Is The YouTube Gun Community Becoming Toxic?

Summary

Podcast Title: The Colion Noir Podcast
Host: Colion Noir
Episode: Is The YouTube Gun Community Becoming Toxic?
Release Date: July 16, 2025

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Introduction

In this candid episode of The Colion Noir Podcast, host Colion Noir delves deep into the evolving landscape of the YouTube gun community. Joined by David, known as the Humble Marksman, the discussion unpacks whether the community is spiraling into toxicity. Through personal anecdotes, industry insights, and honest reflections, Colion and David explore the challenges and transformations facing gun-related content creators on YouTube.

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Background of the Humble Marksman

David's Journey into Content Creation

David provides a comprehensive background on how his YouTube channels, Humble Marksman and Arrogant Marksman, came to be. Initially focused on storing and analyzing match footage from competitive shooting events like IDPA, David transitioned into content creation to share his expertise and experiences.

[01:19] David: "So back in the day when file storage you had to pay for on the Internet, so all the competitive shooters would use YouTube as a place to just like study their match footage."

He explains the origin of his channel names, highlighting the contrast between humility in his reviews and arrogance in his competition showcases.

[03:09] David: "But I mean, I do use the match footage, like, because I do mostly product review stuff. And I mean, there's not a better way to really learn the capability of something than try and run it hard in a match or training class or something like that."

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The Reality of Content Creation

Balancing Passion and Practicality

Colion and David discuss the nitty-gritty of producing gun-related content, emphasizing the dedication required to maintain quality amidst growing competition. They touch upon the financial and logistical challenges, such as equipment costs, ammunition expenses, and the necessity of continuous learning and adaptation.

[21:47] Colion Noir: "What it is, it's a job. I don't care what anyone says. It may be a dream job for a lot of people, but it is a job and it, and you have to work your ass off."

David echoes this sentiment, highlighting the relentless nature of YouTube as a platform where consistency and volume often overshadow quality.

[22:01] David: "It definitely rewards like volume more than it like the quality versus quantity. Quantity wins by a lot right now because I mean you're dominating people's subscription feeds and every single time one of those videos gets out there, you know, it's another chance to find new eyeballs and bring a bigger audience in and as like it's like a snowball rolling down a hill basically."

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Insights into Competitive Shooting

Beyond the Basics

The conversation shifts to the complexities of competitive shooting, shedding light on skills that go unnoticed by the casual observer. Topics like footwork, emotional control, and the physical demands of participating in matches are explored in depth.

[07:49] Colion Noir: "And I think people expect you to say this gun is good, this gun is bad. I think that's disingenuous and dishonest as shit because it's so subjective."

David adds that competitive shooting requires a multifaceted approach, where technical skills intertwine with strategic planning and mental resilience.

[08:36] David: "Footwork's massively important. Like hugely important. Like because you can only score so many points on a course and then it turns into a foot race after that."

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Community Toxicity and Drama

The Rise of Negative Content

A significant portion of the episode addresses the growing trend of negative and drama-driven content within the YouTube gun community. David observes that videos focusing on critiquing or "carking on" others are garnering substantial views, raising concerns about the long-term health of the community.

[47:30] David: "Let me ask a question because I've started to see this at the YouTube spaces where I to was going. Going initially with the line of questions is it feels like there's like a rise in just like the overly negative, just like crapping on a thing type videos."

Colion and David debate whether this shift towards negativity is a sustainable trend or a fleeting phase, noting that channels indulging in drama often fade away after a short period.

[47:43] Colion Noir: "And I think largely because we've been in. Prior to where we are now. We politically, we've been in such a con, like a very contested state."

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Managing Personal Passion and Monetization

Navigating Sponsorships and Audience Expectations

The hosts discuss the delicate balance between maintaining authenticity and monetizing their passion through sponsorships. They highlight the challenges of endorsing products and services that may not directly align with their core content or audience interests.

[51:12] David: "I know the video you're talking about now."

[51:24] Humble Marksman: "Like, all the sponsors he has, like, he genuinely uses them. He likes them."

They emphasize the importance of staying true to their values and selectively partnering with brands that resonate with their mission.

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Emotional Connection with Shooting

Shooting as Therapy and Escape

Colion shares a deeply personal perspective on how shooting serves as a therapeutic escape, helping him navigate through challenging periods in his life. This emotional connection fuels his passion and dedication to creating content that is both honest and informative.

[65:56] Colion Noir: "But the process is fun. You know, I went through a process one time, my friend was like, at the beginning of my firearm journey, he was like, dude, all you do is buy and trade guns."

David echoes the sentiment, discussing how the focus and discipline required in shooting can provide a reprieve from everyday stresses.

[67:42] David: "You have to, gotta be safe with them. But then to do the things you're trying to do with them, like, it's not easy."

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Conclusion

Fostering a Supportive Community

As the episode wraps up, Colion and David reflect on the future of the YouTube gun community. They advocate for a more supportive and authentic environment, where content creators can thrive without resorting to negativity or drama. Emphasizing the importance of passion and genuine engagement, they encourage fellow creators to stay true to their vision and contribute positively to the community.

[61:17] Colion Noir: "But I think people miss. Don't really understand that. Like, and it's like, no, I. I fully expect somebody to watch my video. And like, okay, let me go see what the humble market has to say."

[63:25] David: "It's like, really think about what you want from the thing, whatever it is you want."

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Notable Quotes

• David: "If you ignore the comments and keep focusing on what you love, that's how you stay authentic."
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• Colion Noir: "I am a diehard. I am an affirmative capitalist. I found a passion and then down the road, I was able to monetize that passion."
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• Humble Marksman: "Understand that the comment section is just the minority and doesn't represent all your followers."
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Key Takeaways

• Authenticity Matters: Maintaining genuine passion and honesty is crucial in building a lasting and supportive audience.
• Challenges of Monetization: Balancing sponsorships with authentic content creation is a persistent challenge for gun-related YouTubers.
• Community Dynamics: The rise of negative and drama-centric content poses a threat to the overall health and unity of the YouTube gun community.
• Emotional Resilience: Content creators often use their platforms as outlets for personal growth and emotional therapy, highlighting the deeper connections beyond mere content sharing.

For those navigating the YouTube gun community or considering entering it, this episode offers valuable insights into the importance of authenticity, the challenges of content creation, and the need to foster a positive and supportive environment.

Transcript

[Coleon Noir]

Would almost force my hands to learn how to palm the ball. And so I've become accustomed to God. I don't want to say this, and I know Peter's waiting. He's waiting for me to say this.

[David]

Would you say that you palm a lot of balls as a youth.

[Peter]

Clipping?

[Coleon Noir]

Oh, it's going to get worse, what I'm about to say, but I'm going to say it for the sake of tactically from tactical science. I'm just going to say it. I tend to. Like I said, can you leave? This episode of the Cole on Noir podcast is brought to you by Vetter Holsters. Welcome to another episode of the Calling on the War podcast. And joining me today is David or the humble marksman. There you go.

[Humble Marksman]

There we go.

[Coleon Noir]

All right, let's jump right into it. So what we're. Give me the background behind the name. So because you're not humble at all, you're just talking off camera a minute ago.

[David]

That's true. That's pretty much how I roll. But so back in the day when file storage you had to pay for on the Internet, so all the competitive shooters would use YouTube as a place to just like study their match footage. So back in the day I was shooting IDPA and marksman was at the time the lowest rank. And I was not a marksman. I was a high expert at the time, using their little language.

[Coleon Noir]

So that's above marksman.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[David]

So the IDPA ranking system used to start at marksman. Now there's novice below that. But it used to go marksman, sharpshooter, expert, master in the than if you were performed very well at a national championship, distinguish master. But you have to earn that. But I was at the time real close to getting a master certification or classification.

[Coleon Noir]

Yellow belt, more like a brown, I.

[David]

Guess you would say. Yeah, I don't know the belts either. So there was that. And I mean I am, you know, very aware of where I fall in place and kind of lean into it. So it just, you know, I'm not a marksman and humble was right, but it kind of, if you put them together was funny. So it just started as that and really it was just putting match video on the Internet. It was really all it started with. And back in the day, I mean you remember this time because you got started back then there were only like five or six gun tubers at the time. And that was around the time the like Canik SFX was first hitting it. This just scene and it wasn't legal for any of the competition stuff. So I was just like, all the. The gun tubers are like, yeah, this is the best competition gun at the time. Yeah, it's like, if you want to shoot an open, then yes, you use the slide racker on it and you're gonna get annihilated by full pop race guns. And so I just started recording crappy, terrible, don't watch them old videos on, like, you know, early iPhones. Terrible audio, no editing. And it just kind of progressed from there kind of incrementally to where, you know, the whole goal was originally to, you know, have a place to store my competition stuff. And then it kind of morphed into content and I started getting a bunch of negative comments, like, because I post match video and like, you're just showing off and all this kind of stuff. So I started another channel that has my competition stuff is the Arrogant Marksman.

[Coleon Noir]

Now.

[David]

That'S where I post that stuff. But I mean, I do use the match footage, like, because I do mostly product review stuff. And I mean, there's not a better way to really learn the capability of something than try and run it hard in a match or training class or something like that. So I do capture a lot of footage in matches still. And it's still a primary thing, but I mean, I enjoy the competition aspect. Like, it's. Yeah, it's good camaraderie. It's a great way to meet people you never meet in your regular life. And, you know, it's a good time. It's cheaper than golf and racing cars.

[Peter]

You weren't lying. Like, you literally have the arrogant.

[Coleon Noir]

I thought you were joking.

[Peter]

I looked it up. I'm like, oh, no, that's literally you.

[David]

And then it's the same. It's the same except for it says B guns at the bottom when you look at it.

[Peter]

That's hilarious.

[Coleon Noir]

I love that. Yeah, Absolutely love that.

[Humble Marksman]

So, yeah.

[David]

And so just silly stuff like, he's looking at the screen. There's a picture of me wearing a mullet wig. I shot a match last.

[Coleon Noir]

He'll put it right here.

[David]

Scroll down. It's a double strap, double tap championship 2024.

[Coleon Noir]

Peter doesn't know how to work in computer anymore, apparently.

[Peter]

We just build them. We don't work.

[Coleon Noir]

Yeah.

[David]

So I shot an entire match wearing that terrible mullet in a Dolly Parton T shirt just because it would seem like something funny to do. And you don't have premium. Come on, bro, you're mystery.

[Coleon Noir]

No, that. No, that's him.

[David]

So a buc EE's hat and yeah, the Dolly Parton so did that. And you know, just silly stuff like that. It's just, it's low effort stuff because that's where I do a lot of my actual like match videos and things like that.

[Coleon Noir]

So, you know, I don't like matches.

[David]

Why is that?

[Coleon Noir]

Waiting.

[David]

Waiting does.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[Coleon Noir]

You.

[David]

So for those of you who've never shot a match, I'm just gonna describe it to you. You stand around for about six hours to shoot for about two and a half minutes. Maybe that's what shooting a match is like.

[Coleon Noir]

The two minutes are exhilarating as hell.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah. Right.

[Coleon Noir]

But it's, it's like I, I'm a, I'm a very repetitious kind of learner. So I'm like, I want to do it. I need to do it over and over and over and over and over and over again. So if I'm practicing that way and then I get to a match and I'm, I'm a slow starter at things, so initially I kind of out the gate. I'm not that great. And then once I kind of get in a groove, then it's like boom, boom, boom, boom. So the start, stop aspect for me is what's hard.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[Coleon Noir]

Because I can't get into a rhythm. And so shoot. And then you, you're waiting, you're waiting, you're waiting, waiting. And then like, and then you gotta start. So. Which is a skill set in and of itself, right?

[David]

Oh yeah, absolutely.

[Coleon Noir]

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[David]

And that's, I mean the, there's the actual like hard skills of doing the shooting and Then there's like the how to compete piece. So what you're talking to is that the how to compete and like the process of getting ready to shoot because I mean, when you're trying to go fast, you're trying to ride that line of kind of control and dropping points and it's very difficult to find the line. So like a lot of ways people think about competitive shooting or whatever they think, like when you're doing the repetitious type training is you get that one high score. Like, my time was this, I can do this every time, but that's not the right way to really think about it. Like, okay, if you try 10 times, what was your lowest score? Because like your lowest score is probably closer to your on demand performance than your highest score.

[Coleon Noir]

Very good point.

[David]

And so you have to pay attention to the minimum, not the maximum. And it's, it's very humble. And I mean, realistically, like a lot, it's starting to change. But a lot of policemen wouldn't come out and shoot the matches because, you know, they've got this kind of, you know, commando Persona in their head. And they would just get humbled by fat accountants who do it every weekend and I mean, or 13 or 14 year old girls whose parents are just throwing money at them to do it. And it happens. And it's, I mean, it's a big blow to your ego, but I mean, if you stick with it, you kind of learn all that and get past it. Like you can level up real fast without, you know, getting a lot better. Just figuring out the how to compete part.

[Coleon Noir]

That. And the funny thing, one thing I realized is so much of what you don't really know, like, you don't see it. Yeah, like the technique and the skill involved, like, yeah, there's a shooting aspect of it. You see all that. But like the movement patterns, you know, there's so many small finite things that go into helping you increase your score, increase your speed that you can't really readily see.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah, right.

[Coleon Noir]

And that's when that hit me, I was like, okay, I'm understanding it now. It's not just shooting because people think it's just, you go out there, pick up a gun, learn, shoot, boom. And good. And there's, there's a lot. Especially footwork.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[David]

Oh yeah. Footwork's massively important. Like hugely important. Like because you can only score so many points on a course and then it turns into a foot race after that. Once, like you have all the hard skill to kind of get there.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[David]

The Stuff that stratifies everybody on performance ends up being the small details and how you move around and stuff like that. And it's the, there's a big disconnect with like how people think about like I'm going to go to the range and practice. For a lot of people that's just going to an indoor range, getting one stall and one target and you know, moving the target around in and out and it's static, it's totally on you. You don't use shot timers or anything like that. And like that is just one facet of everything it takes to do it. And it's, it's important, but it's not that important in the scheme of things. And there's so many other skills. Like we sit here and list them, but it take a minute and you're viewers who get bored. No, there's a lot.

[Coleon Noir]

I mean one of the things that. Because you know, you do reviews as well. Right, right. And now, you know, one of the things that I would get a lot before initially was like, why do you run like that? And I'm like, I can tell you've never run with a gun in your hand.

[Humble Marksman]

Oh yeah.

[Coleon Noir]

And tried to main safe, then try to maintain safety while doing it. It's gonna look a little awkward. Yeah, it's, it's not. I think people are so used to seeing people run with guns in movies and. But in reality running with the gun is actually kind of a skill set in and of itself.

[Humble Marksman]

Oh yeah.

[David]

And trying to like, I mean if you think about like the biomechanics and how you swing your arms and stuff like that, like there is the 180 rule. You're probably familiar with it. But I mean for those not familiar, if you're parallel to the, or if you're facing the back berm, there is a line that extends out, you know, in each direction parallel with you to the back berm. And if the muzzle crosses that, your match is over. So you can't turn around up range. So you have to learn how to float the gun around and keep it glued in a safe direction to where you know the back berm is. So it does create some weird looking running. And at the same time, you know, you have to pump your arms if you want to run fast. So you kind of have to figure that out. And that takes on sometimes some weird looking stuff. But I mean it's again, it's another like piece of what goes into getting out there and running the guns, man.

[Coleon Noir]

So I have to ask. So And I. Not very rarely, I get to talk with somebody who actually reviews guns to the same degree that I do. What. What is one of the things you do not like about reviewing a firearm? Like, when you're out there and you're reviewing a gun, what's one thing that you just. You can't stand?

[Humble Marksman]

I'll give you two.

[David]

The first is that, I mean, you know how this is. You get a gun and you're reviewing one gun, that one gun, and you can only talk about the stuff I.

[Coleon Noir]

Already know the he has to hear. Go ahead. I'm sorry.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[Coleon Noir]

I already know where you're going with this.

[David]

So if, you know, let's say, popular example here, the P320, they're going off or whatever, I've got a bunch of P320s that I've looked at. None of them have gone off. I know it's documented, but, like, that one didn't.

[Coleon Noir]

Yeah.

[David]

So it. But it's not that. It's. It's all different things.

[Coleon Noir]

Like.

[David]

Well, they don't feed or whatever. It's like, without and fed. So I don't know what you want me to do.

[Coleon Noir]

I don't know what you want me to do.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah. Like.

[Coleon Noir]

Which is why I never talk about reliability when it comes to. To a gun. Because for me, I'm like, I can tell you the gun I have is reliable.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[Coleon Noir]

But once you start doing stuff at scale, that's when you really start seeing the problems.

[Humble Marksman]

That.

[Coleon Noir]

That, that company probably went out of their way, like, did everything they possibly could think of to make sure the thing works. But then when you start doing. When you scale it and start sending it out to people and people using it differently, ammo, things like that. Who knows? And then people like, well, you said this gun was good, but mine didn't work. Well, it was good. Mine worked.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[Coleon Noir]

But I can only talk about the one gun I have.

[David]

Exactly.

[Coleon Noir]

And I can't account for the thousands and thousands of guns out there that go out. I can't.

[David]

And a lot of these guys aren't making, like, every single part in the gun. Like, they're farming out some of the parts.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[David]

You know, if the initial they, you know, the initial run, they get all the parts, and all the parts are good, and then all the rest of them come in and they're not. Yeah, but it's the other thing that's really interesting about that is that it seems like people's expectation or tolerance of a gun not working is inversely related to how many Models of that gun are. So if there's a million, let's say we'll just keep picking on the P320. Let's say there's, I think there's like 4 or 5 million of them and there's, you know, a hundred incidents. Now granted the incidents that are being reported are catastrophically bad.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[David]

So let's say it's something else. Let's say it was just, you know, slide stops breaking or something like that. If only 100 slide stops broke on 4 million guns. But because of the Internet, everybody knows about it. It's just like these are trash and they don't work. Well, never mind all the other ones that do work.

[Coleon Noir]

Yeah, exactly.

[David]

So that's one aspect. And the other thing I don't like about the firearm review space is like everybody thinks that like the piece of content is specifically for what they, they want and their needs are. So I get comments on stuff like, why are you reviewing a gun I can't afford? I feel like you felt without the.

[Coleon Noir]

In that.

[David]

It'S like I make content on inexpensive guns. I make content on expensive guns.

[Coleon Noir]

You know, what really grinds my gears, so to speak.

[David]

I would love to hear it.

[Coleon Noir]

I'll get that a lot. I get that a lot. And I will be the first to admit I do like fancy. I'll be the first to make that. But then I'll do a more budget friendly gun. And the first comment I see, why are you reviewing that piece of I can't win.

[Humble Marksman]

So.

[Coleon Noir]

So at this point, honestly, I just don't try. Yeah, I only talk about guns I care about and I like them. If I like the gun, you hear about it. If I don't like the gun, I'll tell you aspects of the gun I don't like and aspects of gun I do like. If the gun is just unsafe, then I'll point it out. I've never just had a gun that's completely, wholly unsafe. I don't even think I've done a video on it. 320. So I can't even speak on that. But by and large I, I don't even try at this point because I once I saw that, I was like, I can't win. There's no way around it.

[David]

It's. That's challenging. And the other side is like, we all come in all shapes and sizes. And so like I've got XL sized hands and I have hobbit hands.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[David]

And so you know, your experience on a gun is going to be completely different from Mine. It's like, how come you didn't mention the thing? Pinching is like.

[Coleon Noir]

Well, it doesn't pitch my hand.

[David]

And that's why I didn't mention it.

[Coleon Noir]

Yeah.

[David]

So it's just, it's, it's amazing. And then like, all the, all the content is free on YouTube. You just. Maybe you get served and that. Maybe you don't.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[David]

And it's just like, well, you know, here's 17 things about why you're terrible.

[Coleon Noir]

It's just like, dude, it's, it's, it's, it's. It's rough. Now, granted, look, I prefaced it, I preface this, but with this, I get it, right? We have dream jobs, essentially, compared to a lot of people, especially people who are in the firearms.

[David]

Right? Yeah.

[Coleon Noir]

So we get access to guns. We get to go out and shoot more readily than most people get to shoot. But that doesn't mean everything is all, like, fairies and rainbows. Like, we'll go out. I mean, I'll go out there and we'll flirt with heat stroke. I mean, you know this, right? Like, that's why, like, during the summer times, my actual gun reviews slow down.

[David]

Oh, of course.

[Coleon Noir]

Like, it's just. I've tried. I've almost killed Peter. I've almost killed myself.

[David]

With a gun. Or the heat.

[Coleon Noir]

With the heat.

[Humble Marksman]

Okay.

[David]

At least he's got to do it with the gun.

[Coleon Noir]

But, like, I mean, I went out the other day and I. I purposely went out by myself just to test outside freaking. I thought to put this on. On silent. You know, it's my barber. I purposely went out there to test certain guns that I'm going to be doing videos on. And I kind. I like to go out to spend time with them, get killed for them and stuff like that. It's like 90 degrees. And so I look up, I'm out there. I've been out there for four hours straight, and I come back home, go to sleep. The next day, I can't do anything. It's like I got sun poisoning or something. And, like, I'm done. And so it's like now, during that time when I'm doing that, I enjoyed it, but now it's throwing me off my rocket because now I gotta. I still gotta do other videos, but I can't because I'm completely wasted.

[Humble Marksman]

Right.

[Coleon Noir]

And so it's. I love what I do. It's fun and it's a dream position to be in, but it's not. It's not all good.

[David]

Well, shot show is a great example of that.

[Humble Marksman]

Oh, God, don't get me started.

[David]

I mean, you're probably not doing show coverage anymore. I'll still go and do show coverage, but I can't.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah, yeah.

[Coleon Noir]

It gets.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[David]

To give you an idea, we were traveling together at one point last year, and he got recognized and talked to all the time, and I just waved and kept walking. So he can't do show coverage anymore.

[Coleon Noir]

Because everyone thought it's hard, man. And the thing is, I want. Like, it's not show the one. The frustrating thing about it is because I want to walk the floor and look at. Yeah, I do, but I can't, because if I do, one person will stop and talk to me. And I'm not complaining. I'm just saying, why can't one person will stop and talk to me? And then from there I'm like, I'm gonna give you. If you come and talk to me, I'm gonna give you all my attention. But the problem is somebody else will realize it's me. Then they'll come. They don't come. They'll come. They'll come. And then we can't go anywhere, and I can't. So I'm stuck at a booth because I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna weigh people off. And so basically I. Now I just have to go from A to B, A to B, A to B, A to B, and then call it quits. But I really would love to walk the floor. Sometimes I try to do it on the last day, like towards the end. But even dance, it's still kind of tough.

[David]

But Shot show, you know, a lot of people, the industry guys who are actually, like. Who have the booth, they go out and party and they show up hungover and all this kind of stuff. But if you're. If you're media at Shot show, you get there, when the door is open, you go and you take all your footage, look at everything you can. Then you go back to the hotel room and you sit there and edit as much as you can until you fall asleep and do it all again the next day. And it's just. It's relentless. So it's not nearly as glamorous.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[David]

And I mean, it's. It's awesome. It's fun. It's. It's really cool. But I mean, it's a grind.

[Coleon Noir]

It has its downsides.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[Coleon Noir]

Yeah. Because even me, like, even though. Even with editing, having Peter here to help me edit, I, like, people always ask me, like, why don't I go to events at Shot show and I'm like. Because I'm like, I'm exhausted. Like, if I do, if I do a booth appearance right, I don't lead to the lines done. I don't care if it's, if I'm only there for an hour or 30 minutes, I just go until the line is done. And then by that point I'm so exhausted I don't want to do anything. I just want to go to my room and just collapse and. But like you pointed out, everybody's, oh, we're at Circle Bar. We, everybody's getting drunk, having a good time, going to parties and stuff. And I'm like, yeah, yeah, I wish.

[David]

Yeah, it's not, it's not a huge party. It's fun. I mean, I don't want to sound like I'm not complaining about it. It's a lot of fun. It's a really cool thing to do, be doing. But it's, there's a lot more to it that you don't see that is not glamorous.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[David]

I mean, we're sitting in a room with a bunch of cameras and computer equipment that you can't see. So like, you know, for all the gun stuff, there's all the AV stuff, you have to become a nerd basically and get all, I mean the carbon fiber tripods and all this stuff. So it's.

[Coleon Noir]

So were you self taught in terms of.

[David]

Oh yeah, and I'm still garbage, but you know, I have aspirations.

[Coleon Noir]

Yeah, no, I was maxing him. Planning on doing a solo podcast where I talk about how I got in, how I started doing like gun videos. But yeah, like you. The University of YouTube has been so beneficial in a lot of ways.

[David]

It's, it's awesome.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[David]

Because I mean, you're forced to do the same thing over and over again to your repetition standpoint and you're getting immediate feedback. It's like, okay, well that didn't go well. Let's figure out why that didn't go well. And then, you know, you get another chance when you make another upload and you can try again and, or you put way too much effort into it and then nobody even notices. And it's just, well, I'm not going.

[Humble Marksman]

To do that again.

[Coleon Noir]

And then you, or you do that one video that's just, you're like, I'm just going to throw this up.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[David]

And it blows up.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[Coleon Noir]

I don't understand. There is no rhyme or reason to what goes viral. What does? Well, and what doesn't. I've realized you you can't figure it out, at least in a gun space. Maybe you can in other spaces, but I don't think you can in a gun space.

[David]

Yeah, I mean I can remember it must have been 2014, 2015 when you had just kind of gotten started and you were in Houston shooting IDPA with like a SpO1 or something like that.

[Coleon Noir]

And that was myself.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[David]

Well, you got to start somewhere.

[Peter]

Still continuing.

[David]

But yeah, in different ways though.

[Coleon Noir]

This is true. This is very true.

[David]

But it's, it's amazing to just watch people. But I mean the kids who are coming up now, like the bar is so high to is just what the production has to look like. Because if you think about it, when you got your start in it like YouTube supplemented TV and now YouTube is TV and like you got the Mr. Beasts of the world who are just, you know, blowing it out with multi million dollars per video and you've just got a camera and a tripod and just trying to do something. And it's an incredibly competitive space.

[Coleon Noir]

It really is, man. And like, and you have to stay on top of it. It's like you have to, have to keep, you have to one, you have to keep growing, you have to keep staying consistent. But then you got to be even more consistent. You got to put out more content because there's more people putting stuff out there. So it's like it's, it's a constant grind.

[Humble Marksman]

Oh yeah.

[Coleon Noir]

What it is, it's a job. I don't care what anyone says. It may be a dream job for a lot of people, but it is a job and it, and you have to work your ass off.

[Humble Marksman]

Oh yeah.

[Coleon Noir]

Like, it's, it's just, it's, there's not leisure, there's nothing leisurely about any of this.

[David]

It definitely rewards like volume more than it like the quality versus quantity. Quantity wins by a lot right now because I mean you're dominating people's subscription feeds and every single time one of those videos gets out there, you know, it's another chance to find new eyeballs and bring a bigger audience in and as like it's like a snowball rolling down a hill basically.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[David]

So I mean, if I were to do it all over again and if I wanted to, you know, actually be like full time professional youtuber, I would not pick the firearms.

[Coleon Noir]

That's a lot. That's what a lot of people don't realize. Like, like we are like a micro ant.

[Humble Marksman]

Oh yeah.

[Coleon Noir]

In the sphere of YouTube. Like, and people, like, people do not understand and Even from a monetary standpoint, the amount of money people make with even people who have audiences your size and my size, it quadruples. Oh yeah, quadruples what we make. Largely because people don't, or like advertisers are hesitant to touch firearms.

[Humble Marksman]

Oh yeah.

[Coleon Noir]

And you know, you go out there and make a toy video, you and you make 100 grand on one video in three days.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[Coleon Noir]

And then we put out a video, maybe make five grand after six months of the video being right. Like it's, it's nuts. But I mean we, we made our bed.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[David]

No, I mean you got to be in it for the love of the game. I mean, if you're wanting to be a content creator, if you don't have love of the game, then it's not gonna.

[Coleon Noir]

And that's another thing that people don't realize too. It's like, you know, you definitely have like, initially for me it was all, it was all passion and it still is, but like that's what kept, kept you going. Because initially you start off, you go, okay, oh, this would be cool. I'm gonna do a gun video. The first one is awesome. You got all the energy in the world. Second one is pretty good. And then you realize, oh, I have to keep doing this. And you either naturally still want to keep doing it or eventually you're going to hit a roadblock. Because it's like at a certain point you got to get, like you said, you got self teach. You gotta learn how to what, what equipment to buy the cameras to buy, how to edit because you're not making enough money to hire someone at that point. Then you have to spend, then you, then you also have to spend time with the gun to get to understand, learn the gun. Then you got to work on your delivery. When you're on camera. You got to get over the nervousness about being in front of cameras and you gotta learn how to edit. Then you gotta figure out a way to pay for your ammo. You gotta figure way to get your hands on the guns in the first place.

[David]

Access to a place where you can shoot them and do cool stuff.

[Coleon Noir]

Exactly, exactly. Like it's, it's, it's a lot, a lot that goes into it. So anytime I see someone being able to do it consistently, I know, I look and I, I know the work put into doing that. Like, yeah, there's just no question about it. Like that's a person who really truly loves this because they wouldn't be doing it.

[David]

I mean, especially when you're getting Started and you're having to buy absolutely everything, like all the ammo and all the guns and stuff like that. If you consider what your outlay is to make one video potentially. I mean you're spending thousands of dollars into the economics you just pointed to to maybe break even.

[Coleon Noir]

Yeah, yeah, it's nuts.

[David]

It's, it's really tough to get started in the space. And I mean it's fun, it's awesome. In the field of, you know, the gun industry is filled with great people, but at the same time, like it's, it's not the most lucrative media venture.

[Humble Marksman]

Not at all.

[Coleon Noir]

No. Don't get me wrong, you can do well.

[Humble Marksman]

Right?

[Coleon Noir]

But comparatively. But compared to what other people are doing in other non endemic spaces. Not even close.

[David]

If you were like consumer finance, you're like RPM would be like 8x what it probably is like. Yeah, it's, it's insane.

[Coleon Noir]

Yeah, it is. But we still love it, clearly. Oh yeah, we still do it.

[David]

I do want to just because like I read the comments. You maybe read the comments, but. So I've hung out with you when cameras aren't on and last summer we got to hang out with such and such. Like what you mentioned just a moment ago talking about the guns that you see on the screen. Like there's already a filter for a gun to even get on the screen because it has to kind of catch your attention for some reason. So it's just like all the reviews are positive. Yeah, well, there's a reason for that because like there has to be something intrinsically cool about the gun to get it to that point. But I mean, you and such, we were hanging out, like one of the things I learned about you guys is like the passion that we're talking about. Like that's real. That's not like who you see on the camera is who you see. Like it's not. No, these are terrible. I hate these.

[Coleon Noir]

No, no. And that's the thing. And I think honestly that's why I can keep doing it. Because if I'm just reviewing guns I don't like, yeah, I wouldn't be able to do it for very long. And for me shooting is like, shooting is a passion. I know it's a passion for you too and, and for me, more of a like that kind of leisurely. I call it Bo Jackson shooting because I just, I just like shooting all types of different styles, never perfecting one. And some of my happiest moments are when I'm out on a range just shooting. No, Peter, you know, I wouldn't want.

[David]

To hang out with Peter either.

[Peter]

Whatever.

[David]

Peter's lovely person for the audience at home.

[Coleon Noir]

But Peter has seen it. Like, he's seen it where I'm drained. I'm like, man, I don't want to be here. Right. I don't want to be at this range right now. I don't want to do any of this. He'll see me hop out of the truck. He'll be sitting there waiting for me because I'm usually late. And then he'll look at me. He could tell I'm like, I don't want to be here. That first shot goes like. So we'll start doing like filming, like the non shooting. We call it the non shooting shots. We'll get the non shooting stocks. And I'm kind of moseying through the, you know.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah. By we. I do. Yeah, whatever.

[Coleon Noir]

It's.

[David]

It's a team effort here.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[David]

Keep that in mind.

[Coleon Noir]

And then as soon as that first shot goes off, when we start doing the shooting shots, it's like something like a switch flips and it's just. And like my whole mood changes. And I love shooting. I just love it.

[Humble Marksman]

And.

[Coleon Noir]

I don't want to talk about guns I don't care about. I know it sounds selfish.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[Coleon Noir]

You know what I mean? Because a lot of people rely on us to talk about guns that they're interested in. And sometimes I do try to do that. But the funny thing is I feel like that's me being fake.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[Coleon Noir]

You know, like I will. People get on me about like high dollar guns and how my higher dollar guns and stuff. But the guns I have the most problems with are the budget, the budget level guns. And I think it's, it's not real of me because sometimes I will tone down guns I really, really, really like. And I won't be as adamant about how much I like them because I don't want people to think I'm just saying it because it's a high dollar gun.

[Peter]

But they're gonna say it anyways.

[Coleon Noir]

Exactly. So it's, it's a weird thing is it's like I'm actually being disingenuous about liking. About not liking a gun. Not so much saying I don't like it, but saying like I want to.

[David]

Talk it up more does not spark joy.

[Coleon Noir]

Right. So I kind of, I would like, I'll. I'll keep this baseline attitude about it. It's a nice gun. It's like when on the inside I'm like, fuck, I love this thing, right?

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[Coleon Noir]

And. Or if there's a budget gun, I have this, this weird kind of inner consternation where I'm like, there's aspects, again, I don't like. And I really don't like that aspect of the gun. But I know if I say it with the vigor in which I feel it. You get what I'm saying?

[David]

Yeah. Like people. Because then it's never watching your channel again. That's my favorite.

[Humble Marksman]

Exactly.

[Coleon Noir]

And then it's like, oh, you're just saying that because. Because you have money and you can get the high dollar stuff and you're just on people who can afford. Yeah, no, I'm just like there. I'll admit this one thing. And I won't say the company's name because I'm just not in business with destroying companies. But I remember I went and I did a. I did a first mag review. I was. It wasn't even planned. I did a first mag review. I was out to my doing couple A course and there was this company there who made an entry level gun. And I remember they were like, hey, you know, do you want to do a video on this gun? And I was like, yeah, sure. Like, you never have to coax me to shoot. You have bullets in a gun. I'm shooting. And so I don't think I was working with you at the time. And I remember the pre Peter era.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah, right.

[Coleon Noir]

So the guy who's filming for me, he's. We start filming, I'm doing it all. This is off the cuff. I'm shooting a gun and I'm like, holy, this gun. Like, the gun ran. The gun, you know, did what it did. I mean, it was. It was a very entry level gun. We're talking like 200, right? It was the worst shooting gun I've ever felt in my life. Like, I hated every second of me shooting the gun. I filmed the whole video and I. I said it without saying it to a degree where I didn't want to on the gun in front of the guy's face. But I also knew there are a lot of people who buy this gun and I didn't want to on it because I know a lot of people feel some type of way because it's an entry level gun. And I remember thinking to myself, like, I can't put this video out. It's. I can't, because if I put it out, that's gonna happen. Where people feel sometime, oh, yeah, but then nobody else is gonna buy this gun. And it wasn't that the gun didn't run. If the gun didn't run, it didn't work or safety issue. I just, I'll just set it and put it out. But it was just me. Me personally, I hated it. I hated the gun. And I've entry level guns before that I like. So it's not just the fact that it's a budget or entry level gun. It's just of the entry level guns. It sucked to me. Just the recoil was way too stout. It just ergonomics were off, at least for my hands. And so I was like, I'm. I'm not. I was like, I still have it. I'm like, I just, I'm not putting it out now. Whether or not that's the right thing to do or the wrong thing to do, I don't know.

[David]

But it seems like there's an emergent this. I've noticed this. And you can, if you do. Do you actually number one watch gun videos on YouTube anymore or do you use YouTube? Is this escape?

[Coleon Noir]

So, So I watched.

[Humble Marksman]

Okay.

[Coleon Noir]

Admittedly, right. I watch way more car content than I watch gun content.

[David]

Right. As he wears a Scuderia Ferrari.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah. So.

[Coleon Noir]

But I still do watch. I do do watch gun content if it's, if it's a gun I'm really like interested in and I could have the gun and already do a video on it.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[Coleon Noir]

But I just want to see what.

[David]

Other takes are exactly.

[Humble Marksman]

Right.

[Coleon Noir]

Because I still, I still have that inner kind of like YouTube gun guy, consumer in me. So I just was just sitting. Just kind of watch. Right. For fun. So to a degree, yes. But definitely way more car content than gun content because the car content is almost like the escape.

[David]

Now I. I F1 news and insider stuff is basically what I use YouTube for. But it's, it's interesting because like people's experiences with. Of the guns is like completely different, like from the audience's standpoint. And so as a competitive shooter, I've felt ridiculous triggers. Like, you know, as good as you can make a pistol trigger, like sub 1 pound poles. Yes, they do it. It's safe. They can do it.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[David]

So like my experience of experiencing a sub 1 pound, like 1 millimeter movement trigger, comparing it to like a budget gun which has, you know, the triggers aren't terrible generally across the board anymore. But like, if your entire experience with handguns is only with those kinds of triggers and you think they're good, but like you've never really dove in the deep end. Like how do you bracket something like that? So somebody can understand it.

[Coleon Noir]

And that's why I think people expect you to say this gun is good, this gun is bad. I think that's disingenuous and dishonest as shit because it's so subjective.

[Humble Marksman]

Right.

[Coleon Noir]

And then not only that, and we're way. Some of the consumers don't understand nuance.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[Coleon Noir]

Like I could rave about like I'll shoot a gun and I'm raving about it, right. I'm like, this gun shoots phenomenal. And then I'll point out one little thing about it. I don't really care too much for it. And I'll think I hate the gun. And I'm like, no, that's just an aspect of the gun. No gun's perfect. No, yeah, it's just this aspect, the gun, I just don't really care for that much.

[Humble Marksman]

Right.

[Coleon Noir]

Maybe the ergonomics is slightly off, but man, this thing shoots flat as. And something about that roller trigger just works with me. And I can shoot this gun fast.

[Humble Marksman]

Right.

[Coleon Noir]

And I say that in the video and I'm kind of confused sometimes. I'm like, I literally give you the context for what I'm talking about. Like. And I'm like, no, you're just full of. No, like for instance, the, the reflex, the FN reflex. I, I never realized that for me I really fast with a roll with a trigger that kind of has that rolling. Exactly.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[Coleon Noir]

I always felt like I would be faster with, you know, I typically, what my mind says I like is basically a nice take up short definable wall and a nice break.

[Humble Marksman]

Right.

[Coleon Noir]

And for me, accuracy, I realized, yeah, that's great. But if I'm talking, if I'm shredding, give me a roll through, give me a rolling trigger for me. Because that works. Whatever, whatever hell going on with my body mechanics in my brain, it tends to work for me. Now that's on those type of guns at the end of the day. And you can tell me if I'm wrong because you're the competition shooter here.

[David]

It's not stupid if it works. True.

[Coleon Noir]

But. And I'm funny, we had a conversation earlier about this and I said too, I was like, I think 2011s not notwithstanding race guns, 2011 style guns are cheat codes. I think they're cheat codes. I think you put a gun, I think if you put it, you can disagree with me. If you, if you.

[David]

That's my favorite platform.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[David]

I mean but preach.

[Coleon Noir]

Yeah, so. But you. I'm pretty sure you've seen them online too. The Comments where people are like, you know, oh, you don't need a 2011 to shoot well. It's like, we're not saying that.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[Coleon Noir]

Just saying it's easier to shoot better with this platform than it is like your typical standard striker fired. But I don't know if people really understand that.

[David]

It's. It's not going to make you a better shooter, but what it is going to do is mute the effect of a breakdown in your fundamentals. So if you jerk the trigger, because it's got a light trigger and the gun's pretty heavy, the amount of deflection at the muzzle is less than on a 21 ounce Glock. If you screw up a Glock trigger pull, you're going to know about it because you're going to be shooting left and low.

[Coleon Noir]

Yep.

[David]

So they do absorb a lot of shooter errors and make it easier to shoot well. But at the same time, a lot of people's hands don't work with that gun. Like, really surprised you. Like you describe your hands as hobbit hands. A lot of people with smaller hands have a hard time finding a home on the gun.

[Coleon Noir]

You know what I think it is? I think honestly it was my years of playing basketball, so kind of growing up. Shut up, Peter. So playing basketball like I grew up in Arab Iverson, right. So I, I mastered my crossover, but you kind of have to carry the ball a little bit to do it well. And so I would almost force my hands to learn how to palm the ball. And so I've become accustomed to. God, I don't want to say this. And I know Peter's waiting. He's waiting, waiting for me to say.

[David]

Would you say that you palm a lot of balls as a youth.

[Peter]

Clipping?

[Coleon Noir]

Oh, it's gonna get worse about what I'm about to say, but I'm gonna say it for the sake of tactically, from tactical science, I'm just gonna say it. I tend to like. I 10 can you leave now?

[Peter]

Just go ahead. I'm turning my headphones off.

[Coleon Noir]

I tend to like. I tend to like bigger grips. I like, I like. I like the group of gun to fill up my hand more so than be small and kind of dainty. And I think that's why the, the 2011 styles tend to work for me. And I tend to like more of a blocky feel in a way more so than overly ergonomic. Notwithstanding Walthers, I think Walter.

[David]

Walter does a great job.

[Coleon Noir]

Oh, my gosh.

[Humble Marksman]

They do a good job.

[Coleon Noir]

They do a very good job. Oh, It's, But I never, I never really heard that, that a lot of people's hands aren't really keen to the 20, the trigger.

[David]

I mean, number one, it's kind of like an AR because you can get parts for 2011s to make them work with your hands. I mean, they make shorter triggers, they make reduced size grips and stuff like what you're saying.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[David]

So I mean, realistically, when you buy a 2011, what you're buying is a slide, a barrel in the subframe and everything else. You can basically just set up how you like it. Now you're buying somebody's interpretation of what that spec set should look like out of the box and how much work you're willing to put into it or pay somebody to do for you or whatever you want to do. But I mean, a lot of people have a hard time being able to control the trigger. And I mean I've got, I've got guns that are 2011 where the trigger is too long and unless I really have my right hand planted on the gun correctly, like I push shots with it.

[Coleon Noir]

Gotcha.

[David]

So that's, I think, I think it's great platform. It's pretty simple to work on. Cost an arm and a leg. They cost way too much money. But being a connoisseur, I'll throw it out there because I've got a video coming up this weekend on it. But have you tried a Fowler Industries Vanta 9?

[Coleon Noir]

Yes, we did. Was what's his face? Calvin's.

[David]

Calvin, yeah.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[David]

Calvin put one in my hands and I immediately had a big hole in my bank account. Those guns are incredible. Incredible.

[Coleon Noir]

It's, it's, it's. I call it, I don't know if I said in the video, I call it like Cadillac style ergonomics.

[Humble Marksman]

Oh yeah.

[Coleon Noir]

And, and it really shot. Oh man. That gun felt amazing in hand.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[Coleon Noir]

But the weird thing about me too is I have two spectrums when it comes to 2011 style guns and ergonomic and ergonomics in general. I either want them very plush or like bleeding hand aggressive.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah. Right.

[Coleon Noir]

And so I, I, I, if I'm shooting, shooting, shooting, shooting, give me the most aggressive gun you can get. And I'm, that's what I'm gonna run with because my hands will start sweating and then.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[Coleon Noir]

Even though it feels great in my hand, but it just kind of starts slipping a little bit. So I like a very aggressive.

[David]

Have you messed with any grip enhancer when you're doing these four hour range sessions, Are you Talking about the, like dry hands or.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah, yeah.

[Coleon Noir]

I have some in my range bag, but I always forget to use it.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[Coleon Noir]

So it's like. And then also. I hate. This is going to sound so lame. It makes the gun look ugly.

[David]

It does make the gun. It absolutely does that. But that, that makes very mediocre grips, you know, work a lot better. I've got great grips on my guns, but at these competitions I'm using dry.

[Coleon Noir]

Hands, so that makes sense. Yeah, yeah. If I was doing actually shooting competitions, because my competitions are largely been kind of been like, you know, the IDPA stuff I did before and then I. I did a long range one not too long ago. Michelle's keep trying to get me to do some, some. Some pistol competitions.

[David]

I see you have a bull Spitfire. I can.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah, I know.

[David]

Yeah, I've got one as well.

[Humble Marksman]

We could.

[David]

I could give you a belt and we could go shoot some really loud ammo.

[Coleon Noir]

I will take you up on that once the weather gets cooler.

[Humble Marksman]

That's fair.

[Coleon Noir]

I will absolutely take you up on that.

[David]

We're just getting into the heart hot.

[Coleon Noir]

Parts of the bad man. It's so bad.

[David]

In two weeks we'll feel better and then it'll be like. And then it'll be 105 degrees and then it'll be.

[Coleon Noir]

Legitimately, we're just in the 90s and it's already bad.

[David]

Well, I mean, we're not accustomed to. It's all what you're used to. And we're not used to the hot yet. We'll get there, but in the meantime we'll complain about it.

[Coleon Noir]

Is there, Is there a particular. This might be a weird question, but is there a specific state that you love shooting in more than others? And I only say that because I've shot in a bunch of different states.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[Coleon Noir]

And I definitely have my favorite.

[David]

I would say any place that has a humidity less than about 60% is generally awesome. I mean, Colorado is pretty cool with the mountains and stuff that they've got. They've got low humidity. That's good. But I mean, this. I grew up in the Southeast and when you're. I mean, you spent time in Houston, so you know, like 95 and 100 humidity is.

[Coleon Noir]

It's 112.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[David]

It's an oven. It's just, just. It's miserable. And so any place with about lower than 60, I'm generally pretty happy. I don't really care what it looks like so much because it's all dirt berms pushed up anyway.

[Coleon Noir]

Yeah. You know What? That's one thing I will say, and I'm gonna say this knowing we're kind of limited in what we can do, but, man, gun Rangers are ugly. Oh, yeah, they're ugly, man. They're ugly. And when you go to a lot of them.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[Coleon Noir]

You start realizing like, yeah, gun ranges are pretty ugly.

[David]

What do you think about Con exes? We're gonna have a bunch of Conexes and Porta Johns, but maybe you can wash your hands. Probably you can't. You know, it's just the logistics of putting a big area like that in the middle of nowhere because it's all dirt pits, 45 minutes from the city, pretty much. Okay, now, I take it back, there is one place that was my absolute favorite place to shoot. It was the US Shooting Academy in Tulsa, Oklahoma.

[Coleon Noir]

Really?

[David]

Because it's 15 minutes from downtown. There's an airport if you want to fly in. You can get Airbnbs and they're cheap and they're really nice.

[Coleon Noir]

Okay.

[David]

There's great food. The range is pretty good. And they stopped hosting matches there, so. Okay, can't go there anymore.

[Humble Marksman]

They.

[David]

I mean, they do other stuff. You can do classes and stuff there, but it's just all these other ranges are an hour drive from the city and you got to stay 30 minutes away. If you want to stay at an okay hotel, maybe.

[Coleon Noir]

Oh, me, me and Peter do that all the time. I am a hotel snob of the highest order. So we'll go to, we'll go to these, like either training courses and stuff like that. I will stay an hour away and we'll just wake up early and drive in. Like, we'll go stay downtown.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[Coleon Noir]

And then drive in. Just because I'm not. Yeah, I'm a hotel snob. I don't.

[David]

They used to only host nationals at the range in Frostproof, Florida. And Frostproof, Florida is literally like an orange picking town. Like, that's all there is. So it's like a bunch of mobile homes, a McDonald's, a Dollar General, and then it's like huge range. And so there's. You can't stay within 40 minutes if you want like any reasonable accommodation, a place to go eat. The. That's not McDonald's. So I guess the creature comforts that are around it are probably as important or more important than that. But if the humidity is less than about 60%, then that's pretty good because then your sweat actually cools you off.

[Coleon Noir]

Yeah, yeah, that's true. The only thing I will say. So the really dry places, the Danger with those. Especially when you're coming from the south and used. The humidity is. You'll flirt closer with heat stroke out there, because you're not. You have the. Usually the sweat to tell you you're burning the hell up.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[David]

Right.

[Coleon Noir]

But out there. Oh, I'm not sweating. I'm good. Oh, yeah, this is great. And the next thing you know, like, whoa, what's going on? I'm feeling kind of way.

[David]

So what's your favorite place to shoot then?

[Coleon Noir]

Easily. Utah.

[David]

Utah.

[Humble Marksman]

Okay.

[Coleon Noir]

Easily.

[David]

That's where nationals is this year. So I'm gonna be out there.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[Coleon Noir]

And here's the weird thing about it. It's not even that, like, the weather. There's psychopathic. Like, at least where we're like. Mainly I'm speaking, like, in terms like Teesdale. When I go shoot out there with Buck. And I've been at a. I've been at one of his courses one time where in the course of an hour or two, it was sunny, then it was torrential storming, then it was snowing, then it was sleeping, then it was sunny again. Do you remember that, Peter?

[Peter]

Kind of.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[Coleon Noir]

Yeah. Like, it was this period where it was just random muck, but I loved it. I don't know what it is about Utah's weather. And then they don't have bugs either. That's the thing, too.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[Coleon Noir]

Because in Texas, we. We have everything, right? Everything. Every bug's trying to kill you. We're like the Australia. Well, that's.

[David]

The mosquitoes here are on a different level, man.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[David]

I mean, you get a mosquito bite here, and it gives you a massive. Well, like, what the heck's going on?

[Coleon Noir]

Allergic reactions. Yeah, exactly.

[David]

I think I might be allergic to these mosquitoes.

[Coleon Noir]

It's insane. It's nuts, man.

[David]

Like Florida and Georgia. The mosquitoes didn't tear me up near as bad as these ones.

[Coleon Noir]

Do you know what tore me up? One time when we were doing a shoot, it was a. Was it fn? Yeah, it was FN shoot. The Noums. Oh.

[David]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Humble Marksman]

Okay. Yeah.

[Coleon Noir]

They demolished me. And the thing about the noams, they're like little pricks. You're kind of like, oh, that's really annoying. And then you wake up the next day, and then you just lit up.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[Coleon Noir]

And you're like, what the hell? Yeah. No, seems we recently we were out at etts and it had just rained. I mean, just rain and stopped. So we were like, okay, good, we'll be able to get out here and film. We get up There.

[David]

Did it suck the shoes off your feet while you're on the bay?

[Coleon Noir]

Well, oddly enough it wasn't that muddy, was it?

[Peter]

No, because it was like.

[Coleon Noir]

Because it was so dry before.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

[Coleon Noir]

And you know that in our bay, that, that Tax Evan bay, it slopes a little bit. So it kind of until like if.

[Peter]

You have to go to the.

[Coleon Noir]

Exactly.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[Peter]

It's like a mud.

[Coleon Noir]

So it's like you're playing jumping jacks, like going from like solid to solid.

[Humble Marksman]

Right?

[David]

Yeah, right.

[Coleon Noir]

And all of a sudden be's like, what the are those? And there's just a swarm. I didn't even click at the time of just no seams because you know they. The moisture.

[Humble Marksman]

Right.

[Coleon Noir]

Especially after rain and they. I mean a cloud of them. And then I'm like, I don't know. I was like, that's crazy. What the hell are those? So we go out, we're getting ready to start filming and all of a. Then I start feeling it bite, bite, bite, bite by. And they were swarming my head.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[Coleon Noir]

And. And then I just had PTSD from that time when we did the effing shoot. And I got. And I literally called the shoot. I was like, we're done today.

[David]

So you went to the spa and cried and now we're better.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[Coleon Noir]

See, you know, he knows, he knows you pretty well. Yeah, yeah. I like, we're done. Yeah, we're done for the day.

[David]

Let me ask a question because I've started to see this at the YouTube spaces where I to was going. Going initially with the line of questions is it feels like there's like a rise in just like the overly negative, just like crapping on a thing type videos. Like almost creating like the gun guy equivalent of drama. And what's crazy is it's getting big views. Like that's the format that seems to be working for gun channels now.

[Coleon Noir]

So it does work in the short term. There are people I know specifically who used to do that back when I was coming up. And you don't hear about them anymore and because it's short lived. Because the thing about drama is even drama gets old.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[Coleon Noir]

And inevitably after a certain period of time, somebody who's constantly engaging in drama, it's like, well, you're the problem.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah. Right.

[Coleon Noir]

And. And I'm not saying you shouldn't be able to critique other people in the space. I'm not one of those people who are like, we're all a family, don't say anything bad about each other.

[Humble Marksman]

Right.

[Coleon Noir]

If you want to make A video talking about me. By all means, go ahead and do it.

[David]

I mean, I like, that's how I started my channel.

[Peter]

Oh, you're CC348.

[David]

I changed my channel today.

[Humble Marksman]

Oh.

[Coleon Noir]

And now the critiques where I'm like, okay, I see. It's. It's truly a critique. I respect them. A lot of them really is. It's just honestly hate. And they're like, they'll grasp at one little thing.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[Coleon Noir]

And then they'll just ride that. And so you're right. It is happening more. And I think largely because we've been in. Prior to where we are now. We politically, we've been in such a con, like a very contested state.

[David]

Right.

[Coleon Noir]

Because, you know, we've been dealing with the Democrats being in power for the most part. And so we've all kind of had one folk. We had one enemy. Now that things are kind of. Kind of leveled off a little bit for now. Because people forget this. Everything runs in cycles. People understand this. And now I think it's kind of people looking at it like, all right, how can I be a contrarian to the space? That was kind of like, all sing songy. We all get. We are unified in this fight and in that degree. And then it does. It gives you quick views very quickly because you get to leverage somebody who. Who has a big following. And then people like, I want to see it. If somebody makes a video about a big. A big person.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[Coleon Noir]

And I know it's cheating on them. I. I might see what they gotta say. All right, I'm gonna watch it.

[Humble Marksman]

Right.

[David]

Right.

[Coleon Noir]

But by the third video, I won't.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[Coleon Noir]

I'm like, all right, dude. Like, I. I see what you're doing here.

[Humble Marksman]

Right? Yeah.

[Coleon Noir]

And so. But you're not wrong, because I've seen it too. And Peter's ass will send them to me. I'm not even on camera.

[Peter]

And I get.

[Coleon Noir]

I have to tell Peter, like, let it go.

[Peter]

Like, I barely ever comment. I recently commented one dude, because I'm like, I looked them up. And he literally had Coleon shout him out at shot show while we're there. He does it because he's like that with everybody. He's like, yo, yeah, you're doing content. Yeah. Make sure you check out these people. I'm not gonna say the names. And then on his. One of his other videos, he recently was just like, oh, why are you showing this? Oh, that's fucking crazy. I'm like, it just baffles my mind that once you get to a certain Point, they just want to hate on you, but they all want to become what you're doing. They want to get sponsors. He's looking for sponsors. They want to do this and that, but then it's just like, oh, and I get both sides a little bit. But, yeah, it just. It eats me. And I'm not even the person. I'm getting worked up now.

[Humble Marksman]

Let me come back.

[Coleon Noir]

The one thing I will say is, like, for me, I'm a. I am a diehard. I am an affirmative capitalist. I found a passion and. And then down the road, I was able to monetize that passion or create some monetary gain from that passion. I do not apologize for that at all. And the reason why I don't apologize for it is because I modify something I truly love to do. And I'm talking about guns I would otherwise be talking about anyway. And then on top of that, as far as. From an ad standpoint, because I think one of the critiques was. I think I did a video about where I. One of the sponsors was a bed company. They made beds. And they were like, well, why? Like, oh, it's ultimate shilling to do bad. I was like, so it's the ultimate shilling to do us.

[David]

I know the video you're talking about now.

[Coleon Noir]

And I'm like, I don't like. It's. It's ultimate chilling to do a sponsor for a bed company on a video about my bedside gun.

[Peter]

But it's.

[Coleon Noir]

I'm not like, I'm. But even, Even, Even. Even if I wanted to put it in a first mag review.

[David]

Right.

[Coleon Noir]

You don't sleep.

[Humble Marksman]

Right.

[Peter]

Like, all the sponsors he has, like, he genuinely uses them. He likes them. It's not like he's. And I get what they're trying to say, but then I know if you comment or say something to the. Oh, sorry, bro. I was just.

[Coleon Noir]

I was just trying to realize a lot.

[Peter]

All right?

[Coleon Noir]

And I realize a lot. Yeah. So a lot of times people will say stuff because they know it's kind of going against the grain, Right? Because if they see you have a big audience of people who support you, they know they can get your attention. And you know what? It's. It's our fault. It's our fault because I will get. We're doing it now. I'm giving the attention to the negative. At what point have I talked about the people who actually support me vehemently? I haven't mentioned them once.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah, but.

[David]

Well, I mean, it's hard to do because, I mean, the squeaky Wheel gets the grease. And like, I mean, for those of you who don't keep up with YouTube analytics, for every 100 views in a video, you maybe get 10 comments and you get like one. Like, yeah, it's. It's like a 110. One generation.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[David]

So I mean, if you. The comment section really doesn't represent anything because it's just the minority.

[Coleon Noir]

And you have to teach yourself that.

[Humble Marksman]

Oh, yeah.

[Coleon Noir]

For anybody who's going to plan on getting into the space and content creation, understand that, like, you will get. It's easy to think that the comment section is representative of the people who follow you. Most people. Like, when was the last time you commented on a video?

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[David]

Oh, no, I mean, I comment. I comment on my friends videos. Like, guys who I've met.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah, yeah.

[David]

So like, I do that.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[David]

I mean, generally speaking, unless I do try to affirm people when, like, I hadn't seen their channel before and they did a killer job, like, hey, man, this was awesome. You know, I'll try and drop that because you know that I can remember when I've gotten those kind of attaboys. And it makes a big difference.

[Coleon Noir]

It really does. And the thing is, the hardest thing is not to let those become. Don't become too used. Like, get so used to seeing the Atta Boys where you don't acknowledge them anymore. Where they. You just kind of like, okay, yeah, because. Because then you, you do this kind of overt focus on all the negative stuff.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[Coleon Noir]

And then you're just fueling it at that point. And I'm talking to myself. Talking to you.

[David]

Oh, yeah, I get it. And I mean, the other thing is, like, the risk of, like, audience capture because you do something and like, you get a lot of attention for it. So you're like, well, that worked. Maybe I'll try that again. And then all of a sudden, like, you carve a niche unintentionally for yourself because, like, that's all the thing you're doing now. So, I mean, it's, it's wild. It's cool though, because, like, you do get a lot of other perspectives, but you do kind of have to like, okay, is this true or not? Or, like, hadn't really thought about it that way, but I could see why I'd say that. You know, like, it's, it's a hard mirror to look in.

[Coleon Noir]

Sometimes you hit the nail on the head. You're right. Because there's. Sometimes it's like, I'll see a critique and I'll. I want to get mad about it. I'm like, there may be a point to that. And I could. I could. I could see why that person kind of feels that way. And it's hard to do.

[Humble Marksman]

It's really hard to do.

[Coleon Noir]

I'm not gonna lie. It's really hard because you. You do kind of subconsciously develop an ego a little bit. When you. When you've been doing something for so long, getting so many people that support you, it's easy to develop an ego unconsciously where you don't even realize it's there until it gets hit. And then you kind of have to stop yourself. Short of, like, ah, you're just. You're just being egomaniac. Like, calm it down.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[Coleon Noir]

And so that's why I'm almost just like, don't even entertain a lot of it.

[Humble Marksman]

Right.

[Coleon Noir]

What's funny, though, is sometimes it. What's interesting is I'm using you as therapy, by the way.

[David]

Oh, I appreciate that.

[Coleon Noir]

Sometimes we're like, I'm very, very, very good at keeping very private and. But sometimes I kind of want to be.

[David]

Your real name is Colian Noir.

[Coleon Noir]

Right. And sometimes I wanna. Just for the sake of people I know who supported me for so long, I want to be able to kind of just be forthright about certain things, like. And just talk. So, like, now what I've started doing is using, like, I'm telling you right now, when you see me do a single podcast by myself, it's. I'm using it as therapy. Let's just. It's tactical therapy for me. It's because people are like, get to the point. I'm like, that's not the point of this video.

[Humble Marksman]

I need to talk to somebody. And you're gonna listen.

[Coleon Noir]

And that camera. Don't talk back.

[David]

It's.

[Humble Marksman]

Right.

[Coleon Noir]

What was I saying? I was getting to. I was making a point about something. Oh. Sometimes when you give too much nuance.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[Coleon Noir]

People get confused. Like, I did a video recently where I was talking. It was a solo podcast, and I think I was talking about that, like, Lucas Bakken situation.

[Humble Marksman]

Right.

[Coleon Noir]

And the whole point wasn't. I wasn't. It was. It was to be honest. And what I was trying to do, but also giving context. It was like, we're not friends, but I think people. Some people read that as like, I hate him.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[Coleon Noir]

It's like, I don't hate him. I'm not his friend.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah. Right.

[Coleon Noir]

But like, I don't hate him. But then at the same time, I'm like, I tried to give Context, like, well, this is why there were some issues between us. And then people were like, get to the point. Like, there was an unnecessary video. I'm like, well, no, there's history here.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[Coleon Noir]

But then it clicked. There's history here to me. Because I know all the background dealings.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[Coleon Noir]

So I can't necessarily get mad at them for being like, what the was the point of this video for? And I'm like, oh, they weren't there. When there was a back and forth on social media between he and I for, like, that was like eight years ago.

[Humble Marksman]

Right.

[Coleon Noir]

I just assume everybody kind of knew, kind of had a general idea of stuff like that. So that. That's another kind of like kind of ego hit or ego check I had to kind of put on myself. Like, dude, everybody's not following every single thing going on with you.

[Humble Marksman]

Right? Yeah.

[David]

How could you not know? The entire Internet, it's all there. You can go find it. You just ignorant over there. That's. Well, I mean, the Lucas thing has been interesting because, I mean, I don't really follow Lucas.

[Humble Marksman]

I mean, I.

[David]

The kid isn't. He's not kidd. He's man now.

[Humble Marksman]

He.

[David]

He's an amazing shooter. Like, he's got very quick visual processing. His transitions are super fast. Like, he's a good shooter legitimately, but at the same time, like, my most. Like, when we were last summer out at Kimber, it was when he. He took a pass at print, shoot, repeat, and the entire Internet hated him. It was like, how dare you talk about print, shoot, repeat, psr. And, you know, he was just like the villain on the Internet now he's just like, you know, how quickly the. The tide has turned. And he's like the saint against the. These, you know, evil brothers of his or whatever. And it's just. It's wild how it changes so quick.

[Coleon Noir]

It really does, man. Like, the tides can shift in a heartbeat. I've been. I think a lot of people don't realize, like, I've been doing this for a long time and, you know.

[Humble Marksman]

Oh, yeah.

[Coleon Noir]

And I've been through my share of everyone hates me, everyone likes me kind of Everyone hates me, everyone likes me kind of everyone hates me. I think a lot of it, too. I'll be honest, some of it too, is just because of my affiliations. It's kind of like I always. I call. It's the equivalent of like your favorite band.

[David]

Oh, yeah, Right.

[Coleon Noir]

So it's like you have this band nobody really knows about, and then it's like, I love this Band, and then the band gets popular. You're like, I can't wait till people discover this band and then people discover the band to get popular.

[David]

You all liked them before they were cool.

[Humble Marksman]

Yep. Yeah.

[Coleon Noir]

And so. And I know it. It just comes with the territory, you know? And, you know, I. I try to take. Like I said, I don't just completely write everything off. I try to take some of it. And you got to be careful because it can. It can consume you.

[Humble Marksman]

Oh, yeah.

[Coleon Noir]

Well, I think you've done a great.

[David]

Job kind of anchoring yourself in what you want to be like. I saw it because, I mean, we're of a similar age and we probably consumed a lot of the same media. So, like, very clearly you enjoyed the show. Top Gear gun reviews, and that's basically what they are. And so that's what you do. And, like, you stay kind of true to what your vision on, like, this is what it should kind of look like. And so, like, regardless of which way the wind is blowing, you've been very consistent in that. And I mean, if you're trying to do the content creation game, like, you kind of got to be like, you have to be aware of what the trends are and exploit them to the extent you can.

[Coleon Noir]

Yeah.

[David]

But you have to stay true to the thing that you got you started. Like, for me, it was really around, like, performance pistol shooting. And, like, does the thing do what it says it's supposed to do or is it market? You know? And that. That's kind of been my thing. Like, I haven't put too much on aesthetics, which are. My videos look terrible.

[Humble Marksman]

But.

[Coleon Noir]

But here's the thing. Here's the thing, though. And I've said this. I don't think people listen. I always said I am a gateway drug. I'm a gateway. You come in. I'm not saying everybody comes in through me, but if you do happen to come in through me, I'm. I look at myself as a facilitator towards people like you because I. I look at firearms in a very different manner. I look at fires in a very hypey manner. Oh, yeah, right. And so from that perspective, I like, the content's free. So watch my video on this gun, then go watch his video on the gun. And then you'd be mean. You can. You'll be able to better tailor a personal idea of how that gun is going to be for you.

[Humble Marksman]

Right.

[Coleon Noir]

And I think people. Miss. Don't really understand that. Like, and it's like, no, I. I fully expect somebody to watch My video. And like, okay, let me go see what the humble market has to say.

[David]

Yeah, no, I know everything about there is.

[Humble Marksman]

Right. Yeah.

[Coleon Noir]

Because your prowess that you have from shooting competition is going to lead you to look at the gun in a different manner.

[Humble Marksman]

Right.

[Coleon Noir]

And you may not realize that, you know, what his perspective is something I kind of was looking for with this particular gun, or I'm looking at a gun from a different perspective because of my background, my upbringing, or what I've done with a gun. And so you have the resources there.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah, right.

[Coleon Noir]

Like, and that's what I tell everybody.

[David]

Like, don't just take my word for it. Go like, watch all the videos you can find. And you. That's what I kind of figure. And I mean, not every. Like, as a content creator, we're not going to be everything to everyone. And so, like, there's parts of what you say, parts of, like, one of the things I enjoy about your stuff is that, like, you're very into kind of the emotion and the feel of what you kind of experience with the thing. I'm much nerdier and scientific and, you know, that's how my mind kind of thinks about things. And I mean, I've seen the cars you drive, so I know what you're after, but it's just, it's different from everybody. Like, you kind of have to do your homework if you really want to avoid stroking a check and regretting it later. It's just, don't. Don't listen. Like, don't listen to his opinion. Don't listen to my opinion. Like, take, take it all as data and figure out what it is you want. Because, I mean, I get questions all the time, like, should, like, it was comparing the staccato HDP4 to the bull Armory Tac Pro, which is a ported gun, like pseudo 2011. Yeah, it's like, well, do you want extra holes in the barrel or not? You do? Well, only one of them has extra holes in the barrel. Pick that one. Yeah, so I mean, it's just. Those are the kinds of like, either or type questions. Again, it's just like, really think about what you want from the thing, whatever it is. And if you can't, like, come up with like, program requirements for what it's supposed to be, then like, I can't tell you that. Like, I don't know how big your hands are or like what you. You like heavy guns?

[Coleon Noir]

You like that guns?

[David]

Exactly.

[Humble Marksman]

I mean, yeah.

[Coleon Noir]

Like how. What type of style shooter are you?

[David]

What kind of optic do you Want.

[Coleon Noir]

To put on it?

[David]

Because it's just, like, if you want to put a big dot on it, then you can't put. Get an RMSC footprint gun because you get a small window, then, like, that's fine. It's just a different.

[Coleon Noir]

Can you see?

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[Coleon Noir]

Like, what are your eyes doing?

[Humble Marksman]

Right.

[Coleon Noir]

It's. It's. But I think that's also the beauty behind it. I think for a lot of people, too, they kind of look at buying the gun as the end game. And I don't look at it that way, because that. For me, my first gun that I bought, which was a Ruger SR40, that was the gateway.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah, I remember those guys.

[David]

Hey, man. Springfield XD9 service.

[Humble Marksman]

So. Okay. All right. Yeah, it's right there with you.

[Coleon Noir]

Safety. Yep. Yeah, it. For me, it was a journey because I thought, okay, I'm gonna get this gun. This is it.

[David]

40 is the ultimate cartridge. It has all the stuff I got in most of the capacity. And then you're like, now I get angry when I see 40 brass on the range.

[Coleon Noir]

I know, like, who still shoots 40? Like, this is gross.

[Humble Marksman]

But.

[Coleon Noir]

But the process is fun. You know, I went through a process one time, my friend was like, at the beginning of my firearm journey, he was like, dude, all you do is buy and trade guns. He's like, you buy one gun, and then you go and you trade it, and then you go and you trade it, and then you get another, and you go and you trade it. And I was like, yeah, I'm broke.

[David]

It's all my money in that guy right there. I have to get my money out of that guy.

[Coleon Noir]

Yeah. You know, and then. And then, because I am, like. Like, you pointed out, like, I'm a very, like, emotion. Like, I'm emotive when it comes to firearms and shooting. Shooting is, like, an emotional experience for me in a lot of ways. I don't mean that in that weird.

[David]

Kind of like, he meditates after he's done shooting.

[Humble Marksman]

I've seen it.

[Coleon Noir]

But the gun was a catalyst for me to appreciate being out in nature.

[Humble Marksman]

Right.

[Coleon Noir]

And so it pulled me. I love the concrete jungle. Jungle. But it, you know, can kind of weigh on you sometimes. And so that contrast. The gun is the reason why I learned to appreciate it. So when I'm out there and I am shooting and, you know, I shoot a gun, and God forbid the gun actually works well with my body mechanics, and I shoot it well, naturally. Oh, it's the most awesome experience in the world. And so that's why you know, I communicate about guns the way that I do and I love machinery, like you pointed out.

[Humble Marksman]

Oh yeah, yeah.

[Coleon Noir]

Like, I love cars. So in cars, I don't care what anyone says, Stop. The vast majority of is how the car looks for a lot. That's what it is when you start especially talking about the cars that I talk about.

[Humble Marksman]

Right.

[Peter]

He drives a Tesla.

[Humble Marksman]

So. Yeah.

[David]

Tesla driver here.

[Peter]

The Tesla driver.

[David]

We're not friends anymore. He just looked at me that way.

[Coleon Noir]

But I think within the spectrum of electric vehicles, Tesla is at the top of the better looking ones. So even then it's still. It's okay. It plays a part, right? It does.

[Humble Marksman]

Right.

[Coleon Noir]

And so I just kind of. I did the same thing with guns in a lot of ways because I think guns are beautiful. Some are ugly, actually. I'm not going to say which ones are. I'll probably do a video on that.

[David]

But top five, seriously, right?

[Coleon Noir]

Yeah, but, yeah, but by and large, you know, it's. I am emotive when it comes to firearms because. But then also too, the firearm served as pulling me out of a dark period in my life.

[Humble Marksman]

Right.

[Coleon Noir]

So the gun going out and shooting was an escape for me.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[Coleon Noir]

And so that's why for me it's that kind of emotional, you know, experience. Whenever I go out and shoot, I keep saying emotion makes it sound.

[Peter]

So this is definitely like tactical therapy right here.

[David]

No worries.

[Peter]

The humble therapist.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[David]

So tell me about your child.

[Coleon Noir]

I just signed up for this. But yeah, so for me that's just, you know, that.

[David]

So it's interesting to hear kind of your experience with like, what really drew me specifically to handguns is it's really difficult to shoot them well. Like, they're very simple to use, but they're very like, it's all about how you like, define what success and good shooting kind of looks like.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[David]

And it's really easy to get sucked into the three rounds, three seconds, three yards and like, okay, that's one performance standard. But there's a lot more than that. And, but the like, number one, it's difficult to do. So it takes a lot of focus to just kind of try and do everything right to get the result you're looking for. But then like the concussion when the gun goes off, it just like completely, like it takes your world and everything you're thinking about down to being about this big. And it's just like an easy way to like, you just get lost in the moment. And there are very few things that reward kind of that level of like dedicated Practice and performance and provide that level. It's not an escape necessarily, but it's like a reprieve for like everything else swirling around. Because, I mean, number one, they're dangerous.

[Humble Marksman]

Sure.

[Coleon Noir]

That you're, you know, focus as hell.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[David]

You gotta, gotta be safe with them. But then to do the things you're trying to do with them, like, it's not easy. Like, if you want to shoot a 3 inch group at 25 yards, that's not an easy thing to do.

[Coleon Noir]

I don't understand how hard it is to shoot a handgun. Yeah, like you pointed out, like, it's hard.

[David]

Shooting at 100 yards is really hard.

[Coleon Noir]

I saw. Okay, this one did hurt my feelings. I saw a video and I was re. I just. It was old video. I did an older video and I saw a comment and the guy goes, dude, you really got to work on your shooting, dude. You're not like, you're not that good. And I was like, you. I'm recording. I'm doing a first mag. I'm walking, talking, and shooting at a target at 25 yards that is smaller than a person you. Like, I'm not going to hit every shot. Like, that's not like, that's not how this works. But I get it.

[Humble Marksman]

Right?

[Coleon Noir]

Like it's, it's, you know, unless you're out there doing it, it's going to be hard to really kind of really understand. And, you know, most people don't get to shoot as dynamically as we do.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Coleon Noir]

And so if you're at a range and you're shooting at a piece of paper and you hit two bullseyes and then the rest of your target looks like a proactive commercial. You think you did good, when in reality.

[David]

I was like, wait, hold on, he's talking about the zit cream. Yeah, he sure is. All right.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[David]

I call that like your target looks like you've been pattern buckshot.

[Humble Marksman]

Right.

[Coleon Noir]

And it's in. In all fairness, most people, like I said, don't get to shoot as dynamically as I said. They don't know that. Walking, talking and trying to maintain your mechanics from a shooting standpoint while you're filming a video, try not to study your words and remember what you're trying to say. It's gonna be a little difficult.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah, right.

[David]

What's using different sides of your brain? Like, it's just come. Like I'm trying to tell you this thing.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[David]

That helps you understand what I'm experiencing. So that's like this speech part. Then you're Using, like, the biomechanics? Yeah, I never even thought about that. I mean, it's. It's hitting both sides of the brain, and it's. It's not easy. That's why I don't talk on the range, because I don't do a good job.

[Humble Marksman]

So.

[Coleon Noir]

But. Okay, last question.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[Coleon Noir]

And then I'll let you go because. And I know I owe you money for my therapy session. Do you notice sometimes now you're a better shooter than me, so maybe not. But do you notice sometimes when you go shoot and then you take a break and then you come, like, you shoot, like to say you don't shoot for a while, maybe it's a week or two, and then you come back, you shoot way better?

[David]

A little bit, yeah. Is that a thing?

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[David]

So people, like, the people who are, like, big into competitive shooting, will engineer an off season, specifically trying to, like, get to, like. Because if you care about a thing too much, you're going to, like, over try.

[Coleon Noir]

Gotcha.

[David]

And I mean, when you have no expectation and you're just stepping up and doing it, like you're relying on kind of like just the good habits you've built without, like, I'm trying to change this aspect of my grip. And like, all the little stuff that you've been experimenting with, you just kind of let go of them and just do it. So, like, that's like. Like your pure, like, base level of skill without you cluttering it up with, like, you know, I saw this Travis Haley video, and now I gotta fling my magazines. You know that Travis. Yeah, I enjoy the magpul dynamics. So, yeah, that is absolutely a phenomenon because, like, people will come back and it's like, wow, he hasn't lost any speed. This is incredible. But then, you know, there's other stuff that does slip because some of it does degrade, because if you're not used to how the gun's moving in your hand, know you. You're not necessarily gripping it right. And your, you know, patterns can open up. And, you know, there's other stuff that does get a little worse. So it just depends on what you're defining success as at that point. Some of the stuff you do well, some of the stuff you do worse.

[Coleon Noir]

So that was actually a damn good answer. I didn't. I didn't expect to be that good, because I was like, oh, yeah, I didn't think about it.

[Peter]

That's why he's the humble therapist.

[David]

That's right. That's what the monocle's for.

[Humble Marksman]

In the.

[Coleon Noir]

Yeah, but. No, man, I really appreciate it. Yeah, man. No, it's such a local, man. You're always. Do it again.

[David]

This was great.

[Coleon Noir]

Yeah.

[David]

So go drive your Ferraris around.

[Coleon Noir]

I don't have a Ferrari.

[David]

I'm trying to encourage you.

[Humble Marksman]

I wish I did.

[Coleon Noir]

Yeah, yeah, I know, right?

[David]

I wish you did, too.

[Humble Marksman]

Yeah.

[Coleon Noir]

I mean, sometimes they give me them for like a weekend. So if you want, I can come pick. Not like a date or any. That'd be weird. But, you know, we'll.

[David]

We'll play electronic dance music and drive around the star.

[Humble Marksman]

Like.

[Peter]

You're not even like that far off.

[David]

I'm like, we really bright sunglasses so everyone can see us.

[Peter]

You wear your short shorts and the.

[David]

I always wear the short shorts, so that is not a problem. It is hot in Texas.

[Humble Marksman]

It is hot. Like. Yeah. No.

[Peter]

There's so many clips from this I'm going to be taking already talking about these grips that he likes big things in his hands. Oh, man, this is great.

[David]

How used to palm balls as a kid.

[Coleon Noir]

God damn, I hate Peter Simone.

[Humble Marksman]

Cool, cool. Cut, cut.