Everyone Hide!! Bryan's Mom Knows!

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Commercial Break

Episode Title: Everyone Hide!! Bryan's Mom Knows!
Date: April 11, 2025
Hosts: Bryan Green and Krissy Hoadley

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Overview

In this lively episode, Bryan and Krissy revel in their signature brand of improv comedy as they discuss a hilarious—and mortifying—milestone: Bryan’s mom and her friends have found and are listening to the podcast. The episode spirals from Bryan’s existential dread about family members tuning in, to reflections on the awkward fame of being a niche podcaster, and culminates in a riotous review/skewering of a “pickup artist” documentary. The episode is classic TCB: part confessional, part roast, and always unpredictable, filled with tangents and satirical commentary on pop culture oddities.

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Main Discussion Points

1. Bryan’s Mom Discovers the Podcast (00:00–09:24)

• Bryan’s mixed feelings: Bryan reveals that his mother and her senior home friends have figured out how to listen to the show—by googling his name.
• Why he’s never told her about the podcast: “Quite frankly, I don't need her to find it. Right? I don't need my mom to listen to the show.” (02:04, Bryan)
• His mother’s pride (with a dose of confusion): She tells her friends Bryan runs "the top podcast in his area." Bryan and Krissy delight in the absurdity:
  • “Within a mile radius, I'm pretty sure we're the top podcast.” (03:07, Bryan)
• Anxiety about content: Now that family, Starbucks employees, and school acquaintances are aware of the podcast, Bryan dreads having to explain his irreverent (often NSFW) content.

2. Reflections on Podcast Fame and Identity (09:24–16:34)

• Podcaster vs. ‘Normal Job’: Bryan envies the simplicity of other dads' professions versus the peculiar need to constantly explain himself as a podcaster.
• Dream jobs: The two riff on envy of Drew Carey, Ryan Seacrest, and Elizabeth Banks for their comfortable, family-friendly TV gigs.
  • “No one says that [Drew Carey’s] the guy from the Price is Right… and no one cares. Now I'm the guy from the commercial break and no one cares.” (11:16, Bryan)
• Family-friendly aspirations: They joke about game show hosting as the perfect “barely famous” and “no angry emails from mom” career.

3. Listener Interaction: Kylan Requests More “Pickup Artist” and “Mountain Monsters” (20:40–22:31)

• Text from listener Kylan: Asks for more content about “pickup artists.”
• Bryan’s response (going into Dad mode): “School's definitely your job. Get through at least high school. And then the world is your royster.” (21:55, Bryan)
• Promise to cover more “pickup artist” content.

4. The 21 Convention & “Pickup Artist” Satire (23:50–65:18)

• Introduction to the 21 Convention: Bryan and Krissy explain its hilarious infamy as a “douchebaggery deep pool,” mocking both the event and its “gurus.”
  • “The smallest penises available to the women in the general Orlando area.” (24:03, Bryan)
• Focus on Adam Lyons (“Adam the Liar”):
  • Background: Adam has rebranded himself dozens of times—SEO expert, polyamory coach, life coach, etc.—and is the subject of a “biopic”/YouTube documentary Bryan and Krissy review live.
  • Commentary on Adam’s claims, including his “14 girlfriends,” “walking into clubs with 250 girls,” and “kicking naked women out of his bedroom.”
    • Memorable quote: “14 girlfriends. He just said he hates when his pickup artist guru, the people he looked up to make it sound like they're all that. And now he's doing it himself. 14. Give me a break.” (35:18, Bryan)
    • “I've got a testimonial from a guy who saw women getting kicked out of my bedroom who were trying to have sex with me at the good old Pee Way summit.” (38:37, Bryan, mocking Adam)
• Bryan & Krissy roast Adam’s self-mythologizing:
  • “He really does look like a clown.” (65:28, Bryan)
  • “If you realize the pinnacle of poo tang, like I have like having 380,000 women in your bed at one time, then you realize it really doesn't make you happy to have so many beautiful naked women around you.” (37:41, Bryan as faux-Adam)
  • Ongoing theme: The “documentary” is really just Adam talking to himself, serving as a vessel for humble bragging and trying to sell bootcamps.
• Satirizing the “industry”:
  • The hosts riff on the pseudo-corporate jargon of the PUA world (the “Walmart of pickup artists,” “infrastructure,” and “testimonials”) comparing it to multi-level marketing and reality TV tropes.

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• “Within a mile radius, I'm pretty sure we're the top podcast.”
  —Bryan, joking about his mom’s definition of fame (03:07)

• “I feel like I'm a teenager and I've been busted in the basement whacking off. And now I gotta…calm it down a little bit.”
  —Bryan, about his mom hearing explicit content (03:42)

• “No one says that he's the guy from the Price is Right and no one cares. Now I'm the guy from the commercial break and no one cares.”
  —Bryan, on being ‘barely’ famous (11:16)

• “It's a deep pool of douchebaggery. That's well said my friend.”
  —Bryan, introducing the 21 Convention content (23:55)

• “14 girlfriends. Give me a break.”
  —Bryan, responding to Adam Lyons’ claim (35:18)

• “I've got a testimonial from a guy who saw women getting kicked out of my bedroom who were trying to have sex with me at the good ol’ Pee Way summit.”
  —Bryan lampooning Adam’s wild claims (38:37)

• “By adding value, I mean, dropping seed in your uterus.”
  —Bryan, mocking the PUA industry’s concept of ‘adding value’ (53:55)

• “Peacock. Peacock. Peacock. Get her into your room. Low lighting, loud music. Let's go, let's go, let's go. You're getting laid this weekend. Yes, sir. I can hear you instantly.”
  —Bryan, satirizing PUA bootcamp drills (55:21)

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Key Segments & Timestamps

| Segment | Start | End | Content Summary | |--------------------------------------------|------------|------------|-----------------| | Bryan’s Mom and the Senior Home Gang | 00:00 | 09:24 | Discovery, reactions, family awkwardness | | Podcast Fame, Envy of Game Show Hosts | 09:24 | 16:34 | Rethinking career goals, pop-culture riffs | | Listener Kylan & Show Requests | 20:40 | 22:31 | Text exchanges, promise to roast PUAs | | 21 Convention & Pickup Artist Documentary | 23:50 | 65:18 | Deep-dive reactor-podcast segment (Adam Lyons documentary) | | Closing Banter and Preview of Big Event | 65:18 | End | Teasing the upcoming “12 hours of TCB” |

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Tone & Style

The episode is irreverent, gleefully self-deprecating, and meandering in the best sense—turning potentially embarrassing life events into comedic gold. Bryan and Krissy’s banter is quick-witted and layered with sarcastic asides, pop culture name-drops, and theatrical mockery of their subjects—especially the PUA documentary. The tone frequently oscillates between confessional vulnerability (about family “discovering” their careers) and acerbic, improv-heavy satire.

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For New Listeners

• You’ll get a taste of what makes TCB unique: inside jokes, running gags, and a constant willingness to turn even the most cringe-worthy internet subcultures into fodder for sharp, absurdist comedy.
• Don’t expect tight structure—do expect unscripted honesty and relentless roasting.
• The PUA “deep-dive” is not an endorsement but a showcase of the hosts’ ability to lampoon online hucksters.

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Quick Takeaways

• Bryan’s nightmare comes true: His mom and her friends are listeners, forcing comic reckonings with the show’s “not safe for seniors” content.
• The hosts dissect the weird, small-town fame of podcasters and fantasize about easy-money TV gigs.
• A “listener request” leads to one of TCB’s trademark raucous reviews: a real-time takedown of a self-important pickup artist documentary—heavy on false bravado, heavier on cringe.
• As always, plenty of fourth-wall-breaking jibes about their podcast process, listeners, and upcoming “12 Hours of TCB" live event.

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For fans and new listeners alike, "Everyone Hide!! Bryan's Mom Knows!" is a prime example of the show’s willingness to roast itself, its fans, and the sillier corners of the internet with equal gusto.

Transcript

[A]

I am done with Josh. He's an alcoholic, he's a user, he's a douchebag. He has issues, he has problems. He's a cheater and he's scandalous. And I hope he goes to prison in jail because he deserves it. On this episode of the commercial break, you know, there's probably a few whiz bangers in there that were like, yeah, I agree with you, Brian. But I would imagine most people are not that way. You know, those people are long since gone. Those people have died. They died in the 80s. So yet another place I have to go and explain myself. And that, that doesn't always feel good. Sometimes I do wish I had a normal job where I just didn't have to explain myself. I meet other dads and they're like, you know, yeah, I own a bike shop or yeah, you know, I'm in the elevator business or whatever they do. And I'm like, oh, okay, that's great. Tell me more about it so I can pretend like I do that next time I meet somebody. The next episode of the commercial break starts now. 2:30 in the morning. Oh, yeah. Cats and kittens, welcome back to the commercial break. I'm Brian Green. This is my dear friend and the co host of this show, Chris Joy Hoadley. Best to you, Chris. A. Best to you, Brian. Best to you. Out there in the podcast universe, how the hell are you? Including my mother who now listens to the show, apparently.

[B]

That's right.

[A]

If you're listening closely to the commercial break, then you will know that my mom and her friends around the senior citizens home table have discovered a way to listen the commercial break. They found it. They also.

[B]

Five years.

[A]

Yes. They discovered someone was young enough at the table to know what a podcast was. Either that or they listened to a lot of Fox News on podcasts. One of the two, my mom left Astrid a message which was embedded into the beginning of the show. The clips that we do, the bits at the beginning, that was that I cut up and embedded into the show where my mom explained to Astrid that the girls at the table had been wondering for a while how they. Where, where was the show? How could they find it? Where was it? And so even though I've never given my mom the name of the. I mean, she must know the commercial breaks and aim because the kids even say it. But I've never given her any directions on how to find it because quite frankly, I don't need her to find it. Right? I don't need my mom to listen to the show. I can tell her what we're doing. I don't need her to listen to the show. Hi, Brian, it's your mom. Hi, mom. What you doing? Oh, just sitting around staring at your show. I'm trying to tune it in on the radio. Okay, mom, talk to you later. Bye. Call you five minutes from now for no reason.

[C]

Okay, mom.

[A]

Talk to you later. She told Astrid that the girls at the table had been wondering how they found the show, how would they listen to the show? And then they googled my name and found it. And then my mom leaves in the message that they also found out that we were the top podcast in our area. That's how my mom said it. They also discovered that Brian's the top podcast in his area. In my area. Yeah, I am. I am the top podcast in my area. No shit.

[B]

I'm sure that's a Starbucks. You are.

[A]

Hey, listen, within a mile radius, I'm pretty sure we're the top podcast. Top podcast in your area. Yes, mom. She's so clueless. And then she said that the girls were gonna get together that night and listen to the podcast. And I have not heard from my mother. That tracks for clarity. My mom calls every 15 minutes. I have to purposefully mute my phone because I know my mother's gonn. I know she is during the show while we record. So I don't know what to tell you kids. My mom's on to us.

[B]

I guess it's not for everyone.

[A]

I guess we all have to cut out the cussing now to settle down. I feel like I'm a teenager and I've been busted in the basement whacking off. And now I gotta. I gotta calm it down a little bit. So. Funny thing is, they say they're gonna get together that night and listen to the show. And it's the show that we did about studs.

[B]

Oh, right, okay.

[A]

And the preview clip that was cut, you know, the. You know, coming up on this episode of the commercial break, then there's a preview clip, 30 to 45 seconds of the show that we find interesting that we put in there. And the clip is me making fun of the guy saying, we did San Diego. And I go, what is doing San Diego? What does that mean? You jizzed up against the wall. Give me 50 bucks and I'll fuck ya. So within 30 seconds of hearing the show, my mom. My mom probably was like, oh, that's not him. Turn it off.

[B]

Right, Exactly.

[A]

Not my Brian. He wouldn't talk like that. Oh, it's all over. I was lamenting the people at Starbucks knowing about the commercial break, the people at school knowing about the commercial break. Now my mom and her friends knowing how to get the commercial break. I mean, we're far from famous, kids. Don't let anyone chart appearances or big numbers. Big number. Over 40 downloads. Don't let me. Don't let anything fool you. We don't get noticed on the street. No one's knocking down our door to do anything. I think the only other famous person who's ever done anything remotely nice for us was Ari Shafir. And I think he did that because he felt bad for us.

[B]

Probably.

[A]

Yeah. So. But I'm sharing that. I feel a little bit cornered. Like, the commercial break is not a normal job, and. No, no, no, no, it's not a normal job. As a matter of fact, it's a job that keeps you from getting a normal job. That's how it should be described.

[B]

That is so true.

[A]

I don't know why I think everything's so funny today, but I do. And. And the. The fact that I like. There's not a lot of safe places where people just assume I have some normal job. I mean, I. Starbucks now. They desperately want to ask me about the content of today's show, but I just keep, like, avoiding eye contact.

[B]

Yeah, I would.

[A]

Yeah, I do. Because I don't. You know, I don't. I'm sorry I said the guy. Just against the. I mean, what do you want me to say? I'm sure not everybody agrees with the content that we're putting out there. It's not for everybody. It's not for everybody. We're student podcasters, Chrissy. That's what we are. Student.

[B]

Please get patient.

[A]

Please be patient. But now my mom knows that's a whole different road to hoe there, because now I'm gonna have to explain to her and her. I know I go there sometimes when we go. There's like a. There's like a big dining room. When you walk into these places, as they have. This is a cruise ship on land is basically what it is. And they have a dining room like every cruise ship does, and they get together for three times a day to sit at an assigned table, or not necessarily assigned tables, but they tend to.

[B]

They have their tables. Yeah, it's like high school table.

[A]

Yeah. They group together. And sometime my mom moves a lot because I think people get annoyed or she gets annoyed. She gets annoyed easy. So she moves from table to table. And so when we go over to my Mom's, she's got a very small apartment because she doesn't need a lot. And I don't like the kids, all 16 kids to be up there because they just cause drama. Oh yeah, my mom doesn't give a shit. I give a shit. There's just a lot of stuff up there that I don't need. She's got medication. There's like a lot of shit. That's not childhood friendly. And so when we get together, I often say let's do a meal. And she can rent the private dining room which is off the main dining room, just a lit. Imagine like your dining room at your house or we're at your grandma's house or your parents house. It's like a 15 foot by 10 foot room with a big table and you just sit there renting it means it's yours for the hour. Yeah, you reserved. And so my mom often reserves this and then we'll go over and there's plenty of chairs. Everyone can have fun, they can run around. But every time we go there, it's showtime at the Apollo. Because the kids are the youngest things these people have seen in like six days. And they're very excited by the youthfulness.

[B]

Oh yeah.

[A]

Of the whole situation. And I can understand that because I, I am excited by the youthfulness of the situation. Often. Sometimes too. The energy is infectious. The kids are cute. We often doll, you know, Astrid. I say we. Astrid dolls them up in nice clothing and they're presentable and they'll say hello and they'll twirl around. So they're like little. This entertainment for the, for the show they put on as we walk. Yes. As we walk the 150ft through the dining room where we have to be stopped by every person who think the kids are cute. And that's every person at every table except for a few ornery ones. You know, there's some more now. I would imagine that I'm going to get the side eye from everybody and we're going to be shunned like pariahs. We're going to be like lepers in Jesus's time, you know, just shunned. Shunned because most people my age don't like the commercial break. They think it's too much for them. Imagine what these 80 year olds are thinking. It's too much for them. They're not even going to understand half the words we're saying, let alone be okay with me talking about coming and pissing and jizzing. And I'm sorry if you're eating breakfast. I apologize.

[B]

I'm just gonna get all the three.

[A]

Days staying up for three. I mean, you know, there's probably a few whiz bangers in there that were like, yeah, I agree with you, Brian. But I would imagine most people are not that way. You know, those people are long since gone. Those people have died. They died in the 80s. So yet another place I have to go and explain myself. And that doesn't always feel good. Sometimes I do wish I had a normal job or I just didn't have to explain myself. I meet other dads and they're like, you know, yeah, I own a bike shop. Or, yeah, you know, I'm in the elevator business or whatever they do. And I'm like, oh, okay, that's great. Tell me more about it. So I can pretend like I do that next time I meet somebody, give me enough information so I can pretend.

[B]

The whole, like, summary of what that.

[A]

Yes, Chrissy, that's exactly what I want to do. I tell you what my dream job is. My dream job. Drew Carey's job.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Ryan C. Crest's job. Who's the Elizabeth Banks job? That's my dream job, honestly. Million dollars a year, plenty of money in my pocket, feed the kids. I don't know if I'll be able to send them to college for that, but, you know, I'll be able to feed them, house them, live comfortably, drive for a car with four wheels and a whole hood, you know, all the accoutrements that go along with being comfortable. It seems like we might need a million dollars a year just to live these days, but. And get to go into the studio, work, like, maybe 100 days a year. Maybe 100 days a year, knock out a couple episodes of Price is Right or whatever it is and mosey on with life. Because I guarantee, and I know this for a fact, that Drew Carey doesn't get harangued by Thrones of adoring fans. Have you ever seen anyone. Have you ever met anyone that's like, oh, my God, Drew Carey. I. If I could just meet Drew Carey.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

No. No one says that he's the guy from the Price is Right and that show that one time was popular.

[B]

Whose line is it anyway?

[A]

Whose line is it anyway? That's right. Very talented guy. Very. Seems very affable. I've met him. He has breakfast at the same diner every morning. I told you this. I met him at a diner. Mel's Diner, I think is what it's called. Up in the hills of you know, Hollywood Hills or whatever it is, he has breakfast, same breakfast every morning. At least he did back then. And this was just when he got the job with prices, right? And he was just super nice, super affable, reading his newspaper, very nice guy. There was no one, and I mean no one that was bothering the guy. You want to know why? Because he's the guy from the Price is Right and no one cares. Now I'm the guy from the commercial break and no one cares. But that seems like my perfect, perfect job because I'm in entertainment. I get to express that creativity. But they give me the cue cards. I just have to read it, inject a little bit of personality, meet some friendly faces and then be on with my day.

[B]

Family friendly. Not talking about jizz.

[A]

No, I mean if I could throw a jizz in there every once in a while, if we could get a, you know, if I could get a tit pic every once in a while in the commercial and the Price is Right, I would do that. But I don't have to. It's. I don't have to. If I had to go work for Disney and do one of those silly, you know, game shows, I do it. I look at that Ryan Seacrest and now he's got iheartradio wrapped into that, prices into that Wheel of Fortune. Oh, he's making probably 20 million bucks a year for all that he does.

[B]

Went far from a place here in.

[A]

Atlanta, little place here in Atlanta called Backstreet. If you know, you know, I K Y n T the D Y. No, I don't, I don't know that to be true. That's all rumor. It's all rumor and speculation from his ex boyfriend. So Ryan Seacrest, who's very talented by the way. I mean, you have to be, you have to be talented and smart and have your head on your shoulders to maneuver a 30 plus year career in the entertainment business from being like a local, you know, drive time DJ who wasn't particularly good at what he did. He parlayed that into an immense amount of success and money and empire. He now runs Dick Clark Productions. He owns it? I think so. He does the New Year's Eve, he does the radio show, he does American Idol. He does Wheel of Fortune. He was doing, remember like Kelly and Ryan for a while and remember during the pandemic, he had like a stroke or something on air, didn't he? Yeah, he had to take a couple days off. He called it exhaustion. Everyone else thought it was a stroke because it looked like A stroke, I.

[B]

Think he was involved with the Kardashian show.

[A]

He was the executive producer of the Kardashians. He brought it to E and he said, you got to put these people on tv. They're highly entertaining. And you know this one who just did the sex tape, she's got a whole family of sex tapes behind her. So you guys got to get on this. And so he's the genius, essentially. He's the genus and the genius behind the Kardashians, which, like them, don't like him. They are the most famous people on earth.

[B]

They really are.

[A]

And besides Taylor Swift and a couple of others, I mean, they're the most famous people on earth. And Ryan, I think, has a lot to do with that, or at least foretelling what was to come. He certainly had his finger on the pulse in that moment. He knew what the public wanted and he sold it to him. And it seems like at every turn, he kind of knows that. Now. Why is he doing Wheel of Fortune? I'm not sure. It seems like an odd move, but maybe he felt like, I want to be in people's living rooms every day in this family friendly way, which has always been his style. Like even in American Idol, he's never been particularly edgy. Even when he was a radio disc jockey on a plate on a radio station called Star 94, which is like light pop rock, like, nothing offensive, no hard rock, none of that top 40 hits, essentially.

[B]

Top 40 for sure.

[A]

He's always been family friendly. He's always gone that direction.

[B]

He looks good, he sounds good. You know, he's intelligent. He can read the cue card.

[A]

He can read. I can do that, too. Listen, he has multi platformed himself right into a billion dollar business. And I don't argue with it a bit. I say good for you, Ryan. He's dated some of the most beautiful women on earth. He was dating that girl from Dancing with the Stars.

[B]

Yeah, Juliana. Who?

[A]

Juliana Hough.

[B]

That's right.

[A]

Who, by the way, is one of the best smelling human beings I have ever met in my entire life. I met her at a New Year's Eve party and she was. You could smell her across the room. She smelled like, I don't know, a bundle of daisies wrapped in vanilla wrapped in really good smelling perfume. I mean, it was just amazing how good she smelled. But a beautiful woman also.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

Now she's doing Dancing with the Star. Now she's like one of the hosts of Dancing with the Star. But anyway, I digress. Back to Ryan. He's really done.

[B]

Done it well for himself.

[A]

I would absolutely take that career in a heartbeat. If I didn't have to work as hard. If I could do like, a tenth of what Ryan does and make the same money, I'm in. But otherwise, I decline the offer. I decline the job. I declined the job. I want to go Drew Carey's route. Drew doesn't need all the extra accoutrements. He doesn't need to be in a radio studio every morning. He doesn't feel like he has.

[B]

He's talking about mug warmers and incense holders.

[A]

That's it. Today. I was watching him. I know.

[B]

When I walked in the studio here. Yeah, it was on. And I thought it was funny because they were like, and how much does this mug warmer cost? And here's a handmade incense holder.

[A]

They have the shittiest prizes. I know they're like a new car from 2019, Hyundai Electronics. The Hyundai Electron has been discontinued, but it's new to you right now. How much does it cost? Pick the four numbers. 3, 5, 0, 0. That's correct. And you have to pay $7,000 in taxes to bring it home. I was watching him do a game, and it was like, you know, the lady was about to win a new car, which wasn't a particularly fancy car, but, okay, a car is a car. You win a car, and she has to pick the number. They give her the middle number. And then there's four other numbers, two and two. She has to pick the first two. She has to pick the last two. She gets four chances to do this, and she's picking a number. She's like, 75. And he's like, that's the year I graduated high school. Like, really mundane, innate conversation. That's not particularly funny, but not particularly offensive. He's using his improv skills to no good. But. But I will share that. This is the job. This is the way you want to go. Be that guy or Elizabeth Banks on. On no Whammies. What's that show? Press your luck. Press your luck. That's what I want to do. Press your luck. Wheel of fortune. Not Jeopardy. I'm not smart enough for that. I know those Jeopardy. People are really. They're pretty picky about who they want, you know, leading that charge. And Brian's not going to fit that bill. But any of those other ones where it's like dumb games that anybody can play, the everyman game, I would be, I think, an excellent candidate.

[B]

I think so, too. And talking about the prices. Right. I've always wanted to Spin that wheel.

[A]

Me too.

[B]

You know, and I wonder if when the camera's not rolling, people are, you know, hanging out late night, smoking weed.

[A]

Getting drunk and spinning the wheel, having contests. Yeah. Does it make that noise when you're not on tv? Yeah. Does someone have to flick a button to make that noise? I would be curious about all of it, what I listened to. Somebody was talking to Vanna White's brother, who briefly, briefly had a late night talk show in the 90s that he was trying.

[B]

He's briefly had a late night talk show.

[A]

So listen to this. He's trying to sell the show, right? And he is a coked out drunk. And he admitted this is something he said, not something. I'm assuming this is something he said. I had a problem with drugs, I had a problem with alcohol. And so he got some famous people to show up in his backyard. He built a set in his backyard. So it's outdoors. He's doing a monologue. I've never heard something less funny. Unless it was an episode of the Commercial Break. Never. Never. It sounds like our first three episodes. It's just terrible. Terrible. He's running around Hollywood trying to sell this like everybody was back in the 90s. Everyone wanted a talk show. So I through this thing, I was listening to this podcast I was listening to. I found a link on YouTube. I watched it. It's some of the worst television I've ever seen. And. But he was. But the. The host asked, and I can't remember which podcast this was. Right. Shouted out. The host asked the. Vanna White's brother, hey, did you ever. How many times you been to the set? 100. More than 100. He says, oh, probably 100. Maybe a little bit. To the Wheel of Fortune set.

[B]

Okay. Yeah.

[A]

How many times you spin the wheel? I never spun the wheel. He said, you never took a spin on the wheel? He's like, you know, honestly, I never thought about it. And it's like, isn't that the first thing you would think about doing? Right? You go to press your luck. You want to see a whammy, you want to hit that button, you go to Wheel of Fortune. You want to spin it. Just watching it, you can almost tell how heavy it is, how you would spin it, what manner.

[B]

But the way people. Other people are doing it.

[A]

Yeah. Just watching it, I have some spatial awareness about how I think I would spin those two wheels. The Price is Right Wheel. The Wheel of Fortune Wheel. But anyway, whatever. We're getting way off base here. Listen, today, Chrissy and I are on vacation. Meaning when you're listening to this, we are on vacation. So we are not talking about anything too timely or topical. We are just going to give you the goods. We had a nice young gentleman, and I mean young gentleman. He admits he's a kid. And I said, I don't want to get in trouble for texting a kid. So, you know, I hope you're at. So don't say anything that could get me in trouble.

[B]

He'll be on To Catch a Predator.

[A]

His name is Kylan. He had to tell me how to say it. I want to make sure I got it right. His name is Kylan. He texted and he said, hey, is this tcb? Let me, let me share with you the string of text. Yeah, it's a cool name. It says, is this commercial break? Anyway, if it is, I'm craving more mountain monsters, Frankie B. Or also more pickup artists. And I said, yeah, this is tcb. It's been almost nine months since Frankie did a video where I do more mountain monsters. I'll get you one out the door soon. And he says, this is Kylan. But it says my mom's name because it's my mom's account now. At first I thought, you know, it's 2025. There's a lot of 30 year olds who still using their mom's phone account. Right. I just, just. And, and no judgment there.

[B]

I just thought that's what it was into the plan.

[A]

That's right. But then he explains. I said, and he goes, you feel free to use my name if you want to on air. I said, yeah, of course I'll shout you out, but you got to give me some more information about you. What do you do? What you know, what's your thing? And he goes, well, does school count as a job? I'm just a kid. And I was like, hitmos. So I go automatically into dad mode. And I'm like, what did I say to him? I go, school's definitely your job. Get through at least high school. And then the world is your royster. You can do whatever you do. You do whatever you want. Choose your own adventure. Do I sound like your dad yet? I mean, I'm on like dad mode right now. So Kylan says, pick up artist, Mountain monsters or Frankie B. Well, there's no more Frankie B. I haven't found any new Frankie B. Information that we haven't already done. There's one or two videos out there. I'm keeping them in my back pocket for a rainy day. Mountain monsters. We just did.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But I have been saving something for just this occasion for. So when someone asks, can you do a pickup artist? And we'll get to it after this.

[B]

Sounds good.

[A]

You make this rather snappy, won't you?

[C]

I have some very heavy thinking to.

[A]

Do before 10 o'. Clock.

[D]

Hi cats and kittens. Rachel here. Do you ever get the urge to speak endlessly into the void like Brian? Well, I've got just the place for you to do that. 212-4333, TCB. That's 212-433-3822. Feel free to call and yell all you want. Tell Brian I need a raise. Compliment Chrissy's innate ability to put up with all his shenanigans or tell us a little story. The juicier the better. By the way, we'd love to hear your voice because Lord knows we're done listening to ourselves. Also give us a follow on your favorite socials at the commercial break on Insta TCB podcast on TikTok. And for those of you who like to watch. Oh, that came out wrong. We put all the episodes out on video, YouTube.com thecommercialbreak and tcbpodcast.com for all the info on the show, your free sticker or just to see how pretty we look. Ok, I gotta go now. I've got a date with my dog. No, seriously, Axel needs food. Today is pork chop day.

[A]

The 21 Convention has brought us some of our most illustrious content. Chrissy.

[B]

Oh, it's a wealth of douchebaggery.

[A]

It's a deep pool of douchebaggery. That's well said my friend. The 21 Convention is a short lived convention that would happen in Orlando every year to showcase the world's the best and the brightest. Yes, the smallest penises available to to the women in the general Orlando area. And you'd, if you were female, you'd probably want to be out of the Orlando area when the 21 convention was going on because it was just pickup artists. And then it turned maga. For a while there it seemed like all they wanted to do was promote this new version of masculinity. Fine, if you're into that, cool. But one of the guys who we've been following long, I think before we found 21 convention was Adam the Lion. Adam the Liar. Lions.

[B]

Well, we called him the Liar.

[A]

We called him the Liar.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Now he has reinvented himself many times. He's been an SEO expert, a social media expert, he's been a branding expert, he's been a pickup artist. He was a polyamory artist. He was sleeping with and he had throuple going on there for a while. He reinvented himself as a life coach. This is the opposite of whatever Ryan Seacrest did. Adam, I'm the liar.

[B]

He followed the opposite.

[A]

The opposite path. He decided to be as unfamily friendly and non consistent as possible. And you got to give the guy credit. At least he's trying. He's desperately trying to follow the trends. Usually three steps behind. Can't fault him for that. So is the commercial break. Yeah, but he's just one of these characters that you can't get enough of. I can't get enough of like Frankie B. Or Teresa Caputo. Adam has a soft spot in my heart because he is such a. An idiot. I mean honestly, that's the only way to say it. He's such an idiot. Adam, for the 21 convention, apparently years ago he had produced. I think this is a like a biopic produced and directed by Adam Lyons himself. And they posted it on the 21 Convention website years ago. This looks like it was made 10 or 15 years ago because Adam is. He just looks very young in this and his hair is pink and I don't even know. But this is not a documentary, despite what Adam may call it. It's not a document.

[B]

You can't film like the new Dylan documentary.

[A]

No, it's not like, like the new Dylan biopic starring Timothy Shalala. May. Adam here is a, I don't know, a student pickup artist. Use caution. He is trying to. You can't just film yourself and call a documentary. That doesn't make much sense. I was watching the Last Waltz last night. I couldn't. I couldn't sleep. As one of the best documentaries ever made, certainly the best music documentary, maybe the best music film ever made. But it was filmed by one of the best directors of all time and produced by Bill Graham and a bunch of others. This wasn't like the band got together and decided to film themselves and put it out, which they could have done. But you can't call that a documentary. Just call that I just filmed myself. You know what I'm saying? Anyway, I don't want to get into the minutiae of what we're calling it. I just want to hear what he has to say. Now I've watched very little of this. So we're going to go on this journey together.

[B]

Cold.

[A]

Yeah, cold. That's how I like to do it. Here at the commercial break, Raw Dog.

[C]

Adam Lyons, the community is afc. Adam, I have so many different ambitions and things that I want to be doing in life, and you have tried.

[A]

Them all, my friend. Yes, he is. Where are you a peacock? Is that. Is he a cockatoo? He's in a tropical location somewhere. Probably the villages in Florida where Chrissy and I are gonna retire.

[B]

Yeah. There's a palm tree in the background.

[A]

Yeah. Doesn't that look like Margaritaville to you?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You've been.

[B]

I have not.

[A]

It looks like a Margaritaville, but he fits right in with that cockatoo hair.

[B]

Yeah, it's jet black, but then with a splash of spiky pink.

[A]

Imagine cockatoo red.

[B]

Well, actually, I can see it in the back of his head, too. Look at the back of his nape of his neck.

[A]

Oh, yeah, it goes.

[B]

It must go all the way.

[A]

That's right. He's peacocking around. He's peacocking around the vox.

[B]

A pink mohawky thing.

[A]

That's what they do. That's what mystery talk. You got to get out there and show your colors. That's right.

[C]

Beyond just pickup and stuff like that, I'm known as being a geek. And not only was I always a geek, I still am a massive geek. So some of the things I went.

[A]

Well, you didn't. You didn't have to say that out. You have to say it out loud. But okay.

[C]

Obviously I want to make an independent horror film. Start off with maybe a small film there. But I've also got.

[A]

Oh, I think he's made plenty of them. I think they're all over the Internet. I think he's accomplished that goal, like how to pick up a woman in 10 minutes or less.

[C]

I've started sword fighting again. So I've been doing.

[A]

Oh, I bet you've been sword fighting for a long time, Adam.

[C]

Actually, my live action role playing, where you, like, dress up in costume and sword fight people. I've been doing that again, and I'm looking to maybe put on some kind of small event like that. And, yeah, I'm just following the road, see where it takes me.

[A]

There's like, there's title cards in between sections here. And this one is like a duck to water.

[C]

The big thing that got me into the community was I realized that one of the goals I was kind of dating. I'd had four relationships prior to learning game.

[A]

One of the relationships.

[B]

You're learning game.

[A]

Once I learned game, I turned into a Jedi Master of. A Jedi Master of pink cockatoo hair and role playing. Nothing says fuck me like Being in a park, dressed up like a medieval.

[C]

Swordsmanship'S the last one that I was in. I found out that not only had she been seeing whole bunch of guys behind my back, but when I confronted her with it and we broke up, she ended up stealing all of the belongings from my house. My PlayStation, my PC, my, you know, my, my. My video games. Absolutely everything she could take, she did, leaving my house completely barren. I think I've still got the photograph.

[A]

Somewhere of the photographs. You have photographs of your empty apartment?

[B]

Police purposes?

[A]

Yeah, sure, why not?

[C]

She kind of left my room and about six months earlier, one of my friends had handed me this book called the Game. And, and he said to me, he said, adam, this book is designed for you. He said, you don't realize it yet. He goes, but you were supposed to do this. He goes, I know when you do this, you're going to take to it like a duck to water. And I kind of threw it on a back shelf and ignored it.

[A]

That kind of reminds me of that scene in the Matrix where he goes to the oracle and they ask him, like he's guided to the oracle. You must go talk to the oracle.

[B]

Yeah, you were meant to do that.

[A]

Every good Genesis story of some of the most. Some of the people who changed our world starts with an oracle. There's someone who just sees something in you that you don't see in yourself. Like my wife. Shut up and do it on a microphone.

[C]

But it was one of the things she didn't take. And so I sort of open up the book.

[A]

That's the one thing she didn't.

[B]

The book, the game.

[C]

I can't imagine why sign up on a course. And that was the start.

[B]

I'm picturing him just like rolling around like a empty. You know, like when you go first, move into an apartment, it's empty.

[A]

Yeah. And you sleep on the floor, maybe while you're waiting for the bed.

[B]

Yeah, it's just carpeted. And he's got this book.

[A]

Yeah. I imagine like Takis empty bags and Mountain Dew soda cans all around. There's the game staring at him. In the movie, whoever plays him, it's got to. You know, I would imagine Ryan Felipe or Tom Timothee Chalamet or whoever. I can see, like he's in this scene where it's all dark and he's crying.

[B]

Zel gives him the book.

[A]

Dunn Denzel gives him the book. You were meant to do this. Don't fret, bro. Read it. Neil Strauss, the famous composer.

[C]

Neil Strauss is obviously a Big inspiration.

[A]

Oh, no. The pickup artist, Neil Strauss. Okay.

[C]

I got it to me because of reading the game, and he was kind of like my first Supposed to look into the community, but I actually got to meet Neil Strauss quite soon afterwards, which was really great. I mean, he's a really nice guy, really genuine, and I suppose he made me realize that a lot of the misconceptions.

[A]

Look at all these people walking behind him. I'm wondering if they know.

[B]

Strange setup here.

[A]

I think they're at a mall in Florida. But I wonder if they know how close to greatness they are. If you've been somewhere and then later on you see pictures, like at a concert or. I don't know. You've never been to Disney World, but, like, Disney World. Oh, you have? Yeah. Oh, I thought you'd never been.

[B]

No, I've been once.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[B]

Not twice.

[A]

There's a couple times I've been to Disney World, and then I'll be in one of those, you know, Disney adult groups for people like me who have mental problems. And then. And then they'll be like, oh, did you see so and so on this particular day, and it happens a famous person was there when I was there. But how would I have known?

[B]

Like, Obama passing in the background of that. Those people's pictures.

[A]

Yes. Eddie Vedder in my dad's Chicago picture. Yeah, stuff like that. I wonder if they know how close they are to greatness.

[C]

About. Some of the top pickup artists were actually a lot of hearsay, and a lot of it didn't hold true because when I met Neil in person, he was very different to the kind of image that I had kind of been led to perceive by the majority of the people in the community.

[A]

So what do you. So I don't understand that. Okay, here's the next title card.

[B]

You're just saying how great it was to meet Neil.

[A]

Neil's great. Okay, Journey through the Game. Here's our next title card. Here's our next PowerPoint slide.

[C]

With regards to my own Journey through the Game, there was definitely mixed sort like good points about meeting some of the top gurus and definitely some negative sides. I had a lot of conceptions that Negative.

[A]

I never seemed to get laid when they were around. Positive. I got a free book.

[C]

Some of these pickup guys were absolutely untouchable. They could do whatever they wanted when it came to women. And some of my aspirations to kind of like to maybe be as good as Neil Strauss and be able to get any woman I want. When I actually met him, I realized Actually, he's very down to earth. You know, he's kind of hit and miss, kind of just like everybody else, but still a very cool, fun, down to earth guy who, who wasn't, you know, too proud of himself or too up his own rectum, should we say. Whereas.

[A]

So what you're saying is it's all bullshit. That's what you're saying.

[C]

Some other people that I met who not only weren't as good as they were trying to prove that they were, but they actually were kind of trying to force that idea on people that they were amazing, that they really could pick up absolutely everybody they wanted. It was a shame, because if they just accepted they could fail sometimes, it might make it a lot easier to maybe relate to them and to believe half the things they were saying.

[A]

Hmm, interesting. Lowest point in his journey is the next title fight.

[C]

Low point for me in my journey in the game was actually probably the point where everybody else was looking up to me the most. It was the point where I had.

[A]

It was the point where I was most famous. Chrissy high on cocaine in this Caesar's palace presidential suite. Bottles of champagne, tits flying from one end of the room to the other, literally. Vagina raining from the sky. And I looked, and there was that book staring back at me, the Game. And I said, I've got to read it again.

[B]

I gotta get back to my roots.

[A]

Yeah, I gotta get back to my roots. I've strayed too far. Neil Strauss once said, it's all bullshit, kid. And then the hookah bill came.

[C]

14 different girlfriends.

[A]

14 different girlfriends. He just said he hates when his pickup artist guru, the people he looked up to make it sound like they're all that. And now he's doing it himself. 14. Give me a break.

[C]

Some of the most beautiful women throwing themselves at me. I would walk into a night.

[B]

What is.

[A]

It's Peacock Adams. Get him.

[B]

He's about to say, I walk into a nightclub.

[A]

I walk into a nightclub and literally can't move without my boner being licked.

[C]

Club in London. 250 girls are walking the door with me. I, I literally.

[B]

Now, this is where he. We gave. Around the time when we gave him the liar.

[A]

Here comes the liar. Here comes the liar part of Adam. I was almost.

[B]

Club in London.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

I'm walking in with 250 girls.

[A]

I've been to 14 London. I don't know how many clubs in London fit 250 people, let alone you and 250 girls. I was almost. I was almost thinking like, oh, Adam, you know, he can, yeah. Without all the hype and hyperbole. He can. No, no. Didn't work.

[C]

Probably at the top of my game and I realized I wasn't happy. I was unfulfilled. I didn't enjoy life. I realized I didn't have to work for anything. Women would just throw themselves at me. I was at the lowest point of self motivation in my life. I had guys that wanted to be like me and I was actually looking at being like, why do you want this? This isn't fun. This isn't.

[A]

This isn't fun. All this woman, all this sex, all these drugs. I don't have to work for anything. I'm a millionaire. Just thinking about it, I don't understand why you want to be like me. I, I am going to work at McDonald's tomorrow and I will not have a date on Friday back. I'm a man of the people happy.

[C]

And the turning point for that, for me that the point where suddenly everything became happy and enjoyable was really when I realized that I wanted just one girl and I wanted to settle down. And I think anybody that.

[B]

Boiling.

[C]

They really do just want a whole bunch of different random girls that I don't think they've really experienced the pinnacle of that. Because when you really have that, when.

[A]

You really have a pinnacle of pussy, Chrissy, I don't think you've realized the pinnacle of poo tang. If you realize the pinnacle of poo tang, like I have like having 380,000 women in your bed at one time, then you realize it really doesn't make you happy to have so many beautiful naked women around you when you're unfulfilling heterosexual, single male.

[C]

It's unfulfilling Chrissy lifestyle where women are throwing themselves at you. Johnny Wolf from the P Way summit.

[A]

How many times can you put in the words women throwing themselves at you in one segment of your own documentary?

[B]

He just mentioned somebody with the Peeway summit.

[A]

Oh yeah, the Peeway summit. Yeah. It's all the rage with the peace.

[C]

To see how true this was. And I've got a testimonial where he saw me throwing women out of my bedroom who are begging to come in there to have sex.

[B]

He's got a testimony.

[A]

Oh my God. I've got a testimonial from a guy who saw women getting kicked out of my bedroom who were trying to have sex with me at the good old Pee Way summit. The summit no one heard of or is gone to.

[B]

I have a testimonial.

[A]

Oh, the P Wave Summit.

[C]

And that was the lifestyle I was living, and it wasn't fulfilling.

[A]

Oh, and then David d' Angelo came in. David d'. Angelo. Here's the oracle coming back into his life.

[C]

David d' Angelo was a guy whose name I'd heard mentioned a lot throughout my journeys in the community. But I'd never actually bought any of his products or read anything of his. And it was only actually quite recently. Although I was kind of familiar with some of his concepts, like cocky funny. It was only very recently that I actually.

[A]

Cocky, funny. Cocky, funny.

[B]

The concept of cocky funny.

[A]

The concept of dyeing your hair pink, going to the p wave, and cock a doodle doo ing your wave all the way through. Get out of my bedroom. Beautiful naked women. I don't want you.

[C]

Yeah. Got to find out more.

[A]

Hey, take notes. I want a testimonial later.

[B]

You see what's happening here?

[A]

Where are those pictures of my empty bedroom?

[C]

About him when he interviewed me for his interview series, and I got a call from some of the people in his camp saying, hey, David d' Angelo would like to interview you. And I can't spin him firsthand.

[A]

I don't even have a camp. Where's a camp? I hate when people say that. I know some people in my camp. We're gonna get back to you. Oh, really? Some people in your camp? I've been to an actual camp. It's no fun.

[C]

And the guy's an absolute genius. I mean, not just what he knows about pickup, but what he knows about life in general and about business and marketing. He's a very genuine individual, and I learned a lot just from a half hour phone call.

[A]

I've met so many genuine people who know a lot about business and marketing.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

And pick up artist three. Those three combinations say sincere and real. Them. Negative outlook of the community.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

There are definitely some people out there that have a negative outlook on the community.

[A]

You don't say.

[D]

Right.

[A]

I wonder why.

[B]

I can't imagine why.

[A]

I can't imagine why. You just said you walked into a club with 250 women, kicked a bunch of naked girls out of your bedroom because you didn't want to have sex with them. That wasn't fulfilling. And you're expecting people to look on this and go, he's such a redeemed guy. This is. This is worse than Carl Lentz. I'm sorry.

[C]

And I think that anytime I've ever come across that, it's usually the person doesn't actually fully understand what the community is for me specifically. And I Think really that's what the community is. It's always a personal choice of how you view it. I've always viewed the community as a male self help group. It's a bunch of guys that are firstly admitting they have a problem and they can't meet girls and secondly, they're willing to do whatever it takes to get. And yeah, different people have.

[A]

It's like aap, it's, it's pap Pussy Anonymous.

[C]

Different journeys. Some it's maybe a bit more aggressive. Some it may not be a pleasant experience. But I think on the whole for most it's a really good positive experience that they come out the other side of it with a better understanding of women.

[B]

And a bunch of books.

[A]

And a bunch of books and a bunch of credit card bills and a bunch of monthly subscriptions and a bunch of phone calls with John Anthony Lifestyle.

[C]

I think one of the underway.

[A]

Underground.

[B]

Yeah, underground.

[A]

Now we're getting into the good stuff. This is secret stuff. They won't tell you anywhere else. Kids, get out your pencils. You're gonna need to write a testimonial later.

[C]

The community is taboo or is seen as being secretive and underground and maybe a little bit manipulative is specifically because us guys are kind of scared of letting the girls know what we're doing. There are so many people that hide behind false names, hide behind, you know, online stories, whereas in reality you can kind of come out and tell the truth. I mean, Cosmopolitan and fhm, they're full of true life stories. Things that have actually happened to me. There's nothing wrong with accepting.

[A]

Oh, Cosmopolitan is full of true life stories about you. I did not know this. I did not know he was in Cosmo. Oh, okay. Yep. Probably not in the good part of Cosmo. Fhm, the now defunct girly mag.

[C]

One of my biggest signs for whether a guy actually is comfortable with what they're doing and in my opinion really should be giving out and giving this advice is based on how comfortable they are. A, being seen by people to be doing what they're doing and B being comfortable with their name being put to it.

[A]

Well, I, I can understand that one.

[C]

Everybody knows me. I'm out in the open. I've made mistakes. I've done some things that are amazing, but I've done all of it open. Everyone found out about my, my girlfriend before I got with her. I told him what I was going to do. I told him before I was going to.

[A]

How did they find out about your girlfriend before you even got with her?

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

I don't know. It's an amazing story, Adam, you're telling right now. This takes lying to a whole new level, by the way, post.

[C]

They've seen the whole thing. They sort out there on the.

[B]

This guy just walked behind us.

[A]

Like some dude just photopiled big time. He just walked directly behind him. I'm not saying like 10ft behind him.

[B]

No, like right behind him.

[A]

He is behind him. Yeah. Adam doesn't miss a beat.

[C]

It could have gone wrong. Maybe sight would have happened. Would my name have been ruined? Who knows?

[B]

But that's really funny.

[A]

It's awesome.

[C]

Point is, I was brave enough to stand by it and do it.

[A]

Brave enough to stand behind what? I'm getting a girlfriend. I need to know more about that. Speaking the truth, that's a hard one for Adam.

[C]

One of the biggest reasons that I think I've been so successful is this is not only have I been really open and told everyone what's going on, but I've also tried my best to be as truthful as possible.

[A]

Uh huh huh.

[B]

You might need to try harder.

[A]

Yeah, I think you got a skewed definition of what the truth is.

[C]

Literally, even if it completely pains me, come out there and try and speak the complete truth. What I love is so many people don't even believe it. They're like, there's no way that Adam can just come out and tell the truth. And yet I do.

[B]

We're in that camp.

[A]

We're in that camp. Have your camp.

[B]

There's no way Adam can speak the.

[A]

Truth, by the way. Wow, this is something right out of the DJT playbook. If they don't believe you, they just don't believe you have the ability to tell the truth. They in fact are just not understanding that you are being so truthful. It doesn't sound like the truth.

[C]

And I find that's the only way to be completely congruent is to not only be open, but to also be truthful. And that way you can people see you for who you are and then you only get judged accordingly.

[A]

Oh, we see you for who you are, Adam.

[B]

Turning point.

[A]

Ah, there's a turning point in every story.

[C]

From my personal point of view with regards to where I sit in the community. I've always associated myself as a pickup artist because I wanted to go out there and I wanted to pick up chicks and end up dating them. Up until the point I got married. The point I got married was a definite turnover.

[A]

Wait, what? I didn't know you were married. Yeah.

[B]

I think it lasted.

[A]

Yeah, no, I don't think it did either. I wonder why.

[C]

No longer a type of artist. I mean, it's great that I still get, you know, perceived as one. And there's no way I'm leaving the community. I'm going to keep helping guys out as much as possible, but, you know, I'm not out there to pick up chicks. And as much as I'm going to help other people do that, I kind of see myself as somebody who trains other people to be pickup artists rather than being a pickup artist myself. And I'm definitely starting to identify more with being a dating coach and looking at helping people with things beyond just picking up things. How to handle a date.

[A]

I'm definitely looking for my next grift. This one's getting a little boring. And now that I'm married, guys don't want to talk to me. I think after you get married, being a pickup artist is probably not something you can do, like, I don't know, for many reasons. That's like eating with a skinny chef. You know what I'm saying? Like, you just, you just don't do it.

[C]

How to handle a relationship. Things that I genuinely feel that I'm starting to gain a much stronger experience based on than a lot of other pickup artists who kind of meet a girl, move on to the next girl and concentrate on things like, you know, instant lays and how to have one night stands. For me, it's more instant lays.

[A]

They call it ILS in the community. Chrissy, you gotta get in there and get a bunch of ils Instantly. IO baby. Oh, yeah. Oh, yes. In instantly. That means you walk into the bar, instantly laid. Boom. Vagina dick meat. Boom. Explosions everywhere. Clean up aisle three and you're out. 249 left to go. You know what I'm saying, Chrissy?

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Thank you.

[C]

You prolong that. How can you ideally meet the person you want to be with and stay with them forever?

[A]

No, I don't know. I don't know. But maybe he'll explain it to us in the next segment. Let's take a break and we'll be back.

[D]

Let me do something Brian has never done.

[A]

Be brief.

[D]

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[A]

All right, we just learned that Adam is in fact or was in fact married for a brief period of time, 2009-2013, longer than my first marriage. But anyway. All right, all right, settle down. Teaching relationships. Our next title card here.

[C]

Two years ago, there is absolutely no way that I would have considered myself as somebody qualified enough to teach relationships. I purposely haven't. Even though I was dating at the time, I wanted to make sure that I was coming down it with a point of authority. I don't think you can talk about relationships until you've been married and seen it right through to the. To the end.

[B]

Foreshadowing.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

Well, you took it to the end. It ended. It ended. Four short years later, you're in my marriage.

[C]

I'm still not in a position. You're not going to find me coming out of any kind of marriage product anytime soon. I want the experience and the wealth.

[A]

Of knowledge before marriage product. The perfect woman.

[C]

It's really hard for me to work out whether my personal journey through this and coming to the conclusion of one perfect woman being for me is what everybody wants. But I truthfully believe that for me, for my own journey from somebody who did have that. And people have seen my journey. They've seen the phases where I didn't have any girls in my life. They've seen me learn, they've seen me go through it. It's been documented how I went from somebody who wanted to get a lot of girls to somebody who succeeded. I ran project entourage.com one of the largest club hosting companies in London.

[A]

Humble bragging all the way to success.

[B]

Project Entourage.

[A]

Project Entourage. Chrissy. It's been well documented my journey to pussy success. Anybody who documents their journey to pickup artist success is just might have something wrong with them. I don't know. I mean, I'm not saying everybody is the same and I'm not saying all quote unquote dating coaches, which is a big word that includes a lot of different types of men and women. I'm not saying all of them are bad. Sometimes maybe you feel like you need somebody to give you a pep talk or something like that. But this guy, no way.

[C]

I had those women in my life. They're still on my Facebook.

[A]

Check out my facebook adamlions.com I achieved.

[C]

That and I know that for me specifically, I definitely wanted that one. I speculate, I hypothesize that that's the same for every other guy. But unfortunately this is a case study of just one guy. And from there I can't judge any further than that.

[A]

Thanks for bringing that clear. You're so scientific in your methods, Adam. So scientific.

[B]

Yeah. I mean he really is just answering his own questions. There's nobody asking him.

[A]

No, no one's asking him this. He, he, these title cards were made backwards. He came up his own questions, he's giving his own answers. This is all just spoon fed at.

[B]

A mall in Florida.

[A]

Yeah. At a. At an outdoor mall in Florida where he's just giving himself a reason to humble brag about all the stuff he's done. The feminization of America. Here we go. Here we go. I'm going to hate on the women. I so desperately need to people who.

[C]

View that perhaps the male population of the world is. Has become feminized and we've allowed that women to kind of like take over. I really just see that as part of the balance in the sexes. I think that we definitely lived in a very male patriarchal society where males are very much dominating things. And I think that now as we.

[A]

Wait, wait, Chrissy, might we agree with something Adam has to say?

[C]

But to reintroduce that balance, I think guys don't really know.

[A]

Wait for it. He's going to. He's going to it up somehow. Yeah.

[C]

I think they've never really known how to maintain a balance because they've always used to being in a position of power. And I think that's definitely created some sort of imbalance. And I do think that the community is a splinter off that's kind of evolved from that need for men to realize how to maintain that balance. Yeah.

[B]

Straight off in the 21 Convention.

[A]

Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Somehow 21 Convention was the way we splintered off.

[C]

When you learn pickup artistry, when you get good at it, really all you do is become a little bit more female with this.

[A]

Okay, all right. Not sure how that works.

[B]

Maybe in the woman's shoes.

[A]

Maybe. But I don't think I agree with that particular statement. But okay, I was with you all the way up until.

[C]

There's a balance that's happened with us trying to maintain a balance between the sexes. There's now become an imbalance specifically in men and also in women in how people should behave, what our roles should be. And I think what we're going to see is a consistent change and there'll be some kind of equilibrium that sets and that will constantly be at battle. I mean at the end of the day, the war between the sexes is one that will never end, hopefully. Because if it ever does, that will mean the, you know, the loss for all of us.

[A]

I don't even understand what that means.

[B]

No.

[A]

Ah, War ends, we all lose. You know what I'm saying, Chrissy?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean, yeah, we're to fight each.

[B]

Other to the death and then there's a war and then we lose.

[A]

Snake charmers.

[B]

That's. That's.

[A]

Snake charmers.

[C]

There were definitely a bunch of people when they first started the community that were seen as snake charmers. There were definitely people that I believe don't have the skill to pull off what they've got. I'm not the kind of person that goes around and drops names on people, but I can say I know for a fact.

[B]

Oh, yeah, you're not dropping any kind of.

[A]

No, no, no, no, no. Yeah, you're not dropping any kind. You're not one to humble brag. You're not one to say anything too ostentatious out loud. Just say the names, Adam, so that we can find their videos.

[C]

Some guys that are charging $3,000 for a course, sometimes even more.

[A]

Michael Anthony lifestyle. John Anthony lifestyle. Sorry.

[C]

Had sex themselves with less than 10 girls. People that come to me and say, adam, how do you do it? How do you maintain a relationship? Every girl I ever get just breaks up with me, and all I want to do is settle down with one. And then they then go out and preach how it's important to have multiple girls and you shouldn't just stick with one. And it pains me. It pains me to hear it. And I know there are people that would love me to come out and point the finger at those people, but unfortunately, if I do that, they're only going to point one right back and try and make up falsehoods. Because if they're happy to lie about how great they are, they're going to be happy to lie at how bad other people are. So I've got this whole philosophy. It comes from my game and comes from everything. I try and add value to as many people as possible. And I'm going to go out there and I'm going to help as many people as I.

[A]

By adding value. I mean, dropping seed in your uterus. Oh, yeah.

[C]

Literally, person by person. I'm gonna prove that this does work.

[A]

Literally, woman by woman. I'm on a mission to seed the entire world. Literally, literally.

[C]

And that we can help people.

[B]

We can help people.

[A]

Oh, we can help. Oh, my God. Mother Teresa. Let go of the old chicks, get the new chicks.

[C]

The only thing that's ever pissed me off about the community, the only thing that's really got under my skin is a lot of the old issues being drug across to the current things. When we first started doing our boot camps, I first started running them. I was running them back in 2006. My early boot camps were nowhere near the quality that they are now. My boot camps in 2008 are completely different to how they are in 2009. I'm constantly evolving and changing.

[A]

So three short years later, the quality has improved.

[C]

10X Chrissy and I'm seeing that in my students results in the testimonials that I'm getting. We're getting more and more people with success. I think the one thing that pisses me off is as soon as somebody has one bad experience from the past, they definitely try and translate that. So if they do a really bad boot camp with one of our competitors, they'll suddenly assume that all future boot camps with everybody else, whether they've done one or not, is bad.

[A]

And even if they boot camps. Bump that penis. Pump that penis. Thrust, thrust, thrust. Peacock. Peacock. Peacock.

[B]

One, two, one.

[A]

Lean against the wall. Stare her up and down. Don't talk, no words. She'll come to you, soldier. Put that boner down. Not yet. More. Peacock. Peacock. Peacock. Get her into your room. Low lighting, loud music. Let's go, let's go, let's go. You're getting late this weekend. Yes, sir. I can hear you instantly. I don't know what they may say. I don't know what they may say. Going for nothing but an instant lay. Sound off. Hard dick. Sound off.

[C]

Peacock had perhaps a less than perfect experience with myself then. They aren't willing to come again.

[B]

I'm trying to think about this because we have reviewed so many of these. Adam was. Adam, the one was. He was like in his apartment.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

He was talking about the girl, the.

[A]

Low lighting he had sex with. And then he was the one who told us how he brought home a girl and he had the lighting he like flipped on. He had a light setting that was setting the mood. And a playlist. He definitely had a playlist for getting laid. And it was like a two hour cab ride or something. Yeah. I don't know.

[C]

Went completely for free to see the improvements that have happened. I know as anti's done with the 21 convention with regards to renaming it and rebranding it and going about changing things, we're constantly doing that with our own boot Camps. The results we're getting now are better than ever. And, you know, I just wish sometimes I could go out.

[A]

So this is basically a sales pitch for his boot camps. He has a lot of bad press out there and he's trying to tell you that it's other people's boot camps, not my boot camps. Right.

[C]

People that think that it doesn't work, drag them out there, give them a completely freebie and just show them how much difference we can really make to people.

[A]

He's got that used car salesperson smile. At the end of everything he says politics and money.

[C]

Oh, there is definitely political siding and conflict. And so like a background subterfuge that goes on around the community with the corporates definitely trying to. To take things themselves to generate as much profit as possible.

[A]

Which corporations are in on the Pickup artist business? 21 convention. The people you're doing the video for right now.

[C]

However, I think you're going to find that in any industry, anywhere in the world. I've worked in public relations, I've worked in marketing, I've worked in the movie industry, worked in television and all of these places.

[A]

The movie industry, the porn movie industry. Which movie industry?

[C]

This had their own different political intrigue that was going on. It's just what happens when you mix money.

[A]

The different branches of the community.

[C]

I genuinely feel that the community itself has always had a number of different branches. There's definitely been people that are very much more about improving your life, improving your lifestyle and trying to help you with that side of things. And there are definitely those that are always going to be talking about magic tricks and routines and kind of like the, the number one line that's going to guarantee to get any girl to want you.

[A]

Mystery. Notice the guy in the background waving. Yeah, yeah. 70 year old. He wants to get in. He sees Adam. He's like, I took your course last.

[C]

Week and I think that's just how it is. It splinters in different ways. We're always going to see that separation. There'll be new types of pickup methodology that we can't even imagine right now. I heard there's a guy who's specializing in Halloween game.

[A]

Everyone's creating their own different riches in the niches. That's right. Halloween game. Take my course. That only works one night a year. Put on a mask. Halloween game. I have to know now. I have to know where. Where can we find the Halloween game video? I want to know.

[C]

He's within.

[A]

It.

[B]

Works one night a year.

[A]

Put on a mask. Put on a mask. Pretend you're not you. Oh, Independent versus corporate. Uh oh. Here's where it all falls apart. It's always a Walmart of pickup artists coming in to squash the little guy.

[D]

That's right.

[A]

The mom and pop pussy game gets squashed by big pussy. Big pussy edging in a big Laura. Yeah.

[C]

A lot of different, different types of guys within the community. I've seen the core big companies. I've seen a lot of the independent movement within London. When I first started coming out to it, I was one of the independents. I was one of the first guys that came out of it from my honest experience.

[A]

I rose up through the independent ladder like Alanson chains in the early days of Seattle grunge rock scene. He was one of the first. He was one of the first independents. No selling out here, bro. You won't. You won't find any John Anthony lifestyle banners at my boot camp. No siree Bob. Stay free.

[C]

The independent guys have a shelf life. There's only so long they can maintain it because there is so much bulk of work that has to be done.

[A]

I think that's true of any guy. There's only so long we can maintain it. You know what I mean? You know what I mean?

[C]

That eventually starts to wear on you. You need to kind of take that relaxed lifestyle. I know some of them have managed to survive that by living certain times sort of parts of the year in a different part of the world. That's a lot cheaper to live, coming into more affluent areas and using that to help them survive. I know some of my good friends do that by living in Thailand and working in Los Angeles. But I think in reality, if you're looking at this career, if you're looking at long term, you need that infrastructure. You do need support of a big company. It was definitely a decision that I came to after being an independent for a good couple of years. Having a big company behind you.

[A]

Wait, who, what big company is supporting Pickup Arts? I think he means the 21 convention.

[B]

I think so too.

[A]

I think that's.

[B]

Yeah. And I guess people that maybe take. He's talking about infrastructure. I mean, I guess people that take the calls and book the.

[A]

Book the appointments. Yeah. Lead you to the right dating coach, quote unquote. I mean, they're really the apple of the pickup artist community if you're going to survive in this community. I just find it sad that people have to live in Thailand all year long on the beach and then come to Los Angeles to teach me how to pick up women on Halloween one Night only. I specialize in the Easter game. Hop around like a bunny.

[C]

Definitely helps, if only with advertising, marketing, and having a receptionist to answer emails. There's definitely a tipping point where you can only have so much success without bothering to set up the infrastructure. And everyone's seen it. When you're an independent, when you start making that much money, when you start growing, you have to set the infrastructure up and become a corporate. And if you don't, what happens is you end up with upset clients.

[A]

Everyone's seen it. Everyone knows about that tipping point. When you've got too much patootie tang to deal with money, and money, it's literally flowing out of your ears and.

[C]

Your name ends up falling apart. And you see the rise of the fall of these independents all the time. The average independent lasts maybe a year or two years before everything starts.

[A]

How do you know that? Where are those stats? The average independent, one year, acting like this is like some well worn industry. Very much the wild west, as far as I can tell. I don't know because I'm not a dating coach or a pickup artist or.

[B]

Whatever or in the market.

[A]

Yeah, but it seems like, put your videos on YouTube, hope that people call your phone number and order your course. And if they do, you'll make money. And if they don't, you won't. And he's right about one thing. Any small business has its toils and troubles. And you know, as an independent podcast, you, you know, it's like you have your ups, you have your downs, you go with a network because they have the people who can sell your business. Right. I mean, and I get what he's saying, but I just don't see the pickup artist business being that big that it would sustain. Big corporate. When he's saying big corporate, he really makes it sound like there's a Walmart of pickup artists out there.

[C]

Unless they set up an infrastructure and then what happens is you just have a new corporate setup. I think Micha was a great example of that. He was an independent that splintered off and then he went corporate. He had to, because in order to sustain.

[A]

I'm not even gonna go there. I'm just gonna leave that one.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Kind of size that he was getting. He needed the corporate infrastructure to keep it alive.

[A]

Okay, one more ever changing community.

[C]

I personally feel that the community is an ever changing construct and I don't think it's.

[A]

It's a living organism, Chrissy.

[C]

It breathes on its own, good or bad. I think that realistically the community is always Going to change. It'll have its ups. There'll be media stories where we're portrayed in a bad light, and then every so often, you'll have it where it goes the other way completely.

[A]

No, no. Never seen it.

[B]

No.

[A]

Never seen public sentiment moving toward. Well, there was that time that VH1 had mystery. Had his own show.

[B]

That's right.

[A]

But that was the whiz bang 90s, when a lot of things were different. We do dating shows from the 90s, 90s all the time. Things were just different back then. I think pickup artists generally are seen in a negative light because of the things that they say. Not because they're victims of their own success, but because they're victims of their own dumb ideology gifts.

[C]

And suddenly, the pickup community will be dating coaches helping out the poor guy who's a virgin. It's always going to shift around. It's always going to be moved around. And realistically, the media are going to control how people sit it. At the end of the day, I try and do things one student at a time, helping as many people as I can.

[A]

One hard at a time. Chrissy.

[B]

One lonely virgin at a time.

[A]

Boner at a time. All right.

[B]

Oh, Adam.

[A]

Oh, Adam. There's like 10 more minutes to go, but I don't think I can hear Adam talk anymore.

[B]

He needs himself.

[A]

No, not to himself. His own soliloquy about himself and all the wonderful things he's done. But how? He's a change man now. And look at that dumb grin on his face. Look at that dumb grin on his face. He really does look like a clown. Oh, man. Oh. We already have had feedback about the 12 hours of TCB, and some people are questioning our sanity.

[B]

Yes, so are we.

[A]

Yes, we are. No doubt about it. But.

[B]

But it is mental health awareness.

[A]

So we're gonna put our cars to the test. We'll see how it goes. We'll share more about the minutia. But don't worry about us. We've set this up in a way that I think we're gonna be okay. 12 hours of TCB May 31st. That's a Saturday, so if you choose to keep up with it, you can. And I don't think there's any major sporting events. I don't know, but I checked, and it doesn't look like it.

[B]

It's the weekend after.

[A]

It's baseball weekend after Memorial Day. That's right. So have your fun. And then, you know, get some popcorn. Get some popcorn. Put your earmuffs on, kids. 12 hours of TCB starting at 10am to 10pm we'll be releasing an episode every hour on the hour or as close to it as I can possibly edit. And then we will be doing also live recording too, meaning we'll record and you'll be able to tune in and watch us record. So you'll be able to hear it just a little bit early. Lots more details on that. In coordination with our good friends at Central Talent Booking, Odyssey Covert Creative, we plash design and video production firm and quite frankly us the commercial break. So there you go, Brian and Chris. Okay, so lots more information coming up about that stuff. Stay tuned. Next week, you want to be on the commercial break, call us 212-4333 TCB 212-4333 TCB between the hours of 12 and 2:30pm Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday, 15, 16, 17th or 14th 15th 16th. Call us and we may answer the phone at the commercial break on Instagram YouTube.com the commercial break for all of the episodes the same day they air here on the audio feed, tcbpodcast.com your free sticker and all the audio and video. Okay, Chrissy, that's all I can do for now.

[B]

I think so.

[A]

But I'll tell you that I love you. Best you and best you out there in the podcast universe. Until next time, Chrissy and I will say we do say and we must say goodbye. Sa.