EMERGENCY POD: War With Iran

The Commentary Magazine Podcast
Date of Recording: February 28, 2026
Host: John Podhoretz with Abe Greenwald, Jonathan Schanzer, and Ruthie Bloom

Episode Overview

This emergency episode convenes the Commentary team and special guests to provide immediate, on-the-ground and analytic coverage as the United States and Israel launch an unprecedented military campaign against Iran. As the war unfolds and the situation remains fluid, the conversation explores the immediate impact on Israel, rapid Arab world reactions, U.S. and Israeli objectives, regime collapse prospects in Iran, and the larger geopolitical ramifications of a potentially game-changing event in the Middle East.

Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. First-Person Account from Israel: Life Under Attack

• (00:53–07:48)
• Ruthie Bloom from Tel Aviv gives a real-time window into civilian experience:
  • Israel awoke to special air raid sirens on Shabbat; sirens warned to “stay near bomb shelters”—not an immediate missile attack, but a preparatory alert.
  • Within half an hour, true air raid alarms sounded and continued every 30 min–1 hour throughout the day.
  • Shelters themselves are "filthy and falling apart, but a bomb shelter nonetheless" (Ruthie, 01:21).
  • The repeated "boom" of interceptions is, ironically, a sound of safety: "The boom is the interception... a sign bomb has been prevented" (John, 04:09).
  • Ruthie relays the danger of flying shrapnel and gives context from previous attacks (including October 7 and incidents where projectiles did hit).
  • Reports of not only Israeli but also UAE infrastructure being hit by falling shrapnel following interceptions (John, 05:57).

2. Iran's Attacks: Regional Chaos and Arab Reactions

• (07:48–09:45)
• Jonathan Schanzer documents Iranian missile barrages indiscriminately targeting:
  • Bahrain (including residential towers, U.S. 5th Fleet base)
  • Kuwait (airport)
  • Qatar, Iraq (Erbil), and projectiles over Jordan
• Notable Arab unity emerges—public coordination between Saudis, Emiratis, Qataris, and Jordanians:
  • "The Iranians are, I think in some ways, unifying the Arab world..." (Jonathan, 09:20).

3. Iran's Missile Capabilities and Targeting: Precision or Panic?

• (10:09–12:43)
• Debate over whether indiscriminate Iranian strikes reflect strategic intent or eroding capabilities.
  • "They're trying to topple the largest tower in the world... trying to replicate 9/11 here in New York in Dubai." (Jonathan, 10:38)
• Israel's preemptive attacks on missile infrastructure appear to have limited Iran's most dangerous solid-fuel missile strikes; launches now rely on less accurate, harder-to-deploy liquid fuel missiles.
• Total missile launches at Israel (by early in the war): ~180—"far fewer than anybody thought." (Jonathan, 11:31)

4. Proxy Factors: Where Are Hezbollah and the Houthis?

• (12:43–14:28)
• To this point, neither Hezbollah in Lebanon nor Houthis in Yemen have entered the conflict, despite Israeli preparations for a multi-front escalation.

5. Division of Labor: U.S. vs. Israeli Strategic Aims

• (14:28–17:45)
• US Targeting: Primarily nuclear and missile sites threatening American/global security.
• Israeli Targeting: Top regime leadership and IRGC, including reported killing of Supreme Leader Khamenei and other senior figures.
  • "There are celebrations in Iran after the belief that Ali Khamenei... was killed." (Jonathan, 15:46)
• "Our purpose is not regime change... Israel is doing the regime change." (John, 15:20)

6. The Trump Factor: Limited Operation or Decisive Coup?

• (17:45–19:16; 22:18–24:55)
• Discussion of President Trump's public ambiguity about possible "off ramps," negotiation windows, or extended military strikes.
• Israeli anxiety over a possible U.S. "limited strike"—returning to negotiations after initial blows.
  • "Every time the regime has come to the table, they have fleeced the United States." (Jonathan, 18:35)
• The “Maduro option”: Decapitate leadership, hope for negotiated compliance—could this work in an ideologically driven Iran?
  • "The regime in Iran is filled with true believers..." (Jonathan, 24:11)

7. Day After Regime Change: Fears, Hopes, and Black Boxes

• (24:57–34:34)
• Israeli PM Netanyahu’s address signals outreach to Iran's military: “We are giving an off-ramp not to the Revolutionary Guards and not to the regime, but anybody in the Iranian military.” (Ruthie, 25:00)
• Speculation on deep Israeli intelligence penetration, potential plans for post-regime transition, and the uncertain emergence of moderate or pro-Western leadership.
• "Anyone who says they know [who comes next]... I’m going to have to question." (Jonathan, 30:53)

8. Degrading Regime Capabilities

• (39:19–41:01)
• Systematic targeting of command, control, and communications may have left the Iranian regime unable to relay orders or coordinate counterattacks effectively.
  • "They literally aren't in touch... so make that decision." (John, 39:54)

9. Risks: Sleeper Cells, Asymmetric Threats, and Insurgency

• (41:01–44:19)
• Fears of Iranian asymmetric response via sleeper cells in the West—potential sabotage, assassinations.
• Worry that IRGC remnants could "melt away" a la Iraq 2003, hiding hardware and preparing an insurgency to sabotage any new order.

10. Defining Victory and Dangers of Failure

• (44:19–46:40)
• Debate on the limits of U.S. responsibilities if a post-regime Iran fails to stabilize: "It’s not exactly our failure this time." (Abe, 44:26)
• Iranian second-strike threats and possible catastrophic attacks explored.

11. Iran’s Remaining Arsenal and Launch Capabilities

• (56:14–60:08)
• Before war: 5,000–7,000 missiles remaining (though aiming ability may be less reliable, and launchers are being destroyed).
• “The number they can fire directly correlates to the number of missile launchers that they have... If you can destroy the missile launchers, then the missiles become obsolete.” (Jonathan, 59:05)
• Some in Israel expect air superiority within 24 hours.

12. Geopolitical Stakes: A Pivotal Day for the Century?

• (60:08–70:44)
• John's thesis: This may be the most important day of the 21st century; decades of U.S. security/focus shackled by the Iranian regime could end—“so freeing, so liberating.”
• Jonathan: Iran’s fall would remove the hidden hand behind nearly all major non-state actor conflicts and the destabilizing “three-legged stool” of China/Russia/Iran.
  • “If we kick out one of those legs... it does raise some really interesting questions about the great power competition.” (Jonathan, 66:43)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• [01:21] Ruthie Bloom (on the bomb shelter):

  "It's filthy, and it's like falling apart. But it's a bomb shelter, and so all the neighbors in that building and my building can go in there."

• [04:09] John Podhoretz:

  "The boom is a success, not a failure. The boom is the interception... the thing that sounds like a bomb going off is actually a sign bomb has been prevented."

• [09:20] Jonathan Schanzer:

  "The Iranians are, I think in some ways, unifying the Arab world and maybe even unifying this idea that the US-led alliance which includes Israel, also includes the Arab world."

• [10:38] Jonathan Schanzer (on Dubai strikes):

  "They're trying to topple the largest tower in the world. This is like the Iranians trying to replicate 9/11 here in New York..."

• [13:15] John Podhoretz:

  "If you're hearing a weird tone during the course of this podcast, that is Ruthie's phone... her early warning system."

• [15:20] John Podhoretz (on US/Israeli division of labor):

  "Our purpose is not regime change... Israel is doing the regime change."

• [18:35] Jonathan Schanzer (on Iran negotiations):

  "Every time the regime has come to the table, they have fleeced the United States. We walk out without our pants on."

• [24:11] Jonathan Schanzer (on the 'Maduro Option'):

  "The regime in Iran is filled with true believers who've been brought up on this idea of a revolution from the moment they were born."

• [25:00] Ruthie Bloom (on Netanyahu's address):

  "We are giving an off ramp not to the Revolutionary Guards and not to the regime, but anybody in the Iranian military..."

• [30:53] Jonathan Schanzer:

  "No clue. And anybody who says that they know [who comes next in Iran], I got to say I'm going to have to question..."

• [39:54] John Podhoretz:

  "They literally aren't in touch... so make that decision." (on C3 paralysis in Iran)

• [59:05] Jonathan Schanzer:

  "If you can destroy the missile launchers, then the missiles become obsolete... this explains a little bit of the hunting expedition..."

• [63:40] John Podhoretz:

  "The geopolitical implications of this are so large, it's so freeing, it's so liberating..."

• [66:43] Jonathan Schanzer:

  "It's China, Russia and Iran working together. If we kick out one of those legs, it does raise some really interesting questions about the great power competition..."

• [68:26] John Podhoretz:

  "The amount of CIA, Treasury Department, State Department, energy, focus, obsession with all of the ancillary things that go on with this throughout my lifetime is incomparable. And so moving it into a subsidiary... position while we focus on the real problem is deeply in the American interest."

Important Timestamps

• [00:53–07:48] Ruthie describes life in Tel Aviv under attack
• [07:48–09:45] Jonathan examines Iran's regional missile barrage and the Arab reaction
• [10:09–12:43] Analysis of Iranian missile types, tactics, and efficacy
• [14:28–17:45] US and Israeli operational objectives explained
• [24:57–34:34] "Day after" regime change: What’s next for Iran?
• [41:01–44:19] Risks of asymmetric retaliation and a possible Iranian insurgency
• [56:14–60:08] Iranian missile arsenal assessment
• [60:08–66:43] Grand geopolitics: The end of an era?
• [66:43–70:44] Axis of adversaries: Implications for US–China–Russia competition

Tone and Style

• Spirited, urgent, and analytic, with a distinctly Commentary Magazine blend of factual reporting, sharp candor, and sober reflection on both historical context and potential futures.
• Real-time, matter-of-fact but with palpable tension, especially as Ruthie intermittently responds to sirens—"I have to go to the bomb shelter." ([34:34])
• Occasional humor amid the gravitas, especially during meta-political asides.

Final Thoughts

This episode is a rare real-time, intellectual and emotional chronicle of the outbreak of a major war. The hosts provide not just instantly useful information for anyone trying to understand what is happening, but substantial reflection on both the risks and the unparalleled opportunity this moment might bring—both for the Middle East and for the United States' global role. The conversation ends with an honest caution: regime collapse is not regime replacement, and "the hard work actually begins after you topple the regime." (Jonathan, 65:58)

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