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Foreign. It's my pleasure to welcome you to the Clark Howard Show. You know, our mission is to serve you with advice and information that empowers you so you make better financial decisions in your life. And one decision many people are not thrilled about or one circumstance that people are not thrilled about is how much debt you have in your life right now. And there are some new stats I'm going to share with you. And this is all about not feeling overwhelmed, but developing a plan to get slowly out of that debt and also ordering your groceries online. Is that a money saver or a money ripoff? We're going to talk about that. So Americans did it. We did it over Christmas. We now in January have hit record levels of debt in the United States. Not a record to be thrilled about or proud of. It's interesting because over the last eight years we've been through cycles where we had hit record levels of debt back in 2019. And then for the first phase of COVID debt levels collapsed. Consumer debt collapsed in the United States and people paid down debt at unprecedented levels because particularly during the lockdown phase back in 20, people didn't have places or ways to spend their money and instead they took money they had and put it towards debt. Well then we've had a lot of things happen since then. We've had a terrible inflationary cycle for six years. A lot of people's incomes did not keep up with that. And people close the gap in many cases with credit of various types of. And then over the last couple of years we've had a really ugly new form of debt that has grown unfortunately in popularity in the United States. Pay in four, it's offered like everywhere you go. You know, you don't have to pay right now, just four easy payments that then third of people haven't been able to make and mess up their credit. How are you going to be able to to get this under control? So debt comes from different flavors. There are people who end up in debt simply because they lost a job, they got sick, they don't have enough money for life's basics. And that may be somewhere based on what I've read somewhere around 20% of people that are dealing with debt that has grown and you're just trying to service that debt, that there's maybe 20% of people with the debt that it is all about just trying to survive. For most people though, it has been lifestyle creep. It's been things that you've just gotten in the habit of charging it or tapping to pay when you're out somewhere or thinking should I get that, should I not? Then you see the pay in for sign and you do it. And so first assignment for you, first assignment. And this is the hardest bridge for people to cross. Believe it or not. Harder than paying the debt back is facing the debt you have. You actually got to sit there and write down all the debt you have. Not what payments you have to make in a month, no the debt. How much do you owe for this, how much do you owe for that? How much you owe for this other thing and you make that list and then on it you put the balance you owe, who you owe it to, and what the interest rate is of each of those debts. Then we move to hard stuff because first you got face what you owe. And this is the hard lifestyle change because we're so accustomed to just, I mean with tap to pay you don't feel it. With plastic you don't feel. Feels infinite. And so we don't think enough about the decisions we make. So it starts with this really hard step which is if you know you're running debt, having to pay interest on credit cards. Average interest rate now in the 30s apparently used to be about 25, depends on the card mix you have. That's a lot of percent interest that you're having to pay. And all you're doing is servicing the debt and the debt can keep growing. Are you ready? Are you ready to stop using credit? If all you can do is service the debt and it's not so you can put food on the table, it's things you just buy, you just spend on. If you stop using the credit, that is the second key thing to you, getting things under control. And then that brings to the third step which is you already know what you owe to who because that was the first thing I had you do you know what the interest rates are and then what do you do? You pay the minimums on all the debt you have outstanding except for the one with the highest interest rate. You throw as much at it as you possibly can. You can even look at doing something I've talked about before, I've talked about it actually for 30 years is the advantage. Because credit card interest is calculated daily to make payments more than once a month against your card. Some people now paying, if they get paid weekly, they're paying some towards the credit cards every week. Or if you're paid twice a month, you make two payments a month. Because every day earlier that you get money to the credit card company that's interest that will Never be charged on whatever you paid. And the math shows that even if you're a minimum balance payer, pay the minimum. They require that if you stop using your cards, pay that minimum. And then as your balance starts to drop and they lower the minimum, you don't lower what you pay. And if you pay it every two weeks, half that monthly minimum you start at every two weeks, you will get out of debt and one fourth the time than if you play it their way at the bank whose job it is to keep you on the hook to them with high interest forever. Do you want that? Do you want that? Nobody ever got rich paying Visa or MasterCard 25%. I want money in your pocket. I don't want it in the stockholders pockets at the banks. I want you to have the money. So remember, I'm simplifying this and there are lots of different ways to get it done. But remember the three steps. First, you got to write down everybody owe money to how much you owe them and what the interest rate is. Second, you got to stop using credit if you're running balances where you're paying interest every single month. And third, you come up with a plan to pay these debts if you are overwhelmed, you can't see your way out of it. We have links@clark.com for you to reach a legitimate credit counselor that can help you with budgeting and if necessary, help you with payment plans with people you owe money to. But this is not something you ignore. It's something you attack straight on.
