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Here's why the idea that this is as simple analysis as regime bad removing good one. Why do you think they say they don't want to resume the regime? You know what that is called, both in gardening and finance? A hedge. It's called a hedge. Why? Because if I say I'm going to change the regime and I don't, then I lose. If I say I'm going to change the regime and then I have another fill in the blank of every other effort in the Middle east ever. Okay? If any other scenario arises after I think I made it better, I lose. So I don't say I want regime change. Why? That's too hard. Oh, what's easy? Beating them up from above and making it look like I removed the threat and I got to do it myself because I didn't need pesky congress. So I'm the man. I kept you safe. I'm strong. Everybody else is weak. We win. Short term suffering, long term gain. That's. That's how life works. Everybody understands that. That is the play here. What's the problem? With the play, who gets to say when it's over? The people in this part of the world have the right perspective. Who says, Iran says it's over now. Oh, because we're kicking their ass. Are you kicking the ass of someone who wants to die? Are you kicking the ass of somebody who wants to bleed? Now, I would say the argument, the first one I made is much weaker than the second. I don't think that they want to die. Some of them will, as martyrs. Why? Because they want eternal life and all the benefits that they foolishly think come along with it. But the second question. Oh, you think that I lose if you beat the shit out of me? No, because you don't get to say, what, I'm beaten, only I do. If you're not replacing me with something else, then the suffering is actually like when they strike down Obi Wan Kenobi. And if you're too old for that, I'll give you another kitschy film in Fight Club. Why does the alter ego want to get his ass kicked? Why is that so important for him to show that he can take a beating? Because he's the underdog. Because the struggle is the win. That's what these zealots believe. They're in it for the long game. You can kill me for a thousand years, but eventually you'll be gone. And they're multiplying and multiplying and multiplying. So it's looking pretty good from their perspective. And the regime in Iran, they want the suffering. First of all, life is cheap for them. They don't care if their people suffer. They're in the business of making their people suffer. They want to be martyrs. Get you those virgins, get you that prestige. They make a big poster of your face and put it up in your town like you were an all star. That's where they're coming from. You're not seeing it here. Dead soldiers were like, oh, no, I can't believe this is happening again. I can't believe they killed him. It's so unnecessary. In the zealots mind, it's, oh, wow, what a sacrifice. Wow, what an amazing thing. That's scary. I remember this because I'm old and I lived this the first time I saw the movie, the first time. And when we went in there and realized, oh wow, they're okay with a one for one exchange. That ain't the American way we're into. We kill 50, you kill two if you're lucky. Okay, they're not into that. They're into one for One is great. They don't see it the way we do it in the region. They get it. They get it. That's why the IDF is so brutal. That's why Hamas was so brutal on October 7th. And look, I'm not comparing the two. Why? Because that's just a football. That's just a football. There's no coincidence that you almost can't find people who are okay with Hamas who didn't vote against Trump, and you can't find that many people anymore who voted against Trump who think that Israel has a complete right to defend itself. I mean, that's where we are. Why? Because everything's advantage over the other side. And if some one side is for one thing, you gotta be for the other. So we have this rising support of fundamentalist ideologies in our country. Of course they're going to suppress the report on the increase in domestic terror threats. But did you need a report to tell you that, that there's an increase in domestic threats of terror? Really? Austin, New York City, common sense, you don't think that we see this kind of cooperation of different outrages now, you know, this is not just the Islamists who do this, where, yeah, you may be Sunni and I may be Shia and I want to kill you, but. Or really you want to kill me, but on this one, we're together. The enemy of the, of your enemy might be your friend sometimes. That's not what this is. This is the enemy of my enemy may be a common enemy. And if it is, then it's my enemy too. And then I can start fighting with, stop fighting with him and fight with someone who benefits both of us. We can then start fighting with them and that's us, that's freedom. That's freedom of choice. That's self determination, that's free will. They don't want any of those things, want to control it like a bunch of savages. Primitive really. The, these zealots, these extreme Islamists, they're, they're in the wayback machine. So in the region, they get it. In the region, they get it. In the region, they get that there is no win. It's all about just who gets to determine when this part is over. So now you say, oh yeah, and America gets to say when it's over. You just heard the President say it. And then you heard the Secretary of War once again suggest something different afterwards. Oh, but that's because they're playing a little bait and switch because they don't want the enemy to know and they want to be confusing and they want to own the media. I think that's all bullshit. And if you flip the R and the D, you feel totally differently about it on the basis of who's doing it. And that is why the system is as big an enemy as if of extreme Islamism. 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We're not seeing it the way it is and we are allowing it to be a political football that is reduced to regime, bad, war, good and now, you have people on the left who are not wrong to question what was the guiding philosophy here? What's the strategy? What's the exit? And look, you could say, well, you didn't do that when you did. Yeah, I know, but why are we so fucking comfortable constantly explaining or rationalizing a bad argument by the fact that bad arguments have been made in the past? Why is that? Okay, Seriously, who is going to be about better? And there's opportunity for that in this. Why? Well, the simple play for the left is to say you're a warmonger and you're getting run around by the nose by the idf. That doesn't work for me. Why? Because I really don't believe that's how this went down. I think that this was the United States looking for a win. And I don't know why they thought this was one. The Trump administration, that this would be a layup, which they obviously think, but that it had to be done. I might as well did it. It's a dirty job, Somebody's got to do it. Blah, blah, blah, blah. And I think that the IDF was like, great when they said to them, we gotta go, these negotiations aren't happening, let's go. I think they were like, great because they're desperate to eradicate them, because they want to be able to say, who says it's over? Okay, The IDF is in all day for that fight of controlling their own fate against their enemies militarily. All day. I do not think it works as well for America. I don't think it's as direct a threat. I don't think it's as direct a benefit. I do not. I do not. And I think that Israel, although it gets hit plenty, even from insiders, which is why, you know, there's a little bit of an asterisk to the. What do you mean they're anti Arab? 40% of Israel is Arab, and a lot of them are citizens. Okay, let's look a little deeper into that. Yeah, ish. Why? Because a lot of the Arabs in the country are not citizens. Okay. And even those who are, are not allowed to serve in the military. They have to volunteer. They got to ask to. And often the military will turn them down. Why? Because they don't trust them. So I'm not saying that that's. That's justified or unjustified, but it is kind of up just from a straight egalitarian perspective. So you're a citizen with equal rights and you can vote, but you can't serve the military. Well. Yeah. And it's not as simple, but there's a reason. Because a lot of the ins, a lot of the, the same side attacks and sabotage happen that way. That's why we don't allow it. I'm not saying there's not a basis for it. I'm just saying there's something up about that as a reality. But given that imbalance, the Israelis would much rather use the military to control their fate. And then Hezbollah did them a favor also. They made a deal a year ago to disarm America's in the region on the ground in Lebanon as a liaison to help the government in Lebanon remove Hezbollah as the driving force and to allow the laf, the Lebanese Armed Forces to take over the role of defense that Hezbollah has. And they just broke it 48 hours after the Iran attack because Iran is a pra, Is a proxy driven aggressor. And this is what they do. And so they broke the deal and started attacking and gave Israel an excuse to beat their ass. And they actually went into Lebanon and they are now raising holy hell against them and vice versa to the extent they can. Sending in hundreds of rockets into Israel. And they started it. No, they didn't. They started when they went against Iran. Okay, but who gets to say when it's over, Israel's in a much better situation on that level than America is. Why? Because America doesn't have the same risk profile that Israel does. Their bombs going off here all the time. I'm cutting chicken. Their bombs going off here. People are walking into bomb shelters and they're shooting the. And working on their phones and just waiting to go on about their day. That ain't happening in America. If we were getting bombed on a regular basis, literally a daily basis right now, you wouldn't just be going on about your day now. Eventually you would. Eventually you would because you conditioned yourself. But that's not where our risk tolerance is. Our risk appetite is right now, Austin. What we saw in New York City, man, we ain't going to take a lot more of those now. I think we are, by the way. And you know what? I do not want to be right about this. I want to be wrong, okay? And I'm not and I told you so, guy, because it's stupid and I'm wrong plenty. But I told you what was old was going to be new again with domestic terror, right? Why did I know that? Because the way the President was teeing it up with them would be pissing them off. And the stuff with Israel and Gaza was going to Be pissing them off. And this is how the zealots express themselves is terrorism. Why? Because that is the mechanism of the powerless and that's how they get power. So we're seeing this in America as regime bad. So war good. No, because you're not even going to remove the regime. See? So what was this about? Yeah, but I reduced their threat. Prove it. Because you told me you obliterated it and now you had to remove it again a few months later. And I should have asked you this. Shame on me the first time. Prove what you reduced and how. Prove it. Prove how the regime is less powerful. Prove that the regime is different. Well, we'll hit them again if they're not. And if they touch anybody in the Strait of Hormuz. Yeah, again, you're dealing with a bunch of martyrs. Why do you think they said we don't see any room for negotiation right now? Even Hamas never says that. When Hamas is getting the shit beat out of him, what do they say? Let's talk. Let's talk. Right, and then they break their word and they attack you again, right? They're punk ass terrorists. What's Iran saying? No, we don't want to negotiate. Well, how close are they to death or extinction if they're saying they don't want to negotiate? Or is this a reminder that they could be very close to extinction? But they're martyrs. They're martyrs. They're the guy who gets up all bloody. I haven't even started to fight yet. Try it again. You got lucky with the first 5,500. That's where that's they are. You have to kill me. You know that's who they are. You know that's all they are. So how does it make sense that you are going to come in and kick the hornet's nest and then not think anything comes along with it? Yeah, but I was. On balance, it was fine. And whatever comes with it is short term. How do we know the sun's shining, birds are singing, and all feels right in the world until the season changes and suddenly you lose your motivation to get out of bed. 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Oh, you're being too negative. You just got tds. Really? And if a Democrat did it, you wouldn't criticize it. Oh, so you're only criticizing it because he's a Republican? No, I'd criticize it if it were anybody. Why? Because two things can be true at the same time. The regime is bad and this isn't going to end the badness. Oh, yeah, it is. Prove it. Prove it. Yellow cake boys. You ran on negating the past and saying that it was always done wrong. And if you were like me, you're not going to have a war with Iran. There'll be no war. No war. Not if I win. No, no. Remember that. I'm not a patsy. You're a patsy. I'm not a pawn. You're a pawn. Where are we now? Oh, no, this is different. Really? How do you know? Oh, you know, because we're not putting boots on the ground. Is that what he said? Why? It would be strategic. Oh, really? Does that sound familiar? Are you older than 26? Really? Do you read history at all? Okay, go back and look what we were told in 2002. 3. Go ahead. Go take a look. Not the first bombings that we did, but once we really start getting in there deep, you know, it's strategic. Surge. Surge. Remember the word surge? What was surge? Surge was more. If we do more, it'd be better. Yeah, real good. Remember how it all ended? Different administrations, same ineptitude. Why? Who gets to say when it's over? See, that's what they get in the region. Who gets to say when it's over? Israel says, I do where I'm concerned and I will kick your ass. And I will have zero. Because my people may be closely divided on it, but ultimately we all know it's also them. Is that where we are? I don't know. I don't know that. If you look at poll numbers, everything is so skewed. Bipartisan preference here. It's so hard for people to go against their side that when you have any kind of imbalance, I assume it's much greater than that. But look, you do have a counter narrative. So much of MAGA says they support what's happening right now. How when this was the opposite of what you were promised, how this is exactly what you were against, this is exactly what you called out, rightly or wrongly. And by the way, I didn't love your argument. I think that you're a little too hardcore when it comes to, you can stay out of things, but that's who you were. And now the guy you voted for on that basis is doing more abroad than like everybody else in modern history together. You know, I'm saying like, you know, modern, modern history. You know what I mean? Like, you know, in the last 25, 30 years, let's say no Bush, but not in as many different scenarios. We got attacked on 9, 11. How can you forget that part of it? So you don't get how it is gotten over here. And that really matters why? In terms of how you process what they want, of course the Iranian people want you to stay and take out the regime and help them and support them. Why wouldn't they? Why wouldn't they? The sketchy part is the President saying, yeah, no, you're going to have to fight for yourselves. You're going to have to do it yourselves. But then why did you come in here and start doing this? Why did you tell the help's on the way? Well, this is help. We're weakening the regime, but not enough for them to take it over. And by the way, who's going to pay the wages of the vengeance? You don't think the Iranian people are going to be punished for celebrating this and wanting this? Really? That's a very optimistic view. How you see the war matters. And if your frame of reference is just regime bad so that anything you do to get rid of it is good, or if you question anything that's going on to get rid of it, then you like the regime. You don't get it. This is binary bullshit thinking, because that's what we're stuck in. Because that is the game. Change the game, don't let the game change. You see the stakes differently. Who gets to say when it's over, you think that America is just going to Walk away and that Iran's not going to keep doing things and call on others to do it. Hell, did you see that tweet from Sean King? I was scared. I'm going to reach out to him and ask him, exactly what are you talking about, man? Because it sounds like you're saying all Muslims need to come together and fight against the people who are attacking you. That sounds like me. That sounds like the people in his country. And I know he's a Muslim, but he's an American too, right? I mean, I get it. I mean, a lot of people are. Faith first. I'm not. I'm not judging any of it. I'm trying to understand it. I mean, it was a really, really aggressive suggestion. But that's for him to answer and for you to look at and figure out what it means. My last point is change how you see what this proposition is. It's not as simple as the binary because the binary is designed for what the two sides. 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