This is a special episode of the Christian Leader Made Simple Podcast recorded on site at Indiana Bible College as part of IBC Library Talk.

In this conversation, Ryan Franklin sits down with Justin Reinking to talk about what it really takes to build leadership that lasts. Ryan shares openly about his early calling to ministry, the pressure of stepping into major leadership responsibility at a young age, and the burnout that forced him to rethink how leadership actually works.

Together they explore the difference between gifting and fruit, why relational health matters in ministry, and how the principles from Ryan’s book, The Christian Leader Blueprint, help leaders develop a sustainable rhythm of life, deeper self-awareness, and stronger relationships.

If you are preparing for ministry or currently leading in the church, this conversation will challenge you to focus on the kind of growth that produces lasting fruit.

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