, was sat down with local leaders and said, look, what are you gonna help with? Won't. What won't you? And what is the minimum standard before we have a problem? That's how you should have done it. They didn't do it there, but we eventually got to that point, right? I mean, it took a couple of deaths, slash killings, slash murders, depending on whose opinion you want of American citizens to do it, then it was, you surrendered, Taco, Taco. Now, Trump does not want to work. So what's going to happen going forward? Well, you're seeing it in real time. You're seeing guns pulled out on people. Why? Well, ICE is spooked, and a lot of these people are poorly trained or lightly trained or not trained. They don't engage in public and crowd control. And all this interfacing that they're dealing with right now, it's not what ICE does, Right? Local cops have to deal with a lot of this stuff. Protesting this is not what they're trained to do. This isn't their wheelhouse. So they're not great at it. They're jumpy AF because there's so much pushback against them. Right. Thanks to the Trump administration and. And the way they're choosing to do their jobs. Right. So it is not about just law enforcement. Okay. Foreign. I'm Chris Cuomo. Welcome to the Chris Cuomo Project. I'm on a tear here, and here's why. It would be different if we kept seeing ICE beating the out of bad guys, okay? It's like el Trend, you know? Ms. 13 they got into it and they found him in their house, and there was a shootout and they beat this guy up. You would process it differently. Why? Well, due process matters. We got to do things the right way, even with the wrong people. Amen. Amen. This is America. This is America. Or it was. But it's not with them. It's not with them. It's with protesters, it's with passersby, it's with citizens, it's with people who entered the country illegally and then have been living right ever since and have not committed any crimes here other than that one, which you guys at a convenience want to hold over their head. And that's why I keep telling you it's a misdemeanor. I know the Don Lemons of the world tell you it's not a crime to enter illegally. They're wrong. It just used to be dealt with mostly civilly. I don't mean that in terms of decency. I mean the civil system versus the criminal system. Why? Choice. The politics were different. The needs were different. Okay? We were much more proud. Growth and let's get people in here and let's make it work for as many as we can. We don't feel like that anymore. Is that right or wrong? You tell me. But no, I'll tell you it's wrong. Okay? America is a nation of immigrants. This idea that, like, we can do what they want to do in Europe, which is, hey, man, it means something to be Italian and okay, they're not us. They're not the melting pot, not the way we are. Nobody has ever been what we are trying to be. And you could argue not even us most of the time, but that's the ambition. That's the experiment, Right? So whatever the politics has changed and the administration and the attitude towards force has changed. Might makes right is absolutely a true statement to Donald Trump. Absolutely. Might makes right 100%. Now, they may romanticize it by saying, you know, speak softly and carry a big stick. Well, he's a trash talker and he's got the biggest stick on the planet now at home. That's why ICE is doing what it's doing the way it's doing it, and it's going to continue. Why? Because he, Trump thinks it works for him mostly that it got out of hand in Minneapolis. That may have been a special situation. And he feels he got a little punked there and he doesn't like it. That's why you see what's happening in Los Angeles, okay? And that's why Bovino is still on the job. The head of CBP, that guy with his 40s military coat and his. If they touch you, fucking get them as many as you can. And this is our city. And I mean, this is crazy. I mean it's like out of a post apocalyptic movie of just primitive nature of policing. One of ours, all of yours. That's where we're at. Kristi Noem, they were gonna blame her a little bit. I don't know what happened, but they're leaving it alone for now. But she's kind of quiet. And Tom Holman is back, even though he was out for a second. Why? This is Trump land. It's a rotisserie of who takes the blame. So I don't support comes from Shopify. First of all, fellas, I got my merch shop on Shopify and I'd like a little help seeing how I am a partner. And why did I do that? Because it is about the business behind the business. If you want to sell, if you want your service or your product to get out there, you have to make sure that it's being marketed and sold the right way. Right? Because you're asking yourself these vexing questions. What if no one listens? What if I make a mistake? What if this isn't the way you do it? Shopify is the commerce platform behind millions of businesses. 10% of all E commerce in the U.S. okay, big names, big names. The Chris Cuomo project is in there with Cuomo merch. I mean, you want to be a critical thinker, you want to wear your independence, go through Shopify and you can get my stuff. And you know, I use the money going toward crowdsourcing contributions we can all feel good about as donations. Now on Shopify, you get started with your own design studio. You got hundreds of ready to use templates. Shopify helps you build an online store that will match your brand's style. Efficiency, uploading AI tools, product descriptions, headlines, even enhancing your product photography. It's all right there and available to you for one price. So it's time to turn those what ifs into Ka Ching Shopify. So go to Shopify today, just like I did for the Cuomo merch. Sign up for your $1 a month trial today at shopify.com Chris C. Shopify.com Chris C. I know it works because I did it myself. But I'm telling you, the next couple of things we'll likely see is one, they'll send ICE to a place that's red friendly, but it has an illegal immigrant population. And you'll they'll show the contrast. Look what happens when you work with us. And it'll be a place that's probably light work for them, but they'll still do it and say, see, see, the right is right. And then they're going to go to like New York City or something like that, and they're going to be spoiling for a fight. Now here's what I'm afraid of. The same way that we get fatigue on stories like the first shutdown, we covered like a big deal. Now this shutdown, even though it's not as, not as many people are affected and the snap stuff isn't affected, the food stamps, but this shutdown is like there's no coverage. Why? Well, it's only a partial shutdown. We just had one. And that's how you guys are. If there were a bad shooting, school shooting or something like that, you're, we'd be all into it for a few days, not much longer than that. Used to be weeks, now a few days if you're lucky. And then if there were another one right after it, not much. Okay. Similarly, when they went to Minneapolis, that happened perversely, the instinct of the fatigue, for it to resonate, it's going to have to be more and bigger. And Trump knows that. So the next time he thinks there's going to be a fight and the locals don't want to work with him, guess what he's going to do? He's going to roll in heavy and hard and say, we learned the last time, not this time. You're not putting the men and women who are enforcing the law in jeopardy from people who don't want the law enforced. That's not going to happen. And remember, this is a weird one. The majority in this country absolutely wants people who are dangerous, threats to our security, who are not here legally out. We want anybody who's dangerous to our security to not be able to hurt us. Right. But we are definitely in favor of removing those People. Okay. But we're also definitely not crazy about how ICE has been doing it. So that's kind of a. That's kind of an interesting contrast there. And it creates a maneuverability for Trump to believe he has high ground. And look, this population in New York City, they've got a lot of bad hombres in there, and I'm going to get them. And this Mama Nami, or however he pronounces Mamdani's name in the moment, he won't help us, so I'm coming for him. And they'll probably be clever and pick themselves up a couple of jihadis in the beginning to make Mamdani look like he's protecting them. And there's going to be blood. Not because New Yorkers want to protect jihadis. Believe me, of all places in America that doesn't want to defend jihadis, the home of Ground Zero is absolutely that place. But it's going to get worse. And there's going to be a point of contrast where they're going to show how the red is on, you know, the red, right, and they're doing right, and the blue is bad, and we got to fight back. That's what's going to happen. And this plays into. Well, then what happens? Okay, here's what I'm worried about. On the ground in Minneapolis, we got closer than many people may know to this being a real conflict, this being a real skirmish. You have an increasing number of people on the left who believe they should arm themselves. And you had those fugazi Black Panthers out there. Why do I call them that? Because I think that the Black Panthers organization doesn't accept that those guys are Black Panthers. I don't know, some kind of internecine strife. I don't know. I don't care. But I do believe that there are. There's. They're part of the play here, right? So they're arming themselves. They're protecting their own communities. That's scary stuff when the people you're protecting your community from is the government. Okay. And I've never heard the left so well, because, remember, I'm not old enough, but back in the 60s, you heard the left talking like this. That was the Black Panthers. That's the last time that the right wanted gun control in this country. Did you know that? They passed laws to keep just anybody from getting weapons because they were afraid of black men getting them and protecting themselves and their communities, in their opinion. Ironic, right? And now here we are again with the left saying, hey, what do you mean Alex Preddy wasn't allowed to have a weapon? That's a Second Amendment right. Look, that kind of bothers me. Why? Because Alex Preddy shouldn't have had a weapon where he was. That's why. I know it was legal. I'm saying it shouldn't be legal. I know it's legal. I get why it's legal and it shouldn't be legal. Why? Because I think that this is the kind of shit that happens. And it's a policy argument, it's a political argument, but to hear the left making it, I think they're becoming what they oppose. But I get it, because this is where we are. I gotta counter the other side. I gotta counter the other side. 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People are angry and more and more there is a feeling that talk is not enough and typing is not enough and that action is needed. And I hear it more and more. I used to hear it all the time on the MAGA side. Now I'm hearing it on the left side. Why? Because the left is the disenfranchised. Now MAGA was the disenfranchised. They were the disruption, they were the anti system. Now it's the left because they're out of power and they're saying that the institutions are and they're saying that we've got to disrupt and they're saying that we got to fight back, we've got to resist all the. And they're talking, I mean when did you ever think that you were going to hear the left talking about and defending somebody's right to conceal to carry a concealed firearm arm into a protest and into an altercation with cops? I, I can't even think of the last time I ever heard that. I mean I don't think ever in my lifetime. And again, just transparency. I'm a gun owner. I'm not a concealed carry owner. I'm not a, a carry permit holder. I just, I have long guns and I have them for my own reasons. And so I. I get it. I get the right, but there's the right and then there's the application of that right to law, and then there's what's right for us as a society. And I think all of that is getting very mixed up right now. And might makes right seems to be the order of the day. And it seems that both sides agree on that increasingly. And that's why you see this escalation. That's why I said what I said to Scott Jennings. Not because I wanted to threaten him. Not because I told him, you use that phrase illegals or illegal alien, and I'm going to you up. There was nothing like that. I would never say anything like that. I would never want anything like that. My warning was, you keep getting into these bullying and these power struggle spats, like he did, right? He says, illegal aliens or illegals and. Or both or whatever. And the young lefty guy says, hey, you can't say that anymore, man. It's disrespectful. You got. Or whatever he says. And Scott Jennings jumps on it. He understood the kid's point, but he jumped on it to make a point. And it wasn't just. You don't get to police what I say. That's not what it was. Here's why. Because that's what you say. You don't get. You people with your cancel culture. You don't get to control what I say, especially when this is the wording of the law of the statute. Okay, you crazy lefty. That's it. The conversation's over. It's not what he did. What he did was, how are you going to make me. How are you going to enforce it? And now the kid goes on and starts making some other point and he interrupts him. Wait, I want to get back to this. I don't even know you, brother. How are you gonna. How are you gonna make me do it? How are you gonna enforce that? How are you gonna. He was punking him like a bully. He was punking him. He was basically saying, make me like. Like that. Like in the schoolyard, hey, stop picking. Make me. Make me stop kicking your sister, you know, or whatever it is. And I said, what is true? You gotta lower the temperature. You got to stop escalating with extreme ideas. Saying illegal alien isn't extreme? No. Saying to somebody, basically, let me see you physically stop me is dicey. And by the way, what did we see a few years later? Outbursts of violence, another death in Minneapolis. Am I accusing Scott Jennings? Of course not. What I'm saying is he is symptomatic of something that we are doing more and more here. By the way, by the way, guess who else does it? Hypocrite piece of shit. Me. I do it. And I am. I'm old. And I am highly, highly practiced in de escalation. Verbally, rhetorically and from a combat perspective. In fact, the dominant style of self defense that I employ now is from this guy, Tony Blauer. I tell you about all the time. B L, A, U. Genius. Great guy, Salt of the earth. His whole frame is an avoidance frame. It's a flinch reflex. It's de escalating by its nature. I. I don't want any trouble. I don't want any trouble. And it's genius of how it plays into what you're going to do anyway and the optionality it gives you. Amazing. My point is I know better. Why am I telling people, yeah, you want some? I'm easy to find, Come get me, come make it happen, come stop me. I'm doing the same. Jennings is. Why? Because I'm pissed too. And unlike Jennings, I mean, I guess in that instance maybe he felt he had the upper hand. I'm gonna have the upper hand most of the time. And look, I'm sure there are plenty of guys and quite a few women listening and watching right now who would take my lunch money. But I'll tell you what. You're going to work for it. You're going to work for it. Now even this. What the. What is going on here? This is where we are. This is where we are. I get tired of it too. I don't like you guys shit talking my family, shit talking me, shit talking my dead father. I don't like it. You disrespectful punks. Yeah, and by the way, that's our culture. Okay? I don't know where you were raised, but where I was raised, even in my own family. But where I was raised, you go up and start insulting somebody to their face, you better have your hands up. And that's where we are now. Writ large and even more so. And that's why I'm trying to diffuse it. I'm trying to diffuse it in myself. I'm trying to diffuse it in what I see in each other and what I see that is demonstrative of things getting worse. And this ICE situation, this dynamic is fomenting, it is accelerating. No, it isn't. The worst was over in Minneapolis. It's starting to back off. I don't think so. And There will be a next. And just like we're seeing with the Georgia election, by the way. Well, that sucked, but at least it's over. No, it isn't. They're going back to it. Why? They don't like how it ended. Same thing in Minneapolis. This did not look good for Trump and he's supposed to have the high ground. This is about law and order. The left is off on this. This is why he won. It is going to make him redouble efforts, and there are plenty of communities he can go to where the ICE folks will be treated like shit no matter what they do. And that will give him an opportunity to escalate. And I don't know that he'll be the only one who wants to do that. And in fact, I don't think he will be. And that is a real problem. That's why I'm trying to call it out, because I know something about who listens and watches. You are critical thinkers. You are different. You are free agents. Even if you still have those stubborn partisan leanings, you are increasingly seeing yourself as an independent who does not want to be owned by one of two toxic teams. And this being the only thing in your life that you appraise a value in terms of which is worse. Right? Pea soup, poo poo sandwich, not good choices. Right. We skip a meal in that case. In our politics, we're consistently choosing one of those. And I get it, I get it. 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Do not accept the explanation from a federal agency tells you where we are. Now the fact that a federal agency would put out that explanation also tells you where we are. And I'll tell you here's why. If I'm in that situation and I'm chasing somebody and they run into a wall and they break their own skull, guess what I'm doing? I'm documenting the out of it. Okay? I'm Gonna have them on tape saying, I ran into the wall, I broke my head. I'm showing pictures of it in the moment. I'm showing the wall, I'm. This looks bad. Okay. You know what it's like, you know, in a weird way not to, not to make humor or make fun of it, trivialize it. When the big brother hits the little brother and the little brother starts to cry and they don't want mom to come and get mad at the big bro. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I love you. It's okay. It's okay. It's okay. Don't cry. Don't cry, don't cry. That's what this reeks up to me, that ice breaks a guy's head, hypothetically, and then tries to cover it up with some bullshit apologetic thing. Oh yeah, he ran into a wall. It's an excuse. Structure doesn't make sense. And look, you can say metaphor doesn't work for me. There's no apology here. Fair, fair. But I'm just, I'm just trying to give you some way to relate to it. I just don't believe where we are. And I think it's a function of where we're going, which is more violence, more extremism, more escalation, especially as there's more pressure and stress. As we get closer to the midterms because there's so much at stake for both sides, the desperation will raise. What are we going to do about it? We're going to come together as the majority that reject right and left in favor of right and wrong. And we're going to remember all we agree on. And you're going to reward people like me who are telling you how things are and how they can be and reminding of what we are at our best, not just why the other side deserves our worst. That's what we're going to do. We're going to fact check. We're going to be full throated in what we see as right and wrong and why. And God forbid we discuss what would be better than where we are and what we're doing. And we're going to stay on it. We're going to stay on it and we're going to push our leaders to do the right thing. They have to change how ICE does what it does in these scenarios. And even the President understands that until the left gives him an excuse to pivot and go back to full on might makes right F A F O one of ours. All of yours, which still stands as the worst bit of political messaging in my professional time. A federal agency putting a message out to other Americans, one of ours, all of yours. When they are ours, they belong to us. They work for us. 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Date: February 17, 2026
Host: Chris Cuomo
In this charged episode, Chris Cuomo tackles the escalating crisis surrounding U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), focusing on a recent, disputed incident of violence in ICE custody and what it foretells about political and civil unrest in America. Drawing on his background as a journalist and his identity as an independent thinker, Cuomo explores the cultural and institutional shifts that have made federal law enforcement—and ICE in particular—a flashpoint issue. He dissects how the rhetoric and tactics around immigration enforcement have changed under various administrations, and issues a warning about what rising tensions could mean for American civil society.
"We’re now supposed to believe that someone in ICE custody, a young man, 31 years old, broke his own skull running into a wall... Forget about your gut, your common sense telling you—have you even ever heard that before? Doctors, experts are all questioning this."
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"America is a nation of immigrants... Nobody has ever been what we are trying to be... That’s the ambition. That’s the experiment. Right?"
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"The next time he thinks there’s going to be a fight and the locals don’t want to work with him, guess what he’s going to do? He’s going to roll in heavy and hard and say, we learned the last time, not this time."
(14:40)
"I’ve never heard the left so—you know, because, remember, I’m not old enough, but back in the 60s, you heard the left talking like this. That was the Black Panthers. That’s the last time the right wanted gun control in this country."
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"My point is I know better. Why am I telling people, yeah, you want some? I’m easy to find, come get me, come make it happen, come stop me. I’m doing the same Jennings is. Why? Because I’m pissed too."
(22:00)
"We’re going to come together as the majority that rejects right and left in favor of right and wrong. And we’re going to remember all we agree on."
(34:20)
Cuomo’s analysis is both impassioned and sobering, painting a picture of a society teetering toward dangerous escalation as government, media, and grassroots actors all play into cycles of confrontation. He challenges listeners not only to see through manipulative narratives—whether from ICE, the Trump administration, or partisan media—but to actively reject the logic of might-makes-right in favor of principled independence.
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