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Buck Sexton
Wednesday edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show, also known as Clay and Buck. Get started right now. Thanks for being here. We had some really interesting stuff to discuss, to break down, to make sense of, to have some fun with, depending on the topic. CNN had a California debate last night over the governor's race. And wow, does California need Steve Hilton
Clay Travis
to win that governor's race.
Buck Sexton
These other people are nuts. These are a bunch of wackos. California, a perfect example of an amazing place. And I still, I still love California. I just the people in charge doing everything they can to make it as unlivable as possible. Marco Rubio taking on job number 16 yesterday of being a press briefer. And we have some very interesting updates from him on Operation Epic Fury. All that, that whole Iran situation. Barack Obama sat down with Stephen Colbert, man. But Barack Obama praises Oran Momdani. So that's something that you want to keep on your radar. We've got some other things. Ted Turner passed away. Rest in peace, Ted Turner. We might talk a bit about not just that legacy, but also the future of CNN and cable news. And Clay, I this one really hit home for me. Ken Griffin not, not letting bygones be bygones with the mom, Don the momdani. Hey, I'm going to like just target this guy as an individual, show up at his home, basically at his building and say, look at this rich guy who lives here. What a jerk. So now Ken Griffin's like, that's cool. Doubling down on Miami, doubling down on Florida gonna cost New York. Oh my gosh. Over the, over the full course of what Citadel would have brought, it's billions of dollars. Billions of dollars gonna go to Florida instead of New York here, Clay. So do you want to do California debate or you're going to do Ken Griffin?
Clay Travis
First?
Buck Sexton
I'll actually throw this.
Clay Travis
You pick door number one. Door number. I think the Ken Griffin situation is more significant, honestly.
Buck Sexton
So I do too. But, but I, I wanted to make sure that I wasn't being Florida man on this one, because this is another
Clay Travis
moment, just Florida, man. I think it's New York City. I think this actually ties in with California. I think all of these are connected. And I'm spending a lot of time thinking about it because of where I live in Tennessee. But this is emblematic, I think, of the ongoing Covid fallout and you're seeing it with redistricting. And I think it's a big picture thing that is impacting everything you and I talked about. If we were giving advice to kids these days, where would you move? Where's a good place to go start a career you'd like to be Somewhere where a rising tide can lift all boats. It's easier to be successful in a city that is growing in a state that is successful. And so I think the Democrats are getting everything wrong. And the momdani decision, it directly impacts why you left New York City. New York City needs as many of yous as they can have.
Buck Sexton
They need a lot of buck sex.
Clay Travis
Not trying to blow you up too much. But look, in order for that city to work, you need as many people with as much money, success as possible to fund all of the big government excess. It's not coming from poor people. You need rich people. And this is the very idea that you would taunt someone who is investing the money that he has into New York City is emblematic of a broken understanding of basic capitalism.
Buck Sexton
So a couple of things. One I also want to put on our radar. We will talk about what happened in Indiana last night.
Clay Travis
Oh, yeah.
Buck Sexton
Where a bunch of Indiana state senators just. We had a busy news day, but don't worry, we're not going to forget about this one. Those Indiana state senators who were like, we're not going to do redistricting because it's mean. Not a smart career move. If you wanted to stay in the Indiana Senate, put it that way. Trump and the MAGA grassroots. MAGA grassroots came after them. And look, they deserve to lose their jobs. It's that simple. Made a really bad move, really bad move. They got fired. I hope they enjoy, you know, selling real estate or building lawnmowers or whatever they plan to do going forward. But they're not going to be in the. Not going to be in the state Senate anymore. And now we're going to get to that story in a little bit. We've also, as we said, got this momdani situation in New York and it's emblematic. Remember, Mamdani is being held up as someone and I think he's increasingly going to be more of a brand within the Democrat Party. He can't run for president because he wasn't born here. But Barack Obama praises him. You know, he's getting a lot of attention, but now people are starting to say, hold on a second, he's slick, he's a smooth talker, but what is he actually doing in New York City? How is that going for the city of New York? Here is Ken Griffin, who is a billionaire many times, I think tens of times over. And here he's saying at a, at a conference, look, New York, it's really straightforward. The leadership of New York City has said, you are not really welcome here. So we're going to make a different choice. Play 14.
Ken Griffin
When we moved from Chicago, there was a debate between New York and Miami. It's unquestionably true that we made the right choice. I'll leave it at that. It's unquestionably true that we made the right choice. And now what the Mayor of New York has made clear to my partners, and principally my New York partners, my New York partners, is that we need to double down on our bet in Miami because we want to be in a state that embraces, that embraces business, that embraces education, that embraces personal freedom and liberty, and that embraces people having an opportunity to live the American dream.
Buck Sexton
Excellence, Clay. That's one way to put it. A state that welcomes and celebrates excellence and tries to make it more possible for everybody in their own way to achieve excellence.
Clay Travis
I tweeted this. If you are a small business owner who is hoping to build a medium sized business and one day maybe a large business, I wouldn't want to found one in New York or California right now. I founded businesses, I've been involved in them. I've said this on the show, but I had a conversation recently with an accountant and he's been doing this for a long time and he said, oh, I presume that you will be filing your LLC in Delaware. And I said, you presume wrong. Because I don't want any blue states to have access directly to my companies. I want them based here in Tennessee, where I feel like we have good leadership and I know the people that are going to be making decisions in the generation ahead and you're in Florida, I feel very comfortable and I'm going to have a decent amount of business interest in Florida. Same thing in Texas. And look, there are other states as well. But to me, the story of Texas, Tennessee and Florida versus California, Illinois and New York is going to be one that plays out generationally. Used to be New York City, Chicago, Louisiana, People wanted to be there. I think Miami, Nashville, multiple cities, Dallas, Houston, Austin, whichever ones you want to point to in Texas are going to surge in the next generation even more than they already have because just what you just said, excellence is being attacked. The meritocracy is being attacked. Most of us are never going to become billionaires, but we should celebrate those who do because they make all of American life better than it would be without billionaires. I know it's really popular with AOC or Bernie to run around and say billionaires are bad. I mean, what do they even mean? Think about this, Buck. Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, those guys have very different personalities. But what they have in common is they built incredible American businesses that have made, I really do believe this, all of our lives better than they would have been if those businesses did not exist. And that should be encouraged. And I, I just feel like what the Democrat party is becoming is a resentful, angry party that attacks success. Now the irony here is billionaires actually fund most of the anti billionaire propulsion from inside of the Democrat party, which is its own irony. But this is emblematic and representative of what happened. Buck, do you remember, I'm sure you remember it well when Amazon wanted to put one of its headquarters in New York City and AOC and others didn't understand the concept of tax, basically tax abatements to allow people to build and, and said we're giving them billions of dollars and you're like no, no, no, you're giving them tax breaks because they're bringing a ton of business. Should understand basic economics. She ran them off. And this to me running Ken Griffin off is connected to that which is just a fundamentally anti business mindset that has taken root in New York City that I think is going to destroy the under underlying budget.
Buck Sexton
Resentment politics is very good for getting people to listen to you and to maybe gain personal brand support to just play on resentment, class warfare. But it always fails as policy. So it's good as politics in the sense that you say like yeah, the fat cats this by the way, Bernie Sanders whole career is based off that. I mean there's, there's all these different politicians, Elizabeth Warren's whole career. Elizabeth Warren, yes. Took her Tomahawk to Spirit Airlines and scalped it. You know, this is where we are. These people pretend to care about people that are frustrated, that feel like they're in a tough spot. And the horrible irony is the very Policies pushed by people like aoc, like Bernie, like Elizabeth Warren, make things harder for the people who are actually trying to earn their way builders and get ahead the middle class of America. And so this is something, Clay, that it's not just for New York. You're right. It's all across the country. We keep seeing this play out. But Ken Griffin, I think, is really hammering this home. Because when you think about what Mamdani did, Ken Griffin's a private, I mean, he's a, you know, public in the sense, but he's just a guy. He's not a politician. He wasn't picking a fight with Mamdani. He was getting ready to build a multibillion dollar headquarters in New York. And Mamdani is going to pick a fight with him.
Clay Travis
I mean, well, yeah, I think all that's right. We should also, I don't think we can overlook, he doxxed where he lives, which is not very far from where the UnitedHealthcare CEO was murdered in cold blood.
Buck Sexton
That is pointed out by Ken Griffin during his sit down. This is cut 15. Listen to what he says.
Ken Griffin
You literally look at the first time, you're like, you gotta be kidding me. Okay. And then the second time you're like, you know what?
Buck Sexton
This is actually, this has gone from
Ken Griffin
creepy to actually not really creepy. This has gone frightening. You know, Mondavi is making it really clear New York doesn't welcome success. Are these states trying to push away from their populations those who really do believe in the merits of capitalism, the merits of a free society, the importance of education?
Buck Sexton
The answer is yes. Yeah, he's a socialist. The answer is yes. These people can call themselves Democrats all day. They are socialists. We already have a massive welfare state in this country. And in New York specifically, Clay, they have massive tax burdens. They have unbelievable amounts of waste, fraud and abuse. And so many people who are getting a free ride and a free lunch off of other people. And it's not enough because it's never enough.
Clay Travis
Let me also point out ken Griffin donated $450 million to a New York area hospital. $450 million donation. So in addition to all the taxes that he is paying, and I don't know Ken Griffin, I don't have any relationship with him, good or ill. Right. I, I've never met the guy, but New York should want as many Ken Griffins as possible. New York should want as many Buck Sexton as possible. I, I, I just, it is, they are, they are completely destroying the fabric of what New York was made Great. By which, to a large extent, Buck, was Wall street finance guys getting super rich thanks to capitalism and then paying a ton of taxes. And we've talked about this. And then they go out and they pay a ton for their kids schools and they have all this different, what I call the penumbra of success, the number of people they employ from maids to gardeners to restaurants that they go and they spend money in. I just. It is, it is. Again, I think the Democrat Party has lost all ability to understand basic business and that wasn't always the case. Who is a really pro business Democrat now? There's almost not an existing one. They're all the Elizabeth Warrens, the Bernie Sanders of the world. They have all of this wealth because of capitalism and they're angry about capitalism. I don't know if they know better or not, but they're certainly, to your point, willing to trade on it because class resentment, economic warfare, identity politics, anger that you don't have. What others have is the foundation of the Democrat Party now. And it's, it would be bad if that were just the case. But Buck, they're also celebrating murders. Luigi Mangione is wildly popular. There are going to be, unfortunately, others that try to kill President Trump. They want violence to occur for successful Republicans. And look at what happened to Charlie Kirk. They're going to create more and more of it. We'll take your calls on this. But I do think this is a big story because it's, it's where we're all headed. And I think a lot of you have to make decisions. Where do you want to live over the next generation? Where should your kids and grandkids live? Increasingly, my answer would not be New York, Chicago or la. The International Fellowship of Christians and Jews have a dedicated team working hundreds of communities throughout Israel. They do remarkable work which I've witnessed firsthand, fueled by donations from private individuals. And just last night. It's not just in Israel. A mob in New York City of anti Israel protesters clashed with law enforcement outside a synagogue on the Upper east side. Hundred protesters could be heard yelling Israel should not exist. Stop the sell of stolen land. Turn violent. Police officer was hurt. Some of you may have just seen me right before the show started. I was talking about this on Harris Faulkner show on Fox. You can join Bucking me and take a stand against violence and hate. Give 45 right now@ifcj.org that's ifcj.org you can also call 888-488-IFCJ. That's 888488, IFCJ laugh, learn and hang with the guys. Clay and Buck preset on the iHeart app.
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Buck Sexton
welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. Let's switch coasts, shall we? Sorry, whole middle of the country. We're putting our focus from the Atlantic to the Pacific for the moment. California and what's going on over there in New York. You have Kami Mamdani doing what we all knew he would do. None of this is surprising. That's the other part of this too. It's not the least bit of a shock that he's as inept at governance as we all said he was. That's why we said it would be the case. But beyond that, you have in California, a state that should be the just undisputed jewel of America. And you know, I give it credit where it's due. It's still a beautiful place and has a lot going for it. But it is just a mess in terms of governance and the budgets and the taxes and the housing situation, the homelessness. Clay, did we even get to yesterday? This is a little bit of an aside. The guy who burned down the Palisades, it was arson. It was not climate change, was a fan of Luigi the Assassin and basically a left wing loon. Essentially. Yeah. I mean this is, this should be a much more prominent news story than it is. But of course it does not serve the interests of the left. So the Democrat media doesn't want to spend any time on it. But we just wanted to note there are people. I mean there are major newspapers that when that fire's happening like this is because we don't take climate change seriously. No, actually a left wing maniac who probably watches some of these or listens to some of these, you know, insane left wing podcasters out there started a fire and burned down an entire part of a city. A beautiful historic part of a city. Yes, Clay.
Clay Travis
No, to, to, to, to your point, they also haven't gotten to rebuild. Yeah, I, I mean as this is a crazy left winger burned down. To your point, it wasn't climate change. He was inspired by Luigi Mangione and he wanted to be a hero like he, he was broken brain. But when you see people be praised for awful events like this, they still aren't letting people rebuild. And I love la. I do. And we have a big audience, people listening in la. I have spent more time in LA probably than any city other than Nashville because Fox Sports is based out there. I traveled to LA over, I was moved there 10 years ago.
Buck Sexton
I was, I was looking at homes in LA a decade ago. I really thought about it.
Clay Travis
It's a beautiful place. To your, to Buck's point, California, I think this is the perfect analogy. California is a super attractive woman, a super hot chick that gets away with all sorts of awful decisions because of the natural beauty and she always ends
Buck Sexton
up stumbling into the Uber like about to puke because she's made bad decisions,
Clay Travis
you know, and people make beautiful excuses. People make excuses because it's such a beautiful place to live. But my goodness, it is incompetent. And when I see the California debate, to your point, Buck, last night on cnn, the idea that someone like Katie, remember they were going to elect Swalwell, he was the big favorite and then they, they code Reddit him because of all the things that he had been doing.
Buck Sexton
And now you've got Katie Porter, Tom Steyer, these are the two leading lights of the California Democrats. Let's, let's start with, with actually I want to start with Katie Porter. I was going to go to style. Let's start with Katie Porter here. As you know, perhaps most famous for throwing a boiling pot of potatoes at her now ex husband, I believe, and she is absolutely just astonished that anybody would want to talk about her temperament play too.
Frank Siller
I can't believe that on a stage with 30 minutes of interrupting and bickering and name calling and shouting and disrespect for everyone up here who's stepping into public service that anyone wants to talk about my temperament.
Buck Sexton
You were actually interrupting them too. I don't Know why you want to act like you weren't. Oh, cowboy, even I, Steve and I sat here smiling at each other because we're just watching you all prove to everyone why they can't vote for a Democrat. Nice work by Bianco there. Credit where it's due. Jumping in to say, I mean, Clay, Katie Porter here is indicative, I think, of the state of the Democrat Party, which is a bit of just. Just constant gaslighting. Constant gaslighting about what we know about these people, what they've done. I mean, Gavin Newsom. Gavin Newsom is really, and this is going to probably hit too close to home. He's the guy who gets cheating on. He gets caught cheating on his wife with the maid by his wife, who a day later is like, honey, what
Frank Siller
are you talking about?
Clay Travis
About that was a bad dream.
Buck Sexton
Like, he'll say anything.
Clay Travis
But speaking of say anything, listen to cut three. This is again, just how broken California politics are. Should illegal aliens get free health care? Katie Porter just says, yes, that's what Californians deserve. This is what happened last night. They try to argue, oh, we don't want free health care for illegal immigrants. Except she was directly asked and she said she does. Cut three. Congresswoman Porter, your thoughts on the idea of funding health care for undocumented immigrants statewide?
Frank Siller
Yes, yes. And that's, by the way, what I think Californians deserve.
Clay Travis
Not hemming and hawing. No. Like attempting to argue, oh, there's some subtlety here. No, your tax dollars should go, by the way. If you're like, well, that's just California. Well, where do you think a lot of those tax dollars come from? Us, because of the way that this is paid out. And it wasn't just Katie Porter, who was one of the Democrat leading candidates, was also Tom Steyer, who is a billionaire. And here is what he had to say. He says, ice, it's a criminal operation. And just listen to how crazy this answer is. This is what California democrats believe. Cut 1.
Tom Steyer
The governor of California should hold people accountable who break the laws of California, specifically including ICE agents and the people who send them to racially profile, which is illegal, and use violence against Californians, which is illegal. And it should go up the chain to the supervisors, right up to Stephen Miller. If he's sending people to racially profile and hurt Californians or kill Californians, he should be held liable. And it is not legal for federal agents to come to California and break the law. It is absolutely critical that California's governor does stand up for everyone in California. That in fact ICE to me is a criminal operation. I've said all along we should abolish ice. It's breaking the law. It is coming here deliberately to break the law.
Buck Sexton
All you have to know about Tom Steyer is that this is a guy who is so disconnected from reality that he thinks that climate change is the biggest threat we face. There's very few. He's now the Japanese soldier a few years after the end of World War II on the island who they find him and he still thinks he's. Very few people are on the climate change as an existential threat train these days. He's one of them and he says ICE is a criminal operation. Absurd. Absurd.
Clay Travis
Sorry, I, I got fired up. Tennessee has just buck so all of that is I, I co sign with all that. I was just trying to catch up. Tennessee has officially released their map with nine Republican districts. So my phone has blown up with all the map pictures. We need to get into that, that impact with Indiana and everything else. But at the same time, I mean I think this ties in with the way we open the show. You have California floundering in incompetence. You have far left wing ideas being espoused by Tom Stier. Katie Porter we believe Bianco Hilton. My goodness, it would be great if those were the two finalists. Steve Hilton we've had on this program a ton of He's a friend. I love the guy. I think he would be an unbelievable governor for California. If I were in California and I were voting in three weeks, I would personally be voting for Steve Hilton and I would be ecstatic if he were able to do to get that job. Cause I think California needs a lot of fixing. This also ties in with Spencer Pratt who I don't even know what Spencer press politics are but in Los Angeles with Karen Bass up for reelection, there's just a genuine distaste and anger over what blue cities have allowed to be doing. Meanwhile, meanwhile your state of Florida has just released a map that will give theoretically Republicans a 244 advantage. My home state of Tennessee has just released a map that will give Republicans a 90 advantage. And in Indiana last night Indiana voters went out in their primary and said we don't want these soft weak kneed leadership in Indiana that's going to say hey, a state that Trump won by 20, we've got to make sure that we protect Democrat seats and all of the senators by and large, I think six of them, five of them for sure, it looks like a sixth as well all lose their seats in the Indiana state Senate, because people in Indiana are fed up. So really, Buck, what you have is the story of the coast imploding. New York, Louisiana. I think unfortunately for people in Illinois, Chicago has to be considered a coastal community. And then. And they are on the coast of the Great Lakes. And then on the flip side, you've got states in the middle part of the country that are making rational, reasonable decisions to make them even more rock, ribbed, red and buck. They're going to thrive over the next 20 years. It's really kind of a fascinating time in our American political culture because you have two divergent paths being taken. And I think Republicans are on the right side of all this. And the question is, can someone saying like Steve Hilton in California get enough of a coalition? Can Spencer Pratt, is there any real opposition to the Mamdanis and Hochuls of the world in New York? I think people there are in for a world of hurt. I just really do. And it's why, if I could give advice, if you can leave, I would leave. I just think a lot of what you love about the place that you call home is vanishing in a hurry out there. And I hope some people who are staying, like Steve Hilton, can fight and win. But I just think the overall trend lines are incredibly difficult for a lot of people out there.
Buck Sexton
I won't give up hope for New York, California. You may be on your own. Just kidding. But I'm. I'm hopeful that there's some semblance of sanity that will come to these places. D.C. i didn't even get into the mayor of Seattle.
Clay Travis
Oh, she's a whack job.
Buck Sexton
She's just a whack job. What is wrong with people who live in Seattle? How do they not? Honestly, I want some crazy libs from Seattle to call in. Explain to me why you think having this idiot in charge of things that affect your day to day life, specifically safety. She's like, we shouldn't have cameras in public places to capture crime. That's bad. It's a public place. Don't you want people to be safe? Don't you want crimes to be solved? By the way, the answer is no, because she's not going to like who's committing the crimes. Because it's not guys wearing red MAGA hats who are carrying pocket constitutions. That's not who's committing the crimes. The violent ones in Seattle. So she doesn't want there to be cameras. Clay, these people are insane. They're insane.
Clay Travis
Look, 100%. I will say this. Thank The Lord for all the cameras. You, I think articulately and succinctly pointed out that body cameras on cops basically ended blm. Because now we see every time, every time they try to turn something into a story, it is almost always that they were a danger.
Buck Sexton
I say three out of four times now when someone tries to make an issue this stuff, Clay, I say, oh, I would have shot that person sooner if I were the cop.
Clay Travis
Three cops are showing often great restraint. And by the way, if they don't, everybody sees it and they say, you know what? That cop committed a crime. That's rare, but it's very easy. But I actually like the fact that we have videos like this because that 77 year old guy, we wouldn't have even. They would have just said, oh, that didn't happen. He tripped and fell. We didn't hit him. Yeah, right. And then we see the video and it's awful. Same thing happened with the Minneapolis shooting. They have video of the crazy guy. Remember when everybody said, oh, Minneapolis going to be the issue that defines the midterms. And then we found out that both of the people that got shot were crazy and one of them had been screaming at ICE agents and kicking their rear of their car and he was carrying around a gun. And the other one showed up and was. Anyway, all of this, the videos that come out confirm very often what you and I and many of our listeners out there know, which is the left in this country has gone insane. And the choices they're making are making their lives worse, not better. I understand anger. Making poor choices when you're angry often puts you in a worse position than you would be in if you did nothing at all.
Buck Sexton
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And because of his run for president, he's got a lot of money, which he's did some self funding of his campaign already based on the campaign disclosures. How are you feeling about that governor's race? Is that also really just he has to stay the course. Trump will show up and we'll get it done.
Congressman Jim Jordan
I think so. And Vivek's good on this stump. I mean, he's out there talking about how Ohio wants to move to get rid of the income tax, which I think is great. He's talking about school choice. He's talking about things that I think are good, important issues for families in this state. And he's running against Amy Atkinson, who is, as you guys know, has been given the name the Fauci of Ohio because she was the health director for former governor or soon to be former governor DeWine during the whole Covid stuff. And she was almost as bad as Fauci. I mean, I remember she wanted to close golf courses for goodness sake. So you know what, what's golfing is the definition of social distancing for goodness. And she was one that closed golf.
Clay Travis
Especially when you see my shots, Congressman, I'm off on my own a lot.
Congressman Jim Jordan
Yeah, exactly. So it's like I feel good about that race, too. And then we have the 9th district up in the Toledo area. Marcy Kaptur has been in Congress, you know, forever, and we got a chance, I think, to win that race as well. So, you know, I feel pretty good in this redistricting effort that's going to now happen in the south in light of the Supreme Court decision. I think that's going to help us. And so I think we can sort of defy the historical trend and maintain the House and the Senate.
Clay Travis
The Senate, obviously, for people out there who aren't paying attention. If Ohio holds on on the Republican side, there's basically no math that allows the Democrats to take control of the Senate. I think you certainly see the map on both the House and the Senate side. But that for people who may not be paying attention, the road to a majority for Democrats has to run through Ohio.
Congressman Jim Jordan
Yeah, you're exactly right. I mean, you know, if we, if we can't, you know, keep North Carolina, if we, if we don't take Georgia, if we would even lose Maine and you know, if we, if we don't pick up Michigan, which I think we, I don't know, I don't think that's necessarily what the outcome is going to be. You're exactly right, Clay, that, that for the Democrats to get there, they got to get our state. And I think that's why, you'll see. You know, I think the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee already reserved like $79 million for TV ads for, for Sherrod Brown here in Ohio. So it's going to be much like the last go around where Senator Moreno and Senator McCormick are good senators from Ohio. Pennsylvania, there was, those were like the most expensive races ever. I expect Ohio to be just like that.
Buck Sexton
Speaking of Congressman Jim Jordan of Ohio, I think you've got a hearing coming up, right. On legal, dealing with some illegal immigration stuff, sanctuary city policies. We talk about that issue. That and the economy, I think are the two most common things for us to talk about overall here on the show. There was huge focus on it in year one of the Trump presidency and we got the Iran conflict, got some other things that have been getting a lot of attention recently. Are these deportations happening? Is the administration still focused on this? It feels like there's been a little bit of a let off the gas pedal. Maybe after Minneapolis and those lunatics confronting ICE people, ice ages.
Congressman Jim Jordan
No, I think there's still the focus and certainly we have the focus. We passed the Sanctuary Jurisdiction Shutdown act out of our committee a few weeks back. We want that to be on the House floor here in the coming weeks and hopefully even get to the Senate and pass and become law. But I think it's important to understand what the Democrats have been doing. I mean, think about their plan. First it was four years of just wide open border. Ten million migrants come into the country. Then they create sanctuary jurisdictions, which makes it difficult to remove those migrants when they commit another crime. And then they say, oh, we're not going to fund the guys who do the removing, we're not going to fund ice. I mean, that's their plan. And now we have this guy and we just wrote this guy a letter to get information from this Krasner DA in Philadelphia, one of these left wing das. He's now threatening to arrest ICE agents. So first let in 10 million, then make it tough to apprehend them and deport them if they commit another crime, then don't fund ICE and now, oh, we're going to go arrest you. Was as if it was, you know, it wasn't enough that they, they were the left wing agitators, were spitting on them and yelling at them and swearing at them and threatening them and doxing them and tracking them and all that stuff they did to them while they're out doing their job. That's how ridiculous it's gotten. So we're looking into both the DA in Arlington, Virginia, there's or some of the crazy things going on there, letting these illegal migrants who've done crimes let them back out on the street instead of honoring the detainer. And same with this Krasner guy in Philadelphia.
Clay Travis
What did you think about the fraud story the Daily Wire came out with rooted in Ohio? Obviously we've seen a lot of fraud stories. Minnesota was first up a lot in California. But I think the fact that a state like Ohio, which as you mentioned is a red state that has gone for President Trump by substantial amounts of the fact that Ohio could have a lot of fraud is a sign of just how systemic and epidemic like this entire fraud world is when it comes to healthcare.
Congressman Jim Jordan
Yeah, exactly. And you know, the second, I think the second largest Somali population in the country is in the Columbus, Ohio area. And so you had sort of the same kind of thing that was going on in Minneapolis happening there and now in Ohio it's different because, you know, you got, you got Republicans, but also at the local level where you need to prosecute. Of course, Franklin county and the city of Columbus are Democrats. So I want to look into this more. But yeah, this is as serious as it gets. And it looks like it could be every bit as bad as what was going on up in, up in Minneapolis. So I expect our Oversight committee to do some under Chairman Comer, do some work on this area as well and find out what we can about all this Medicaid fraud. That was, but we knew this was Medicaid. You knew it was the case. Elon with Doge understood this, but the left always all health care, health care. But when it's fraud, what you're doing is if you can, if you can stop that, you're actually going to help the people who truly qualify and who are in need of, of the Medicaid dollars.
Clay Travis
You know, interestingly, there's many different things going on, but I'm sure You saw Arkansas cut their men's and women's tennis program. I think you and I were texting about it. College sports are just under siege. The, the budgets are falling apart. I talked about it on my FS1 show. That' to be up a little bit later today. You've been fighting on this, among many other things. What's the latest there?
Congressman Jim Jordan
Well, we think we're going to get the score act on the floor sometime later this month. That's talking with leaders, Scalise. That's the goal. We, I feel like we got to get to use the sports and we got to get a ball in play. You got to get some bill passed, one of that, one of the branch, you know, the House of the Senate, get something where, okay, now we're going to negotiate, work with the Senate and see if we can get something to President Trump's desk that will help the situation. But yet when you see that, it's just so expensive. I don't know this for sure, but my guess is McIntosh, the 80 at Wisconsin, where I went to school, you know, he left and he went to the Big Ten Conference. And maybe he's saying, like, this is such a mess, I want to go to one of the conferences where they seem to be doing okay. I don't know that was his reasoning. But you start to see all these things. Arkansas dropping men's and women's tennis and, you know, just, I hate to see it because, you know, that's, that's where our Olympic movement comes from, these college athletes. And it just, it's just frustrating. So hopefully we'll get that, get that pass and get moving.
Buck Sexton
Congressman Jim Jordan.
Congressman Jim Jordan
How's the 195 mile an hour serve, man? But Buck, you were. Oh, last Friday I was listening to you and you're into your, the Animal Farm stuff was great, but then I heard you talking about, like, cuddling with Carrie under the comfort or something. What is the guy can hurt serve at 190 miles an hour. I was just laughing when I heard you say that. I don't know if you're promoting something or not, but we were listening to you guys.
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Clay Travis
Friday. Congressman, I had no idea Buck went so soft on us.
Buck Sexton
Let me tell you, when a guy, when a guy can hit 110 mile an hour serve, if he wants to talk about his fluffy slippers, he's allowed.
Congressman Jim Jordan
That's what I figured you were gonna say. That's what I say. But. And then also I appreciated. We were driving. I happened to catch you on. On. Yeah. On Monday, too. We were in Indiana driving Monday helping a colleague. And. But the, The. Your analysis of. Of any Trust and Spirit Airlines was, I think, right on target. Right on target.
Buck Sexton
Thank you.
Clay Travis
It's super frustrating what happened there.
Buck Sexton
We were sad that Elizabeth Warren went on the warpath like she did. It was really disappointing because.
Congressman Jim Jordan
Yeah. And Burgess, his. His. Because it would have been a fifth airline with, like, now, like, you know, competing with the big guys. That.
Clay Travis
That's right.
Congressman Jim Jordan
Was that not helpful? And anyway, I just. I appreciate what you said there, too, because we deal with this antitrust issue all the time.
Buck Sexton
Congressman. Stay on it. Thanks for being with us, sir.
Congressman Jim Jordan
Thanks, guys. Okay.
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in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show we are joined now by our friend Frank Siller who does incredible work tunnel to towers 25th anniversary of 911 coming up. Frank, I've had the good fortune to work with you and hopefully be a small part of helping you do so much incredible, phenomenal work. Can you believe that it has been 25 years since 9 11? And I know that people, some of them may have heard this story before. But can you tell us about what happened on that day that inspired Tunnels to Towers and why you have continued to work so zealously since that day?
Frank Siller
Sure, Clay, thanks for having me on. I always appreciate it. And, and thank you for your great support. You personally have come to plenty of our fundraising events and helped us raise the kind of money that we need to raise to do the kind of great work that we do. So thank you. I want to start with that. So on September 11, 2001, you know, my brother was a New York City firefighter, was just finished his night tour in his firehouse in Squad 1 in Brooklyn. It was on his way home to play golf. My brother Russ, my brother George and myself, the four brothers were going to have a round of golf and he heard on his radio scanner that the north tower was hit. So we turned his truck around, called his wife, said to him, tell my brothers I'll try to catch up with him later. And went back to his firehouse, you know, and got his gear. So he drove to the mouth of the Brooklyn Battery. Tunnel was closed for security reasons. So he strapped 60 pounds of gear on his back. He ran through the Brooklyn Battery tunnel, which is 1.7 miles long, up west street into the South Tower and going up those stairs and saving people, he gave up his life. And you know, the thing about my brother Stephen, and he was the youngest of seven of siblings. He was our little brother, but a lot younger than we were. He was, he was our little miracle. When he was born, my oldest brother was 24 years older than him and I was 14 years closest in age and I was 14 years older than him. So he was our little miracle. He was married, had five beautiful children, all under the ages of 99 and under. And he made a tremendous sacrifice. So as a family we just didn't want his legacy or his life or his sacrifice, I should say end there. And we decided we were going to do small acts of kindness and start a foundation with small acts of kindness in his honor, in his memory and of all those who perished on that day
Clay Travis
25 years later. And I know this is going to stag stagger a lot of people. But college kids now been born, raised, graduated from college post 9 11. Some young lawyers have now been born and been raised and graduated post 9 11. How well do you think kids these days understand what happened on 9 11? It's ancient history to some of them. What do they know based on your experience?
Frank Siller
Well this is what I know. The people that I deal with all the time, the people who donate to the foundation and those who serve our country, our communities, their families know, there's no question about their kids know they're involved in a way that I would like to see most of America to be involved, to be quite frank with you. But there's many families that have no clue of really what happened on 9-11-2001. And that is why it is so important on what we're doing. I want to say that we've been trying to get the word out there to young kids for a long time. We have a curriculum right now that's on our website t2t.org you could download it. It's age appropriate, K through 12. It is incredible the stories of 911 that we have on our website because our first mission is was always to honor the sacrifice and to never forget. Never forget. And they're not just words with us. We mean it and we, and we prove it by, by having all this at your fingertips literally. To find out the stories of 911 if you just want, if you're a parent and you're listening, go to t2t.org and download whatever your age kid and and you could tell them what happened on 9 11. If you're a teacher, do it for your classroom. If you're a principal, do it for your school. You know and we've had millions of people have done it so far but this year because it's the 25th anniversary, we were given a large I beam from the south tower. It's 26ft long, £16,900 is what it weighs. It's an incredible, impressive looking piece of steel and concrete and we're taking that all over the United States to make sure shine a light on what happened 25 years ago.
Clay Travis
If people are, and I'm sure Buck and I at different points in time will be involved in this, but if people are interested in the Steel Across America tour kicked off this past weekend. Ground zero. How many different places are you going?
Frank Siller
There's 35, approximately 35 stops. It might be a few more in there, but 35 that are planned right now and, and we've been working on this for 15 months. So this is not something that is just thought of and say, hey, wouldn't it be nice? No, this is a very thought out process that we have going to make sure that we honor the sacrifice. Where are we going? We're going to so many important places. Like I said, we started at ground zero. Just this past Saturday was the first day that we started the event. I was with one of my brother's five kids. His youngest son, Stephen Jr. Was there. He spoke, helped kick off the steal. We had an unbelievable honor. God. We had 343 firefighters with the banners of those who died on 9 11. The 343 firefighters who died. Pictures of them, the police officers, banners of them who died. Port Authority police officers, court officers. And that was the honor guard basically of us walking from ground zero and then down Broadway with this beautiful truck that we designed and that is carrying the sacred piece of steel. And why am I saying it's sacred? There's many reasons why it's sacred. Number one, it's part of history. That it was at ground zero, was in the South Tower. South Tower is where I lost my brother. My brother's body was never recovered. It has the soul of so many different people, my brother for sure it has in that piece of steel. And I want people. But excuse me, Clay. I want people who go to the steel and we have steps that they can go up and touch the steel. I want them to put their hand on. I want them to feel the sacrifice that was made that day. I want them to feel that these men and women were running in these buildings saving people and gave up their lives and left their families behind. I want them to feel the resolve they had and the strength of America ever since. And that so many 7,000 men and women have died on the global war on terror ever since. So I want them to feel that when they put their hand on that steel. And that's where, that's why it is so important that it's going around all over the United States. This coming Thursday, we're going to be in. Excuse me. Tomorrow I'm going to be we're going to be in Shanksville, Pennsylvania where Flight 93, the 40 heroes that took the plane down, Todd Beamer's famous words, let's, let's roll here. These guys take didn't let these hijackers fly it into the Capitol or wherever it was going. Maybe the White House didn't let it go, took the plane down and saved people on the ground. The first heroes of, of 911 were in that Flight 93. And we're going to be there tomorrow with some family members. I, I walked there, I think you recall this 5 years ago I walked from the Pentagon to Shanksville to Ground Zero to commemorate, commemorate the 20th anniversary in 9 11. And now we're doing this with the piece of steel all across America.
Clay Travis
Where will you be on 9 11, the 25th anniversary this fall.
Frank Siller
So I'm going to answer that by saying where I'm going to be on nine nine first on two days beforehand, we're going to be down at the White House with the steel with a couple thousand people, invitation only. And the president is going to be joining us and we're going to have a ceremony there. From there we have an honor God motorcade of fire trucks, police cars, motorcycles, they're going to go up high 95, Route 95 all the way up to New York. And on 911 that piece of steel is going to be with me on the Brooklyn side of in New York. And I'm going to escort it with my family through the tunnel just like my brother ran through that day through that tunnel 25 years ago. And we're going to have a beautiful ceremony right there at ground zero afterwards. So it's, it's a perfect way to start it. We started at ground zero. We're going to end it at ground zero for this piece of steel. And it means a lot to a lot of people that the reaction we're getting, Clay, is overwhelming.
Clay Travis
We're talking to Frank Siller, Tunnel to Towers. You can join Buck and me in joining in donating to Tunnel to Towers. By the way, President Trump news brief unexpected according to Fox News Trump event in the Oval Office. I would think may it would have something to do with Iran. That's just me speculating. But we will follow that if it happens before the end of the program. If it does not, I'm sure Sean Hannity will be talking about it. But since I see that headline come up, you've known President Trump for a long time. Most people out in the audience will not get the opportunity to meet President Trump. They see him from afar. What's he like, from your experience?
Frank Siller
Frank, I'm going to give you just one little, quick little story. Somebody was doing a fundraiser at Mar a Lago for us about a month ago, and the President was having dinner there. Now, the fundraiser was for Tunnel to Towers. He heard about it. I went up to say hello to him. He was having dinner. He got up and came over to me. He goes, frank, I understand we have a big event going on downstairs. Let's go down and say hello to them. He goes downstairs. I walked down there with him, right? I didn't ask him to go down there and talk to everybody and do this. He goes downstairs, he walks in and he starts talking about the Tunnel to Towers foundation and all the work that we're doing, how we help, you know, those, you know, catastrophically injured service members. We build them smart homes, you know, pay off the mortgages to goldstar families and fallen first responders. He starts going through the litany of things that the Tunnel Towers foundation does. And then he says, and for the 25th year, they have this piece of steel coming all over the United States, and they're coming to the White House because I met him in the Oval Office and I told him about the steel. And I said, frank, oh, my God, yes, I want this to come to the White House. And it's so important that we do it to make sure we never forget. He lost a lot of friends that day. He's a New Yorker. He's a regular guy. Is. He would do so much. He does so much for so many people. And he's done a lot for the Tunnel to Towers foundation, for sure. He loves America. He cares about those who serve our country and those who serve our community, and he has their back. And he proves it every single day.
Clay Travis
All right, I'll leave it with this. And you guys do incredible work. And again, Buck and I are going to be doing a bunch to continue to help raise money during this 25th anniversary year. I know you have seven grandkids. Six of them are big sports fans. Do any of them have the misfortune to be New York Mets fans?
Frank Siller
My brother Stephen was the biggest New York Met fan that you can believe that you could.
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Clay Travis
But you're a Yankees guy, right? You're a Yankees guy.
Frank Siller
I'm not. I am not a Yankees guy guy.
Clay Travis
Oh, I thought you were a Yankees guy.
Frank Siller
No, no, no, no, I'm not. I don't care about.
Clay Travis
Well, you have so many Yankees at the. At The Tunnel of the Towers events. They love you. I thought surely Frank's got to be a Yankees fan. That's true.
Frank Siller
Wells is doing a goding for us on Monday. He's a great guy, you know. You know, again. And Andy Pettit, you know, he did the PSA for me. But so, so have Alonzo. Sorry. He did stuff for me and Terry Collins and John Franco. So we have a lot of big athletes that have done a lot of stuff for us for the Tunnel to Towers Foundation. I'll tell you what fan I am. I'm a fan for anybody who is willing to help those who need the kind of help that these families need, that, that pay the ultimate sacrifice for our country. And, and their families need to be taken care of. And if they're out there trying to help tunnel the Towers foundation because they know we don't waste their money. You donate $11 a month and we do it on the back of $11 a month. You know. You know, and they're pushing that for us. You know, from Stallone. That does it. Mark Wahlberg, who does it for our Kevin James. That does it. You know, it's, it's, it's incredible.
Clay Travis
For people who want to donate, where can they go?
Frank Siller
T2t.org Very simple.
Clay Travis
T2t.org by the way, I said that I thought Trump might be having a press conference to talk about the Iran situation. It's actually the ufc, so he's got a bunch of UFC fighters probably for, for the June event. All right, there you go, Frank. It's going to be a big one on the lawn already. That's going to be a heck of one. So that I'm sure he'll address other things. But there is a UFC title belt on the Resolute desk right now for President Trump's press conference. Frank, keep up the good work. We encourage everybody out there. Go donate and we look forward to helping you this fall.
Frank Siller
Thank you as always, Clay. God bless.
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This episode of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show centers on the shifting political and economic landscapes across the United States, focusing on high-profile business migrations (notably Ken Griffin moving Citadel from New York to Miami), the aftermath of the COVID era for blue states, and culture war dynamics in major cities. The episode further explores recent political developments like California's Democratic gubernatorial debate and congressional redistricting in states like Indiana and Tennessee. The latter portion features interviews with Congressman Jim Jordan (OH) and Frank Siller of Tunnel to Towers, each providing insight into current policy battles and the remembrance of 9/11.
Throughout, Clay and Buck maintain their trademark blend of conservative analysis and humor, critiquing progressive policy failures, celebrating economic freedom, and highlighting generational choices facing Americans.
Timestamps: 03:07–15:08
Timestamps: 13:56–15:08
Timestamps: 05:10–06:56, 29:53–33:31
Timestamps: 22:12–29:53
Timestamps: 29:53–33:31, 36:12–37:23
Timestamps: 37:35–46:30
Timestamps: 51:06–65:22
| Segment | Speakers | Timestamps | |------------------------------------|-------------------------|-----------------| | Ken Griffin, New York exodus | Buck, Clay, Griffin | 03:07–15:08 | | Redistricting, MAGA grassroots | Buck, Clay | 05:10–06:56 | | CA Democratic Debate Recap | Buck, Clay, Steyer, Porter | 22:12–29:53 | | Interview: Jim Jordan | Buck, Clay, Jim Jordan | 37:35–46:30 | | Tunnel to Towers/Frank Siller | Clay, Buck, Frank Siller| 51:06–65:22 |
The show employs brisk, entertaining banter, balancing conservative policy advocacy with satire, cultural references, and personal asides. There’s significant use of analogies (California as “hot chick”), and the hosts blend serious critique with humor, particularly when lampooning Democrats or blue-state dysfunction.
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Listeners seeking a tour of America’s political realignment—delivered with wit, personal insight, and pointed critique—will find this episode especially instructive and engaging.