It's The Safe Zone!

Summary

The Commercial Break – Episode Summary

Episode Title: It’s The Safe Zone!
Hosts: Bryan Green & Krissy Hoadley
Date: May 29, 2024

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Commercial Break casts its signature improvisational, irreverent eye on everything from near-death survival stories and acrophobia, to bizarre TLC reality show plotlines and the unsung resale value of “baby backpacks.” Bryan and Krissy riff on Facebook Marketplace’s new “safe exchange zones,” the wacky notion of live sperm donation, and the surprising ways viral internet fads resurface in suburban America. Throughout, they keep things honest, self-deprecating, and deeply funny—serving up a cheesecake sampler of relatable anxieties, cultural oddities, and offbeat aspiration.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Fear of Heights: Personal Stories and Observations

• Bryan recounts crippling acrophobia—he and his son share a paralyzing fear of heights, while his daughters seem unaffected (02:00-03:00).
  • Sharing a story of a 19-year-old surviving a 400-foot fall and marveling at the randomness of such survival (01:44-03:18).
  • “Who? Get this kid, send him to my house, take his blood, transfuse it into mine.” — Bryan (02:24)
• Phobia’s irrational roots:
  • Bryan’s intense physiological reaction even to online videos of heights, and a story of doing the Six Flags giant swing to prove a point, but being nearly immobilized by fear (06:13–11:00).
  • “My legs aren’t working... that’s how physically crippled I get by the fear of heights.” — Bryan (07:59)
  • The way social ego and bravado override self-preservation, especially when young.

2. Daredevils, YouTube Success, and the Value of Not Dying

• Fascination with “crane climbers” and parkour daredevils risking death for millions of YouTube views (13:00–16:15).
  • “Why are you doing that? For millions and millions of dollars? …Yeah, I’d do it too.” — Bryan (15:08)
• Discussion of past-life theories around acrophobia and the perilous lives of old-school skyscraper workers (17:08–18:25).
  • Krissy speculates, maybe Bryan “fell in a past life” (17:22).

3. Carnival Ride Safety & Irrational State Oversight

• Mocking the dubious carnival safety inspections handled by departments of agriculture—“can you really know whether or not there should be an extra screw in my carnival ride?” — Bryan (04:44).
• The hosts trade fears of rides, Ferris wheels, and a deep dive into YouTube/TikTok rabbit holes of ride accidents (05:00-05:35).

4. TLC Reality Show Insanity & The ‘Live Sperm Donation’ Guy

• A lengthy breakdown of 90 Day Fiancé: Love in Paradise and the truly bizarre tradition of “live sperm donation” (21:38–31:09).
  • Meet the man: A professional sperm donor who travels the world to impregnate women “live”—i.e., through actual sex rather than artificial insemination.
  • “He flies around the world and he literally has sex with women to get his super jizz into their uterus.” — Bryan (28:15)
  • The hosts react with horror and incredulity, drawing the line between donation and prostitution, and imagining the Facebook logistics.
  • Krissy: “It seemed like this may have worked a little bit better, though, without Ancestry.com.” (32:44)
• Ethical and psychological digressions:
  • The idea of having “180 children” and never shouldering parental responsibility.
  • “At the end of the day, I didn’t care about you then and I don’t care about you now. I just thought your mom was hot.” (33:14)

5. Facebook Marketplace & The ‘Safe Zone’ (Episode Title Reference)

• Reflections on selling things via Facebook Marketplace, and the use of police station “safe exchange” zones (33:28–34:48).
  • “So I’m wondering if I’m a sperm donor, if I could live donate sperm in the front of the police department and just say, ‘Hey, it’s your safe zone for me to drop off my goods.’” — Bryan (34:04)
  • The absurdity escalates with the notion of performing a “live sperm donation” in a public safe zone.
• The resale of baby gear sparks a tangent on social media “fashion” items and the upcycling trend—especially the surprising “cool factor” of baby backpacks as hiking must-haves in upper-middle-class circles (35:42–39:00).

6. American Fads, Collectibles, and Resale Culture

• From Beanie Babies to Cabbage Patch Kids, the cyclical nature of “must-have” items and the realization that viral fads never truly die (38:45-39:53).

7. The Mythos of American Extreme Endeavors

• Appalachian Trail and “transformative” outdoors experiences (42:01–46:07).
  • Discussion of people who hike the full Appalachian Trail returning as fundamentally changed, almost “otherworldly.”
  • “He had touched the face of God and we were all plebes waiting for him to come back.” — Bryan (45:24)
• Solo ocean crossings: Admiration (and envy) for YouTubers who cross oceans alone, surviving on minimal resources but with maximal enlightenment.
  • The reality check about the perils and technical prowess required—“they are all MacGyver, all of them.” (53:39)

8. Fantastical Future Escapes

• The hosts plot their hypothetical “Commercial Break—Live from the Pacific Ocean” adventure. The likely outcome: “Chrissy’s not here today. I threw her overboard, but I’m hoping I’ll find her soon.” — Bryan (51:30)
• Dolphins, pirate booty, and sailing mishaps become part of the tall-tale improv.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Bryan (on viral daredevils):
  “Why are you doing that? For millions and millions of dollars? Yeah, I’d do it too. If someone offered me millions… I’d likely die because my body would have a reaction that wouldn’t allow me to actually do it correctly.” (15:08–16:02)

• Krissy (summing up the sperm donor conundrum):
  “It seemed like this may have worked a little better, though, without Ancestry.com.” (32:44)

• Bryan (on irrational yet relatable phobias):
  “My legs aren’t working… that’s how physically crippled I get by the fear of heights.” (07:59)

• On Marketplace Exchanges:
  “You don’t want to meet somebody for a $100 item at the back of the Walmart… I’m glad they have that drop off zone for Facebook. It’s literally called the Facebook Marketplace drop off zone… if I’m a sperm donor, could I live donate sperm in the front of the police department?” (34:04)

• On the Mythic Appalachian Trail:
  “He had touched the face of God and we were all plebes waiting for him to come back. …Permanent BO, the body odor just baked into his skin.” (45:20–45:24)

• Perfect Episode Send-Up of This Show’s Vibe: “Tomorrow I talk about live sperm donation on The Commercial Break.” — Bryan (48:25)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Intro banter/Bryan’s acrophobia: 00:00–06:13
• Giant swing at Six Flags/ego vs fear: 06:13–12:02
• Extreme/viral daredevils: 13:00–16:15
• Past lives/steelworkers: 17:08–18:25
• Carnival rides/state of safety: 04:44–05:33
• TLC’s bizarre sperm donor plot: 25:58–33:14
• Facebook Marketplace ‘safe zone’: 33:28–34:48
• Baby backpack as status symbol: 35:42–39:00
• Collectibles and multi-generational fads: 38:45–39:53
• Appalachian Trail & transformation: 42:01–46:07
• Sailing solo/fantasy TCB adventure: 48:25–54:06
• Show wrap-up and call for weird stories: 55:11–end

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Final Thoughts & Listener Call-to-Action

Bryan and Krissy’s blend of “just fine” offbeat chemistry, riffing on everything from primal anxieties to niche internet phenomena, remains the heart of The Commercial Break. They invite listeners to share their own live sperm donation tales, Appalachian misadventures, or nearly anything else at their new voicemail number (212-433-3822), urging fans: “We love it when you text us… if you want to be on the Commercial Break to tell us a story about your live sperm donation or your live sperm whale donation or whatever it is… text it up.”

Until next time, “Best to you!”

Transcript

[A]

So excited for our date. I've been saving up all week. Oh, that's nice of you, but I don't mind splitting the bill. I'm not talking about the bill. On this episode of the commercial break, you don't want to meet somebody for $100 items at the back of the Walmart. You know what I'm saying? So I'm glad they have that drop off zone for Facebook. It's literally called the Facebook marketplace drop off zone. So I'm wondering if I'm a sperm donor to if I could live donate sperm in the front of the police department and just say I'm. Hey, it's your safe zone. It's your safe zone for me to drop off my goods. The next episode of the commercial break starts now. Oh, yeah. Cats and kittens, welcome back to the commercial break. I'm Brian Green. This is the spots to my tiger, Chris and Joy Hoadley. Best to you, Chrissy. Best to you, Brian. Best to you. Out there in the podcast universe, I.

[B]

Think think leopards have a spot.

[A]

Oh, tigers don't have spots.

[B]

I think tigers have stripes.

[A]

They do. Ladies. I should have paid more attention at school.

[B]

Stripe to your tiger.

[A]

You're the stripe to my tiger. You're the stripe to my tiger.

[B]

Or the spot to your leopard.

[A]

Whatever. Who cares? I should have paid attention more in school. I should have actually attended school and then maybe I would have learned some of those things. But, you know, you can't go back in the past, or so they say. No, I just read an article. This is like, terrifying. This is like my. Besides having a tooth cracked out of my head while I'm wide awake, my next living nightmare is falling from great heights. Falling from any height, really. Heights in general are my worst living night.

[B]

Right. That's a lot of people.

[A]

Yeah. It's not a particularly uncommon fear or phobia to have. And I've got it. And so does my son. And I think my two daughters are not afflicted with that fear because they'll climb up and down a ladder, be near high places, and they don't seem to. It doesn't seem to bother them. My son, on the other hand, he's got that verified Brian look on his face whenever he goes more than two steps up the ladder. He's like, daddy. And I said, I agree with you, son. Just get down. Don't bother. Yeah, don't try and be brave here. Just get down. Forget about it. You can live life without going to high places, without security fences or walls or Anything like that. There's a famous canyon in Washington. It's been picked, it's been photographed a lot. And I'm sure if you saw it, then you would see the bridge and you would understand. A lot of people. Washington state, Washington state, they, they bungee jump off of this quite a bit. Even though I don't think it's legal anymore. They bungee jump off of it there. Teenagers will often try and make it down into this gorge that is 400ft off the ground. The bridge is 400ft off the ground. That is a little less than 40 stories. 40 fucking stories in the air. A 19 year old over the weekend dropped trying to traverse this canyon, fell 400ft and survived with like scratches and bruises. How do you do that? How do you do that? Who? Get this kid, send him to my house, take his blood, transfuse it into mine. I want to know, first of all, how do you even have the bravery to get up there and start trying to climb down this particular, you know, path or whatever you want? Second of all, how do you survive something like that?

[B]

Well, you're 19.

[A]

Well, I was 19.

[B]

That's how you have the bravery to do that first.

[A]

Well, that's true, yeah.

[B]

And then, I don't know, maybe there was like a rolling like a, you know, like a roly poly that kind of like.

[A]

Yeah, like into a roll, like a little weasel or something. Just rolling yourself up and into a ball and bounce a couple of times into the ravine, you know, I was 19 once, and now that I think about it, I did a lot of drugs when I was 19. I think that's taking about just as much risk as traversing a 400 foot plate. You never know what's in it. I, you know, I think I took a lot of risks. Similar parody as far as life and death are concerned. I just never thought of it like that. I don't know what it is, but the thought, the sight, the feel of being high up, it paralyzes, literally paraphysically paralyzes me.

[B]

I'm not like that. But however, I also don't want to go jump off a bridge at 40ft, at, you know, 400ft. No, I'm good on that. You don't go to a high roller coaster.

[A]

High roller coaster all day long. I don't care about that. Yeah, I trust that. You know, only once in a million does a freak accident happen where you would actually fall off of a roller coaster. Most of the time you're just stuck in some weird position, which I wouldn't like, but at the same time I would know that help is coming at some point. Right. So roller coasters don't bother me. Tall buildings. As long as I'm not like right at the window, I'm okay.

[B]

And I did a Ferris wheel one time.

[A]

The Ferris wheel was okay? Yeah, I didn't love it. I'm not in love with Ferris wheels, especially not the kind that gets set up and taken down an hour. That is then here in the state of Georgia, like a lot of states including Florida, the people who actually like look at those carnival rides in order to make sure that they're in good condition is the state board of agriculture. What agriculture and carnivals have to do with each other, I have no idea. But you can look for disease in a corn. But can you really know whether or not there should be an extra screw in. In my carnival ride? I mean I, I've been down rabbit holes on the Internet and Instagram and TikTok where it's just reel after reel of nightmare carnival accidents. Like, you know, an arm flies off of a, off of one of those swinging rides. If people just go flying across the area.

[B]

Probably not helping your fears.

[A]

No, of course not. It's just reassuring me that my fear is legit. I think this is a legit. I don't know where it came from. You know, probably some pre man ape was up high on a cliff somewhere and said, ah, that just doesn't feel good. Yeah, Saying ah, this isn't natural. Let's go backwards. But now I am afflicted with it. It is genetic. I'm sure I passed it down to my at least one of my children. And you know, here's the thing. Let me share a story with you. When I was. Story time with Brian.

[B]

With Uncle Brian.

[A]

It's the wrong noise altogether. There you go. Story time with Brian.

[B]

I like the.

[A]

You like the BB better. Okay, we can go with that. It's a car crash waiting to happen, right? Story time with Brian. When I was like 23, 24 years old, you know, it's Six Flags or at whatever your local amusement park is, they have those big swings, the. Oh yeah, it looks like a big arch. And then they pull you up to one side way high in the air. And then you pull the string and you get, you go flying, swing back and forth, swing back and forth. Six Flags Over Georgia installed one of those one year and now it's like a permanent attraction there and it's pretty high up in the air. I'm gonna guess 20 stories is. Is my guess. And like, a lot of dumb in my life, I do it to spite other people. Like, I do it when people think I can't do it, then I do it just to spite them. Right, Right. No, that's not true. I'm not afraid of heights. I. I can get on there and I can do that. And so I was with my best friend Raphael at the time, and he says, dude, you don't have to do this. Like, you know, I can go on the ride by myself. And I. It's a two person thing, but one person can go on it. And I'm like, no, no, no, bro. I'm not as scared of heights as I say I am. I can really do this. This is fine. It's cemented to the ground. I'll. I'll be okay. And he says, bro, you don't have to prove anything. You don't want to do it, don't do it. And I'm like you. I'm doing it. So he goes. He pays the extra 50 bucks or whatever it is to do this particular ride. And then we have a time to come back. And so it's maybe 45 minutes later, hour later, we're supposed to come back. As the clock keeps ticking. Tick, tock, tick, tock. I get more and more nervous about this whole experience. And by the time it's time for us to go get ready to get on this ride where they strap you in, I. My legs aren't working. I'm not. I'm not able to walk very well. That's how physically crippled I get by the fear of heights. And so we get on this little stand. The stand raises up so that they can attach you to the string, right? They put this big suit on you, and you're. It's. It looks like a. I don't know. I don't even know how to explain. It's like a big mat they put on you so that when they lift you up, you're just together. Two people together on this hanging mat, 20ft in the air, which is not normal for human beings. You're not supposed to be up there. So he's lifting us up on this little platform. I'm shaking like a leaf on a tree. Raphael looks over at me. We're very close. We're, like, tied together, basically. And he's like, bro, you don't look good. And I'm like, bro, it's okay. Like, I'll. I'll do it. He's like, you have a chance right now to just Say, you don't want to do this, Brian. Don't do this. Yeah. At every step, my crippling anxiety is overridden by the incredible ego I have at 20, 20, 24 years old. I just know I'm. I have to do this. I have to prove Raphael wrong and myself right that I can do this. So the guy attaches us, and when he attaches us, he says, I'm going to lower the platform. And as I lower the platform, you guys are going to go from standing up to laying down. It's just going to. You're just going to swing and it's just going to la down. He. So this is all being videotaped, by the way, for posterity sake, because of course it is just like when I went skydiving. So this is all being videotaped for future embarrassment of Brian.

[B]

Right. Okay.

[A]

As the platform lowers, it's not a gentle laying down. It's like as soon as our feet are disconnected from the thing, you just go flat over. And now you're 15, 20ft in the air. And I screamed like a three year old girl. I was like, like that. And Rapha's like, brian, just say you don't want to do this. Say you do not want to do this. And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. I got it, I got it. We're here now, what are we going to do? And the guy down on the platform, who's not even reached the ground yet, is like, bro, you okay? You sure you won't do this? And I'm like, I got it, I'm good. Like, thumbs up. I got it, I'm good. So then the string starts pulling us upward. So now you're face down and it's pulling you upward 200ft in the air. Chrissy, Chrissy. The noises that I was making. Rafa was a psychiatrist at that point. He was my therapist. I was like, Rafa's like, breathe, bro. Breathe through your third eye, in through your chakra, down through your anus. Breathe, breathe. And I'm like, stop telling me to breathe. Stop telling me to breathe. We get up to the very top. The guy told us I was on the side with the little puller because Rafa was like, you be the polar. That way when you're comfortable, you go, yeah. So the guy told us, he said, listen, when you get up to the top, there's going to be a loudspeaker. I'm going to tell you it's good to pull. You can pull anytime. After that, it took Nine and a half minutes for me to pull that thing. Nine and a half minutes. At some point, the guy down with the microphone. What Said, hey, bro, you gotta pull it, bro, you gotta pull it out. And there's other people waiting in line. You gotta pull it. We'll bring you back down. Got. There's only one way now. You just gotta pull it. And finally, Ralph had to reach over and pull it. Right.

[B]

I can imagine.

[A]

Best two and a half minutes of my life was swinging down that thing. Best two and a half minutes of my life. When we finally got swinging. Was the swinging the part falling down toward earth. I don't even. I made chimpanzees noises. I'm sure of it. What's that noise that I make that everybody likes? It's. That was the noise. That was the noise that I was making. I am not built for heights. It is not in my DNA. You're also afraid of heights, aren't you? No. Oh, no.

[B]

That's what I was saying. I'm good with that stuff.

[A]

You're good with the roller coasters?

[B]

I'm good with the roller coasters. Are the heights. I mean, it's. It's scary, but I'm into it. I like the adrenaline.

[A]

Someone puts you on the top of the Sears Tower, you're good doing one of those. Like. Like what Astor did. Like lean on the glass.

[B]

Yeah, I would do that.

[A]

You would? Well, fuck you.

[B]

Jeff would not.

[A]

He's scared.

[B]

Jeff is not.

[A]

Yeah, okay. See, Jeff? Brothers in arms, buddy. Yeah, brothers in arms. I knew it. I knew. I like Jeff for a reason. Anybody who's scared of heights is good with me. We can all stay here.

[B]

Like I said. I would also not just go on, climb up to a 400 foot bridge. Free. Free. Freestyle it, whatever, like. And then jump off trying to get myself into a hole.

[A]

No, no, no. I wouldn't bungee jump. I wouldn't do anything. Like I say that, and then I went skydiving. But, you know, I don't know. Something feel. Felt more secure about the skydiving than any bungee jumping ever, ever would. I feel like they'd miscalculate the amount of rope that I needed or.

[B]

Yeah, I'm good on the bungee jumping, too. I don't want to do that.

[A]

You know, I bring this up to tell you also that one of my favorite YouTube channels, which I can't remember the name of now because I'm old and I forget stuff. One of my favorite YouTube channels is a channel of one of those, like, City climbers, the guys or girls who go up, there's a tall crane on top of a tall building. You know what I'm thinking?

[B]

Okay, okay.

[A]

In China, in Asia, wherever it happens to be, they. They fly all around the world. They find places that are unnaturally high. Like, oh, we're building the world, the next world's tallest building, 192 stories in the air. And then we have a crane to lift this stuff in the air so that we can put it on the top of this 192 story building. And that crane is an additional 40 stories in the air. So let me. In the middle of the night, when none of the construction workers are there, let me go. Let me climb to the top of the building. And then, nay, let me climb to the top of this crane. And then, nay, let me climb out on the crane. So now I'm hanging by one arm, swinging around unnaturally, completely. There's nothing that. About this, that humanity needs to do. Do you know what I'm saying?

[B]

I agree.

[A]

Why would you do that? And people die doing this. There's lots of cases of people dying doing this. But these kids, they're like, I don't know, they have some other worldly power to get out there and not only decide that they want to climb out 16, 1700ft in the air, but then climb out and prove that they can hang on with one arm while they're filming with their selfies.

[B]

Yeah. That's crazy.

[A]

Oh, they get millions and millions of views. They make money. That's better than we can say, what are we doing? We're right here on earth. Can't make money. Those guys up in the buildings being stupid. They can make lots, lots of money. But that is one of my favorite YouTube channels. And my palms get sweaty every time I watch one of those videos. Every time I have a physiological response.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

To someone else being high up in the air. It's crazy how my body responds. I wish I had any control over it. I really do.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. I don't know.

[B]

You have other strengths.

[A]

Tell me. Give me one. Give me one. Give me one other strength.

[B]

You're a great best friend.

[A]

Oh, well, thank you very much. I really appreciate.

[B]

Superhero best friend.

[A]

Yeah, I'm a superhero best friend.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

I'd. I'd rather be a superhero hanging off the end of a crane, making millions of dollars on YouTube.

[B]

Let those guys do it.

[A]

Yeah, I. You know what the video that haunts me every time is the video of the guy that's doing, like some weird form of parkour up on buildings. You know, he's like, you know, jumping from one building to the next, or one corner of a building to the next, 50, 60 stories in the air. And there's a famous video out there of a guy who jumps. He grabs on, he's trying to show off a little bit, and he loses his grip. And he's hanging there, trying to pull himself back up, trying desperately to pull himself back up, but he doesn't do it. He doesn't get it. And he falls. And that's it. A game over. End of life. Why are you doing that? For millions and millions of dollars. Yeah, I do it, too. If someone offered me millions of millions of dollars, I'd go, I'd climb one of those cranes. I would. How many dollars would it take for you to climb one of those cranes?

[B]

Oh, I don't know. Yeah, I guess millions.

[A]

I would likely die because my body would have a reaction that wouldn't allow me to, like, actually do it correctly. I wouldn't be able to overcome that physiological response. But at least I know my children were taken care of.

[B]

Right.

[A]

You know, if someone said 10 million bucks, Brian, go to the Shayxing Tower in China and climb out on that crane, I'd say, kids, I wasn't a great father, but I was the father you had. And now you and your mother are going to be rich. Flying to Spain on private jets, and she's going to sleep with the pool boy. But just know that I died in a semi. Honorable fashion making a YouTube video for the. For money, for your private education, for your cooking school in France.

[B]

There you go. It's honorable.

[A]

It's. You know, listen, we do what we can here on this earth, and then we move on to the next. Whatever that is.

[B]

The next realm.

[A]

Yeah. And I'm sure I'd find that. I'd find that out just like I did at the top of the Sears Tower, completely encased in glass. No fear of anybody falling, dying, anything like that. And Brian's knees buckled and I fell to the floor and Astrid had to drag me out of the stairs.

[B]

Maybe you were one of those guys, you know, that worked in a past life. Maybe you were one of those guys.

[A]

That were working on steel workers.

[B]

The steel workers on the top of the tall building. And maybe you fell.

[A]

That's a lovely thought.

[B]

And that's why you're afraid in this life.

[A]

I'm gonna talk to my therapist about that. My next past life regression. Yeah, you might be right. You might be right.

[B]

Just throwing it out There, that could be true.

[A]

I could have fallen off a tall building. And now it's just like genetically in me that I'm always going to be afraid of heights and rightfully so.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

I bet a lot of those guys died like that.

[B]

You would have to think.

[A]

Yeah, there was. They didn't even have lights.

[B]

What's that one famous picture, you know, with them?

[A]

The four guys? Yeah. On the top of the. Get me the down. That's what I say. Can I go to Kat's Deli? Do I need to sit here and eat?

[B]

But they like you. We're probably like, I've got to provide for my family. And this pays really well.

[A]

Oh, it does pay really well. Because 1 in 7 of you ain't coming home tonight. But, you know, so we get to give the extra money. When Joe dies, y' all get to split his tick. So keep on climbing up to the top of that building. And they like road steel girders to the top of that. It's like just insane.

[B]

This is 100 years ago too, right? When was the. When was the Empire State Building?

[A]

20S, tens, something like that. 20s, tens, 30.

[B]

That feels right.

[A]

Yeah. Sometime in the 1900s. Sometime in the 1900s when I worked in the real estate business, I went and visited a project and it was just a 20 story building, it was not anything particularly high. And I went and I visited and I took like the, you know, the dinky little elevator that they basically attach to the side of the structure.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

It's like a construction elevator. Yeah. And it's a cage. That's all it is. It's just a cage, a rattly ass cage stuck on this one little pipe that's floating up to the air. And you're stuck with eight other guys in there, 300 pounds more than I am. You know, they're big boys and some of these gentlemen that do this kind of work. And so we're riding up this elevator. I am in the corner and I'm just like shaking rabidly like a dog.

[B]

Imagine.

[A]

Yeah. And then they wanted to get out and walk around and I just kind of. There was like a cement. The elevator shaft had been built and then the rest was being built out. The steel was being built out. And there was a floor, but it wasn't like the permanent floor. It was just a floor for people to walk on, like a temporary floor. But they had that big, you know, elevator shaft made of concrete. And there was like a little tiny pad that you could, you know, that was there for whatever purposes. And I stood there while everybody else toured around while, you know, the contractor gave this grand tour of the city. And look at those views and look at this and look at that. I stood there myself in the corner and then had to take the ride back down myself again because it's holy scary to me. Somebody has a cure for this. Let me know. I know one of these listeners is.

[B]

Going to call Xanax. Xanax, I think that's your.

[A]

I think, I actually think my physiological response is stronger than Xanax. All right, let's take a break. I want to thank very much Wendy McClendon Covey for coming in this week. Please check her out. She was a lot of fun and.

[B]

Just such a legend to me.

[A]

And if you didn't listen to the interview, you'll, and you do go listen to the interview, you'll know that the last two and a half minutes of our conversation got cut off for whatever reason, it didn't record. And so I had to put a little transition in there. But I want to apologize to Wendy about that. But anyway, there's 49 minutes of great conversation. So let's not talk about the stuff we don't have. Let's be proud of the stuff we do have, shouldn't we, Chrissy?

[B]

We should.

[A]

I agree. So go check out Wendy McLendon Covey in all of her forms and formats. She is a wonderful human being and we really appreciate her coming on board. Let's take a break and we'll be back.

[C]

Well, thank the baby Jesus. Brian took a breath. And now I will use this opportunity to let you know that we've got a brand new phone number. That's right, it's 212433. And you can text us anytime you want or you can call and leave us a voicemail and we might just use your message on the show once Brian gets through all the messages he missed last year. Of course. Anyway, you can also find and DM us on Instagram at the commercial break and on TikTok, CBpodcast, and of course, all of our audio and video is easily found on tcbpodcast.com Now, I'm going to thank G one more time that we have sponsors. So thank G. And here they are.

[A]

All right, now we're back. Okay, here's the situation. Let me explain it to you and we'll see what you think about this Seeking Sister Wives, which is the only show on TLC that I'm currently trying to keep up with, even though there's lots better TV out There.

[B]

Not to interrupt you, but I am just for one second. I finished Baby Reindeer, so there you go. Okay, so we'll talk about that later.

[A]

Well, no, give me two minute dissertation. What do you think?

[B]

Yeah, I mean, it's crazy. It's sad.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean, it's sad that someone's mentally ill. That's sad.

[B]

Well, that and the guy.

[A]

Well, I was talking about also have some problems talking about both of them.

[B]

I mean. Yeah, it was interesting, I guess.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

So, yeah, I finished it. I was like, damn it, I don't want to finish this, but Brian's making me.

[A]

Making you. I just wanted you to see it all the way through. I was so excited about the show. I loved it. It is sad. I mean, in general, it's a sad story. But there are.

[B]

It's certainly turned out he's got a Netflix special, so that's good.

[A]

Yeah, we'll see what he does for two. Right. I'm interested to see what he. Yeah.

[B]

Because they did kind of leave it.

[A]

Yeah, I don't know that there'll be a baby reindeer too, but they did leave it. I mean, it's kind of an open ended. Yes, my take on the end of it. And spoiler alert, my take on the end of it is he meets this lady, Martha, who ends up becoming his stalker when she walks into a bar he's working at and she's had a bad day or whatever it is. And he's the bartender. He gives her a cup of tea for free. He gives her a cup of tea. And that starts this year and a half. Long crazy.

[B]

Like three, four years.

[A]

Three, four years. I don't, I don't know how long it was, the timeline, but it starts this incredibly crazy story of her stalking him intensely. I mean really intensely. And his push and pull in his brain about being empathetic toward her or calling the police or. Anyway, the very end scene, and this is the spoiler alert, fast forward 30 seconds, is he walks into a bar, he's just had a bad day and a cute bartender gives him a cup of a beer, a glass of beer for free. And then the. It's kind of like my interpretation of that is, was he the sick one all along or was she the sick one all along? Or were they both just sick together and needed each other in some way, shape or form? Could it just have easily been him who started stalking somebody? Right. Okay, so baby reindeer, great. Go watch it. Now it's back to seeking Sister Wise, a much better television program. This one's going to win a cat.

[B]

I have not gotten back into that.

[A]

But okay, well, baby reindeer is much better than Seeking sister wives. I'm just giving you. But at the end of the day, this one is super fascinating because none of these couples work out. None of them work out. They're trying desperately to find sister wives, but it's just a shit show all over the place, as you would expect.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

So not saying it never works out. I'm saying on the television show, it doesn't work out. And that's probably for good reason. TLC needs to produce a season number five, and they're getting good ratings. Right. So of course they're with people who probably never had a chance in the first place to find a sister wife. Okay. One of the storylines this year. Oh, excuse me. This is not Seeking sister wives. This is Love in paradise. 90 Day Fiance. Love in Paradise. Oh, you.

[B]

You started Love in Paradise?

[A]

Started Love in Paradise.

[B]

Because I started it and I was like, nope. Yeah, not gonna get sucked in.

[A]

Okay. There's only one. There's only two story lines that I.

[B]

Started Love in Paradise.

[A]

And I just watch it for this one. I literally fast forward to one or two story lines on this. Okay. And here's the storyline. Seeking sister wives is good too. I'm sorry, I brain farted there. There's a great storyline on that one too. But I'll try and I'll try and keep it to one TLC show per episode of the commercial break. So 90 Day Fiance. The other way. Love in Paradise. So essentially it's Americans going to meet their loved ones someplace else rather than the normal 90 day fiance, which is someone from abroad coming to the United States, going through the 90 day visa process. So this one guy meets this girl, she lives in Malta. Very beautiful woman. Very. Seems down to earth. Lovely place to be in Malta. Who doesn't want to live in Malta? Yeah. Gorgeous people all around, Gorgeous location, wonderful country, so. Or wonderful city. This guy, guess what he does for a living. What? He is a sperm donor. Oh, okay. Now that's the important thing to know about.

[B]

Do that for a living.

[A]

He does it for a living. He's been doing it for a living for a long time. He take. He has clean. He does clean living. He makes sure that his bodies. He's not like a workout guy. He's got a dad bod for sure, but he makes sure that his body in general is clean. Free from nicotine and tobacco, free from trans fats and all this other stuff. He eats a lot of. Lettuce and fish. And he takes a lot of supplements to make his jizz extra gooey and full of spermies. Right. He says that the Average man has 190 million sperm per inch. I don't even know how they measure that. Whatever. Yeah, but he's got 380 million sperm per inch or whatever. So he basically very braggadocious about his sperm count and his ability to get women pregnant. And here is the storyline, how he got here. He one day wrote. He one day read on Facebook that one of his friends who was in a relationship was having a lot of trouble conceiving, and they were having trouble conceiving because of low sperm count. Now, why you would put this on Facebook, I don't know, but I have been on Facebook and I know that people aren't ashamed of anything. They'll put anything on Facebook. It's like that goddamn next door. So he reads this post and he says back to his friend on the Facebook post, hey, I'll give it a try. You can have my sperm. Right? I got strong sperm. I got strong swimmers. I got a lot of them. 50 billion per inch. 50 billion per square.

[B]

The baby daddy.

[A]

I'll be the baby dad.

[B]

So weird. But okay.

[A]

Okay, right, exactly. But, hey, listen, I could see, you know, someone was having some struggles to help out. I could see, you know, jizzing into a cup and saying, God bless you. I don't want to talk to the kid, but God bless you. But he offers to help, and that starts his life as a professional sperm donor. But the really weird part about this is that he does. Most of his sperm donations are done as live sperm donations. Having sex with the woman to conceive, live sperm donations. Live sperm donations. Not in a cup, in a bathroom, not in a turkey baster like I have seen is done. But live sperm donations, like in a medical setting? No, in a medical set. Like in a Airbnb setting.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

He flies around the world and he literally has sex with women to get his super jizz into their uterus. That's it. He's got 180 children or something like that all around the world. And he gets paid to travel, fly, and do live sperm donations. How? That's how he says it, not how. I don't think there's an actual term for this. I think it's just sex, right? Yes, but he calls it live sperm donation. Well, he's got this beautiful girl in Malta who he's now fallen in love with because she wanted his sperm. But she. I don't Think she wanted the live sperm donation version of this? I think she just wanted sperm. But he has this whole Facebook page where he connects with women around the world, and then he goes and he has sex with them. And he was showing the cameras how he makes sure that they have the best chance to get pregnant. He stands on the top of the bed. She lays her head upside down over the the bed. You know, over the bed. She's basically hanging upside down over the bed. And then he does his thing. He ejaculates. And then he keeps her there for 10 to 15 minutes before he pulls out with her legs upside down in the air. And I'm like, this guy is just a fucking creepy. That's what he is. He's not a live sex sperm donation guy. He's just a fucking douche running around pretending to get girls pregnant so that he can have sex with whomever he wants. And he probably charges $2,500. He is a male prostitute. That's what he is. What a life in another world, in another universe. This would have been my. This could have been my superhero moment. I don't know what my sperm count is, but I think I'm doing okay. I got 30 children. I think I'm doing all right.

[B]

Well, not anymore.

[A]

But not anymore. I have zero sperm, but I'd be willing to give it. You know, I told Astrid, I said, listen, times are tough right now. You know, Podcast is chugging along on zero gas. Podcast is chugging along on zero Gas. You know, I could give blood. I could give sperm. I could do live sperm donations. To which she said, I don't know what that is, but no, I have no idea what you're talking about. But no, no, no live sperm donations. This is an incredible thing that I did not know existed. And I'm dying to hear a story about, like, I'm dying to hear if someone in the audience has done this and knows of somebody who's done this has been the recipient of a live sperm donation. I would love to love to hear your story. You must text us and let us know if you're out there, if this is something you've been a part of or have heard someone close to you has been a part of. Because I want to know what the minutiae of this is. How. I don't know. I'm just, like, befuddled. I mean, about how someone would be convinced to do a live sperm donation. I mean, I guess that is the traditional way of getting pregnant, right?

[B]

It is, but would you do it?

[A]

With a stranger.

[B]

No.

[A]

And he's not a. Listen, I'm no Brad Pitt either. I get it. I'm no Giovanni Ribisi. But at the end of the day, if that's even a guy, I'm.

[B]

That sounds like.

[A]

It sounds like a guy.

[B]

Like a romantic guy.

[A]

Yeah. I think he's a Giovanni Raviz. I'm no, you know, good looking, super hunk. But at the end of the day, I think I can weigh myself sometimes. If, like, the extremes are, like, I look at Brad Pitt and I go, definitely not me. Right. But then I look at. I don't know who. Who could I look at? I don't want to make fun of Careful here. Yeah. I want to be careful here. Be real careful here. I look at Jack Black, one of my favorites. Definitely a lovely guy. Very, very nice guy. But I go, I might be a little bit better looking than Jack Black. Right. Okay. So I look at this live sperm donation guy and I go, I think I got him beat. I think I got that guy beat. I think. I think I probably could have made a good career out of this, Chrissy. One where I don't have to update my LinkedIn profile. There's no clocking in or clocking out necessarily. There's dicking in and dicking out, but there's no clocking in there, locking out and free travel all around the world. What more could you ask for? This guy is literally living the life. He's getting paid to have sex, and then he has none of the responsibility of being a father. And all of the joy of thinking about it. I mean, all of the joy of imagining he's a father.

[B]

Yeah. It seemed like this may have worked a little bit better, though, without Ancestry.com.

[A]

True.

[B]

He's gonna have.

[A]

True.

[B]

A lot of people coming to him.

[A]

He's gonna have a lot of people. And what do you say?

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Listen, son, I know you think that I'm your dad, and I probably am, given that I was paid to have sex with your mother and then, you know, donated my sperm to her.

[B]

And genetically it says you're my dad.

[A]

And genetically, we share the same DNA. But at the end of the day, I didn't care about you then and I don't care about you now. I just thought your mom was hot.

[B]

It was just a job.

[A]

Yeah, it's just a job. You can find anything on that Facebook marketplace, You can find anything on that.

[B]

Facebook marketplace, but everybody's talking about it.

[A]

Oh, we just sold a bunch of stuff over the weekend. Yeah, Selling the entire house.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Sperm donations, blood donations, selling everything that we own and we did it. And the local police department here has like a safe drop off area.

[B]

Oh, they do. Oh, that's a good idea.

[A]

They have a safe drop off. Yeah.

[B]

Because I know I've bought something off of. What was it? Craigslist one time and it was like meeting in a parking lot at Best Buy. So I'm glad that there's safe places now.

[A]

Yeah, that's right. You don't want to meet. You don't want to meet somebody for $100 item at the back of the Walmart. You know what I'm saying? So I'm glad they have that drop off zone for Facebook. It's literally called the Facebook Marketplace drop off zone. So I'm wondering if I'm a sperm donor, if I could live donate sperm in the front of the police department and just say, I'm. Hey, it's your safe zone. It's your safe zone for me to drop off my goods. And she's just gotta hang out upside down for 10 to 15 minutes. Don't mind her.

[B]

See that mattress over there that's about to get.

[A]

What if I showed up?

[B]

We're gonna use that.

[A]

Popped open a hatchback, pulled out a single mattress. There's like a nice little park area in front of the.

[B]

There's probably some sicko out there that wants to buy the mattress after you do the live sperm dinner.

[A]

Maybe it's the woman.

[B]

It's a double, double win.

[A]

She says, hey, that's gold right there. Don't want to lose any of that. I'm taking that sheet home, if you don't mind. So Astrid, of course, you know, she's selling the stuff because I don't know the first thing about anything. So it's just better that Astrid handles stuff, if I'm being honest. Also, it is. Yeah. I can go out and play with the kids. I'm good at that. So, you know, this weekend, every once in a while it would be like, hey, honey, can you meet the guy at whatever? Hey, sweetie, can you meet the girl at whatever? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's 10 minutes down the road, so I jump in the car on one of these drop offs and I'm dropping off a baby bag, like a backpack specifically made for you to carry around.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Your small little bastard children from your live sperm donation.

[B]

And then like the front, the front pouch.

[A]

No, no, the back one. Well, we did sell the front pouch one too. Like the carrier. The baby carrier.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

This is an actual Backpack where you.

[B]

Put the baby in it?

[A]

No, it's made for, like, the bottles, and it's got a million.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And it's one of these designer things that everybody has to have, and it's way too expensive because it's just a backpack, but they call it a baby backpack, so now it's got an extra pocket for nipples. And I don't know. Who knows, you know? Any reason to charge you more money? Yes. And so. But Astrid, being the, you know, incredible human being she is, kept it neat, keeps it neat, keeps it clean. Now it's clear we're not having any more children. So she thinks, hey, there's lots of.

[B]

Pass it on.

[A]

Who'd love to have this?

[B]

Yeah. I like this whole idea of recycling upcycling.

[A]

I do. And we gave a lot of stuff away to the women's shelter, too. Like stuff that done that. Yeah. Some stuff we sold, but then some stuff we gave away because we thought it would be useful to the ladies who are obviously having a tough time right now.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

So. And they have children, too, which just makes it, like, double whammy. So she says, hey, can you meet this lady? Drop off the back. Okay, I'll meet this lady. So say, go to the safe exchange. Go to the safe jizz exchange area. And I get there, I pull up right next to her. We're both in these SUVs. Well, she turns out to be quite the Chatty Patty, which is not what I was bargaining for. You know what I'm saying? Right. Like, I just wanted to go down like a drug deal, literally. Yeah. Give me my money. Right.

[B]

See you later.

[A]

I'm not here to have a full conversation. But of course she's a Chatty Patty. And what are you going to do now? You're stuck in front of a police station, looking strangely like a drug deal, and you're handing her, literally, a bag that, by the way, Astrid put paper in so it looks like it's. The bag is completely full of something. So here we are through the windows, exchanging this whole thing, and she. And so, as a part of the. Just being a human being and having a conversation, I say, oh, enjoy the bag. Are you expecting. Is there another one on the way? What's. Is her kid at home? And she goes, oh, no, no, no, no, no. And I go, oh, okay. She goes, it's just all the fashion right now to have these backpacks when you're hiking. And I was like, oh, really? Yes. It's got so many pockets. It's so perfect. It Looks great. It's totally useful. I just love it. I've been looking for it, but I don't want to buy it new because it's too expensive. I applaud you for that. But people are carrying around baby backpacks as just regular backpacks because they're fashionable. Yes. All my friends have them and I'm just dying for one. And I was like, oh, okay. Where are you going? Hiking. Well, not like hiking in the traditional sense. I mean like when I'm out in Charleston or St. Simon's island and I'm like, oh, like rich hiking. You mean like walking in front of retail stores? Just walking around your thousand dollar baby bag on your back? At least it's used. Unbelievable. I listen, use the backpack for whatever the fuck you want. It's, you know, I don't think there's any law against using a baby.

[B]

I guess I was thinking too, like mothers maybe that had them are now reusing them to go hiking with. But the hiking and the, the walking.

[A]

Having FOMO over your. Over what kind of backpack you have.

[B]

It happens.

[A]

FOMO over the back.

[B]

Stanley cup went crazy. That's.

[A]

Oh yeah, we all decided to put that down. I've noticed Stanley hasn't been in the news.

[B]

Babies, whatever it is, there's always something out there that people want and then it kind of becomes just a thing.

[A]

Well, listen, to have it after the Beanie Baby situation. I am never going to call the death to any collectible or fad because it's really not. I told you I went to that Cabbage Patch Kid fucking baby lands. Yeah, where the creepy babies just fly out of the lettuce. And your kids are asking you all kind of questions about where babies come from and why do they come out of lettuce. And I'm like, well, it kind of looks like lettuce when birth is actually happening. You don't want to do that. Don't look. Don't look into the eye of the sun. But you know, I go there, there's hundreds of people in that fucking place. They're all. Is all the rage to get a Cabbage Patch Kid again. I thought we got rid of that in the 80s. And now all of a sudden a whole new generation of people with the cabbage patch. So I guess I can't fault the lady for wanting the backpack too much. And at least she's buying a used. At least she's being frugal. She is saying, hey, let me not destroy the earth anymore. I'll take a used one, no problem. But it made Me think we should have sold that for a lot more money.

[B]

I know.

[A]

We should have posted it in the Charleston Facebook group, because apparently there's a lot of people hiking around Charleston. Charleston. She goes, oh, no. Charleston. Walking around Charleston, like, walking around.

[B]

That's just like, flat, like, you know, becoming more and more under the sea.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

I think, yes, it's.

[A]

It is a city literally under the sea. They had to build a wall to keep the sea out, number one. Number two, there isn't a nature trail to be found within 10 miles of Charleston. Unless you want to be in the swamp, of course.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And so I just thought that's an interesting way to describe hik as, you know, middle of Charleston.

[B]

I know. She could have at least said, like, north Georgia mountains.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And just gone with that.

[A]

I know. That's what I would have said. I would have been like, I'm hiking the app. I'm in and out of the app in a couple days. You know, the app trail. App trail.

[B]

Or we got lost at the beginning.

[A]

We got lost in the app trail, but we didn't even make it half a mile down the app.

[B]

Trying to even go on desperately.

[A]

If we only had the baby bag, we probably would have survived. Yeah, we could have put some extra supplies in there. Unbelievable. All right, let's take a break. We'll talk more about our expeditions, and we'll talk more about the Appalachian Trail when we get back.

[C]

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[A]

And do, do, do, do. We're back with you. Did you ever go on the Appalachian Trail besides that one and a half miles you went with me? No, no.

[B]

But I've known people that have hiked it.

[A]

Oh, I've known people that have hiked it, too. Yeah.

[B]

Good for them. My dad hiked it.

[A]

I hiked it for two and a half days.

[B]

Part of it.

[A]

Part of it. You go all the way up.

[B]

Yeah. That's a commitment.

[A]

That's a task. You gotta have like six months of your life dedicated to that. You have to have no job, sponsors, rich parents, something. I don't know, but yeah, or no parents, I'm not sure. But I've known people who have done it all the way up and all the way down.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And they were just like different human beings when they came back. They were strange human beings in the first place, but when they came back, they were like, really in it. It's. You know, there's an interesting statistic that none of the guys who went to the moon ended up married to their first wife after they went to the moon. And some people believe that there is this, like real psychological switch that flips when you go so far out there and we're talking about space or wherever and you spend this time with yourself, some switch flips. And it's really hard to relate to other people who haven't also done that. And so I felt that way about some of the people that went to the Appalachian Trail that I knew. Even some that just went for a month or two didn't even go all the way up and all the way down. I hiked it for two and a half days and I came back. We were going to do it for two weeks. I made it two and a half days. That's it. Because I was like this. I'm not interested.

[B]

I like a good day hike.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But anything over six hours for me is like, okay.

[A]

I take six hours a day. By the time I was like, you know, 14, missed 14 showers, I was really feeling not so great about myself. I had a raging case of, I don't know, you know, Apple app ass, I guess is what they call it. I had a raging case of app ass. And I just wasn't. I just wasn't cut out for it. I'm not cut out for much physically. As I've said before. I am no high performance anything, let alone athlete or trail rider. That's just not me. But I was with these. This group who really were dedicated to this whole thing. It's mythological to them, right? To go up the Appalachian Trail, even just a little bit and come back down. But the people who made it all the way up or all the way up and all the way back down.

[B]

All the way up and all the.

[A]

Way down, all the way down. But you only knew one guy.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

He was like 20 years old. When he did it, he was gone for, I don't know what it was, six, seven months?

[B]

Yeah, it's a long.

[A]

And you have to do it during a certain time of year and rely on the kindness of strangers. And occasionally you can find a telephone, a hotel, or a warm bed. But most of the time, you're just out there in the middle of the wilderness. And good luck if anything happens. You know, back then, when I knew the guy who did it, there weren't, like, satellite cell phones. You didn't have coverage in every corner of the United States. So you went out there and where would you charge it anyway? Right? Where would you charge the. I guess have, like, you know, battery packs and all this sun. What are those things?

[B]

Solar.

[A]

Solar? Is that what they call it these days, what the kids are calling it? Solar panel. You have solar panels that could charge your phone and all that, but back then, literally no communication until you got to the next spot where there might be a pay phone or a telephone that someone would let you use. And this one particular dude that I knew that went up and back, when he came back, he was a different human being. He was. It was hard to relate to him. It's like he had touched the face of God and we were all plebes waiting for him to come back. I saw him at a party one time, and he said these long beard.

[B]

Oh, yeah, the beard is definitely permanent, bo.

[A]

You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, permanent, because it just baked into his skin. The body odor just baked into his skin. So he smelled like, I don't know, like a Grateful Dead concert in the 60s. And so I. I saw him at a party, and I'm all drunk, and I got a beer in my hand, you know, smoking cigarettes. Get two pagers and a cell phone. Appalachian Trail. It was life defining, my brother. I'm holding space for you. I don't know what the that means. Want a Bud Light? No, I'm staying away from the pleasures of the skin in the earth. Okay, whatever, bro. I'm gonna get a Bud Light and I'll come back and smoke a camera Light with you. I mean, he was like a different human being, in a word, in a otherworldly way. Day.

[B]

I can imagine that that happens.

[A]

It does. How do you. How are you gone for six or seven months with limited, if any, human interaction in the bears, in the snakes, taking a. And I mean, listen, just waking up in the morning and having your morning press conference over a bunch of kudzu with insects crawling in and out of your anus and then having to bury it so the, you know, the jaguars don't get you or whatever. It's got to be after a while. It's just got to change your mentality about life in general, about Earth and our place here and all that. I wish, just like the guys who climb the. The towers. I wish I had that kind of fortitude in some way, shape or form, any kind of fortitude to do anything that dangerous change. I mean, some people would say, like, oh, you did ayahuasca and you go to these weekend retreats. You went to the parties in the woods. Yeah, I was always 15 minutes from air conditioning. Like, I didn't do anything revolutionary, right? These people did. I. I also watch. I watch a lot of these videos of the guys and girls who go across. They sail across the Pacific Ocean or some great distance by themselves in little dinky ass sailboats. There's this one guy who's on a trip right now, and when he can, he uploads videos to YouTube. He's got one of those, like, you know, I don't know, satellite cell phones or whatever. Oh, my God. This dude went from chunky monkey, like, you know, full dad bod, like his tattoos were stretching, you know what I'm saying? In three months, transformed his entire body. He's like. He's like a Buddha now. He knows everything. He's an old man in the sea. He's talking to the whales, he's calling dolphins, and they're pulling his rig, you know, across the ocean. I mean, it's. It's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. And I think to myself, I am so jealous of this guy and his pursuits in life when all I do is wake up, walk 20ft, talk on the microphone for an hour, shut it down, and complain about everything in life. And this guy's out in the middle of the ocean with the whales and the cargo ships and everything else bad that can happen in the middle of an ocean without any communication or human contact. And he's just loving it. He's like, tomorrow, I've sailed to Bora Bora. And I'm like, oh, that's nice. Tomorrow I, you know, change another dirty diaper. Tomorrow. Tomorrow I talk about live sperm donation on the commercial break.

[B]

Well, he also maybe doesn't have 30 children.

[A]

No.

[B]

Or maybe he does. Maybe he does and that's why he's left.

[A]

Well, listen, there's anything that's going to get me motivated to get on that CR. That cross transatlantic, sailing by myself, it's the 30 children.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Telling you what, right?

[B]

There you go. Keep watching those videos. That can be your motivation.

[A]

Oh, Chrissy, we just need to check.

[B]

In with you from your boat.

[A]

We need to do one thing like this before we get too old to do one thing like this.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know what I'm saying? So I think we got a good 20, 25 years left that we could probably tackle one of these things. Commercial break Live from the Pacific Ocean for 119 nights. We can catch fish, we can swim with the dolphins. You know what, you know, it's like startlingly, I guess, scary when I watch these videos of the people that are crossing the Pacific or the Atlantic is when they do anything out on their deck, they have two, not one, two carabiners with lines attached to them so that if they fall off the side, they don't lose the boat.

[B]

Yeah, that's a good idea.

[A]

That is fun. What? But just think about the minutiae of that. Think about the reality of that. That you have to lock yourself to the boat.

[B]

Storms that you're going through. Waves.

[A]

All of it. Yeah, all of it.

[B]

And they have whales pushing you up.

[A]

Oh, the whales are killing people out in Spain. What the is going on with that? Why?

[B]

I didn't even know that.

[A]

The way the killer whales, the killer whales, the big sperm whales and the killer whales, the blue whales, they are in Spain, some parts of the Mediterranean right now. They are capsizing yachts. 50 foot, 60 foot, 70 foot yachts. They're like eating the propellers. Eating the propellers.

[B]

They're like, there's you bunch of rich assholes.

[A]

Yeah, you bunch of rich assholes. We're sick of you driving around. Get out. Get out.

[B]

Too many of you.

[A]

Yeah, I. So I read this article. I was going to talk about this on another episode.

[B]

What's the show on? On Bravo. Below deck.

[A]

Below deck. Yeah.

[B]

We've seen too many seasons.

[A]

That's right.

[B]

Get out here.

[A]

I don't blame those whales. I just don't blame those whales. But then like some whale psychiatrist or some whale psychiatrist, whatever he is, behavioralist, he said that a lot of people are interpreting it, that the whales are attacking the boats. Well, yeah, when they capsize the fucking boat, it seems like they're attacking them. He says, no, they're just playing with the boat. That's what they're doing. They're playing with the boat. Oh, how nice. How reassuring. I don't care if they're playing or if they're attacking. I don't want them capsizing my boat. In the middle of the Mediterranean. It. That's just not what I want. So anyway, it is like the startling realization that you cannot get disconnected from the boat in any way, shape, or form. That you must be attached to it 24 hours a day, seven days a week is really, really scary. I mean, who in their right mind thinks that's a good. How do you sleep at night? You know, how do you sleep at night? But I think if we had each other to do this.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Then we could probably survive it together. And we could do episodes of the commercial break. We would probably. Someone would kill someone.

[B]

Live from the Pacific Ocean.

[A]

Live from the Pacific Ocean. Chrissy's not here today. I threw her overboard, but I'm hoping I'll find her soon. I thought I heard her scream.

[B]

Meanwhile, I'm off riding a dolphin.

[A]

Meanwhile, you're attached to having a great time. Chrissy ends up in a wahoo. Hey, Brian. Good to see you. No, no hard feelings about getting thrown up.

[B]

It was meant to be.

[A]

Strange thing happen.

[B]

Golf and pick me up.

[A]

Yeah. Pack of bottlenecks picked me up, Drove me to Oahu. And on the way we found Mexican cartel bags of money and cocaine.

[B]

Remember that shipwreck that everybody's looking for? They took me to it.

[A]

I found it.

[B]

I've got this pouch of gold coins.

[A]

One dolphin opened his mouth and old pirate booty came out of it. It was amazing.

[B]

Sparkling everywhere.

[A]

So, hey, why don't you go ahead and get another night in the boat? I'll let you anchor wherever you want to. I gotta get back to my brand new house being built next to. Oh, Oprah. Talk to you later. Yep. I heard the latest episode of the commercial break. Just as shitty as it always was. See you later.

[B]

Keep going, keep going.

[A]

Ride off into the mystic, Doing a great job. Please, Chrissy, I just need some water, a steak, and a new microphone. Ah, dolphins made me sign contract. Said don't give any of that to Brian. They really don't like you. I know. They took off the back half of my boat. Brian rides in on an old piece of wood with, like, one of those orange preservers on, looking like Tom Hanks. Oh, did it. Yep.

[B]

That's the way it seems.

[A]

That's the way it.

[B]

Maybe we should start on the Chattahoochee before we tackle the Pacific.

[A]

Yeah, maybe we.

[B]

We.

[A]

Maybe I should be able to swim the entire length of my pool before I try and get out.

[B]

Yeah, let's start at your pool.

[A]

Yeah, we'll put a practice boat out there.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

Let's spend one night and see if we kill each other. Listen, I know that I can't even get guests to come up on our computer, right. I'm sure I wouldn't handle a sailboat. Okay. Because one thing is common with all these people who are sailing, doing the Appalachian Trail, all the videos that are online. One thing thing is they have all have in common. They're all MacGyver, all of them. Everyone you have to be. Because everything goes wrong. Everything goes wrong. It always does.

[B]

Prepared.

[A]

Yeah. Like, you know, sailing is not an easy thing to do just in the lake, let alone in an Ocean.

[B]

For 100 capsized one one time 4h camp.

[A]

Really? Yeah. Most likely to drown. Chris is most likely to drown. Yeah, it was fun. Yeah, I like boating, but I don't have the best of experiences. The one yacht I've ever been allowed on in my life, my kids spelled red apple red grape juice all over the white carpet. Yeah, it was fun while it lasted, Brian. Fun while it lasted. All right, well, I hope you all enjoy enjoyed your Memorial Day weekend. Yeah, I know we did. We didn't do anything. Stayed right here. Another four day stretch of the house. Just add on to the 180 day stretch I've already got going. One of these days, one of these days. I keep telling myself, one of these days, Chrissy, we're gonna be rich.

[B]

Yes, yes.

[A]

I have firm belief. I firm, firm belief. Here, look. I have the first dollar we ever made right there under the board.

[B]

Nice.

[A]

Right there, signed by me. It's not the first dollar. We haven't made a dollar yet. I loaned myself a dollar to pretend I made the first dollar ever on the commercial. All right. You know how it goes. We'd love you on the show especially if you have been the recipient of a live sperm donation. 212-43333. TCB. That's 212-433-3822. Questions, comments, concerns, content, ideas. We take them all at that phone number. So many people have been texting in. We love it. We love it when you text us. We got so many text messages over the holiday weekend. I was, at least I had something to do. I was responding. Right. To our fans.

[B]

Thank you for texting. Thank you very much, audience.

[A]

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[B]

Best to you.

[A]

Best you out there in the podcast universe. Until next time. Chrissy and I always say, we do say and we must say goodbye. Sam.