IYKYK

Summary

The Commercial Break – Episode: "IYKYK"

Date: July 17, 2024
Hosts: Bryan Green (“B”) & Krissy Hoadley (“A”)

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Bryan and Krissy riff on the widespread use of the internet phrase “if you know, you know” (IYKYK), delivering their signature blend of offbeat humor and social commentary on influencer culture, social media exclusivity, and the ever-shifting landscape of pop culture trends. The duo veers into discussions about objectophilia, Disney’s increasingly expensive consumer model, Taylor Swift’s masters dispute, and the absurdity of “in the know” clubbiness—peppered with sharp jokes and self-awareness. Expect irreverence, candor, and biting takes on how we chase coolness in the digital age.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Social Media and the IYKYK Phenomenon

Starts at 00:14

• Bryan’s Rant: Bryan shares his annoyance with the overuse of “if you know, you know” (IYKYK) on social media, calling out how it fosters cliquishness and unnecessary exclusivity.
• Authenticity vs. Elitism: The hosts argue that the phrase creates a faux sense of insider knowledge, often about trivial things, leading to unnecessary FOMO (fear of missing out).
• Food Posts & Influencer Culture: Bryan criticizes people who post cryptic food pics with IYKYK captions as if they’re “running around with some secret group”—but it’s usually just dinner at an obscure spot.
• Notable Quote:
  • “If you take a picture next to Oprah and you say ‘if you know, you know,’ then, f*** yeah, because we all know it's Oprah. But if you take a picture of your food… No, I don't know, because I don't live in your f***ing state!”
    — Bryan (02:47)
• Krissy’s Take: Krissy sees some value in food posts for foodies, but agrees it gets excessive—“if that's all they're doing throughout dinner, it's a little obnoxious.” (09:25)
• Etiquette Suggestion: Both hosts agree: either explain what’s cool or keep it for your group text. “If you know, you know does not spell inclusive. It spells ‘only you know.’” — Bryan (08:14)
• On Comments: When someone asks, “What is that?” and the poster replies, “You had to be there,” the hosts agree that’s even worse—“It’s totally rude.” (08:04–08:07)

2. The Psychology and Performative Aspect of Social Media

From 12:31

• Over-portraying Experiences: Krissy notes, “There's a lot of portraying things to be better than they are on social media.” (13:05)
• Bryan’s Reflection: Admits some of his anger might come from FOMO or jealousy, but still declares, “IYKYK is over. It’s done.” (11:23)
• Subtweeting and Passive-Aggressiveness: Hosts link IYKYK posts to subtweeting after breakups—sending coded messages to exes or frenemies.

3. The Logan Paul/Mike Tyson Fight and Tour Announcements

15:19 – 18:03

• Boxing News: Discuss the Tyson-Paul fight postponement and their own tour date confusion—embracing “commercial break” chaos.
• Self-Deprecation: “We’re the gang that can’t shoot straight.” — Bryan (17:39)
• Update on TCB Live: Tour dates are in flux, highlighting the unpredictability of live event planning.

4. Fictional Attraction & Objectophilia

20:33 – 27:43

• What is Fictionsexuality? Bryan introduces the term: people attracted to fictional characters, e.g., a Japanese man marrying his anime doll.
• Objectophilia Examples: They recall previous show episodes about people “in love” with roller coasters, fences, or monuments (Eiffel Tower).
  • “I love when you get your fluids all over me. I can feel you’re getting excited.” — Bryan, recalling the roller coaster episode (23:14)
• Social Evolution: Is this newfound openness, or just more visibility? “Are we evolving right in front of our own eyes?” — Bryan (26:15)

5. Disney Pricing, FastPass Rant & Inflation

27:43 – 41:16

• Disney Pricing: Bryan details the steep markup in Disney vacations (47–58% increase since 2017), and the increasingly complex, expensive FastPass/Genie+/Lightning Lane system.
• Corporate Strategy: Speculates that Disney is intentionally pricing out the “wrong kind of crowds” to cater to luxury clients.
  • “They have made it so f***ing expensive to go to Disney… that now it’s almost priced me out. And I’m a multi, multi, multi-time visitor.” — Bryan (32:55)
  • Krissy: “Well, they should have some kind of loyalty maybe...” (33:10)
• On Corporate Greed: Extension of the argument to wider consumer goods—smaller package sizes, higher prices, less value.
• Arizona Tea Example: Bryan shouts out the Arizona Tea CEO, who refuses to raise prices, calling him “a hero.” (41:16)

6. Steve-O’s Planned Boob Job

43:04 – 46:27

• Steve-O (of ‘Jackass’) reportedly planning to get breast implants for a hidden-camera stunt—he’ll keep them for two months.
  • “I want to know more about that night with Mike Tyson. I want to see your boobs in action.” — Bryan (46:11)
• Hosts poke fun but voice curiosity and concern over Steve-O’s recovery.

7. Taylor Swift vs. Scooter Braun: Documentary Discussion

47:32 – 54:40

• Doc on Max: Bryan recommends “Taylor vs. Scooter,” which covers the master recordings dispute between Taylor Swift and music exec Scooter Braun.
• Contract Reality: Lays out the basics—standard practice for record labels to own the master recordings; debate centers on whether Taylor was given a chance to buy them or not.
• Media Spin: Recognizes the power of PR, public narrative, and the complexity of contract disputes.
  • “Maybe you should take a look… a fascinating look at perspective and press and motivating an audience.” — Bryan (49:28)
• On Taylor’s Power Move: Notes that Taylor’s “Taylor’s Version” albums have outsold the originals.
• Recommendation: Bryan tells listeners to check out the doc to make up their own minds.

8. Closing Tangents & Signature TCB Chaos

54:40 – End

• Back to the IYKYK Bit:
  “Let them know you don’t know and you don’t care if they know.” — Bryan (55:09)
• Tour Dates: Promising chaotic, “fluid” planning right up to the moment of live shows.
• Stickers & Listener Engagement: Promoting free stickers, social media engagement, and audience outreach.

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• “If you take a picture next to Oprah and you say, ‘if you know, you know,’ then, f*** yeah… But if you take a picture of your food… No, I don’t know!” — Bryan (02:47)
• “You had to be there.” “That’s rude.” — Krissy (08:04–08:07)
• “If you know, you know does not spell inclusive. It spells ‘only you know.’” — Bryan (08:14)
• “IYKYK is over. It’s done. We don’t need to do that anymore.” — Bryan (11:23)
• “It's like when you break up with your girlfriend and then you post something just for her... just for her.”— Bryan (14:10)
• “They have made it so f***ing expensive to go to Disney… you are now almost pricing me out.” — Bryan (32:55)
• “If you’re not hurting anybody, who the f*** cares who you're in love with?” — Bryan (22:16)

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Major Timestamps

• 00:14–11:43: Main IYKYK rant and breakdown of social media behavior
• 20:33–27:43: Fictional attraction, objectophilia, and evolving social norms
• 27:43–41:16: In-depth Disney price and experience ramp-up, inflation tangent
• 43:04–46:27: Steve-O’s planned breast augmentation story
• 47:32–54:40: Taylor Swift/Scooter Braun documentary, music industry contracts
• 55:09–End: Rapid-fire callbacks, listener engagement, and show wrap-up

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Takeaway

The episode is a lively, wide-ranging roast of modern social media posturing and pop culture exclusivity. Bryan and Krissy lampoon the idea of private “in-crowds” online, gripe about Disney’s cash grabs, marvel at odd love stories (both literal and figurative), and remind listeners to stay skeptical and laugh at the fleeting rules of cool. The tone is snarky, irreverent, and delightfully chaotic—very much "the Cheesecake Factory of comedy podcasts.”

Transcript

[A]

And, baby, if I'm in a bad mood, this is your big toe. Just put it in my mouth very deep into my throat.

[B]

Down your throat.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And so she shuts up.

[A]

Yeah, it's like a pacifier in my mouth. I love it so much.

[B]

True love. On this episode of the commercial break, don't feel your fucking post with stuff and then say if you know, you know, as if you're running around with some secret group of, you know, like, Elon Musk, Joe Rogan, and, you know, President Obama are running around in some limousine, you know, in San Diego, taking you to special restaurants that only certain people know about. Like, I'm not allowed to talk about a Secret Service said sign an NDA. Yeah, I signed 12 NDAs. Come on, please don't do that. The next episode of the commercial break starts now. Yeah. Cats and kittens, welcome back to the commercial break. I'm Brian Green. This is the Camela to Mike Trump, Kristen Joy Hoadley. Best to you, Chrissy.

[A]

Best to you, Brian.

[B]

Best to you out there in the podcast universe. How the hell are you? Thanks for joining us on yet another episode, the commercial run, the only one you ever need. Fact, fiction. I have to tell you that I'm getting really annoyed with a particular thing that people do on social media. And because I spend so much of my time digging into that stupid Instagram and TikTok to find content for the show. There is this thing that I've noticed that people do, and there's a couple people that I know specifically, like, follow them. They follow me. And it's driving me crazy because I don't get the point. And it's starting to get just a little bit obnoxious, if you know what I mean. And that is if you know, you know, if you know, you know, I weigh I, I y k, y k or something like that, right? Let's talk about if you know, you know, if you know, you know is your way of telling the world that you're doing something much cooler than they are and that only the cool kids know what that is. You're taking random pictures of, like, a location or a food or a person or a shoe or whatever and putting that stupid I K, Y D K Y n Y, whatever that is the bottom of your post. Can we forget about that? Because all you're doing is just, like, perpetuating this cliquish that we can all just get over now because it's 2024 and we don't need it. It's like, you know, something that we don't know. Congratulations. You know something that we don't know.

[A]

Inside you've got a little group.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That knows about things.

[B]

If you take a picture ne picture next to Oprah Winfrey and you say, if you know, you know, then fuck yeah. If you know, you know. Because we all know it's Oprah Winfrey and why the fuck are you standing next to her? Right. That's a good one. But if you take a picture of your food and then you put the place that you're at and you say, if you know, you know. No, I don't know because I don't live in your fucking state and I have no idea what you're eating and it looks gross anyway. And why are you taking the time out of your day to take a picture of what you're eating before you eat it? This most obnoxious thing in the world. You're not a food journalist. You're a person on the Internet trying to be a person of influence. Just like we are here at the commercial break. And I have never said the words, if you know, you know. That's it. I'm done. I'm so sick of if you know, you know. Chrissy.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

I realize it was bothering you.

[B]

It's really bothering me. And this is one person, this one.

[A]

That comes down to the one.

[B]

It does always come down to the one person who's just abusing it so much. And I mean, I see it on so many posts that I'm sure other people are also abusing it, but. Because when I see that stupid if you know, you know, shit, I have to click on the post. Then Instagram serves me up more of their fucking posts. And it seems like every other post is if you know, you know, if you know, you know, if you know, you know. It's a group of her and her and 12 friends. If you know, you know. I guess I missed out. Oh, no. What am I to do, right? I have to know.

[A]

Yeah. What do we need to know?

[B]

Yeah, and then people will respond with like, lol. Wild. Oh, yeah. Was it cares? Then put a picture of the wild shit. That's what I gotta say. Take. Give me a picture and then I'll know. Tops off, tits out, ass up and booze, you know, strippers with big dicks. That's what I want to see. Then I'll go, oh, I guess if you know, you know, you were. That's interesting. I wish I would have been there. If you know, you know is the most pompous thing to Put on Instagram post or a TikTok post, or God forbid you use Facebook anymore. That's not my grandma. But any, any social media. Because you're just saying you're better than everybody else because you know and they don't. And if you know, then you're in the click, and if you don't, then you're out of the click. And God forbid you ask a question on the comments section. You know, it's like, you know, right?

[A]

What did I miss?

[B]

Oh, my God, Chris. There's this one person who does this like every other post, right? And so over the holiday weekend, I was, you know, laying in bed because of the way that my dad's house is set up. We have to separate rooms because there isn't really beds for everybody. So me and Astrid and I have to sleep with. With kids. Right? And so that's fine. Whatever. For one or two nights. That's okay. I'm sure Astrid enjoys the break. And so I got. My. My son is in bed with me and he goes to sleep at like, you know, 8:30. Well, my body clock doesn't shut down until 10:30 at least, because I'm always here in this fucking stupid studio looking at Instagram posts, looking for if you.

[A]

Know, you know, what do I need to know?

[B]

What do I need to know? So I see that stupid if you know, you know, and I click on the. The post, and this is what it is. Are you ready for this?

[A]

I think so.

[B]

It is a picture of a building, and it's tagged the city that that building is in. And it says, if you think I'm fucking Google Maps, you think I know what the fuck you're talking about? I don't live in the same state. I don't Certainly don't live in the same city. And I don't care about that stupid old building. But you're putting it there as if we should all know what it is, or else we're not on the inside track.

[A]

Well, you know what? That. Here's the deal is if. If it's a small group of people only that know about it, then just do a group text to those people.

[B]

That's it.

[A]

And say, look where I was. Yeah, this awesome building.

[B]

Since you all remember this. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. You know where this is?

[B]

Yes. It should say, like, you know, since we all know. Yeah. I took a picture of the White House, the Egyptian pyramids, the palace of Versailles, not some random building in some Podung town in the middle of nowhere. And you expect that everybody's supposed to know. Now, I realize that you might just be putting this out to a very small audience and I get that. I understand. But this is not that person's thing. That person's thing is to be, you know, an influencer. Fucking stupid. So someone has the balls in the comments to ask, what is that? I don't live there. What is that? And the response was, you had to be there.

[A]

Oh, God.

[B]

Oh, my God. If there was a worse statement to make, thank you. It had to be there. You had to be there. It was a while. We had dinner and two glasses of wine, and Betty shit herself. We spent the next 30 minutes apologizing to the waiter. Had to clean it up. It was wild. Wild. She had gastrointestinitis and we had to take her to the hospital. I mean, come on, guys, stop. Don't do it. You're just perpetuating the stupid shit on the Internet.

[A]

You had to be there.

[B]

You had to be there.

[A]

That's rude.

[B]

It's totally rude. It's totally rude.

[A]

Yeah. If you put that. If you know, you know, then you at least have to explain what everybody else doesn't know.

[B]

Someone asks. This is followed by a post, right? And I'll say this. I'll say this. The crypto community is like. Is like loosely wrapped up in this, right? And then there's entire posts about how the crypto community is one of welcoming and inclusivity and, you know, thank God. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. If you know, you know does not spell inclusive. It spells only, you know, and so that makes you important. Stop it, please. Can we please stop this? Because you're making everybody else feel less than for no reason. No one knows about that building. But then there's food shots. Do you know the most obnoxious. The second most obnoxious thing in the world is. Is sitting at a dinner and someone says, let me get a shot of my plate before I eat for insta. I gotta talk this. Okay, bro, Cool. I thought we were here to enjoy dinner conversation and have fun with each other. No, I didn't realize we were on your food blog. All of a sudden, no one cares what you're eating. Have you ever looked at a meal that someone posted on socials and really given a. What they're eating?

[A]

Sometimes.

[B]

Oh, my God, Chrissy.

[A]

But I'm a foodie and I like food stuff. I'm okay with somebody taking a quick picture. It does, you know, if that's all they're doing throughout the whole dinner, then with each thing is Taking pictures. That's. That's a little obnoxious. Yes, but, you know, I do like food stuff.

[B]

We had a friend.

[A]

Right, but you can't. Are you saying that this person also said, if you know, you know about the food?

[B]

That's what. That's what was. Said that's what was.

[A]

Why don't you say what. What it is? Describe it. It looks beautiful.

[B]

It was like a nebulous gelatin blob with, like, you know, smoke coming off of it. So you're at one of those places where you're paying way too much money. It doesn't taste good anyway. Right. But it was like, you know, if you know, you know. No, I don't know because you don't even tell us where the you are. So what, you were just supposed to guess based on this plate of nebulous jello, this brown jello, what you're eating, where you're at, and then we're supposed to imagine in our minds how cool it would be if we could only go there, too, but you're the special one that gets to go there. So stupid. So stupid. Please stop that. And if you're doing it and you don't mean to be, you know, rude about it and you're not trying to be one of those people, then just know that it's passe. Now I've decided.

[A]

Brian's decided it should be used close to the vest, at least sparingly.

[B]

Sparingly, yeah. Chrissy's right about this, you know, she should do start a WhatsApp group or group text. Yeah. And then say if you know, you know, because I know you know. Or then explain what you're doing to people who give a shit about what you're doing. Don't fill your fucking posts with stuff. And then say if you know, you know, as if you're running around with some secret group of, you know, like Elon Musk, Joe Rogan, and, you know, President Obama are running around in some limousine, you know, in San Diego, taking you to special restaurants that only certain people know about. Like, I'm not allowed to talk about a Secret Service said sign an NDA. Yeah, I signed 12 NDAs. Come on, please don't do that. It's so silly. It's so silly. And maybe I have fomo and maybe this is just jealousy on my part. Maybe I should reflect on why I'm getting so upset about this. But I decided over the weekend that. That I K Y D K A Y. Whatever the fuck it says, it. That shit is Over. It's done. We don't need to do that anymore. Let's just say where we are. Say why it was cool.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

And we'll all get to enjoy it with you.

[A]

Say this was this amazing course that I had. This is what the ingredients were and you should try it. Everyone should go if you're in that city.

[B]

I agree. And be nice. You know, in my advanced age, I don't post too much. My advanced age.

[A]

No. I decided the other day that my social media is my group or my group text.

[B]

That's it. Right. You gotta just keep it, you gotta keep it slim and keep it small. I don't care about posting anymore. I really don't. But on the rare occasion that I post something in my private social medias where it's like, about my family or maybe, maybe we're taking a trip and I see, I take a pretty picture and I'm like, hey, check this out. We're in, you know, Barcelona and I saw this building. But I don't put. Because, you know, who knows? The four people who are with me, that's who knows.

[A]

That's it.

[B]

That's the only people who know because they were there with me.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

So why am I.

[A]

You had to be there.

[B]

Yeah. You had to be there. Had to be there. That was a dumb saying in the first place, but I mean, I can understand why it was funny for a minute, but then you had to be there. Well, you didn't invite me. Right. There's a reason why I wasn't there because you didn't include me. So automatically I feel shitty that I didn't show up at the party of the year and then you gotta remind me because I had to be there. Well, I guess we can't turn back the clock now.

[A]

I know. Well, again, I tend to think that there's a lot of portraying things to be better than they are.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

On social media.

[B]

No, I think that's exactly what it is, you know? Yes.

[A]

It adds another layer of mystery.

[B]

I think that's exactly what it is, Chrissy. I think that, that the people who do this with frequency, who do it with like, intention, right?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Not like, you know, and I don't want to like cast dispersions upon everybody. Ever used the phrase? Because there are some certain circumstances where I could see that would be cool. Like you take a picture at the super bowl and you're like, if you know, you know. Well, we all know you're at the Super Bowl. Congratulations. Right. But if you're taking pictures of Random shit. And it's really meant for one person. It's like. And I. I think I have been guilty of this maybe once or twice in the past. It's like when you break up with your girlfriend and then you post something just for her. Yeah, just for her. Right. It says, you know, like, if. If. If your woman doesn't love you with. If your woman doesn't bring you coffee in the morning and rub your feet at night, she's not worth having. Right. You know what I'm saying? You know, like the shit posting that you do, of course, to get somebody else riled up. Like, I think I've been guilty of that.

[A]

Maybe that's what this person is doing.

[B]

Maybe that's what this person is doing. But in that case, then you really don't need to take to the socials for that. Just text them. Just text them. Or text their best friend or text their new girlfriend or whatever it is. Text them. And that way you can just get to the point. You can cut out all the middlemen. You get to the point. You don't sound like such a fucking snob on the socials. Which is the. Which is really what it makes you sound like. A snobbery. A snob who's too good to be with the regular people. So I'm going to post a bunch of stuff. Cool shit that I'm doing that makes me better than you are. And even though that may not be what's going through your brain at the moment, that is part of what's going through your brain. It's part of the process. Part of the process is, let me make all the haters feel bad by posting this wonderful thing that I'm doing and saying if, you know. You know, as if. Yeah, like I said, as if, you know, the fucking. Who are those two? Who? Those two. As if Logan Paul threw a party and you were the only one invited. Good old Logan Paul. Well, I'll get off my high horse now. Good old Logan Paul. Speaking of Logan Paul that, you know, I was looking forward to that Tyson fight.

[A]

Yeah. What happened?

[B]

It was supposed to be on Sunday. I think it was July 7th. It was supposed to be on that night Live on Netflix.

[A]

Who backed out?

[B]

No, Tyson backed out. He didn't back out. He paused because he had. He got some kind of injury, and so he paused. The doctors were like, no, you can't do this right now. You got to wait a couple months. So apparently the Paul brother is waiting for.

[A]

So it's still on Dyson, to be.

[B]

Better it's still on. It's just there's not been a new date set yet. But I was really excited about that fight because I figured.

[A]

I know we said we were going to do a little watch party and everything.

[B]

Yeah, I will. Once. Once it. Once it comes out. Well, thank God we didn't do the watch party on July 7th. No one would have been watching, and.

[A]

I wasn't in sound.

[B]

I would have had my head in the toilet and Chrissy would have been on an airplane. So there you go.

[A]

It was meant to be.

[B]

It just wasn't. Thanks, Tyson, for delaying the fight, but I really wanted to see Tyson get back in the ring.

[A]

I did, too. Yeah.

[B]

Not, you know, not so he could bite anybody's ear off or anything like that, but so that we could see what kind of shape Tyson was in and then see how hard he was going to hit this ball, which just would have been great. I mean, honestly, it would have been great. I think it still will happen. There's too much money involved and all the players are in the right place.

[A]

You know, they've announced it.

[B]

They've announced.

[A]

Like we've announced our dates.

[B]

Yeah, it's kind of the same thing. We press pause. Hold on one second. Hold on one second. I didn't mean to say that. Okay, let me share a little bit so that we don't get. So we get a bunch of. I know we're going to get a bunch of people that are texting us and calling us. We got some dates from our promoter. We were negotiating those dates. They seemed secure, but when we finally decided to, like, actually pull the trigger, apparently those dates had shifted with the club, so it wasn't really our fault. But the club. The club had something else, and we just. They. Someone else got to it first, essentially. So now we believe we're still going to be in Orlando, in the Orlando and South Florida area. And we believe that will still be in the fall. We just don't know the exact dates yet. So we said September 25th in Orlando and September 26th in Tampa. That Tampa date is definitely not happening right now, but we think we might still be in Orlando on the 25th. But we got two months before that's going to happen. So just settle down. We'll figure it out. We don't all need to get crazy. It's a commercial break. It's. You knew this was going to go wrong in some way, shape or form.

[A]

Yeah, it's. So the commercial.

[B]

That's right. We're the gang that can't shoot straight. Okay? That's just the way it is. To the best efforts of our agents and the promoters and everybody else, Chrissy and Brian did something wrong that caused problems. Oh. And what we mainly did wrong was come on here and announce it before we could actually sign contract.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

I thought it was a done deal. I was like, cool, we'll sign the contract. What do you tell us? We'll sign the contract. And they were like, no, we sent it to you, so you should have signed it. But now that you didn't sign it, we thought, well, get somebody else to do it. Very classic, classic, classic. Stay classy, tcb. Stay classy. All right, so let's take a break. Lots more to talk about. Man, is there lots to talk about?

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

I mean, I feel like when we left, there was like 30 things we should have been talking about that week. But now we're back for a couple weeks and so let's. Let's take a break and then we'll get to some of that. Some of the stuff from two weeks ago. All right, we'll be back. Hi.

[C]

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[B]

Wah wah we wah wah wah we wah. So just to let you know why we're set, why I'm saying wah wah we wah is because Chrissy and I are recording this probably about five days before you'll hear it. Five or six days before you hear it because that's our recording schedule. That's how we record. And we're watching the TV in the background. So this is going to be old news by the time that you hear it. But watch the tv. Classic, classic commercial Break. Classic tcv. You heard it here last. And we're just watching all the drama about Biden and Harris and all this stuff, and we're seeing some breaking news, and we're like, wow, okay. All right, well, that's happening by this time next week. Well, now it might not be the Biden Harris campaign. It might be the Harris Biden campaign. You never know. All right, so we'll see how that all goes. I wanted to tell you about something that I. I read about, and I just had no idea that this even existed. Do you know what fiction sexual is? It's exactly what it sounds like. Fiction sexual. Yeah.

[A]

You mean like books? Like fiction?

[B]

No, you know. You know, people are, like, homosexual, were bisexual or pansexual. Oh. Or heterosexual. There is fixed sexual. I'm. I'm actually truncating the word fixexual. I'm making it into a new word. Fix sexual. Fiction sexual is someone who's attracted to a fictional character, like an anime character or a television cartoon character. Something.

[A]

I can see that. I feel like we've. In our 6,000 episodes. I feel like we've covered this maybe before on, like, a TLC show. We have something.

[B]

We have covered fan fanfic, which is fan fiction.

[A]

Yeah. That was turned sexual. That turned sex with dragons. And one thing we.

[B]

We were reading it. They were having sex with whales and, like, dolphins.

[A]

Right.

[B]

That was a great episode. Actually. I thought it to be very funny. I was reading pages of people's fanfic, their sexual fanfic.

[A]

So this is a person that identifies with only being attracted to fictional characters. Okay.

[B]

But I believe for the first time, maybe in history, and I don't know this, but I think that's because it's coming on social media. Like, I don't want to say it. I don't know that it's true, but supposedly, first time in history, someone married an anime character. Oh, I married an anime doll. A guy in Japan. Did you see that?

[A]

I did.

[B]

He married an anime doll, like a doll that he was so in love with the fictional character that he decided he wanted to take it all the way and make a commitment. I didn't know she was going anywhere. She's your doll, dude. Yeah. I mean, that's the perfect marriage, I guess. You just put her in your bed and let her hang out.

[A]

I don't know how that works.

[B]

I don't know either. It's gonna make dating kind of hard, but, man, it's. There's all kinds, and I don't disagree with it. Like if you're in love with an anime character you're in love with, if you're not hurting anybody, who the fuck cares who you're in love with. Exactly. Or what you're in love with or how you're in love with them.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

But I do.

[A]

I do.

[B]

But as a guy who gets interested in things. Right. And wants to dig around, I just wonder what the minutia of that all is. It's like the car. The guy who was attracted to the car.

[A]

I feel like it's similar to that that we did.

[B]

We've done a guy who. Who tune it two episodes now. Like a.

[A]

There was a person that was in love with the roller coaster.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

In love with the fence.

[B]

Knock 3,000. Knock 3,000. 3,000. Was licking the. The oil. Like the grease. She was licking it. And she's like, I love when you get your fluids all over me. I can feel you're getting excited. And I was like, oh, my God. She's actually. And this is the funniest thing.

[A]

So maybe it's better than that then.

[B]

A little bit.

[A]

Yeah. Because at least it's a. It's a. A character.

[B]

It's a representation of a human being.

[A]

Yeah, it's a representation of a human.

[B]

I guess it's a step up from knock 3000.

[A]

Yeah. From the coaster. Coaster love.

[B]

I don't know if you remember this, just to sidetrack for a little bit, but on that Knock 3000 video we watched, this girl was in love with a roller coaster. She had never. Or she. She had or hadn't. Or never met the roller coaster in person. So for some strange reason, the amusement park let her in the door. In the off season. It was, like, all boarded up and.

[A]

You know, gray outside.

[B]

Gray outside. It was raining. And she brought another objecta file. That's what they call themselves, objecta files. They are in love with objects. And there was another objective file who she had befriended, and they both went to Germany, and the one girl was making out with the roller coaster. And the camera swung around and the girl was humping the fence.

[A]

She was up on the fence. I know. I remember that.

[B]

She's like. She had married a lamp. But then she's like, I don't know. I hate cheating.

[A]

But, yeah.

[B]

So in love with this fence. She was, like, doing it up.

[A]

She had r. I remember that was. It's wild.

[B]

I still laugh every time I think about that because the camera literally swung around and she's humping the fence.

[A]

Yeah. She was, like, riding it.

[B]

Yeah. It had like slats.

[A]

Yes, it did.

[B]

It was weird.

[A]

I know. I thought maybe that would hurt.

[B]

I knew it would hurt. But you know, hey, pain is pleasure.

[A]

The guy with the car and the guy with the other ones. So was it like a violins or something?

[B]

Someone married the Paris, Someone married the Eiffel Tower. I think we talked about that one, but they got divorced for some reason.

[A]

Didn't work out.

[B]

Didn't work out. The distance was too much. Yeah, it was like an American lady that married the. And she was like the first out objective file. Right. You never heard about this in the fifties and sixties. I mean you barely heard about homosexuality in the fifties and sixties. But I wonder if this is like a new thing with human beings, that we're finding a capacity to have love in different ways, in different places, with different things, objects, people in different ways, shapes and forms. Or if this has always been going on to some degree and now there's just the comfort to talking about it. Like, you know, I wonder if my grandma was like, you know, humping the chandelier.

[A]

Really into Mickey Mouse in the early days. Yeah, really into Mickey Mouse.

[B]

I have a kid who's really into Mickey Mouse. I haven't found him humping it yet, but you know, but he's at the age appropriate Mickey Mouse loving stage, you know what I'm saying? So. But yeah, it just, it just makes me curious. Were there people in my grandma's day who would like were objectified? I'm sure there had to have been at least one or two.

[A]

There had to.

[B]

But you know, in the video I do remember them saying like there was only like 80 people in the world who had been identified with this particular condition. And you know, it just, just it's. Are we evolving fast right in front of our own eyes was like my question.

[A]

I think so.

[B]

I mean, I think so too.

[A]

Technology is advancing so quickly too.

[B]

Yeah. We have access to so much information.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. And I mean, and so much fantasy.

[B]

Yeah. And with so many different pictures of knock 3000, how could you not want to stick your dick in it? I mean, I'm just saying. And listen, I. Again, honestly, we have fun with it, but I'm not here to talk down to anybody. If you're not hurting anybody, who cares if you're in love with a roller coaster as long as you're not making the line any longer? That's all I give a about.

[A]

Right.

[B]

That's all I give a about.

[A]

Yeah, that's true. I mean, I think it is where there's just so much. There's so much more acceptance.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Of. Of so many different types of love and identifications of how we humans are identifying ourselves. So I think it makes people more comfortable. And there's so many more options. So I think it's the convulgence. Is that it?

[B]

The convergence. The convergence or the convergence? I think that's more like a seizure.

[A]

But I know. I was trying to. I was doing my fingers.

[B]

Fair enough. I do it all the time. You're doing the church and steeple.

[A]

Church and steeple. When they come together.

[B]

When you come together. Here's the people. So, on a side note, talking about long lines. I'm gonna talk about Disney for a second. So we're just talking about Mickey and long lines. So Disney. And I know we have Disney fans out there because, of course, there are hundreds of millions of Disney fans.

[A]

You guys are big Disney fans.

[B]

Yes, we're big fans of the Disney brand as a. As a whole. As an idea. Right. But I also understand that the brand is a company, and the company is not a person. And that person doesn't give a. About anything except making. So I'm not dumb to think that there's some magic in this brand. There is magic in the Disney brand, but there's not magic behind the company's not magical. It can't. It can't make investors stop asking for more money. It can't stop, you know, activist investors from trying to control board seats and all this other stuff. And there's a lot of drama that's going on behind and has been for at least since the pandemic started, if not before, since they hired that nudnik as the CEO of the company, who really did a lot of damage to the brand, in my opinion. But now this guy who's in charge now is not doing much better. Here's what I want to say about long lines and Disney. So it's. It is in. It is. There is a 47 to 58% markup from 2017 to 2024 in pricing in a Disney vacation. And they are finding ways to get you every single inch that you move. They're pushing you to buy merchandise. They're making you pay for transportation that used to be free. They used to make you pay for years. They were making you pay for parking in front of the hotel. 50 bucks a day.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

In front of the house.

[A]

Hotels is right anywhere.

[B]

Yeah. And you have to valet park. And it's a hundred dollars a day, really, to have a guy drive my car downstairs is a Hundred dollars.

[A]

Jeff and I really now kind of weigh that out. When we go on different vacations, I'm like, well, renting or just doing it. Yeah, that's less than me.

[B]

And wants a car.

[A]

Every time he likes to go the car route. Yeah. But I end up convincing him. And then it's like, well, we don't have to do the whole. Yeah, parking.

[B]

Yeah, no, no, I'm, I'm starting to get to that point too. But you know, and so, and, and now Disney has Disney. You must understand this at some level, if you've ever been there. Used to have a program called the Fast Pass program. Like a lot of places do. It used to be 100 free. If you booked a vacation with them and you got a ticket to the parks, you could access fast passes first in person by going to the park and pulling an actual ticket. That would give you a time to return where you could use the Fast Pass lane so you didn't have to stand in a one hour line. That was the max type of line you would ever see at Disney was an hour. That was crazy. If it was an hour long, you were like, oh my God, an hour. 30 to 40 minutes was like the best rides had 30 to 40 minutes. That FastPass system, while clunky, worked like a charm.

[A]

Six Flags had it too.

[B]

Yes. And then Disney decided in their infinite wisdom that they would put this all online, which was fine, but it changed the, the game, the rules of the game a little bit in the sense that if you planned a Disney vacation now you would have to go online depending on where you were staying. If you were staying inside the park 60 days ahead of time, if you just had park tickets 30 days ahead of time to get your fast passes. And it became a mad scramble at 6am in the morning, every morning when they released those passes to get.

[A]

I can imagine.

[B]

Okay, but okay, at least you had, you know, if you're a planner, then that felt good to you. If you weren't a planner, you'd pick a couple rides and just say, okay, we'll be there at these certain times and we can do whatever else we want. Then there was still some spontaneity in the whole experience of going down to a park and by all accounts at that point, the best theme park on in Earth. Right? Disney World. And during the pandemic, in their yet even more infinite wisdom, with Bob Nunnik Chapek at the helm, they decided that they were going to make Fast passes and their app a premium experience, meaning you had to pay for it $20 to get the app and then additional money to get rides on the app. Wow. Yes. And then they decided to do on demand pricing, which means as the demand ebbs and flows, they can charge much, charging as much up to 25 per person per ride for like a minute and a half experience. 25 on top of the 500 that you've already paid to get in the park, have food, get merchandise, and now you got to pay an extra 25 per person, family of five or six. That's hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of dollars extra a day. The resort hotels get blander and blander and more expensive and more expensive every single year, if not every single three months. And it's just they have almost priced us out of a Disney vacation and it.

[A]

I'm sure they priced a lot of people out.

[B]

I think that's what they wanted to do. I think that was part of the strategy. If we're going to be real honest, and I'm sure no one would ever be this honest, but if we're being really honest, they don't care. Because the parks were getting very crowded and maybe it was the type of crowd they didn't care about. They only wanted the premium customer inside. They only wanted the people who could afford to drop 20 grand on a week long vacation at Disney World and have that kind of customer spending their extra money at their, you know, gift shops and restaurants. Okay, that's a strategy. Not my favorite one, but it's a strategy. But they have made it so fucking expensive to go to Disney, so expensive to go to Disney World that now it's almost priced me the multi, multi, multi time visitor of your, of your parks and experiences. The, the guy who spent a ton of money on going down there as a kid and as an adult and with my children. You are now almost pricing me out.

[A]

Of it because multi, multi, multi hundred dollar air.

[B]

Yes, oh yes. You're almost priced a hundred dollar air out of the experience. And I'm a little bit. Well, no, they fluffed up about.

[A]

Well, they should have some kind of loyalty maybe for this.

[B]

They don't give a.

[A]

People that have been coming for so.

[B]

Long, they don't give a. Because every other part of their business is not doing well.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And so the only part of the business that makes money is their parks and they're trying to squeeze as much as many dollars out of every head that comes in the park as they possibly can. And so they're making ever. They used to have free transportation from the airport to the hotels. That no longer happens. Now you have to pay for it. The everything, everything costs.

[A]

Pay for every little thing.

[B]

Yeah. Do you remember when you were little and you would go to the carnival or, or even a theme park and you would go to the eve. This used to happen at Disney, my first time at Disney. You would have to buy a certain ticket type to get on certain types of rides. So you pay like $10 to get in the park. And then if you wanted to go on the, what they would call, you know, a rides, right. You would pay an extra $10 and that would get you on all Space Mountain or whatever the in demand rides were. And when you used to go to theme parks around the country, you would pay a flat rate, $5, $10 to get in the door. And then you would pay for tickets, actual tickets that would, you would use on the rides. Like a carnival.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Right. Or you could buy one super pass that could get you everything that was much more expensive. And so now it's like that. But you have to pay 30 times to get on the same fucking ride. It's insane.

[A]

Well, like how would it even work? I mean, do you know how, how would it even work if you just didn't do any of that?

[B]

You would never get on a ride.

[A]

You just would walk in and try and.

[B]

Chrissy. The last go on ride. That's right.

[A]

You couldn't get there.

[B]

You couldn't, you couldn't get there. Because imagine you can't just go stand.

[A]

In line even if you did two hours.

[B]

You can, but here. Yes. Even if you did. Yes, you could go stand in line. Okay, that's a valid argument, right. Can't you just do it on the cheap and just. Or no.

[A]

I mean I just, it's not my argument. I just was asking, can you even do.

[B]

Yes, you can. But let me explain why, why this doesn't. Well, with people, with humans. Yeah, for sure. That's it. Yeah. Is that probably 70, 75 of the people that walk in that door have children or are children. And once they get there and the Florida sun is blazing down on you and you have a three hour line and it's not uncommon to see three hour lines. Now, standby lines, what they call standby lines now, while everybody else is just passing you through and here's what some people are reporting.

[A]

If you know, you know, I K.

[B]

I K D Y A M K Y.

[A]

You had to be there.

[B]

You had to be there.

[A]

You had to be there where you could actually go into the wrong.

[B]

Yeah, that's right. Fast pass just paid $700 for a 3 1/2 minute experience. If you now you.

[A]

I have to do that.

[B]

So here's the thing. If I've got my 30 kids in tow and we're all standing to get onto Space Mountain in the hot sun, 95 degrees, you're going to pay whatever you have. I'm going to pay whatever I have to because it's going to. The more I watch people go in that FastPass lane, the more I'm going to get pissed off. But the more it's going to force me to do it and the longer my kids complain and the hotter I get and the worse I feel, the more I'm going to be apt to spend the $25 per person times 35 or whatever how many people I got in my family now times 35 to get in that one ride. Or I know I will waste three hours here and then I will be three hours less of riding any other rides or doing anything else, any other experience. So they know they got you once they get in the park and they don't give a shit. And they continue to do it. And I think it's wrong. I think it's wrong headed and I think it's wrong. And there is a lot of backlash online right now about the Disney parks. There's a lot of people who blow smoke up Disney's ass because Disney gives them free things and free trips. You know, these influencers, these Disney influencers. And I guess I can't blame you, that's the way you make your living. Whatever. But you're telling a lie when you say that. Oh. And so the whole point of this is, is that Disney now announced they're going to a new iteration of the FastPass thing that is essentially the same iteration that they have right now, just packaged differently in a new name so that they can get you for even more fucking money. You get the Disney Genie and then you can get the Lightning Lane and then you get Lightning Lane plus and then you get Lightning Lane individual and then you get like. It's so confusing and confounding to use that no one understands it really. Probably not even the people who made it understand it. And it forces you all to do one thing. Press pay. Now. That's it. That's all. That's all it's made to do is make make you press pay. Now. Disney is giving you less, they're charging you more. And by the way, they haven't done a damn thing in that park in those parks in years. That's worth talking about Tron and a couple of other things that they have. If you know, you know.

[A]

Well, yeah. Didn't the Star wars thing go bad too with the hotel or something?

[B]

The hotel closed. Yes, it closed.

[A]

And it was like a really expensive thing to do, right?

[B]

$5,000 sometimes for a three day experience for two people. And you didn't even get to leave the hotel. It had no windows. You had to stay in there with fucking stormtroopers and wookies running around and pretend like you were, I don't know, had a lightsaber or something. It's the most ridiculous thing. But after six months of. After all the people who had to be there because they were so big into Star wars, got there and went there and did it, then nobody, nobody was going to. And the reason nobody was going is because they see it's an obvious ruse to do highway robbery on your fucking pocketbook and your credit card. And I'm over it. And I love you, Disney. I love your brand new. Yeah, and I've been on your cruises and they're wonderful, the premium experiences and they're well worth the money. And honestly, I will do that again. But I will not go back to your parks. I will not, I'm going to say this right now, will not go back to your parks until you change this shit up immediately. Stop it. Fast passes used to be free. Go back to it. If you want to make a special, special, special line for people who have a whole shitload of money, then do that. Make the gold, gold, gold. And make it so exorbitantly expensive that only 10 people a day will be able to afford it. Let the rest of us plebs fucking figure it out by paying you the normal $5,000 a day we were paying you in the first place to go to your fucking parks and stay at your hotels. It's getting asinine. The way the inflation to me is not about supply and demand. Yes, I think some of that is at play. It's about companies and corporations wanting more to give you less. And this is a really shiny example of that. This is like the diamond amongst diamonds is Disney. And they're suffering online. Many people who are fans of their company not doing that. And there are many other brands, companies, grocery stores, gas stations, you name it, they're doing it. That's what inflation really is. Inflation is a cash grab and it's going on at an epic level and has been for at least two years and it still continues. And yes, I know that there are Market forces at work. I'm not dumb, but I'm also not smart enough to understand all those market forces. But what I do understand is when I go to the grocery store to get my cream and I have to buy a half cream, like a half box of cream, right? For the same price two years ago that I was paying for the same cream. I know those cows aren't asking for more money. Do you know what I'm saying? There's not less cows in the United States. There aren't. So why is it more expensive? I don't know. Is that it's just because. Because the cream company decided everybody else is charging more. We should be in on the gig. And it pisses me off. Stop it. Let's get real. Everyone's hurting a little bit. Or a lot of people are hurting, right? It's hard to raise a family in America right now. Let's drop the prices. Let's do that. You know that guy? You don't know this guy. There's a. There's a guy.

[A]

And now I'm not in the know.

[B]

Yeah, you're not in the know. And now I can't remember who. Oh, T. Arizona T, Arizona T. The CEO did a recent interview where he said, I will not. My. My products still cost whatever it is, A$99. They have for 10 years, though. And as long as I'm in control of this company and the company is making a profit, it will be $1.99. Everyone is hurting out there, and I don't see the need to just raise prices for the sake of raising prices. I don't need to raise prices. My building's paid off. My employees love me. My employees love the company I work for. And I'm making plenty of money. I'm not raising prices. I don't care what that guy's politics are. That guy is a hero to me because he is doing the right fucking thing. Disney, could you see your way fit to have a conversation with the guy from Arizona to. His teas are lovely. I've only had two, but I remember they were good.

[A]

Yeah, they are good. Yeah. Well, everything's so top heavy now, too, with all of the executives making trillions, billions, whatever, and it's just all about the profit. So.

[B]

And that CEO guy, you know, Iger, he's back and, you know, whatever. Whatever he's doing, you know, he's paying billion, billions and billions of dollars in stocks and bonds and all that other stuff to run the company. And he could write the ship. He could do the right thing.

[A]

Yeah. You were excited when he got in.

[B]

I was. I was really excited when Bob Chapek laughed and they brought back. I thought, okay, now everyone's going to settle down a little bit. He's going to make some things right. He did. He took away the parking fees. He took away the parking fees. And he took away the parking fees from all three hotels. So there you go. All right, I'll stop bitching. Let's take a break, and when we come back, I want to talk a little Taylor Swift for you. I know Christina loves when I talk about Taylor Swift, so let's make her happy today. And yeah. Yeah, we'll be back.

[C]

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[B]

Whoa. That's insane. Okay, breaking news. Probably not breaking at all, actually. I think I saw this a couple of weeks ago. I thought it was a joke.

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

That's okay. That's crazy. All right, so listen, we just read, which I think we have. No, I think I may have figured out a while ago. I saw it. I thought it was a joke. Steve O. Is getting a actual boob job. Is that real? I don't read that story on air. Here. Together. Us.

[A]

Well, it's on page six, so it must be.

[B]

It must be real. Stevo. Okay, page six. Stevo will do anything for a laugh, including getting plastic surgery. The jackass star, who is 50, revealed on the X5 podcast Wednesday that he is planning to undergo breast augmentation. I came up with the idea a few years ago to get a boob job and just film a bunch of legitimately funny hidden camera pranks with me in disguise. In various disguises. And then revealing who I actually am. And just funny endurance stunts. And what endurance stunts? How much you can touch your boobs, dress up like a girl, and see how long it takes for some guy to harass you at a bar. I mean, what kind of endurance stunt? I've been so particularly in love with that idea because the comedy, the opportunity for comedy, I believe it's absolutely there, and it's like quintessential Steve O.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Although the funny man is serious about getting the boob job, he will only have the implants in for two months. Okay. Before getting them removed. In fact, he's already consulted with doctors about the operation, and it's confirmed. He's getting a D. D cup.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Jesus Jones. I spoke with the doctors, and I said to them, candidly, the one thing I'm really freaked out about and bummed out about and would back out of this over is if I'm just going to be a mess afterwards, you know, it's going to completely go under the muscle. And the doctors were completely unfazed. Two months, it comes out. Absolutely no issue. Although the podcast hosts seem to have a bit. Seemed to be a bit skeptical about the plan, Steve O Assured them that he's going to do the abs. He's going to have the absolute best doctors in the world giving me gorgeous man boobs.

[A]

That's one way to. To Jesus, advertise.

[B]

Come on, man. I mean, honestly, dude, really, I don't know about this one.

[A]

You. We had him on. I did that interview.

[B]

Yeah, you didn't do that interview. You were out, unfortunately. But Tina was here, and we did that interview. It was like our third interview. It was. Quite frankly, I think I was still scared. I was scared of Stevie. But it was a big deal at the time because we're like, oh, Steve O. Will come on the show. Sure, why not? And we had a great conversation with him, and I actually, you know, I liked the guy before. I found him to be super engaging and pleasant on the show, but I think this one is a little too far. Like putting boob implants in. I mean, God bless you. You want to do what you want. Maybe he just wants to know what it's like to have boobs for a couple months, but doesn't it take you two months to recover from a boob job?

[A]

There's definitely a recovery.

[B]

There's gotta be. I mean, I know you don't know this, but I know. I get it. Yeah. But I mean, we've had friends that have gotten boob jobs. It takes months to recover, fully recover from this. So I'm wondering how much comedy he's really going to get out of it. Like, I mean, if he's got to be in bed for a month, and he's getting him out next month. You better fit a lot of comedy in that month. That's all I got to say. And if you want to come on the commercial break and show your boobs up, we're 100% about it.

[A]

Come on back.

[B]

Come on back, buddy. I want to know more about that night with Mike Tyson. I want to see your boobs in action. I bet he's still going to have the hairy nipples. So, you know, it's just going to be like a guy with man boobs, I think, is what's going to. What, it's going to be a D. Yeah.

[A]

No, a D is not really man boobs. Way bigger than man.

[B]

I mean, I've seen D boobs, but yes. I want to talk about Taylor Swift.

[A]

All right.

[B]

But I want to say one thing real quick. And I don't know that he would be listening to this show right now. And I'm not going to tell his personal business on air, but Will, the champ needs our thoughts and our thoughts. I don't want to say thoughts and prayers because I hate that saying. But he needs our thoughts and he needs our thoughts. Will is having love. Yeah, he's having a tough go of it. Sounds like he's okay. Like he's going to be okay. But I saw a post, we're friends on one of the socials, and I saw a post that he made, and it really unnerved me, actually, and I was like, oh, I hope he's going to be okay. So, Will, if you're listening or if your girl's listening, because I know that you both listen to the show, please know that you are in our thoughts.

[A]

And sending good vibes and love and everything.

[B]

I don't know if now is the right time to text you, but I will over the next couple of weeks, and I just hope that you're doing okay. Will was like a first, super, super listener. I mean, he really was. He was all over it. He was part of, you know, he was texting in the show. We were sharing content ideas and stuff like that. And we love him and he's done stuff for the show, and he's been a big, huge supporter of the show. So I hope he. I hope you're doing okay, and I hope that.

[A]

We were just talking about him a.

[B]

Couple of shows ago.

[A]

Yeah. To get him back on the show because he would know about the competitive eating.

[B]

It's absolutely crazy. And then I saw this post, it popped up, and I was just shocked. And so, Will, you know, you're strong, buddy. You're going to get through it. Okay. Taylor Swift. I don't know that you would know this, because I didn't know this, but there is a documentary on Max, I think is what it is. Yeah, it's on Max, and it's called Taylor versus Scooter.

[A]

Oh, I saw that pop up. Oh, you did my thing the other day. Yeah, I didn't watch it, but I.

[B]

Had never seen this pop up. I didn't even know that it existed because it is buried in the app. It is nowhere like, you know, you should watch this.

[A]

Or popped right up on mine.

[B]

Oh, it did. Okay. Well.

[A]

Well, yeah, because they do. They're doing these. I think it's Max. God, I get everything sitting confused now because there's. We subscribe to everything and there's so much content. But yeah, it's where they kind of break down different stories and that are happening in the news.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

They're doing it like once a month or something. And I guess this was the latest one.

[B]

This has been out for a while. I don't know, because I just. The only reason that I know about it is because I saw another, like Vodcast talking about it on the socials for a brief minute, and then I said I didn't even know that that existed. So basically what it is, is. Is it's Taylor's side and Scooter side of the story of him buying her catalog of music. Really buying the studio that owned her catalog of music. Her, what they call tapes. Right. Their masters, the master tapes. Even though they're probably not tapes. The master.

[A]

Which is why she did the whole Taylor's version.

[B]

Taylor's version, right. Which got everybody excited and everybody on board and all of this. Now, I'm going to leave it up to your judgment, but I'm sharing this with you because I think it should be watched. It's a very. A very interesting tale.

[A]

You watched it?

[B]

I watched all of it.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I watched it in one night because as soon as I heard this other gentleman saying what he was saying about it, which I'm not going to go there. Right. But he was saying something about it, and it was very pointed. And I thought, wow, there's a doc out there about this. And so I watched it one night. It's two hours. You can watch it really quickly. But it is a fascinating look at perspective and press and PR and motivating a audience of people to do things and also how misunderstanding or misrepresentation of what might be going on may be more easy than we even think. I mean, we know this, we know that this information gets out there and it gets twisted and all kind of hackneyed and all this other stuff. And I'm not saying I agree with Scooter or Taylor. I don't know about their contract, I don't read it, I'm not a lawyer, I don't know what that is. But I think that Scooter had the right to buy that, that studio. I don't think anybody argued that.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And so, you know, maybe, maybe there's two sides to the story. There are two sides of the story.

[A]

That she wanted to have her masters and he said no. Was that it? That's kind of the nutshell.

[B]

It. The studio, Big Machine Records that she got her first contract with, it was like an eight album deal or something like that. It was an eight album deal. They gave her a big advance when she was like 15 years old. They give her a big advance to do, you know, these eight albums or whatever it was. And then she of course got paid on all the music that she made. She owns the publishing and she owns the copyrights. But the masters, the recorded version of the albums is owned by the studio. And that's a typical music deal is nothing out of turn by that. Right. As almost always, unless you're big and powerful enough to demand that you own your own masters or you pay the studio to own your own masters, the. The company usually owns them. That's how it goes. For God's sakes. Michael Jackson owned the Beatles masters for years until somehow Paul managed to wiggle them back or the Beatles, you know, whatever it is, the Beatles company. So I'm just saying like maybe you should take a, take a look and.

[A]

Oh, there's two sides to every.

[B]

Two sides, every story for sure. According to Taylor. They never gave me the opportunity to buy them. I found out about it when everybody else found out about it on the press. According to other sources, that is not true. Right. And according to some emails that were published, that's not true. So you know, and listen, that still doesn't mean that they were offering her some good deal. That still doesn't mean that they like called her six months in advance and tried to work it out with her in an amicable way. I don't know, I wasn't in the room, but I'm just sharing that I always was like, oh, good for Taylor. Go Taylor. Do this. Take control of your life. You know, get it. And I still say all of that that. But I'm just sharing that, you know, this sounds like it was a contractual dispute that got way out of hand. Like. Like the PR machine just went to work and got way out of hand. And I'll have to watch it. It's very interesting. And listen, Taylor's versions have been extraordinarily successful. I mean, I think she did what she wanted to do. And that is recreate, note by note, the exact albums that she had put out after this expiration date, like when she was legally allowed to go record them again. And she did it note for note. It's almost the same exact thing. It is really the same exact thing with a few extra added songs or whatever it is. And she sold more copies of Taylor's versions of those albums than she did of the original versions of those when they came. When they first came out. And apparently she's still got one or two albums left to do. What a huge undertaking and a huge. Like, I'm going to control my shit. I'm pulling it back. And she went on a PR campaign to tell everybody not to press play on that version, press play on Taylor's version. And they all did. And she made them feel that it was a bad thing to press play on the other version. And it was just an amazing move, like power move, like super ballsy power move by a super rock star, right? It's like a total rock star move. The kind of move we can't pull here at the commercial. If we ever. If we ever tried to roll over on somebody, we'd be. They'd be like, ah, it really, guys. It's like when Blue comes in here and jumps on my leg and I just push her down. That'd be me. That'd be the commercial break asking for anything. But I just have to share that. And here's why I wanted to share it. Not to make a point, not to give you my opinion, because it's not important. I just wanted to share that it's out there. And if you're interested in that kind of it, you should go watch it. Taylor versus Scooter. I'm gonna watch really interesting documentary. Two versions. The first is Taylor's, the second is Scooters. Neither of them talk in this directly. Like there's press, right? But neither of them say anything directly. But there's a lot of archival footage. They take you through some periods that they take you way back to the beginning. They show you how this all went down. And then they have high influence attorneys and entertainment lawyers who will share their Opinions on exactly what was going on. And I guarantee you it's two hours that will go quick and you will find very fascinating.

[A]

All right.

[B]

Thank you. I just wanted to share that.

[A]

Well, apparently, you know, and I don't.

[B]

Know if you know, you know, documentary.

[A]

I need to watch it and get.

[B]

In the know, take a picture of your foot and send it to me. You know, one time they like took a picture of them at a, like a creek or something, you know, with like rocks and water, flowing water and their two feet were just like hanging out and they were taking the picture of their foot and it was like, of all the creeks in the world. I know that one.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean, come on.

[A]

No, that's ridiculous.

[B]

Oh my gosh. Please stop saying if you know, you know, start here on the commercial break. Let them know that you don't know and that you don't care if they know. Just let them know that. Let them know you don't know and you don't care if you know.

[A]

Start that acronym.

[B]

That's right. All right, well, listen, we're gonna get our together and we'll give you the dates on the, on the tour very shortly here. Just bear with us. We're the commercial break. Just know that everything is going to have some kind of wrench. Yes, it's always fluid truth. Yeah, it's probably gonna be fluid right up until the minute we show up on stage, honestly. All right, do us a favor. Go to tcbpodcast.com we want to give you a free sticker. And all you got to do is go to the website, hit the contact us button, use that drop down menu to drop that down, and then it says I want my free sticker. And then you'll give us your address and we'll send off off that sticker. You can also watch the audio and the video. You can watch the video, listen to the audio there, find out more about Chrissy. And I will announce when our tour, when our shows are going to be, and how you can get tickets on our socials. So please go follow us at the commercial break on Instagram. We would really appreciate it. We'd just be in love with you if you would. And you can communicate with us through there too. Also, Astrid reminded me there is a DM function. Go ahead and DM us.

[C]

Nice.

[B]

And someone here will respond. 212-4333-TCB that's 212-433-3822. Questions, comments, concerns, content, ideas. If you want to go to one of the shows, if you will go to one of the shows. Let us know. We would love to see you. So let us know if you're gonna be there. And YouTube.com the Commercial Week, first elected clip and all of our. It never does. All right, Chrissy. Definitely all I can do for today.

[A]

I think so.

[B]

But man, do I love you.

[A]

I love you.

[B]

And best to you.

[A]

Best to you.

[B]

Best to you out there in the podcast universe. Until next time. Chrissy and I always say, we do say and we must say goodbye. Sacking and keep on licking.