MENTALITY IT TAKES TO BE A PRO-BOXER || LOLO HARRIS || EPISODE 051

Summary

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The Code To Winning – Episode 051

"Mentality It Takes To Be a Pro-Boxer" with Lolo Harris

Host: Kagiso Dikane
Guest: Lolo Harris (Pro Boxer)
Release Date: September 2, 2025

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Overview

In this episode of The Code To Winning, host Kagiso Dikane sits down with rising professional boxer Lolo Harris. At just 21, Harris boasts an 11-1 record and shares candid insights into the mentality, discipline, and experiences that have shaped his boxing career—ranging from sparring in front of Floyd Mayweather to training alongside Terence Crawford. The conversation covers everything from the stark differences between street fighting and professional boxing, the mental challenges of the sport, strategies for continual growth, and the importance of identity and self-belief in the ring.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Lolo’s Boxing Origin Story

• Started Young: Began boxing at age 6, guided and coached by his father.
• Early Discipline: “He always had me fighting in the apartments with other little kids... and always had me doing like 5 sets of like 50 pushups at the age of 6 years old.” (00:02)
• Turning Serious: Realized his talent and took the sport seriously after starting sparring at age 8. (03:12)

Adapting and Fighting Style

• Strategy Over Emotion: Discusses the difference between street fighting and boxing—“In a street fight, you’re not really thinking. You’re going off of anger. [In boxing,] you’re going off of what you’re thinking and thinking ability and skills and so on.” (05:05)
• Boxer Puncher: Considers himself a "boxer puncher," which combines technical skill with powerful punching—likened to Muhammad Ali. (07:44)
• Adaptability: Stresses the need to adjust fighting style to different opponents: “If it’s a counter puncher, if it’s a pressure fighter... You gotta be the one as a fighter in there to adjust to that style.” (08:32)

Experience in Top Camps

• Meeting Mayweather: “I met him when I was 16 years old... I got to spar in front of him in Vegas. So that was crazy, just him watching me spar. He fell in love with my style.” (05:59)
• Reconnecting with Floyd: Re-sparred in front of Mayweather at age 20, leaving a lasting impression.
• Training with Terence Crawford: Shares a coach and camp with Crawford, who is both inspiration and like family. (14:22)

Mentality & Mindset

• Hardest Part of Boxing: Admits that for him, there isn’t a single “hardest thing”—he’s conditioned for the rigors. (05:27)
• Dealing with Loss: Faced his only loss at 16 due to not making weight, bounced back stronger under better guidance:

  “Everything happens for a reason... I bounced back with, by getting with the right team... not even that, just getting better as a fighter inside the ring.” (11:55)

• Biggest Advice Received:

  “To be myself. Every time I step in the ring, even if it’s just sparring, to be myself. When I’m myself in the ring, it’s hard for somebody to deal with somebody like me.” (16:48)

Training and Preparation

• Camp Routine: Trains 6-7 days a week, involving “a lot of running, swimming, strength, conditioning, and boxing” (10:55)
• Training Duration: “Probably like seven, eight total [hours] a day.” (17:25)
• Holistic Focus: “We focus on every little thing... the highs and the lows, the weaknesses, everything. We focus on all of that because at the end of the day, we’re getting better.” (17:38)

Career Trajectory and Goals

• Short & Long-term:

  “I want to be the best Lolo I can be in this boxing, you know, I want to leave a mark for sure in this sport... and take care of my family...” (12:42)

• Vision for Future: Sees himself as “successful” in five years. (20:36)
• Path to Titles: Competes at 140 lbs (junior welterweight); focus is on “one fight at a time and just to keep winning” to advance in the rankings. (19:54)

Thoughts on Boxing Greats & the Sport

• Favorite Boxer: “My favorite fighter right now will be Terence Crawford.” (08:58)
• Legacy & Inspiration: Admits he hasn’t watched much old-school boxing, despite respecting names like Ali, Hagler, and Mayweather. (21:10)
• Mount Rushmore: Host names Ali, Tyson, Floyd Mayweather, and leaves the fourth spot open for Lolo Harris. Harris appreciates the gesture. (21:39)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Early Training:
  “I was always doing like 5 sets of like 50 pushups at the age of 6 years old.” – Lolo Harris [00:02]
• Street Fight vs. Boxing:
  “In a street fight... you’re not really thinking. You’re going off anger. In a boxing ring, you’re going off your thinking ability and skills.” – Lolo Harris [05:05]
• On Meeting Mayweather:
  “He fell in love with my style and fell in love with how proud I was as a person, probably, and then went on from there.” – Lolo Harris [05:59]
• Personal Philosophy:
  “To be myself... when I’m myself in the ring, it’s hard for somebody to deal with somebody like me.” – Lolo Harris [16:46]
• Ultimate Goal:
  “I want to be the best lolo I can be in this boxing... and take care of my family.” – Lolo Harris [12:42]
• Definition of Winning:
  “Being successful, I would say. I mean, there’s no other way to put it. Just being successful.” – Lolo Harris [22:18]
• On Future Vision:
  “Successful. That’s the key word.” – Lolo Harris [20:42]
• Host’s Mount Rushmore Suggestion:
  “Floyd has to be there. And… I think the fourth spot could potentially be a Lolo Harris one day.” – Kagiso Dikane [21:42]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Boxing Origin & Early Training: 00:02 – 03:12
• Street Fights vs. Boxing: 04:17 – 05:10
• Sparring for Mayweather / Mayweather’s Reaction: 05:43 – 06:51
• Fighting Style & Adaptability: 07:44 – 08:32
• Favorite Boxer / Training with Crawford: 08:52 – 09:02, 14:12 – 14:45
• Mentality & Overcoming Loss: 11:30 – 12:33
• Routine & Training Schedule: 10:55 – 11:30, 17:21 – 17:38
• Career Goals: 12:42 – 13:06, 20:26 – 20:45
• Advice from Mentor/Dad: 16:46 – 16:48
• On the Path to Titles: 19:46 – 20:11
• Boxing Greats (Mount Rushmore): 21:10 – 21:42
• Definition of Winning: 22:18 – 22:35

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Final Words

Lolo Harris exemplifies discipline, humility, and relentless drive—attributes he attributes to his upbringing, team, and personal philosophy of authenticity. In his words:

“When I’m myself in the ring, it’s hard for somebody to deal with somebody like me.” [16:48]

His vision: keep improving, stay true to himself, take care of family, and become a success both in and outside the ring. For him, winning is simply “being successful.” [22:18]

Follow Lolo Harris: [@lolo_decodis_1 on Instagram] (22:49)

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Transcript

[Interviewer]

How did you end up getting into boxing?

[Lolo Harris]

Well, you know, I started when I was six years old. You know, my dad got me into boxing when I was, when I was six, you know, he always had me fighting in the apartments with other little kids and stuff like that, you know, and always had me doing like push ups. I was always doing like 5 sets of like 50 pushups at the age of 6 years old.

[Interviewer]

Do you adjust your fighting style according to who you're fighting with?

[Lolo Harris]

Yeah, yeah, that's for every boxer that steps in the ring when they're, they're fighting against a style they gotta, you know, if it's a counter puncher, if it's a pressure fighter or, you know, or both, you never know what you get. You gotta be the one as a fighter in there to adjust to that style.

[Interviewer]

I know there's one thing that you definitely don't like, it's the 11 you like, but the one you probably like, you don't like that as well. However, I often notice people always have a great mentality setback and a comeback where they know that they have a why and so forth as well. When you look back at your loss, how did that impact your mindset and how did you bounce back stronger? The code to winning. Insights you need today to seize the world tomorrow. Today we have a very, very unique guest, special guest, amazing story. He is a professional boxer with the same trainers as Terence Crawford. My favorite boxer right now. It's going to be an interesting interview. We're going to be learning a bit more about like him being in the Mayweather camp. He's only 21 years of age, born in San Bernardino, California. Without further ado, our amazing guest today in the studio in the City of Angels, we're going to welcome Lolo Harris. How are you doing, brother?

[Lolo Harris]

I'm doing good. I appreciate you having me.

[Interviewer]

Awesome stuff. Thank you so much, man. I want to get straight into it, man. Like, I mean, 21 years old, I don't know why I thought like you or 22, must have been like an era there. 21 years old, 11 and one record, personally. Where are you right now in your boxing career?

[Lolo Harris]

Where am I in my boxing career right now? Well, I'm 12 fights in, you know, I'm only 21 years old. I'm still growing, you know, getting better and better each fight, you know, and we're just taking it step by step right now. Just keep climbing, trying to climb ranks. That's all.

[Interviewer]

Awesome stuff. I mean, you're Lolo Harris. How about you? Tell a bit of our guests a bit about yourself, like the history. How did you end up getting into boxing?

[Lolo Harris]

Well, you know, I started when I was six years old. You know, my dad got me into boxing when I was, when I was six. You know, he always had me fighting in the apartments with other little kids and stuff like that, you know, and always had me doing like push ups, you know, I was always doing like five sets of like, like 50 push ups at the age of six years old. And so I was always strong, you know, and already like athletic, you know. And then, you know, we just went from there after, you know, fighting with different kids and things like that.

[Interviewer]

And was the year in California you were in, like, when did you start getting trainers and all that kind of stuff? When did you start getting a professional trainer? When you, when you started taking like the sports serious?

[Lolo Harris]

I mean, I always just, I always took it serious, you know, but when I would say when I really got like more into it. Into it, I would say when I started competing.

[Interviewer 2]

Okay.

[Lolo Harris]

Or I would say actually when I started sparring, though, which was at kind of like at the age of 8 years old, seeing, you know, my potential, like, oh, I'm really good at this sport, you know, and as I got older and older, you know, to see, seeing that, you know, I can fight so say at the age of 8 years old. Yeah.

[Interviewer]

So I, I personally, for me, I finished high school like in 2010 or so. But looking back in, in high school, I. There's a lot of, I would say just stupid school fights that, you know, you know, I was involved in and stuff with friends and you usually get over, over small things, disputes, misunderstandings, and you get over it as well. However, I've noticed many people say a street fight and boxing is completely different. Can you kind of like give the disparities and the differences between the two? Have you been in both? First of all?

[Lolo Harris]

I have, but I would say the last street fight I've been in is probably like middle school. I haven't fought in a street fight in so long, I don't really remember it like that.

[Interviewer 2]

Okay.

[Lolo Harris]

But it is a big difference.

[Interviewer]

In what way?

[Lolo Harris]

Well, in street fights it's like people are just like, just trying to take your head off.

[Interviewer]

I love the same thing with boxing, man.

[Lolo Harris]

Yeah, I mean, same thing.

[Interviewer]

Your last fight, you wanted to take the guy's head off, bro. So what are you talking about?

[Lolo Harris]

Well, it's more strategy to it though. It's more strategy to it when you're boxing inside the ring. Than in a street fight, you're not really thinking. You're going off of anger.

[Interviewer 2]

Okay.

[Lolo Harris]

In a street fight, when you're in a boxing ring, you're not really going off of anger.

[Interviewer 2]

Okay.

[Lolo Harris]

Going off of what you're thinking and thinking ability and skills and so on. So.

[Interviewer]

And then mentally, what's one of the hardest things when you're doing boxing? Because I noticed people start speaking about, like, your legs. I once watched a fight, actually, with your Uncle Levi, and when one of the guy was getting up, it's like, oh, look, his legs, his legs. And like, what's the mentality behind that? I don't fully understand.

[Lolo Harris]

I don't know what. Well, what I would say is the. The hardest thing in boxing for you personally? For me personally, I'm. I wouldn't. I can't tell you. I'm kind of like, used to. Used to everything that I do. So I don't know what the. What the hardest thing is. I would say in boxing is.

[Interviewer 2]

Okay.

[Interviewer]

And I mean, you were in the May. May with a camp game. Can you kind of give us a bit of that experience when you met him and, like, being around there and like, how was it, like, the feeling with one of the greatest boxers?

[Lolo Harris]

Oh, man, it's great. It wasn't actually. Actually, it wasn't a camp.

[Interviewer 2]

Okay.

[Lolo Harris]

It was just. I met him when I was 16 years old. That was the first time I met him. And he got to see me spar and spar in Vegas. I got to spar in front of him in Vegas. So that was crazy, just him watching me spar. He fell in love with my style and fell in love with how proud I was as a person, probably, and then went on from there. You know, I came back years later when I was 20 years old and got to spar in front of him again, and he was like, man, you know, you look familiar. I was like, you don't remember me from when you seen me sparring at 16 years old? And I kind of. I guess I refreshed his memory, like, oh, yeah, Told me his team's been looking for me, trying to get in contact with me, and yeah, man, we just went from there. I like Floyd. He's a cool guy. I respect him a lot.

[Interviewer]

And for someone who doesn't know what sparring is. What is sparring?

[Lolo Harris]

Sparring is basically just practice. Practice before. Before a fight or just practice in general going against somebody else in the ring. But yeah, just practice, practice. Basically, yeah.

[Interviewer]

I grew up watching Floyd. Matter of fact, the Pacquiao fight. I was in South Africa at that time and because of the time zone, I think we had like a big. It was in Vegas. Yeah, it was in Vegas. It was probably. I remember it was in Vegas. And time difference between Johannesburg and Las Vegas, I think was probably nine hours. And so we were watching it in the early hours of the morning, I think, like four or five o' clock in the morning. But just looking back at that, what, what's, what's your style of fight? Like, what's kind of like your style?

[Lolo Harris]

I would consider myself as a boxer puncher.

[Interviewer 2]

Okay, Boxer puncher.

[Interviewer]

And what is that?

[Lolo Harris]

That's being able to box and then being able to punch too, with it. Like having some, some, some snap on your punch.

[Interviewer]

So like Muhammad Ali?

[Lolo Harris]

Yeah, I would say boxer puncher. Yeah, like Muhammad Ali. That's a good one.

[Interviewer 2]

Okay.

[Interviewer]

One of the things I also noticed, like, there's obviously with like your 11 record, it's chess. What if you meet like somebody that's got a similar, like, fighting style to you? What if you meet someone that's a bit more like on the, like a counter attack? You know what I'm saying? I don't know. Like, what are the certain terms in terms of like, striking all that? Like, do you adjust your fighting style according to who you're fighting with?

[Lolo Harris]

Yeah, yeah. As for every boxer that steps in the ring when they're. They're fighting against a style, they gotta, you know, if it's a counter puncher, if it's a pressure fighter or, you know, or both, you never know what you get. You got to be the one as a fighter in there to adjust to that style, you know, so.

[Interviewer 2]

Okay.

[Interviewer]

And then who's your favorite boxer?

[Lolo Harris]

Like my favorite fighter right now?

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Lolo Harris]

My favorite fighter right now will be Terence Crawford.

[Interviewer 2]

Okay.

[Lolo Harris]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

So we have a lot in common, right?

[Lolo Harris]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

All right. Now, before I kind of get into the other, these other ones, what would you say is probably like in your career, I mean, 11, one. And you like the trajectory that you're going at with the lows? 11 wins, who would you say style are you modeling the most after?

[Lolo Harris]

I don't. I wouldn't say anybody's style, actually. I would say I got my own.

[Interviewer]

All right.

[Lolo Harris]

My own style that I'm that, That I fight like that should. I was just say that's just me. In my opinion, I got my own style.

[Interviewer 2]

Okay.

[Lolo Harris]

Boxing, so.

[Interviewer]

All right. And is there anyone that it's closely related to then, or is it completely like your kind of style?

[Lolo Harris]

Completely my style.

[Interviewer 2]

Okay.

[Lolo Harris]

I love my style.

[Interviewer 2]

I love that.

[Lolo Harris]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Now I love the road. There's so much confidence in your, like, I mean, I only saw two of them in the highlight reels, but there's a level of, of, of. Of grit and like, it's just persist. And you said it's not even your best fight. The one I saw when you were completely, like, striking the guy, like, and it was just. You were relentless, you know, and so that's one of the things I'd say that's different with the street fight, is that man's. After a few punches, stamina starts, like, kicking you in. And of course, it's something you do when you're super young. I've never, like, been involved in that since probably like 2009, 2010, high school kind of stuff. But, like, looking back, it's like, yo, the stamina just kicks in. But I know, like, with boxes, the mentality side of things, a lot of, like, stamina is involved strategy, understanding the opponent. And so what does preparation look like for you in, like, a fight night? Do you have any rituals, any mantras, anything that you end up, like, doing as you prepare for a fight night?

[Lolo Harris]

Well, when we're in camp, yeah, I can't give away too much, but I will say we're training every day, basically. Monday through Saturday, you know, and sometimes even on Sundays too. A lot of running, swimming, strength, conditioning, and boxing all in, just combining that all in one, just every single day, you know, so it's no days off in camp. That's how us fighters always come in shape.

[Interviewer]

Nah, I love that, man. And now I know there's one thing that you definitely don't like. It's the 11 you like, but the one you probably like, you don't like that as well. However, I often notice people always have a great mentality setback and a comeback where they know that they have a why and so forth as well. When you look back at your loss, how did that impact your mindset and how did you bounce back stronger?

[Lolo Harris]

Well, first off, everything happens for a reason, you know, everything is always in God's, God's plan. So, you know, I took the loss when I was 16 due to not knowing how to cut weight, so weight problems, you know, like that. And I bounced back with, by getting with the right team, the right team in boxing, you know, the right professional team that's going to know how to cut weight the right way and give me gems and help me out and with things, little things like that, and just not even that, just getting better as a fighter inside the ring. So I would say yeah, that.

[Interviewer]

And then what's your, what's your ultimate goal like short term and long term right now in your boxing career?

[Lolo Harris]

Well, I want to be the best, best lolo I can be in the sport, you know, going, yeah, going long term. I want to be the best lolo I can be in this boxing, you know, I want to leave a mark for sure in this sport, you know and yeah, and take care of my family, me and my family.

[Interviewer]

And obviously giving, I notice a lot of boxes as well there all. Is this like a historical background as to why you end up pursuing like the sport is. Was there any upbringing that kind of like led to you to pursue the specific goal and dream to become a professional boxer?

[Lolo Harris]

Nah, I wouldn't say so.

[Interviewer 2]

Okay.

[Lolo Harris]

I wouldn't say so.

[Interviewer]

Zero whatsoever. Just your dad started like making you do 50 push ups and before you knew it you started training with Terence Crawford.

[Lolo Harris]

Yeah, praying a lot, you know, Praying a lot and yeah, basically, yeah, my dad getting me started just took off, took off from there. So.

[Interviewer]

No, I love that man. So now like I, I'm grateful like to hear about your experience like you know, training in front of Mayweather, seeing him, meeting him like when you were 16 and older as well. Right now you have the same trainers as Terence Crawford, you know, and you in kind of the same camp, right?

[Interviewer 2]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Okay, same camp. And how does it feel knowing that not only do you have the same trainer but you amongst one of the people you look up to on a day to day basis?

[Lolo Harris]

It feels great, you know, because I feel like my team is not just a team to me or Crawford is not just, you know, just any just, just Crawford. To me they're like family, family, family away from home, you know, all my coaches, not even just them, my teammates, everyone, just like a family away from home.

[Interviewer]

So no. And the reason why I also like Terence Crawford, it's not the fact that he's such a great boxer, but it's the humility that he has with the record he has and what a relentless like fighter it is, which I told you and I want to ask you this question. The fight, one of the biggest fights of the decade is going to be happening. Obviously you see him on a base day to day, like on a regular basis. You guys got the same trainer. I don't want you to be biased in the question I'm about to ask you right now. So the fight of the decade is about to happen September Terence Crawford and Canelo, one on one. In your opinion, I'm gonna put this out on social media. I'm letting you know, in your opinion, who is going to win the fight of the decade?

[Lolo Harris]

In my opinion, Terrence Crawford.

[Interviewer]

Are you being non biased?

[Lolo Harris]

Non biased.

[Interviewer]

Why?

[Lolo Harris]

Because I know who he is in that ring and I know who Terrence Crawford is. You know, I've been in camps, been in so many camps with him. I've shared the ring with him myself, and I just know what he's capable of doing in that ring.

[Interviewer]

Nah, man. And I appreciate that, man. I appreciate that now. I mean, 21 years old, 11 and 1. What's the vision and trajectory for Lolo Harris.

[Lolo Harris]

Me being 21 years old? You know, you said the vision. Yes, the vision for me just to continue just being me, you know, being me and. And getting better and getting better and better in this sport and just continuing to advance.

[Interviewer]

Okay, I liked this one. I want to touch on as well, what is the most powerful piece of advice that you've received that you've carried into every fight and training session from mentor, father figure, dad, who else?

[Lolo Harris]

To be myself.

[Interviewer 2]

Okay.

[Lolo Harris]

I would say to be myself. I get that a lot from my coach, my coaches and my dad. You know, every time I step in the ring, even if it's just sparring, to be myself. So every time I spar or when I step, you know, when I fight in the ring, I was going with that mentality to be myself because when I'm myself in the ring, it's hard for somebody to deal with somebody like me. So.

[Interviewer]

Awesome. And you guys train Monday to Saturday every single day for how many hours?

[Lolo Harris]

Oh, man. Total?

[Interviewer]

Total, yes.

[Lolo Harris]

Probably like seven, eight total.

[Interviewer]

A day?

[Lolo Harris]

A day.

[Interviewer 2]

Okay.

[Interviewer]

And is it in California sessions?

[Interviewer 2]

Okay.

[Interviewer]

What are the. What do you guys focus on in the trainings? I mean, you can. I know you can review only so much, but, like.

[Lolo Harris]

Well, and what in boxing? Yeah, and we focus on every little thing. You know, we focus on, you know, the highs and the lows, the weaknesses, everything. We focus on on all of that because at the end of the day, we're getting better. You know, we're trying to get better in this. In this boxing, so.

[Interviewer]

Okay, and then right now, when's your next fight?

[Lolo Harris]

I don't got an official date yet, but. But it's looking like maybe. Maybe in mid August.

[Interviewer]

Mid August, right before the. You potentially know. You mean you're smiling right now. Do you potentially know who your next fighters might be?

[Lolo Harris]

No, I don't Know yet? I don't know yet.

[Interviewer]

And how does that work though? Who gets the fights? Is it like a manager? Is it your trainer? How does it work behind the scenes? Like when cards are created? I've always been curious about that.

[Lolo Harris]

The manager of who I'm fighting for. Send. Send opponents.

[Interviewer 2]

Okay.

[Lolo Harris]

Send different, different opponents, you know, and then we choose, we choose out of those opponents who, who we fight.

[Interviewer 2]

Okay.

[Lolo Harris]

You know, so.

[Interviewer]

Was it both sets? You guys meet? Both managers meet for 2o camps. So how does that work? Because I know it's different to what YouTube boxing is, where people call each other out on Twitter. There's like a main event. You, KSI, Logan, Paul.

[Lolo Harris]

Yeah, it's.

[Interviewer]

It's different from that trash talk the entire time. So I was like, I've always just trying to figure it out, like how does it work behind the scenes?

[Lolo Harris]

Cuz. Well, I don't know from the other part, but I know from my part we'd be, we're sent different opponents and if we choose that one, you know, then they go back, Manager goes back and tells that person, you know, you guys want to fight Charles Harris, you know, you guys want to fight him. And then it comes in agreement and, you know, the rest is history, signing the papers and all of that. So.

[Interviewer 2]

Okay, okay.

[Interviewer]

That kind of takes two to tango. All right, but then how does it work when you become like a contender, when you want to challenge for a title? Like do you have to have a certain amount of record? How does that work? What division are you currently in right now?

[Lolo Harris]

Actually, I fight in 140.

[Interviewer 2]

Okay.

[Lolo Harris]

Junior welterweight.

[Interviewer 2]

Okay.

[Interviewer]

And if you want to challenge for the championship, like what do you have to do for that?

[Lolo Harris]

I just gotta keep winning.

[Interviewer 2]

Okay.

[Lolo Harris]

Keep winning and building up, going up in ranks first. Before that, before the contender thing and the champion and all that, I gotta just right now my focus on is one fight at a time and just to keep winning.

[Interviewer]

Okay, so you're 21 right now. In about five years time, you're gonna be 26. Code to winning is going to be one of the biggest podcasts at that one time. Right. So we're doing another interview by then. What or where do you think you're going to be in the next five years?

[Lolo Harris]

When I interview you next five years.

[Interviewer]

You'Re going to manifest this to the universe. So you be careful what you say right now.

[Lolo Harris]

Successful. Successful. I would say successful in the next five, five years.

[Interviewer]

That's powerful.

[Lolo Harris]

Successful. That's the key word.

[Interviewer]

I like that, man. I like that a lot Second last question before we conclude. I always. I mean, if we're going to be talking about boxing, I need to know all time. Give me your four Mount Rashmore greatest boxers of all time. Of all time. I'm talking, like, even freaking 1945, straight after the World War II brother.

[Lolo Harris]

Of all time. You know what's crazy? I never really watched old school boxing.

[Interviewer]

Like, so you didn't watch, like, Ali?

[Lolo Harris]

Not like, I never really got in. Got into old school boxing like that.

[Interviewer 2]

Okay.

[Lolo Harris]

Maybe get into maybe like old Florida or stuff like that, or Marvin Hagler, but I never really watched a lot of old school.

[Interviewer 2]

Okay.

[Lolo Harris]

Yeah. So.

[Interviewer]

All right, let me just give you mine then, you know, what's yours? Ali?

[Lolo Harris]

Okay.

[Interviewer]

Tyson. Floyd has to be there.

[Lolo Harris]

Okay.

[Interviewer]

Floyd has to be there. And it's so hard to put the fourth one because it's like Sugar Ray Lennon. There's like, I'm not. I wouldn't even say Lennox Lewis. There's a few other people. Like, Floyd has to be there. I think the fourth spot could potentially be a Lolo Harris one day. So that's why I'm leaving that.

[Lolo Harris]

I appreciate that.

[Interviewer]

So, as we conclude right now, I ask each guest this towards the end because the podcast is called the Code to Winning Insights. You need today to seize the world tomorrow. In your definition, like Blolo Harris today, what is your definition of winning?

[Lolo Harris]

My definition of winning, I would say my definition of winning is the same as what I just said before. Being successful, I would say. I mean, there's no other way to put it. Just being successful.

[Interviewer]

Awesome stuff, brother. If you could let our viewers know, if I don't know if they want to get a hold of you for promotional purposes or anything, like an email address or like IG and so forth as well, just let us know by looking at the camera.

[Lolo Harris]

You guys can follow me on instagram @lolo decodis underscore 1. I don't really be on any other social medias, like, no Twitter. No, none of that. So you guys could follow me on Instagram.

[Interviewer]

Awesome. The code to Winning Insights, you need today to seize the world tomorrow. Borrow Lolo Harris. Thank you very much, brother.

[Lolo Harris]

Appreciate you, man. Thank you.