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Dan Farah
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Chris Cuomo
Restrictions apply. See Amazon.com amazonprime for details. Did you know that there are answers to what's in the sky? To whether or not we are alone, to whether or not there are technologies that we don't understand that have been infiltrating our most sensitive spaces for a long time and people have known and not told you. Have you heard about the age of disclosure? Oh, you need to know what's in this documentary and what major political figures, okay. Like our Secretary of State, who's also the National Security Advisor to the President of the United States, believes you haven't been told. I'm Chris Cuomo. Welcome to the Chris Cuomo Project. Dan Farah, okay. He is a known producer and manager, filmmaker, but he has never done anything like this and we have never gotten the benefit of anything like this. He's got almost three dozen major players, many of whom are in elected federal office right now, talking about the need for transparency and what they know and can legally tell you. And why is that even a thing? Why is there a legal restriction at all about non human intelligence? What they have found in crafts, where those crafts have been, what they know about them and what you don't know, and most importantly, why. And it seems like something's going to happen that I never expected positive change. We're going to learn more because people in positions of leadership are realizing they've been kept out of the circle also. Now, does this have to mean little green men? Not to me. It's about transparency in a government that's supposed to be by the people, of the people and for the people. 80 years you've been doing things with our money and our resources and our military and never telling us anything, anything. And in fact, you've done the opposite. You've lied again and again and again. Republican, Democrat, everything in between. Lied about what you were doing with our money and our resources that does affect our national intelligence and making choices for us that you never even discussed with us. This is huge. It's not just a documentary. It's a change moment and it is a step in the right direction. Listen to Dan Farah tell you what he learned and what there is still to know. Dan, congratulations on the age of disclosure. What has been the response to the film?
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Dan Farah
It's been amazing across the board, from the public, on social media, people's eyes are really being open to how real and serious the situation is. And then behind the scenes, it's made a big impact in D.C. so far. I've been getting side messages and calls from very senior senators, people involved in the administration. Everyone thinks that this film is going to move disclosure forward on a very high level. The president's gonna have to put something in motion in response to this, I think. So we'll see what that is.
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Chris Cuomo
So before we get to what you care about, let's talk about what you don't care about. So for those who say, wow, Dan Farah, Ready? Player one, the Shannara Chronicles. You know, Sword of Shannara was very big for me as a D and D guy. So he's gone tinfoil hat. That's weird. What do you say to them?
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Dan Farah
Well, look, I think, you know, when people make jokes like tinfoil hat jokes, they're really leaning into an illogical, antiquated stigma. There's no reason for a stigma around this topic. You know, at the end of the day, the reality of it is UAP are real. The most senior people in our government have made that very clear. You know, our Secretary of State, National Security Advisor is on camera, My film going on the record saying that we have objects that we can't explain. Aircraft. They're not ours. We don't know whose they are. And they're penetrating our nuclear weapons sites and our military bases, and that is a problem. So to make any jokes about that scenario is just as stupid as making jokes about terrorist threats to commercial airlines. You know, it makes no sense. Like, it is nonsensical, it is wrong, and it's not in anyone's best interest.
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Chris Cuomo
So did anybody tell you, oh, man, why are you doing this? There's so many other projects. Why do you want to get into that now?
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Dan Farah
You know, I had a lot of people actually saying to me, you know, everyone in the world is fascinated with this topic, and you're uniquely situated to get access that normal people can't. And that if you're in a position to make the definitive film on what is actually known by credible people in our government who have direct knowledge, then do it. Go do it. You know, I like a lot of people. You know, my childhood was the 80s and early 90s. I grew up on movies like ET and Close Encounters and TV shows like X Files and that pop culture I grew up with made me curious about this topic, just like it made a lot of other people curious. Right. You know, everyone's interest is fueled by something. And unless you happen to see a UFO as a kid, your interest is probably motivated by the same stuff that motivated me. Pop culture, film, tv, books. And so my whole life I've consumed all the content out there on this topic. But I always wished that someone had made a documentary that only interviewed the people who have direct knowledge of this topic as a result of working for the US government, like set the bar there at this very credible place and have those people tell us what they lawfully can share. Now, none of these guys ever wanted to in the past be the one guy out on a limb saying something extraordinary, even on the biggest news shows that exist, because they knew what would happen if they were out on a limb by themselves. Their reputation would be attacked, their career would be messed with. People would make the dumb tinfoil hat jokes and try to make them look silly. And then they also had to worry about the fact that people's lives have been threatened for speaking up about this stuff. For people who really know what's going on, they've, they've, they are aware of the threats. So, you know, I gave them safety in numbers. I gave them a situation where they could be arm in arm with other extremely credible people, step up in a safe way and share, share their truth with, with the American public and with the world at large.
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Chris Cuomo
How did you do that? How did you get. I Forget what it is, 34, 38, whatever. But like everybody in the piece is legit now, obviously I'm a real one, right? I mean, I've been on, for me, it's all about transparency. And what I want to talk to you most is where you say what they leg share. I am fascinated about why there is any restriction on this and we'll, and we'll get deeper on that. But how did you get, you know, you, you have left and right sitting down, trying to be reasonable about one of the third rails in politics. How did you do it and what was how, what was your degree of surprise that you got both sides?
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Dan Farah
Well, early on, long story short, I got introduced to a few senior intelligence officials who had worked on this topic early on. People like Lou Elizondo and Jay Stratton, Hal Puthoff, Chris Mellon, some senior people on the Senate Intelligence Committee staff and the Senate Armed Services Committee staff who want to remain in the shadows. And I started socializing them Socializing with them, what I wanted to achieve and what I wanted to do. And they each introduced me to people that were involved with this topic on behalf of the US government who at the time were in the shadows. And then those people, when I met with them, they would introduce many people. It was kind of like going down a rabbit hole where one door led to another door. And I think one of the most surprising things I learned early on was how truly bipartisan this is. Leaders in both parties think it's the most important issue of our time. They don't hesitate to say that they are completely aligned. And these are people who are not aligned ideologically or politically in any other way. And so that's a set of circumstances that exist. They all know how important this is. And I really felt like they all felt a weight on their shoulders about knowing things that the public should be aware of. And you've done a million interviews. This was a first for me. It's not only the first film I directed, but the first time I conducted interviews on camera, you know, and I'm the one sitting there talking to them. I really felt it. I felt like they were getting something off their chest. I felt like they were relieved when the interviews finished. And I felt like they all knew this was important to share what they could. And yes, there is an over classification of this topic. There's a lot of information that probably should not be classified, but it is. And so they were only able to share what they lawfully could. Now the fascinating thing about that is that like what is on the other side of the line, you know, you got to use your imagination. But if, if all the bombshells in this film, all this paradigm shift information that got revealed, if that can be lawfully disclosed, you know, what the hell's on the other side of that line that can't be disclosed?
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Chris Cuomo
Why do you term it an 80 year cover up?
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Dan Farah
So the interview subjects in my film reveal that the deeply hidden crash retrieval and reverse engineering program that has been capturing, retrieving and reverse engineering technology of non human origin in the US has been going on since Roswell. And so that, you know, that's 80 years. They've also told me that recovery started prior to Roswell during World War II. In fact, I don't go in to that history deeply in the film, but yeah, this has been going on for 80 years. And it's not only happening in our country, it's happening in adversarial nations and allied nations as well. It's happening all over the world. And one of the things that was revealed in the film through my interview subjects and that they're all very concerned about is this high stakes, secret Cold War race we're in with adversarial nations to reverse engineer this technology. And the country they're most worried about is China by far. And we know the intentions of China are not good. We know that China wants to replace the United States at the, you know, top of the world order. And myself and everyone I interview think it's important that the US lead in this technology race and put all the brain power and resources that our country has towards this issue.
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Chris Cuomo
Our problem is that we would rather divide ourselves than come together in this common cause. Hopefully this film is part of a reset of what our priorities should be. You know, you also answer a question indirectly that has plagued a lot of people in this topic for years, which is, if this shit is so universal, how come we only hear about it in America and in a handful of states? And the answer to that question is because everybody else is smart enough to shut up and realize how important this is. And in America we love to play with conspiracies and talk, you know, our heads off. And it has been happening everywhere else. It's just people were smart enough to take it seriously and keep it quiet for their own advantage. And that takes us to one of the main revelations which is that this is a conspiracy of non human intelligence and development. What does that phrase mean to you? Non human intelligence.
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Dan Farah
So the people in my film that I interview reveal that non technology of non human origin exists. Technology that was not made by humans. Non human intelligent life made this technology. They've also go on the record saying how some of the UAP that have crashed and been recovered had non human bodies in them. They go on the record saying that the body types have not all been the same, meaning multiple species. This is, this is what my interview subjects share. And so my understanding is that humanity is in a melting, you know, amongst a lot of other life out there in the galaxy that has come here and that there are multiple other species. And I think it's only a matter of time before more gets disclosed on, on that and what is known. But I think it's really brave of the people in my film to speak up and make it clear that technology of non human origin has been recovered by elements of the US government and private defense contractors. And in some cases there have been non human bodies in those crashed vehicles. That is extraordinary. You know, 100%.
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Chris Cuomo
It's a mind blowing Suggestion that will immediately be discounted and shot down, which is why it's so impressive that you have such a phalanx of known entities of legitimacy that are involved in the conversation. What is the chance, in your opinion, that this is about AI and not extraterrestrial? That this is about technology that is non human, but it's not that there is another organic, sentient being behind it?
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Dan Farah
I mean, I don't personally have any reason to believe that. I do trust the people I interviewed, and too many of them were aware of non human bodies being collected at these crash sites. The other thing everyone's got to remember when they watch this movie is the people who speak up to say these extraordinary things. They're taking a lot of risk. Their reputation's on the line. Their name is on the line. They all hold security clearances that they don't want pulled. None of them have any benefit to lying. Right? They have a lot to lose by lying. They have a lot to lose by making false claims. And so, you know, to me, that's the greatest evidence because you could, Chris, you could put a 4K video of a UFO taken from a security camera on a nuclear weapons base on your show. And the reality of it is where we are as a people is half the population will tell you it's generated by AI or the result of some Hollywood visual effects company, right? And half will believe it. That's crazy, you know, and so I think the most valuable evidence in this day and age is people putting their reputation and their name on the line and telling you what they know to be true. And so that's why it was so important to me to stack this film with these super credible senior people who have real knowledge and put their rep on the line to share. Running a business comes with a lot of what ifs.
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Chris Cuomo
Do me a favor and help me understand. And we don't want to give away everything but the you classify seven or eight or nine different kinds of crafts that have been collected in different ways underwater, you know, all these different things do. Can you help us do the exposition on that? Like what you learned about the range of different types of things they found.
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Dan Farah
Well, it's not different types of crafts in the film. Some of the intelligence officials who investigate this topic break down the flight performance characteristics of uap. Like the things, the things we see these craft doing.
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Chris Cuomo
Right, right.
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Dan Farah
And I mean, and simply put, it's. The way to sum it all up is simply put, these craft are performing in ways that our most advanced aircraft cannot. You know, they are doing things we cannot. And ranging from, you know, the speed at which they travel to the fact that they are capable of trans medium travel, they can go from space to the air into the ocean seamlessly. We do not have any aircraft that can do that. You know, they, they, they seem to defy the effects of gravity. There's a laundry list of qualities they display, performance capabilities they display that just far surpass our most advanced technology. And, and more concerning than how much more advanced they are is the fact that they are regularly penetrating our military bases, our defense capabilities, our nuclear weapons sites. I mean, Rubio is on camera saying we have these things over our most restricted classified airspace over nuclear weapons sites. And that alone, that statement alone demands urgent inquiry, it demands urgent investigation, it demands to be taken seriously. So I think no matter how people have to look at it, whether they have to tell themselves, okay, this is an adversarial nation, it's not non human intelligence, that's the way I'm going to wrap my head around it. Right. No matter how you got to look at it, it's an issue that has to be dealt with and has to be taken seriously. And my hope is the film completely puts the nail in the coffin of the stigma. Anyone who watches this film who has any common sense, has a functioning brain, knows it's not a joke, it's not a laughing matter, and it would be crazy to make fun of people for telling us the truth about it.
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Chris Cuomo
I mean, look, you know, even if you tiptoe into it the way I have as a trans, as a transparency story, you know this, it doesn't make sense that a government that works for the people, that's supposed to be by the people, spends all this money, all this time, special operators, all kinds of sophistication, and we don't know anything about it and they don't tell us anything about it, and they actually do what they don't do with anything else, which is deny that they're even doing what we know that they are doing. And in that context, where did your own efforts leave you? What are your big Questions that you didn't have before?
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Dan Farah
Well, I mean, simply put, if these, if the people, the 34 people I interviewed, if these extraordinary bombshells, they reveal this paradigm shift information, they reveal, if that's what they can lawfully disclose, it begs the obvious question of what is on the other side of that line. What is the truth that is still classified. Do they know more about intentions? Has there been contact that has informed where they come from, what their intentions are? I don't know. It obviously would make anyone extremely, anyone who watches this extremely curious about what's on the other side of that line. I think that what's also extraordinary is how the film ended up shining a light on systemic issues inside of the government that exist not only on this topic, but other topics like lack of oversight. You know, Rubio breaks down very transparently how the secret program that has been capturing and reverse engineering this stuff and dealing with and defense contractors involved, all of it's been kept from the public, from Congress, and even the President of the United States is on a need to know basis. And as he articulates, he says the problem with putting information in the hands of private contractors is that over time, the government overseers lose oversight. Someone dies, retires, leaves government. The next guy knows a little bit about the program that was before him. The guy after that doesn't know anything about the program. And the guy after that doesn't even know it ever existed. But the defense contractor that's working, working on it, they keep moving it along. And that, that creates problems for, for basic governmental oversight.
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Chris Cuomo
I never thought that I would reach a place where the movie Men in Black is not that crazy to me. You know, like when I, when I watch it and it makes me think George Lucas is even more of a genius, that he was able to find people to help him construct what at the time was believed to be a surreality that now is technologically and even in terms of our imagination, very much within. But the obvious question for me is after watching the film, so if they're so good in so many ways and have so many advantages, why the mystery? Why wouldn't they come down and present themselves? Why wouldn't they do really bad shit that you can't hide? You know, if they're gonna, why are they hanging out over our nuclear and our military sites but never doing anything to them? What do you make of that?
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Dan Farah
So a big concern shared by everyone I interviewed is the UAP activity over our nuclear site specifically. And it's not just nuclear weapon sites. It's any site involved in the nuclear process. And this activity, this UAP activity has increased in line with our progress in harnessing nuclear energy. And the, the educated theory, the leading theory is that UAP and the intelligent life controlling them are very concerned about our technological progress and the fact that in the last 80 years we have developed rapidly to the place where we are either in our black programs doing what they're doing or close to doing what they're doing in terms of flight performance. And so if you put yourself in the shoes of a more advanced species, you might be concerned that humanity, a violent species that threatens nuclear war to each other and we invade, still invading sovereign nations. 80 years after World War II, we're still threatening to use nuclear weapons. 80 years after a bomb was dropped on Japan that vaporized many lives in an instant, we're still a violent species despite the fact that we've developed technologically. And so there's a concern that we might be barreling towards a crossroads where a more advanced, intelligent species has to contend with us in a way that they deal with us in a way that they didn't expect and don't want to. So the monitoring of our nuclear sites is believed by many to be about the monitoring of our progress to the point where we're going to be a problem.
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Chris Cuomo
Look, it's certainly within the realm of intellectual possibility, right? I mean, the greatest likelihood is if it's military and nuclear, it's adversaries, it's human adversaries, that's who cares about our nuclear capabilities and military capabilities. And that's who's sending things around is our enemies. And even if it's not exclusive of that, that certainly has to be part of it. And to me that's always been my pushback to people. It's like if I can't give you the whole enchilada, if I can't prove that they have like, you know, two or three aliens living in a, somewhere, you know, doing a 50 year debrief, then you don't give a shit about the issue. And to me it's like there are different levels of this. What if it's China or Iran or a private contractor working for China or Iran and they have been successfully getting drones because we don't have the surveillance or the, the, the, the countermeasure ability to deal with that many drones at once that can come across and do things? That's enough of a concern that deserves transparency.
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Dan Farah
Yeah, I mean, look, some of the people in my film say that some of the uap, we're seeing, in their opinion, are non human intelligent life technology. And then some might be the result of programs that adversarial nations have for reverse engineering that technology. And some of them might be the result of our programs to reverse engineer that technology. There's several things going on here, but certainly if even a small percent of the UAP penetrating our nuclear weapon sites and our military bases are an adversarial nation, it's the biggest intelligence failure in the history of the United States government by far. And it needs to be taken seriously. And you know, both Rubio and Clapper make a really interesting point in the film. They say that throughout the history of our country, typically it takes an intelligence failure that has horrible consequences for us to act and change the way we deal with things. Right? So for example, Rubio says never in a million years would we have thought the Japanese could hit us at Pearl harbor with their torpedoes. But they figured out how to do it, how to get the torpedoes through the straits, right? And never in a million years did we think terrorists were going to come to the United States and fly, trained to fly commercial airlines airplanes and then use them in a, in a terror attack. Right. And then they did. And you know, when 9, 11 happened, the public was outraged. We all said, hey, our leaders need to put more resources towards counterterrorism. Our intelligence community needs to share information better. There was obviously intelligence sharing gaps there. Our response as a nation was we created the Director of National Intelligence position to create a synergy between the intelligence community, members of the intelligence community, and we threw tons of resources, money and brain power towards counterterrorism efforts. Right. And so their point was they hope that it doesn't take something bad happening regarding this topic for us to take it serious as a nation. They want to get ahead of it. They want the public and every decision maker inside of government, military intelligence community to know this is a valid area of inquiry. This is a serious national security concern. Resources need to be put towards it, the stigma needs to be killed and information needs to be shared so that we can all collectively look out for the safety of the nation and make sure that this technology race is won by the United States and not an adversarial nation.
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Chris Cuomo
If you had to pick somebody who you believe will do the most to break the veil of. I'd like to tell you, but I can't. Do you think it would be Marco Rubio, Kirsten Gillibrand, Anna Paulina Luna, Tim Burchett, or Cory Booker?
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Dan Farah
Rubio, hands down, look I think Rubio does that in this film. He makes it clear this is serious, this is real, this needs to be looked at differently than it is now. He's putting himself out there and he's been doing that. And he's the most second. He's arguably the second most powerful person in the world right now. He's not only our Secretary of State, he's the National Security Advisor. He's been aware of the facts around this for a long time. He was Vice Chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee when they started looking into this. He has been driving the conversation for a long time and I'm glad he's in the position he is now because I think he's going to do the right thing and make sure that this is taken seriously.
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Chris Cuomo
What do you think happens next?
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Dan Farah
Look, I think it's only a matter of time before we have a sitting president step to the microphone, tell the world we're not alone in the universe and that the US intends to lead the way and put in motion plans for doing that. I think it's only a matter of time before there's a committee of sorts appointed by the President to assess the situation and what can be declassified and shared with the public. I think it's only a matter of time before considerable amount of resources are put towards this technology race and, and putting us in a position where it no longer has to only be handled by money hidden in black projects, where it's more of an overt above board effort. I think you can look back to the last significant technology race, the space race. How did that work for us? Kennedy stepped to the microphone and gave a big passionate speech saying that the US intends to lead the way and to win that race. And he likens it to the nuclear race. In that speech he says like, like nuclear technology. Space technology has no conscious of its own. It's up to man whether they use it for good or bad. And that is why it's imperative the US lead the way so it can play a role in deciding how that technology is used and hopefully for the betterment of mankind. Same, same kind of thing.
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Dan Farah
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Chris Cuomo
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Dan Farah
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Chris Cuomo
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Dan Farah
Look, you know, some of the people in my film. Well, to quote Chris Mellon, he says in the film, you know, Chris Mellon was a former dependent Defense Department official. He says, you know, it's important to remember that there might be something so dark and disturbing that there's a rationale for it not being shared with the public that looks, anything's possible, obviously, but I think the base fact, the fact that we're not alone in the universe, I think the American public can handle this. At this point. I don't think the average person's going to lose their mind and start jumping out of windows because they found out there's other intelligent life. I think at this point, we've evolved to a place where the average person would probably be inspired by that and probably think, oh, wow, there's, you know, that's a humbling realization. There's more. There's more than us out there, you know, and, and, and they've evolved and they figured out how to have technology more advanced than us. Maybe if we play our cards right, we could benefit from that.
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Chris Cuomo
I think it would be, if it isn't already the biggest violation of our sovereignty that has ever been perpetrated on the American people. If it is the case that there has been a basis of understanding for a day, let alone a decade, let alone almost a century, that the answer to the question of whether or not we are alone from a metaphysical existential perspective is no, we are not alone. And we know that. As a matter of fact, I think that alone, I, I think one of the hard things, because the easy conclusion is I'm going to be the guy I'm gonna. When I'm. When I become president, I'm coming right out. We can't even get these guys to put out the Kennedy files, okay? We can't even get them to put out the Epstein files, let alone the Kennedy files. There is an institutional bias that goes way beyond any juvenile notion of the deep state as articulated by pod bros. There is too big a price, sometimes too big a burden of being the one to say something, even if you had nothing to do with it, even if you had nothing to do with it, just to say, look, turns out the CIA knew that Kennedy was going to get hit, kind of let it happen even if you have nothing to do with that, you weren't even alive at the time. They don't want to do it, so why would they ever want to own this?
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Dan Farah
I think there's just too much at stake at this point. You know, I think the people who have found out the truth about this, like Rubio, they know that this needs to become a major national priority. We need to put all the resources we possibly can towards this. We need to put all the brain power of our nation towards it. And it's impossible to do that if the average person doesn't know it's real. And so those base facts need to come out. Here's the other thing you got to remember. There's been, it's not as simple as a President saying, hey, how come the President hasn't told us the truth yet? Presidents are still trying to find out. Even our current President are trying to find out all the answers to these questions. Cuz they've been kept in the dark. One of the big film moments in the film is Rubio goes On the Record and he says, I think a lot, this is almost word for word, he says, I think a lot of people think the President can go in the Oval Office on the first day and say, take me to Roswell, show me the bodies, open the whole thing up. And then he says, I think that is a naive understanding of how our government works. He doesn't say, I think that's a naive understanding of what exists and what information there is. He says, I think that's a naive understanding of how our government works. And then he follows it by saying that even presidents have been kept on a need to know basis about this topic and that it is the career bureaucrats, many levels beneath them, inside of various agencies and branches of the military and at defense contractors who keep this information and essentially just wait them out. They see these people come and go. Presidents, White House Security Council members, National Security advisors, senators, they come and go. And so their attitude is, I have no reason to sort of like share this information up the, up the chain of command and I'll just wait them out. And that has ramped at it, to quote Rubio, again, that has ramped out of control. And I do think that President Trump is making the most focused effort at learning all the information that has been kept from sitting presidents. I think he is all over it right now.
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Chris Cuomo
That is a sad commentary because their level of transparency hasn't even eclipsed what we got from the Biden administration yet. Now he does have a couple of his people as an advantage. You know, I don't remember anybody trying to own this politically. You now have multiple Republicans that talk about it on a regular basis. That's good. Do you believe that Secretary Rubio believes that the American government has proof of non human life?
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Dan Farah
I will let Rubio speak for himself. You know, he really went to great lengths in, in the film to say what he was comfortable saying on, on the record, but does not go there.
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Chris Cuomo
I don't want to give it away. People have to hear it and they'll assess it for themselves because they can come away with a different impression. Which you are suggesting right now.
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Dan Farah
I think that he is more aware of the reality of the situation than anyone inside of the administration right now. That's what I think. And I think there's only been one time in the history of our country where the Secretary of State and the National Security Advisor have been the same person. It was Henry Kissinger for two years. It's a very rare set of circumstances. It gives one person an incredible amount of access to information and an incredible amount of power. And I, I personally am relieved to know that someone who takes this issue as seriously as Rubio does is in that position of power. I feel like he. We're lucky that he's in that situation right now.
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Chris Cuomo
You know, it's interesting. We've never had. Well, that's not true. I can't say never. Rubio is on the junior level of the scale of people who have been NSA or Secretary of State. You know, I mean, still relatively a young guy. I mean, he was senator for what, 14 years or so. I mean, you know, a couple. A couple of terms plus. But, you know, not a military guy, not a law enforcement guy, not an intelligence world guy. And now he is in the pole position on what matters to American national security as it affects not only our own domestic operations, but really as Secretary of State, what we communicate and articulate abroad.
- [38:17]
Dan Farah
Yeah, and, and look, one of the powerful moments in the film when speaking about the technology race regarding UAP technology, the technology race, war with adversarial nations. He essentially says that if, you know, it's important we get our act together as a nation because to quote him, he says, because otherwise we'll wake up one day and we'll find out that China got there before we did. And we won't know how they did it or when they did it, but we will be screwed. Those are exact words out of his mouth. And being the person doing the interview sitting a few feet from him, I Could feel how concerned he was about that. And so I think it's imperative, as he says, that we put all the resources we can towards this. We put all the brain power we can towards this. We got to get the scientific community and academia realizing that this is a valid area of inquiry, that they should be putting their brain power towards this. He talked in the interview, I didn't put this in the film, but he talked about the space race and how this single space race ended up leading to something like 35,000 other inventions that we use daily in the United States that impact our way of life. And he makes the point of, we don't know what's going to come out of taking this more seriously. We might be pursuing it at first for national security reasons, but then we might end up making a breakthrough that wildly impacts our lives for the better in some other way. The scientist that I interviewed in my film who worked on classified UAP programs, they believe that this technology holds the solutions to the energy crisis. They believe this technology can lead to interstellar travel, to breakthroughs that were the stuff of science fiction just a few years ago, could change the trajectory of our species if we take it more seriously. Rubio also talked in the interview about how he hopes that sharing these basic truths inspires young people to want to get into engineering and science and pursue those kind of careers. Because there's a who another lifetime of, you know, scientific research and breakthroughs to do based on what we're learning now.
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Chris Cuomo
How did this change you?
- [40:34]
Dan Farah
It made me realize that. How? It made me realize how much is known by our government that is not shared with the public. It was extremely eye opening that secrets on this level could be kept from the public. Your average person, I think, assumes the same as I did a lot of my life, which is there's no way the government could keep something like this truly secret if it was real. It's hard to believe, but secrets can be kept. And it makes you wonder what other secrets have been kept. And Rubio says in the interview I did with him, I don't think this is. Yeah, it's not in the film, but he says, he says, look, we found out in the 70s that the intelligence community had programs to assassinate foreign leaders and that's why the Intelligence Committee was created. Right. History has shown that the American people keep finding out about secrets that the government keeps from it. And that to me is really shocking to the extent to which that is true.
- [41:44]
Chris Cuomo
So now what? Now Dan Farah has answers, but a whole new crop of questions. A growing sense of urgency and expanding expectations. Do we get age of disclosure 2? Do we get a series about it? What do we get?
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Dan Farah
What do we get? A lot of people have been asking me that the last few days. Look, I do think I might end up doing Age Disclosure Part two. We'll see. I'm very curious what the government reaction, official reaction is going to be in the coming months to this film. I do know that leaders in our government are actively huddling right now.
- [42:27]
Chris Cuomo
Well, they can't piss on it. There are too many people involved. Yeah, I mean, you know, maga's not going after Rubio, right? I mean that's, that's not going to happen. And Anna Paulina, Luna and Burchett, I have them both on. They're both very popular within the MAGA caucus.
- [42:42]
Dan Farah
They're awesome.
- [42:43]
Chris Cuomo
You know, so you're not going to.
- [42:44]
Dan Farah
Go after them and the issue?
- [42:45]
Chris Cuomo
You know, I mean, I guess the Democrats could get up on it, but do they really want to, do they really want to call everybody who, who sees what's in the air and say, you guys are nuts, you believe in aliens, you whack jobs? I don't think so.
- [42:58]
Dan Farah
Well, you know, the average person doesn't know that Senator Schumer and Gillibrand from New York and Senator Rounds from South Dakota co sponsored an historic bipartisan piece of legislation called the UAP Disclosure Act. And they are actively fighting. Right. To get that into the National Defense Authorization act, which the President typically signs right before Christmas. And they have full support in the Senate. They are trying to get full support in the House. Last year they tried to push this forward as well and they got full support in the Senate but they got blocked in the House. Now the individual who blocked them in the House is gone and no longer in position to do that. And I was told as of this morning that it seems like the film has helped rally the support they need in.
- [43:48]
Chris Cuomo
Oh, I'm sure.
- [43:49]
Dan Farah
And find out soon if they're going to get it in to back into the National Defense Authorization Act. And I think there's a really good.
- [43:55]
Chris Cuomo
Chance timing's also on your side because of Epstein. We're in, we're in hyper transparency mode right now, which is everybody wants to see everything. I think with Epstein people are going to be unsatisfied, let alone with this because there's actually a real culture of secrecy and non disclosure around this, whereas Epstein is just a boogeyman. But this is real and there have been two generations of people who've had careers based on understanding the extent of contact and technological exploration and what that means for other countries and for us. So where does it leave us in terms of where do we take the conversation? What do you want to happen next? If it's chasing after Chuck's bill, it may happen, but I don't think it'll be the game changer we would want it to be from a transparency perspective, not least of which is because Schumer's attached to it and he's just such a naked opportunist that he's not going to get in enough buy in from both sides.
- [45:00]
Dan Farah
Well, what I hope to have happen at base level is I hope the average person watches this film, realizes how serious and real this situation is, goes and tells their friends and family to watch it, and you get this sort of wildfire realization which just spreads across our society where everyone realizes how real and serious this is, the stigma ends once and for all, and people make their voices heard. Social media gives everyone this great platform. You can reach out to your elected representatives. You could tweet out or put messages on Facebook to the President of the United States, and there's a good chance he could see it. You know, like, make your voices heard. Let your elected leaders know that this is something the people want taken seriously. And we want more transparency. And I think that if the public makes enough noise and the media makes enough noise, which thank God, they are right now, we will see change. I think at the end of the day, our representatives have to react to what the public is demanding.
- [46:03]
Chris Cuomo
If you were in an alleyway and you had to fight either Tim Burchett or Anna Paulina Luna to get out of that alleyway, which one would you choose to fight?
- [46:17]
Dan Farah
I love both of them. They both have my back. And they're both.
- [46:20]
Chris Cuomo
They are both going to kill you. In my hypothetical, the question is, which one do you think you would have a better chance of getting out of the alleyway against?
- [46:31]
Dan Farah
I can't answer that. I think they're both amazing. They've been super supportive, and the two of them, and Congressman Carson from the Democratic Party helped me organize a secret private screening for senior members of Congress that we held in the Capitol in a private room. And several of the people from my film came and we did a long private talk after that. And they're taking this incredibly seriously. And they're using it to help rally support in the House and the Senate for taking this more seriously and to put pressure on the administration to step up. They're really doing great things behind the scenes and other House members who are doing that, It's Congressman Carson. It's Congressman Burleson Moskowitz from Florida. Democrat Jared. They're all taking it really serious behind the scenes.
- [47:19]
Chris Cuomo
Yeah, they should. Because even if you believe nothing, the lack of disclosure is unacceptable. There's been too much money spent on this for you to wipe it away as well. It's a national security. It can't be a national security issue. When you say it's a nothing burger. It can't be both. So I think you are telling the right story at the right time and in my opinion, for the right reasons. But you're a big fat liar, because we both know you would fight Burchett. We both know that, you know, Anna Paulina Luna is gonna do something nasty right off the bat with her hands raised, saying, look, I just wanna talk, and then she's gonna, like, cut you right across. Something like that going to happen. No way. You go and birch it 100 to 0. We both know it. All right. You don't have to answer, but I know that's the answer. You're too smart to see it any other way.
- [48:17]
Dan Farah
That's funny. Can I tell you one other thing, Chris? You know, it's something else that I expect to see happen out of. Out of all this. And Rubio touches on this in the film. The people who have been involved in covering this up for 80 years, these people aren't villains, right? They're not. They're not villains in a comic book story. They're people who were doing a job that they were told to do, right? And ultimately, they weren't the decision makers who put all this in motion 80 years ago. Many of the people working on security for these programs and covering it up and spreading the stigma and the disinformation, they weren't even alive when all this started, right? They're people doing a job. They're going home to their families. They have mortgages to pay. They have food to put on the table. And so I think. Think part of getting the truth out there is understanding those circumstances. And most likely what it's going to require to get those people to speak up and come out of shadows is some form of forgiveness, some form of saying, hey, you know, this isn't. As Rubio says in the film. This is not. This is a quote. Rubio says. This is not an endeavor to go out and punish anyone, but we need to know what they learned. Taxpayers paid for this. That's literally what he says on screen. And I think he's saying that because he's come to the realization that is, that that is the only way forward for these people to speak up. No one's gonna risk, you know, speaking up and going to jail or having their reputation ruined because they're telling you what they've been involved with, you know? And so I think we've all gotta, you know, quickly get to the point of realizing there needs to be some sort of arrangement made, some sort of real protections given to those people so that they can comfortably step up and share the base facts. Those people involved in covering this up can step up and say, hey, yes, I've been a part of this effort to cover this up. Here's why. Here's what we learned, here's what we know, here's what we don't know that needs to happen. And I think it was really wise of Rubio to make it clear that this is not an effort to punish anyone, but we need to learn what they have learned.
- [50:27]
Chris Cuomo
I think that is well said both by the secretary and by the director. And I wish you all good things with this. I appreciate the efforts and the progress towards getting what the American people should demand, which is the government works for you. You, it's your money, it's your resources, and it's your right to know something about how it's all being spent. So I'm here for it whenever I can help whatever you develop as a next, I'm here for it. Just let me know. Dan. And I wish you much, much success with the age of disclosure.
- [51:08]
Dan Farah
Thank you. And thank you for not only shining a light on this film, but on the issues it reveals. You know, for too long, legacy media has not paid attention to it, and you really have. So thank you. Thank you for doing that.
- [51:25]
Chris Cuomo
Oh, my God. Is it going to scramble your eggs about how they were able to not tell us things that matter so much for so long? Do I have all the answers? No. Do I believe everything I heard? No. But that's okay. That's being a critical thinker. It's about proof, trust but verify. And we have a lot of verifying left to do, and I am here for it every step of the way. How about you? Thank you for following and subscribing. I cover this topic a lot here at the Chris Cuomo Project and on News Nation 8p and 11p every weekday night. Check me out on Substack and on TikTok and Instagram. And yes, there are subscriber levels coming if you want more access to me. Smaller groups more exclusive conversations. We're going to do that. And the gear is out. I want you to really embrace being independent. Wear your independence. Show you're a critical thinker. I have a shirt. I'm a critical thinker. I am different. You're right. You're not a lemming. You're not another pack animal who's just deciding to believe that the other side is always wrong. And you must always be right because you're in your bubble. Okay? You are a free agent. You are an independent, critical thinker, and that is all you need to be. The problems are real. Our approach must stay the same. Let's get after it.