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We see you lack your slap dicks Issues get pressed so passage don't get sacked like bags and back itch Smitty and Jason Brown kill the yeah, it's a rap we want the games been missing we switched it and filled the gap Smitty and Jason Brown we killed it Yay. It's a rap we want the games we missing we switch back who is that to put the fear of God in it. Foreign. We are in the building live talk that talk Tuesday so talk and we will talk back. We got a special guest, Dr. Jesse Morse, joining us right out the gate here. He just confirmed it. We'll get the latest on Jaden Daniels injury. Plus, Steve Kim joins us as well on a talk that talk Tuesday. So strap in, tap the like. If you're not liked, then leave. And don't let the door hit you on the way out. Pound the like button, man. Easiest thing in the world. Appreciate you that do. Fuck you that don't. ESPN and Disney fucked us. They fucked our paying customers. YouTube TV fucked us too. As paying customers. I don't give a fuck whose fault it is. I don't want to hear about. It's ESPN and they're woke. We already know that. But guess who got us? The conglomerate eats all of us little people. And it will continue unless people say enough is enough. Eat a dick. We pay 1200amonth for peacock. ESPN Plus, YouTube, TV, Amazon, Netflix, Fubu, Tubi, Hulu, everything else that rhymes with Fubu. Fire sticks, Disney plus, you name it. We have to. We have it all. Every game, holidays you gotta buy to be doubleheader Monday, you gotta get FUBU and Hulu and Tubu out of here with this. So listen, you either pay and shut the up or you cancel. In either way, we the paying customer gets, as always, by the big fish who eat us. Little fish in the big pond. Kyler Murray, you're cooked. You're the mental midget. I've been telling you guys for a long time. It is clear as day the locker wants Kobe Brissette. It is clear as fucking day the staff wants Kobe Brissette. It is clear as fucking days that the results are very clear. The money. Trade his ass right now, get you a franchise quarterback, if even that exists, and cut your losses. Kobe Brissette continues to prove my point that you can pay these guys that y' all call Mid minimal amounts of money and win now surround them with big talent and pay the mid quarterback that you all say mid. And watch what these cats can do. I'm telling you right now, this guy is cooked. Brissette is clearly operating the offense on a much higher level. The team clearly likes playing with them. And guess what? The guy you drafted, named Fitch or Fitzgerald, named the receiver that you guys thought was supposed to be the greatest thing since sliced bread out of Ohio State is balling now, isn't he? Isn't he balling? Marvin Harrison Jr. Is balling. Predator looking ass. He ball it because Kobe Brissette knows how to get on the ball on time. Something that the little running around back there just trying to make plays. Nah, Gannon sees it, the OC sees it and everybody else sees it. Get the guy you drafted first the ball because Marvin Harrison senior, the hall of Famer from his dope house in Philadelphia came out and said, hey, you take my gold jacket if you saw me on this offense. That's how bad this offense is. They can't get my son the ball. They couldn't get me to ball last night. Now the Cowboys let me address the elephant in the room. You're horrible. And there are only so many ways to explain how bad somebody could be. You can't really keep talking about how fat the is and how shitty she looks. And you can go to the gym a thousand times a day and you still look like a fat wobble body Keith Smith. It doesn't matter how many times you go to the gym workout, say you fast and drink water and you still look like Hammer Dog. At the end of the day, your offense that y' all anointed the greatest show on turf this year for some damn reason is garbage. You still have zero identity. You still have no real run game. You still can't play catch. You cannot play catch. Let me let all you casual Mina Kimes out there know playing catch means moving the sticks, being consistent. No. You either hit a deep shot, big play or nothing. Watch the game. You don't play catch there. You can't move the sticks on short yardage. You can. You have no boot waggle game. You have no sprint out. You have no type of play action, pass. Because when we are in the past, when we know it's pass, when we're in the gun, we know it's run when you're under center, yet you don't play action under center and in the gun, you don't do anything other than chunky deep. The offense Is predictable. But y' all anointed just oh, Jack's playing an MVP level. Guess what? They're shitty. They put the defense that's already shitty back on the football field like this because they're three and out so much they can't move the sticks to stay on the field keeping that horrendous defense off of it. Jerry, do us a favor. Go back on land, man. You did a great job on that. Sell the team and live your best life. Or don't. Nobody really gives a no more. It's your team. Do what you want. But the secret trade, that's who you took. You took a linebacker from the other worst defense in the league and made it a secret. Meanwhile, Howie Roseman is running circles around your organization this morning, Jerry. He makes real moves. Before the trade deadline, he tried to get Miles Garrett and make a whole splash about it. It's fact. He tried to do it and it was in the discussion. But then he landed Phillips from Miami to get another pass rusher. While you give up a third round pick for a linebacker, a white one at that. And now that's your big secret? A white linebacker, a Will Compton is your secret to win the getting the playoffs anyway. But what do I know, man? What I do know is a Far East Sider 317 LeBron hairline having Lamar Jackson loving AR5, defending Caitlyn Clark jockey and Danny Indiana Jones. Big Smitty joins the show.
JB
Hey, homie. Hell of an intro. I love your energy today. You got the all red on. You're back to being the JB who. I know who the fans know. Yesterday you had the blue one. I get it, I get it. It's the Dodgers.
Smitty
Yeah. I felt sick. I had a shower right after you look.
JB
You look weird. Yeah, I'm gonna say you was blue on this week.
Smitty
Ladies like me in blue and red, though. Like, I got different because my eyes pop. Because I got different eyes. Like the God touched me like for two things like my dick and my eyes.
JB
Well, your wife, so probably, you know, whatever.
Smitty
Yeah. And so like, so I can wear different. My eyes change colors for different.
JB
Really?
Smitty
Yeah, so like, you know, girls like that. You know what I mean? And then. Yeah, anyway, long story, but you know, it's funny.
JB
Got you, man. Got you. Well, I'm excited to be here today on a beautiful Tuesday, man. We got Quinn in here, Christopher DeBono's in here. Jazzy Jazz from the A is in here. Herky Jerky is in here. Cole Vaden, Lucy. Carry on. And a 6, 3 Kane are all in the show right now.
Smitty
Right now.
JB
And none of them hit the like button. That's the crazy thing about it.
Smitty
That's the crazy about it. Nobody wants to talk about that.
JB
That's the blasphemous thing about it. I can't even think about it real quick.
Smitty
Smitty.
JB
What?
Smitty
I don't know anyone knew, but what? Yeah, I couldn't get his name out. Marvin Harrison. He's so shitty. He'd been so shitty because of Kyler Murray. I forgot his name. I was like, Fitzgerald, David Boston. Like I don't know who the name was.
JB
You gotta respect Marvin Harrison. That's my reason. Come over here and take care of you.
Smitty
So yeah, that is that dope. I was watching the game. Let me ask you, Let me ask you. What's funny is he was where damn near. You said everything that I touch like goes to. Yeah, like people that come on the show, people that go on the yacht. People get fall in the water. All kinds of happens around me. Wet or lost. It'll lose is a game and then. But he lost after. I didn't play either though. I didn't show up either though.
JB
I get fired like all types. Huh? I got fired.
Smitty
You got fired, Colorado Shitty.
JB
Yeah. Hang around Matt.
Smitty
Yeah, Matt. So, huh. I think damn near you might be true. You might be right.
JB
Really? You probably on my side on this one.
Smitty
I might be, man, because.
JB
We had.
Smitty
A coach on yesterday.
JB
Oh, what? What? Talk to him. What?
Smitty
A coach on math? I want to pay homage to California high school coach. Went 9 and 1, didn't make the playoffs.
JB
Yeah, yeah. The homie shout out to him, man.
Smitty
He came over, man. Coach Joe Gerardo, man. Remember the world. Remember the world. Head coach, man. He resigned yesterday after the show.
JB
You lying. You're lying right now. Hold on, what they say?
Smitty
I'm not lying.
JB
I'm going to do this the best way I can. I apologize if I screwed this up. Being a head coach at RIM has been a dream come true. I am grateful for every parent, every alumni, every community member, every coach, every player for this unraveling support of the program. What happened?
Smitty
Hold on. Hi. Is that on me though? He resigned though. Better than getting fired. No, homie, like you can't. Hold on. No, you can't just throw it out. It's bps, homie. You can't just throw everything. It's on me, homie. He resigned respectfully.
JB
When he came on his show, homie. He was not thinking about like doing this.
Smitty
He was not because he was like. He was like, I'm gonna see my players, remember? I'm gonna go see my team. Yeah. So he already knew.
JB
I said, what are you gonna tell your player? He said, man, I'm gonna be real with him.
Smitty
I'm kind of mad now, Adam, but you.
JB
But you were cursing, and you. And you were getting riled up, and.
Smitty
You were like, no, I didn't curse. I told him I wasn't gonna do that, remember? I.
JB
But you still cuss. You said it, but you still cuss. And I'm saying you was on here.
Smitty
And you was like, I, I. I'm just.
JB
See, I like.
Smitty
I like. I like coach. I wish coach would have just did it on the show, though.
JB
But you got him. You got him nice and riled up and stuff. And he thought about it later. He said, you know what?
Smitty
I made. I made him walk in.
JB
He was not going to resign.
Smitty
So I made him go in and say, I'm g. Be like, jv, that I'm resign.
JB
You put a battery in his pack.
Smitty
So I damn near fired himself. I still damn near fired him.
Dr. Jesse Morris
Yes.
JB
He was not gonna leave those kids when he was on it. If you listen to all his answers, he was staying with those babies. But you got them on high. The cif.
Steve Kim
That's.
JB
You're nine to one. I know your schedule was shitty, but you still should have got in there. And he got home and sat down for a minute, had his little coffee. He said, jb, he's right. I'm out this and tweet it out. That's crazy, man. Now he has no job.
Smitty
So that is all about me now.
JB
Now he can't coach no more.
Smitty
Last chance.
JB
You like? Come on, homie.
Smitty
It went 91. Damn near, homie.
JB
Yeah, but. But he done now because of this.
Smitty
Oh, man, homie.
JB
That'S crazy. I don't know what to say. I'm down there speechless.
Smitty
Oh, homie. I got a text right now, live, homie.
JB
What do you say? Verbatim?
Smitty
It said, navy. He was on your show and took a jab at his own folks. Remember he said they didn't fight for him or even his kids.
JB
Yeah, yeah.
Smitty
He got fired on me. He might have got damn near fire.
JB
It was a mutual.
Smitty
He damn might have got fired. When he did say that on the show, he damn near. He damn near might have said, man, nobody helped me. My admin was quiet. Damn. I like coach, man. Shout out to coach for saying, I'm business, bro.
JB
No, no.
Smitty
Big enough to where? Because we're damn near big show. So it got out.
JB
This is like when keeping it real goes wrong though, homie.
Smitty
I got another message last night, late last night.
JB
What did it say? Last night?
Smitty
It said your shows brought some light to the situation at Compton. The president forced the commissioner and the basketball signer to step down. He was on a witch hunt. All kind of shit's going crazy right now at Compton College, homie.
JB
Are you excited about it? How you laugh like a little kid?
Smitty
All learners, homie. That was the text I got last night.
JB
You love. You love like chaos. I was like, chaos makes you excited. Look at you. Look at him. A chat.
Smitty
I can't call. I can't. I know. I can't be. I can't make a sit up, though, love.
JB
People getting fired.
Smitty
I can't. I can't make this up, homie.
JB
When I told you we had that, I got laid off. He was like, yes. I'm like, what?
Smitty
I damn near gotta hire the coach now.
JB
Yeah, he got a live tweet for us for now until he figure it out. You gotta cut clips on Twitter for now. He ain't got me.
Smitty
Hey, ew. I need to hire your hired, homie. Ah, homie. Oh, dog. Hey, my bad, coach. I didn't mean to put you in harm's way.
JB
My bad. That's.
Smitty
I can't really, can I?
JB
I don't know.
Smitty
I can't say nothing really.
JB
I'm getting on fire and said my bad.
Smitty
I didn't get a fire, though.
JB
Yeah, I'm laid off and said my bad. Mo, Monique, it. Dude got on fire to say he said my bad.
Smitty
Why are you talking Monique so much in the chat?
JB
That's crazy.
Smitty
Hey, I got a text message that from a very reliable source. You and I both know he said Joe's been trying. Joe's been thinking of resigning for over two years. So it's just a matter of this happened. This happened jokingly. We know it wasn't from our show, but you know.
JB
I don't believe in coincidences, homie. At some point. At some point, something was up. So I don't know if it looked like fire. It smell like fire. If you touch it and it's hiding, it burns. It might be fire on me damn near.
Smitty
Anyway, bad business mode. You talk to Mo a lot in the chat, talking to me.
JB
I'm just trying to be a good, like.
Smitty
Oh, you like the red? You like the red better than the blue or which one? Which one you like? Anyway, let's dive into the show, man. Shout out to Coach Dorado, man. Standing on business. Too bad for the kids, though. I don't know how I feel. It sucks, but he's been trying to get out of there. Listen, it's a.
Dr. Jesse Morris
It's a.
Smitty
It's a hard gig up there in the mountains. I'm gonna tell you right now. It's a hard gig to win up there. And you go 9 and 1. Shout out to him. The problem is, you know, he's got to go. You know, he's got. If he wants to be like, relevant in the playoff deal, you got to go get a big time gig. Probably not a big time, but you got to be a. A bigger area to get your guys. And sucks for the kids up there because he did a hell of a job. And the problem is they'll. They'll talk about him for leaving, but he'd been there doing his thing, helping. How long can you make a man stay somewhere when you really. At the end of the day, there's no. Nothing for him. Like, he helps the kids and. But what. What does he get? I did that for 13 years for free, so trust me, I get it. Monique. Much love, Monique. Still ain't hit me up, though. But let's dive into the show so much. Nah, I'm just saying I love our females, man.
JB
Okay.
Smitty
They're real. They real female. Like, they're real, like, alpha. Like they want to be around Alpha, man. Like they don't want. Before we start the show, man, I gotta. I gotta get some on my chest. I know, man, I know you hate.
JB
This type of trigger something.
Smitty
I know you hate these, like, things because it's not polit. It's not.
JB
It is. It is. It is.
Smitty
No, it's not really that political.
JB
This happened in our city, my state of California. I. I bleed California, I bleed la. And we got these coming in here, ruining our city, ruining our state. This is. I'm gonna move so bad, but I don't know where the no credit score is up. Everything up. I blame Governor Newsom, Joe Biden, and Kamala Autumn. Go ahead.
Smitty
Pretty legit. Clap it up. That's pretty damn good. I'm not gonna lie. That's pretty me. I mean, but like, two things could be true, right? I mean, I'm right. That's the crazy part. But. But this right here, I don't even believe you'll agree with.
JB
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Smitty
They're one of America's largest financial services companies. Like how I'm more than just Peyton Manning.
JB
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Smitty
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That saying a lot. The people in La Smitty where you live and reside are furious.
Dr. Jesse Morris
That Your.
Smitty
Boy news come because a female, a sister, had her membership revoked at Gold's Gym. And I don't know if you know what's going on, but this weirdo on the left is a dude. If nobody figure it out, it's a dude.
JB
Yeah, yeah, the white dude. Yeah.
Smitty
And she was getting naked, and I want you to tell. I want her to tell you the story because we got video. She could actually tell you her story on what's going on and why Newsom allowed her to get her revoked but not remove a dude with a dangling dick to be the. Get the out of the way of women's locker rooms, homie. The is ridiculous, baby. We got the video where she's talking. Listen to this.
JB
I just had the worst experience ever at the gym at Gold.
Smitty
By the way, that's a dude. Yeah, it is. That's a guy on the right, but go ahead, jam.
JB
And I think this is probably happening at gyms across America. We're like, trans women are going into the women's locker room and not really caring about how women feel about it. And it's really hurtful, yo. Like, how you gonna say you want to be a woman or that you are a woman, but you don't give a how women feel?
Smitty
Thank you. That's a great point. 1. But I wish there was more women out there that would come out and do this. That's the problem, too. Take a look.
JB
Today, I was naked in the locker room. I turned around, and there's a man there. And boys like, boy clothes, lip gloss, standing there looking at me. I'm butt naked. So the first thing I think is, maybe there's a worker in here. Maybe I missed the sign. I say the word sir to say, sir, what are you doing in here? He goes, don't talk to me. I'm a woman. I have a right to be in here. Immediately, I'm pissed because I'm butt naked. I feel violated. I feel, like, weird. Like, I don't want to deal with this, right? So the girls are walking in, and they're seeing the commotion, and they actually chime in and say, yo, I don't know why he's in here. He's not supposed to be in here. And then I talk to the people that work at Goals Gym, and they don't really have anything to do. They just like, oh, we can file a report about an incident report. What the is going on?
Smitty
Like, listen, I know what's going on. Y' all allowed it. Now you're mad. Don't get mad now, girl. I gotta keep it real, Smitty. I don't cry over spilled milk now, homie. Y' all voted for this, y'. All. Wait till New York happens and you hire that mandami Nami or whatever his name is, y'. All. What is this? I can't wait to see it fall, homie. It. I'm over the. Y' all thought this was the way to go, homie. Y' all thought you could allow boys to play girls in sports. Y' all thought a with a dick was equal to a female. Y' all thought y' all was equal to a man. Now it's biting you in the ass, ain't it? Guess what? You reap what? You sow it. I'm over the. I don't. I don't want to hear your sad stories no more, homie.
JB
She voted for. So don't go.
Smitty
I'm not talking about her specifically. I'm saying y'. All. Y' all voted for this.
JB
Don't say y', all, though.
Smitty
Yeah, y' all far left. Y' all voted for this, homie. Y' all voted for this, homie. And you endorse it, homie. Keep it 1000. Keep it real. Y' all don't want to hear it, though, Smitty, right now, because you're seeing it. Now you're seeing it.
JB
Is this who you mean when you say y'?
Smitty
All? Is that you?
JB
I don't know.
Smitty
We got a lot of people making our memes of us now, so a lot of going on.
JB
It was, like, huge.
Smitty
It's funny to hear when people say Trump's the president now, though, Idiot. Yeah, no, he's the president. So all. He did all this, you morons. Some of you are. So here's the. Here's the bottom line. Y' all voted for this. Trump goes against it. And guess what? Y' all just go against Trump. Y' all don't go against the actual lady right there discussing the fact that there's a dude with a dangling dick looking at her butt naked. Y' all just go after Trump like Newsom does every day because you don't want to face the fact that you stole our money, motherfucker. That you took our money. You allowed the fires, you kept the water, you still allowed homeless to rise, jobs to fall, but yet it's Trump's fault. You fucking nobody bitch. I'm so tired of these fucking far left demons. Anyway, we got a great guest on MAN to give us some updated information on Crazy Psycho on our main Man, Smitty, because I know we got Sheldon day on later on. He can't discuss it. So we got our main man right from Miami, Dr. Jesse Morris. Give us update live on Jaden Daniels.
JB
How you doing, man? Looking clean, Looking clean.
Smitty
Good morning. Hey, I appreciate you coming in. You got females in male lockers out there getting kicked out of the gym because there's a dude in there.
Dr. Jesse Morris
Not that I'm aware of, but we only have models in Miami, so I, I don't. I don't know.
Smitty
Shout out to. Shout out to Miami, man.
JB
JB's known for getting people fired and like them over, so. Don't answer that, man. Jaden Daniels, we all saw the horrific injury, man. Can you, I guess, break this down as far as what actually occurred, the. The what type of like, process he's looking at to recover the whole nine.
Dr. Jesse Morris
So you want to hear something that's just kind of eerie?
JB
Yeah, I want to hear it.
Smitty
Damn it out. But yeah.
Dr. Jesse Morris
Jayden Daniels suffered what's going to likely be a season ending injury to his elbow at the same yard line against the same team as RG3.
Smitty
Don't tell me that.
JB
This is after Alex Smith.
Dr. Jesse Morris
Just kind of weird, bro.
JB
Alex kind of weird. The same thing with the og, Same injury, same.
Dr. Jesse Morris
Just. Just kind of weird, that's all.
JB
It's more than weird, but.
Dr. Jesse Morris
But nonetheless, nonetheless, that. That doesn't have an impact. Just. Just kind of eerie, that's all.
JB
That's crazy.
Smitty
Long story short, played at that field, doc, so we damn near stop playing at that field.
JB
Well, they are.
Smitty
I mean, I think they should stop.
Dr. Jesse Morris
Playing them at life too. But that's a separate discussion. You know, I. I think they're working on a new stadium. From what I understand they are, but you know, that takes time and resources and money. But in general, this is a elbow dislocation. It could have been a fracture. It doesn't sound like it was a fracture. It sounds like it was negative. Now, there's a couple different things that, that pretty much have to happen here for this to happen. You have three major ligament complexes in the elbow. The first one really pretty much has to be strained enough to pop the bone out of the location where it normally is, the second one, and then eventually the third one. And if all three tear, then usually you have a dislocation. If they're just strained but not partially torn, that would be an ideal situation where he doesn't need surgery and he can come back in a month to six weeks. If they are partially torn, then Oftentimes they have to have surgery just because there's a lot of instability. If they are fully torn, then surgery is just the only option and he will have to have it reconstructed. We don't know if the Tommy John ligament, the UCL is injured. That often can happen with this. Now this is much more common to be an injury for linebackers and for defensive guys when they, you know, maybe they're grabbing and their elbow gets hyperextended or, you know, something where they're tackling someone and, and, and their body goes one way, but their arm goes the other way. Not traditionally kind of how we saw this happen. The, the, the silver lining, if there's anything, is that this was his non. Throwing elbow.
JB
Right?
Smitty
Right.
Dr. Jesse Morris
If this was his throwing elbow, I don't know if he's ever the same quarterback.
JB
Right.
Dr. Jesse Morris
But you know, that's a moot point because it wasn't the, the, the, the.
JB
This.
Dr. Jesse Morris
The next question is, do they even bring him back given the state of their season, regardless of if his health, Elbow's healthy enough.
Steve Kim
Right.
Dr. Jesse Morris
They haven't had Terry McLaurin. He's out, going to be out again this weekend. Wouldn't be surprised if he's out until week 12 or so. Secondary, his re injury to his quad, they lost McCaffrey's brother, Luke McCaffrey, with a collarbone fracture. They haven't had the best running game. JCM started off strong, but hasn't really done a whole lot. So it's just been, it's been disappointing to kind of say the least. Going from a fantastic rookie season to, you know, first the bone bruise or PCL injury, then a hamstring strain, and now an elbow injury. So when I tweeted maybe a month ago, three weeks ago, is Jaden Daniels injury prone? I got, I stirred the pot a little bit because, like, oh, he hasn't missed any time and now he, you know, so, you know, he's. He's not the biggest guy, right?
JB
He's.
Dr. Jesse Morris
He's pretty thin. There's no question he's gifted, right? He's. No, there's no question he's gifted, but I'd like to see him put on some size similar to how Lamar is, right? How Lamar has that, that frame. He's much thicker. You know, Lamar came back and absolutely smashed despite suffering that hamstring strain a couple weeks ago.
Smitty
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Smitty
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JB
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Smitty
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Dr. Jesse Morris
In the long run, I think Jaden will be fine and will be ready for 2026. No issues, no concerns. No really long term issues. Although he might have a little difficulty extending that elbow as much as. Depending on the specifics. Depending on. You know.
Smitty
I gotta call probably. Hey, this is why though. I don't know. I gotta. I got a strong take on it.
JB
It sound like he's weak.
Smitty
Yeah. I mean I. I wanna. What? I don't know as Doc, but Smitty, this is you. You've tried it your way and I'm talking to Roger Goodell in the NFL.
JB
You've.
Smitty
You've tried it your way for the last five years. Let's just say five.
JB
Yeah.
Smitty
And you made the game incredibly softer. You. You've changed the rules, you changed the kickoff rules. You've done all these things. Bring back Doc Real quick.
Dr. Jesse Morris
Yeah, that was spam calls, man.
Smitty
I know, man. Hamas. Go ahead.
Dr. Jesse Morris
So, you know, in general, I think he'll be good in the long run. I just don't. I think this year's rap, I just don't make. Doesn't make sense for me. Similar to Joe Barrow. Right. Does it really make sense to bring a star quarterback back when your team is 3 and 6 and 11th or 13th out of 16 positions in the league? Like, if you're top five and you're like, hey, I'm one quarterback away, maybe you could justify it. Can you justify it when they really don't have a shot? You know, yes, you pay him a lot of money. Yes, you want to see him play, but if the goal is to make the playoffs and you're already out of the playoffs by the time you get back, are you doing more harm than good? That even begets the question, what was he in the game at that point? What is he in the game for at the, in the first place? Players want to play. They're going to be in the game as long as you allow them to be there. Shouldn't Mariota have been in that game? There was a blowout from the freaking beginning. The game wasn't competitive at all. Zero. You know, Sam Darnold looking, you know, freaking incredible. JSN is doing things we haven't, We've really never seen or at least the past 15 years from, from a YPRR perspective, just from a route running and just. He's putting on a master class. He, he probably shouldn't have been in the game in the first place, but it is what it is. Right? It's just unfortunate, you know, and, and this is. I put up a list late yesterday afternoon of all the players that are season ending and other players that miss at least three different games. And unfortunately he's going to be on that list. You know, whether he's on one or both, we don't, we don't know. But either way it's, it's just, it's unfortunate because you've lost basically Burrow. We've lost Purdy for extended period of time and now you've lost Daniels, you lost, you know, Lamar for a good stretch of the, the season so far, at least three games, you know, so it's unfortunate. Every year we seem to lose a handful of really good QBs. The other question I have for you all is, and you maybe you talked about this already yesterday, is, is Joe.
Smitty
Burrow.
Dr. Jesse Morris
Better than Joe Flacco?
Smitty
Yeah, I mean, because of his youth. But right now, Flacco's playing probably as well as anybody's.
JB
Having a really good stretch right now, and I like Flacco a lot, but where he has like a really good stretch and then he goes just the bed and. And then he gets moved around and he goes back.
Smitty
These weapons.
JB
I like Flacco, but that's not.
Dr. Jesse Morris
But here's my question.
Smitty
But I'm with you, Smitty, on that, of course. Burrows, because of the youth last year. But. But be real. Black Lane never had these weapons.
JB
But we be. We be in the moment too much, I think, sometimes, and we get lost in the moment. It's like, oh, my God.
Dr. Jesse Morris
How many times has Burrow had? 470 and four. Never coming off of an AC sprint in your throwing shoulder.
JB
Right now with a straight face that you got Joe Flacco. If you drafting the team right now and they're both healthy, you're telling me you're. You're picking Flack over Burrow, yes or no?
Dr. Jesse Morris
I love. I love Burrow's talent, but he can't stay healthy. The best ability.
Smitty
You're right on that.
Dr. Jesse Morris
Is availability.
Smitty
You're true on that. That's true, dude. That's true.
Dr. Jesse Morris
Right. Would you draft Todd Gurley knowing what you knew about his career, right?
Smitty
No.
JB
Damn. Damn near.
Dr. Jesse Morris
Why? You know his career is going to be over by the age of 26. Would you still draft him knowing what the resources and everything you're gonna have to do? Same issue with Joe Burrow. We just saw Joe Flacco light up. If it wasn't for a hideous defense, they would have won that game. They should have won that game.
Smitty
Should have won the last two games.
Dr. Jesse Morris
Yeah.
Steve Kim
And.
Dr. Jesse Morris
And. And you're saying. I mean, there's no question Joe. Joe Barrow has more talent. There's no question. Right. But if you look at the sack rates, that's on Burrow. Flacco is doing it with the same offensive line, the same weapons, and has a significantly less sac rate and better numbers. So. So he put him. You literally swap one guy out and swap one guy in, and the offense hasn't changed. If not, he got better.
Smitty
He was there three days and learned off like this.
Dr. Jesse Morris
So. So, like that tells you.
Smitty
Yeah, true.
Dr. Jesse Morris
You know, I mean, Flacco won a Super bowl, has been a fantastic. I mean, but dude's 40, but it's not like he's, you know, 25 and elite, like Burrow. Discussion, that's all.
Smitty
No, it is. It is the only reason you don't take him is because of his age.
Dr. Jesse Morris
It's more of a. It's not a. It's not a knockobar. We know the dude's a beast. The problem is, like, I just feel like there will be certain players that we never get to see their true talent.
Smitty
No, there is.
Dr. Jesse Morris
Never get to see the true stretch because injuries get in the way.
Smitty
Doc, I just told my. I just. I just let in with Smitty. I just let in saying Kobe Brissette looks really good too, by the way. And you can win around mid. Quarterbacks that y' all think are mid when you surround them with better talent that knows how to get rid of the football. Kyler Murray just runs around back there. There's so many other quarterbacks that do this. I've been saying this for five years. Nobody listened to. You can plug and play guys and win right now with better one and two.
JB
This year started in three games. So you're not.
Smitty
No, but I know it works. Their offense is completely different and better. Smitty Stock and I tweeted last night.
Dr. Jesse Morris
This because at this point there the only. If this was a mild midfoot sprain for Kyler Murray, he's back in a game, maybe two with a carbon fiber insert. He missed a month through the buy.
Smitty
Yeah.
JB
Yeah.
Dr. Jesse Morris
You know. Yes. His game is predicated on running. He's on the smaller side. He's a little bit taller than me, so he really can't see over the line. But we. We saw this recently with whoever else it was.
Smitty
Yeah.
Dr. Jesse Morris
You know, where they have the trouble. They, you know, they could see short. They can't see that mid range. And then the deep ball. They just basically have to hope that the guy's where he should be. But it's that mid range where they can't see over the guys and they're not tall enough to. To kind of see the depth, you know, And. And teams know that before they draft them, obviously. Right. Dylan Gabriel is going to have the same issue. But, you know, the crazy part is we know Kyler's a phenom, right. I don't think there's ever been another player that was drafted in the top 10 of both MLB and NFL.
Smitty
Like athlete. Yeah.
JB
Just.
Dr. Jesse Morris
He's a freak athlete, no question. But if you give me like three more inches in height and like maybe 20 pounds more muscle, put his body closer to Cam Newton than. Than Kyler Murray, he's a different player.
JB
Yeah, but.
Dr. Jesse Morris
But he. He's not.
Steve Kim
Right?
Dr. Jesse Morris
So then the question is, and if you look I looked at this a couple weeks ago when they transitioned to Brissette. The offense is completely different. They're not running shotgun. You know, there's so many different plays. Look at the effectiveness of. You know, we've seen more effectiveness with Trey McBride over the past three weeks than we have in, in two years of Kyler. Same with, with Marvin Harrison right now. Marvin Harrison put homeboy on skates last night. But. But you know, and Marvin Harrison is a zone special. He's an elite zone specialist.
Smitty
He looks good when the ball's on time.
Dr. Jesse Morris
Doc, you know, but. And then you saw, you know, Marvin Senior call out offense. I don't know if you saw that.
Smitty
Yeah.
Dr. Jesse Morris
You know, I don't mind that. I like that. But in general. So then the question is, can the Cardinals good win last night? Can the Cardinals pull this off?
JB
No.
Dr. Jesse Morris
Can not pull it off. Can they? They make the decision and they're going to get pushback. But at the end of the day, the goal is to win games.
Smitty
It is. And actually you want to coach. Doc. What Smithy's fails to understand here, I don't feel the coaches want to coach. And they want to be able to coach guys that do what the plan and execute what the plan was entitled to do. What is entitled to do. We want to get a plan, execute the plan. We may not win every game. We may be shitty team. But when you call the plays and you want to see it executed the right way. Kyler Murray don't do that. You can clearly see that the Cardinals are in in tune with what Brissette's doing.
JB
So why wasn't Jacoby just the starter at the jump in if what you're saying is true, money.
Smitty
But we know why.
Steve Kim
Politics.
JB
And listen, I'm a coach fan. Jacoby was my quarterback for a long time. He's solid. He's solid, but he's not all that Smitty.
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Smitty
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Smitty
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Smitty
You know I start with them.
JB
JB you do this every time.
Smitty
Why did you start with AR5? Smitty?
JB
Every time a backup comes in and they play well for a couple.
Smitty
True.
JB
You do this every time.
Smitty
It's true.
JB
You said the same thing with who's your boy? Cooper.
Steve Kim
Cooper Rush.
JB
Better than Dak. Stop it. Mac Jones.
Smitty
I didn't say he's better than that. You're failing to listen. You don't listen. You don't listen. You don't listen. And you said AR5 is better than everybody too.
JB
Stop. He was a rookie. I'm a fan.
Smitty
Doc. Here's the problem, Doc.
JB
Evidence, Doc.
Smitty
You put in these mid quarterbacks that Smitty loves to call mid and you see the same result at the end of the day. Like that's at the end of the day. At the end of the season, it's the same result. Why would I not pay you less? And put this and get the same result and I can go get better players around them.
Dr. Jesse Morris
I'll leave you guys with this question.
JB
I'm Sorry. Go ahead, Doc. Go ahead.
Dr. Jesse Morris
Kyler Murray remind you a little of Justin Fields?
Smitty
A little bit, but more of like a little boy version. Like, he's a little boy. He's a. He's a mental. He just runs around in circles, you.
Dr. Jesse Morris
Know, and I think that's part of it. Without looking at the advanced metrics, you know, you can compare Kyler to. To Justin to say Lamar. Right now, Lamar has made the decision to stand in the pocket and just absolutely shred you. But back in the day, that wasn't him. Right? He was, hey, I want to run. Like this is what I do. He made that mental transition. The other two haven't, at least from my perspective. That's what I see. Justin has one decision, and then he goes. Kyler tries to make it happen, but it just doesn't seem to happen. So then he goes, or. Or the play just dissolves. Lamar just literally is not only elusive but decisive. You see, he didn't want to run a whole lot last week.
JB
Right.
Dr. Jesse Morris
I'm pretty sure he had more touchdowns than incompletions.
Smitty
Yeah.
JB
You're a bad boy. He does that often. Lamar, bad boy.
Dr. Jesse Morris
You know, I mean, it's not like he's loaded on offensive weapons. And I mean, Mark Andrews is good. I mean, he's really good, but he's not, you know, he's not Brock Bauer's talent. We know that. You know, Zay Flowers is about my size, you know.
JB
Right. I went with you.
Dr. Jesse Morris
Deandre Hopkins is.
Smitty
Is.
Dr. Jesse Morris
Is a shell. Is his former elite, you know, but. But. But he's still making people look silly.
Smitty
Oh, boy. Let me ask you, Doc, the Tampa Bay Bucks, I haven't played. They're still in first place. I think they need Bucky Irvin. Is he got a shot at all coming back or.
Dr. Jesse Morris
No, this is the million dollar question this week. Now, he tweeted. Somebody tweeted something yesterday to me where he. I don't know if I'm assuming it was real. He responded to someone on his Instagram DM saying, are you ready to play? He said, yes, but again, that's. There's nothing there.
Smitty
You never know.
Dr. Jesse Morris
The issue I have with this is that we know the problem. It wasn't the foot. It was the shoulder. And he had a dislocated shoulder that no one really knew about until a couple days later. And he's been out. It'll be. I believe it's been five weeks. I believe it's been five weeks. And they just came off their buy. So today, yesterday, we should have heard something. Nothing today. We should hear something. Whether or not that happens, we don't know. They're. They have a big game. They're facing my Patriots this week. They have a big game. So if they need him, they need him. I don't think that they can beat the Patriots without Bucky.
JB
So what happened with. I saw Joe Aust out for the season. Unfortunate. Was hurt, came back, got hurt again. What happened with that?
Dr. Jesse Morris
He came back from a high ankle and re injured the Hyanko and fractured it.
JB
Damn.
Smitty
So it's never.
Dr. Jesse Morris
They didn't give us specifics, but that's more than likely would happen.
Smitty
Yeah.
Dr. Jesse Morris
And that's the only explanation is why you would have a season ending injury on a re injury of the same when it wasn't even. They brought him back early.
JB
Right.
Dr. Jesse Morris
It was just that he got rolled up on and that tissue is primed to re injure. It was probably a decent grade 2, which means that the. The bones are already pretty stretched and that syndesmonic Megan is really, really tender. And then someone came across and then it just. And he probably fractured the fibula. So he fractured the fib of the high ankle. Given his size, given his position, that's an eight to 10 week injury if not more, depending on specifics.
Smitty
So Doc. Well your expertise. Is that something that I've had bad ankles just linger and linger. Smitty I'm sure as we all have as players. Like is it because the charger stabbed a guy too with it with a needle and ended his basic career? Is there something going on with the doctor there and their evaluation process when they do look at things like this and say hey man, we should have held him out a couple more weeks because that's a tender area.
Dr. Jesse Morris
So they gave him a fair amount of time. So I don't think it was. It was that. I think it was just a combination of the nature of the injury, the nature of the size that he is and the guys around him and. And he just got rolled up on and. And it was just a re injury to a recent injury and it just happened. If that was a quarterback, if that was a wide receiver, it probably would have happened to anybody. Think about how much weight and energy is going through that. It's just a big dude.
Steve Kim
Right.
Dr. Jesse Morris
And they lost Slater before the season too. So like they just, you know, they took another and we got an update yesterday which, which I kind of saw recently. But. But it wasn't as clear with Amari and Hampton. Amari and Hampton's Gonna be out at least till week 13.
Smitty
Damn.
Dr. Jesse Morris
So, and they. They still have yet to announce the specific injury. I don't know if they ever will. My guess was probably a bad hyeno with a fracture that's, you know, I can't really explain otherwise why it would be this long. And they didn't say anything about surgery, but I wouldn't be surprised if he had it. And that's why they have to hold him out. If this was just a high ankle, he would have been back. If this was a fracture like, like a midfoot fracture, it would have been season ending. So it has to be something that's not season ending, but bad enough to hold you out six to eight weeks, you know, Jones fracture, I guess. But. But usually joint fractures are at least 10 weeks. That's what Jaden Reed has. So, like, there's only a couple things that traditionally this would apply to.
Steve Kim
That.
Dr. Jesse Morris
You could still Eljiba come back. And then even when he comes back, Greg Roman's gonna want to run a split offense, a split backfield. We know that they put Hassan hacking on IR himself with a hamstring. So it's going to be Vidal and Hampton. Whenever Hampton comes back and you know, shout out to Irons Day Gaston, he looks like the next coming of Darren Waller. You know, just eating up targets left and right. That. That offense is potent. It's just they keep losing important guys in the line.
JB
I'm sorry, jb. My last one that I want to ask you about personally, packers tight end with Tucker Craft, he. He tore his acl, right?
Smitty
Yeah.
Dr. Jesse Morris
You know, so this was a little bit of a fluky play. He took a shot to the outside of his knee. Not uncommon. This where most guys get tackled, but unfortunately the MCL was probably partially torn or maybe a little bit beat up already. And as a result, he ended up tearing his ACL as well.
JB
The.
Dr. Jesse Morris
The. The. These are uncommon from a contact perspective. They're only about 25 ACL tears are contacts, so pretty rare. Yeah, I alluded to it in the initial. It was just the angle of how his knee was and how the player hit him. It wasn't completely square. It was kind of like almost like in an oblique angle.
Smitty
And a lot of the times that.
Dr. Jesse Morris
Can lead to some of these funky things. The last ACL contact from an offensive player that reminds me comes to mind is J.K. dobbins. It's just. It's pretty rare when we see a contact acl. Ayuk, I think, had one actually as well.
Smitty
But.
Dr. Jesse Morris
But Not. It's not very common. The. The unfortunate thing, I guess adding insult to injury was yesterday was his birthday. So he found out about his acl, although he pretty much knew that, you know, that the season was over. So we might see Luke Musgrave, which, if I remember correctly, was actually drafted in the same class ahead of Kraft. Ahead you maybe become relevant. We saw Matthew, Matthew golden suffer probably a mild AC sprain. Hasn't really done a whole lot this year. Christian Watson has looked really good recently. Checked with a concussion, but he cleared the protocol. Dobbs or Dubes, however you pronounce it, has been really good, but he just doesn't accumulate a lot of yardage. He's just got kind of like these dink and dunk things and then they dontavian. Wicks has been dealing with a calf, so you know they're probably going to have Watson. They're going to have to depend on Musgrave. Josh Jacobs hasn't been super explosive after that calf injury, so they've been rolling in a lot of Emmanuel Wilson and. And they just haven't been able to finish. Right. How did they lose to the Panthers?
Smitty
I don't know. Let me ask you two more things real quick. Travis Hunter down there by you kind of been put on IR and then DeAndre Swift. Any update on those two guys? And the last guy I have for you, I have to ask. Nakua keeps having these lingering issues. Any, any, any information on those three guys?
Dr. Jesse Morris
Travis Hunter?
Smitty
They haven't.
Dr. Jesse Morris
They confirmed his ACL's intact.
JB
Okay.
Dr. Jesse Morris
We know that it happened last. Was it Wednesday? I think it was.
Smitty
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JB
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Smitty
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JB
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Smitty
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JB
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Dr. Jesse Morris
Thursday it was one of the two days in practice when he was practicing as a, as a DB or cb, whatever you want to call it. So he was on defense. It sounds like it was non contact, which is classic for acl, but they said his ACL is intact and they would have said hey, he, he's done for the year as opposed to he maybe he can come back. So that pretty much told me it wasn't his acl. Now they said it wasn't a long term injury, which is good news, but also helps me to say, okay, this is probably a bad MCL sprain, partial tear or it could be a decent meniscal tear. Could have also sprained his pcl. Kind of like what happened to Brock Bowers and Jaden Daniels and, and, and, and Ricky Pearsall. Like all these same guys, those ones have a tendency to, to be so annoying that you just have to hold them out for a month to six weeks. But it's, it's unfortunate. You know, he was at high risk in my opinion for being on both sides of the field as often as we thought he was going to be. But you know, it just happened in practice. It was fluky, but it easily could have happened in a game. As far as DeAndre Swift, he had been having a groin injury for the past three, four weeks and I think it got to the point last week where it just, it was so bad, where he just didn't have enough Time to clear in now. This isn't going away in a week. I can pretty much promise you that. These things suck. But he will probably be back in a week or two, and I wouldn't be surprised if he just takes the backfield over. As great as Managi looked last week, you know, I think anyone could have run on. On the Bengals defense there. But with that being said, I mean, it's hard to put Monagi back in the bag, Right. You saw what he can do. Swift is obviously banged up, so even if they split the backfield or 60, 40 or something, you know, and then. And then finally, Puka, you know, coming back off this ankle looked ridiculous, as he usually does. And then this was, again, kind of a fluky play. He's like the king of fluky plays. And there was a ball. I believe there was a ball on the ground, and he kind of landed on it. He caught it or whatever it was, and then someone landed on him.
JB
Yeah.
Dr. Jesse Morris
So the ball basically caught. Probably caused a rib injury. So you have rib, rib cartilage, and the nerves run through the cartilage. Now, it's unlikely that he fractured the ribbon. He could have bruised it, but he probably injured the cartilage in between, which hurts like hell. If you've ever had these, these are really painful. And. And so that's what we call a rib cartilage fracture, or some people call it a strain. But in general, they did an mri, which tells me it wasn't just super mild. He's also a very valuable player, so I think he'll probably be back this week. But it's just these Nicky Knack injuries that. That I love his talent. That just. You don't hear Jamar getting these. You don't hear Justin Jefferson getting these. El Monra doesn't get these. Like, you have all these elite Alphas. They don't get these Nikki Knack injuries. So it's just like, I. I love his talent, but just stay in the damn field, you know, And I would love to see. I mean, shout out to Matthew Stafford whatever the hell they did to his back.
Smitty
Nothing. He never was hurt. He was just trolling. Injection, everybody. Trolling everybody. All I know is that.
Steve Kim
I call that.
Dr. Jesse Morris
All I know is that he. He should be. I think he is in the MVP race, falling out. It reminds me of his. His crazy stretches when he was in Detroit, you know? You know, kind of like Flacco just. Age doesn't really matter. He just continues to, you know, to an extent. Aaron Rodgers, right. They just. These guys who just continue to be elite regardless of what number, you know, they have next to their name. Kind of like when Brady was older, like, you know, it didn't really matter if he was 40, whatever, you know, he just continues to ball out and, and regardless of who he's throwing to, he's still winning and still putting up impressive numbers. So, you know, shout out to him. Shout out to the whole Rams looking good. You know, they're.
Smitty
They're holding off.
Dr. Jesse Morris
I, you know, I still think it's funny that the, the. The Chiefs struggle really bad to the Bills in the, in the, in the regular season. Right, right there. I'd love to know if you guys hear any more about this, this Simmons situation with the personal and.
Smitty
Yeah, he came back.
JB
He's back now. He came back this week.
Dr. Jesse Morris
Yeah, but I mean, like, nobody knows.
Smitty
Yeah, they kept that on the hush.
Dr. Jesse Morris
When was the last time you heard of a family matter causing someone to miss a month in the middle of the game?
Smitty
Season? I don't know.
JB
Andy Reid. It's all starting with the Chiefs, though.
Smitty
Chiefs. Yeah. Always the Chiefs, man. Chief's got a lot of into.
Dr. Jesse Morris
Obviously no one expected to be this good this quickly, but hey, I mean, I think that played a role. I think their other line got banged up. You know, they didn't have. You know, Pacheco's out this week, so. You know what's out this week?
Smitty
This team, man. I'm just telling you. I mean, everybody kills somebody. It's a crazy but. I don't know. And it keeps winning. That's why it's not as big. No, because it's like, ohtani, you gotta play with that stress. So. I don't know, Doc. Great breakdown.
Dr. Jesse Morris
I'll finish you with this. What a ridiculous ending to the World Series.
Smitty
Oh, my God. Game seven ever, huh?
Dr. Jesse Morris
I. I was hauling it on my phone and I was like, no.
Smitty
I was like, no, Doc, I want some money.
JB
And.
Dr. Jesse Morris
And I was like. I was like. I was so. I was. My wife was about 10ft from me. I'm like. And she's like, tell me what's going on. And I'm like, the later this game goes, the more it favors the Dodgers.
Smitty
Oh, always. Yeah.
Dr. Jesse Morris
And. And I know, I know Vlad girl. I took care of him when I was in fellowship. Super nice guy. Kid. Kid at the time, not guy now. And very humble, very quiet. And I felt so bad, like his. His championship was right there.
Smitty
Yeah. And Canadian, though, just gone.
Dr. Jesse Morris
Just gone.
Steve Kim
Right.
Dr. Jesse Morris
And. And it was tariffs, you know, it's crazy. But. But that was, you know, that was in a hell of a. Of a World Series. I. I feel like they pulled it off. And shout out to the. The tweet I did yesterday for the last 10 years. World Series championships, and the Yankees are nowhere to be found.
Smitty
Damn. Ah, peace out, Doc. Always love he true, but he right about that. Hey, Braden Poco, big Yankees fan. He hot at the Yankees bone.
JB
We had them all.
Smitty
Yeah, brother. Did you hear. Did you see the parade yesterday? I went down there.
JB
You did not go down there. But yeah, I saw a bit of pieces of it on tv.
Smitty
I went down there to see Ohtani, homie.
JB
What do you say?
Smitty
Everything perfectly. I want to say that I'm so proud of this.
JB
His team.
Dr. Jesse Morris
And then I want to say you.
Smitty
Guys had greatest fans in the world. See now, now, y'. All. Now y' all say he capping now, though, because he really don't. He don't even need to. He's. He's faking it right here. Acting as if he's. He's rough. Rough around the edges.
JB
It really am.
Smitty
He not. You heard him yesterday, homie. On this podium, everybody can say thank.
JB
You in every language.
Smitty
When are you gonna admit. Just say, jb, you've been right. He's been trolling us the whole time. He'd been betting. He's been saving his bets. He's been over. He take. Took over Malibu. He took over all the land. He's been the guy. He's a guy. He's like the guy, homie. Of all guys, he's a mafia leader, the Mafioso, the Japanese deal. He's running the real estate mob. He's running gambling games. He's over and under King. He's knew exactly when to get two hits and when not to get hits and strike out like the went cold. And everybody's like, oh, the best. Let's take the money off of him. And then take the money off him. And then he hits two home run. And then everybody like, come on, homie. Real, that played us, homie.
JB
This is how he closed the video. I thought he was talking in the video at the end. What he say?
Smitty
He.
JB
He said something like, go ahead.
Smitty
I'm ready. I'm ready to get another ring next to you.
JB
I kind of like that a little bit. He said, I'm ready to get another ring next year. Yamamoto did the same thing. Had a look. He went out there.
Smitty
Thank you. My teammates, my coaches, our amazing stuff. And all the fans, we. We did it together. I love that. Dodgers I love los angeles. On your phone.
JB
My dog said amazing stuff.
Smitty
Hey.
JB
Like, he's basically saying, like, good shit. Like, that's what he's kind of trying to say.
Smitty
Just fucking. Just say, we got played. You don't need a translator no more to come to the mound. Stop playing with that. You don't need no translator. Come to the mountain, homie. Stop that celebrating.
JB
They smoking weed and like. Like, I know. They talking regular English.
Smitty
Yeah, come on, homie. I'm tired of dealing with the. On me. Did we give the court of the day or anything?
JB
Nah, I don't care about no more. I'm out of it now. When you don't say in the first 20 minutes, it kind of like, loses its.
Smitty
But why. Why did we not say it?
JB
Because you. You were spazzing out about politics for no reason. We're supposed to go straight to it. And you got these say that.
Smitty
I know what happened. I know what happened.
JB
You brought in.
Smitty
You mimicked me as me. You played me. You did a good job. And I. And I said, good job playing me. And then I went into the whole real act.
JB
No.
Smitty
And then. And then the real thing happened. The. The broad got banned from Gold Gym because she was mad at a dude with a dick was in her locker room. And then you defended it damn near. And then we didn't say the quote of the day at all.
JB
I'm lying. You were like, all right, it's time for quote. You know what? Real quick. And then you just.
Smitty
Yeah, you're right. You're right. You're right on that. Well, we gotta pay the bills. Bet us our greatest segment of the whole show. Quote of the day, brought to you by BET US tv. So many quote of the day, when they gang up on you, it just means you are too powerful for them to face alone.
JB
Ah, that's too. That's too long. But it's a good message when you gang.
Smitty
When they gang up on you. See as many times and all them did, it just means you are too powerful for them to face alone. It's just a fact. It's just a true statement.
JB
Yeah, like, it's nothing special about that. But, like, I get it.
Smitty
I had to say it, though. Underdog fantasy belongs to this segment. Contrary to belief. Make sure you download the app today. Use our promo code. Now you get a hundred dollars on five dollars. Underdog fantasy use the promo code. Coach jb Sweetie, you're crazy to only the people who can manipulate you contrary to belief.
JB
Okay?
Smitty
You are crazy to only the people who can manipulate. Can't manipulate you. If you can't manipulate me, Smitty, you're automatically crazy. You talk about me automatically because you can't manipulate me in the conversation. Keep it real. Let's keep it funky. Can't manipulate me, homie. So guess what? I'm crazy to you. They'd be crazy because, you know, you couldn't manipulate me, homie.
JB
Psycho. I'm gonna say this. This was not one of your better days when it comes to quoting Psycho.
Smitty
Who else said I'm psycho?
JB
Homegirl.
Smitty
Huh?
JB
Homegirl.
Smitty
Like, Mina called me psycho. And you're. That's like your greatest, like, week or month conversation. You're like, you're high. You're hyped on that. Still me.
JB
Like, to me, that's how she cooked. Like, yeah, forget everything else. Like, that was the line where I'm like, damn, that's good, because I just haven't heard somebody get called psycho in a long time.
Smitty
So she got personal. She showed fake felonies, and I was gonna show some too, but I was like, you know, I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna be that petty. I'm not gonna show why. How she got into. Of her Jewish husband. Tv. How he owns the TV and stations. Huh?
JB
If it's real beef, though, with somebody, it. It's kind of like.
Smitty
Yeah, I'm still not made, though. I'm still not made, though.
JB
Like, Kendrick called Drake a.
Smitty
Like, I was gonna. I showed you the pr. I showed you the private text on. On your girl, the three technique. And I. I could have blasted her out more, like, and showed you the truth that nobody knew her. But I didn't. I didn't have to do it, though. You know, people.
JB
Sabrina, y' all came.
Smitty
But she came out and lied on my name, and I could have went out real. Yeah, yeah. But I could have came out and said, hey, girl, here's real text from people that you said you knew that don't know you. But I didn't do it. I didn't do it.
JB
So you literally did do it.
Smitty
I didn't do it.
JB
It's like the second, third time that you said that on air.
Smitty
But I didn't show it, did I?
JB
I mean, you're saying it, so I don't understand. I don't understand.
Smitty
I mean, I'm saying I'll say it, but I showed you. And I didn't show the world at all. But I didn't show the. I'm not friends with three techniques.
JB
I know, but I'm saying is, like, that was somebody who I brought on, who's a connection to me, right? You've never seen or knew prior, so that's. That's his way. Not as serious.
Smitty
You already had beef with Mina before.
JB
You know, for years she had, but I've had.
Smitty
Because I had personal beef. She started.
Dr. Jesse Morris
So.
Smitty
Yeah.
JB
So when it gets to that level, there's no holes born.
Smitty
So you. When people start being for you, you just automatically forgive them?
JB
No, I'm saying there's no rules, though. Oh, so, like, you can't have, like, put out these fake allegations.
Smitty
Think about what you just said, homie. Think about what you just said, homie. There's no rules. There's no rules. So she come after me and. And my three kids, but there's no rules now, right?
JB
Huh?
Smitty
So if there's no rules, why. Why are you mad at me?
JB
I didn't say nothing about that case.
Smitty
No, you just said no rules. Right?
JB
Let's make that clear. I'm saying y' all are. Y' all don't like each other now. So I'm saying never liked her.
Smitty
Never like y'.
Dr. Jesse Morris
All.
JB
It's hate now.
Smitty
So, like, she came. She came out with the fake, homie. Come on now.
JB
You missed my point.
Smitty
We already talked about the poll question. Kyler Murray is cooked. So let's dive into this real quick before we go take a quick break before Steve Kim. I have a very fundamental issue with y', all, the generation that y' all are in, and I feel sorry for the youth right now. And it's not funny at all. This video is not funny to me at all. And Sweetie knows I'm very, very mature and humble on this show, and he. And he has to know you.
JB
All right? No, go ahead.
Smitty
Take a look at this, man. I'm very concerned about this, and this is not laughing matter whatsoever. So take a look at what's going on with 76's player, Sean King's favorite player. Go ahead.
JB
In a minute. Where my keys at?
Smitty
Hey. Well, it. I'll go home tonight, I'll drink my yak and smoke my stick, and I'll get it back.
JB
Crapping. In a. Cops says that she believes the Colts defense specifically is ready and built for a deep playoff run. Check this out.
Smitty
They're not the best defense in the NFL, but they're one of the most interesting this year.
Steve Kim
And obviously defensive coordinator Lou Anne Ruo.
Smitty
Is a big part of why. Dan, A couple things jump out. A lot jumps out to me, but two things. One is Just the. The ability to change game to game and individually game plan for opponents. I know you're going to get into that, but like last two weeks, man, like up from the Rams, obviously you're playing a ton of zone against them because you're worried about them. Two weeks, man, like, you go from the Rams, obviously you're playing a ton of zone. Usually game plan for opponents. I know you're going to get into that, but like last two weeks, man, like, you go. I want to repeat a few things you said because I want to make sure we're clear. I know you're going to get into it. Means I don't have to get into it because I don't know what the I'm talking about. And I can't get into it because I can't show anybody in America or what the I'm discussing because I'm reading it off a teleprompter. So therefore I can't talk about what the it is because I don't know it. Number one, Darnell, where'd you go, huh? So let's keep listening.
JB
I already know where you going with this, so I'm just. I just have to get up from.
Smitty
The Rams, obviously you're playing a ton of zone against them because you're worried about them beating you out over the top. Then in the first half against Las Vegas team without Brock Bowers or much threat of receiver, 70% man coverage. So that flexibility is something that Luann Rumo has really brought to a unit that you remember under guest Bradley pretty much just played cover three. Then the thing, the other thing I wanted to highlight. They throw so much at you in pressure. Different styles of pressures. The simulated pressures have been.
Dr. Jesse Morris
They.
JB
I'm not doing this today. I'm not doing, you know. Yeah, I'm not doing it today.
Smitty
Ah, homie. Did you see dad's face, homie, when she. Homie, he was like. He did a damn near a smitty right there. Let's keep it real. Dan damn near did a smitty when she gave him that. Like, he did like, go back a little.
JB
Baby.
Smitty
Can you rewind this a little bit in Dan's. Look at dad right here, homie. Like, when she tells him this. Let me hear it from again. Styles of pressures. The simulated pressures have been.
JB
They're sick, homie.
Smitty
Like, did a smitty, homie. When I say some off the wall, homie, he damn near was like, like, like, it makes no sense what she just said. Like, this is getting to be so ridiculous that he can't even like fathom being up there with her no more. And we gotta be real. We gotta just say enough's enough. Little Asian lady, you gotta go away. We gotta be enough's enough. It's a mockery of football. It's a mockery of sports. It's a mockery of football. And I say it's a mockery of sport in a plural form that means sport in general is being this decapitated in front of our very eyes. It's being castrated. It's being castrated. She's clipping around the mushroom head right now. She's cutting us so our just fall out. She cutting us right now, homie. She cutting the umbilical cord away from head. Cutting away football from us, man. Or from us men. She's taking it from us by giving us.
JB
Not changing football right now. She's not making the sport work right now.
Smitty
She said 70, but. But then they just jumped into cover three. See, I would love for Amina to get on camera, get the film up and show me those cover three percentages. I would like to see the 70 of the COVID three that she just talked about so eloquently. Because you know what? It's very hard to run cover three out of a two shell. Look, unless you invert a safety down and you screw them down tight and then you rotate the other safety to the middle. And then we see the corners bell out at the snap. And then we see the backers take out the flat hook curl area. And then we go, oh, now it's cover three. But when we got quarters match across the board, which turns into cover zero. And she calls it cover three.
JB
We got a problem.
Smitty
See that. Foreign. We are back in the building, man. Shout out to everybody. Pound the like button, man. And download the app Underdog Fantasy today and use our promo code. Coach JB Steve Kim will join us here in a few minutes. Man. I Bailey show this clip, man. This right here. I need to be solo for this show.
Dr. Jesse Morris
This.
Smitty
Can all my big skinny go to the back. Did this work? Did he just twerk, homie? At the end of the move at the show, the clip and he's not playing. We wonder why. I'm just telling you right now. You're all generations, homie. I'm just gonna tell you right now, y' all generations.
JB
He's not playing because he's twerking.
Smitty
It's not your generation, but it's actually under you. But it. You're. They're. I'm gonna say Right now, they're homie. Yeah, righty. That's exactly right. You said it. Yes. Because he's twerking. He's not playing right? He ain't.
JB
That's why he's injured.
Smitty
I want to say some words so bad, homie.
JB
I'm so glad you're not, because I know you talked about it earlier today in the comments, in the private chat, how mature that you were going to be moving forward. And I'm proud of your growth and, you know, clap it up for JB off for just growth and knowing how to hold his tongue when necessary and not spit out every single thought that comes to his brain. That's a sign of a man and being mature. Because as a kid, you just say whatever. When you grow, become a man or a grown woman, you know how to like, hold certain things in. And I'm glad that we're getting. Getting to that point. At almost age 50 with JB.
Smitty
Let me ask you something. Does that McLean kid, what's his mom?
JB
He a Hoover. I know that.
Smitty
What's his mom?
JB
I don't know. Ah, I, I know. I know a relative of his, though. But I, I think the relatives. The relative. I know. Can you make.
Smitty
Can we play a game? Can we play a game?
JB
I know a cousin of his I'm real cool with, actually.
Smitty
Go ahead. Let me ask you something. Who does Travis Hunter play for?
JB
The Jacksonville Jaguars.
Smitty
So he's not a jag. When your girl always nagging at you, She's a nag and she also is a hag. So what does he make himself now that you've seen all those other words been listened to him? What would that make him? So he's not a hag, he's not a jag, and he's not a. Oh.
JB
Is it because he's NBA player. I get it. Is he like Mr. Get the Bag? Like the bag? Because they got a lot of. They get paid all this money when they're young? Is that what you mean?
Smitty
No, I just wish that we could open up YouTube and say the word that I want to say. But hey, I'll be back when ESPN and YouTube TV and all that gets back together. We'll be back on, on, on Titties at Tequila. So.
JB
Oh, my God, that, like, you can't even do that no more.
Smitty
I can't do, homie. I couldn't even do my three fastest three minutes, homie.
JB
Hey, Jamie was watching Monday night on his phone like this. He gave. He gave me hell one day. I don't Know if it was on the show or behind the scenes because I said I was in the car watching some games on my phone. He said that you ain't been watching the game then. So I threw it back in his face yesterday. You should have got Hulu, homie. Shout out to Hulu.
Smitty
Hulu. Another streaming app, man disappoints you, homie.
JB
I've always had Hulu. No issues.
Smitty
Well, the co host of Whitlocks Fearless, the main man, the Korean co sell himself, the co host of Knock that three Knockdown Rule with Mario Lopez and the knower of all things who was in live attendance in Dallas to watch his Miami Hurricanes go down to SMU for the second defeat of the year. And I know he's not happy. Our main man Steve Kim joins the show.
Steve Kim
Gentlemen, good, good, good morning to you. By the way. That video right there. Yeah. Social engineering has worked. It has worked. Anyway, guys, how you doing?
Smitty
Interesting. We're doing good. You? How are you doing is the question. That's Minnie and I mean, we've been worried about you a little bit. Go ahead.
JB
Yeah. This whole week I was nervous.
Steve Kim
Look, I care.
Smitty
I don't care that much what it is.
Steve Kim
I, I. Look, do these games disappoint me sometimes? Yeah. I had a good time in Dallas. I was kind of like jfk. Outside of that one little thing that happened in Dallas, everything else was a nice trip.
Smitty
So. So what was going on anyway? I was gonna bring that up, but I didn't want to bring that up, unfortunately. So you mean, so you're saying some unfortunate situation happened?
Steve Kim
Well, Mario crystal ball assassinated our season. And it is what it is. I'm kind of resigned to it, unfortunately. That's the second field storming I've seen in about a year. I was at the Georgia Tech game.
Smitty
Is that you right there on the field?
Steve Kim
No, I was actually in section 221 with the rest of the Miami fans kind of in like a daze. And I'm gonna have a, a public service announcement from the Kimster to all ACC teams when you play Miami, secure your goal posts because they may not be safe. They could be coming down. That's reality.
JB
Yeah, man, I.
Steve Kim
Coach, I have a question. Looking ahead, do you not have any of the ESPN ABC networks right now?
JB
You don't. There's no palooza right now.
Smitty
Steve. Steve.
JB
He's being cheap, Steve. I told him to buy Hulu and he has all this money he makes. He makes dinner. A million dollars a year and he don't want to Go get Hulu.
Steve Kim
This may be a problem.
Smitty
Steve, do you know. Have you heard about. Have you heard this thing called Klarna?
Steve Kim
No, what's that? What is that?
Smitty
It's like a. I guess that's some sort of finance. It's a joke now around here because I, I told him, hey, I was like, hey, can you Clara my $41,000 boat repair. Well, I guess it's like a financing type of thing for like, like shitty credit. So I'm gonna clone on my boat repairs. 41,000. But Steve, I want to be clear real quick. I want to be clear real quick what you, what you said. I'll have Palooza up and running some sort of way. I already have it in the works.
Steve Kim
So you're gonna do the Malcolm X. By any means necessary.
Smitty
Any means necessary.
JB
I'm gonna have a bootleg, Steve.
Steve Kim
Because, Because Mario, Mario said, hey Kim, come over tomorrow to watch all the fights. And I was like, so Mario, it's week 11, it's college football. The next time I'll be at your house will probably be in early January. But as of right now, these Saturdays, I only get 14 of these a week. And I'm thinking in the back of.
Smitty
My head a year, am I gonna.
Steve Kim
Have to bring eight laptops and tablets to coach jp?
Smitty
Nah, I'll have it now. I don't know about the four boxes though is the problem.
Steve Kim
Well, that's fine as long as we get the base games.
Smitty
Yeah, yeah. I still had four box. I still had four box on any other network other than.
Steve Kim
And. And I'm gonna bring both my laptops.
JB
Like trying to game plan. How you gonna get the job.
Smitty
I can actually Remember Steve, on YouTube you can build the multi view. Yeah, so I did that Saturday.
Steve Kim
I'm gonna bring both my laptops. So we'll have it going. But I have to tell you, I. I still have Spectrum cable and guys, I don't ever want to get rid of it because for what I need, it's actually very good. If you're a Dodger fan. I'm one of the few people that I know that have Spectrum all year round. Big 12 Network, they don't have one. I'm Big 10 Network. ACC, SEC, FCC. I was the only guy that I knew of that had PAC 10 or PAC 12 network before that went off.
Smitty
The air, Steve, I got, I'm a prince. I got a little bit of principal left. I got like, I just can't buy another streaming app. Like they just keep us coach.
Steve Kim
We got into a slippery slope when everyone said cut the cable, pull the cord.
Smitty
AI agents are everywhere, automating tasks and.
Steve Kim
Making decisions at machine speed.
JB
But agents make mistakes.
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Steve Kim
Board and go a la carte and go your own bundle. How's that working out? How is that working out?
Smitty
It's a joke, man. It really is. It's a joke joke.
Steve Kim
It is a form of extortion and every year it happens right during the middle or the start of football season. I remember in 2023 the opening Thursday night game on ESPN was Utah hosting Florida. Really good game. And then right as they cut to Salt Lake City, the screen went blue and I was like, okay, it's a satellite thing. Satellite thing right around 407 I said, this is not a satellite thing, is it? And I went online, and at that point, Spectrum had an issue. Remember? So Spectrum's gonna come around to having issues where. I don't know how long that deal is, but I do say this to all these people that have Hulu, Peacock, every single one. Okay? At a certain point, you have to show some discipline.
Smitty
Yeah. Stand for something or fall for anything. You know what? I'm glad I saw the millionaires last night tweeting J.J. watt, all these other guys when the millionaires say that I'm not buying another goddamn streaming app to watch Monday Night Football. And. And I'm glad those guys speak up because. Because many just alluded to, like, you know, oh, JB got all that money. But that's not the point. You can't make that. You can't use your money for these billionaires to keep jb.
JB
That's all I'm saying.
Steve Kim
With that, as Big Worm said in Friday, it's about the principality. It is how it has to be adhered to. Now, look, I have ESPN plus because they had boxing, and they still have some boxing. They have the 30 for 30 library, and they show some games. I have the Zone, and by the way, the Zone, that article I wrote last week, calling them out. Oh, they want to talk to me.
JB
Yeah, I know they do. They piss.
Smitty
I canceled the Zone. I canceled them.
Steve Kim
Right. And by the way, I'm gonna have to. You bring my computer for sure, because they're showing Virgil Ortiz, Erickson, Lubin this Saturday.
Smitty
That's a fight I have to. I can get. I can get this on back.
Steve Kim
I'll just watch it on my laptop. Don't worry about that. And then I also have Netflix.
Smitty
Okay. Yeah, I have all this.
JB
And I got Netflix. My other accounts, I share with Homie, and we're good to go. So I got two accounts that I pay for. Hulu and Netflix. I'm good, Dave.
Smitty
I started to show off. You gotta have. I don't even know what they are anymore. You got to have ESPN Plus, Peacock. Peacock, YouTube, TV, Amazon, Netflix, Fubo, Tubi, Hulu sticks, Disney plus shit bird.
JB
If I get the jailbroken fire stick, though, all this can be free.
Smitty
Now. Now you're speaking. You're speaking Ohtani. Now you're speaking Ohtani to me because I don't even know what the that is.
Steve Kim
Can I tell you something? Please do one of my lines in my article about the Zone making everything or basically a lot of their best fights, pay per View, after they promised we've killed pay per view. It's over. I said, nobody has done more for the sale of fire sticks than the Zone.
JB
Yeah.
Steve Kim
Overall disputes, like, what is going with Disney, ESPN, with YouTube. It only further enhances my theory. You are driving people into piracy. Bottom line.
JB
Yeah. Is what it is. You know, I. I can't confirm nor deny if I, back in the day, used to be a part of that type of stuff. But I get it. I mean, it is too much. This stuff costs too much. But let's keep things moving.
Smitty
My homeboy just hit me up, said 12.99amonth, you know, and he is the guru of fire stick. He'd been doing this. He'd been doing this for a long. Since we were young. Like, he had that when we were young. But anyway, he told me he's gonna hook me up.
JB
Yeah, you'll be good.
Smitty
Everybody's been sending me messages. Steve, I got you. Jb, dm, shout out to all the fans. I appreciate you, but when I say, But I got 16 TVs, they go quiet.
JB
That's the issue.
Steve Kim
You know what was magical back in the days? I don't even think you were born. There used to be this thing called a black box.
Smitty
Yeah, it's like.
Steve Kim
And I never. So it's basically a cable box that was rigged. So you got everything from prize fights to porn, and it was just free and.
Smitty
Yeah, the porn's on there.
Steve Kim
Yeah, we're gonna watch the fights. I go, you watched? You paid for. No, no, we got the black box. And I actually have never seen a black box. I never. I actually never went to a home with a black box. I've seen no evidence.
Smitty
I had one. I had a few I've always heard about.
JB
I never seen it. I have no idea what it looks like.
Steve Kim
Wow.
JB
No.
Steve Kim
Like a regular box that was rigged. And if you knew a guy that worked for, like, let's say you had an uncle that worked for a cable company.
JB
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Steve Kim
Just do a couple things there. Next thing you know, you got Playboy Channel and Spice.
Smitty
Yeah, yeah. My homeboy is. I'm talking to right now. Yeah. Shout out to my boy Dave. He. He shot me. That. Yeah, he's a barber on Netflix. He was cutting my hair on Netflix. He got all that. But anyway, guys. You guys didn't hit him up. But anyway, let's go. Let's dive into this show, man.
JB
You know, Damn.
Smitty
Go ahead. Nah, it's legal now. He said, I just need 15 sticks.
JB
Yeah. Go to Amazon right now and buy. Buy Nine sticks. Hook it up and it's set up. It's a one time purchase. You got it?
Smitty
Yeah. I don't know how it works. I think I'll get it and then.
JB
It won't work, homie. It's not. I, I used to sell them. I'll say it, I used to sell them back in the days before I came to la, before I was on tv, before I was a superstar slinging sticks when I was in the hood. When I was at Ball State my senior year as I was graduating, I need some side money. I started hustling. I was selling them.
Smitty
It was very easy.
Steve Kim
What I would do jb if I were you, I would buy one and test it out, learn how to use it on one and then if you.
Smitty
Like it, my boy's like telling me he's easy as doesn't offer. It's clear he likes.
JB
NFL players buying them. For me, I was up charging the hell out of them.
Smitty
Boy, I'm down to be bps it. I'm down. Let's do it.
Dr. Jesse Morris
Again.
Smitty
Come back to it, Steve. Money don't do at the end of the day when they take your away, guess what? We still got to go back to fire sticks that we were doing in the late 90s.
JB
Everything's full circle, homie.
Smitty
So it's damn near gung ho white shadow. It's back to 3 Company. It's back to the. It's back to that. So it is what it is. I'm cool with is what it is all things football.
JB
Because that, that's the main priority. I do want to ask you real quick. So this Jake Paul and Javante T. Davis fight is done, it's cooked, it's over?
Steve Kim
Yes. It's going to Bolivian. It's out of here. And I believe that they're moving the date. I mean they've called out everyone from Francis and Ganu to Nate Diaz. I think they're going to go to tank Gavin Tito Ortiz next. I don't, I don't know what they're gonna do. Here's the issue though, and here's the reality. And I know everyone, certain people are going to give MVP promotions. Paul's company credit for pulling the plug. Here's the hypocrisy of it because Jake Paul put out a tweet saying oh we can't. I'm glad we're not rewarding this woman beater, blah, blah, blah. Wait a minute. He's been that nothing new. You knew his history. Second of all, if you go on I don't even know it's up anymore. But if you look at the seating chart for the sale of tickets, it was the blue sea, a lot of unsold seats. My question is, let's say that's fight was robust at the box office. Let's say every single ticket was on track to be sold with a really good secondary market, right?
Smitty
Yeah.
Steve Kim
Would they have been, would have been a moral or ethical play at that point? That's my question.
JB
That's a hell of a question too.
Smitty
Yeah, I, I don't know. This is, this is going to be interesting. That fight is done and then you have. There's a fight this weekend you want to watch, correct?
Steve Kim
Erickson Lubin, a top five junior Walter weight or excuse me, junior middleweight against Virgil Ortiz. Now, if Virgil Ortiz wins this fight and for the WBC interim, not the full blown, he has two choices here and it's going to be a tough fight. Lubin's a skilled, slick, jet, quick southpaw that could punch a little bit. Right. This is a real test. But if he gets past Lubin, I believe he has two choices here moving forward. Either Sebastian Fundura, the full blown, the full blown WBC champion, or Jaron Boots. Let it ride.
JB
Oh, I want to see that.
Smitty
Let me ask you this real quick before we get into all the good fun stuff. Your good friend has passed away suddenly. I didn't know anything was going on. Shout out to your guy, Victor Conte, you pro. You. You tweeted that out. You've had relationship with him for quite some time. Explain that. And what happened to him?
Steve Kim
Well, he. He had pancreatic cancer.
Smitty
My dad died of that.
Steve Kim
Yeah. And it came up on him quick. He fought hard, battle. And I remember back in March when he told me it was basically kept a secret outside of very few members of the inner circle. He said, I'm going to battle this. I'm going to try to fight this. I need to live a healthier lifestyle in terms of getting rest. And it just succumbed. I was supposed to visit him in September when a fly out to the Bay Area and then the week where they were making my travel plans, they said, Steve, it's, it's not a good time. Why don't we back this up? And I said, okay. I kind of knew because I know pancreatic cancer, the chances of survival, especially at that age, they're not good. I was told Thursday night as I was packing for my trip to Dallas that Steve, we're bringing him home for hospice. He's got Three to four more days. I just want to let you know. And the company snack will continue on Casey Morton, the right hand woman for that company.
Dr. Jesse Morris
She will.
Steve Kim
She'll continue the legacy. You know, people have asked me, how did I meet Victor Conte? And obviously, like everyone else, I knew who he was from Balco. So that was in like from 96, 97, all the way to 2003 when the Balco offices were actually raided by the FBI. I mean, helicopters, black, black cars, people coming in with guns, all this were basically giving really good vitamins, right? Everyone knows balco. And I don't think people know the full history of it. They didn't just do steroids starting in the mid-90s. They were actually a company that did blood testing and nutritional work for athletes in the mid-80s. They were actually very clean. And Victor will tell you, we had to keep up with the Joneses and we made a deal with the devil and we just ended up being better than anybody and everybody else at that. So around 2009 or 10, I wrote an article about how Shane Mosley, who had tested positive after working with balco, has. And then people were saying, well, he's passed every drug test. And I just happened to write, I said, guys, here's the thing. It's not about Mosley. Just because an athlete passes a drug test does not mean they are clean. Designer steroids were created to basically not be tested positive. And Victor Conte read my article. He said, steve, I really liked your article. It's impressive. You're the only guy saying this, and I just want to give you a shot.
Smitty
I go ahead.
Steve Kim
I looked at the email and I said, hold on. I go, are you the Victor Conte? And he goes, yeah, that's me. And I called him, we had like an hour and a half chat. And that's how we developed the friendship in 2010. I can honestly tell you guys, he is one of the two or three most intelligent human beings I have ever come across. Just his knowledge, his recall, his memory, and his ability to give information. His storytelling was incredible. He was an incredibly generous human being. And I feel blessed and lucky that he came into my life. Really.
Smitty
Let me. I don't care what anybody says. He saved baseball. I don't care what anyone says. You can say all you want and give me all the, all that other. That moral flaws and all that. He say baseball, because it ain't been the same since.
Steve Kim
Well, you know, it's funny, on Sunday, I was one of the ESPN showed the 30 for 30 on the Maguire Sosa battle of 98. And I look at this and I said, we shouldn't demonize these guys. They did save baseball after the malaise of the 1994 player work stoppage that the owners engineered. And here's the interesting thing. One of the more fascinating 30 for 30s was 9.79. And it was about Ben Johnson in the seoul Olympics of 88. Now, Smitty, you weren't even born that your parents may have not even met at 1988, right?
Smitty
But I remember. And all these mothers.
Steve Kim
And he blew away Carl Lewis in this legendary field, right? And everyone knew. And he got busted about three days later. It turns out, guys, that out of the nine finalists in that 100 meter dash in the 88 Olympics, eight of them were either busted or suspected of PED use. And it brings about a quote that I learned from Victor Conte that was stated by Charlie Francis, who was the track coach of Ben Johnson. He said, oh, it's a level playing field, just not the one you think it's on.
Smitty
Steve, People don't want to talk about. What about Greg Lamond and the, the whole Armstrong, Lance Armstrong, the swimmers. I mean all of them.
Steve Kim
Let me, let me say this about Victor. Victor is like the Barry Bonds of this thing because they're associated together and Barry Bonds has a great deal of respect. And it was mutual with Victor Conte because he actually helped out his father when he was going through health issues near the end of his life. And Victor had a. Victor thinks very highly of Barry Bonds's loyalty and, and how committed he was. And if you think that BALCO was the only group of people doing what they did, you are naive. It's like Barry Bonds. Barry Bonds was not the only guy doing what he did. Here's the difference. He was so much better than everybody. I've always said Barry Bonds was just better off just sticking out at 68 home runs. Just stick to 67 once he got to 73. And plus with the way he acted towards the media, it did not help him. But there's a lot of hypocrisy. But I found Victor to be an incredible friend and one of the most fascinating individuals. I'll be writing a column on my relationship with him tomorrow that'll be released Thursday on Snack.com. i still can plan to work with them for the rest of my life as long as I can. I take a snack nutritional supplement product every single day of my life. That is not a lie. From ZMA to Expedite to pro Glycogen to robitine to hypoxygen, I'm a believer in it. And people have to understand one thing. He did not rat. People say that. And that's the one thing that bothered me, said Steve. I didn't rat. And that's why I went to jail. I went to a federal prison. And he has some funny stories about Club Fed, about what you could do. And he was an unbelievable storyteller. And he was incredibly. He did not hide from his past. Guys, if you go to his office in San Marcos, which is the San Francisco Bay area, Bill Romanowski, his pictures on the wall, okay? Every other notorious.
Smitty
Bill loves them. I talked to Bill. He loves him.
Steve Kim
Every athlete, whether it was Balco or Snack, he's still on the wall. By the way, the supersonics of the 1990s, the Sean camp, Gary Payton teams, he helped them out with blood work and blood testing. The late 90s dolphins with Jimmy Johnson, that team, pictures on the wall. Every single. Even Marion Jones, all that stuff is on the wall. They do not hide from their past. And he said, look, I did what I did. I paid the price, and now I want to be committed to reversing some of the sins that I committed. It was an incredible reinvention. He's a lightning rod. I get it. Some. Some people still don't like them, still don't believe that is certainly their right. My view is he was a hell of a guy, and I loved him.
Smitty
No doubt. That's all that matters. Yeah, no doubt. Smitty. Steve, last night, real quick, before we get into Miami in depth, Arizona, you've tweeted out something I've been saying for some years. I. I think that the team, they're one and two records. The same with the Bengals. Smitty pointed out, like, you're not winning. But my eyes work, and the offense is much more in tune. It's better. They make layups, they can play catch, they can move the football. They get first downs. And they won a game against the Cowboy team that. I don't know, Smitty, maybe the real poll question is, was it a big win for the Cardinals or a horrible loss for the Cowboys? Like, that's how you kind of look at these two teams. I think Brissette makes him go. And I'll be interested to see, other than just money, what they do in the. In the future here. Brissette obviously is not the guy for the team's franchise, but right now, I'm saying, on a bad team, why not? He had Nothing to lose when I.
Steve Kim
See Brissette just get the ball off on time at the top of his drop. Coach and Smitty, I. I would be willing to bet in. These receivers can never say it, but it's probably in the back in the front of their minds. Man, it's great to have the ball on time. It's great to have a quarterback that plays on structures. And when I come out of a route, I could expect the ball to kind of at least be released and in this area instead of this keystone. I mean, there's too many plays with Kyler Murray. Remember the Benny Hill show, coach?
Smitty
Yep.
Steve Kim
Remember the end of the Benny Hill show was always people chasing each other. Remember these.
Smitty
That's what he does.
Steve Kim
Runs around and so many times with Kyler Murray. I have the Benny Hill theme song in my head. Berset. The play actually goes more or less to structure. That matters.
Smitty
Hey, shout out. Matt's gonna be on Whitlock today. He just texted me. Yes, he is.
Steve Kim
I brokered that. I did that because I am the great Uniter.
JB
I do the bridge.
Steve Kim
Yeah, and shout out to Bailey. He helped me. He'll helped it too. But by the way, I like the way Matt apologized to Whitlock yesterday because they were playing the. They were playing clips of our show and Mac. All right. I mean, I'm sorry. He just grunted.
Smitty
Yeah, I'm sorry. I got beef with Matt. I'm gonna talk to him about Friday.
Steve Kim
Oh.
Smitty
Oh, boy. Yeah, this whole fight song thing, we. We got a problem with it.
Steve Kim
I happen to agree with Matt 1000%.
Smitty
Well, so do I, but three years ago, I told him to keep that and he. Matt didn't want to do this fight song and now he does again. That's the problem I have with Matt.
Steve Kim
Wait a minute. He flip flopped.
Smitty
He flip flopped on the song. I don't like that.
Steve Kim
Here's the thing that I found interesting about Matt. Wasn't he the guy saying, oh, all these players should get paid good on. And now he hates. I'm like, Matt, someone tried to tell you. You're. You're creating a band of mercenaries.
Smitty
I've been saying it credit.
Steve Kim
Don't you give Matt credit for evolving his beliefs. I. I respect that. I actually respect that.
Smitty
Oh, yeah, well, I met on Friday.
JB
Ain't nothing wrong with changing when you get more information and you think about things more thoroughly. Ain't nothing wrong with changing your mindset behind something. So.
Smitty
Yeah, that's why I just don't. I don't ever change.
JB
So So I respect it. I respect it. But Steve Kim, man, that's one of my favorite summers of the week three.
Steve Kim
What you got? All right, Week ten, I was stuck in Dallas. I was able to watch the games. I still got to go to the office. I got to watch more games that I missed. Today as I go to the little Orange bowl of Montebello/East LA, let's look at, take a look at the good C.J. bailey. Now here was an underrated quarterback that was best known for throwing the ball to Jeremiah Smith in high school at Chaminade in South Florida. He's a guy that's developing very well with sports. Pressed into duty as a true freshman and as a sophomore, he continues to ascend. Fixed his delivery a little bit, it's not so low. And he absolutely shredded, sliced and diced an undefeated Georgia Tech team at Carter Finley. And that offense is now rolling. With that said Haynes King once again, didn't he throw for 400, run for 100. That guy should still be in the Heisman race. But C.J. bailey set the tone early and he's a good, solid pocket passer. Good touch and he's got athleticism. It'll be interesting to see if he hits the transfer portal. That's the way it works nowadays. But he might be their best quarterback since the guy by the name of Philip Rivers. And NC State has had more than a few NFL guys after Rivers, though.
Smitty
Google it.
Steve Kim
Also, I gotta give Utah credit. They had a gut check situation, must win at home, and they did the Under Armour. They must protect this house. And they emphatically dominated and defeated and just blew away Cincinnati, which was on a run. And this is a testament to Kyle Whittingham. I don't know if this is his final season or not, but to me, the utes are the ultimate culture program. They're sound and they're steady. And now that the quarterback play, the whole Cam Rising thing the last two years kind of disrupted everything they did. But more or less the quarterback plays been very good with that new system. And Utah stays in the thick of the Big 12 race. So shout out.
Smitty
Gotta get credit to Weddle. Weddell showed up and and threw the flag in the crowd and yeah, did his thing.
Steve Kim
Let's be honest, right now, they are the. The superior you and they do it like this with the fingers. Not like that. Anyway. All right, then finally, this young man at Death Valley led Duke to a historic victory because Duke does not win a lot or ever against Clemson on the road. And this guy played Quarterback like a genius. Darian Mensah got a good arm, throws accurately. And I love the fact that Manny Diaz at the end of the game. So let's go for two. 46, 45. Manny Diaz is growing into a pretty good head coach. I don't think he ever should have taken that Miami job when he did. I don't think he was ready for it. But five, six years later, I think Duke is becoming a really solid program and he's building the from the foundation that was laid by Mike Elko. Now the bad gotta keep it real. Mario Crystal Ball. This is a common theme. The way Mario Cristobal coaches Miami goes into these games down 10 to 14 points, slow tempo. He wants to be methodical and he wants to win the national title. But fellas, you know what national title he wants to win?
JB
What?
Steve Kim
The time of possession. National title. He doesn't care about point. He wants to say where number one in time of possession. We're number one in time of possession. Miami had the ball for 37 minutes, 42 seconds. They scored 20 points on a pretty mediocre defense. And that was a game. If you look at the ratings, you look at the matchups, that's a throw game. That has to be a game where you tell Carson Beck, whatever happens, we're gonna let you throw on early downs. We're gonna go vertical. And they were doing that early. But the way Mario approaches a game strategically and philosophically, I don't think it's good. And I saw things in that game. He has lost the Miami fan base because I was there and I was actually glad I could see it because I could talk to people. Right the way Mario Crystal ball coaches, it leads to closer games than are necessary and upsets. This is his fourth loss in the last 12 or 13 as a double digit favorite in the accident.
Smitty
You know, has a better higher winning percentage. Manny Diaz.
Steve Kim
Yes, he does. Now here's the thing. For every ACC team again, when Miami comes to town with Mario Crystal Ball as the coach right now, please bring extra security if you want to protect your field because it might get rushed. But, but I'm, I'm just being honest. Mario, you're my coach. I support you. But I got to be honest about. This is tough love. No one else will tell you this because we want to be physical. You know what? I want to be productive. Think about this again.
JB
You cooking right now.
Steve Kim
Play the 85 Bears. We did not play the 2000 Ravens. 37 minutes, 42 seconds of ball control for 20 points and then coach, with about 40 seconds to go, we have one timeout tie game, he takes a knee. I'm like. And right then, we all grown like, oh, we know where this is going. Mario Crystal Ball is more conservative than Rush Limbaugh, and I think it's an absolute anchor to this program. Okay, moving on. Colorado. Damn, Colorado. Wow.
JB
Damn.
Steve Kim
Rocky Mountain Low. Coach Smitty, be honest. They quit on Coach Prime. Come on, fess up, Smitty.
JB
It didn't look good, Steve. It didn't look good.
Smitty
I look exactly how I said it would look. I don't know what, I don't know what the confusion is. He got Rich Lewis. What is he, 7 and 1?
JB
He's still talking about Lewis, Homie.
Smitty
Damn.
Steve Kim
Yeah, it matters, jb, is Coach prime there in Colorado next season?
Dr. Jesse Morris
No.
Steve Kim
You don't think so, huh?
Smitty
I, I would be shocked. I, I hope he is. I want to see him own it and face it and say, I'm, I'm here. But I don't see it. Like, I, I kind of agree with Sean King when I, when he saw his kids and he's had him his whole life and he's been around them and that's all he's really coached. I, I, I think he, I, I think he'd rather go watch those guys and live as. I don't know. I, I don't know. I, I don't know. I don't care either. But it's a, you do care, though. When we, when we talk for clicks and likes, when we talk about it for more than the actual job he's doing on the football field and we talk about everything else, that's when it becomes, I don't, it's irrelevant to me.
Steve Kim
I want to give Colorado a little.
Smitty
Bit of credit, though.
Steve Kim
In the first six games.
JB
Thank you.
Steve Kim
They played Georgia Tech to a one possession game. And I, I thought they could have won it against byu, who might make the playoffs. They were in that game. In fact, I think they were winning that game. 14 nothing. They beat a solid or tough Iowa State team. So I, I'm actually stunned by how quickly it's fallen apart. And jb, I was kind of watching other games. I was in the hotel room. I was in the, you know, I was kind of in a buzz kill. And when you, when you texted me and Wettle like, hey, what's going on with Colorado? I said, you said 59 or 52, four. I was like, what?
Smitty
No, I told, I told Bailey, do a wellness check on that.
Steve Kim
Well, he made it, though. I saw him yesterday. I'll give McChesney credit on this end. Always. He has more intensity than most of the players. He's absolutely disgusting. Here's what's interesting. A lot of the Colorado podcasts are now coming over to McChesney side, and there was actually guys saying we should fire Coach prime, where 12 months ago, they're saying Prime's maybe one of the best coaches in all the country. These things turn very, very quickly.
Smitty
They're betters. They're betting fans. See, like, that's the problem I have. Like, I'm always going to defend Dion and the coaching side of these things over these nobodies. That's the one thing I'll never go against betting.
Steve Kim
These guys just, they love Colorado. They're Buffalo.
Smitty
But they don't. I don't believe they do because where have they been? Like, they. It's like all these prime sexuals. They don't know what the Boulder entails.
Steve Kim
Sexuals, though. These guys have done podcasts for years, though.
Smitty
Yeah. I don't know.
Steve Kim
Some of them have lived there. They could actually point out where Boulder is on a map. Now, finally to this one, I say four, because you freeze. Now, he could play 36 holes of golf six days a week.
JB
He happy as hell.
Steve Kim
He can get down to a two handicap. He got all the time in the row. Guys, out of morbid curiosity.
JB
Yeah.
Steve Kim
I watched the Auburn game now.
Smitty
You did last night.
Steve Kim
So I thought the game was at Kentucky. And I was like, wow, that crowd must have been tough.
Smitty
They only scored.
Steve Kim
I didn't. I had no idea until that game was on my screen. I said, wait a minute. They scored three points at home and they used Ashton Daniels, the Stanford transfer coach. I've never seen a more simplistic offense in my life. It makes what crystal ball runs air, Coriel. It's bad. And I think the situation is going to happen here. Auburn still has a good defense. They have NFL prospects like Falk and number 17. That. That one linebacker they have is active. That's an all American level guy. Number 17. Name escapes me.
Smitty
Me.
Steve Kim
But if you're Cam Coleman, who is the number two rated high school receiver behind Jeremiah Smith, There has to be a hundred teams right now willing or waiting to tamper because that guy could be a number one receiver on a lot of teams and be a first round draft choice. He's being absolutely wasted outside. And Hugh Freeze just never worked out. Now, coach, what does it say about Auburn that they're going to have their third coach in the 2000 and 20s and we're only in the 2025.
Smitty
You got Alabama in that state. That's the reason that job is no longer what it used to be. At least it was competitive to play Alabama with the Cam Newtons and all those guys that. The legends that they've had that now it's no longer that. And I don't know how attractive that job is because of the fact that Alabama shares the state with.
Steve Kim
You still pay well though. And by the way, I think they're number 17, I think his name is Xavier, Xavier Atkins. Absolute tackling machine. Very impressed by him, everybody.
Smitty
I got a good friend of mine who's an OG alum there at Auburn, was a legend there in the, in the early 90s. He said that all things are coming out as a ad's fired next and Bruce Pearl is being pushed to be the AD number one. Number two is Jimbo Fisher is the guy they want now.
Steve Kim
How do you think that'll be received, Jimbo? He's. He has SEC roots, national title offensive guy.
Smitty
Often they want office.
Steve Kim
Well, coach, let me just say something though. The way he ran offense, a lot of A M fans will tell you it got a little antiquated. It did not think he.
Smitty
That's why remember he hired. He had to hire Bobby P. And then he went to all that and it was a conflict. Remember I said on the show, I said, there's a conflict. You can't have two offensive guys or alphas trying to call offense. It just doesn't work.
Steve Kim
So coach Freeze had an interesting dilemma. The quarterback that had the most promise was Deuce Knight, who's a true freshman. And, and maybe Hugh Freeze thought, okay, I'm gonna save him, develop him for next year. Turns out he never got a next job. I'm just wondering if Hugh Freeze had a hot tub time machine eight weeks ago, would have just said, all right, Deuce, because now you could say Smitty, yeah, we're bad. But it's a freshman quarterback we're developing here.
Smitty
I'm almost with Smitty at this point, Steve, because the old whites are, are cooked in this profession right now for some reason. Dabo showing it this year. Just look at all these guys, like from Belichick to even Carol in the NFL. I don't know if you got to go get younger at these big time programs like the Kenny Dillinghams, like those type of guys. And then if you get in between that my age guy before 50 or 50, you went out like Sark and these Other guys. So now they want to get back to the league. It's a very, very strange situation to college football right now.
Steve Kim
In my view.
Dr. Jesse Morris
You.
Steve Kim
You have to. No matter what your age, you have to be willing to embrace Nil in the portal.
Smitty
No doubt pretend that you do, and.
Steve Kim
Then be in that pool.
Smitty
Or. Or just Hugh Freeze didn't even pretend it.
Steve Kim
Look, it turns out he was doing Nil and other stuff way back at Ole miss.
Smitty
Okay?
Steve Kim
That 2015 class that was number one in the country. I've heard some legendary stories about how that class came together. Trust me, those guys were not complaining about starving over the weekend during the off season. That because. All right, so. But I do think that you need a young, energetic guy that understands the landscape. At least until they put some guardrails in on transfer portal Nil. The length of contract. So now this is professional sports. So it is what it is. Oh, by the way, coach, I want to say something.
JB
Say it.
Steve Kim
Sunday night, I'm watching a game, kind of rewinding, you know, have a. Have a nice cold Zima on ice with the watermelon Jolly Ranchers. And it was good. And I'm watching Seattle High Riders. I was really impressed. Impressed by their quarterback.
Smitty
Who's that guy?
Steve Kim
This guy by the name of Sam Darnold. Everybody. But I knew a guy that said, no, no, he can still play.
JB
Huh?
Steve Kim
I knew a guy, but I knew.
Smitty
I know this guy.
JB
Steve, you gotta stop boosting up J's ego. Yeah, but you. But you. You boost his ego, his ego's already too big. He already. He already thinks he's these the top. And you come on here, Steve, and.
Smitty
You just feed into it.
JB
You feed into it. You feed into it. And here it is.
Steve Kim
I mean, what you don't believe in. Wait a minute. I thought all you kids say we got to give him his ftds. Well, here's his ftds, right?
Smitty
I hear you. Thank you. I want my flowers. Yeah, I want my flower. I want Danny Dime, Sam Darnold. I want all my flowers from some of these guys I've been telling you guys about. I. I don't run around. It doesn't sustain in the NFL. Jada Daniels done for the year. Lamar Hurt a joke.
Steve Kim
Seattle's impressive, though. Now.
JB
They are.
Smitty
Yeah. Rams gonna cook them. Rams gonna cook Bailey's team. But here's the issue.
Steve Kim
My advice to Sam Darnold, you want to go places, throw more to Elijah o'. Royal. That's all I got to say.
Smitty
How bad is the jets organization?
Steve Kim
Isn't that a rhetorical question?
Smitty
I mean. I mean, look at the guys that have left there. And now look at them just, you know, a year remove for Aaron Rogers, a couple years remove for Sam Darnold. Like, Mark Sanchez is now, you know, gang banging. Like it's a.
Steve Kim
It's a.
Smitty
It's a. It's. It's unbelievable. Isn't it unbelievable? Like, it's unbelievable. I'm not Orange County. Essay from the Mississippi.
JB
Mother said. I just want to go see my family.
Smitty
The wrong sling, though. Wrong arm, though.
JB
Right, right, right, right.
Smitty
I gotta go see Phil training, man. I gotta go see what's going on with this. With this act.
JB
He said in all the pictures I heard in the spot.
Smitty
No, he did not. No, I'm laying around still up there. Hey, take away the history.
Steve Kim
Pono was a line cook there, right? And so, yeah, those posters will never come down. Trust me.
Smitty
My high school legendary spot, man.
JB
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Steve Kim
I cannot wait for Whitlock to interview McChesney. I'm glad we brought this together.
JB
Look, you excited. Look at you.
Smitty
Hey, guys. He got mad on the thumbnail.
Steve Kim
I. I mean, this is like. This is like when the West Coast All Stars tried to stop the gang wars. Hey, we're all in the same gang. You don't remember that song? Oh, Smith, you weren't even born then.
Smitty
Hey, we don't know about that song. That was one of the hardest tracks today about me. Not all in the Same Game. Easy went off on that. That song came out.
Steve Kim
Here's what happened, Smitty. Back when rap was not demonic.
Smitty
Yo, yo.
Steve Kim
It was actually a force of positive for. A force of positive for people in America and the culture. And it was actually like, in the last game the east coast made, it was called Self Destruction. You're headed for self destruction. So then the west coast, guess what they did. Instead of starting a war, they said, no, no, hold on. We're gonna do the West Coast All Stars. Yeah, It's a song called we're all in the Same Game. Yeah, well, they all kind of came together, and it was kind of a good thing.
Smitty
Hey, Dre produced it. Smitty Tone, Loke, Michelle Le, King T, Iced Tea Ren, everybody, JJ Fad Young, Digital Underground.
JB
I'm not gonna lie to you.
Steve Kim
I kind of like the east coast song better. Self destruction.
Smitty
Oh, no.
Steve Kim
What? Come on.
Smitty
Never. You can't beat a Dre. You can't beat a Drake.
Steve Kim
Self Destruction and Heavy D. Come on.
Smitty
You can't fight a J track.
Steve Kim
I don't Want to start a war or anything?
JB
East coast did invent hip hop though, so I respect it.
Smitty
Hey Steve, real quick. Lincoln riding SC did not look good. Nebraska's shitty. I don't think they're very good at all. My homes. Is Cook. He's done. I mean Riola. He's done. And then. So where you at with this whole Rule gets an extension. They wanted to keep them from other schools apparently. Where are you at when Nebraska's gross.
Steve Kim
He needed that win. I mean you're right. These are the games that Matt Rule has not won. And I like Matt Rule. I think he never should have left Baylor. I think he set back his own career while making a lot of money, albeit. But you needed this win. Here's the problem. As flawed as Raiola is, there's a reason why that other guy is the backup. Any way back up in terms of overall talent that this thing can spiral. Now for sc, I get it. They didn't look great. But they are headed towards still having a double digit win. And they have the number one class incoming.
JB
Thank you.
Steve Kim
That look at certain times it's not about the style points you need to get out of Nebraska and Lincoln. With the win. They got the job done.
JB
Win is the win, baby.
Steve Kim
Right on. Anyway guys, I gotta watch this interview because I'm gonna be commenting on it and. And Smitty, give coach the hookup with the sticks.
Smitty
I got you. All right, Steve. Enjoy Thursday. Thanks.
JB
Clap it over, Steven Kim, man.
Smitty
Always. Always. Smitty, real quick. So you know because you asked yesterday. So I want to let you know.
JB
Yeah.
Smitty
That the Dodgers on the NBA playoffs and the ratings. Yeah. And I mean. Yeah. I'm just telling you.
JB
Did you see the super bowl numbers though?
Smitty
Nah.
JB
Said like 150 million every year.
Smitty
Most watched one day event in the history. Every year.
JB
And that feels phenomenal, homie.
Dr. Jesse Morris
Yeah.
Smitty
It'll always be.
JB
Only thing that competes with the NFL I think is the world like the World Cup.
Smitty
But that's not really. Yeah, but it's like huge. But that's not a one day event.
JB
Right, right, right, right.
Smitty
I said one day event.
JB
I don't know. The World cup like the main like championship. Like you're not close.
Smitty
Not close.
JB
I don't. Look, I'm telling you.
Smitty
Not the main event.
JB
Do we got any soccer fans in the chat?
Dr. Jesse Morris
The world.
Smitty
Soccer is world. No. Is the most watched sport overall. It's not the most watch the single day event. The super bowl is a goddamn holiday, homie. It needs to be a holiday.
JB
Why don't we get that Monday off? If Trump is who you say he is, why don't he give us Monday off?
Smitty
Because y' all think he's racist. Yeah, y' all think he's racist, homie. Because y'. All. Y' all wanted. You want. You want him to get. Y' all want him to get Puff Daddy off and Kodak Black. Save the homies. Hey, get all the homies off. But then when it comes down to brass tacks, y' all don't defend them, homie. Call him racist.
JB
Trump talking about you talk.
Smitty
You got. You gotta keep it real. Keep it real, homie.
JB
Is he.
Smitty
Is he racist or is he. Do you want him as. You want his help or is he racist?
JB
You had the campaign.
Smitty
Which one is it, homie?
JB
You had the Trump shirt.
Smitty
You had the JB in trouble.
JB
Cool. He's here. He won. Kudos to you, jb. You're the reason why he won. Let's see the. Let's see. You're the reason he won. Kudos to you. He's in the office. He's our president.
Smitty
He just made a bunker, too. Made a bunker.
JB
He changed.
Smitty
Now.
JB
Let's see.
Smitty
He made a bunker, homie. For the. The thing coming in, I want Monday office.
JB
Trump. If you watch.
Smitty
We've been wanting it.
JB
We want the Monday off after the Super Bowl. Make it happen.
Smitty
We've been watching. We've been asking. We asked Obama, though, But Obama was Obama. Hey, but Obama made the cold basketball brackets y' all was hyped on, but he didn't do for y' all about Trump right now.
JB
Why you keep bringing. This is how he deflects. I bring up one thing. Chat. Jamie brings up 20 other things, but.
Smitty
You never bring it up. That's the thing. You never bring it up. Right now, we're not gonna be both things.
JB
Biden had his run. Obama had his two runs. Bush had his run. Couldn't have his run. We talking about Donald Trump. You said no. Talk about how big and bad he was. Give me the Monday off of that.
Smitty
Let me. Let me bring. Let me break this down. Let me break this down for you.
JB
Why you go on your nails like that? It looks soft as hell. So I'm chewing on you. Are you nervous?
Smitty
I got something. I got something on my.
JB
Are you nervous?
Smitty
Let me break this. Let me break this down. Let me break this down for you real quick. Let me break this down for you.
JB
Hold on.
Smitty
Let me break this down for you. Something so in the world that I've lived in My whole life, my daddy probably, probably got put in his grave because of the grind. And especially when you're a blue collar mechanic, when you're a steel mill worker, coal mine worker, you do an everyday real American job. And you, and, and that's what you do. And it's a unbelievable you. All you want to come home to do is sleep. But then you got divorces and the girl's never happy.
Dr. Jesse Morris
Right.
Smitty
So like badass kids.
JB
I get it.
Dr. Jesse Morris
Yeah.
Smitty
And so at the end of the.
Steve Kim
Day.
Smitty
We have been programmed to work, work, work, work, work. Pay these taxes for these rich folks to keep us regular folks in check, but yet don't improve. Shit around us makes it actually makes it worse. Our food's now plastic, our water is getting hit with cloud seeding. We got everything's.
JB
Now you.
Smitty
Now you have went from 33 year old, 33 years was the per capita. Was the average age to buy a home.
JB
Yep.
Smitty
Now it's 55 years old.
JB
Yep.
Smitty
Can't afford. And California is not for the week. So if you live in California and you can survive, you're a gangster. Thank you, number one. Well, I, I help you. And then, and then from that point on, you got to keep working, working, working, working. You can't live with your family, can't go out, you can't go vacation, you can't chill, you can't go to Hawaii, you can't go to do nothing. Can't go to Dubai, you can't go to Newport beach. Can't get a boat slip, can't get your boat out of the shop. It's 41, 000. Like everything jet ski broke. You can't fix that. They won't fix it. Yamaha comes from Japan. Ohtani and them kept my parts over there. So then I didn't get the parts for the Yamaha Jet Ski. Then egg handed. I watched the Dodges bet on, trick my bets off. And then Otani said, oh, I ain't gonna hit a home run. Then the day I don't pick him, he hits three home runs, 10 strikeouts. My parlay. So like everything's just. Homie, it just. Yes.
JB
Darnell, is this personal or you're just using random examples?
Smitty
Huh?
JB
Was that personal or were you using random examples right there?
Smitty
I don't know what I said. I don't know anything I said, okay.
JB
I just want to make sure. But anyway, you cooked right there though. I'm with you, homie. It's like we're trying to just work, go home, eat, sleep, work, go home, eat Sleep, work, and it's a cycle. And then you die. And you look back. I ain't do. I ain't gonna see nothing.
Smitty
Can't do nothing.
JB
Yeah, but that's why I break the cycle. I say that's like.
Smitty
That's like me. And the kinds like the people that defend Mina Kimes. What's wrong? The people that defend me to Kimes over the people that defend me for calling her out when she basically char, you know, accused three of my kids for criminal activity. You choose to defend her over the fact that she lied on my name and three black players of mine. That is what's wrong with America, homie.
Dr. Jesse Morris
You.
JB
Person who wrote the main article on that, I gotta do some research now because you, you go in so hard. She wasn't even big time at that point in her life. Was she somebody who just agreed with the main article and you didn't like it? Was she the one who wrote the main storyline that broke? I'm just curious about. Because now, now we got. Because you, you just. At some point, I'm not saying forgive, but it's like the rest of your life, you just gonna sit here and point to that as your reasoning, as your ammo. Are you listening to me, jb? As your ammo to continue to take shots at her. To continue to.
Smitty
Are you still talking? I'm making coffee. I'm on break. Are you still talking?
JB
Can you hear me? I just don't understand, like, real quick, like, at some point. Point you gotta, like, move on. At some point.
Smitty
I'm on break. I'm getting coffee.
JB
Huh?
Smitty
I'm on break. I've been on break for three minutes. I didn't know you were still here.
JB
You didn't hear nothing I was saying? No. We'll be back in three. There's a video going around Oklahoma State head coach Mike Gundy, who had to move his press conference to a zoom after getting headbutted by his cow.
Smitty
To a zoo.
JB
To a Zoom. Well, check this out.
Smitty
A little run in with my cattle over the weekend, and I guess they've been watching us play and got headbutted. So I've got a. I've got a bad eye that I didn't think would be particularly enjoyable for people when they were looking at my pretty face in a live interview. But more importantly, it's. It's full of blood and I get dizzy and it. So it's not easy to be upright and be in a normal function. But other than that, I'm doing great.
JB
Other than that, I'M doing great. I'm gonna start with JB first and then T. Rich, I want you to get a little chance to kind of, you know, get your thoughts all together. I see. I see you're calculating right now. JB what's going on with Mike Gunn? It seems like it's always just something with him, his program. It's something weird. He got head butted by his cattle. By his cow.
Dr. Jesse Morris
Move.
JB
What's your take on that? What's going on, JB I think he.
Smitty
Got his ass whooped at a bar. I don't believe anything he says. He's an absolute idiot. I kicked him out of my office several times for a reason. He's a bird. And his son. His son is shitty. I don't know why he gave him a scholarship. I. I saw him play in Oklahoma. I didn't even offer him to juco. And then he brought him to Oklahoma State, and he actually started some games. He's now at some FCS school. The guy's a joke. I'm gonna be honest. I'm 40 and. No, you are. You're 60 now, and you're still shitty. And I think he got his ass whipped at a bar. I'm gonna be honest. You know, show your face. Because we'll know if a horse hits you where the horse hit you with his. Hit him in his eye. I want to see your eye. I don't believe you got hit by no horse. Because he. Rich. It'd be hard to hit me with a horse in my eye. I want to see. Where did the horse hit him? What kind of horse. And if it was a cow. What kind of cow hit him?
Dr. Jesse Morris
Did he.
Smitty
Did a cow kick him?
Steve Kim
Tbr.
Smitty
Did it count? Did the cow. Did the kid. Did the cow. Absolutely. Get his foot up to a six foot body and hit that right in there, right?
JB
Because, like, it's not. It's not a donkey. A donkey might do that or a horse. He said you might be talking to.
Smitty
Your players and get them to believe that, like, you got them to recruit and get there to still water because you're shitty. So you must have stolen. Sold them a hell of a car to get them to come to Stillwater. But you ain't selling me that a horse and a cow hit your ass. I want to see your face. I think you got your ass whooped at a bar.
JB
Well, who is the cow?
Smitty
Who is the cow?
Dr. Jesse Morris
I.
JB
Me personally and I calling nobody out. I think he might got. I.
Smitty
What?
JB
I think he might got. I. Remember that. You Remember when Tina. And it's not. And, you know, hey, y', all, I'm just spectating.
Dr. Jesse Morris
Looking at.
JB
You know, I ain't. You know, I don't want guys to be. Oh, he, you know, beating his. No, I don't want to say that, because obviously he getting beat up, right?
Smitty
Have we seen. Have we seen his face? Anyone got a picture of him out there?
JB
There you go, right there. That's.
Smitty
That's.
JB
That's all we gonna get. I mean, we've seen Nick Saban, you know, get beat up in the game, and he came out and said, you should have seen the other guy.
Smitty
You know what I'm saying?
JB
He showed his face. He showed his face, though, like a G. Yeah, he showed. He told you right off the bat, hey, they don't make him.
Smitty
You saw me on Netflix wear a pink jersey and run.
JB
You did that.
Smitty
You know, I gotta build it.
JB
We back. We back. Final hour. Why you keep chewing your nails like. Are you nervous? Today's show make you nervous?
Smitty
I got something. I don't know what's going on. It's like a. One of those. What do they call? Hangnail.
JB
Ah, you sound.
Smitty
Yeah, I don't know what that is.
JB
Anyway, we back our final hour, man. And without further ado. That's what you get. You and your age. I know you. That's what you get. We've seen videos on this show of you getting your toes done.
Steve Kim
Facts.
JB
Quiet as cat, man.
Smitty
That was just for clicks and likes. But go ahead.
JB
Without further ado, man, my brother, I'm another mother, man. Naptown legend, defensive tackle savant. It's time for in the trenches with my guy Sheldon Day. Bring him on right now as day. What's going on? What's up, y'?
Smitty
All?
JB
Happy election day. Happy election day.
Smitty
What election?
JB
You know, the local. The state and local elections are today. Jeffrey, You've owned it, JB.
Smitty
I don't vote.
JB
Hey, J.P. tell me why you don't vote, man. Let me hear this. I got. I know it got to be a good reason.
Smitty
Because rigged. And the bottom line is, until you come back and say, God damn, jb, you had one. We lost by one vote. And then. Then I'll vote. Until then, I'm not voting. Because, you know, at the end of the day, it's never been one vote. Everybody thought that way, JB down to 1 vote.
JB
But think about what you're saying. It sounds so idiotic.
Smitty
I get it.
JB
If. If 10,000.
Smitty
Damn near macro. Damn near macro.
JB
But if 10,000 people got your same mindset then.
Smitty
Don't, don't. Don't put it on me. Don't put 10,000 people on me. I said me, homie. I said me.
JB
You influenced the masses.
Smitty
I never said that. I never said nothing before in my life.
JB
Yeah, 20, 000 people watching our thousand. Sheldon here watching our show. So you got influence.
Smitty
Sheldon, in my whole life, I never voted. I never told nobody I voted. So no one in those 40 years knew that I didn't vote. And guess what? We still never won by one vote.
JB
Now what?
Smitty
Still everyone by one vote. And nobody knew I didn't vote. So guess what? Make me a sandwich. So anyway, Sheldon, can I ask you a serious question?
JB
Let's do it. Let's do it.
Smitty
How dumb is John Morant?
JB
He said John Moran. I don't. I don't think he's dumb. I don't think he's dumb.
Smitty
So he's smart.
JB
I mean, if you're not dumb, does that mean you're smart?
Smitty
Damn near what you're saying though. Almost damn near I'm saying. So you're either not. You're either smart or you're dumb. Which one are you smart then?
JB
I, I. Yeah, I just, I like, I don't. I don't believe there's. This is a black and white.
Smitty
Like just because I'm white and you're black. So there's black and white.
JB
But are there mixed people in the world, Bailey?
Smitty
Yeah, they got white. They mostly got white. Most mixed people have the white mom on the white mom side.
JB
So.
Smitty
So I don't. I don't white moms. So at the end of the day, I don't like the birac.
JB
That's a real thing on our show. He don't like white moms.
Smitty
I don't know my daughter mix. But the daddy white say it's a difference.
JB
Difference.
Smitty
Okay. Yeah. I mean, her mama. Her mama's ain't. But I'm just saying, like the, the. It's.
JB
I got this look good as hell, though.
Smitty
Oh, yeah. She looked like beyond a good. I mean, it was unbelievable that that's the only reason. Like, I wish I pulled out. But anyway, that's a whole nother story. What I'm saying is, at the end of the day, homie, do we. Does the one vote matter or not? And then two, number two, John Rat gotta be the dumbest I've ever seen in my life. And I. I got a homie in South Carolina who kind of raised his ass and he's like, jb, this motherfucker's like, Carlton, he from the burbs. Like, why is he doing it? I don't know why he off his life. I. I don't know why he's off his life. He should have the keys, Sheldon, to this whole on a cover 2 bit, 2k. He should be on the COVID of whatever, you know, NBA Jam, whatever. They still play all that. He should be on all that, but he not. And. And his whole shit's over now. It's he his whole off and. And if I was his daddy, I'd put down that red solo cup on the side and I. I'd carry a red belt. And anytime that does something, I'll beat the out of his tongue.
JB
He not yet 30 year old son.
Smitty
Yeah, he's not daddy. He's not 30, by the way, at all. Not even close. And. And number one, number two, he his homie instead of his daddy. And that's what happened to this kid. Homie. He was his homie. And it the kid off. And now the kid from being the face is now the ass of the league.
JB
Did you give any context, though, to like you? I love that. Beautiful. You said all that.
Smitty
But you know, I didn't, I didn't. I didn't tell you what's going on at all.
JB
Nobody has no idea what you're talking about. They have no idea why you're going at job.
Smitty
Yeah. Because nobody knows what I do and what I say. I don't know what I say. All I know is I want to ask Sheldon and just get his take on John Moran. John Ran came to my mind. I just want to ask you about Sean Moran, like, just in general because he got suspended.
JB
Did he? For one game. One game. No.
Dr. Jesse Morris
Yeah.
Smitty
I love how y' all defend them, though. I love it because, like, it's just one game. And then last year it's just a season.
JB
Yeah.
Smitty
You report that he gets pulled out, you pull out a strap on another IG live. He only had a strap twice. He only got suspended for half a year. And then he got pro next. Hey. When he pulls out another strap and then it just. It's just a rap video. Like, I love how y' all defend them.
JB
Grew up in. We've been around a lot of John Morant.
Dr. Jesse Morris
Yeah.
JB
And we understand that there's context to them becoming who they. Who they became. And we understand that it's not a period at the end of John Morant life. It's a comma, it continues.
Smitty
Which means I'm from Compton Homie, I didn't know if you realize where I'm from. I didn't grow up with you. Yeah, exactly. You know what the difference is? You know the difference is.
JB
But you changed your life.
Smitty
You know what difference is? You know what the difference is? The real fact I grew up with the real cats. And guess what we didn't do? What? We didn't put it out on this NBA. We didn't go on Oprah Winfrey show, homie. To bang, Blood and Crip, homie.
JB
Stop. You're 50.
Dr. Jesse Morris
Stop.
JB
You didn't have that.
Smitty
Yeah, we did have it. We had Oprah Winfrey, homie, and then Terry Donahue show, homie.
JB
None of y' all thugs invited to Oprah show, homie.
Smitty
Yeah, we were. I mean, we turned it down. We turned it down. We turned it down. We turned it down. We didn't want to let you know. You know what we. Hey, shout. We had 4.0. We covered it up. We didn't let the feds know we was gangster. That's the difference. I'm a gangster. Then he gets smoked.
JB
You wasn't a real Rick Ross, homie. You know Rick Ross, but you wasn't him. He protected you, homie. You in the street doing the corner, selling weed. You ain't making no.
Smitty
I never saw weed. Never saw weed. Never saw weed in my life.
JB
Go ahead, Sean.
Dr. Jesse Morris
I'm sorry.
Smitty
So now you're making up for the audio listeners. Tell everybody you're messing around.
JB
I'm messing around. But JB's claims he was a street cat and did all this. Stop saying we, homie. You chose sports.
Smitty
See, that's the difference. The difference is I never claimed to be a gangster, as you just said. See, that's the difference.
JB
They already knew yesterday.
Smitty
Everybody already knew I was. There's a big difference. But anyway, Sheldon, moving on amicably, as I dropped the mic on Smitty once again Today, for the 17th time, I just want to be clear. So John Moran's a bird, then we've cleared that up or.
JB
No, no, he's not. He's not. I just feel like he's a great dude.
Smitty
I'm saying he said it's in. Great dude. Unbelievable player. Continue to be the face of the NBA. That's what you're saying?
JB
He's on that trajectory? Yes. He can continue to change his life.
Smitty
He's on a trajectory to be what?
JB
Better than he was last year?
Smitty
Better person. Got it. Well, maybe we can take him to get rehab or something. Maybe mental health or something. Like that. We'll see what happens. And as he continues to go, I think he's a bus. I think he'll never be heard of again. Really. Like that. Like. Like that's what I've seen because I think he'll. He'll ruin his career for himself and his daddy. But that's me. Smitty, let's dive into some football, man.
JB
Yeah, man, let's. Let's start it, man. We got. We got to start with your commander Shell. I know, I know, I know. We gotta start there, though. I know it was a tough loss. Walk me through just kind of what, what went down from your perspective. Yeah, so it seemed like in the blink of eye we was down 21 0. Then I think we was 28. And then we 28 7. And then we was just in the dog fight from, from the beginning. It's crazy. I think our first drive, we were kind of driving down and then I think we had like a false start or something that kind of messed up our offense. Then we went on defense. They went on a 16 play drive. Can't do that off of it. You gotta set the tone. So first 15 for them was really, really good. They were showing us different looks and stuff like that. Got out there. Norm broke a lot of tendencies and then it just kind of got ugly from there. So just bad ball, bad day at the office. Let me ask you this. How. How good is Sam Darnold? You know, we were just talking about him earlier. This is one. Probably one of JB's best, I guess he takes, you'll call it, since he started this show, like saying how good something Donald was and how he just was a part of bad organizations with the jets and the Panthers and, you know, he finally got his groove with the 49ers. I think he started a couple games there and then now we've seen him last year. This year he's like rolling just from your being on the defensive side and going against. Like, how, how good? Like, has he really, like, changed his career around? I would say yes. You can see, like his mechanics are still there, but now he has the process. He knows where to go. Oh, re 1 is the off read 2 is off. Let me go check down. So now he's not taking the big sacks. He's dinking and dunking it when he has to. He has the big play. And then his officer coordinator is obviously dialing it up too and exposing defenses.
Smitty
Jb, Marty told you he's good, so it's different. What?
JB
She only played against him. So it's a little different.
Smitty
Some of you need to start listening to me like I, I should. I mean, I'm an NFL level coach. Some of you mother just need to just, just move aside and just say, all right, but you let me the.
JB
Comms expose you last week though.
Smitty
She didn't expose me.
JB
Let me hear about this, jp. Let me hear from your vantage point because I, I got a little bits and pieces, but I want to hear what happened.
Smitty
There's no vanish point. Apparently I got cooked on Twitter because she put out that I had eight felonies and that's what it cooked me when we talked about quarters. But anyway, they said she put you.
JB
On the quarter's coverage, homie. Marcellus tweet out. He said, he said JB was right, but Mina Khan wasn't wrong. And that's your, that's your brother.
Smitty
Let's be real, like the real players, like the real NFL guys that, you know, been on that come on our show and guys personally who are men, they know the real.
JB
And then why you added so many like.
Smitty
Well, I'm just saying because like the ones that defend her are gays. I mean, let's just be honest. That's what you are. So like, it's not really. It blows my mind that you really sit here and think that this lady who never played knows football over us. That's the crazy part about it all. And you want to dress that room.
JB
Who I guess you later talked to, his initial tweet was going against you.
Smitty
No, it wasn't initial tweet. You must not be very smart. No, it wasn't. Yes, it was, homie. No, it wasn't. Did you read it?
JB
Yes.
Smitty
Oh, my God. Then you don't understand football either.
JB
You gotta bring it in here, man.
Smitty
Holy homie. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Shout it. I don't think cats realize when you're getting laughed at versus being laughed with. I don't think they realize that because that I think people that know football, like TJ Ward and Asante's Hammer, like, you don't throw into the. You don't throw in holes into quarters coverage. There is no hole in quarters coverage. Number one, you don't throw deep ball versus zone. That's exactly what she said verbatim. And I'm the one wrong though, when I say, hey, let's just take advantage of quarters and let's throw to the flat, which is the weakness. And I'm the one wrong.
JB
First of all, Sonic, Sam said very simple, coach. Send the Outside receiver on the post route, as you mentioned. The same right there. I'm just reading it. Jb, let me read it. That's a lot of room to work with in the middle of the field. The reason why he tweeted this, if you.
Smitty
Why are you. Why are you reading false, though?
JB
You listen to the rant that JB had during his video. And the problem with JB and I always try to tell him this is when you talk, you gotta, you gotta think about what you're saying. Because when he goes off, he just said. And one of his lines within his rant was, you can't. You, you can't be quarters deep. Like he said some like that. So that's why people, people are taking that line. They're like, well, you actually can. And it's very simple. And Jamie knows this. He broke down how you could be.
Smitty
Any coverage Sheldon deep. You could throw any coverage deep if the corner falls.
JB
But you said it came out your mouth like we could pull your rant up. You said it. So the same way you're nitpicking Mina Kime's little. Each little line, we can do the same thing to you. So all I'm saying is take ownership, take responsibility. And what you said, the way you're.
Smitty
Doing Tamina Micro people don't understand because he was on the show with me doing the show. And, and like I never one time drew up a play, not one time. Still haven't. I can draw 65 quarters beaters conceptually if I got on the board. And when I didn't, I haven't still have yet to write a play up because it wasn't about a play. So asante right there basically said, jb, just take a post with it. We're not talking concept. I can write up a thousand plays. I said, the weakness of the defense is throwing number three to the flat. That's the weakness. Because guess what? You know that this is the irony of it also. So all these guys that defended me to come out and say, well, I agree that you can throw hitches on quarters. Two seconds later, what the is three to the flat? Is that not the same goddamn area as a hitch ball like Sheldon, I'm so confused, homie. So now hitches work, but not three to the flat in the same area as a hit like the, the. I, I just got tired of dealing with the dumb retardedness, so I just moved on.
JB
He personally likes to go deep against quarters.
Smitty
True quarters, remember? Yeah, there's a thousands, there's a thousand. Four shells that DQ runs. Hey, DQ runs palms. He runs match. He wants palms bracket. He runs cover two, man. He runs quarters, quarters, match, which is cover zero. Then he runs true quarters where his safety is a stiff and B, gap in the run fit. And then he bells the corner's ass to the sideline to give away hits, but not deep. And then he runs press man quarters and bells out at the snap, give quarterback false read. There's a thousand quarters coverages that you can run, homie, but Mina just making blank statement. Oh, just get quarters coverage so deep.
JB
Can you just admit that your hatred for her led to you spazzing out to the level in which you spaz? You admit that?
Smitty
No, because you got. Just because you don't understand. That's a you problem, not mine.
Dr. Jesse Morris
I'm not.
Smitty
Don't be mad at me shouting I'm smarter than all you.
JB
Do you hate her?
Smitty
Huh?
Steve Kim
Do you hate her?
Smitty
Well, she did a, black. She did a.
Dr. Jesse Morris
She made.
Smitty
She made false allegations on three of my black players and she called them rapists. And that's why the beef stems from so. Yeah, so. Yeah, so. So Smitty. Smitty will defend her over quarters over my three black kids that got falsely accused by Mina, though. That's the crazy part, Sheldon. So you gotta holler at your boy later when you go back to Naptown. Holler your boy say, hey, homie, come on now. Got accused by Mina and you're defending quarters and Mina over three accusations falsely. Come on, you guys. Go to St. Elmo's and shrimp holla at your boy.
JB
I haven't read the article. Jimmy's never sent it to me.
Smitty
You don't need to read the article.
JB
He said number one. But number two, I never told him to be friends with her, Sheldon. I never told him to even forgive her. But what I'm saying is he purposely and like goes out and looks for her takes just to go on her.
Smitty
Hell yeah. Why don't he get what I just.
JB
Said at least twice? Every single act, the chat shelling every week.
Smitty
I don't get what I just said, Sheldon. You do, Sheldon. You clearly understand what I.
JB
What. What I'm saying.
Smitty
Don't start none. Won't be none, Sheldon. That's where we from, the hood, right? So she came out and falsely accused three of my players for years old me. Hey, hey, gave Sheldon. Here's the cold kicker though. Sarah Spain all got together with this broad named Brenda Tracy who I invited to speak to my players. So I'll tell the story One more time. And they. They came out and did a hit piece on me for taking. I was a criminal for taking these three black kids from Minnesota that were falsely accused by a white girl of rape. And obviously, I did the research. I got a daughter. I got a female athletic director. I'm definitely not taking people that touched or hit a woman or raped them. So they did a hit piece on Twitter. And I'm like, really? Brendan, Tracy, I invited you to speak to my boys because you wanted to do it, but then you asked for 10 grand, and then you say, no, I don't want to do it. I'm like, oh, really? That's who you really are? Then Sarah Spain, who with Mina, if you go look up just a simple Google search, has falsely accused Dave Portnoy at barstool, your boy at Outkick. All kind of guys falsely accused them of the same thing, but nobody wants to call that out. And nobody's. And Sheldon, I didn't. I didn't bring up no fake allegations to her that I could have did. But, like, we all know why she's in the industry. Her husband, I mean, he owns damn near half the TV channels. So anyway, that's a whole nother story, but we're not gonna bring that up. Sheldon, how's Jaden's spirits? That's all I care about.
JB
They're hot. They're hot. We was joking in this morning during the lift. I was in there lifting, said, what's up to him. You know, open the door for him. You know, did that for. For my quarterback. No joke. So his spirits are high, I would say.
Smitty
What's he doing in there right now? Just like, he has to see your guys's team guys, or.
JB
I really don't know. He's in there talking in the weight room, so he already.
Smitty
He's already. So here. Is he at like, is there. Is there. Anyway, we had our. We had a doc on to talk about the, like, the injury, so it was nasty to watch. I've had that happen. I've seen it happen. I'm just glad it wasn't a throwing arm. And hopefully, hopefully he's back and healthy. Man, that's just crazy. You had a hero. Some up luck, man. I'm just gonna say it. From Eckler in the beginning of the season to. To Terry and not being able to be out there, people don't realize it's hard to win in the league when you're healthy, a little less when you're not healthy. So keep grinding. It's A tough, long season.
JB
Yeah, no, that's true. That's true. Injury bugs definitely plagued us, so we're just trying to bounce back, find a way. So find a way.
Smitty
No doubt.
JB
Find a way. That's all you can do. Well, the Cowboys, man, switch gears a little bit here. Made some moves this morning. They picked up Bengals linebacker Logan Wilson. You know, Jerry Jones last night, or he was on Stephen a podcast, something like that. Was talking about the potential of him, Cowboys making some moves and making stuff shake. And we've been seeing some different. We've seen the Eagles make a lot of moves in the last couple weeks. I guess my question for you is just kind of educate myself. The chat just on, like, how these trades, like, how they go down in terms of, like, as players. Do you guys usually have, like, no idea that it's gonna happen? Like, you come in there locker room and then boom, it just happens? Or do you typically have, like, a general idea that it might go down? That's a loaded question right there. But I'm getting my. My open, honest opinion about it. So, like, guys are more likely disgruntled during the year. And it's like around the trade blocks, like, okay, I want to be traded. They put their trade request in, the agents start calling other round. Usually teams are like, okay, like, we're open to trading this individual, like, probably like a Logan Wilson or like Trey Hendrickson and stuff like that. And then for the Dolphin situation, and you can go on a complete fire sale. We're about to go on the rebuild, and they want to wipe clean everything and get draft capital. So then they could trade it for first round picks or trade it for a player in the future and stuff like that. So it kind of depends on where the organization is, but, I mean, you can walk in there, like, yesterday we had to live to watch film all that other stuff. And then today you getting a call right now saying, hey, we just traded you. Come, come, turn your iPad in. So it depends on who. Who it is, how much respect they have for that player, or if they're trying to build for the future and they're trying to blow up what they have right now. Damn, that's crazy. Jb. Imagine. Imagine you coming to your job. Like, imagine this show, jb, like, we had a show tomorrow and I told you that I traded you for Sean King. And like, we changed the logo, everything, and you had no idea, no clue. And, like, your whole life just got changed just like that. I don't think we look at these players and look at the NFL and the athletes, like it's a job, like I said, talking to Sheldon all the time. He calls like, hey, I'm at work right now. I think we're so used to just watching from an entertainment standpoint that we don't look at it like this is their everyday lives. You know what I'm saying? So real interesting though, you know, perspective, you know, from there as well. But Logan Wilson, I do think, you know, he at least helps the Cowboys. I know they obviously need some help watching. Watching them, you know, play last night or whatever in the defense. So we'll see how much he can help that team out. Because the offense outside last night has been rolling and been looking good. Just. Just been the defense.
Smitty
That's not true. Not, not true. Last few weeks, they look horrible. The last few weeks are horrible. They're not the. The. The greatest show on turf. I don't know why everyone anointed them that they got Bird picked.
JB
I ain't calling aggression on, sir, but.
Smitty
They'Re not that good. They're really not. Here's the thing, Sheldon. Here's the issue I have. So let me get this straight. You got a white linebacker from the worst defense in the NFL, and that was your hidden trade that was gonna shock the NFL today? Man, Jerry Jones better make me a sandwich. Jerry got you sandwich. He did a hell of a job on Landman. Landman starts back up that he needs to go back to be an actor and finish his life off.
JB
He's the ultimate marketer, homie.
Smitty
I get it, I get it.
JB
He got you again.
Smitty
They're a bad football team. You traded Michael Parsons. He hasn't really helped the packers, in my opinion. But you traded Michael Parsons. You're supposed to go get a bunch of other things.
JB
What's wrong with you? He just be saying stuff, bro. He just be saying, what happened, homie?
Smitty
What, what is he done with the Packers? The Packers? Are the packers, like unbelievable or something? I'm missing.
JB
Hey, then he just went NFC player of the month or something like that.
Smitty
Didn't they just lose to the Panthers?
JB
I mean, he just won NC Player of the month or a week or whatever this is. He got six and a half sacks. I don't know how many pressures he got making Rashad Gary's job so much easier.
Smitty
They lost to the Panthers.
JB
The Benders are playing really good ball this year, jb.
Smitty
Yeah.
JB
Defensively they locked the up. Ain't score no points, right? What Wasn't the game 16, 13? Yeah, I think he had like 130 yards passing or something like that.
Smitty
16 points. They won the game. 16 points at 13.
JB
Yeah.
Smitty
I don't know if you know, I'm not a math major, but I'm just saying they won the game.
JB
Defense, though.
Smitty
I'm saying they scored more points than the other team. That's all I know.
JB
All right. All right, well, blame Joe Flacco for the Bengals losing in. You can say he balled out. He threw 470. He didn't. He didn't score enough. He didn't do enough.
Smitty
Then how am I blaming Joe Flacco, huh? Joe Flacco actually had the lead, though. The defense let him down. Exactly my point you're making. You're actually.
JB
He should score more.
Smitty
Parsons plays on defense. Who allowed Carolina to go down the field and kick a field goal to win the game, homie, for 500 yards.
JB
It wasn't enough. He said, she'll do for 502.
Smitty
So he gets the ball. Play safety too.
JB
Now, did you watch the game? The Bengals were down. Actually, no. No, the Bengals was down and made a. A good.
Smitty
Side. Got all kinds of.
JB
Yeah, that's on him, homie. See, the problem is you are chaser. You look at stats, but you don't watch the whole game.
Smitty
This has been one of the Darnell's worst performances of his three years on the show today. For some reason. Okay, maybe because it was. He's been on a lot of vacations lately. He's been New Orleans, Vegas, Bali. You've been all over the place. Ever since he got fired, he'd been all over the place. So they must give him help. Severance. So anyway, there's a Halloween party with Joy Taylor. All kind of. He's been doing. He's been living his best life. Shout out to best. Best life living. But Shelly, like, his work performance is. Being outside work is. Is affecting his work performance today. So I just want you to know, as your partner, I wanted you to know that.
JB
Should I have one rebuttal to that? Earlier in today's show, JB agreed with our amazing guest, Dr. Jesse Morris, who comes on here weekly and breaks down injuries. They agree that Joe Flacco right now at 40 is better than a healthy Joe Burrow and that they would start their franchise with the Joe Faco over Joe Burrow. I thought that was like, disrespectful to who Joey B. Is. But when JB says my performance is bad, you guys, you gotta sit back and reflect.
Smitty
Can you let your lines. Hasn't helped the Packers. Can you let Sheldon know you're lying?
JB
Quick takes that. He just. He alluded to that. I want to kind of throw back at you so you can, you know, hear about.
Smitty
Can you tell Sheldon you're lying?
JB
Did you not damn near agree with Jesse Morris?
Smitty
Don't. Don't change now. See how he changes everything? He said, I brought it up. First of all, our doctor friend, Dr. Jesse Morris brought up that, like, poll question. I said, for what? He brought up the factual evidence of Joe Burrow being hurt often. Has he ever thrown for 470 and four touchdowns like Flacco just did? I said no. I said no. And I said also, I said, to your point, Joe Flacco's never had these weapons that he has right now, and it looks like he is in a match made in heaven. He's just unbelievable. He leads the league total offense, yards, touchdowns. Since he's been a Cincinnati Bengal over Stafford, over Mahomes, over Josh Allen. Flacco leaves NFL fact over his fourth starts there. So Stafford leads the NFL overall. But I'm just saying he got traded in week five. So here's the thing. I said he's balling. I told spinning this for since yesterday. I said I'm a balling. But it is what it is. The Bengals continue to lose to Smitty's point because they have a horrific defense and they just traded one of their best players to the Cowboys to another horrific defense. I don't get why you're robbing Peter to pay Paul here, but at the end of the day, if Burrow's not healthy. Sheldon, I don't know if. I don't know if. What's the difference? I mean, this guy's 40 and balling. I don't get it. There's no difference. I mean, one guy's hurt, it's not his fault. He's balling. I'm saying, was he supposed to not ball?
JB
I don't. I. I didn't expect Joe to ball like this, though. 470 at 40, that's. That's wicked. I'm not gonna lie. That's crazy.
Smitty
That's his second 400 yard game in four weeks.
JB
I mean, he got. He got two of the top.
Smitty
Yeah, I said the dog. I wish he would have had them in Cleveland. Might be they might be winning around that. What's your take on the NFC east making trades right now? The Eagles win and got Phillips another pass rusher. They were talking Miles Garrett. I heard.
JB
Then they got a corner too, right? They got your Boy back, right?
Smitty
They got him back. What's the name?
JB
Now they got your boy who's with the packers, which are the Ravens. Yep, yep.
Smitty
I mean, Howie Roseman makes moves. I think he's running. I think he'd make a running circles around Jerry Jones and the Cowboys, and we're only talking about those two right now because you're on the show and all that. I'm trying to figure out, like, what do you see as a player in that conference?
Dr. Jesse Morris
What.
Smitty
When you see. When you see moves being made, are you like, do you guys like. And now this is a vague question. Do you guys like, man, make a move, Make a move or not? Players in general as players. Like, if your team and your conference is making moves, do you guys look around? Not. You don't have to openly say it to. To your, like, ownership. I'm just saying, like, do you guys sit around, be like, man, hopefully we make a move when you need to make a move? I'm saying.
JB
Yeah, no, we don't really think like that. I guess we believe in the people in the building. So it's like, unless, like.
Smitty
That's a great answer.
JB
I've been in places where it's like, we had a major player get. Get hurt, and it's like, all right, like, we need to replace that piece to go on this run. So when I was in San Fran In 19, we. We traded for Emmanuel Sanders and he boosted our offense, and now we're like, okay, we're a Super bowl contender team. So are you guys.
Smitty
Are you guys content with Mariota?
JB
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Smitty
No doubt. I love my uso. You guys probably should go get Flacco, though.
JB
But what type of question is that? Don't say that. This. Just ask a current player. He said, are you content with your current starting quarterback now because of the situation?
Smitty
Well, no, I'm not asking him. Hold on. No, I'm not asking Sheldon directly. I'm saying, like, like, you know, the whole.
Steve Kim
Everything.
Smitty
The fan base, organization, everything we cool with. With Mario baby cracking up in the background. What, Homie? I'm just asking, homie, because he just mentioned you could go get trade. There's trade deadlines today, right, Sheldon? At what time?
JB
At 4pm Eastern.
Smitty
4Pm Are you possibly on the block at all or.
JB
No, I'm on peace squad, homie. I can't be on the block.
Smitty
Ah, you're back on peace squad.
JB
Hey, but. But can I. Can I say that I don't like that.
Smitty
I'm gonna be honest. I want him to Play. What's up?
JB
I know, I know. That was somebody. Yeah, yeah. You hear me? You know what I'm talking about? Yeah. Jamie. Dan, you all right?
Smitty
I want to see my boy play on me.
JB
I never seen you this like passionate behind anything.
Smitty
Because it comes back down to who? Anyway, White moms. But anyway, man, there's a lot going on, Sheldon. And Notre Dame's back playing this week. Them and Utah both have two losses against two good teams. They're going to be considered maybe coming down to the wire here in the playoff consideration. I know you're alum. You think there's any argument that Utah belongs in over Notre Dame or vice versa? If it comes down to those two.
JB
Particular teams, I'll be honest, Notre Dame gets in over Utah because of our fan base and the way we travel and viewership and all that other stuff. Like you, you talk to be the better team, but we're going to get in over them. Just off of the notary.
Smitty
I don't know if Utah's better team. I just, I'm just saying that right now, that's the conversation those two teams came with. Be the. Maybe outside looking in. I don't know. We'll see how it goes. I don't know. Utah, Smitty playing well, But Notre Dame, two 1 point losses to big time teams. But Miami now looks bad. Miami looks bad and it's hurting Notre Dame.
JB
Yeah, really bad now. But you know, momentum is a when it comes to sports and like that's still a good loss if you're going to call it a. You know what I'm saying? Like a good loss for Notre Dame is a really good team. I think like you said, they start off 0 and 2. I think everybody just lost their mind. Oh, they're done. Like. No, this is a really good team. One of the best teams in the country. I think as long as they keep rolling the rest of the season, which I think they will, I think they'll be right there in the mix. No. 100.
Smitty
I gotta ask you one thing before you leave. I appreciate you coming in here. I know you have means it. What's your thoughts on this right here?
JB
Is this real? This Photoshop? No, it's real.
Smitty
That's real.
JB
This is real. Why don't y' all wear knee pad stuff no more? Michelle, Is this just college or like y' all don't none of y' all cover y' all knees no more? It's weird.
Smitty
Why are you looking very disturbed? Sheldon, just for the, for the audio listeners, you're looking very like, like you're, you're kind of like dumbfounded with the face. What's going on here?
JB
I'm confused.
Dr. Jesse Morris
I don't know why.
Smitty
I've been confused for a while.
JB
Yeah, I don't know if those are football fans.
Smitty
Yeah. People have been asking me a very common, simple question, Sheldon. They've been asking me, coach jb, what would you do if your player walked out like that? It's very simple. I, I would choke them. It's very real simple. He's not going out there. A, number 1B. I don't know where the referees have allowed this to occur at the NCAA level. That's number two. And I don't understand how the coach's staff has allowed this to continue to happen. There's a lot of things going on here. What is this? What are we doing? Like, this is ridiculous. And I'm glad Kirk Herbstreet called him out because he called this game show. He said, what the hell are we wearing? And I'm glad Kirk Hershey. Now, listen, you could talk about all the old school heads that have come out and forward and said, we're old school. We're on the porch yelling at the clouds. Whatever you want to say. This isn't still football last time I checked. I, I don't understand why this is getting a pass just because he makes 53 yard field goal. That's the DMS I'm getting. As long as he makes field goal, he can wear booty shorts.
JB
Jb, did you say.
Smitty
Shut up.
JB
Did you say you would tell the other team like to put their helmet into a squad?
Smitty
Yes, I would tell Shell. I said, hey, dog, I want you to put your helmet right on that motherfucker's quad right there. Because I'm a beyond. I'm take the 15 yarder and that's on you. That's a you problem, homie. Are we now, are we playing flag football? Like, I can't hit this guy in the legs now and tackle him. Is that a real thing? Because this is unprotected. Right.
JB
Comfortable. Don't eat jv.
Smitty
Yeah, like, he's just like, it. I, I'll be embarrassed as if I'm Venables today. This guy walks out on my football team wearing my uniform on a major stage against tennis. They're playing Tennessee, Sheldon. They're playing Tennessee in front of 110,000 people. Like, are you kidding me?
JB
Oh, man. Yeah, that's. That's crazy. Like, there's no excuse for this, I guess. Like in the league, you get fined for this. So, like, you can't show any skin in the league. So. I know in college I would show my cash.
Smitty
I hope they keep it, man, because I. I don't know if you've watched Florida Gators. Their whole defensive line is like this too.
JB
No chance.
Smitty
No, real. Their whole D line looks like this real. I don't know if Bailey can find it, but their whole D line is.
JB
Looks like this D line. Because I got connections, but I do.
Smitty
People have been sending me videos and pictures, dog, of Florida, and I. I actually watched them play when they played Miami. And with Steve Camp, dog, the whole Florida D line was like this. And I'm like, what the are we doing?
JB
When I was at Ball State, they must have changed the rules. Like, you literally, like, you had to have like a knee pad and you have to have that stuff covered.
Dr. Jesse Morris
If I.
Steve Kim
If I.
Smitty
If I get to, like. I'm the left tackle and guard and I'm talking. I'm gonna. I'm gonna ace. Induce this. And I got this on defense like this. I'm gonna be real Sheldon. Hey, dog, we're gonna hi hat the out of this and take his quad out and shell, you know, talking about high hat influence his ass up. I'm gonna cut this thigh pad out on me where he don't have no thigh pad.
JB
How you doing, baby? How you doing?
Smitty
Do it.
JB
You did.
Smitty
I'm a hi hat, homie. Hot. A hi hat homie influence. And cut that right in this thigh pad, homie. I'm tired of this. Look at that. So I'm telling you, homie, it's real.
JB
That's crazy. How do we. How do we get here?
Smitty
How do we get here, y', all, y'.
JB
All. He got his pants folded up, homie.
Smitty
Generation. The generation, homie.
JB
I had to wear a knee. I had to wear a knee brace.
Smitty
Hey, Shout, y' all didn't go. You do a hell of a job, community. But you didn't go back and tell the youngsters, like, you gotta. You gotta wear knee pads, homie. You know what I'm saying?
JB
At least the Florida dude had on bypass, you know, like, so we think.
Smitty
You know, they really weren't damn near, though. They're actually now nut pads. He had them all the way up. He had him damn near. Look how high the. Come on, homie. Look at this cell. Come on now. Real. Like, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go get you, homie. Your whole quad is exposed. And by the way, why is the knee pad and the thigh pad together in the same pad.
JB
It's like inner. It's like, it's like the neo top of the back.
Smitty
Come on, homie. If I, if I've not, I'm just telling you, dog, this is a pro. The NCAA should be a ashamed of yourself. You'll find a for getting a burger. You won't, you won't. You won't suspend or find a guy for this. It's ridiculous.
Dr. Jesse Morris
Ridiculous.
JB
I almost got in trouble getting Olive Garden.
Smitty
I'm saying, homie, it's ridiculous, dog.
JB
I'm so Moniece said yes, these y need to stop. Like, for real. Hey, but no, I guess like jb, I. I got. I'm take a. A broad take. And you know, in college, you working out all this time, you got the six pack, you know, you feel like you big and strong sometimes you want to show your quads off, you know.
Steve Kim
So maybe these kids, they feel like.
JB
They big and strong and squatting the house. They want to show their bmos and their definition and stuff. Maybe. I don't know.
Smitty
I'm talking about this guy, this guy quads. This guy Quads is, is. He's. He's. He's legit too, with the quads.
JB
He's trying to probably strong for him, like, for him, like for a kicker. He's probably like, yeah, I got legs like the white girls, the frat girls, probably the sorority girls probably like that.
Smitty
All these coaches should be fired for allowing it out there there. Like just allowing your guy to walk out there looking like this, like he's on a stripper pole is a mockery of the game. It's ruined the game that I knew. So I. It's ridiculous. And I would tell every one of my players, they're gonna wear their right way on my team, number one. Number two, the guys that wear the the right way are gonna go them up that don't have them on. We're gonna just come out like, like, what was that movie Shelly? When they came out and just kicking.
JB
Nah.
Smitty
Unnecessary roughness too. Yeah, but come out Mollywop these, homie.
JB
Jamie, you are partly like to blame though, because like, you just finished coaching not that long ago. It's been with like last five years. So like.
Smitty
Yeah, I'm just saying. Hey, Charlotte, my players are in the chat right now. They'll tell you I did a symposium every week on knee pads, thigh pads. Oh, on where to go. And then I had a referee come out and tell the team this is what a penalty Is this is what we're going to call. Blah, blah, blah. I want to know why that stopped from the referee side. Why haven't the refs going out and said, hey, listen, they got to be below this here. They got to be, blah, blah, blah, blah. That's definitely not going on because the referees are in the game watching it. So I'm tripping on this.
JB
Can you spell symposium?
Smitty
Huh?
JB
You spell symposium?
Smitty
S, Y, M, P, O, S. I, M. You a bad boy.
JB
Bad boy. I was asking. I didn't know. That's good.
Smitty
I'm a, like, damn near savant at all things, really. So anyway, Sheldon, much love, man. Keep battling. Hopefully you're back on playing and getting back after it, win some games. So shout out to you, man.
JB
See y' all next Tuesday.
Smitty
All right, brother.
JB
I appreciate you.
Smitty
Peace. Sheldon day, man. It's Sheldon's day on this month.
JB
In the trenches.
Smitty
In the trenches. Smitty, have you seen Jerry Jones with Stephen A on his show, like, in Dallas yesterday?
JB
No, I heard about it. I didn't actually see the clips.
Smitty
We don't have to show. I don't know if Bailey has it or not, but I was earlier, homie. That is ridiculous.
JB
I did see this, though, right here. He's all right. I'm out. It was after they did a show.
Smitty
They did Stephen a show, and Jerry was with Michael Irvin. They did it on, like, a stage or whatever.
JB
Yeah, that's hard.
Smitty
And this came out and said basically, like, I'm for clicks and likes. He was like, I'm for controversy. I'mma continue to do it. Blah, blah, blah. And then, like. And then he was. There's a crowd. There was Dallas Cowboy fans in the crowd, like, yeah. And the crowd is just like.
JB
That, though.
Smitty
It was hard to watch that on me. I. I was. I was tripping.
JB
Like, that's why they are the richest. If he's. Have you ever sold the Cowboys? Come on, baby. Much money they gonna get. Like, that's so you. Like, the thing that makes them is what breaks them, homie.
Smitty
I have no issue with what he does. I've always said he's the owner is what it is. He can do what he want. I'm just telling you, they're always going to be the discussion. The topic of discussion. Win, lose, a draw. And there's only so many. So much you can make up about how shitty they are. Like, there's only so much that we can continue to say how bad they are and how many ways how bad they are. Like, their Defense is bad. They can't. They can't make layups. On offense, everything's a big chunk play or nothing. They're three and out if it's not a big play. Smitty to Pickens or. Or. Or Lamb. They really have no run game. They really have no. You know, whether they hit the tight end, big chunk play like they did last night. But other than that, no option routes, no intermediate routes, no underneath. Get. Move the sticks with the tight end as we're used to. Like, use the tight end, homie. Attach them to the run game, play, pass it, get them in the flat, get them on stick routes, get them on exit routes. Nothing. I. I don't see it. And we anointed them as the best offense and blah, blah, blah, blah. Hold up. I got it. Smitty, you want to dress this?
JB
Eddie Manyweather said the Dallas Cowboys need a better coach.
Smitty
It's always something else. It's always a new excuse for this fan base, man. It's always something. Now. Now this too. Eddie.
JB
Smitty, we need to pick up Max Crosby.
Smitty
Just keep going. What else do you want to say?
Dr. Jesse Morris
What else?
Smitty
What else, homie? What else is it? We need Troy Aikman back. We need Emmett Gooden to play. We need Emma Smith to play. Yeah, we need Emma good in my former player. We need Emmett Smith to play. We need Michael Irvin back. We need Tune back. We need Nate Newton. We need Larry Allen. No, you guys are. You haven't done 37 years, homie. You and the 49ers are in the same boat. Nah.
JB
At least the Niners been there, and they've been in the NFC championship and they win, you know? Come on now. Call me the Cowboys that missed an NFC championship game in 30 years. 31 years I've been alive, dog.
Smitty
They're so bad, homie.
JB
Shoulder hurt, man. It's tingling. Oh, man. Got going rest of the day.
Smitty
Hold on.
JB
What?
Smitty
What happened?
JB
Something bad happen?
Smitty
Nah, I'm reading RG3's tweet on me. RG3's got to be. Yeah, let's do it. Let's do this last thing. Smitty. Let's do this big topic right here, man. This is another cringe vibe. And listen, you know me. I'm hard on this next topic.
JB
On.
Smitty
On the discussion of who we're talking about here.
JB
Hold on. Which one? Let me see.
Smitty
Odunzi. What?
JB
Roma Dunes. Dad. Jane Meduzzi has been going off about his son on Twitter. We gotta read. We gotta. Let's read and react to it. So here he goes, man. So a random person tweeted out, can the Bears trade Romaduzzi to a team that will actually throw to him? His daddy Court retweeted and put like a little red, little like target, like bingo. Like, you know, reaction to it. Then he put his son's targets and kind of stats so far, he said targets 59 catchable targets, 37 receptions, 31 receptions for first downs, 27 drops touchdown yards. And then he ended it with stats over. Narratives seems to go in. Oh our God. Brain Foko said Odell Beckham Jr's dad post video showing Becker Mayfield not passing obj. And it's a lot of going on, homie. He's going in. He's just reacting to everybody. Another tweet. People talk about Roma Duzay on this app like he killed an immediate family, family member of theirs. Why do you guys hate your best player? James Corporate tweeted 100. He doesn't spend it all day on here. He's reposting. Can the Bears trade them? These are all things jb. If I'm. If I'm wrong, I'm telling my daddy to say stop it immediately. I'm gonna be respectful as my daddy, my father. Am I gonna, like, cuss and do all that but like pop you got. This is my life and my career. And you're making. You're bringing me unnecessary attention from the media for my teammates, from my quarterback, from my head coach that I don't need and I don't want. Stop this. Let me. I'm a man. Let me handle it. If I believe these things, I have an agent. I can go speak instead of my own ten toes. You're gonna speak for myself and handling myself. I don't need my father out here pushing out these narratives. 100. So that's where I'm at. Jason.
Smitty
My daddy would never do that. That's the problem. That's the fact nobody wants to talk about. His son would have to tell him shut the upper. Because my daddy gonna make his son grow up and learn that there's trials and tribulations in the real world. And this is the NFL. There's a 1% of the planets that gets to play. And you're on a team. Playing on a team in the NFL. And hear what I said again. Listen closely. You're on a team in the NFL and you're playing on that team. You're not just on it either. Playing on it. And then your daddy to come out and do this. Old John Moran ass. And this whole issue I have with these helicopter parents. And you wonder why seven on sevens ruined the youth. Because of this right here. These helicopter parents, homie, who think the NFL now is, but is is. Is owed to us. Like this is a privilege and a right all in one. This ain't no privilege, homie. I mean this ain't no right. It's a goddamn privilege. Your son's in this. He was touched by the gods to be as good as he is. And he's playing on Sundays in the NFL in a media market like Chicago, who's still known for Mike Ditka and SU85 Super bowl championship and the rest of the is now this OBJ's daddy again all over. And this is sickening to see. And I just, I. I don't get it, dog. I don't understand it. It is created these soft kids, homie. And it's the daddy, it's the mama, it's the parent. Just. Just enjoy the life you're living, homie. This has some growing to do just like their quarterback. And listen, you know me, I'm as hard as anybody on Gail Williams. The fact of the matter is I'll never go against a quarterback starting in the NFL when he has to deal with some like this because I don't give a who he is. You got to deal with this too. On top of all the other. Now half the you create on yourself, painting your nails and all that, that's one thing. But you got to deal with parents on the outside saying that you're not getting his son the ball. There's a whole nother thing after a.
JB
Game in which, let's be real, Caleb actually played pretty solid. Threw 280 through three touchdowns. You know what I'm saying? He's his.
Smitty
They didn't go to dun catches.
JB
Zero. His son has a zero stat line. But also, if I'm not mistaken, he had a. He had a key drop, I think in the end zone. He also had a penalty that was on him. So it was a couple plays that. That could have been made by him that, hey, he got to take some ownership.
Smitty
It was like, this is the problem, homie. Like so. So now winning in the NFL. Now get my son the stats. Do you understand what's being said here? Like. Like winning the game. We're five and three and I'm bitching and moaning about a stats for your second year wideout. It's sickening to see, homie. I'll be real real with you. It's sickening to see this. Like shut the up. Is that real? Real. Don't tell me that he's a Chicago fan. He. That's real bailey. No, I'm talking about what Rio said. Does it. Motherfucker got a white mom.
JB
His daddy Nigerian. I know that.
Smitty
Remember, I got a white mom.
JB
Everybody's saying, yeah.
Smitty
I'm. I'm done. There's nothing I can't prove no more. That this is the death.
JB
Oh, shoot. Ah. Yeah.
Smitty
What?
JB
Yeah.
Smitty
What?
JB
Yeah.
Smitty
What are you saying y' all like that for?
JB
Yeah, baby might drop it in the thing real quick. Real quick. Baddie. We'll end on this Baddie.
Smitty
Darnell.
JB
Huh?
Smitty
I want to be very clear.
JB
Yeah. The chat is saying what they saying. And. And I just looked up quick little dropped it to Bailey. They better put it here. Here in the video, I think it's confirmed of who. Who his mother is. And I. And I ain't got no problem with. That's not my beef. I'm just letting you know I'm confirming that you. The chat is correct and who. He has a Nigerian father and a white mother. And I, you know, shout out to.
Smitty
Her.
JB
You know, I'm sure she's a hell of a mother and raised a great son who's out here doing his thing.
Dr. Jesse Morris
But.
JB
Yes.
Smitty
Come here, Cali. I want you to let them know something, too. Do you? Do you, homie? And just hit me.
JB
What?
Smitty
What colors, Cali.
JB
Why?
Smitty
Worst mom I ever had as a dog. I had that dream again. My small business needs it help. But I don't. I don't use LinkedIn and I hire wrong. So then I'm doing it. And when I go to plug the servers in, they become sentient. And they won't let us access our network unless we forward their chain emails and memes to more and more and more people. And then I wake up.
JB
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Date: November 4, 2025
Hosts: Jason Brown (Coach JB) and “Big Smitty”
Featured Guests: Dr. Jesse Morris (Sports Injury Analyst), Steve Kim (Sports Commentator), Sheldon Day (NFL Defensive Tackle)
This lively episode dives into current NFL and college football controversies, focusing on Kyler Murray's tenuous future with the Arizona Cardinals, the quarterback carousel and locker room dynamics, the impact of major injuries in the league, and broader cultural/sports debates. The conversation is unfiltered, blending sharp football analysis with the hosts' signature blend of bravado, humor, and tough love. Segments also tackle pressing college football stories, the business of streaming sports, controversial parenting in athletics, and issues extending beyond the gridiron.
Timestamp: 03:31 – 11:32
Coach JB’s Rant:
On Marvin Harrison Jr.:
Cowboys & Jerry Jones:
Timestamp: 03:58 – 13:40, 88:02 – 98:41
Timestamp: 29:49 – 66:09
Jaden Daniels Injury:
Quarterback Assessment & "Mid-Tier" QBs:
Other Injury Updates:
Timestamp: 25:41 – 28:23
Timestamp: 13:40 – 20:52
Timestamp: 86:23 – 132:29
Miami Hurricanes Analysis:
Colorado/Coach Prime:
Auburn & Coach Carousel:
Utah, Notre Dame, Dukes, and Nebraska:
Timestamp: 187:23 – 194:00
On Kyler Murray:
“Kyler Murray, you’re cooked. You’re the mental midget… The results are very clear. The money—trade his ass right now.” – JB (05:44)
On Streaming Woes:
“The conglomerate eats all of us little people. And it will continue unless people say enough is enough… If I get the jailbroken fire stick, though, all this can be free.” – JB (95:19)
On Jaden Daniels' Injury:
“If this was his throwing elbow, I don’t know if he’s ever the same quarterback.” – Dr. Jesse Morris (33:04)
Locker Room Culture:
“Coaches want to coach. They want to be able to coach guys that do what the plan [says]… Kyler Murray don’t do that. You can clearly see that the Cardinals are in tune with what Brissette’s doing.” – JB (46:20)
On the Cowboys & Jerry Jones:
“You took a linebacker from the other worst defense in the league and made it a secret… A white linebacker, a Will Compton is your secret to win the playoffs…” – JB (09:05)
Steve Kim on Miami’s Cristobal:
"Mario Cristobal is more conservative than Rush Limbaugh, and I think it's an absolute anchor to this program." – Steve Kim (117:35)
Odunze Parenting Critique:
“This is sickening. This is the problem, homie. So now winning in the NFL—now get my son the stats. Do you understand what’s being said here?” – JB (192:02)
The show's style is authentic, brash, and conversational—flowing from serious analysis to comedic sparring. The energy is high, with “old head vs. new school” banter, pointed critiques, and off-the-cuff storytelling. The hosts’ deep roots in football and culture shine through as they toggle between in-the-trenches wisdom and hot-take provocations.
This summary captures the major themes, insights, and moments from the episode, making it useful for both regular listeners and newcomers looking to keep up with the ongoing sagas in pro and college football—and the heated personalities who break it all down.