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JB
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Smitty
Financial services. Insurance financial services.
JB
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Smitty
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JB
That I would not look the other way if I thought a motherfucker. That's Kareem that's worthy and that's cool Rest of this damn Laker that's that Robert Paris said, coop, you know I got your back like a backpack, boy Robert Paris, you know he ain't it's all good. You know the Celtics, all of them.
Smitty
We see you like you slap dicks issues get pressed so pass you don't get stacked like bags and back itch Smitty and Jason Brown kill the ass a rap we what the games been missing we switched it and filled the gap Smitty and Jason Brown we killed it yeah it's a rap we want the games we missing we switched back to put the fear of God in these. Sam, What up, what up, what up, man? We're in the building. Is talk that talk Tuesday. So talk and I will talk back. Pound that like subscribe, become a member. Appreciate everybody. Yesterday we had a 1.5k hit the like button. We should have 2k every day. Steve Kim joins us talking about Miami hurricanes taking an L and Sheldon's day. He is on the active roster for the commanders. He'll be joining us as well. We'll talk their loss to the cowboys as they drop two in a row. How they get back on track we're gonna dive into that and plus so much more so pound the light as we Interrupt. Get comfortable on this. Fine. Talk that talk. Tuesday the World Series is set in stone for this Friday in O. Canada. Oh Canada as The Dodgers are minus 210 favorites because you guys are shitty. You haven't been back since 93. We're gonna wax that ass like rain. Dash should be a good series though. But the Dodgers pitching will be the difference. It'll be the difference maker. And can they control Guerrero? Keep him down to a minimum with guys in scoring position. That'll be the key for the Doyers to win back to back World Series since the first time since the Yankees. Shout out to one of my favorite players growing up, Don Mattingly. He has been in the Major League baseball since 1982. Fourteen years as a player, 12 years as a manager and then another 12 years or so as a bench coach. And he has never been to a World Series. He will finally get a taste of a World Series as a bench coach for the Toronto Blue Jays. Get this, he missed the World Series by a hair his entire life. His entire life. I just thought this was crazy. Came up as a rookie in 82. Do you know who won the World Series in 81? The Yankees to the Dodgers. Retired after 1995, the year before the Yankees became champs again. Then he returned to the Yankees as a hitting coach in 04 after the Yankees lost to the Marlins in 03 in the world Series. Then he left with Joe Torrey to coach the Dodgers in 08 and the Yankees won it all again in 09. And then he left the Dodgers to manage the Marlins in 2015. The Dodgers made it back to the World Series in 17 after 29 year drought. Now after 43 years in the bigs he finally gets the biggest stage in baseball. Happy for Don Mattingly. Man hit man as he gets it there. Too bad you're gonna lose because Dodgers are gonna be dead ass. The NBA tips off tonight if anyone cares. The Thunder try to repeat as they take on the Rockets in KD. The Lakers without LeBron take on St. Steph and the warriors here in LA. I won't even entertain the NBA until after the super bowl to say the least. I just have to say it and I want to be clear here. I want to get into this with Smitty. Can we bring Smitty in because I want to ask him this question. Our main man Far East Sider317 LeBron hairline having Lamar Jackson loving and AR5 defending and now Danny Dimes Lovin, Caitlin Clark, Jocken Big Smitty joins the show.
JB
What's going on, homie? Man, what's going on, man? What's going on? Chat. We got Rio K, Shay, Luciano, OG VC in the building. Hit the like button right now. Subscribe. Become a member today. Shout out to Gibby. Took care of my rent this month. Shout out to you.
Smitty
Appreciate you like Gibby, though. I ain't even seen Gibby in here.
JB
Hey, we shout them out anyway. I'm shouting out every day, no matter what.
Smitty
Moving forward, $2,000.
JB
Shout out to Gibby.
Smitty
Yeah, it might have been pillowed.
JB
Shout out to Mike Bundy.
Smitty
Yeah, but Gibby might got pillow last night by his wife.
JB
You think so?
Smitty
She might have went online on a humbug. Try to order Amazon. Yeah, she might have went on Amazon, ordered some.
Sheldon Day
Oh.
Smitty
She kept submitting it. Like, submit credit card declined. And then she kept saying, what the. And then she kept doing it. And she put her number in again. She repeated number in there. She thought she had the three digit code wrong. She put that back in there, right?
JB
Yeah.
Smitty
Then she called the bank. She was like, what the going on? Then they said, you overdrawn. And she's like, what the. Give me that. That was Gilbert. Gilbert. That was running like a homie. Come here. That. That. She hot at that. Give me right? Might be on the damn near on the run right now. Yeah, yeah. What'd you come on your bill as, right? I don't know. Do we know anyone know what it comes on your bill as?
JB
Like YouTube?
Smitty
Is it like porn? Is it like porn where it comes or it comes over as like some weird XL82 Tom's. Remember that? My brother used to tell me young, like, hey, it don't even show up so dad won't know it comes on as X84 69. I'm like, yeah, they do. Is that homie?
JB
YouTube?
Smitty
Okay, okay. So then he.
JB
Yeah, it's a rap.
Smitty
He. It. Because now he's on YouTube.
JB
He.
Smitty
She right at the gate, though. That's how females go. Get down. That's just so, you know, he cheating. He talked. He on a chat with a girl number one right out the gate. Then they found out he on our show. And now she's like, now she reneging. She kind of. She said, feel bad, but all right. But you still fit $2,000. Like it don't matter. He's.
JB
It's still my money. Right, right, right. Yeah. He.
Smitty
Smitty, I want to dive into this question with you as my. My lead in was going to continue, but I said, let me get in and Have a debate. I just got to say it. Having two Monday night football games are brutal. They're brutal, homie. I'll be honest. I thought last night was the single worst of all time of my life. Here's why. I'm just saying I don't even care about the games. One week you have two games simultaneously. One starts like 20 minutes after the other one, right? Then the next week you'll have a three hours in between, right? And then last night there was a three hours start difference. But here's the issue. If the first one's a good game, the next one starts at a hard 7 8, 7pm no matter what, it'll start on a different channel. But now if you don't have two TVs, you're kind of watching the last of a good game. You want to start the favorite team, you may be on the second game. You can't even turn that on yet, right? So that you got that and vice versa. Unless you got multiple TVs. I just got a question dog. Why, like why do we need two games on Monday night? Roger Goodell and I, I can't wait to get ready to take. Because it's horrible to me. I wouldn't love to see the data on this and guess what? I got the data, so it is horrible. I, I would love to see the data. That's why I brought it up. But no way it's thriving. Smitty, I fell asleep last night and I had a long ass day. I had to go all the way to Orange county twice, homie. It was a crazy day, guy. I got my lounge floor being ripped apart this week because I got to get this floor. You know how it has that in it? So it's all up. I got to get the. I got to rip it all out and move furniture. But I had to run in Orange county twice to get the flooring. Then I got my whole shed. You saw the size of the house. But that's a me problem. But I'm just saying it was a long ass day. I was tired as. Then I had my mom come over last night in the theater and, and I had to host her so I couldn't do titties and tequila. I'll be back Thursday for titties and tequila on Patreon. I fell asleep. So any before the second quarter now it might have been because I was tired. But also three hours a came over, Ruben was still here. We watching the first game, I made tacos. But then like damn, you watch a shitty first game. Then you got three hours in the second game start. And it's just like, there's no pizzazz no more, homie. They're like, there's no like no one is it really? Are you hyped to see that game? Like I gotta be honest, I don't know about you, Smitty. I'm not like, I'll be honest.
JB
Yeah, I mean we ought to really show. I turned the second game off. I had it on you, right?
Smitty
I haven't talked to you, right?
JB
Yeah, no you haven't. Right handed. And I'm not lying right handed guy. And of course we love. I love football. But it just, I don't know, it's just. I just got done watching a three hour game that was probably. He said it was pretty solid. And then like this game that started so late, I had a long day too. Obviously you guys know I was in studio so I had to make that drive and was working all throughout the day. So at. It got to the point where I'm like, damn man. Like I don't feel like watching like a game at this time right now. And then the game was just kind of slow. And then I, I think they had like, respectfully, they didn't have like the, the A team as far as the, the, you know, Trey Eggman and them like doing the game.
Smitty
Yeah.
JB
And I'm not saying that, and I'm not saying they did a bad job, but it's just different. It's like when I hear Eggman and Buck, it's like, all right, this is Monday night. This is the right. So when it's not them, it is. You don't have the same pizzazz. And the game was slow. The Texas offense was just looking shitty. I was like maybe turn on like a NCIS or something. This is some crime show just before I go to sleep and that's what I do.
Smitty
Yeah, I turned on two and a half man. But here, here's what it is, Minnie man. And I want to give you guys an insight. Having two games that are three hours apart, there is a. So the, the average first game is average between 20. Between 18 and 21.4 million viewers on ESPN. While the second game dramatically drops from. From 8 million to 13 million in that month. So you're talking 10 million drop off, you know, 10 million to 8 million depending on the first games.
JB
Yeah.
Smitty
Deal. So week six, 21.9 million viewers watched during the two hour overlap period. Week four overlapping each the game between 8:15 and 10:15 average 2121 million viewers. The first game though the jets and the Dolphins had only 8 million in the second game. So total was 21 million. The first game had 8 million. But then the second game was the Bengals Broncos. Week four it had 13 million. So like I don't think really care to watch two games. I just want to know why there's two games.
JB
And then I think on the east coast too, like It's Monday at 9. They have to be at work.
Smitty
How you all in this chat right now from the east coast, did you guys seriously stay up till one in the morning and watch the Monday night football game with Dan Orlovsky? Like, I'm serious. No offense to Dan, but like I don't want to hear Dan talk three hours.
JB
Why you keep saying Dan's name specifically though?
Smitty
Like me, here's the issue. I, I don't, I don't see how the east co. Like I fell asleep on the west coast. There's no New York. I'm in New York like getting my popcorn ready. My, I'm drinking still. I got four. Yeah, yeah, I gotta watch 4am I got work tomorrow to steel mill shot. I gotta go.
JB
Right, right, right.
Smitty
What like, come on, homie. Ah, thank you Leah. Thank you Leah. For other things too, but thank you Leah. Not that, not that's many but like just watching her Twitter and stuff makes me, makes my day. But let me tell you something, that's why. That's why they're doing two games. It's only because of the betting. Telling you right now, homie. It's because of the betting. It has nothing to do with anything else. I just want to know why two games? Why, why can't you have that other game on Sunday? Why are we shorted on the weekend when the Cats don't have to watch at 10pm and get to watch like with our kids, family barbecue, whatever. Why are we shorted a game? Because, see, people don't realize it's either the AM games on the West Coast, 10am slot. Yeah, you're shorting the game there or you're shorting that 1pm slot. 4pm on the East Coast. You're slotting one of them short. Why? And you could probably have a better Sunday night game instead of a shitty ass Sunday night game that we've been getting. I'm just telling you dog, it's so stupid. In my opinion.
JB
Might be on or something.
Smitty
Jason, why are we having two Monday night games? I don't get it. But anyway, we'll dive back into that later. Smitty. Tua on the dolphins are a train wreck, but you get what you asked for. You get what you asked for, especially when you're in a position of power, as Tua was at the time of Mike McDaniel's hire, meaning he knew he was on the verge of getting a big contract, which he got last year. He was the guy saying, I don't want Flores. I don't want Fangio. They yell at me. They're mean guys. And I wanted Mike. And guess who wanted Tua. Mike. Mike McDaniel wanted to a Tua wanted Mike. You get what you asked for when you're in a position of power, as both of these individuals were. It's a match made in heaven, isn't it, Smitty? Two followers being led by each other. Let that sink in, homie. Two followers being led by each other. This is over, and the experiment is done. Smitty, finito. It is time to grow up again, Miami, and make a professional grown man decision. Go get you a real man as a head coach and go get you a quarterback who can throw it in the rain, the snow, and play in cold weather. But what do I know? Steve, Kim, Michelle, and day, join us. Smitty, let's dive right into the quot of today. Brought to you by BET US TV s greatness is hidden in ordinary days repeated with extraordinary commitment.
JB
The repetition is what really leads to the greatness. Anybody could be great for like a day, maybe two days. But when you do it over and over and over and over.
Smitty
10,000 hours, you become great.
JB
I love it. Yeah.
Smitty
10,000 hours, homie. You perfect something. That's what they say.
JB
I always heard that, like, are people really counting hours, though? Like, do we really know we hit 10,000?
Smitty
Yeah. Ticker. Yeah, Get a clicker. You know, the walk.
JB
How many hours have you done this show?
Smitty
You notice the clicker that you do monitor your steps? Yep, I do that. How many hours I got on the show? I got, like. Like 2 million.
JB
So I probably got at least, what, 500, 000 hours? Probably.
Smitty
Then there's not even. We haven't even lived that long. I don't think. I don't think we've lived a 500, 000.
JB
You're gonna do, like, a. Like a four hour show five days a week. So that's full. So, all right, that's four hours times five days. That's 20. It's four weeks in a month.
Smitty
We're not four hours a day, though. Not four hours.
JB
Minimum. Huh?
Smitty
We're not four hours a day, though.
JB
But you gotta think about the totality of it. Like, the prep before I do.
Smitty
Way more Patreon T Tequila. Like, last night's content. Me smoking you in front of the house. Like, on.
JB
I won that easily. Everybody saw that. You jumped early. Clearly you jumped early.
Smitty
So that was on you. You were the one that jumped.
JB
You started taking off like I was.
Smitty
A barefooted homie going downhill. Contrary to belief, Smitty brought you by underdog fantasy. Makes me head over there, man. Both quarterbacks, me last night.
JB
Me too.
Smitty
Over the number. Like, I'm thinking, okay, Secondary shitty on one side, the other side's banged up. Both quarterbacks should eat. And then it starts off, I said, st. Brown over seven catches. He had six.
JB
I haven't won a bed in a long time. And it started to make me, like, very uncomfortable. I'm getting very pissed. I know I. I know I should probably take, like. Like a week, like, a couple days off. Take a deep breath. But, like, I'm so competitive that. And I know the game too much. So, like, I gotta win one soon. So I'm just keep going on underdog until I get it.
Smitty
You might listen to me one time when the league and every. All the players within it became really feminine. It's harder to bet. If you haven't noticed. I stopped doing the college dfs. I can't do it because these.
JB
You can't trust kids.
Smitty
Nah, that's too unpredictable. And they're, like, kind of gay. And then you got the NFL. The NFL. Smitty is just the same way. It's just. It's just kind of an older version of the college. They're just getting nil anyway. They just get on a paycheck and salary. Says NFL on it. But anyway, contrary to belief brought to you by underdog Smitty. Loneliness is not punishment. It is the proving ground where the unbreakable are born. Yeah, you gotta hear. You gotta hear that again because you're not.
JB
You didn't even understand your deep today. Like.
Smitty
Yeah, I. I had to come out with a deep one because I know I had a lot of my. I have a lot of micro subscribers.
JB
Okay.
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Smitty
Not really in tune. I got to step their game up. I want them to get on their tip. Loneliness is not punishment. It is the proving ground where the unbreakable are born. That means that's where I get the thing and figure out this is where I Am who I am. I'm unbreakable. Because this is where I was born at, homie. It's not punishment, homie.
JB
That's where you grow, homie.
Smitty
The proving ground. Step your up.
JB
That's a good one right there. I'm a lot, so I ain't gonna rank it because it's almost too deep.
Smitty
Yeah, you can't, you can't. It take all day for you to grasp it.
JB
Yeah, it's almost like his own separate category. Almost.
Smitty
Yeah. I want to make a shout out to the Minnesota Vikings. Joe Accord. I'm gonna. I'm gonna probably be your worst enemy going forward. You guys are a horrible organization. You guys are absolutely ridiculous. I want to stand on my ten toes and stand on business. When I said you guys should have never got rid of Sam Darnold or Daniel Jones. And I'm the first one and the only one. I'm the only one in mass media. And now it's on espn. Now they're using our on ESPN right now as we speak. Smitty, Smitty, you should actually turn it on and watch what they're saying. They're saying what I said a year and a half ago. What do I know, homie?
JB
We did translators, homie. I've been told you that.
Smitty
But I told you motherfuckers to not get rid of this. You made a haste judgment because Sam Darnold got his ass lit up in the playoffs and couldn't block me and Smitty. And now you thought that that was him Donald shitty. Because he is Fugazi. He went 14:1, you idiots. You Joe Accords out there who are meat riders? Purple people eaters. You thought it was better to get rid of Sam Donald. By the way, he's only third in pass efficiency this year in the NFL. He's only got 13 touchdowns, four in the picks. He's only fifth in yards, he's only fifth in touchdowns. But guess what? And then Daniel Jones you had in your as the backup and you let that go get an MVP for the Colts, you idiot.
JB
Thank you, Accord. Thank you, Joe.
Smitty
And by the way, the four, the five and two Steelers quarterback is a guy named Aaron Rodgers who wanted to go to you, but guess what you did. You said, nah, it's all right, we'll go with JJ McCarthy who hasn't played it down. How's that worked out, Joe? How's that working? Hey Joe, remember you told me that J.J. was the next coming of Joe Montana?
JB
Yeah.
Smitty
How's that working out, homie? How's that working out, Minnesota? You idiots think you're so goddamn smart. You suck dick.
JB
Nope.
Smitty
God damn you. Now you want to talk about what the we said over a year ago? Keep Sam Darnold, homie. You idiot.
JB
Joe said.
Smitty
I don't get it, Joe. You're so iffy. Shut up. You'll DM me later on with some other excuse. Set the out of here, man. You're so wishy washy. Oh ass. I can't stand a pushy washy homie. Stand on business out here with that wishy washy poll question. Moving on amicably, Smitty. Should the NFL MVP exclude quarterback?
JB
Should I exclude it?
Smitty
Yeah.
JB
Separate.
Smitty
Yeah.
JB
Deep conversation.
Smitty
If I'm a voter right now, the guy I vote for is Jonathan Smith. I mean Jonathan Taylor. Jonathan Taylor. Last year I vote for Saquon Barkley. The year before that was cmc. None of them won and they all had better seasons than the quarterback.
JB
Right?
Smitty
That. That one. They all were more important to their team than the quarterback was.
Steve Kim
Who won.
Smitty
Oh, you can't tell me that CMC wasn't more important than Purdy. You can't tell me that Saquan wasn't more than Jaylen her told me who had a mid season.
JB
Well yeah, homie, you said then the quarterback who won though, that's why.
Smitty
Oh yeah, I'm. I'm on the team. Jaylen won super bowl. So yeah, I'm just going back to like their quarterback.
JB
I thought you meant like the mvp. More important than Josh Allen was to the build.
Smitty
I like. Yeah, no, no, no, that's kind of not. Well, they had, they. They had Cook, but he didn't really. If I would argue that what you just said though, if you had like if Saquon was in Buffalo and they won, I would, I would give you that argument. I get what you're saying, but now that's why. That's not what I meant. But what I'm saying is if the court. The running back position will never win again is why I want to bring this up. They will never win it again. So why is the quarterback not excluded in this whole thing? Quarterback needs to have its own salary cap and the quarterback needs to have its own mvp. Because I don't believe. Why don't you just come out and say it then? That the running back or wide receiver or anyone else cannot win it.
JB
Right?
Smitty
Like. Like that's what you're telling us. Like why would I want to try to play hard for another position if I can't even win the mvp, like.
JB
You have no shot because if Saquon didn't win last year, then you can't win.
Smitty
That's what I'm saying.
JB
That was the tell test. So I'm with you. I actually agree. I think it should be its own separate award. It should be like the, the NFL QB award. Then it should be MVP and then it should be all the other awards that they already have. But you're right, the MVP award has just changed to a quarterback award. And I, and, and I get it. I understand it's, it's hard to go against a quarterback who's having a good season because we understand that QB is the most important position on the field. So if you had a good season as a quarterback and your team won 13, 14 games, it's hard to choose like a skill position over that person. But I do think there are just outlier seasons in which you just named and listed like if Jonathan Taylor continues on this path that he's on, he should, he should be the mvp. Last year Saquon should have won. Probably. Like you got to think about some of these outlier seasons where like these are historical years that, that you don't see, you know, every single, every single year. So I actually agree with you. But they're not going to change it.
Smitty
I don't know if I have the answer. I don't know if that's the answer or whatever because I know you got an offensive player and you got an offensive MVP and all that, which to me is like a slap in the face award. It's not really the, the, the award like the award is the mvp. The Colts have the two front runners in my opinion, or they just have, they have what we used to call a dual headed Heisman. They have a dual headed type of situation going on.
JB
So I remind me of Reggie Bush and was liner, Liner.
Smitty
Yeah, here's, here's the issue. I don't know what you do and I don't know what you, what you come up with, but quarterbacks need to have its own salary cap and it needs to have its own award in my opinion. Like the quarterback award. Like the best quarterback of the, of the league is what you should. That should be its own thing. Like they can't. And then the MVP in my opinion should be everyone else. That's just what I, I think because right now you've watered it down. Now you're saying basically it's a quarterback driven award only because the running back CMC's year, there's no way that CMC, don't he? If he can't win it during that season, what is it? Two years ago, then there's no one going to win it. No other position. And then Saquon topped that possibly last year and he didn't win it. There's no way. I like they have to figure out.
JB
Something else with your method is like I feel like we're being extreme. So now we're going opposite. So right now only QBs win your magic. QBs can't win. So now I was like, damn, you know when.
Smitty
But you're the best quarterback in the league. That's like a huge thing to me. Like if I'm the best quarterback, it still trumps the best whiteout.
JB
Right?
Smitty
The quarterback. It's still the quarterback though. Like I'm the best QB in the league as an mvp. To, to me, like that's the NFL type of award I want. Then the MVP is the most valuable player. See, the thing is we're not, we're not clarifying. The player and the quarterback are, are like to me two different things. Now I can, I could be Ed Reed and win the mvp.
JB
Right.
Smitty
I'm influential on my team. I lead the team. You're a leader.
JB
Right? Right.
Smitty
I got more picks and touch like all that matters. MVP matters to me. I think the players get a disservice. Like the MVP should be the best player. Like I don't think we're getting the best player. I think we're getting a quarterback.
JB
I like the mindset but. But now I feel like people, people would just look at the quarterback award as the MVP now and then.
Smitty
Look at that. Right now we argue that last two MVPs should have actually wanted the opposite year because we're, we're. It's all based on fans, social media presence, familiarity and popularity. It has nothing to do with actual either a stats down wins or postseason. It has nothing to do with any of those things which should matter to me.
JB
Shouldn't matter. It's regular season. It's regular season. That's where we disagree. It's literally regular season awards like oh he looks so bad in the wild card and it has nothing to do with it. Yeah, in the 17 games that we had, that's the award.
Smitty
Here's the issue though, like what happens is you get injured and again I'm a macro you up, you get injured and you got a guy like Lamar who, who misses three, four games, let's say. But let's say he comes back and he rips it and goes through a playoff run and he ends up getting those games back. You don't get it. You're like to me, I think you, I think you should have an opportunity to show that you A, you can win like Dash has not done and B, put up those numbers in the games you missed and show us you were the mvp. Like I think that is a fair way to go about it, but they won't ever do it.
JB
Jason, and let me macro you is that basically the winning quarterback of the super bowl is going to be the MVP the end of the whole. But they already have a Super bowl mvp. Like for example the, the year the Ravens went on that crazy run, Joe Flacco had a phenomenal playoff run.
Smitty
Yeah. No picks, 14 tubs, 100.
JB
Right. So if we're going by your method, 11.
Smitty
11 tubs, no picks.
JB
Yeah. So if we were going by your method, there's no way that he don't win MVP in that year. But then you go look at the regular season like nah, he, he ain't.
Smitty
No, no, no, no, no. That's not it. Just because you go on a run and win. I didn't say super bowl champs mvp, homie.
JB
Larry Fitz, that year they lost.
Smitty
But Larry's regular season was not great. I'm not going to put him in the MVP of his regular season was shitty. All I'm telling you is if you added the postseason, you get a guy that, like Lamar, who's electric and dominant number wise, he has an opportunity to get his award again still. Because now, now he's missed four games. He's done. Sure, he's done. But yeah, if you, if you let it go through the playoffs and show it. Because at the end of the day we judge you on what win Super Bowls at quarterback. Right. That's what we've kind of been saying in the day.
JB
Yeah.
Smitty
And we knock you like Dak Lamar, all these other guys because they don't win it. Josh Allen, all these guys burrow. So if you're gonna now to me it gives you kind of a fair playing ground. Gives you a chance to do both. I don't know. It ain't gonna happen. I'm just spitballing out there, but I'm just saying I think the quarterback is a popularity vote and I think the MVP is really the guys that are, are guiding getting here. They're not really getting an opportunity to be the mvp. The MVP is usually mostly not the quarterback. I mean, I'm just being honest. It's not the quarterback unless you're just some ridiculous guy like Aaron Rodgers had a few times with those numbers that he had a 2 picks and 35.
JB
Touches pay manning of course he throw.
Smitty
A lot of pick but yeah if you.
JB
Brady has some years like it like.
Smitty
We'Ll get, we'll understand if you're that good. See what I'm saying? Like but if you're the quarterback and you got this mid season that other quarterbacks have better stats than you but yet we know you're getting the MVP because of who you are. To me that's not a real mvp. We need to get rid of that. That's the part I need. That's why I say separate the quarterback. You know what I mean? Then you could have that political discussion about quarterbacks only in their own room. Now is it Josh or Lamar last year. Now you guys go ahead and have that vote. You know what I'm saying? It doesn't matter because Saquon's the mvp. See what I'm saying?
JB
It's a tough conversation because you just, you just named a few minutes ago. Quarterbacks are ranked based upon wins and losses. So that's the one position that we look at and it's like all right, The Bills went 13, 4, the Ravens went 11 and 6. Lamar stats are way better. But he didn't beat the Bills when they played each other and the Bills are the number one seed. And so basically the way I look at it, they. It's like a, it's like a big ass pizza and each slice is a different like category wins against that. But the, the win slice for quarterbacks is like half the pizza by itself.
Smitty
It's the same thing though with, with the awards though like to me like it's just like it is like we've watered down NBA named guys awards now. Now it's a John Barry award. We don't even know the awards are no more.
JB
You got high school championship like Johnson Ward and Larry Bird. I'm not mad at that.
Smitty
Yeah. So you name this like that. But I'm just saying like that's because of high school and everybody gives everybody an award now we live in it. Everybody gets an award. Ass generation. So that's all I'm saying. Smitty, I want to play a game.
JB
Of course we got to get the, the song.
Smitty
I did a show.
Steve Kim
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JB
We gotta get that carrot that sound.
Smitty
I did a show for this, this bunch of nobodies. Oh that I actually like. They're actually. Because they talk. And I was like all right. I like guys that. On business. And I did a radio show for him the other day, and I was like, I don't even know what I was telling. I'm telling you now. Oh, they said. They said, let's play a game. And then he goes. He goes, jb, I know you like to play games. I was trying to make a point that what you said, and I forgot all about. But that's what he was. Hold on. So you just said, of course we want to play a game. Like you just said, of course.
JB
Yeah.
Smitty
Because that on their show, they were like, coach, I know you like to play games. Let's play a game. Oh, okay. So, yeah, that was the point. But anyway, I up the punchlines.
JB
Yeah. What I was saying.
Smitty
Yeah.
JB
Don't you hate that? Because we've all been through there. We keep it real. We've all done that.
Smitty
Yeah. It's been a new game now.
JB
Wow.
Smitty
Dying dead or buried. Yeah, we're gonna do graphics. Baby's gonna make a whole graphic. It's got the graves. It's gonna have guy get pillowed, and then it's gonna have, like, me just kind of dying, like, slowly. Smitty, you got to tell me if they're dying. Are they dead or they already buried? The New York jets go.
JB
Dead, homie. I was the man, homie.
Smitty
See, I. I disagree. I think they're buried the worst one.
JB
You right. Buried on me. Buried on me.
Smitty
The jets are buried, homie. They're. They're beyond dead. They. They've been dead for 46 years.
JB
To me, dead and buried is, like, the same. Like, I'm dead. I'm dead.
Smitty
Yeah, I hear you, but dead means, like, I can come back next year.
JB
Buried like a zombie.
Smitty
Buried. You're. The jets are the most. Yeah. Dying, dead or buried. The Dolphins very damn. Well, let's keep going. The dying dead or the buried? The Tennessee Titans buried Bailey, man. And the dying dead are buried. D. Jones, where you at? The Jags buried Now Smitty's just going now for. Smitty's just saying now he. I. I think the Jags are dying. Smitty.
JB
Jag's been dead for years, and we keep giving them passes and keep giving them life vests because we just believe in the roster. We believe in ETN and long hair Trevor Lawrence, but every year, they keep showing us who they are and we don't believe them.
Smitty
But I'm talking about this particular year, though. Like, they started off good, and Duvall didn't sound as gay as it Once did because they were winning.
JB
And.
Smitty
And that's what it is when he the podium guy that said it. And then this turns into a gangster. He want to fight Salah. They're four and one like this a got a gangster Mark Sanchez in that town. So what they did was what? What they did was now this looks like the on the podium again. D ball get his ass ran through. And the bottom line is the Jags this year now or what? 4 and 3. D. Jones, are you even now? What are you guys recording? What's your shitty record?
JB
There's some I don't even know about.
Smitty
They're dying. They're dying though because see, they're still got a winning record right now. So I can't say you're dead or.
JB
Buried, but you're second in the AFC south.
Smitty
So yeah, you're four and three, sweetie. But they're dying because they've lost. They've lost two in a row. And the Rams just absolutely took your manhood. Put the pillow in your mouth. Take this. What they did, huh?
JB
Huh?
Smitty
Oh no. They got pillowed and soap barred.
JB
Oh, damn.
Smitty
You know about that. If you've been in the pen, you know about that.
JB
I ain't got dying dead or buried, Smitty.
Smitty
The Arizona Cardinals.
JB
Dying.
Smitty
I'm over there. They've been dead. Yeah, they've been dead since the middle men just got there. They've been dead.
JB
No, we talk about this season, homie. Like same concept you did with the Jags.
Smitty
No, I get it. Well, it's shitty still. That's my point. It's like this just continue to be. Not like the Cardinals are four and two dead. I mean, they're shitty.
JB
Two or five homies.
Smitty
Last place.
JB
Last place.
Steve Kim
Yeah.
Smitty
How many?
JB
They're down, homie.
Smitty
Huh? They're dead.
JB
I thought DJ he mad cause I said his team was.
Smitty
They're dead. Smitty, we're gonna play a game later on again.
JB
I want to keep playing games.
Smitty
Not right now though. We're gonna come back to it after Steve Kim, but it's going to be called Finish this. And I got a different name for you. So let's get to the rundown. Shout out to everybody in the chat, pound the like. And Smitty has it from here. I'm chilling.
JB
Okay, well, I'm gonna put a rundown up right now. I'm gonna scroll down and we gonna get straight to it. I mean. I mean we kind of already talked about it a little bit, but would love a little bit more of a of a insight from you on the Lions taking out the Bucks on Monday Night Football. That was the. The first game that we watched. They said the score doesn't fully tell the full picture. It was actually like a solid game. The Bucks had a chance to, you know, to. To make some noise late in the game, but I thought the Lions defense, man, showed up and showed out, was applying pressure on Becker all night long. Becker was throwing the ball high for some reason all night, I guess. What did you see from your quarterback? Your eyes of. Of Baker and just this game in general.
Smitty
They finally played a good team, and that's who Baker is. I don't know why, but what do I know? That's weapons, too, though.
JB
Mike Evans broke his collarbone, man. And now his. His streak of a thousand receiving yards, man, is going in, and I hate to hear it, man. Go ahead, Jason.
Smitty
How do you break his collarbone? Smitty, you break it down because that's shitty ass Baker Mayfield, who I've been saying to y'.
Steve Kim
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Smitty
Shitty, but what do I know? How. How many medicine balls did the throw last night? A booker got a medicine ball twice. He threw the tight end otten on the sideline twice. The turning caught the ball and got blah blah. I was like, God damn, homie, I wouldn't want to catch a ball for that last night for. And Detroit had no secondary. They had G league players out there. And these were getting boom, Basil. Because this like a telegraph. I'm throwing it right there, guys watch.
JB
Me off night, homie.
Smitty
Come on. That's who he is. He's who the we said he was.
JB
That's my problem with you though, Jason.
Smitty
That's who I.
JB
You have preconceived beliefs about players, teams, entities.
Smitty
They preconceived proving you wrong.
JB
You're quiet. Can you moment they have a bad game.
Smitty
Can you please tell me? Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on now. Let's be real. If there's anyone that's real about this Baker situation, homie, I got receipts and proof. And how many times you're the one that's always pushing me to say you don't like Baker yet. You don't like Baker yet. Jb. No, I don't say that though.
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Smitty
Why? But when he does, well, I give him credit. I just said. I just said yesterday on my list, he was on the list. You said finally, jb, you giving Baker some credit. And then guess what? He did you. Because that's who he is. That's who the really is. Like I said, they had to come back four times in the fourth quarter against Carolina, Atlanta, the Jets, like they finally play a team who had some was pissing hot vinegar yesterday after they lost to the Chiefs and the Detroit Lions with a head coach who bites kneecaps off. And he said, let's play a real defense. And that's who Baker really is. Because that's who Baker is when they get to the playoffs. Real truth. Dick Ryder, extraordinaire. Now all of a sudden, you probably a Bucks fan. Where was you last year? Shut up, you fanboys. They're 5 and 2 at the end of the day. Yippee A. Let's see who they have to play. Let's see who they have. Show me their schedule. Max has. You guys talk about schedule with other teams, but the Bucks get a pass now with their five and two schedule, homie.
JB
They put their crease on one cleaning time the same way you do, homie. Knee past thigh pass all that on, homie. Shut up. These NFL players ain't no schedule. This ain't no damn college football SEC versus the Swack, the Mac or whatever. This is NFL, homie. You play who's on your schedule, you control what you. You control. And they five and two. They're doing what they're supposed to do right now, homie. What?
Smitty
Jason, can you address everybody in the chat? No, that. That kind of is something where you just called me because you were like, oh, when he does bad, you on his head. When he does good, you don't say nothing. Can you talk about the chat that does the same thing like every everybody. Real show, though, you gotta address the fact that like, these fanboys come out to closet in the woodworks when their players do good, but when they get. They lose. You mean like trail shitty. You damn don't see him. You damn it. Don't see him like trill.
JB
And then like last two weeks, KCB.
Smitty
Been winning some games. They look good. Hey, he back. He back now.
JB
Yeah, yeah, he talking crazy.
Smitty
I didn't see him for a while when they were 1 and 3 or whatever. But anyway, listen, man, any man, Baker is who he is. He's like a good quarterback to have on a. In a shitty division. Let be real, he's good to have. The Carolina Panthers, the Atlanta Falcons and the. Who's the other shitty team in that division, Tampa?
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Smitty
You gotta be me. That's your division.
JB
Yeah, NFC south, homie.
Smitty
Like Stafford, Cap Lucky. The guy that leads the NFL in passing yards that just threw four more overseas. That guy. You mean that guy that won Super Bowl? Ah, all right, my bad. Anyway, let's move on amicably, man. I'm tired of cooking the chat. Let's move on Smitty amicably because I'm tired of dealing with Baker Mayfield and his overreaction. Because that's what it is. Yeah, you're on his nuts. But then last night, I haven't heard anybody talk about him. He was horrible. That was selling every ball out of bounds.
JB
Yeah.
Smitty
And wonder why best receiver broke his clavicle. See, if I'm the coach, I'm ripping his ass last night because he threw medicine balls all night long like he.
JB
Mike Evans breaking his clavicle on Baker Mayfield.
Smitty
Right? I am just like. I blame the quarterback in the holes. OC Last year when Tank Dell blew his knee out, we talked about that. CJ Strap. I love CJ Strap. I love CJ Stroud. But let's what the OC Put the two whiteouts in position to get hurt every. I remember we broke this down.
JB
I remember that. Yeah.
Smitty
It wasn't just one play either. He did this all the time. Cj. CJ Gotta know too, though. You don't just throw that up there. So. I'm just saying it's the same for Baker Mayfield. Smitty, you just me on my most favorite underrated wideout of all time.
JB
Baker love him. And Mike is like, don't. Don't do that, though.
Smitty
I'm not saying. I'm not saying. Listen, I didn't say those clip. I don't give a. I said. I didn't say those two. I said me, you, me. So I can see this guy break Jerry Rice's record and get a thousand yards for the 12th, 13th consecutive season.
JB
Hold on. Let me ask you this before we move on amicably. You as a quarterback ain't never set your receiver up for failure. No lie.
Smitty
Not really.
JB
Ah. Not really. Which is basically. That means damn near. Which basically means I have as a quarterback. You can't. You can't always predict all that like this.
Smitty
Only time I could. Only time I could even fathom it happening is if I'm. I'm in the. I get hit and the ball goes up. And one of my white house, which I used to tell don't go after those type of balls, homie. You might get up. That's a you problem. And they want to be hero and get blah, blah, blah and do that helicopter. That's on them. I got hit. The ball went up.
JB
You're definitely lying though, because you play in the air where like mothers was really getting bedazzled. And you were. And you were definitely throwing bang eights and safeties were coming over there and cleaning the top off a receiver. I know you were.
Smitty
I didn't throw back at it in. In the one high, though. See, I'm not many times. I mean one high. Guess what we call it off. We run the curl route anyway. Yeah.
JB
Right.
Smitty
In between it. I'll split the safety what happened? Close.
JB
Curl the comebacks, homie. Come back.
Smitty
Middle box clothes, homie.
JB
Check down to my back, homie.
Smitty
Yeah, I got film. Oh, by the way, I cleaned out the shed I showed you. I'm gonna get all that converted to DB Sport. We're gonna be showing you my film. I'm gonna show you how a white throws the ball, homie.
JB
Shout out to your mom. For real, though, because, like, y' all haven't seen this. Oh, my God.
Smitty
What?
JB
Look at the comments, homie.
Smitty
What's up?
JB
Look. So, like, hold on. It's two things here. Number one, he's alive. So shout out to child to be alive. But number two, bro, there's three things.
Smitty
I'm gonna give you a third thing. Go ahead.
JB
Okay, cool. Number two, like. Like, what are you doing, though? Like. Like, who are you? Go ahead.
Smitty
I think his wife did find out all that was true that we let in with. Okay, now he's doing it in spite of. Now he's like, you. I'm the man. I'm still. I'm still dropping hundreds of big Smitty and jb. Like, that's what the guy. Who he is.
JB
For you. I already gave you real life advice and all that. And. And I said, if you're struggling, do not do this. You keep saying it, so I'm assuming you're not struggling. So now, now, now I want to test you real quick because I'm curious. Are you, like, are you a business owner? Are you a CEO? Send a thousand right now. Spend a thousand. No, no, don't, don't. Because you've already sitting over $2,000. So instead of doing 100. 100, 100. Do a thousand. I want to see a thousand on the screen because I'm curious to know who you are, because you might be like, you might be like our, like, show sponsor type. Like, you might be the guy. You might be like, you might be underdog. Like, you might be the head hot showed underdog.
Smitty
So hold on. Maybe, though, he's on the run and these write offs.
JB
Well, either way, do your thing.
Smitty
That over there, writing off YouTube like a.
JB
Oh, like.
Smitty
Spending a BPS you to death. He he. 10,000 right now. Show us you're really that guy.
JB
What I say? What I say, homie?
Smitty
Show us you that like 10,000, homie. Drop 10. 10 racks right now. Like, if you.
JB
If you really him. Stop the bull with the hundred dollars, homie.
Smitty
Yeah, stop teasing us with it. Like, you Nick, you. That's my thousand cuts, homie. Stop. Stop cutting us With Mark Sanchez ass.
JB
Do it expeditionally, homie. Now I appreciate you though. Appreciate you giving me. Stay safe. I can't remember what I was even saying no more. So I'm just move on to the next topic. Toronto Blue Jays, homie came back versus Bailey's Mariners and they're going to the World Series. Man. Give us a full blown baseball breakdown real quick. How you feeling? Our Dodgers Doyers going against the Toronto Blue Jays. Man you got. We got Canada versus The U. S A lot. Got Drake versus Kendrick. A lot of shit's going down right now, man. How you feeling?
Smitty
As soon as the Raleigh hit that home run which I picked him to hit, I was like Mariners about to. I was like cool. Because I'd rather have the Dodgers take a two hour flight north right here to Seattle. Now we gotta go six hours and go across international line. There were tariffs and all kind of shit. I'm like listen that shitty ass national anthem. So like here's the thing. I love can. I love Canadians, especially women.
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Smitty
Some of your women. You got those. You guys got those asses. No, French Canadians that are up in Montreal and Toronto. My favorite women in the world were in Toronto. God damn.
JB
They're really nice people though. Seriously, I'm not trying to be funny. I have some like, you know, teammates, people I went to ball state with. They're just really nice people.
Smitty
Yeah, and Pedro Guerrero. I mean Vlad Guerrero. Pedro's. Guerrero's a. Vlad. Vlad. Vlad. Vlad's son. It was born in Canadian in Canada. Oh yeah. So Guerrero was born in Canada because of his dad was a lot of bits up there and. And so like a lot of has happened and can't wait to see see our president Donald Trump sitting in Canada, man. Maybe with Trudeau or something and Beyonce.
JB
They might not. They might not let them know. They might not let them. Respectfully.
Smitty
They can't stop them take country over.
JB
I'm saying like if I'm running the country, this ain't got nothing to do with whose side you know. But if I'm running the country and the person who runs the other country been talking and we. We not really in alignment, I'm not gonna have them just in my backyard. It's comfortable. Like you gotta check in. You gotta check in.
Smitty
No, you're not. It's street. You act like, you act like. You act like there are like little baby like ally like they're not. Let them, let them say we're not going to be ally no more. Then let's see. Let's See, then I bet you they won't do that. Smitty.
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I bet you they not. I bet you they need the. They holding out to our coattail like a motherfucker. Please, Donald Trump, come on and watch this World Series with us.
JB
Like, you. You look at our country like the way you looked at like gang banking. Like, yeah. Your energy, like, yeah. You see how excited you just got? Like.
Smitty
Like, you know, my dad was military, my brother's military. I grew up military family. So I'm like, hell, yeah, we're the like all that. Like you even said, like we're supposed to be the even when the. What you call it's coming in, like in 30 days. The. The alien aircraft told me the MS, MS.13s or whatever. When that rolls in, homie, you said we used to smoke it, so I don't think we can smoke it. I think it's going to eliminate everybody. But we'll see. We'll see what happens. Maybe independence day happens or something. And maybe Will Smith comes back out to woodwork and gets his son drop his nuts, take off that box on his head and then, you know, make him drop his nuts. I'm saying maybe it turns holly weird back into Hollywood, homie.
JB
Yeah, I see, homie, a lot of conspiracies going on right now. Expecting a great series though, nevertheless. And after the Dodgers win, me and you gonna go downtown. We're gonna stream live on Patreon. We're gonna just turn up because I, I used to live downtown, so I was downtown when the Lakers won in the pandemic. It was insane. I was down there when the Dodgers won the same year. It was insane. The whole streets were flooded.
Smitty
I've been down there when the kings won and kings lost. And no matter what, we ride it.
JB
I love that, homie.
Smitty
You all do.
JB
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Smitty
Y' all love that. Y' all love the riot.
JB
I got a picture of me and my homie juja. I have on my Kobe jersey. He had on the shack jersey at the Lakers one, homie. So, but, you know, we'll see. Let's get to the main topic of the first let's get to the main topic of the first hour, homie.
Smitty
Man.
JB
Dolphins head coach Mike McDaniel says that Tua will be the starting QB this week and his expectation is that they will not throw 10 picks. Check this out.
Smitty
He didn't really say that.
JB
Yeah, he's gonna take the snaps this.
Smitty
Week and he's gonna their start of this week.
Sheldon Day
And my expectation is that we don't throw 10 picks.
JB
I didn't hear nothing he really said. He said my expectation going to this game is that, that we won't, um, throw ten, um, picks. Um, that's what he said. So he's trying to be like a smart ass, basically saying, I'm not going in with no expectations. I don't want to put no added pressure on my quarterback because my pressure, my quarterback cannot handle pressure. He's soft and weak. Minded on the football field. So I'm gonna go in and say that we won't throw 10 picks, throwing out an absurd number that, you know, two is not going to do to make him feel as comfortable and as loose as possible. Hoping that that will motivate him in some way. So it's, it's not. Listen, we've said it numerous, numerous, numerous times. Michael Daniel is not a good leader. He's smart, he knows offense, but he's not a leader. The team does not want to fight for him. We're seeing that on the football field. We're seeing low ever effort from the team. We're seeing leadership reflects leadership. We're seeing his leadership style wash down the tour. And Tua is even probably a worse leader than Michael Daniel. Oh my damn, bro. My mama always said money don't grow on trees. I bet it different because I'm straight up picking homie. Gabby, I don't know what you're doing, homie. I'm concerned. Can you doubt a number? 1, 800.
Smitty
Hoping why?
JB
Hoping why? Because you got a problem now. Like, I appreciate the money but I also, like, I'm nervous. Like I don't want, like are you, are you a gamer? Like, are you the mob, homie? You like you, Jeff Nadu and him, like, like what's going on? Like, I'm nervous. Like I'm just paranoid. Anyway, I'm gonna say the last thing. You said it earlier. Mike McDaniel and Tua are perfect for each other. The problem with that is you don't grow in comfort. Every time I've grown as a player, as an athlete, it was time when I was uncomfortable, when coach was getting after me, when I was leaving practice, kind of pissed off and, and upset with myself because I didn't feel like I, I looked my best or I didn't make my coaches proud. And that would often light a fire underneath me that would force me. It's like either make it or break it. It's either, it's either. You know what I'm saying? It's either goddamn ball or, or fall. And a lot of times I would do, I would go out there and ball out and I would get better and I would, I would improve. But when I was comfortable, I would kind of stay the same. And a lot of times you, my coach always say you, you either get better or you get worse. You don't really stay the same. So a lot of time I feel like I would get worse. I feel the same things happening with two and Mike McDaniel they're cut. He's comfortable. Two is too comfortable.
Sheldon Day
Yeah.
JB
There's no leadership. There's no.
Smitty
Yeah. It's like. It's like. Yeah, it's like I throwing Shady Man. Like, it's just. It's comfortable being uncomfortable. Huh?
JB
Who?
Smitty
Oh, I showed Shady cut off the show the other day. I listen, I don't think this dude's insane. I didn't hear nothing this guy said because he's a weirdo and he's an absolute baby voice little boy. And I don't like his crooked foot and I don't like his vape. I don't like his pants. I like his demeanor. I don't like his body type. I don't like his glasses. I don't like anything this guy's about. He does not suppose. He's not supposed to be around men at all whatsoever. He's supposed to be around little boys in a good way, not in a bad way, hopefully. And he needs to be coaching or analyzing, like high school football. That's who this guy is.
JB
He probably will be a hell of a high school coach.
Smitty
I doubt it. No, I'm serious. Because high school is even harder, in my opinion. Like, you're set with NFL soccer in high school. You gotta go get players to come on over and retain them so they don't leave. No. You think he's retaining a hood kid?
JB
You're right.
Smitty
Come on.
JB
But maybe if he was at like one of those Catholic schools, though, you imagine.
Smitty
See, that's the thing about it. This is what I've been saying to you for a lot of years now. When you anoint guys and you put them as a coordinator on a titled job title, meaning you don't call the plays as he did, not in Frisco, but everyone. Oh, he called the players like Eric Minami. But anyway, what do I know when I say they don't, but when you title them guys ocs, look what happened. No offense, I grew up Eric. Minnie. What's happened to Eric since? What's happened to guys that get these jobs that are title coordinators and then they just get a head job because the fucking owner and GM is so fucking retarded that they don't realize this guy don't call plays and has never managed a room in totality. And you hire him as your leader and look at that. Look what it's doing. But here's the big point about. It's been the big macro. What happens this when he gets fired here. See, that's the problem. You don't ever hear from these again because everyone now seen the cat is out the bag. You're shitty. You'll never be a head coach again. A B, you may not be a coordinator again because now we know you can't control the room, the quarterback room, the highest paid positions room, the guy that you have to get from point A to point B room. You can't do it. So now we're not going to hire you there. So the only job you're going to get is a nepotism hire. Shannon has to bring you back as like, as a homie hire. Is that just a straight homie hire? And that's the problem with these, that's the issue what I've been saying. That's why you don't give these title coordinators these jobs. They cannot do it. You can't even be a real coordinator. At least Kevin o' Connell actually understood it by breaking it down from a player standpoint. Kevin O' Connell played the position in the NFL. He played for, he coached for McVeigh, came through that route, actually got his hands dirty because he knows the position by playing the position. And now this guy is known for what, 7 on 7 in skinny jeans on a film we showed like this played a Yale homie. So like we gotta stop, we gotta stop annoying these guys many because it's setting us up for failure at the end of the day. Setting up the players, the kids in college, the players in the NFL or the coach himself.
JB
I'm not saying he should not coach. I mean the guy worked his way up. It's not like he just was just, you know, he just got this job. He's. He was a small fish in, in the big sea and worked his way. I get all that. But he shouldn't be a head coach.
Smitty
You know me, I disagree with all that. I don't think he did at all.
JB
I think he could be a receiver coach.
Smitty
Man, he didn't work his way up. I know. I know a million guys that worked their way and got this guy got. He, he got through the system by being knowing somebody.
JB
He was small coaching, like what was it with Washington and. Or whatever.
Smitty
Yeah.
JB
You know what I'm saying?
Smitty
My point is how did he get there? Because see, that's the thing. It comes back to who knows you and who you know. He didn't work for it. He knew somebody.
JB
But we all know somebody though.
Sheldon Day
Jason.
Smitty
No, not really.
JB
We do though. Like, like in the, in the professional world, somebody's gonna help you along the way to Some extent. That don't mean you didn't bust your ass. Like, I always use my example, like getting that fox. Like, yeah, I had. I had to. Somebody had to look out for me. But that would mean I was gonna busted my ass and put myself in a position to even be thought of as a candidate for it.
Smitty
But you missed a big picture.
JB
You know what I'm saying?
Smitty
You can bust your ass all you want if he. If Whitlock don't get you in there, you're busting your ass for what?
JB
Something else, Right? Yeah. No, but you're right.
Smitty
No, you're right, homie. You didn't act like you just dressed. Yeah, my daddy busted his ass for 50 years he didn't make right.
JB
But Jason, this is where me and you differ. And you're. You're not a God fearing man. And this is why I bring this into it. I do.
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Huh?
JB
You're not. This is where the special is. My spiritual side come in.
Smitty
I do think boys confident.
JB
You treat people right. And when you bust your ass and you. And you pray for what you. What you desire, things happen. No, that's. You know, non believers will think I'm crazy, but when I look at my life, that's what has transpired. So all I'm saying is hard work. You got to still work hard to get somewhere. But sometimes you need help. If. If you didn't. If you didn't bring Bailey on, then we'll never know what Bailey would have been capable of. But now we look back, we see. That's what I do, though.
Smitty
That's what I do.
JB
You had. You had no idea who baby was before, but that's what I do.
Smitty
No, I do.
JB
Now he's busting that he's got.
Smitty
So you're.
JB
You're either opportunity I got.
Smitty
I gotta teach you youngsters so much. Yeah, like that again. The two hires I made. The two hires I made.
JB
Marcellus told you, though.
Smitty
No, I asked Marcellus now.
JB
He told you.
Smitty
Remember that?
JB
Y' all having a conversation?
Smitty
He said, Marcellus didn't call me, though. I called Marcellus and said, hey, what's up with this?
JB
No.
Smitty
You know DI Darnell Smith?
JB
No, no, that's.
Smitty
That's how it went down.
JB
I told him. I said. He said y' all were on the phone, just catching up. You were talking about, man, I need a calls, man. Doing this like solo was tough. And he said, man, I don't know, man, if you know my guy, man. I love this guy, though. Darnell, I'm not Sure. What he's doing right now, great energy, great kid. Hit him up. He might be something.
Smitty
Let me break. Let me break it down.
JB
That's what Marcel told me verbatim.
Smitty
Let me break it down. This is the reason I have 13 guys currently coaching D1 that I hired at Indy, three at Oregon alone. I think I know who the to hire. That's kinda you. So you're basically saying I've just been lucky as my whole life hiring guys. That's what you're saying.
JB
Not your whole life. I ain't gonna say that.
Smitty
Well, I'm just telling you I actually know what the I'm doing. There's people that know what they're doing and people get lucky and then there's people that have no clue what they're doing.
JB
So what about your last co host, the girl? The girl who you refer to as upside down. Why didn't that work?
Smitty
I shot it. I shot in the dark. I was like, maybe I'd be a titty the or something. I threw it out there in the dark, homie. Like, I was just trying to, you.
JB
Know, I mean, it's okay.
Smitty
Well, no, I was. I said it live when I fired her. Right? Live on the show.
JB
What about all these Instagram influencers that used to have coming on our show that don't know football at all? Who? You tell me.
Smitty
Who's Instagram influencers?
JB
Oh, you tell me.
Smitty
Oh, well, we. That's what I'm saying. We had all that, but I made a decision to say, hey, no, I don't want to do that no more.
JB
Yeah, no more. But you brought it on. So that means.
Smitty
Yeah, because.
JB
You learn from mistake.
Smitty
Nah, it's part of the stepping stones. Like you got to make these steps. You got to get these guys on there. Influencer.
JB
At the end of the day, no matter how hard you think you are, no matter how independent you think you are, we all need help to some degree at some step of the way, at some point. You need somebody to be. You need somebody to believe in you and give you a chance. Ball State had. They saw me, they saw my feelings. These guys undersized. He's not that big, you know what, but it's some about him, man. You know what? We're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna trust them. We're gonna give him a chance. And then I proved him right. But you gotta get a chance.
Smitty
So we just blew through commercial. Nobody told me nothing.
JB
Yeah, we can do it now.
Smitty
So you didn't even mention anything We've.
JB
Been having a good debate. I mean it's a good show. It's a four hour show.
Smitty
I didn't even know it was 706. I had no idea. 706, you have to piss or not. Like I'm six minutes past my coffee break. I'm six minutes past, you know, feeding the dogs. I'm six minutes past taking my walk around the block real quick.
JB
Well, you're wasting time right now that we could be breaking because as soon Steve gonna jump in and when Steve jump in, we can't go to break. Steven still gets pissed when he like we bring him in late.
Smitty
Well, he don't come in until for a few minutes. So yeah, let's take a quick break. Piss break. Let me give me my coffee. Steve Kim's right around the corner and oh my goodness, Miami Hurricane talk.
JB
Let's bring up what Mel Kuiper said this morning on get up on espn. Jamie's going to love this. Check it out.
Steve Kim
Get up from there.
Smitty
Now that we've sort of set the.
Steve Kim
Table and for exactly what your problem is with it, how would you try and solve it?
Smitty
Well, I grew up with the best of the National Football League 6,070s into the 80s. You're talking about deep shots, right? The go route, the nine route post. You're talking about Terry Bradshaw in a Super bowl hitting John Stallworth. You see Leroy Irvin diving right just off his finger. There's the receiver that laid it out there, right? Hit the receiver in stride. 65 yard touchdown. It's a beautiful thing to watch. That's what I want to see brought back to the National Football League. Okay, check down Kings bubble screen sensations, boring football game manager, I get it. But I want to see those deep shots. That's what the NFL was built on. I grew up with John Unitis, Fran Tarkington, Ken Stabler, Daryl Lamotica. You know, you talk about quarterbacks. Joe Namath, it was just right. Brett Favre when he was doing what he did. Burt Jones with the Baltimore Colts. You think about those quarters. Quarterbacks who would throw the ball down the field. I'd say what Bradshaw did was Stallworth and swat Roger Staubach, that's what I want to see brought back. Say, well, you can't do that, right? Well, you got a five yard rule with the, the cornerbacks, right? The melt blunt rule, right now with the push thing with Hertz, you got to be a yard back now. So don't tell me you can't have those safeties closer to the line of scrimmage than they are. I was at games where I'm thinking, hey, too high. They're out in outer space too.
Steve Kim
I couldn't even find.
Smitty
I said they're playing with nine guys, right? Where are the other two? Oh, the other two. They're so daggone far back. And even though they're part of damn play, I'm telling you, we got to change this thing and we got to have. Hey, you can warn them enough, they come up, hey guys, you got to get up a little bit, right? You're too far back. Warn those safeties. But you got to figure out competition committee, somebody, Dano, somebody's got to figure out what that depth is. But it's too far back right now the NFL is being ruined by these two high safeties. I'm dying, homie. Watching that espn, dog.
JB
Yeah, I know I argue with JB a lot, but not on this one. Not on this one.
Smitty
There's no way, homie that that was just said.
JB
That was just saying, homie.
Smitty
There's no way that was said.
JB
That was just it, homie. He said they gotta do a. They gotta make a rule to where the rest will force the safeties to be closer to the line of scrimmage. So we can see more deep throughout the big time play than he used to see when he was growing up in the 70s and 80s, homie. That I can't even as a defensive player, homie. I can't even begin to think of how to respond to that, baby.
Smitty
Can you take me to the board?
JB
We back jb, man. Talk to him. What's on your mind right now? What's going through your head after watching that clip of Mel Kiper.
Smitty
Damn, I don't even know what it began, dog. I don't even want to yell or nothing, man. This is so dumb. Like the big. You don't believe me though? The fake agendas that get pushed Milk hyper saying to take the safety. Who sits right here at 10 to 12 yards. Normally they're saying that's too deep. So now we have to cater to the offense even more. Move them up here. And it has to be a referee behind him. Get up, move up. So now you want the safety that 5 yard milk hyper, you idiot. Never been right on a draft yet. You said Ryan Leaf was the guy.
JB
You.
Smitty
Now we want safety that 5 yards so you could throw a post to Stallworth in 1967 you2 bay wearing holy. You guys on ESPN are man. Now we have to dictate to the quarterback and quarterback, please, I know we're all so shitty, but let's blame cover two mean the fucking times. You fucking idiot. Dan Orlovsky. You should have came on my show, motherfucker. You fucked me. You don't know shit either sitting there in them tight ass skinny jean pants.
JB
You fucks.
Smitty
You motherfuckers don't know football. Get me on there, motherfuckers. You been fucked. Hey, well it. I'll go home tonight, I'll drink my yak and smoke my stick and I'll get it back crappy. Yeah, we back on me back in the building. And our main man right out of the the mud. He just flew over to Miami. Came back after a devastating loss to the hurricane nation. Our main man, co host of Whitlocks Fearless 3 knockdown rule Mario Lopez Green Coastal himself. Our main man Steve Kim joins on a Tuesday. What's going on? What up? What up? What up man?
JB
Good. How you doing?
Steve Kim
Fine. The yearly crystal ball.
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Yeah.
Smitty
First thing I thought of, I was at Weddell. I was watching what I was at the game watching with Weddle and it was before the game and I'm like, Steve's there. Weto's like, how's Steve? He's at the game, huh? I go, yeah.
Sheldon Day
And we're.
Smitty
And he's about to kick off there and I'm like, I'm like, they're losing their game, about to be over. He's like, what? I go, yeah. I go, this is the normal crystal ball though. That's the first thing Wet on. I said there's gonna be a game. Is that what you took away from it?
Steve Kim
Well, this is an alarming stat and I believe it's about 10 games because if you go back to the start of last November, Miami was 90 to now, which we're now 5 and 1. So that's a period of about what, 10 games. They've lost three as double digit favorites.
JB
That's crazy.
Smitty
ACC.
Steve Kim
I, I'm a crystal ball guy. I defend the guy. I believe he's doing a good job. But we're gonna lay out the facts here. You lost at home to a double digit favorite again. This is not the first time it's happened.
Smitty
By the way, how much credit do you give Brahm for being kind of a giant killer, isn't he? He's like unbelievable. Him and him and Deborah are the number one and two in the nation against ranked opponents.
Steve Kim
Rom coached his ass off from the very beginning. And this is something that I preach. And I said the Kane's insight to Danny Money and Peter, Ariz. Do not get caught up in establishing the run. I'm so sick. We gotta establish the run. Hey, guys, you can establish a lot of points and then run the ball later.
Smitty
That's what Bill Walsh always said.
Steve Kim
Bill Walsh always said, I am never establishing a run. What I'm going to do is score a lot of points early, then I'll run the ball late, and I'm going to rush the passer when I make you one dimensional. By the end of the third quarter, first 12 carries that Miami had, 26 yards. Louisville comes out of the gate with the quick game. And I'm thinking, guys are going quick game. They're going to neutralize our front four. So we got to start pressing and rerouting and get hands on guys and disrupting and our defensive linemen got to get their hands up. None of that really happened. It was 14 nothing, 10 minutes in. And I said, here we go. Here we go.
JB
Miller. Moss. Miller. Moss.
Steve Kim
Look, they protected Moss really well, and then Chris Bell didn't have an answer for him. And then Isaac Brown's speed and explosiveness was really an issue. But this is the reality now for Miami. Given the way the ACC standings are and the schedule, I don't think Georgia Tech's gonna lose a game. They're gonna go undefeated. So that's one spot in the ACC title game. Uva, their loss to NC State is not a conference game. Guys. There's a scheduling quirk. I. I think there's a good chance they may not lose a game. So Miami could be the third team and being left out. But if they win every game, given the ranking.
Smitty
Yeah.
Steve Kim
Given that they're ninth in the country still.
Sheldon Day
Yeah.
Steve Kim
And they have some decent wins early on. You go 11 and one, you'll be an at large. Now, you lose the bye week and you pro and you lose all that other stuff. But again, you make the playoffs, it's a good year. You go 11 1. It's a good year. It's where Mario is moving this thing forward. But I keep saying about crystal ball, Mario, you have to win the routine games in routine fashion. I read a stat that nick Saban after 2007, he was like 94. 0 against unranked opponents after ULL loss.
Smitty
Yeah. Right.
Steve Kim
So I'm like, wow, Mario. I mean, yeah, Mario loves to preach physicality.
JB
Supposed to win, you know.
Smitty
You know what, Steve, not to get too macro here, but I've said this before about other players or other guys, other teams. I'm not a believer in O line coaches as head coaches. I'm just not. I love him as a recruiter and as a gritty, nasty O line guy. Like to your point, physicality, get the players that you want on your team, your mentality, all that is crystal ball. I love Chris Ball too, knowing him personally. Head coaching though, man, you can see the in game strategy where he kind of loses to superior minds. When it comes to head coaching, I'm not talking about recruiting, I'm not talking about players nastiness. All that Miami has is because of him, but also the in game strategy of a guy like quarterback and Braum who I played for, I played for the Louisville Fire for him in the Arena Football League. Great dude, smart as a whip. Now, well, you know, one thing about.
Steve Kim
Braum, the great Bum Phillips would say he can take his and be yours and take yours and beat his. Yeah, that is the mark of a coach. And here's another thing about Crystal Ball being an O line coach and Alex Mirabelle who's a great assistant. You know, we've had about 17 or 18 pre snap penalties, false starts procedures on the offensive line. Well, the people are shifting, they're doing. And I'm like, hey guys, I, I get it. For one game we get tripped up on it six games in. If a little bit of movement up front disrupts you that bad, you may not be the guy we need out there. I hate to say that, but 17 is too many for one season.
Smitty
Here's the issue.
Steve Kim
In four games, here's the issue.
Smitty
When you're the O line coach again, you're hands on with the O line as Mario is, you're teaching kind of what you see with the Eagles and Tush push, we're rolling starting that we're an O line guy. I'm gonna give you every intricate cheating point there is to O line play, which Mario knows, being in Alabama, being all these places, he's teaching the O line to be nasty, physical, and we're gonna jump the snap, we're gonna get off. And what happens when you're the head coach and O line guy is what you're seeing. You're gonna have 27 false starts because that's what he teaches, which is a good and a bad thing. It's a double edged sword unfortunately. But listen, I've always been against O line coaches as head coaches. I just don't believe them. I don't believe in them. At the end of the day, I, I think you can do great because most online coaches that I know that are good ones are the best recruiters on the set.
Steve Kim
That's what he does. Well, we had a third and two, and all of a sudden, flag ruined.
Smitty
I was like, oh, God.
Steve Kim
We had a one drive, first and 15 right off the bat. And I'm like, mario, you're an offensive line coach.
Smitty
This.
Steve Kim
I'm not asking you to be Bill Walsh. I'm asking you to bring me a fundamentally sound team coming off a buy I like Rom. If Braum was not a Louisville alum, the University of Kim. If I needed a football coach, he would always be there. There's a theory that every athletic director has a sheet of paper that if something happens to their head coach, that they have something in their drawer, they open it up. That, all right, who's my emergency list that I need to make a run at? He'd open.
Smitty
Always be. It's the fan favorite. It's the fan favorite list. When you're, when you're, when you're playing your wife, you got a fan favorite list too. To get through. To get through when you're bored.
Steve Kim
Well, that, that, that, that, that went a whole different direction.
JB
See, I do want. Staying on this, though. I do want to ask you about. About your quarterback, your leader, Carson back. Man, he would do 4 picks. Didn't have.
Steve Kim
Should have been 5y.
JB
But his post game presser to me was more alarming than anything. We got the video here. Can we play it? I haven't seen this last play, that last interception. Were you not expecting that defender to be there? They're running that kind of sim pressure and they're popping out at the snap.
Smitty
I thought this was Anakin Skywalker. I mean, we have a perfect play for it. We just, we had a miscommunication with the, with the route and what we were doing. So. Yeah, just. Just sort of ran the route wrong and I went to go throw it because we're hot off of a pressure and again, it. He made a good play on it, so. But it definitely didn't help that we ran the wrong play.
JB
Oh, he said, he said, like, he said the same thing, like three times.
Steve Kim
Yeah, I mean, people are kind of saying that he threw Elijah Lofton under the bus.
JB
He did, Steve. I'm sorry.
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He did.
JB
You don't do that.
Steve Kim
Well, no other people saying he got taken out of con. I don't know. But here's the thing. Then Shannon Dawson said, God, I should have called a timeout to make sure. I'm like, well, coach, you should have done it then. I mean we had two timeouts, I believe at that point I don't know what to say except he imploded. I mean, a couple of the plays. Louisville made some nice plays on the ball, but you're not gonna win games when you throw four interceptions. And worse than that, he looked jittery in the pocket. But I'll tell you this, if all we're gonna do is that duo inside rugby run against nine man fronts where people going barefront and they're mugging, right? I'm like, guys, we gotta throw the ball on early downs. I think jb, you could tell it better than we can. The toughest way to play quarterback is run run. Oh, it's third nine.
Smitty
Oh yeah.
Steve Kim
Toughest way to play quarterback.
Smitty
Yeah, we, yeah, you can't predict. You can't be predictable. Here's the issue I have with this deal. I'm not mad Smitty anymore. If you throw a guy under the bus, if you played well, if you playing shitty, shut the up. And here's why. Back in the day, I would say never throw a guy under the bus if you played well or not. Now though, we're nil, Smitty, right? You ran the wrong route. We gave you 500 grand. Now it's time to get out the pot. I, I would teach my guys again. Goes back to coaching now. Because now the coaching game has been totally flipped upside down and changed. If we're in nil, and I expect you to be where you're supposed to be and you get paid to be there, throw my ass under the bus. But if not, Carson Beck, if you threw four picks, one drop, five, shut the up. Because you were right the whole night and you lost the game because of what your performance was. But I think there's a double edged sword here. I think you should start calling out. You get paid be where I'm supposed to throw the football and if I up, then I'll own it and be humble as the quarterback and the leader. I think there's two things now that you gotta own it.
JB
Then you throw four picks. I don't care.
Smitty
He shouldn't have said, should have said.
Steve Kim
Well look, they play Stanford and I, I looked at those points, but it's like 29 to 30 and I'm thinking, oh no, I don't know.
JB
I just saw Stafford get a win.
Steve Kim
I keep telling people blowouts matter and these fans, I said, well, we won. Then if you're just going by result and you're not looking ever at process, you show me a Team that wins every game by 30.
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540. Like the way Ohio State is. I'm telling you, that's better than the team that keeps winning by three. It's like in boxing. Give me that guy that butchers people, that tears up a guy's head off. Fifth round knockout, fourth round knockout. Eighth round knockout, first. But a guy squeaking by and getting hit too many times himself. I know which fighter is better generally. And Miami, I, I think they do a poor job of finishing games. We don't play great complimentary football. And this whole notion we're going to be physical early. No, be productive early. Be physical late. I, I just hate what I'm saying. Oh my God, it's three nothing. But I love the physicality that we have. Coach. I hate the offense we have. He actually said that the year that we played North Carolina State at Carter Finley, that's when Tyler Van Dyke had the yips. So we went really conservative. And I don't actually blame him, but in the halftime interview he tells espn, well, I love the physical violence we're bringing. And I'm like, coach, we can bring points too.
JB
Right?
Smitty
See how long. What year is this for Crystal ball four. So you, I know you said that you like the way they're trying.
Steve Kim
Well, but I just wonder, is there a ceiling to the way we play? We played a slow tempo. We don't maximize a lot of things. Look, if you're a good team, you want as many plays as possible because over time your talent's going to take over.
Smitty
And now you're in a. I mean, it's always been a result oriented business, but now you're in a. You got you. We want it now. We, we the collectives and all these other players. We're firing James Franklin and he wins 10 a year. We're firing guys that you got to win now. I don't know.
Steve Kim
He's protected. He's got the Columbus High School mafia behind him. He's got unprecedented support financially. But he's also been given more resources than any coach. Now look, yeah, over Miami has to set some good habits against. If they Win. They win on Saturday, Coach. And I'll be there 31:10. I'm gonna be like, we got a problem. We have a problem. If that. If that's all you're gonna do is win 3110. We have a real issue because now we're going to smu. I'll be at that game. That's right. There is going to be one of our tougher games because Stanford's offense is now beginning to rum hum a little bit and operate efficiently and they're scoring points. They have an athletic quarterback. That's a game we gotta think we need 35 to 38 points. Let's not screw around here. I don't like any. Any coach today that's at a school like Miami with the athletes you can get. If your whole goal is just to win 27:14, you're gonna get tripped up. Your margin for air thins a little bit. State. I'm watching this game at Duffy's. I'm at Duffy's. Old Duffy's Tavern. What a place. That's a place where everyone knows your name. It's the chairs of Miami. And I'm with Peter Ariz. I'm watching the game. Shout out to Peter. He's doing his own show right now. And I'm watching Ohio State. How machine like they are. It is just.
Smitty
And they got a new quarterback too, by the way.
Steve Kim
Julian. You know what I'm saying? They're opening up the offense for him vertically now. They are now taking shots to bring more liberal on open downs. And I'm thinking to myself that team might actually be, believe it or not, better than last year's.
JB
You know the crazy thing, Steve, like nobody's really talking about Ohio State like in terms of like even on our show. We're not. We haven't talked about them that much. A lot of the mainstream media because it's like they're so good and they're just dominating.
Steve Kim
Well, Texas, turns out it's not that great of a win. But they've had. They haven't had any high profile games as of yet post Texas.
JB
Yep.
Steve Kim
But Julian saying is not the athlete of Will Howard. You don't want to do a lot of that. Plus one, you want to protect him. But his ability to slice and dice and to throw the ball and to really maximize a guy like Carnell Tate and certainly Jeremiah Smith. His best football is right in front of him.
Smitty
He has the best two whiteouts in America that I'm not.
Steve Kim
There's no doubt about it.
Smitty
I Watch them. They're both, they're their best.
JB
Phenomenal.
Steve Kim
Yeah, Carnell Tate would be the number one receiver on 125 other teams across the country, by the way, guys, so I'm at this other place. The bright side, later that night, man, Arch Manning was bad.
Smitty
I mean, clubbing.
Steve Kim
Well, Duffy's is an old school. Bright side is a sports bar.
JB
Luke, you the man of Miami, boy. Throwing money.
Steve Kim
Arch Manning is bad. Texas got outplayed by Kentucky and Mark Stoops. You cannot be Texas up front. You can run a bootleg from the 1 inch line. That thing was wide open in that first overtime. But Arch Manning, all the progress he might have made against Oklahoma, Coach, he went 10 steps backwards again.
Smitty
See, I didn't see no progress versus Oklahoma. See, that's the difference. I'm just telling you the guy is bad. I don't understand why we keep having this conversation. Because he's horrible. And 167 yards of total offense. I had never seen Stark muster that low of an offense. And it wasn't his fault.
Steve Kim
Coach, I'm just telling you, that's what I'm saying.
Smitty
If the quarterback can't manipulate or, or, or execute what's called, then we all look shitty as coaches. I used to walk in there and hey, look at this dog. That motherfucker's wide open. But it's my fault, right? How about this dog? Why open but it's my fault, right? I didn't call the right play, right? So the media. You didn't throw it. And that's why I used to say on Netflix, I can make the throw. I, I'm just telling you, make the throw. Make the, make the head coach. Hey, how, how's Nico looking when you see LA's offense now?
JB
Hello.
Steve Kim
Looks serviceable. Hey, by the way, there's this YouTuber who's a big Texas fan. His name is Jared Johnson. He does some of the funniest videos.
Smitty
And I got, I gotta link this.
Steve Kim
One, I gotta put it up on Twitter. His title, because he, he is not an Arch Manning fan. He does not have burnt orange goggles on. And his title kept screaming after the Kentucky game. Arch Manning is piping Hot ass Water.
JB
Damn.
Steve Kim
And that's the best way to put it.
Smitty
He fit all that on the thing.
Steve Kim
Hot ass water. And the way he says it is hilarious. But yeah, Arch, guys, you were better off with Quinn Ewers. You Texas fans could not wait to get rid of the mighty cube.
Smitty
There's no way you can sit here and tell me right now, 167 yards and you're telling me that that's the guy? I'm just telling you. Let me ask you this. I, I have a serious question. I've been waiting to get this question out. So you, I'm glad you're here because I was gonna ask Minnie. Yes. Who's the, who's the Heisman winner? Thank you. Right now my ballot would be.
Steve Kim
My ballot though. My ballot.
Smitty
I don't have a ballot.
Steve Kim
Ty Simpson would be on my ballot by default.
Smitty
Got it. Diego Oralette Pavia would be on my ballot by default.
Steve Kim
Haynes the king.
JB
Come on now.
Smitty
I would have love from Notre Dame.
JB
They, they didn't hit him the ball off enough. He's not getting enough carry Latin out of the pass game. Yeah, but I.
Smitty
He gotta be Smitty. He's. He's the best back in football.
JB
He is the best back. I just think they haven't utilized them.
Smitty
Here's the problem, just from a year ago though when we had guys like Ashton Genti and, and Travis Hunter, you know, in this conversation. Oh man, generational, blah blah blah. And it's kind of been going downhill for a while. I've been saying it, but now you go from last year, just a year ago to now and we don't know who the guy is because football's so shitty. Quarterback play is so bad across America, we don't even know who the Heisman is no more because the Heisman's shitty. There's no, there's no clear cut Heisman winner no more. And, and I'm just being honest. If Alabama were to lose a couple of these last games, he, Ty Simpson would be out of the mix too. Now they're winning. So guess what? By default this guy's winning. He's. Now he's the best quarterback.
JB
I look good though.
Smitty
Well, no, I'm just saying. Yeah, I get it. But what I'm saying is if he would have lost to Vandy or would have lost the.
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Steve Kim
My fourth guy, though, I'm kind of exactly. Crickets Fernando Mendoza.
Smitty
Exactly, exactly.
JB
Reuben.
Smitty
Put Reuben on there. Put a little bunny on there too. Or whatever his name is. Back bunny or whatever.
JB
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Steve Kim
All right, let's take a look at the best and the worst of week eight. We got to be honest, but I'm trying to Use variance. Trying to get everyone's a little bit of love. I don't really want to put anyone more than once before the halfway part of the year, but we've reached the halfway part of the year. Here we go. The good I gotta give Arizona State credit. They did the Under Armour. They protected their house against the big bad bully of the Big 12, Texas Tech. Kenny D got his quarterback back. Sudden Sam Levitt became a different team. They nearly blew it, but dramatically they won the game and they stayed in the thick of the Big 12 race. Now I still think Texas Tech is the best squad overall, top to bottom, but Kenny Dillingham once again rallied the troops and Arizona State is becoming a very good road team. That is one of the foundations of being a solid program. Win at home consistently. Number two, Jeremiah Love got up to a bit of a slow start this year, but he absolutely ran through the Trojans and he dominated that game. C.J. carr made some freshman mistakes. Love and Jadarian Price are the best one, two bunch backfield duo in college football. And Jadarian Price had that big kickoff return that reset the momentum for the Fighting Iris. But Jeremiah Love certainly had a great game against the Trojans. What did he do? 24 carries, 228 and a touchdown. Now special shout out. UAB went through some changes head coaching wise. Trent Dilfer got relieved of his duties. And then for all of us growing up in the 80s and 90s, we watched this man's father on ESPN dispense great NFL news and tidbits and a lot of other scuttlebutt. Chris Mortensen, God rest his soul, but his son has proven to be a good football man. Takes over for UAB and they pull a huge huge upset against Memphis. Weren't they like a 20 point dog? They won the game flat out. So he was blazing for UAB. Congratulations to them.
Smitty
I like your 3 in the top 3. I would have added Brockmire. I thought BYU's getting win against Utah was big. I think that freshman's playing lights out. Kalani's got to be coach of the year balling.
Steve Kim
He absolutely is. And.
Smitty
But I love Mortenson on there. I love Mortenson on there.
Steve Kim
Now the bad gotta be honest. Carson, Beck, Carson. Not every one of those interceptions is your fault. But eventually you have the ball in your hand every play and I, I think that they need to make some adjustments. Offensively I think some of these issues are very fixable. Shout out to Roman Kane. My guy Roe, he did a whole video on it, there are some things you could do to not change the offense, but alter it. And they have to understand people are now playing for that duo scheme. And you're gonna face loaded boxes and fronts. And I think it's gonna be very hard at certain times to run that ball consistently, at least early in games. But Carson, I, I know that you think there's miscommunication and all that. That was a first down play. You could have chucked that ball into the third row. My God, that is still on you. At the end of the day, you're the one who gets the money. You're the face of the program. You have to be better. And the reality is, I believe Miami has to win out. And the best way someone put it to me on Twitter is because they this person happened to agree with me. Miami now has six game sevens in essence. Let's see what we're made of. And we're not playing Georgia at Athens. We're not playing Alabama Tuscaloosa. We're not playing the Horseshoe against Ohio State. We're playing ACC teams where we're basically going to be at least, at least a 10 point favorite in every game. Bottom line now, number two, I wonder at this point if and I, and I like Matt Rule. I've always talked about the third year jump. I'm a Matt Rule believer. But what a terrible loss.
Smitty
Coach.
Steve Kim
I get home from the game and I'm already depressed. I look at my phone and I see 24, six. And I'm all like, what? That loss for Nebraska and Matt Rule cannot happen in year number three. It just cannot.
Smitty
Yeah, they're bad, Bad loss.
Steve Kim
And, and Dylan Raiola. I, I, I don't know. Can he make a living being of Mahomes impersonator? I just, I know it's not all his fault, but there's something about that that's off that I don't know. He's not developing the way I thought. There is some talent there, but I don't know if he wanted to campaign secretly for the Penn State job. I don't think this was the best advertisement for it. And then finally, number three. And this is for Braden Fahoko. Ryan Kelly, Brian Kelly. The honeymoon is over. They're not now, Smitty. They're not only at the stage where the honeymoon's over, right? They're sleeping in separate beds. I think one of those parties is now staying at the hotel motel Holiday Inn. Marvin Mitchinson.
JB
Oh, man.
Smitty
Steve, I asked yesterday, I asked yesterday about Nebraska and Rule. I Asked Sean King, I asked Chevarini, I said, is there a point where these guys that were on this high expectation or high hiring list fall off? And I asked that about your boy yesterday. UNLV got blown out by Boise. Now, is he out of the conversation at Penn State, ucla, other places? Same with Rule. Yeah, I get it. But it matters, though. Like, it matters because you want a hot guy going in and you already want to make that decision by Thanksgiving on who you're hiring. And it's a very, very finite decision at the end of the day, because recruiting is. You got to have a guy in place before basically Christmas, even if you haven't officially put him on paper. You got to know who your guy is. I. I think there's some problems out there for ucla, Penn State, Florida and some other places. Are guys we're watching gonna show their true colors? I don't know. Matt Rule helped himself and I don't know if. God damn. What's his name at unlv?
Steve Kim
Dan Mullen.
Smitty
I always forget his name because he's a nobody to me. Dan Mullen. Is he. Is he gonna be in consideration anymore, Steve? Because that's it. Barry Odom did the same thing. I told you guys last week. He's not doing nothing. We haven't seen Barry Odom did it. John Robinson did it for a couple years at unlv. Won a bowl game, beat Arkansas. I was at the game. You gotta be different at unlv. I don't know if Mullen's gonna be the guy that's gonna fly off the. The deal here. So I'm gonna. We're gonna see. But rules making it hard for me at Nebraska. I. I just really gotta ask the questions, Steve. As Nebraska just. That's just who they are. Like, they're. You haven't got anything since you got rid of Frank Solis and Polini. You haven't been anything. And even then, they fired him because they couldn't get over the hump and be the 95.
Steve Kim
If you're a realistic Nebraska fan, none of them said, we're gonna. We gotta beat Ohio State. None of them said. They're just saying beat Minnesota or don't get beat 24, 6. I think that's a realistic.
Smitty
Like Miami fans.
Steve Kim
Most Miami fans are not saying we got to win the national title. Well, we are saying let's actually win home games against ACC teams. We are not asking for too much. It's about expectation and being realistic. Those things have to align. When I look at a job like Let me ask you about ucla. Let's say they run the table somehow they have to play Indiana, so it's probably not going to happen.
Smitty
They got Ohio State too.
Steve Kim
Okay, let's say, let's say they only win, only lose another game, right?
Smitty
I mean, they beat one of those.
Steve Kim
You keep the band.
Smitty
Who do you, who do you get?
Steve Kim
Tim Skipper's kind of working with new Heisle. That's kind of work. I know that's not gonna happen. Who do you get if you're ucla?
Smitty
That's the thing. Like they're never going to keep an interim. Unfortunately, less than 1% are retained because they have to go after the name now in the Nil era, I, Tim Skipper, love the family to death. Love him, Kelly, everybody that I've known that his name doesn't blow away the, the, the, the collective or the recruit, right? Like, what recruit? Like you bring James Franklin in and boom, you get guys that decommitted at Penn state who are 4 and 5 stars and commit to UCLA overnight. You don't get that with Tim Skipper, unfortunately, because the players don't know who he is. So would it look, would it look.
Steve Kim
Funny if James Franklin went to ucla?
Smitty
No, I said, I said it when it happened. I was like, well, don't be surprised if this cat is the next coach there after they just beat him. I wouldn't be shocked at all. Here's the issue though. Tim Skipper fits perfectly at Colorado State again. He was at Fresno. Is that Colorado State before, like Colorado State's open as well? Listen, I don't know, I just think they're gonna go after a big name. But guess who I, I, if I'm USC right now, I'm writing a blank check and I'm sending it to Urban Meyer and I'm saying, this guy's done this guy. Lincoln Riley's shitty. And I've been telling you guys, but what do I know?
Steve Kim
Manny, he's been done with them two years ago.
JB
You don't have to be done with them now.
Smitty
Dave, you, you, you remind me of Nebraska. You are never going to win the big one. Your average Joe. And I know, I never have faith in a Lincoln Riley led team. I, I, you can, you can have an Heisman, you could score a bunch of points, but you're never gonna beat a team that matters. I'm just telling you, that's Lincoln Riley In a nutshell. 2:75 up your asshole at USC. You got the best D lineman money can buy. You got the best D coordinator money could buy you got USC and you get fucking 300 yards rushed down your ass. Get the out of here, man. Go. Go look pretty and paint your nails with Caleb Williams. LA guy. Get a West coast guy that understands a modern day and Bosco's right here in your backyard. And they're going to Ohio State and Oregon. Get a guy that keeps those guys in their backyard. Get the out of here. This guy's a joke. Get his ass out of here, man.
JB
So they go. So they went out. They go 10 and 2.
Smitty
I don't give a. They're shitty. They. They played. Nobody left. Look at their ride. Look at their schedule. I'm just telling you right now, ucla. You better. Now you got to worry about ucla.
JB
It's gonna be a game. We should go to that game and just react live.
Smitty
Yeah, you gotta. You gotta beat you at UCLA now, Steve. That's a huge. If Lincoln Riley don't beat Tim Skipper, I would fire his. I would fire his ass on a tarmac right there on the spot. Wherever it is. I'll find right there on right there. Go right, right out to the hood and say, hubcaps just got stolen. Figueroa, you're gone with them. That's what I would do.
Steve Kim
Hey, guys, what did you think of Norvell not getting fired by fsu? Because that's.
Smitty
I'm shocked. I'm shocked. I thought he would be gone. I thought Mike McDaniels be gone. I thought the whole state of Florida would be gone after Crystal Ball. I thought everybody be gone.
JB
Well, speaking of gone and speaking of coaching right now, Wisconsin AD Chris McIntosh released a statement actually supporting Luke Fickle despite disappointment and frustration with the Badger season. Jb, break this down, man. Break down the truth about what?
Smitty
Is this a dissertation?
JB
Yeah. This is the ad Chris McIntosh giving a long support to Badger Nation, saying that he supports Luke Fickle despite the, and I quote, disappointment and frustration with the Badgers season.
Smitty
Well, then what's his name?
JB
His name is Chris McIntosh.
Smitty
Chris McIntosh. He should go hit up Barry Alvarez and say, Barry. And then Barry should say, get the out of my chair. Get out of my office. And the chancellor should call and say, hey, Barry, what do we got to do to win again? And then besides getting Ron Dane back in here or Jonathan Taylor, what do we got to do? Oh, yeah, you're this. Gotta get rid of this fraud because this guy's the biggest fraud in college football. I've been telling you guys, him and your boy, what's his name, Brian Harson, are the two Biggest birds in college football. They both should not be coaching. But one of them has a job, and the other one has a head job. The other one's a coordinate. Harson's a coordinator and he's shitty. And I'm just telling you, this right here needs. He needs to be gone. I'm just telling you right now, this guy should go fast. So guess What, Chris Macintosh McIntosh, you should be fired. You should be fired.
Steve Kim
You mean Luke Fickle or Luke finished?
Smitty
Oh, they're both shitty. That I would clear House. If I'm the board of trustees in Wisconsin and Madison who has a bunch of, like, you know, I gotta. We got a great reputation uphold here. We're physical.
Steve Kim
We.
Smitty
We run the football, we run the rock. We play in the snow. These are an empty. Get the out of here. Get these guys out of here.
Steve Kim
Wisconsin could not wait to get. To get away from Paul. Chris.
JB
Nah.
Smitty
And they. And he was winning. He was solid. Yeah.
Steve Kim
He understood the culture. I think he was an alum. He knew the program. He knew.
Smitty
What about you?
JB
Had.
Smitty
You had Billema?
Steve Kim
No. BMO left for Arkansas on his own volition.
Smitty
No, I know, but I'm saying. Because you didn't want to pay. See, Wisconsin's always been on the cheap end. You never want to pay nobody. And that's the problem. You got this guy from Cincinnati because, like, nobody.
Steve Kim
Wait a minute, Coach. He made the playoffs.
Smitty
Sauce. Hey, I get it. But Cincinnati. I mean, because you're a power four. Like, be honest.
Steve Kim
I mean, he did have a year.
Smitty
With Sauce and remember big fishy little fish Steve. He was a big fish in a group of four or what at the time or whatever. And guess what? Yeah, you should.
Steve Kim
I mean, my point is you. You think it's easy to upgrade. Be careful what you wish for.
Smitty
If I'm. If I'm. If I'm Wisconsin and you want to be smart at all, you throw a bag at Lance Leipold today because he's from there. Hits his. His whole. His whole family's from there. The state reveres him. He's won I don't know how many national titles at Whitewater and all these other holes. Go get his ass up there, man.
Steve Kim
Light Bulb would be like a Willie Fritz type of hire.
Smitty
Yes.
Steve Kim
May not be the young hotshot, but he will steady and stabilize your program and you'll get better. The thing with Light Bulb, and I.
Smitty
Believe that's Lance's dream job, by the way. So. Is it? Yeah. He's from there. Yeah.
Steve Kim
That would be so damaging to Kansas, he's done a great job. They have a fancy new stadium, they're putting money into it. But maybe Lance Leipold thinks, well, Jalen Daniels is gone, so that ERA is over. I, I left Kansas in a much better place than when I found it.
Smitty
I'm be honest. Lance fits Madison much better than he does Lawrence.
Steve Kim
I'm sure he does have to finish.
JB
This season off like with a bang though, right? Like, because if I'm Wisconsin, why would I want to hire him if Kansas goes, I don't know, 6 and 6 or something. Like he just because he's last.
Smitty
They know what he's facing. They know who he is. Like he, Lance is At least I know who he is. I like some other guys, I don't know if he, I know who they are. Like, I don't know Rule is because Rule is shitty in the NFL. He was at Temple, he had a run at Baylor, but then he left. So I don't really know this what.
Steve Kim
I, I, I would tell Matt, I said, matt, you could have done unbelievable things at Baylor except you went for the money. You, you took the short term money. See, they think I, this is where I disagree, Coach, when they say, well, I had to take that financial opportunity. You stay at Baylor, trust me, you cost yourself money. With the way it ended up with the Browns at Baylor. He was on the verge of making that thing a top 10 program every year. It's the resources they have in a very manageable conference. It's like Butch Davis, Butch Davis stays at Miami. The money he made at Cleveland, he could have, he could have written a blank check. He could have been a legend. He could have been the Saban. And every day BUTCH DAVIS For 10 years he tried to come back to Miami. He burned so many bridges. People were not. I'm like, hey coaches, sometimes you're better off staying and finishing the actual job. I would never do a five year rebuild and in the sixth year give up a championship opportunity. I'd be like, no, no, let me, let me get that ring because now I have the leverage. Yeah, Matt Rule lost his leverage when he left Baylor and then just, he was not an NFL coach.
Smitty
Jdubs BD I guess that's J Dubs baby daddy, here's the thing. You're a nobody. And I don't need to bring up SC when they beat Michigan because Michigan is a nobody. Michigan's not very good. You should beat Michigan. You nobody. Guess what? SC supposed to win those games at home at 1:00.
Steve Kim
If you're gonna bring up that. Well, jb, here's the problem then. If you're gonna say, well, what about Michigan? Then I'd counter, and what about Illinois?
Smitty
That's what I'm saying. Illinois just mud stomped you. I didn't talk about SC losing to Illinois by 50 either. Well, they didn't lose anyway. Yeah, whatever. Same might as well be Illinois is Illinois. Illinois beats SC by one. It's 50 because there's a. No, you should never lose to Illinois. Like this ain't basketball.
JB
You're stuck in the 2000 a long time, coach.
Steve Kim
I saw Illinois be the SC team with junior Seow and I think Mark.
Smitty
Illinois's had a couple good teams.
JB
Yeah.
Steve Kim
Now I think Todd Morinovich made his first start of the opening 89.
Smitty
Illinois had. Was that Todd Blackledge?
Steve Kim
Illinois? No, it was Jeff George.
Smitty
I mean, Jeff George. Okay, two good team, Steve. I mean they've had two good teams in 50 years. I also seen that. I also seen Joe Namath win the super bowl with the Jets. Number one. He guaranteed it.
Steve Kim
And by the way, Smitty, is Jeff George still the greatest player from your high school?
Smitty
Yeah. He shits on Whitlock and Smitty.
JB
Well, he was, I mean it's, he was the number one overall draft pick. So I think by default we have to say that. But we've had so many. Like I, I would argue that David Bell was our all around greatest one central athlete. Athlete, basketball. He went undefeated in basketball. Win a state championship. Undefeated in football. When the state championship in the same damn year. So it's, that's who I'm putting there. But you know, I. Jeff George was.
Steve Kim
The number one prep player in his year.
Smitty
Right. Purdue.
Steve Kim
People don't realize how close he came to transferring to Miami. Big story behind that, Jimmy Johnson nearly had him. And then one of the former players that I had lunch with about five weeks ago said, Steve, I want to tell you right now, he was a black player. And he said that Jeff George did at other places, bitching my whining and moaning. We may have stuffed him in a garbage can. He would not have worked at Miami. I really go, Steve.
JB
No.
Smitty
Hey, before we get to this last thing for you, Steve, with Hugh Freeze, let me ask you this. Oh, it's gone.
Steve Kim
It's over.
Smitty
It's frozen. I got to watch, I got to watch that. I got to watch that Louisville game highlights because I was at Weddell's game. And then I got to go back and, and watch the game a little bit because I Was like getting a phone call from a buddy of mine who coached their big time whiteout. And I'm like, he goes, jb, I'm telling you right now, you, you would love this kid. Watch him. So I watched him. The Bell kid. Oh, Chris Bell, he's the best football player in football. I'll just tell you right now, my eyes work different.
Steve Kim
So you take him over Jeremiah.
JB
Yeah.
Smitty
Yep. You know why? Because I've told. I've coached 21 NFL whiteouts, dog. This right here is different. And he's the guy, he's the guys that I used to go after. Carry on. Parker, Mike Evans, he's twitchy, he's long, he's thick, he's got like different gear, he's nasty. I'm telling you right now, he's the best guy. He popped off the screen when I watched him more than anyone I've seen.
Steve Kim
Oh, by the way, here's another thing that I'm noticing in football. And we got again, can't wait to hear the.
Smitty
Nobody's had never recruited one player in their life. Tell me I'm wrong, but go ahead.
Steve Kim
This is a trend in football. And, and I love Corey Heatherman. He's done an excellent job. Because I'm watching the game every time it's third and long now in football, let's say it's third and third like 12 to 16. And if you're anywhere near midfield, your coordinator should be telling you, hey guys, draw or screen because they're trying to get to fourth and four because they want to go for it. And there's so many times I'm watching games, I'm thinking, hey guys, watch for the tunnel screen, shuttle, screen, something or a draw. Because they're not trying to get all the yards back now. They're just trying to get 2/3 of it and get them to 4th and 4 now you can go for it and that like there's no recognition on the deep. What are they teaching these guys? You've got to think of these downs now and when we were growing up, jb, it was a three down game offensively, basically.
Smitty
Yeah.
Steve Kim
It is now more a four down offense more than ever in the history of the game.
Smitty
Yeah, and that Bell kid shits on the two kids at SC Lemon. And the other one, by the way.
Steve Kim
Oh, I don't know, hold on.
Smitty
Not even close is nice.
JB
And you just said, you said receivers were the best duo.
Steve Kim
You're right about that.
Smitty
I've seen the Lemon kid or what Lemon or Limone, whatever the. You Want to call him? I don't see the thing over his. I don't see the. I don't see the squiggle over his name, homie. You don't le. Man, he's from this. This is the lemon, by the way. He's a lemon too. Wide open, balls over the middle. I saw him drop all those ball. He ain't bail. I'm telling you right now. He ain't no Bell. Jeremiah Smith, respectfully, Bell shits on all of them. I'm just telling you, take your boy's word, homie. That has guys in the league. You guys are going by stats and what you see and all this.
JB
Am I wrong? Didn't JB 10 minutes ago say that Ohio State had the best receiver duo in the nation by far?
Smitty
Duo, Duo. Yes, I did say that. The best two Bell is the best one.
JB
Okay.
Steve Kim
Hey, coach, what about you? Hugh Frozen, Drop the mic.
Smitty
Yeah, they'll question me again. Darnell. What?
JB
Don't call me Darnell no more.
Smitty
Yeah, what'd you say, Steve?
Steve Kim
So what's going on with Hugh Frozen?
Smitty
He's. He needs to go golf. He's shitty. He's such a joke. Like these coaches are. They just embarrass. I got second hand embarrassment watching some of these because I can see how fake they are and how just they're going through the motions getting all this money and they're not really invested. They don't want to do this. And I respect guys like Shasheski and Saban and, and other guys that said, you know what? I'm not gonna do that and steal money. I'm getting out. Because if I, if I can't really coach and do what I want to do, I'm getting out. This guy right here is just still stealing money. He's a joke.
Steve Kim
Doesn't Auburn seem to go through a new coach every three years?
Smitty
He needs to be at Liberty or somewhere where he can just go through the most in to be shitty. Like he doesn't need to. He doesn't need to be at Auburn.
JB
He said he would like to get a public voter support from his. His ad.
Steve Kim
Oh, that means you're gone. My God, you're begging for a vote of confidence.
JB
He said, he said it would be huge.
Smitty
Hey, you know what? The difference. See the difference, Steve. With me, I'm. I'm. You and I are similar in this regard. Makai Lemon is so good and he's from la. Weird take from jb. I don't give a if he's from Compton if the not better than the Bell kid. I'm not gonna say it, you idiot. You guys are fair weather boys. You're fanboys who swing off the nuts of people because they're from your city. I'm an honest truth teller. The guy Bell is the best football player in America.
JB
It was better than Cornell. Tate. Steve Kim says he said Carnell Tay would be wide receiver one. And how many schools?
Smitty
125 schools.
JB
That includes Louisville, homie.
Smitty
No, it doesn't.
Steve Kim
According to him, it doesn't. But coach Jeremiah, you're not very good at Math.
Smitty
Smitty, there's 132 D1s. So that means there's seven schools that he's not number one at. And Louisville's one of them now. What?
JB
Steve.
Steve Kim
So, so coach, if you were a gm, huh, you would take and again, I, I, I saw Chris Bell firsthand. He was the best player on that field.
Smitty
You would.
Steve Kim
But you would still take Chris Bell over Jeremiah St. Smith.
Smitty
Yeah. After watching this guy.
Steve Kim
Okay, yeah, I trust your football acumen.
Smitty
I'm just tell you right now.
Steve Kim
Listen, I'm just an observer, humble observer of the game.
JB
I don't trust him. I don't give a what he says.
Smitty
And, and I'm going watch one game, Steve.
JB
He watched one game of Chris. Mr. Chris Bell before the today all.
Smitty
I need you watch one game.
JB
He's best player in the country.
Smitty
I saw Jermaine Johnson rush the passer one time too. How'd that work out? My eyes work, homie. I know what the I'm looking at Dar now her Ball State, homie. I know who the I'm looking at. I see you one time, Smitty.
JB
Hey, about Ball State, huh? What you say? What you say about my, my alma mater? No, no.
Smitty
What you say about my mama? Hey, listen, here's the thing. Steve.
JB
Steve gotta go. He gotta go.
Smitty
I gotta, I gotta watch all these film. I'm seeing running backs. I see you jump cut and you get hawked down at the six. And then I see you jump cut again. I'm like, all right, I'll watch one more play. I watch one play and I see love on film. And he goes 90. I don't need to watch two 20 game films, Smitty. I my eyes work on this thing. I'm a personnel guy, homie. Jermaine Johnson. I said, oh, yeah, I need to go get him. Guess where I drove. I just got my car at Independence. I drove straight north through Iowa, Nebraska and all Minnesota. And I got that signed. You Know why? And then guess what? He's a first rounder, wasn't he?
JB
Well.
Steve Kim
And no offense to those people in those fine states.
Smitty
Gates.
Steve Kim
One last thing, guys.
Smitty
Oh, Keith Smith. Him. Go ahead.
Steve Kim
Okay.
Smitty
Except him.
Steve Kim
So one last thing before I leave. Does C.J. stroud have a. I don't have a Tank Dell problem. And by the way, his mom needs to. I think that he is not. Not him. CJ Stroud does not look like the same guy post Tank Dell injury.
Smitty
I'm just telling you.
Steve Kim
Tank Dell is that.
Smitty
I said. I said. And here's the other issue. I said, if you're gonna get. If Tank's hurt and he's out another year, why did you get rid of Mechi? I get. I get that he was hurt. I get that he wasn't the guy like you thought. But at the same time, you missed out on a guy that I have to double in the slot. Whether by. By formation, by. I mean, by coverage or what? I dropped a safety. I got to do something with Mechi because he's a little twitchy and he's inside now. Nico's on an island. Nowadays, you're seeing Nico get spun on by the safety. They're doubling his ass. He's had a big drop last night. You also got to make some plays. But C.J. is struggling. The sophomore slumps become a.
Steve Kim
It's not a slump.
Smitty
It is what he is. It's become a junior slump now. Yeah.
Steve Kim
And one last thing. Speaking of mothers, Jaden Daniel's mom is becoming an issue. I think she's a distraction now.
Smitty
I. I kind of agree.
Steve Kim
It's like every week, it's like he's in some Twitter thing or she has to be.
JB
Scenes like.
Smitty
And we got Sheldon on after this. And it's unfortunate. Smitty's like, ah, that's the first question.
Steve Kim
You can ask him. So, anyway, I gotta log off. I will watch that. That segment later.
JB
Steve, I know. I know about the jump. But one last thing. The only person who can save Auburn is this coach right here. And I think, yeah.
Smitty
Yes, he can.
Steve Kim
Jackson Arnold. He can coach up Deuce night. He can get the ball now.
JB
That's me.
Smitty
That's a. That's a good job. Whoever did this is actually the right. That's the guy. That's the graphic guy. We need fat.
Steve Kim
I'll just say this, Kevin, the truckers do not grow on trees.
Smitty
You were like this, Steve.
JB
He was over here like this on the podcast.
Steve Kim
It's the truth. I was thinking.
JB
I was like.
Steve Kim
I Don't know how he captured it.
Smitty
The man's a Jesus Picasso.
Steve Kim
He's Monet. He's an artist.
Smitty
This is what we do.
Steve Kim
But anyway, guys, I gotta. I gotta hop on.
JB
All right, then, Mr. Kim. Steve Kim. Clap it up, clap it up. Hit that like sending your C notes. Gibby. Mike Bundy, Michael Porter. Appreciate he's still at your house, homie.
Smitty
This just came back.
JB
He stood at your house. It's been five days.
Smitty
He just go home. How many days?
JB
Look at him.
Smitty
It's been five days.
JB
And I hate. I hate how he just walks, like, nonchalant, like. Like he's not in the camera. He just walks like everything's normal. Like he's just robust blunt on air beer.
Smitty
He said he waited till Steve left.
JB
Me, though. Huh. Man, I mean, I don't know what.
Smitty
Y' all going over yesterday, you're at the bar in a manner that I did not appreciate.
JB
What you mean?
Smitty
You were sitting at the bar like my AES.
JB
That's possible.
Smitty
And that's why I said stop. I didn't know what you guys were doing. And I did not know you were ordering a drink at six in the morning yesterday to start the show. Yeah, homie, I did not know that. The screenshot somebody took last night of the video of the picture that I posted just to say, hey, man, subscribe to our channel. I did not know that Reuben was in that picture.
JB
In the back, homie. Like, walking around, homie, quiet.
Smitty
Anyway, we need to introduce your day because it's Sheldon's day.
JB
Yeah, man. On this Tuesday, in the trenches with Sheldon Day, man. My guy, man. OG Vet, defensive tackle for the Commanders, played in the national title, started in the super bowl, and now he's leading the Commanders. My guy, Sheldon Day. Bring him on the show as that was going on. What's up, everybody?
Sheldon Day
What's up? What's up, everybody doing today?
JB
Happy Tuesday.
Smitty
Happy. I'm so, like. You're unbelievable. You're an unbelievable spirit.
NHTSA Announcer
Wow.
JB
He's never told me that by myself, ever.
Smitty
Because you're not. You're unbelievable spirit seller. Like, you lost two in a row and you come on the show like a man and say. And it's smiling. Yeah, kudos to you.
Sheldon Day
I appreciate that, baby.
Smitty
You know, Are you happy because you lost two as a player because Notre Dame won, or are you happy because you're back on active roster and you're ready to go eat?
Sheldon Day
Well, I'm happy because I woke up this morning, jb, you know.
JB
Oh, God. Good.
Sheldon Day
Come on.
Smitty
Good Job, Good comeback. You dropped the mic on that?
JB
Yeah, like JB can't say nothing back.
Steve Kim
To that.
Smitty
Because I'm expecting to go any day, so I love it.
JB
You said what?
Smitty
Huh?
JB
You're expecting what?
Smitty
Homie, I'm expecting to go any day, so I love.
JB
You do live like jb. You do live a lifestyle. And I, and I always try to preach to you to change some things, but the way you smoke, the way you drink, the way you speaking of.
Smitty
That like around wasting a brand new cigar, that's dumb.
JB
My girl, I came home, smell like cigar smoke yesterday and my girl was like, she said JB smokes like that much in the morning. I said yeah, like, like duh, like he smokes like three cigars every show.
Smitty
Like give me. Yes, Reuben did grab a beer. He drinks at 5 in the morning.
JB
JB, how many cigars do you smoke on the day at Richard? Eight, nine a day, Sheldon.
Sheldon Day
How's that possible, jb, huh?
JB
How's that possible?
Smitty
The Michael Jordan spokes. Ten. I'm trying to catch him. He's the goat.
JB
So anyway, anyway though, let's get, let's get to some football, get some brass. Tax man. First of all, you were first game active. How did you feel physically, body wise? First game, break down the process. I didn't even know you was active, homie. At home on Red Zone, Julian, our homeboy Juice that calls me, he said, hey bro, turn the game on. He said, show that plane. I said, I don't think so. You would have said something. He said, any number night. This is dreads, ain't it? I said, let me turn the game on. Your ass on the field and you ain't say nothing. So like break down.
Smitty
He's humble, unlike you, homie.
JB
What's the process? Ain't got to do. I have to support my guy. So when he's playing, he didn't tell.
Smitty
You because he's humble. He didn't. You need to find out on your own. If you support your guy, you would have known.
JB
So every day I, I gotta do research. Let me just see.
Smitty
Yeah, that's a homeboy. That's what I do. That's my homie.
JB
You don't do that. But okay, go ahead, break down the process.
Smitty
How did I know he was playing?
Sheldon Day
So I found out a little later than what people usually do. I found out Saturday I was playing. So it was a little, little mind catch up. So had to get my mind right, ready to play.
Smitty
And what'd you do walking through that process. So you Find out. Boom. He calls you. Who calls you GM or.
Sheldon Day
And we keep it real on this show. I found out on the plane from somebody on the staff that I was playing. So I'm leave it at that.
Smitty
So, okay, so then what do you go? What's your process from there? Like, how do you mentally get ready for that?
JB
Yeah, because I'm assuming, like, prior to that, you've probably been on, like, scout team or whatever. Like what we would call scout team. So it's like, how do you now, like, damn, I gotta, like, figure out what we doing this week. What's the. What's the plays?
Smitty
Or like, I just asked that Darnell. I just asked him to say.
JB
I asked a little better, though. So every.
Sheldon Day
Every week you get, like, a little call sheet. And now. Now I'm on a plane going through the call sheet. Okay, what do I have on this play? What if I get power? What if I get belly to me with, like, all these things, you running through these scenarios and you visualize yourself, okay, my hands need to be here. Oh, I need to read this center instead of the guard on this play. Little stuff like that. So I think the flight was, like, three hours. So I had three hours to, like, mentally check in, like, okay, like, this is what I do on this play. This is what I do on this play. This happens. I go here. Little stuff like that to, like, check in, and it's like, okay, where can I take my shot? Is this a blitz? Is this a man coverage? Is stuff like that. So really trying to conceptualize, like, my job on every play and then obviously where I can make plays.
Smitty
So do you, like, are you hyped and you get to the hotel and then you. Are you, like. You get film or if you already watched all the film you need to watch on the Cowboys already because of scout.
Sheldon Day
So I guess, like, when you're on a scout team, you. I guess you act imitating the Cowboys D line. So I was doing, like, stuff that I was OC. I don't know how to pronounce his last name. Number 97 for the Cowboys that week. So I guess they're kind of attacking style. So I was kind of used to playing our defense a little bit, so that helped me out. But I didn't watch as much film as I would like, I guess, mentally, because you. You're not prepared and stuff like that, so.
Smitty
Gotcha. So during the week, you didn't watch a lot of films that you normally would have if you knew you were starting, like, Monday?
Sheldon Day
Yeah, for sure. Process is definitely different, I guess.
Smitty
But on the flight over, you got mentally ready on the. On the sheet and then on. You get to the hotel, though. Do you ask anybody, hey, can I get some film on these guys? Or you're like, I'm already played the part all week. I know this is what it is. It's too late anyway, because I agree with you. That's probably too late anyway. What are you gonna do?
Sheldon Day
Yeah, at that point, you just over stimulate yourself. It's like, okay, like, oh, maybe you might pick up one little extra thing. But at the point, it's like, let's go play ball.
Smitty
You know, you've been playing. Now, why did you get called up if you can say, like, somebody go down or you just earn the spotter?
Sheldon Day
I still don't know. Still no.
Smitty
Well, that means you're the guy then. Yeah.
Sheldon Day
So, I mean, we'll see. We'll see.
JB
Let's dive into the game. Obviously, things didn't go y' all way. You know, I know the Cowboys offense has been pretty good all year, though, and I know. I know Dak had a pretty good game. Just from your point of view, what were some of the things that. That was, I guess, bringing. Bring you guys some trouble on the defensive side as far as just kind of slowing those guys down right now?
Smitty
Read this guy's chat.
JB
What is. I. Dan G. It's like, it's a fan. I don't know who he is. He's not a member. He said Washington is a terrible team with a laughing emoji. I didn't say that. Dan G. Said that.
Sheldon Day
If you want to respond. Dan G. Where Dan G. Live?
Smitty
Who.
Sheldon Day
Who Dan G. A fan of?
JB
Huh?
Smitty
He's got a fake picture he got.
JB
Was that Beavies and butthead or something?
Smitty
He was actually waiting for you to come on so he could actually see if. If, like, we bring him up. So I wanted to give him a little credit because he's a nobody. He lives in his mom's basement, and. And he's. He's a nobody and never made it in life.
JB
He speaks of rose every day. Yeah, yeah.
Smitty
And he's the Eagles. Fanny said, oh, Eagles.
Sheldon Day
Damn. So we do play the Eagles this year, Dan. I appreciate your commentary.
Smitty
He calls the Eagles us at his. At his homeboy's barbershop. But anyway, right, Go ahead.
JB
What was the question again?
NHTSA Announcer
Dan?
Sheldon Day
Dan kind of threw me off a little bit.
JB
No, it's all good. Don't let Dan throw you off.
Sheldon Day
Yeah, that's playing at MVP level. I Will say that he's making all the throws. George Pickens, I think everybody was like so caught up in his shenanigans and stuff like that. But he's a really, really good player, so.
Smitty
Oh, I know. He's big time. He's big time. He's a bird. He's big time though, like. But most birds are big time. But he is a big time talented wise. He won't go dig it out and go get the safety or nothing in the run game. Him, he's selfish as hell, but he's a freak. Like, let's be honest. He's a freak. Go ahead, Darnell.
JB
You got it.
Smitty
I don't have no question. I'm just going feeding off you. Let's dive in another names Sheldon. You guys beat SC again. You said you beat him three out of four and the other time you lost, you didn't play. So you really were undefeated and kept going on this whole rant and all this stuff. And you've won seven out of eight, I believe. Or six out of seven, I forgot in the rivalry since you've left, I'm saying I think Lincoln Rice should be fired at sc. I think this is a mockery. But anyway, having said that, what's your take on Notre Dame getting a big win? Running. Basically running 300 yards right up USC's. And. And I thought they made them look like little boys. Go ahead.
Sheldon Day
So I guess like I said, we feed price and love and I. I. We really need a nickname for them like the. The price of love or something like that because they go crazy like.
Smitty
Yeah, I agree. It'll be kind of. It'd be kind of like. But at the same time, if you make it like more masculine, you could come up with a name. But I don't see any name whether which way you go. That's probably not. Yeah. Love for pride like anyway leading some.
JB
More Nil dollars though. Come on now.
Sheldon Day
Come on now.
JB
Case jewelry true.
Sheldon Day
Now it's little JB Be thinking so my new. Sometimes we gotta.
JB
He's real micro on this show. Yeah.
Smitty
Your homeboy wants you to venmo him though. Just FYI. I don't fa. But anyway, go ahead.
JB
So Notre Dame, you know, we.
Smitty
We.
Sheldon Day
We looked the part a little bit. Sometimes I just feel like we. We should win out. So I feel like we should end up in the playoff run. I just don't know how good our defense can hold up for the rest of the year. So I think that's the question.
Smitty
Why Are you guys hurt?
Sheldon Day
Nah, it's just like. I personally feel like SC shouldn't have scored that much because, like, I mean, it was cold. They really played their worst football in South Bend, so I feel like, like, 14 points.
Smitty
Yeah.
Sheldon Day
So, though. I mean, I'm biased, though, so.
Smitty
No doubt. No, I agree. Yeah.
JB
I'm gonna move on. I want to bring this up real quick, JB though. This has been going all over social, and with Sheldon being a defensive lineman, he might have a take on here, but Brian Burns was. People were saying he was going kind of a little crazy online, I guess after losing to the Broncos, it was not a fan of the game plan. At least the video we got here, baby, go ahead and play it. To me. To me, this is nothing. This is just for you. You lose the game. Especially the way they lost the game. Like, they were up. What was it? 19, 0 going in the fourth quarter, and you lose that game. I'm pissed off, too.
Smitty
Well, you gave up 33 points in the fourth quarter, Smitty. You gave up 33 points. Just say that. Just say you give 33. There you go.
JB
You're right.
Smitty
It was shut out. Shut out. Hey, yeah. 33 points, fourth quarter. Just say that. Just go with that. 33 points, fourth quarter.
JB
I never seen it.
Sheldon Day
Yeah, I'll be upset, too. I'm not gonna lie. Especially, like, you feel like you're dominating the game. And I guarantee that D line played really, really well. And it's like, Broncos D line is really good. Giants D line is really good. So the battle of D line. So now it's like bragging rights, like, oh, we outperformed y', all. So I know how that is. So I'd have been frustrated, too, giving up 33 in the fourth 15 minutes.
Smitty
So who's he bad at?
JB
By himself, probably. I feel like the D lineman. Sometimes you feel like there's only so much you can do, especially depending on how that. That the opposing offense, this. How they're scheming, if they're doing quick game, they're getting the ball out. You know what I'm saying? Screen short pass to where it's like, I could be as great as I want to be, but you still need a little bit of time to really, you know, get to that qb. So he probably just frustrated about the whole situation.
Smitty
Yeah.
JB
There's no way you lose that game.
Smitty
Sheldon, let me ask you something. If you walked in there, would you choke the. Out of the kicker? Just, like, grabbing. They're like, grab them.
JB
Like.
Smitty
I mean, you don't have to say it on here live. But, like, I'm just gonna ask you, like, would you just choke the out of that? Like, if you saw him, like, like, maybe later, like, at the bar or something? Like, like, take him out back and pillow him or, like, would you do something? He missed two extra points. He lost the game. At the end of the day, he lost the game because it is a kicker. So would you, like, take him out back and mark Sanchez's ass or anything like that or. You don't have to say it on the show live, but I'm just saying they lost a lot of people. A lot of money, a lot of people. Leah in our chat, she's a great fan. She find a she. She's mad because their parlay got over.
JB
That's Leah right there.
Smitty
That's Leah right there. Shelly, if you want to take a shot or something. She. She's very upset about the kicker situation. So a lot of people want to know, would you choke out of somebody?
Sheldon Day
I think if he was smiling in the locker room, he thought stuff was shits and giggles. I probably would. But I mean. I mean, everybody makes a mistake. Like, I got a double team and got thrown out the club one time. I was outside of my gap one time. Could have scored, you know, touchdown running outside my gap or in my gap. So everybody makes mistakes. You know, Everybody has a job, too, and we get paid a decent amount of money to do this job. So I think how he responded would make me respect.
Smitty
What was your check on the last. On the 15th?
JB
What was your exact amount?
Smitty
Like, what's the exact amount of checks? So we could, like. We could break it down and see if it's decent for the regular people. Like, is it regular folks?
JB
Like, yeah, because, like, decent means different things to JB to, like, Leah to. Leah says she loves your dimples, by the way.
Smitty
I don't see dimples at all.
JB
Yeah, I seen any dimples. You see it right there. That's a regular wrinkle when everybody smile. We all got wrinkles out there.
Smitty
By you, I think. I'm just saying. She lives out that way, like, East Coast.
JB
She a demon, too. But anyway, go ahead.
Smitty
See what?
JB
Huh?
Smitty
She's. What?
JB
I don't know.
Smitty
What'd you say, homie?
JB
Paris said, I was just thinking that I smile. Every time he smiles, you jump.
Smitty
You jumped over the question. What'd you say about Leah?
JB
No, I mean, I heard she was just, you know, like, she. She with it. Like, she liked that.
Sheldon Day
Oh, okay.
Smitty
I haven't heard that at all.
JB
Is she part of the challenge maybe?
Smitty
Nah, not yet. Anyway. I haven't heard.
JB
We're trying to get her on there, but, like. Yeah, I don't know.
Sheldon Day
Yeah, just throwing it out.
Smitty
Anyway, moving on amicably. Man, we got a guy on our show who won a Super Bowl. Yeah, unlike you, he won a Super bowl and. Not yet. I'm saying you're gonna win one. I'm just saying, like, not yet. I'm just with you. Sean King had something to say to you directly to you tomorrow. Sheldon Day.
JB
Oh, I definitely need to be on for that because they ass that D line so garbage right now in Washington. They playing with high pad level. They can't change the line of scrimmage. Definitely coach defense, offense, quarterback master better, right?
Smitty
Boy, cigar lounge.
JB
I gotta ask some tough questions. Cut this moment right here. I'm gonna show it for Sheldon. Shell's gonna go in on Sean.
Sheldon Day
Yeah.
JB
They tell someone they playing with high pad level. They never change the line of scrimmage. They don't hustle. It's low effort. That's all around right now. His group ass. Baby, please cut this.
Smitty
What about Jada? Oh.
JB
I forgot. So real quick shot. King's talking crazy.
Smitty
Hey, real quick. Go in on this, Sheldon. Go in on this mother. I defended you, Sheldon, just so you know. I need you to go in on them.
JB
I'll play quarterback. He don't know nothing about D line play number one. So I'm gonna start there. But. But you go ahead and take it.
Sheldon Day
See, the problem is I don't know Sean. I don't know Sean.
Smitty
So I. I love you, John. Love you. You love. You'll like Sean. At the end of the day, he'll like Sean. But he talking, right. He played for the Bug one. Super boy. You're too young.
JB
Probably he'd play for Keyshawn Johnson a couple times.
Smitty
Yeah, it was Keyshawn's quarterback.
JB
Quarterback. And then, you know.
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Smitty
When I defeated Two Lane. When I defeated Two Lane, Share the Natty.
JB
They fought for a position in Detroit.
Smitty
Yeah, he got over it. That was a racist situation. He got over. Beat him out.
JB
Yeah, he don't like it.
Smitty
Mike. Mike Martin, he thought played favoritism. He thinks he should be coaching D1. He coached at. He coached at South Florida for a minute. Coach at IMG Academy. Now he's a unlv. He's just like degenerate bum gambler. Smokes cigars every day. Doesn't do anything.
JB
He's from South Florida, like the Tampa area.
Smitty
Jacksonville. Yeah, yeah.
JB
Yeah. Just give you the whole background of who he is.
Sheldon Day
Yeah. So you know what, what I love about the National Football League is you can turn the tape on. I mean, just. Let's just pull up the tape against the Cowboys and we can see who's running to the ball. You said play with low effort. Not true. We run to the ball, play with low pad level. I mean, I don't think the Cowboys moved us off of D line or moved us.
Smitty
I mean, I agree with you. I agree with you on this because I. Because I watched it a little bit. I was watching you playing. I was like, there's no way that your head coach allows low effort.
JB
Right.
Smitty
So Sean King capping is. They all say capping. He's capping. That's why I backed you guys. I backed my boy up.
JB
Sheldon, I don't know what that fist, man. You're still a white boy. But 100. And then it's also like you guys are watching like the actual. The film because he's drinking, smoking, watching Fox Sports. He's not getting the full visual of like the actual T shape and what's going on.
Sheldon Day
Yeah, it's cool. I mean, like, he played quarterback too. So like that gives you true perspective. He's over here looking at the back end. Maybe something about the back end playing with high power level. But you don't really need low power level playing, I guess safety, I guess.
JB
In your backpedal, confused, like mentally drinking, smoking.
Smitty
And he thought, oh, yeah, because maybe.
Sheldon Day
Talking about a corner, trying to come set the edge. And then O line put his hands on him and he bounced the corner back and stuff like that. You just, you never know. And, and you said he played back in the 2000s. Vision probably a little blurry now. You know, as you get older, you drink, you smoke, vision blur, things start to get confusing. It's cool.
JB
He also gained some weight over the years too, which happens normally.
Smitty
Yeah. Now. Now he look like Uncle Phil looking ass.
JB
And Y Divon deli looking ass.
Smitty
Yeah, he look like Eric Snow fat looking ass.
JB
Yeah, like Teeny Jake ass.
Smitty
Like, yeah, my booger looking ass.
JB
Vegas looking ass.
Smitty
He used to be in shape. Like, if you see his intro video. Take a look at his intro video. He was like, yeah, like, watch out. Look at his intro video real quick when he pulls it up. You guys see like in shape. Guy play quarterback in.
JB
Yeah, yeah.
Smitty
Won a Super Bowl. Like, look how in shape he is. And then look at his face now. What do you think about that now? Like then. And now. Then and now break it down.
Sheldon Day
He def. He definitely wasn't looking at the D line. I can see the way he threw the ball.
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Sheldon Day
He don't. He don't even watch the D line. He watched straight 707, so he. He couldn't be talking about Washington D line. It's cool. I respect it, though. He tried.
Smitty
And he played, right? He played. So you respect. He played. He played big, high level. Played at the highest level with you, so.
Sheldon Day
For sure.
Smitty
Yeah, no doubt, no doubt. Well, shout out for a response, man. We'll make that go viral. Paris, cut that up as. As favorable as you can.
JB
Oh, she gonna cut a real night because, like, she loves. She loves Sheldon, so she gonna cut him. Nice.
Smitty
Who does Paris do? She married, though.
JB
That's what I thought. But, I mean, hey, none of my business, huh? None of my business. I stay out of it.
Smitty
Okay.
JB
Anyway, polygamy, homie.
Smitty
But, yeah, go ahead. No, go ahead.
JB
I mean, I was gonna either. Go ahead. Jamie, do you remember what AJ respond? Damn. I don't know what he said.
Smitty
AJ's actually texting me right now.
JB
Oh, hey, what are you doing right now? Because I know for.
Smitty
Oh. Oh, Sean King.
JB
You got caught. You gotta call. You gotta call one of them.
Smitty
Dynell, can you read. Read Sean King's text message live.
JB
I was in the group chat. Let me see. Yeah, give me one second. He said, y' all better tell Sheldon what I said. Cowboys average 4.9 yards of carry and ran for 152 yards. Dak threw the ball 30 times and was sacked once. End quote.
Sheldon Day
King said so. I thought Sean said we wasn't playing with effort. We playing with high power level. So you know what, jb, don't. You got the film.
JB
Let's pull up the film.
Sheldon Day
You feel me?
JB
Like, call space, baby Dog. I love this.
Sheldon Day
I love to see it.
Smitty
Darnell really started. Darnell's really started something here. I didn't. I had nothing to do with it. I didn't want nothing to do with it.
JB
I didn't put words in time out. Sean said that we. You and I didn't make Sean say anything. All we said that showed us coming on tomorrow. He got excited.
Smitty
We're putting Sheldon and crosshairs.
JB
I don't.
Smitty
I don't like it because Shelley is a great guest on the show, and I appreciate him taking time out of his day because he's. He's on a current roster.
JB
You ain't got to tell me this like, that's my boy. Like, AJ.
Smitty
AJ's asking now for a response from Sheldon too.
JB
Hold on. But what did AJ say though?
Smitty
Because AJ's still talking about a lot. I wish I should have told Baghdad and the Natty. He's still talking about I could just throw up anything. And it was completely.
JB
But yeah, we told AJ last week that what you said about them getting the film and then age. What did AJ say, JB?
Smitty
AJ was like, you know, was it really 42 point difference? Like I, I, I, I mean, he said everybody knows everybody has a film. Everybody has a film.
JB
So he was damn near saying, ah, God damn Sean. To catch you up, we have a degenerate gambler in our chat who's, who's, I guess stole his wife.
Smitty
What is he on me, a degenerate.
JB
Gambler who stole his wife's credit card. And I've tried to like actually help him out. I've told him to stop. He keeps sending us money and like, it's like, it's a weird. Like I like it, but at the same time I'm concerned for his well being. He sent us over $2,000 in the last like, what's five days? No.
Smitty
Yeah, he said like four or five hundred a day.
JB
Like I don't, he might be a CEO. I thought it was Gilbert Arenas because his name is Gibby something. Maybe it's like he's like, damn.
Smitty
There still could be damn near.
JB
It's too much money coming out from one person. Like he's not a normal guy.
Smitty
Well, there's guys out there spending a contrary to belief that actually still have a job.
JB
Yeah, I got fired, so I can't do like that.
Smitty
Just to cover up for the brother. Can you send us the two grand Venmo real quick and I'll send it to him just so we could have.
JB
Like, you know what, you know what?
Sheldon Day
It's, it's, it's Community Tuesday, you know, so you got to help out the community in some, some form or fashion. We'll see how it goes.
Smitty
What do you got? What do you got today? Your community. You're a hell of a community activist. What do you got? What do you got going today?
Sheldon Day
We got. We're going to see about dogs getting adopted. You know, really love animals.
Smitty
I love that. I love that about you. That's the favorite thing I like about you. You like dogs. So do I. I take a dog over a human any day, every day, all day.
JB
I do like dogs. Gotta keep some.
Sheldon Day
I don't know about that one, jb.
Smitty
Oh, yeah, we've had, we've actually had Darnell go ahead and tell them the, the, the. The question.
JB
Oh, yeah. So I asked him. I said, so, like, if it came down to it, if it was. If you can only save one, it was me and his dog Ash. And you had to pick one. Who would you save? He said he would save Ash. He told me to my face, like, man to man, he would save Ash if Ash was drowning.
Smitty
I'm calling you to what, homie?
JB
Man the man to my face that he would save Ash over me. Knowing the lifespan of a dog is short. It's being real.
Smitty
Yeah.
JB
They're gonna be here 14, 15 years. He said he would say that right there before his boy, his co host, who has elevated this show to a higher level. That's crazy.
Smitty
Shout to keep it real. You just saw him though. You would too. I mean, worth 40, 50 grand and his puppies for 40, 50 grand each.
JB
I'm worth more than that though, huh? I'm worth more than that.
Smitty
I don't know that. Yeah. I mean, by the time we hit, I mean, we gotta get the show blown up like, you know, I might.
JB
Bring out this little jury brand about it. Come on.
Smitty
I mean, show me better than you can tell me. But anyway. Yeah. What kind of dogs you got?
Sheldon Day
Sensitive subject, Ab. My dogs are no longer in my possession. Story for another day off camera. But you know, I used to have. Used to have a pocket bully and a pit bull terrier mix.
Smitty
I lost just a little bit of respect. And that's a little bit of respect for you right there, huh?
JB
How you lose a movement.
Smitty
Pocket bullies. I don't think they should ever been invented, but.
Sheldon Day
But they was rescues.
Smitty
Well, that and I gave you credit for rescuing them.
Sheldon Day
But still don't got the respect.
Smitty
Not your. Not your fault. No, it's not your fault that you didn't invent the dog.
JB
The pocket boy tried to kill me though. So we had an interesting relationship.
Smitty
Pocket bullies like this big, though.
JB
No, he was the one. He had.
Smitty
He was a huge pocket bully. Yes, interesting.
JB
He tried to kill me when I first met him. That's in it in Jacksonville. Look, he getting excited. Look, Jamie's dog, he heard pocket bully. He was like, where?
Smitty
Yeah, he wants a pussy. He hadn't had pussy yet. He's only two. Anyway, Sheldon, I don't like pocket bullies. Their respiratory system's all up. They got the mix of a bulldog and A. And they should have never been made by F A M. And here's the issue I have like at the End of the day, like, it's almost damn near like a FA Ponzi scheme. Like they Ponzi scheme pocket bullies. Like, they made this thing thinking it was like a Ponzi. Pretty much damn near everything come back to F. A. M. When it comes to any type of like, scheme.
JB
And then white moms, right? White moms as well.
Smitty
White moms right there. Yeah. So just saying. I haven't seen anything good. I don't trust them. I'm just telling you everything has come back. Let's scatter. Boo. And. And Jackson dart me the other day. Who's their mom?
Steve Kim
Oh.
Smitty
Anyway, but what do I know? Sheldon, Tua, you're in the league. I know you can't say too much, but like Two and Mike McDaniels, are they followers leading each other? Oh, because I don't see a leader there. I don't see a leader there. Let me, let me, let me soften the question. Should this guy have worn Ray bans live during a live game like this?
JB
There you go. There you go. There you go.
Smitty
Should he be a designer in 67 degree weather acting as if he's in a parka and it's 22 degrees. Snow blurry. I don't. It was only 67 degrees in Cleveland. A little 21 mile an hour crosswind, but it was Cleveland 67. Basically. You live out that way. Basically. They say that's like summer. 67 in Cleveland's like summer wasn't flurry 19 degrees. This right here just gives me a bad vibe. I'm not gonna say nothing what it means to me because you're on the show, but I'm just like, to me, I. There's no way I personally me jb, not Sheldon for the audio listeners, not. No way I could play for this guy. So like, that's all I'm saying. So I don't know how Tua could play for him. But I'm just saying. Do you see anything wrong with any of that? Like, like the glasses or the hoodie or the one. One hand in the pocket maybe on his vape, the other hand on the call sheet. I don't know why two hands can't be on the call sheet. It wasn't like 20 degrees or nothing. Any. Anything. Anything you see from that?
Sheldon Day
Yeah. So his, his glasses are prescription. You know, he usually wears regular glasses. So this is where his prescription Ray Ban glasses. And then he has. He has the hood over so that they can hear. He can hear clearly. You know, sometimes when the wind coming it kind of mess. What you hearing from your head coaches or your coaches upstairs? To make sure that he's getting the communication clear so he can execute at a high level. And then, yeah, he wants to make sure that he can communicate clearly.
Smitty
Gotcha.
JB
Makes sense, though. Like hearing that breakdown. And I saw my cousin in the chat, Keith Smith said it was. It was 40 mile per hour winds.
Smitty
Keith, you live in Iowa. 49 mile an hour winds is like a category, like one tornado. Man, this guy just says anything out of Iowa. Let me tell you. Anyway, real quick, Smitty.
JB
Yeah, I know she's gotta go here in a minute.
Smitty
Okay, Bailey, real quick. Can you put this picture in? Because I want to make sure that we're a realist on planet earth, and I just emailed it to you. Bailey, can you add that picture, please, for Sheldon? Because I want to make sure that we're clear with what Sheldon said about Mike McDaniels and. And his prescription glasses. Because he said, Smitty, respectfully, he normally wears regular glasses. Yeah, it was a great point by Sheldon. Great point off my point.
JB
He did close clear glasses glasses. He usually does do that.
Smitty
But then he said he wore the designer glasses in Cleveland. They weren't in Miami. In Miami. Makes sense. He would have won the conversation in Miami because we know Sonny bad. All that big bunny performs all that. Bad bunny bad buddy. But we were in Cleveland, Smitty, and that's what it looked like that day.
JB
But he didn't know that going into it.
Smitty
No, no, no, no, no.
JB
But he already had practice. Ray Bans, though.
Smitty
Don't matter. So take the glass off then, homie.
JB
It was.
Smitty
He knew now, right? He knows now, right? He knows by now, right? He knows by now, right?
JB
You don't have contacts, homie.
Smitty
This is 17:3 in the second quarter, homie. It wasn't the kickoff, but he don't have content.
JB
Showed him prescription, so you don't need.
Smitty
To wear those in that weather.
JB
But he. He. That's all he packed.
Smitty
That's not all he had.
JB
That's all he packed.
Smitty
It's all he packed. I got it.
JB
Yeah, you don't pack two pairs of glasses.
Smitty
Got it.
JB
Listen.
Smitty
A year didn't have two glasses, guys.
JB
You coast in Kansas, you know, the midwest weather is crazy.
Smitty
I don't wear glasses. I don't wear glasses. I don't allow my coach to wear glasses. I want to see Sheldon's eyes. I want him to see my eyes so he knows if I'm real or not. Go ahead, hear me out.
JB
In the Midwest, it'll say, sunny, clear skies, bright, whatever, whatever. And then 30 minutes later, it's pouring down rain and storm. So even probably said it was gonna be sunny, like a sunny game. He brought his Ray Bans. He gets there, it's cloudy. It's this, that, and third. But that's the only guys he had. He was stuck. That's macro.
Smitty
Yeah. Joe, I've never been to Cleveland. I only recruited it for 20 years, yo. Idiot. Here's the thing. I don't appreciate his glasses.
JB
Why not?
Sheldon Day
Like, if you can't see and that's.
JB
The glass you brought to see that.
Sheldon Day
So you can read. You know, the play calls is real small.
JB
You got all these calls.
Smitty
Those are prescription glasses. Those Ray Bans designers are prescription. Yeah. Yeah. I thought he was about to go light up Oklahoma City, Huh?
JB
That's insane.
Smitty
Yeah. Look like Unabomber, don't he?
JB
What did McCann text you and say before shouting goes like, what. What do you exactly say?
Smitty
Well, going back to Sean King, he said, what a Notre Dame ass answer. Lol. And then back to aj, AJ said, lmao, Whatever that means. So nothing my ass off, huh?
JB
That means laughing my ass off.
Smitty
Yeah, because he was like, hey, we.
Sheldon Day
We might have to pull up on a funky Friday. Just me, AJ and Sean. We might just have to, you know, just have a conversation.
Smitty
Free game Friday.
JB
Free game Friday. Yeah, no, for sure. We would love that. Because I really. I really want to get you and AJ on the screen at the same time so y' all can just, like, talk through it.
Smitty
Because I hate the game. Like, reenact, like, first down, first quarter. 00.
JB
Yeah.
Smitty
And I want AJ to get up there like. Like, he's LA, because apparently he's laughing at, like, all the off coverage. And, like. Yeah. And then in his intro video, in fairness, his intro video, he. He, like.
JB
He's scorching y' all with a touchdown.
Smitty
He fits a scene ball in there. Like, boom. And it's like. He's like. He's, like, taking candy is what he kind of said.
JB
Bailey, pull it up, please, so I can see it. There. That last play, right down the scene early in the game, it's a dark. You know, one thing I remember, he said. He said that even. He said, your leader. And he said, your leader. He said, your leader said that when they walked off the bus and they came, or Obama can't walk into the field, that y' all looked over there, y' all was scared. Y' all was nervous. He said, y' all Looked and saw Bama physically, how big they were.
Smitty
Yeah.
JB
Your leader, Matt Satayo, your captain, he was the one came out of his mouth who said that. He was like, oh, like it's a rap, basically. So I. It's kind of hard to defend that. I tried to defend you, Sheldon, but that did happen. Like, that's on tape.
Sheldon Day
So, I mean, you gotta take what he says with a grain of salt. He was going through a lot at that time in his life.
Smitty
Life.
Sheldon Day
So he really wasn't focused on football. He had some off the field issues that he was dealing with. So.
JB
I don't know. Okay.
Smitty
Because AJ mentioned, like, he didn't know, like, if it was real or faker. Anyway, anyway. But anyway, man, we appreciate the hell out of you. And we'll see you next Tuesday after a big win, right?
JB
Monday night.
Sheldon Day
Come on, tap in we play.
Smitty
They got the Chiefs.
JB
They got the Chiefs, homie.
Smitty
Yeah, real. So, Ellen, like, I'm. I'll venmo you everything. Gibby sent me if you can win that game because I. I cannot, like, damn near have you on after losing to that team because, like, that team hates me.
JB
Yeah.
Smitty
So, like, that fan base hates me. I. I gotta have a. I gotta rock my Queendom shirt that day. And I need you to win that game. Regardless. I know they're playing better than anybody in the NFL. They got the best football coach in the NFL. The quarterbacks must be the best that they got all their whiteouts back from being, you know, DUI and all that. You gotta get this game. And I get that they're playing better than anybody else and better than, you know, ever. You ever played. Huh?
JB
They got the receivers back from what?
Smitty
All the. But anyway, Shelley, we'll see you, man. On Tuesday after a big win against KC Queendom.
JB
Yeah, me and Jerry, we might pull up to the game because, you know, Debbie is the man in Kansas. So we might pull up.
Smitty
Yeah, we'll fight.
NHTSA Announcer
But.
JB
Yeah, drive up there.
Smitty
All right, I'll drive.
Sheldon Day
I don't know about that, dude. That's a long drive.
JB
I'm a fly needle.
Smitty
I used to drive it all the time. It ain't. It's about. I can get to KC in like, 21 hours from my house. Straight. With the dog. With the dog.
JB
He said, that ain't that. That is. That's the 21 hours.
Smitty
It's straight shot. I just stopped for coffee and gas on me. Straight shot.
JB
No food or nothing.
Smitty
No, it's about. It's about real. It's about 11 cigars bars.
JB
Okay, that's fair.
Smitty
And Ruben said beer, so whatever. I mean.
JB
But anyway, I'm eating some hot Cheetos or something. Probably if I ride.
Smitty
Well then we'll see you on Tuesday after win against Queenom.
Sheldon Day
Man.
JB
Thanks my guy.
Smitty
Appreciate you. That would be fire. Leah Lisa.
JB
That'd be fire. I'd be like, jb, bro, we have all these master ideas on the off season. We don't do. We ain't did no live show at. At the restaurant at Cosmic. We ain't traveling with to no game together. Where at Cosm or your spot with your boy at Phil Trannies. You and I, we ain't tailgated the Charges or Rams game. Like there's so much more that the fans want from us.
Smitty
Can't tailgate no more in la.
JB
But you can.
Smitty
You can at a Dodger game.
JB
You can't at a football game. I see.
Smitty
No, not a Dodger because Dodgers is like gangster.
JB
Well, I used to live around the corner. Like I used to go Dodgers games everywhere that you say like I. I lived it. So it's kind of hard for you to say it.
Smitty
Yeah.
JB
So I don't think.
Smitty
Can you. You do a Rams and Charger. Can you tailgate there in la?
JB
I've tailgate there last year. Was it last year. Two years ago, I took out the Chargers game in la. Yeah. In the parking lot. I got me. We ran out of Range Rover. We pulled up, we had food, all types of. It was fun as hell.
Smitty
Can you still. I know the Dodgers, but I think they just.
JB
So far. Ruben goes, yeah, I know you do.
Smitty
Hey, go. He goes out of the essays. Like you.
JB
So like you.
Smitty
Hey, by the way, Cisco wanted me to let you know something.
JB
Me?
Smitty
Yeah.
JB
Oh.
Smitty
He said what? God damn this.
JB
Here.
Smitty
I mean, stop saying how many. Just put it in his attention. Let them keep feeding us.
JB
I'm gonna. I'm gonna drop on my Venmo so he know it. Go ahead, Jerry, do your thing. I'm about to find my vimo name.
Smitty
Frisco wants you to know pepas because he thinks you know so much Spanish. Like, hey. And you say ah. And the E, you say E and all that old.
JB
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Smitty
Peppas are pistachios, but in Mexico and Sienna in Sinaloa specifically, it stands for.
JB
Yeah.
Smitty
So make sure that you know that you're not giving out false information out here.
JB
I would say the name of the song in the group. That's all I was trying to tell you the name of the song. It's Called Pepas. So I, I actually like the song more now.
Smitty
Still said it wrong. Ruben said, you gotta stop, homie. You gotta stop. You're killing the culture. You say you're killing the culture on me.
JB
That's hard, homie.
Smitty
A new poll question.
JB
What homie?
Smitty
Should. Should Gibby just drop a G and just like I don't know why you keep it might nowadays. Now at this point, a hundred dollars to him is nickel and dime in us.
JB
But the chat said that you can't drop a thousand on. On here for some reason. I think the highest you could drop is like was it 9.99? Was it 500?
Smitty
So we're gonna be mad about the scent.
JB
I'm gonna be pissed over that. That adds up. Trying to find my Venmo name real quick, baby.
Smitty
Man, listen, we respect the out of what you're doing, homie, but don't have.
JB
I don't.
Smitty
You don't have to do it. I just wanted to drop that disclaimer out there. You don't have to do it just to protect us.
JB
Right? Like you don't have to do it. But we appreciate it.
Smitty
Yeah.
JB
My Venmo is in the comments though.
Steve Kim
For you.
Smitty
Yeah, they paid off the boat. You damn me.
JB
Well, all that money's not going to you of course.
Smitty
So yeah, it's going to me.
JB
So anyway, my payment gonna be crazy.
Smitty
What happened?
JB
My payment gonna be crazy next month. He said, he said, he said. I know, but I got it. He basically like mind your business. I mean like, like don't count my pocket. Like I got this. Like it's nothing.
Smitty
So it.
JB
They said five right now.
Smitty
You've been saying that though also I've been telling you. Don't, don't even bring it up no more, homie. I, I now expect him to do this every day.
JB
The problem is that we got our show.
Smitty
But that's different to me and you. I just think every day we don't even say that no more. It's everyday thing. He's now, now the intro will change. My lead in will change. Oh yes.
JB
Okay.
Smitty
I'm not gonna tell you what it's going to say, but I have Elited.
JB
Now so we're literally just not even gonna mention it now. So like he gonna drop another don't.
Smitty
Mention it no more, homie. Gibby will have. I will mention Gibby on the lead in. In some fashion shape or form.
JB
It's almost like he's sponsoring your lead in.
Smitty
That's what I'm saying. My lead in Will now have Gibby in the mix.
JB
It's like the lead in brought to.
Smitty
You by Gibby and Mike Bundy and Mike Bundy and all the others. I know Joe Cord wanted to feel wanted.
JB
Yesterday.
Smitty
He dropped a note. Joe Corey wanted to make sure. I think Joe Cord dropped the note.
JB
He dropped 100.
Smitty
Yeah. Joe Court used to be Gibby.
JB
Joe dropped the 20.
Smitty
What the.
JB
Mike Bundy said, hold on, homie. I. You ain't gonna out. You ain't gonna outdo me. Gibby.
Smitty
You didn't actually say that in summation, he didn't say that. Audio listeners. Mike Bunny did not say, you're not gonna outdo me. And now we're having war going. He just said, who will you. Yeah. Who will be here a year from now? Mike Money made a great point. Meaning I'm consistent. He back to the damn near the quarter today.
JB
Bunny said he been doing for years, homie.
Smitty
Yeah, like, he see, Mike Bunny is like, greatness is hidden in ordinary days Repeated with extraordinary commitment, consistency, homie. See, my buddy's actually doing every day. Say, in a year from now, we may not see nobody Gibby.
Steve Kim
You know what I mean?
JB
When I see Gibby no more.
Smitty
See, he made a point like, I've.
JB
Seen Mike Bunny's face. I don't know what Gibby looked like.
Smitty
You shouldn't say swear.
JB
And then this right here. Hold on.
Smitty
Ah, this.
JB
Changed the whole energy of the. What was going on. The whole energy.
Smitty
Hey, Eddie, you can't read a room, homie. Like, seriously, you can't read the room.
JB
Change the tone right now. He just changed the whole damn.
Smitty
On the show, homie. And respectfully, damn near you had you off like, momentum.
JB
Yeah, it was great. It was like rolling. It was shot for shot. And he wouldn't do a layup.
Smitty
And then this was this sense, Like, respectfully, case, thanks. Thanks for being a member, homie. Everybody wants a trophy. Give me a trophy for 15 months. You ain't dropped a set yet, fat titty.
JB
Give you laughing at y'. All. Y' all broke. That's what Gibby said. Give me laughing at y'.
Steve Kim
All.
JB
That's crazy. Oh, my God. He said. He said, everybody want a trophy. Look, everybody popping up now.
Smitty
Everybody want a trophy.
JB
Yeah. I want my segment. I want my intro segment Now.
Smitty
Rio wants to let Paris know he, like, he the one, right?
JB
Right?
Smitty
Yeah. Ridiculous. Anyway, I'll play a game. Smitty. I want to play a game.
JB
Ah, damn.
Smitty
Yeah, finish this. Brought to you by underdog Fantasy. Make sure you head over there use our promo code. Coach JB Spinny finish this.
JB
Dak Prescott is top five MVP candidate right now.
Smitty
I agree. I agree with that. I do think he is playing well. But he's also shown me this before spinning. I want to make clear here. I'm macro as we wrap the show up today on a talk that talk Tuesday. We got 15 minutes. I'm gonna be clear about this and go in depth on each one of Smitty's answers. Whether it's right, wrong or indifferent or whether I agree or disagree. I believe he is a top five MVP candidate. Now the problem is he's also been a top five MVP candidate before.
JB
Yep.
Smitty
Can you get over the hump though? Can you do something later in the season? Can you win when it matters? I don't know if the defense is worthy of even having an MVP candidate because they're not going to do nothing. So at the end of the day this all for not again. Just like he has been all for not in his whole career. So I agree with he is right now. But I also agree this is who he's been before.
JB
That's fair.
Smitty
So finish this mini Brought to you by underdog. The Chiefs are.
JB
The second best team in the NFL right now.
Smitty
Really? I'm gonna say they are still the AFC favorite.
JB
Cap, you know what AFC favorite is?
Smitty
Be honest. If you're not a fan of this team being on a real show here.
JB
Yeah.
Smitty
If you weren't a fan of the. Of. Of the. Of the Colts, you really don't have that faith that says all right, I'm sold. This is the team. Like come on now. They've had a good day. You could have argued. They could have beat the Rams. But I could also argue they should have lost to Denver. They should have lost games too. So let's be honest. Are we really fully confident that this is the team to up to throne the guys that have been there five years straight or whatever the. The Chiefs have been.
JB
You've been wishy washy though. You've been. All right, we're not gonna say nothing.
Smitty
None.
JB
You've been wishy washy before the season started and at the beginning of the season you were saying that the cheat. I thought you were gonna say nothing. You were saying that the Chiefs done. They were good. Kelsey is washed now. Now you're saying you're not. You're confident the coach can beat them. Yes, homie. I'm sticking on what I said, homie. Reuben. What?
Smitty
Listen, I agree.
JB
I'm thinking what I said Name the weakness for the coach. Put it like that. Tell me their weakness.
Smitty
There's no. There's no weakness right now. The issue is, are you fully in faith? Like, it's like SC to me. It's like. It's like. It's like, you know, Miami to me. I've never been sold on Miami. I've never been sold on usc because they scare me. They scare me, homie.
JB
Like, you don't trust Indiana Jones.
Smitty
No, I've been. I agree with proback Freddie Mac. You've been saying this for every year. You've been saying about Lamar Jackson. You've been saying about the cold.
JB
He's talking about you. You. About the Chiefs. Trust me.
Smitty
How about you?
JB
He's on my chew and the Chiefs. Trust me.
Smitty
Talking about you. I don't. He know. He don't never talk to me.
JB
Trust me. Watch.
Smitty
Trust me. He don't talk about me.
Sheldon Day
I watch.
JB
I can't wait till you respond. He gonna clear it up.
Smitty
It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Probacks Lady Mac is saying. You've been saying this for three years. Lamar Jackson, Colts. I mean, we gotta. I mean, show the glasses. Can you show this homer? It's who you are, homie.
JB
Talking about the Chiefs. Thank you, Freddie Mac.
Smitty
I didn't see that. It's like. He's like, give me to me.
JB
Appreciate that. Appreciate that.
Smitty
We've had this for three years.
JB
Yeah, but I didn't say we were the super bowl champions.
Smitty
But you've been saying this for three years.
JB
No, I didn't. Last year, if you remember, I got a viral video of me kind of going in on AR5, actually, I'm going against my team being pissed off. What are you talking about? And I wasn't a believer at first, and I had to go on this show and apologize multiple times and admit how I was wrong. That's the realness of it.
Smitty
And admitting you're wrong and apologizing, two different things. You don't need to apologize for being wrong. I gotta teach you. So much more left in life.
JB
Can we finish the game?
Steve Kim
Yes.
Smitty
Finish this mini. Powered by underdog, Jalen Hurts.
JB
Is a great leader for the Eagles.
Smitty
That's like a horrible backhanded compliment. Like, this might be the worst backhanded compliment I've ever seen a brother give another brother. That might be racist. Reverse.
JB
Call him a great leader.
Smitty
Yeah, that. Like, say it again. What you exactly said and how you said it. Go.
JB
Jalen Hurts is a great leader.
Smitty
Not that energetic at all, but go.
JB
Ahead. Hey, baby. Your smile just lights up a room. Your eyes, that chocolate skin, that natural hair. I know you had a long night, so I want you to go here. Taking stuff off. Go shower after the show. I'm gonna give you something to eat. Give you some hash brown, center tots, a little breakfast, little wrap or a bowl. I'm gonna turn these lights off so you can relax. And whatever you need, let me know. I'm gonna rub your feet now. I just think that he just. He's a hell of a leader. Like, he's a leader. He's a winner. But he's not like great. He's just a leader in the winner. Why are you making his face for? Disgusting. Don't ever do that live on the show. I did.
Smitty
I did that on purpose because that's what he made me feel. Let me.
JB
You don't like love?
Smitty
I don't like love.
JB
Oh, okay.
Smitty
I like love the running back at Notre Dame.
JB
Jeremiah, you told me that you envy people that's in like marriage.
Sheldon Day
Huh?
JB
You say you envy people who's in a happy relationship, but now you say you don't like love.
Smitty
I. I do envy you, but that doesn't mean I want to be it.
JB
So you don't. So you envy it, but you don't like it. That's weird.
Smitty
Yeah. Because. Because, man, let me finish this game and then I gotta. Hold that thought.
JB
We got nine minutes.
Smitty
What happened to my thing? Some move. Somebody moved my. Did you take over my thing?
JB
Barely hacked you.
Smitty
I think finish this.
JB
CMC is a badass white boy.
Smitty
I agree. But I don't trust him. See, again. I don't trust him. He get hurt tomorrow. Like it is one of those things.
JB
That's football though. Everybody can get hurt tomorrow.
Smitty
CMC is still when healthy the best running back. That's what I'm gonna say again. Homer Glasses.
JB
He's just not though finish this.
Smitty
The MVP so far is.
JB
Jonathan Taylor.
Smitty
But he went. He can't win it. Already had a whole 30 minute conversation.
JB
All right, sorry. I'mma answer and tell you who the people are going to pick. Like. Like what's going to. Actually not who I'm picking, but who. What's the real answer? The MVP is Patrick Mahomes.
Steve Kim
They.
JB
They want. They want that to happen. Trust me. The league wants that.
Smitty
That of course.
JB
So that's the real.
Smitty
Or Aaron Rodgers or somebody like that is who they want the lead.
JB
I like Aaron because Aaron goes against the grain scene. They don't like them. You know.
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Smitty
Kyrie do it. Stephen A's hype. Aaron does it. He don't say nothing.
JB
Like my body been since then. But that's another conversation.
Smitty
You got it?
JB
I did.
Smitty
Oh, you had to do it, huh?
JB
Late last year.
Smitty
You didn't want to, though.
JB
I didn't have to. I got it late.
Smitty
Now, in retrospect, would you wish you didn't?
JB
I didn't want to do it then.
Smitty
I know. I'm just saying, like, I didn't get.
JB
The booster or not. I just got the initial because they just. I mean, you guys remember.
Smitty
No. They threw it on you. I know they did it. I know so many people that were forced to do it at the school district level for their teachers or they'll be forced to be fired.
JB
So that's another piece, too. My wife as a nurse, she literally had to do it or quit. Quitting was an option for us at the time. I wasn't making enough for her to just quit. So she had.
Smitty
Hey, Ruben. Ruben forced her hand. He did a. He did a religious thing. Religious belief.
JB
Yeah, I know. I said. But so part of me, too, though. I'm like, damn, I feel up my wife gotta get this.
Smitty
And then.
JB
And then I just. I don't know, Like. I just don't get, like. It's weird.
Smitty
Real. Exactly. Real. Real. Hey, real. By the way, how you know, how you know the difference between a king and a queen when you don't even know the difference between a boy and a girl? The liberals are crazy. Hey, let's dive into this real quick.
JB
Yep.
Smitty
I gotta get your take on this, homie.
JB
Real. Shut up.
Smitty
Speaking of this whole thing, I envy you guys and your families and all the. I envy. But damn, homie, what is going on with Steph Curry and Aisha Curry? Homie, can you please fill me in on what's going on? Because I saw KD's tweet. I saw all these people going at Steph. Can you. Can you tell me what's happening? You don't know what's happening?
JB
Is there something like, new? Are you talking about the old. About her being on a podcast a couple weeks ago.
Smitty
It's now. It's now that. Accompanied with this picture floating around with her and Drake. And now they're saying that this motherfucker's like. Like they're taking shots at Steph, homie. Peers, former players of. With this.
JB
Like, ain't no way KD put something.
Smitty
I mean, I'm telling you, it ain't the real.
JB
We know. Katie. He hit him up like I don't think that's a real. I don't think.
Smitty
Ain't no way, homie. Let me see people in the chat. Can you guys chime in on this?
JB
Yeah, Ain't no way. Kevin Durant.
Smitty
Kevin Durant. I thought I figured you would be on top of this.
JB
I mean only thing I know is.
Smitty
She was break down the original issue, break down the room. I had a layer yesterday. She was kind of breaking it down for me. She was kind of telling me the whole thing. He was like. And so we gotta. I there. There was a broad actually that. Let me send this to Bailey real quick. There was a broad actually Smitty that came out and was like hot. She was actually pissed off about it and I wanted to show it because.
JB
Listen, well, yeah, people are. Have been upset because they feel like seven such a great just dude and he's good husband and family man. Never had any issues that came out publicly obviously great player on the court, yada yada yada. And oftentimes Aisha, she'll be on these different podcasts and she makes comments like oh I, I didn't want to get married or I didn't like Steph at first or you know, like she made a comment.
Smitty
I don't know where it is, man.
JB
She made a comment about like basically want like wanting like compliments from other guys and stuff like that. And. And again it's two way street on one side. You gotta kind of be smart and like know, know who you're married to and understand that there's a certain thing that you probably just should just keep to yourself or shouldn't even put yourself in position to even accept any backlash.
Smitty
It's never good enough for broads.
JB
You know, on the, on the other end too though, it's social media and people will clip stuff for eight seconds or whatever and then put it out out of purport. Like for example, like with her saying she like she want attention. Like you know, she wants attention sometimes.
Smitty
Whatever that means to me it was never love though.
JB
Like all, all women want attention. Even they in a relationship they want to test you like a woman. A woman likes to hear to get compliments. They don't mean they want to go cheat or they don't love their man. Anyone a woman like to get oh you look nice today. Like that's a good feeling for a woman. That's. That's a normal. But again it's a bad look because of who she's with. When you're with who you with, you really can't be like, you got to just kind of keep it silent, keep it PC, keep it smart, because it's gonna come out that way. So, you know, I don't know. I. I say, oh, I, speaking on, like Mary Culpa, say that because I know how I am about my marriage. Comment on my.
Smitty
I. I agree. Here's the issue, though. To me, I don't ever believe there was love. Then, because I want to. I'll show you this video and kind of in summation, you could think it all you want, but I don't. When you start to say it loud publicly at other people's platforms, you make that insecure looking looking. Whether he is insecure or not, you make him look inferior. And you know damn well he's been the breadwinner and giving you the best life ever. If you're that unappreciative, homie, publicly, I got a fundamental problem with you. And I think this is a lot of people, not everyone. I know there's some good women out there in this chat, Specifically out there, period. But take a look at this video right here because this sums it up for me.
JB
If it's $50,000 a year, 50,060.
Smitty
I'm sorry, I changed my answer.
JB
Would you rather be a side chick to a star NBA basketball player or be married to a loyal, average man?
Smitty
I would much rather be married to a loyal, average man than be a side side chick to anybody ever in my entire life of living.
JB
It ain't happening. Okay, what's your answer?
Smitty
Yes, I would be rather married to.
JB
A loyal, average man, nine to five.
Smitty
I'm not being a side chick.
JB
Okay, so what, what, what makes you ladies so different? Because I feel like most people say that, but when it comes down to it, we're talking about an average man who makes, let's say, $60,000 a year versus average man versus NBA. Listen, versus an NBA basketball player. That's a star max contract.
Smitty
I didn't say nothing about no sex day.
JB
What's the average income for an American man? Ain't no way 60s crazy. Listen, a hundred thousand dollars is not an average man. That's not average.
Smitty
I'm talking still below average.
JB
So who you taking if it's $50,000 a year? $50,000.
Smitty
Thousand. Sixty. I'm sorry, I changed my answer. Telling you about these hoes. That's who they are, homie. They're emotional roller coasters. That's who they are.
JB
Men are measured by our pockets.
Smitty
I told you, homie. Burger King, the drive through All. It's never wrong, homie. The Burger King drive through will never be wrong. That's why you can't trust a. Like, she always looking out there. She always thinking it's better. Oh, I got better. It always comes down to that, homie. You throw the dollar amount at her. Her ass reneged quicker than a goddamn space game. She reneged so goddamn fast. Oh, now I'd be the side bitch. See, you're. You're a toss around. That's what you are. You give the bad. You give a bad rap bad name to all the women in here that are really legit. You give them a bad rap, homie. That's what they are. It's a generation. This new generation of.
JB
It's two sides to it, though. I'll be real like women. You're right. Women. Most women are looking at men and they measure their pocketbooks. That's a heavy. It's a heavy piece of why they. What they decide. Because they want that comfort. They want that protection. On the flip side, too, though, your bird, your Birkin analogy is right. But it's because men, we look at the physical, we're shallow too, in another way. It's like if she just looked good in the hell she had a fat ass.
Sheldon Day
And.
JB
And we wanna. We wanna sleep with them, we'll bag.
Smitty
Her so she wasn't like she was pockets.
JB
And that's what it comes down to, man. We looking around. Men looking around too. For other. As soon as soon as the next batter is around, you're gonna go her too. So they're gonna do the same thing. But it's financial we're doing.
Smitty
Don't say differently. Don't call them. Here's the thing I gotta say.
JB
Shut the up.
Smitty
Anyway, real quick, I want to be clear here. You weren't a notcher. You're six. Number one, I saw the rolls coming over the belly button. Number two, why don't you get off your dead fat ass and go make you another 60. So now you got 120 and now you make a family. Oh, that's the problem I got. See, you just expect me to pay you to be in a relationship, homie. How about you go make your side, but you rather be a side to another cause your ass wants to hand out. Give me, give me, give me ass. That's why y' all ain't. I'm out. I got someone at my door. Mexican, I got ice to here, deal with. I'll see you guys tomorrow.
JB
You.
Smitty
This is the real jb. You better find the real quick.
Date: October 21, 2025
Host: Jason Brown (JB)
Co-Host: "Big Smitty" (Darnell Smith)
Menace Monday Guest: Steve Kim
Special Guest: Sheldon Day (Washington Commanders DT, Notre Dame alum)
Main Theme:
A rapid-fire, unfiltered talk through NFL, college football, and real life, anchored by Coach JB's hot takes on Monday Night Football's doubleheader format, the dysfunction in Miami (Tua/McDaniel), football awards debate, a “Dying/Dead/Buried” midseason team “game,” and wide-ranging college ball and NFL discussions with Steve Kim and Commanders DT Sheldon Day. Episode highlights Miami's need for grown-man leadership, revisits MVP logic, and dives deep into the essence of leadership and hustle in football and life.
[10:04 – 16:39]
“I fell asleep last night…any before the second quarter…there's no pizzazz no more, homie.” — JB [11:52]
“Why are we shorted on the weekend…when we could watch with our kids, family, barbecue, whatever?” — Smitty [15:03]
[16:40 – 18:03]
“It’s a match made in heaven, isn’t it, Smitty? Two followers being led by each other. Let that sink in, homie.” — JB [17:15]
[18:03 – 24:06]
[27:01 – 36:58]
“The MVP award has just changed to a quarterback award…Should be its own NFL QB award. Then the MVP should go to everyone else.” — JB [28:53]
[38:21 – 42:18]
[43:08 – 52:08]
“He’s who we said he was…Bucks get a pass now with their five and two schedule, homie?” — JB [47:02]
[05:33 – 07:31]
[73:37 – 125:08]
“Most o-line coaches I know are the best recruiters, but in-game strategy…they lose to superior minds.” — JB [83:19]
[133:05 – 168:54]
“Turn the tape on…we run to the ball, play with low pad level. I don’t think the Cowboys moved us off the D line.” — Sheldon Day [150:57]
“Two followers being led by each other. Let that sink in, homie.” — JB [17:15]
“Running back position will never win again…Quarterback needs to have its own MVP.” — Smitty [28:41]
“There’s no pizzazz no more, homie.” — JB [11:52]
“Baker’s who we said he was.” — JB [47:02]
“Love Cristobal…as a recruiter. Head coaching, though? You can see the in-game strategy where he kind of loses to superior minds.” — JB [83:19]
“You lose at home as a double-digit favorite…This is not the first time it’s happened.” — Steve Kim [80:26]
“Just pull up the tape against the Cowboys…We run to the ball, play with low pad level.” — Sheldon Day [150:57]